Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt kicking off our number two
Speaker 2: here on Wednesday, it is time for a little mock
Speaker 2: draft it up. Let's mock it up here. We're gonna
Speaker 2: use the Pro Footballnetwork dot Com simulator today and uh,
Speaker 2: the first twenty picks are in. We are up at
Speaker 2: twenty one. We have three trade offers. The Rams are
Speaker 2: offering pick twenty six in next year's two to come
Speaker 2: up to twenty one. They're also they also want pick
Speaker 2: two twenty nine. Okay, because they don't have a second,
Speaker 2: and I'm not having a second makes it tough. But
Speaker 2: the Jets are offering forty two, seventy three, one ten
Speaker 2: and next year second for twenty one and one fifty six.
Speaker 3: Forty two is the first one though. Huh yeah, that's
Speaker 3: their second run. Okay, next year's two could be yeah,
Speaker 3: that could be very very valuable.
Speaker 2: And well, the Chargers are offering twenty two and eighty
Speaker 2: six to come up one spot.
Speaker 3: I always think that's like stealing.
Speaker 2: It is kind of stealing and right, but they offered it.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, obviously there's somebody there that they want
Speaker 2: to take that they think we might take.
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that, but I'm not cool with then
Speaker 3: trade down again. Yeah, you know, like I could see
Speaker 3: that deal if there's somebody that they absolutely don't want
Speaker 3: to get jumped because they love them. It's our third
Speaker 3: round pick to him. But I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and look and see who they might
Speaker 2: want to come up and gets Loveland there, or Derek Harmon,
Speaker 2: John A. Barron, the cornerback out of Texas, Tyler Booker,
Speaker 2: g Hud Campbell, Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from Ohio State,
Speaker 2: Walter Nolan, Nick Scurton, Gray's Abel Kenneth Grant is all
Speaker 2: is also there.
Speaker 3: They may think.
Speaker 2: Maybe they think we're gonna take Grant and they want Grant,
Speaker 2: or they.
Speaker 3: Would rather talk. I mean, I'm cool taking that Chargers
Speaker 3: deal because any of those three are fine. I would
Speaker 3: rather talk to the Rams, I think at twenty six, okay,
Speaker 3: I know they don't have a two we able to
Speaker 3: counter on this count. Yeah, Okay, their next pick is
Speaker 3: at ninety. Can we get so you would rather twenty
Speaker 3: six ninety and next year's third not next year second?
Speaker 2: We can try.
Speaker 3: I would prefer to do that. One of those D
Speaker 3: tackles will be there in five picks. They accepted it, Okay,
Speaker 3: there you go, Yeah that makes sense. Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 3: just reject. I'd be shocked if they're trading up for
Speaker 3: a D tackle.
Speaker 2: So the Chargers wanted the They wanted joh A Barron, which, okay,
Speaker 2: I could say they might think we would take him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I could see the Rams want did they
Speaker 3: take They came up to get g Hot Campbell? Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: which that would make it gotcha? Uh?
Speaker 2: Then James Pierce went, Walter Nolan went, Derek Harmon went.
Speaker 3: Okay, doesn't love that. That's almost worst case scenario. But
Speaker 3: I still think Grant is fine.
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant, Omario and Hampton also there. Okay, so you
Speaker 2: get you get your pick of Amari and Hampton or
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean you knew that it was trading down.
Speaker 3: Wasn't gonna hurt you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all three of those guys were there.
Speaker 3: So we're we're pretty comfortable, right right, and Hampton, so
Speaker 3: we're taking Grant agreed, Okay, Kenneth Grant is the pick.
Speaker 3: Got a little future pick there involved to.
Speaker 2: A future pick.
Speaker 3: We got an extra pick in this draft, but now
Speaker 3: we gotta wait a bit. Yeah, well, we didn't get
Speaker 3: an extra pick in this draft. We moved but big time,
Speaker 3: but we got extra We got a third. We gave
Speaker 3: up to twenty nine though. Oh okay, okay, we just
Speaker 3: moved up. Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Okay. We are now up at pick eighty three and
Speaker 2: the top players available Alfred Collins.
Speaker 3: It's a tough one with Grant. That have been easier
Speaker 3: with Nolan or Harmon. But yeah, boy, that's some beef
Speaker 3: to put in that room. Jack becch Okay.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver from TCU, Ozzie Tripio offensive tackle from Boston College,
Speaker 2: Denzel Burke the cornerback from Ohio State, Brett Carter, linebacker
Speaker 2: from Clemson. Chris Paul, is there a position you want
Speaker 2: to hit here? Rather than just reading off names?
Speaker 3: Quarterback?
Speaker 2: The quarterbacks available Tyler Shuck, Will Howard, Quinn, Yours, Dylan Gabriel, Riley,
Speaker 2: Leonard cal McCord.
Speaker 3: I was hoping for Milroe but I would consider shock
Speaker 3: running back. You're looking at Scatabo. Yeah, Damian Martinez, Olie Gordon,
Speaker 3: Dylan Samson, R. J. Harvey, Devin Neil. I don't really
Speaker 3: like what's there overall.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver you're looking at Bett Tez Johnson, Tory Horton
Speaker 2: from Colorado State, Xavier Estrepo, Savion Williams, ty Felton, Donte Thornton.
Speaker 3: I don't love it. I don't like. I mean, a
Speaker 3: lot of our favorite players must have gone off the board.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the defensive lineman.
Speaker 3: How about other defensive tackles other than Collin.
Speaker 2: Alfred Collins there, Yeah, Omar Norman Lott from Tennessee, Shamar
Speaker 2: Turner from Texas A and m diom Walker from Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Josh Farmer from Florida State.
Speaker 3: I think I'd go Collins. It's very redundant, but they're big, massive,
Speaker 3: tone setter, talented dudes. It's not our usual build, to
Speaker 3: say the least. Don't we have another pic here? Real soon?
Speaker 2: We do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if there's somebody like it, certainly I could be
Speaker 3: convinced because I could also take Farmer cornerback.
Speaker 2: The cornerbacks you're looking at Burke Dorian Strong from Virginia
Speaker 2: tech Zia, Alexander Kobe Bryant from Kansas, Jordan Hancock from
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Quincy Rally from Louisville.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm not I don't have third round on any
Speaker 3: of these guys.
Speaker 2: I think maybe just take shock.
Speaker 3: I'd be fine with that too, because I think you'll
Speaker 3: get Farmer or Collins in a couple of picks here,
Speaker 3: good chance. Yeah right, we may not get shocked, though,
Speaker 3: I would be shocked. Yeah. I mean even if he's
Speaker 3: a long term too, it's worth it. It might be intriguing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I like it all right, Tyler Shucke, it is okay.
Speaker 2: Now we're up again at ninety and looking at those
Speaker 2: defensive tackles. Now, well, Schamar Turner is now the top
Speaker 2: guy because Collins went. Collins went to the Raiders. Farmers
Speaker 2: still there.
Speaker 3: Farmer is still there though, CJ. West is there is
Speaker 3: there an offensive.
Speaker 2: Johnny Cornelius from Oregon, Anthony Belton from NC State, Holland
Speaker 2: Pierce from Rutgers, Logan Brown from Kansas, Chase Lunt from Yukon,
Speaker 2: Charles Grant from William and.
Speaker 3: Mary Grant's my favorite. But I think i'd go Farmer
Speaker 3: running back.
Speaker 2: You're looking at Bay Sheell, Tuton, Damian Martinez, Olie Gordon,
Speaker 2: Dillon Samson, RJ. Harvey.
Speaker 3: That might be next round. Okay, we don't pick again
Speaker 3: into one twenty three, so mm I think that's early
Speaker 3: for those backs not loving the build so far. No, well,
Speaker 3: I get it, and sometimes it goes that way.
Speaker 2: Cure Guards, Dylan Fairchild from Georgia, Jackson Slater from sack State,
Speaker 2: Garrett Dellinger from LSU, Luke Candra from Cincinnati, Miles Frasier
Speaker 2: from LSU.
Speaker 3: I think they're more middle later guys too. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think Farmers the best player out there. I didn't love
Speaker 3: the receivers, didn't love the corners.
Speaker 2: Let me look at the edge guys, because some of
Speaker 2: these edges.
Speaker 3: Are also sometimes they overlap.
Speaker 2: We've got Grant Jordan Birch from Morgan. He's big enough
Speaker 2: to ride around.
Speaker 3: He's big. Yeah, don't feel real comfortable bumping man.
Speaker 2: Tyler barn from Miami. You know.
Speaker 3: David Walker from Central Arkansas, Antoine Powell Ryland from Virginia Tech. No,
Speaker 3: Fidel Digs from Syracuse. That's a no.
Speaker 2: Savion Jones.
Speaker 3: Jones is the other one. That's like Birch size. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a projection, but there is talent there. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean he's got the length. I mean, I can't imagine
Speaker 3: taking him over Farmer though I know they're real difference.
Speaker 3: But one guy I know what he is. The other
Speaker 3: one I got to project. Okay, I don't want a
Speaker 3: problem with that. Yeah, Farmers, I don't like what. I mean.
Speaker 3: What came off the board was a lot of our
Speaker 3: favorite dudes.
Speaker 2: Way different rankings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, on different rankings. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're up at one twenty three and top players available
Speaker 2: Dean Walker. I'm not sure that save on Williams.
Speaker 3: That's not bad.
Speaker 2: Samel Mondon junior from the linebacker from Georgia, ty Felton,
Speaker 2: the wide receiver from Maryland. Ronde Gadson tight end from Syracuse.
Speaker 2: Damian Martinez is back now available.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have a trigger here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Damian Martinez.
Speaker 3: It is okay. He may have been my favorite one
Speaker 3: that you listed last time.
Speaker 2: All right, we're up at one fifty six. You know,
Speaker 2: the best player available is R. J. Harvey from UCF.
Speaker 3: I like Harvey a lot too. Yeah, Harvey and Martinez
Speaker 3: would be really close to my rankings.
Speaker 2: Then it's J. J. Pageese, the defensive tackle from Ole
Speaker 2: Miss good to fill there, Devin Neil Riley, Leonard Luke Candra,
Speaker 2: the guard from Cincinnati, uh Seth McLaughlin. Elijah Roberts there
Speaker 2: he was just in fact yesterday, the defensive tackle from SMU,
Speaker 2: Jalen Rivers, the offensive tackle from Miami, Sebastian Castro the
Speaker 2: safety from Iowa.
Speaker 3: Rivers might be your starting guard next year. It could be,
Speaker 3: you know, with some tackle capabilities. I wouldn't hate that.
Speaker 3: He reminds me a lot of Jones from LSU or tackle,
Speaker 3: but probably guard, but not one only guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Zoff Frasier still there, and Utsa Cam
Speaker 2: Jackson was still there. So, I mean, there are so many,
Speaker 2: there's so many nose tackles in this draft. It's just crazy.
Speaker 2: Tim Smith's still there, Jordan James was still there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, running back.
Speaker 2: What are you feeling here?
Speaker 3: Probably Rivers? I think you said Williams a receiver still there?
Speaker 3: I did round ago that was around that. I don't
Speaker 3: think we even got that. Yeah, he's gone, he's long gone.
Speaker 3: He's risen up some of these boards. People finally caught
Speaker 3: on that he's actually good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, unless there
Speaker 3: was a receiver or corner that just blew your doors off.
Speaker 2: The river stands out and the offensive lineman still available. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're right, he might be a guard next year.
Speaker 2: But that's fine, that's kind of fine. That's exactly what
Speaker 2: you'll go for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Jalen Rivers, offensive lineman from Miami.
Speaker 3: Is to pick.
Speaker 2: We got one left here. This is one eighty five.
Speaker 2: Our final pick. Cal McCord still there and we took
Speaker 2: shut Simmy and Borrow defensive tackle from Miami. Jake Majors
Speaker 2: the center from Texas. Nick Nash wide receiver San Jose
Speaker 2: State on the s Peebles, undersized defensive tackle at Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: Katon Crawford, safety had in Nevada. Mitchell Evans, a tight
Speaker 2: end from Notre Dame. Jay Higgins linebacker from Iowa, Cam Jackson.
Speaker 3: If you don't need him, but Crawford's a heck of
Speaker 3: a tester, athlete and project.
Speaker 2: Jabar Mohammad is there, the cornerback out of Oregon could
Speaker 2: use a corner. He'd be a slot.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's not all bad.
Speaker 2: Little slot man. Jalen Smith, the cornerback out of the
Speaker 2: USC is there.
Speaker 3: I like him, Yeah, I'd say that might be my
Speaker 3: favorite corner You mentioned d back, you mentioned do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jaylen Smith it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one more in the equation would make sense. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And he could play inside, he could play outside, he
Speaker 2: can do both. Right, Yeah, so okay, some versatility. Let's
Speaker 2: see how we came out of here. All right, So
Speaker 2: we traded back to twenty six. We get the Rams
Speaker 2: third round draft pick next year.
Speaker 3: Don't forget that, right.
Speaker 2: We got Kenneth Grant at twenty six. We took Tyler
Speaker 2: Shuck at eighty three. You're not saying that's cheating anymore.
Speaker 3: I still think it is. I don't think there's any
Speaker 3: chance he gets in the eighties. I think he's a
Speaker 3: going round two.
Speaker 2: We took Josh Farmer at ninety. That was one of
Speaker 2: the extra picks that we picked up. Damian Martinez at
Speaker 2: won twenty three, Jalen Rivers, the offensive tackle out of
Speaker 2: Miami at one fifty six. There you go, there you go,
Speaker 2: and Jalen Smith, the cornerback at a USC at one
Speaker 2: eighty five.
Speaker 3: I don't mind the hall we ended up with, but
Speaker 3: I hated our options every time we were up just
Speaker 3: the best stuff. Yeah, I mean even the first round pick.
Speaker 3: It's like Nolan and Harmon went.
Speaker 2: It kind of narrowed our Yeah, our road got narrowed
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 3: Real quick. I mean again, I don't have many options. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we didn't have many options at all. It's all of
Speaker 3: a sudden it was like, well I better take them,
Speaker 3: you know, we get a lot of value or you know, boy,
Speaker 3: there's ten guys to pick from here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we came out of this with six picks. We
Speaker 2: started with six picks. We came out of it with
Speaker 2: six picks. But we picked up that third round pick.
Speaker 3: Next Let's not forget that. If we had three third
Speaker 3: round picks next year, right, or even four possibility if
Speaker 3: Fields places his way into a into a third round
Speaker 3: competitory pick, wow, first, a second, and multiple multiple thirds.
Speaker 2: Now I would like if I had to trade my
Speaker 2: first and second this year or next what I'm saying
Speaker 2: next year, if I trade my one and two and
Speaker 2: even two of those threes to go get a quarterback.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you have to touch next
Speaker 2: year's one, necessarily.
Speaker 3: Might not because you've so much firepower, right, Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I don't know what the case will be, but you
Speaker 3: might trade one of those thirds between now and the
Speaker 3: opening day. I mean someone's out.
Speaker 2: I mean it probably not, probably not. That woulduld have
Speaker 2: to be somebody who's really young on it.
Speaker 3: It would have to be like you get the first
Speaker 3: contractors and you go get car or something like that.
Speaker 3: Or I don't even think he'd cost you. That would
Speaker 3: brush you that, No, I mean, but you at least
Speaker 3: have that option. If there's someone that's unhappy, that's expensive,
Speaker 3: you could be one of the teams in it.
Speaker 2: More stuff, more stuff, more stuff, more.
Speaker 3: Stuff, right, Yeah? How much fun would be to a
Speaker 3: mock with four thirds?
Speaker 2: And it's obvious that's the plan for the Steelers.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: People saying that they don't have a plan, I'm going
Speaker 2: to say this again, the people saying the Steelers don't
Speaker 2: have a plan haven't been paying attention to what they've
Speaker 2: done with next year's draft. I know they're not doing
Speaker 2: that simply because the draft is in Pittsburgh. They're doing
Speaker 2: that because the plan is to have all these picks
Speaker 2: available next year to go get your guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean it adds up much better,
Speaker 3: and there's so much cap space that they could fill
Speaker 3: other deeds before the draft next year. No, I think
Speaker 3: that the perception of the team and their buying power
Speaker 3: a year from now will be a lot more clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know so, well that was our latest mock draft.
Speaker 2: Like that one is much like last Fridays.
Speaker 3: I remember that that one going whoa, that just fell
Speaker 3: right into place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why it goes sometimes. But that's why
Speaker 2: you do these things to see. Oh yeah, what happens
Speaker 2: when you do it this way.
Speaker 3: I mean I would still make the trade with the
Speaker 3: Rams knowing these are the players on the board, this
Speaker 3: is the deal in place. Maybe Nolan gets there half
Speaker 3: the time, or Harmon or whatever. You know. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't mind taking Grand No, not at all, right, right,
Speaker 3: not at all.
Speaker 2: That's why you build that twenty one. He was on
Speaker 2: our twenty one pretty high. Yeah really, anyways, let's get
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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale, Lolli. He is
Speaker 2: the Williamson and Matt You're part of the draft digest
Speaker 2: through that puts that publication ten years out something like that,
Speaker 2: and that just came out this week.
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes. You won't find my name in there anywhere.
Speaker 3: The only name I see in there is Ross Tucker's
Speaker 3: the only one who gets any kind of credit. He's
Speaker 3: the one to set us up with the gigway back when.
Speaker 3: And hey, you interested doing the shore and he writes,
Speaker 3: you'll get no credit. As you get you'll get a paycheck.
Speaker 3: Better paycheck showed up and several copies of the publication
Speaker 3: showed up the other day.
Speaker 2: So I was paging through it today as we're waiting
Speaker 2: to do the show, and they have some lists here.
Speaker 2: People love lists, but these ones are kind of germane
Speaker 2: to the conversation as we get closer to the draft.
Speaker 3: I didn't write any lists, so these aren't me.
Speaker 2: They haven't broken down. And here we'll do the first one. Here,
Speaker 2: ten prospects who are underrated by the media. Okay, now
Speaker 2: that's the here's the That's the thing when you when
Speaker 2: you start looking at.
Speaker 3: Now we'll pull back the curtain. I assume whoever did
Speaker 3: these lists turn these in whenever I turned my team
Speaker 3: needs into and that was several weeks ago. The world's changing.
Speaker 2: The world has changed, but not to the degree with
Speaker 2: that some of these guys aren't still underrated by the
Speaker 2: draft prognosticators, the mel Kiper's and you know we do
Speaker 2: all the mock stuff and we talk about players we
Speaker 2: feel are underrated.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never one has their list right, happens all the time.
Speaker 2: So here's their list. Andrew mccooba, the safety out of Clemson.
Speaker 3: I can see that does a lot and just.
Speaker 2: Not real big, but he's I mean he's rated down
Speaker 2: around the hundreds somewhere in that rage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he will played a game that should stick
Speaker 3: in the league. I mean, I don't think these people
Speaker 3: are saying is Troy Paul maler No.
Speaker 2: Benjamin Morrison, the cornerback at a Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: I Underson agree. I think he's would be absolutely firmly
Speaker 3: in my top five if it's not for the hip.
Speaker 3: He just hadn't done anything and he's got the hit
Speaker 3: the right I mean, the medicals are going to be
Speaker 3: huge for him from two years ago was quite good.
Speaker 2: I can remember watching Notre Dame two years ago and
Speaker 2: I was looking at their one cornerback because he was
Speaker 2: draft eligible. And I'm watching him.
Speaker 3: And yeah, he was another tall, long dude. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Michael Birch, who's the Steelers assistant PR director, used to
Speaker 2: be the PR working prt Notre Dame. Oh okay, And
Speaker 2: I'm watching this and I'm going, who's that dude?
Speaker 3: Who's the other guy? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I asked Michael, but oh, he's He's like he'll
Speaker 2: be eligible next year.
Speaker 3: I'm like, guy, he did a number on Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I do think he's underrated. I don't
Speaker 3: know anything about medicine, but I guess hips aren't as
Speaker 3: bad as they used to be. But this is his
Speaker 3: second one, the other side one of them. It's a
Speaker 3: laborhm tear in the hip, which I don't know what
Speaker 3: that means. I know its a laborm tear in the shoulder.
Speaker 3: Feels like I have one. I had surgery on it
Speaker 3: that was not fun. I mean, laborams are in the body.
Speaker 3: I think there's the one that need it wasn't Yeah, joints,
Speaker 3: it's a joint thing. Okay, I would immediately thought, though
Speaker 3: all the hip turn the corners do that. That's a
Speaker 3: terrible injury. And if he had one before, is this
Speaker 3: a recurring thing or But I don't. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: don't take my word of it.
Speaker 2: That's what caused Tony Boselli to retire. He had a
Speaker 2: labor surgery that they did they screwed up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he didn't have the extension on his arm that
Speaker 2: he used to and he couldn't play anything.
Speaker 3: That was the end of it. No, but I agree
Speaker 3: with Morrison being underrated. If he's clean, he's number one corner.
Speaker 2: H Kyle Williams, a wide receiver out of Washington State.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's been painfully pay rated the entire process.
Speaker 3: Some people seem to realize that he's probably going to
Speaker 3: catch a Day two, and I think he will.
Speaker 2: He's got size, he's got speed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good route runner. He's a good player.
Speaker 2: Quarterback Max Brosmer from Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that. I mean everyone just kind
Speaker 3: of throws him in as a maybe draft of the
Speaker 3: seven round pick. I think he has a game that
Speaker 3: could stick in the league.
Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Tate Ratledge from Georgia. I don't have him underrated.
Speaker 2: I don't know my top five is a guard.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's a really good player.
Speaker 3: I think he was number five for me too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like both of the Georgia gardens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good players, and I get it there. Maybe
Speaker 2: they're being maybe they're being looked at his fourth late third,
Speaker 2: fourth round guys, and maybe they're gonna be third round guys,
Speaker 2: you know, in at the end of the second round,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be starting guards in the league.
Speaker 3: This happens at Bama, this happens at Georgia, Like George
Speaker 3: is gonna have four offensive linemen drafted. Just none of
Speaker 3: them are easy slam dunk for a round picks, you know, like,
Speaker 3: you know, they all can play. They all can play.
Speaker 3: The level competition is strong. You know, they're all athletes,
Speaker 3: they're all specimens, they're all you know, they're not hyped
Speaker 3: up like Broderick Jones or Mims. You know, they don't
Speaker 3: look like freaks of nature. But they're good, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Kyle mcgonagh, guy, No, we brought him up in a
Speaker 3: similar manner. Again. Could he have a Pacheco like career? Sure? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he could be a low end one and
Speaker 3: if he gets the opportunity or somebody.
Speaker 2: Gets hurt going.
Speaker 3: Starter and gets a bunch of yards, like right right,
Speaker 3: he runs hard. Uh.
Speaker 2: Defensive Backtorian Strong from Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: I agree, he's got a weight speed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great guy. Charles Grant from William and Mary,
Speaker 2: the offensive lineman, talked about him a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people have said, like, Matt, you
Speaker 3: go quick drafting this guy. I mean, I'm like, he's.
Speaker 2: Always available, like the same thing with like Ty Robinson,
Speaker 2: every like we get to these late rounds, like was
Speaker 2: available again in the late rounds. Yeah, yeah, when we
Speaker 2: met it, but we'd already taken to two defensive linemen.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not taking I'm not even gonna mention
Speaker 2: him here.
Speaker 3: I mean, Grant such a good athlete. You think they'll
Speaker 3: know some some things about William and Mary, I mean
Speaker 3: in general, and I put some credence in this, but uh,
Speaker 3: just yesterday Pro Football Focus put their O line superlatives,
Speaker 3: you know, and they listed these are the best protectors,
Speaker 3: these are the best inside zone blockers, best outside zone blockers.
Speaker 3: He was number one on outside zone. Now have a
Speaker 3: big deal he's blocking William and Mary opponents, and I
Speaker 3: would love to see him as Stenier Bowl. But that's
Speaker 3: why he's not going around one or two, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's why it's even in the conversation.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Kannada Mumfield from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think I know more about him being
Speaker 3: a pit guy, but I've heard that name more and
Speaker 3: more of the last month. That good in space, good chance,
Speaker 3: you know, change direction. He must have done well with
Speaker 3: Their pro was really good. Okay, I didn't see the numbers,
Speaker 3: but just because all of a sudden, his name keeps
Speaker 3: popping up and I know the prote has happened.
Speaker 2: And then linebacker Kobe King from Penn.
Speaker 3: State, another guy I don't know enough about. Penn State's
Speaker 3: got some interesting dudes, though, I like both their safeties.
Speaker 3: You know, King's a name that's going to get drafted
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 2: You know ten prospects who are overrated by the media.
Speaker 2: Walter Nolan from Ole Miss I don't agree. I don't
Speaker 2: agree with that either, No, Prince you from ole.
Speaker 3: Miss I can see that he's kind of a higher
Speaker 3: mercenary pass rush own league guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jackson Dart from.
Speaker 3: Ole messsif I'm seeing a trend here. Yeah, Pegee Ole,
Speaker 3: miss but the coroner amos and the wide receiver.
Speaker 2: And right, I do think Jackson Dart is being overrated.
Speaker 3: The Mississippi State guy write this or something. Maybe somebody
Speaker 3: hates Lane Kiffin on it. Right, No, I'm not big
Speaker 3: on Dart either. He would probably be on my left.
Speaker 2: I mean I think he's he's his second round talent
Speaker 2: that's being talked about as a first round pick.
Speaker 3: And right, I don't see special traits either.
Speaker 2: Tight End Harold Fannin from Bowling Green.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more on that. Yeah, he's a lot
Speaker 3: of manufacturer like Yeah, a lot of manufacturer touches, very
Speaker 3: straight line ish. He doesn't like come out of his
Speaker 3: brakes real well.
Speaker 2: Defensive lineman Kenneth Grant from Michigan.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I had to make that argument, it
Speaker 3: would be his buddy got most of the double teams
Speaker 3: and he benefited from a situation. But I think the
Speaker 3: tools are crazy. Linebacker Danny Stutsman from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Made a lot of plays.
Speaker 3: He made a lot of plays. I mean in my
Speaker 3: initial linebacker ranks, I think he was number five. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I could be convinced he's eight. I mean I don't
Speaker 3: feel strong about him. Right.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Matthew Golden from Texas.
Speaker 3: Maybe if we're just talking about like, boy, he's clearly
Speaker 3: the best receiver in the draft, and he's awesome, he
Speaker 3: wouldn't be the best river most drafts, right, I mean
Speaker 3: I like him a lot, but he's not Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not neighbors, you know. I mean, so
Speaker 3: that way, maybe he's overrated for wide receiver ones.
Speaker 2: Running back Quinn Shawn Judkins from Ohio State who used
Speaker 2: to be at Ole Miss a good point.
Speaker 3: There might be something going on here. Yeah. I did
Speaker 3: not write this list, nor do I have a bias
Speaker 3: against old Miss. I mean, Judkins is fine. I don't
Speaker 3: think he plays quite as fast as he tied. I
Speaker 3: don't think so either. Yeah, the time, the time that
Speaker 3: he ran was kind of surprising. Shocked me. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: saw him get caught a few times. It was late
Speaker 3: in the year and they were played one hundred games.
Speaker 3: He was a little worn down.
Speaker 2: But quarterback Tyler Shuck from Louisville.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna agree with in that one.
Speaker 2: And edge rusher Jack Sawyer from Ohio State.
Speaker 3: I think that's the best one ever. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: he is massively overrated. I can't imagine team using this.
Speaker 3: I can run pick off the ten combine workout Warriors.
Speaker 3: Nick Emuari safety from South Carolina. Offensive tackle arm On
Speaker 3: Membo from Missouri. I say Membo would be the old
Speaker 3: lineman that stood out the most.
Speaker 2: Edge rusher Shamar Stewart from Texas, A and M these.
Speaker 3: Are no brainers, yeah, but need to be repeated.
Speaker 2: Defensive lineman Ty Robinson from Nebraska.
Speaker 3: That one was the most surprising of the group.
Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, I was surprised that he ran and
Speaker 2: did everything as well as he did really well, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he was productive too. Defensive back Darian Porter from
Speaker 2: Iowa State.
Speaker 3: He's almost like AI in terms of rare stuff.
Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Jared Wilson from Georgia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of showed up. We mentioned this Georgia
Speaker 3: O linman.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Matthew Golden from Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't play like a four two flying right,
Speaker 3: that's Tyreek stuff, you know.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Jalen Noel from Iowa. It's a really good showing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and all you know, change right everything. Baseielle Tooting the
Speaker 2: running back from Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: It wasn't surprising, but it was a great showing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then, uh, tight end Thomas Fedon from Nebraska.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, he had a good showing too, mid round guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The ten safest players outside of Round one, Okay. Wide
Speaker 2: receiver Jaden Higgins from Iowa State. Okay, I mean he's
Speaker 2: a pretty safe prospect. Yeah, he does a lot of
Speaker 2: good stuff.
Speaker 3: I heard something just recently that he had an unbelievable
Speaker 3: announce amount of defensive pass interference calls against him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, yet I can see it right right. Safety
Speaker 2: Andrew mccoobaugh from Clemson.
Speaker 3: I could see that too. We brought him up just recently.
Speaker 2: Tight End Mason Taylor from l s U.
Speaker 3: I think that's some of these. You know, Dad was
Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer and better on the game.
Speaker 2: Uncle's a Hall of Fame, right right, right, I mean.
Speaker 3: That's you're not gonna be overwhelmed by the league.
Speaker 2: Cornerback Quincy Riley from Louisville, Okay, I think he's gonna.
Speaker 3: Follow him in that lot, but I'd gladly take him
Speaker 3: in fourth, So I think that's when i'd start considering.
Speaker 3: I'm very happy in the fifth. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Quarterback col McCord from Syracuse.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. He might throw a million
Speaker 3: picks and I don't know if he's safe. Safe, but
Speaker 3: it's not the word I would use.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Jack Beck from TCU.
Speaker 3: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: He's gonna make plays. He might never be a star,
Speaker 2: but he's gonna make plays.
Speaker 3: I mean, like in a perfect NFL system, he's your
Speaker 3: third best pass catcher. Yeah, and that's great. That's great.
Speaker 2: Safety Rayon Lane from Navy. He's a really good I
Speaker 2: mean he's a good athlete.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mcgonaugh guy okay from Rutgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean really plays hard.
Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Jalen Rivers from Miami snagged him.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe that's a wealth. He's not a tackle, he's guard.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be some being useful for you somewhere.
Speaker 2: Linebacker Jay Higgins from Iowa, Okay. Solid ten riskiest players
Speaker 2: in the top fifty. Quarterback Jaylen Milroe Alabama, sure.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Defensive lineman Walter Nolan from Ole, Miss Okay. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're worried about off the fielder character or whatever.
Speaker 2: Edge rusher James Pierce from Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I agree with that. Yeah, he doesn't really play the
Speaker 3: run and he's quite thin.
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Saveon Williams from TCU. I haven't seen anybody
Speaker 2: that has him in the top fifty.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I say something. I'm not sure Millroe goes
Speaker 3: in the top fifty. I'm not sure Williams goes in
Speaker 3: the top fifty. Williams doesn't really have a home.
Speaker 2: Linebacker Carson sweahing Hear from UCLA.
Speaker 3: I don't think that one's risky really one year production,
Speaker 3: there's only one year that's one hundred per century.
Speaker 2: Edge rusher Shamar Stewart from Texas A.
Speaker 3: And M no doubt, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive back Chavon Ravel from East Carolina.
Speaker 3: Just don't know enough. Yeah, and makes them risky for.
Speaker 2: An A c L. You don't know what he's right.
Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant and his games are against really bad teams.
Speaker 3: When there's a Kenneth Granted defensive lineman from Michigan, I
Speaker 3: guess I don't know how he could really bust out though,
Speaker 3: I mean it's not like his efforts bad or you know,
Speaker 3: going to eat himself out of league.
Speaker 2: Safety Nick m Uary from South Carolina for where.
Speaker 3: You pick him. I get it. I get that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame based on the
Speaker 2: injury stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Finally, the ten most versatile players, Okay, Jalen Walker from Georgia,
Speaker 2: the linebacker, Saveon Williams, wide receiver from TCUA.
Speaker 3: Do a lot of different stuff with Yeah. Malachi Starks,
Speaker 3: the safety out of Georgia. Not just a free or anything, right,
Speaker 3: Jalen River, Okay.
Speaker 2: Offensive lineman from Miami.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he might be a tackle.
Speaker 2: Nick Amuari from South Carolina.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does linebacker stuff and all that.
Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Donovan Jackson from Ohio State.
Speaker 3: They showed you could play left tackle for the Buckeyes
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: Lequin Allen he running back out of Syracuse.
Speaker 3: Phenomenal receiver.
Speaker 2: He might be a slot.
Speaker 3: He might be a slot to say, a returner.
Speaker 2: Tight end Tyler Warren Penn State.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he throws passes that using line them up all
Speaker 3: over line of scrimmage. I mean he's he's definitely versatile. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Defensive back Jacob Parrish from k State not just a slot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he can play outside. He's tiny, he's.
Speaker 3: Small, but he's fighty and does it pretty well. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to do it every snap.
Speaker 2: Santas Drill showed last year that you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can get away with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And edge rusher Olami Oladish old Dejo, I should say
Speaker 3: from UCLA. Some of these linebacker turned edges are on
Speaker 3: that list. I mean Walker. Yeah, it doesn't mean I
Speaker 3: wanted to play a linebacker in the league though, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I hear you. I definitely have a Baron on that list too, right.
Speaker 2: Anyways, that's the list there from some of the lists
Speaker 2: from the Draft Digest. You can check that out. Matt,
Speaker 2: that participated in that, even though my favorite part.
Speaker 3: About it is the draft diddies on each team. But
Speaker 3: I just go to Draft history and I stare at
Speaker 3: them and I find trends. I come up with thirty two.
Speaker 3: They're fun.
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt ESPN's Ben Sollock has put together
Speaker 2: a thing here where twenty twenty five quarterback mock draft
Speaker 2: the team fits through seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I did scan this.
Speaker 2: I have not looked at it yet, but I am
Speaker 2: interested here.
Speaker 3: Obviously, he's just kind of putting landing spots in what
Speaker 3: round it would make sense and where they all end
Speaker 3: up when it's all said and done. He has cam
Speaker 3: Word at number one overall. I think that's slam done done.
Speaker 2: Pencil that in.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He has Shadre Sanders going third to the Giants.
Speaker 3: I would I would not consider it, but I would
Speaker 3: consider it more if I were them, if I only
Speaker 3: had Carter to pick from and not Hunter. But I
Speaker 3: still don't see it happening.
Speaker 2: I think I'm if Carter were clean right now, I'm
Speaker 2: taking Carter.
Speaker 3: Over Sanders you're talking about Yeah, me too, me too.
Speaker 2: But I could see where picking at three, they'd be like,
Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna take Sanders. Now we get an
Speaker 2: early second round pick. We'll get an edge press there.
Speaker 2: I don't think they need it. I don't even need it.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. It's like that's why I was saying,
Speaker 3: if it's.
Speaker 2: Hunter here, you just take Hunter, and.
Speaker 3: If he only plays one way for you, he helps somewhere, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know where.
Speaker 2: Because you're kind of a no man's land here like
Speaker 2: the other one.
Speaker 3: That trade Thibodeau. Not really, I just traded for Burns.
Speaker 2: I may take Mason Graham No, probably no, right, I.
Speaker 3: Mean their d tackles aren't bad either, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: if there was a there's Joe Alt sitting there, I'll
Speaker 3: take him. But quarterbacks of the need, yeah, don't. They
Speaker 3: don't need a left tackle, right, Yeah, I mean Membos
Speaker 3: probably won't be the pick.
Speaker 2: So in that situation, Sanders makes sense at three.
Speaker 3: As bad as they are, there are not a million
Speaker 3: holes on the team either. Yeah, I mean, they're just
Speaker 3: a bad quarterback.
Speaker 2: Play round two, picked number thirty three, Jackson dart to
Speaker 2: the Browns And.
Speaker 3: He's not like projecting trades or any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, He's just saying this is where they should go.
Speaker 3: Like I bet a Browns fans, which probably don't have
Speaker 3: a whole lot of them listening at the moment, would
Speaker 3: gladly say I'll trade my first two picks for Hunter
Speaker 3: and Dart. I'm not a Dart fan, but I could
Speaker 3: see where I bet the organization would do it. Right now,
Speaker 3: I think so, you know, yeah, I mean if you
Speaker 3: asked the GM, would you give me your first two
Speaker 3: picks for Darton Hunter? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, with no moving around, but no moving around, don't
Speaker 2: do a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Round two, pick fifty two, which used to be the
Speaker 2: Steelers pick Tyler Schuck from Louis Voge Seattle.
Speaker 3: Makes sense. I mean, his age sometimes makes me wonder
Speaker 3: what teams would it would matter in Seattle, wouldn't matter
Speaker 3: at all? Is he the same age as I'd say
Speaker 3: that probably about the same age, right right? He might
Speaker 3: be better in a year, who knows. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that's a great spot. Round three, pick eighty three, Steelers
Speaker 3: pick Jaln Milroe. I mean on that, I mean that
Speaker 3: he's perfectly happy taking him at eighty three, absolutely, I mean,
Speaker 3: deep down, I don't think he'll get there. We talked
Speaker 3: about him a ton yesterday and made some waves. Don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong, but the fact that he was invited
Speaker 3: to the draft. Willis and Corral were invited to the
Speaker 3: draft too, right, I mean, quarterbacks different are different, They're
Speaker 3: different it doesn't mean he's definitely going in the first round.
Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I said, like they put out their
Speaker 2: thirty invitations or however many they give out, and twelve
Speaker 2: guys said.
Speaker 3: Yes, right right, Well he's a big name, dude.
Speaker 2: They want people in that green room.
Speaker 3: They want Alabama's quarter and they want eyes.
Speaker 2: On the TV, and the quarterback to get the eyes,
Speaker 2: you invite the quarterbacks even if they're not first round
Speaker 2: guys might not even be a second round guy.
Speaker 3: Like we didn't think Willis would fall as far as
Speaker 3: he did right before the draft, but he was not
Speaker 3: guaranteed the first round pick either, let alone Corral.
Speaker 2: If the draft were to fall this way, if it
Speaker 2: were one three top picks, those four guys are off
Speaker 2: the board. We've now taken those four quarterback needy teams
Speaker 2: out of the equation. I could see Milroe sliding a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then who else is in? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who are the next?
Speaker 3: I mean, Browns and Giants are out of the mix.
Speaker 3: Tennessee's obviously out of the mix.
Speaker 2: Would New Orleans take one?
Speaker 3: Maybe? Well, Colen Moore came from the Eagles. He could
Speaker 3: definitely see some Jalen Hurts there, so maybe that would
Speaker 3: be one. I can't imagine McVeigh would want him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's what he wants. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean because he's a certain type. Yeah, so who would
Speaker 3: They don't have any between there. That's the thing too, right,
Speaker 3: they get their first round pick and then nothing until
Speaker 3: the night. I guess they wouldn't even have a show.
Speaker 2: They would have to trade up. Yeah, they don't have
Speaker 2: the picks to do that.
Speaker 3: I bet we come with a team more two.
Speaker 2: So if the draft were to fall this way, I
Speaker 2: could see that happen.
Speaker 3: If those four quarterback needy teams all that.
Speaker 2: One yeah, yeah, uh, then you're looking at round four,
Speaker 2: pick one, thirty one, the Saints taking Calum McCord.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they could kind of just look at
Speaker 3: it with Rattler and say, I hope on these two
Speaker 3: is and they still got a quarterback there. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: still got Car Car he could learn from. He's kind
Speaker 3: of like Car. He's more of a risk. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but that's fine value too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Round six, pick one eight seven, the Vikings take Will Howard.
Speaker 3: Hmm. I don't know if i'd want two puppies in
Speaker 3: the room together. I'd rather have a veteran better on
Speaker 3: the block backup. But yeah, if you look at him
Speaker 3: as a backup, I would have given him the Raiders
Speaker 3: with Chip Kelly.
Speaker 2: Round six, pick one, the Rams take Riley Leonard.
Speaker 3: I don't think he throws it as well as McVeigh once,
Speaker 3: but I think that's about the neighborhood Leonard goes and
Speaker 3: I think he's getting he's filling the ball better. Then
Speaker 3: people give him credit for that. He's okay.
Speaker 2: I thought he looked good at the combine throat.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Round six, picked two eleven, the Dallas Cowboys take Quin Yours.
Speaker 3: I wonder they wouldn't after trading for Milton now though
Speaker 3: probably not. I mean we're talking about six and seventh
Speaker 3: round pick.
Speaker 2: Seventh round pick, and you know, does Milton yeah, is
Speaker 2: he guaranteed?
Speaker 3: Not like they gave up the farm for Milton. Uh.
Speaker 2: Then you're looking at three intriguing undrafted free agent fits.
Speaker 2: He has Hunter Deckers from Iowa Western going to the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: I've heard the name, and I know nothing about the guy,
Speaker 3: but I've heard a couple of people, right, I've heard
Speaker 3: a couple people say this dude's okay. Where they have
Speaker 3: him go to the Dolphins. Okay, if he's that type.
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel who goes undrafted goes to the Commanders.
Speaker 3: Okay, he gets linked to the Dolphins a lot, just style.
Speaker 2: They're both lefties.
Speaker 3: Well they're both quick processors too, but they're also a
Speaker 3: little lefties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Detroit takes a chance on Curtis Rourke from Indiana. Right,
Speaker 2: they've already done that.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the hooker hooker, right, right, just send him,
Speaker 3: send him a year and see what happens. And Golf's
Speaker 3: not young, he's not. Yeah, they have a lot invested
Speaker 3: in them, but they're not looking. They're undrafted free agents.
Speaker 3: They don't think that's gonna take you the super not.
Speaker 2: Going to move the needle, all right, right, but interesting
Speaker 2: if if Rourke doesn't get drafted, Oh I'd be all
Speaker 2: over him.
Speaker 3: But he's not going to do anything for you. And
Speaker 3: I know, I know you're just going to eat him
Speaker 3: for a year, him for a year. You have to
Speaker 3: carry that carry.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's tough. Undrafted you don't necessarily have him for four
Speaker 3: years either, right, you know that's tough. It is tough.
Speaker 3: But I'd like to get my hands on him, but boy,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough to do anything with him for
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Milroe at eighty three is I'd be very
Speaker 2: intrigued with how you're talking. I'm not. And a lot
Speaker 2: of people were with me on the message board on this, Matt.
Speaker 2: They're not in on your trading up to get Milroe.
Speaker 3: I'm just crossing my mind, you know. I mean you
Speaker 3: think about yeah, yeah, yeah, you think about all kinds
Speaker 3: of stuff this time year.
Speaker 2: Try to run this this scenario through your head. The
Speaker 2: one thing we didn't do is I didn't sit here
Speaker 2: and say, oh, Match, you're an idiot.
Speaker 3: That's stupid. That makes no sense at all. Right, Like,
Speaker 3: if you think he could be the man, not just
Speaker 3: a guy, the man, we talk as possible because how
Speaker 3: can I make that happen.
Speaker 2: We're adults. Things we don't just immediately jump off the handles.
Speaker 2: Oh it's stupid.
Speaker 3: My my favorite one. Since I've been on this mill
Speaker 3: Road kick for the last three or four days. There's
Speaker 3: no way Tom and his staff could develop him. They
Speaker 3: can't develop quarterbacks based on what as to say, because
Speaker 3: Picket isn't the superstar. I mean, like, what are we
Speaker 3: going off of here? Yeah, I don't get it. I
Speaker 3: don't either, But you know that's a rap jack some.
Speaker 2: Of the narratives that get put out there. Steelers can't
Speaker 2: develop a quarterback. Mike Toom has never done it, Ben Roethlis,
Speaker 2: it's not even the same guys in on the coaching staff,
Speaker 2: right right, right, Like the guys on the coaching staff
Speaker 2: have all changed.
Speaker 3: They've only used one pick in the first two rounds
Speaker 3: on a quarterback. And it'd be different if it's the Bears.
Speaker 2: You got a different Yeah, you get a different quarterback
Speaker 2: coaching here. You've got a different offensive coordinator than what
Speaker 2: you have when you drafted Kenny Pickett than what you
Speaker 2: have when you drafted Mason Rudolph Mason, and Mason Rudolf
Speaker 2: was a third round pick. Yeah, and he's developed fine
Speaker 2: for a third round pick. Your people want to start him,
Speaker 2: but they haven't developed.
Speaker 3: You're oer for one. It'd be like if Tony Gwynn
Speaker 3: grounds out the shortstop as first a bat that guys
Speaker 3: never yeah, yeah, right, terrible right, no chance.
Speaker 2: No chance at all.
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
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