1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt kicking off our number two 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: here on Wednesday, it is time for a little mock 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: draft it up. Let's mock it up here. We're gonna 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: use the Pro Footballnetwork dot Com simulator today and uh, 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: the first twenty picks are in. We are up at 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: twenty one. We have three trade offers. The Rams are 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: offering pick twenty six in next year's two to come 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 2: up to twenty one. They're also they also want pick 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: two twenty nine. Okay, because they don't have a second, 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: and I'm not having a second makes it tough. But 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: the Jets are offering forty two, seventy three, one ten 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: and next year second for twenty one and one fifty six. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: Forty two is the first one though. Huh yeah, that's 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: their second run. Okay, next year's two could be yeah, 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: that could be very very valuable. 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: And well, the Chargers are offering twenty two and eighty 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: six to come up one spot. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: I always think that's like stealing. 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: It is kind of stealing and right, but they offered it. 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, obviously there's somebody there that they want 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: to take that they think we might take. 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: I'm cool with that, but I'm not cool with then 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: trade down again. Yeah, you know, like I could see 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: that deal if there's somebody that they absolutely don't want 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: to get jumped because they love them. It's our third 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: round pick to him. But I don't think that's crazy. 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and look and see who they might 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: want to come up and gets Loveland there, or Derek Harmon, 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: John A. Barron, the cornerback out of Texas, Tyler Booker, 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: g Hud Campbell, Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from Ohio State, 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: Walter Nolan, Nick Scurton, Gray's Abel Kenneth Grant is all 36 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: is also there. 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: They may think. 38 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: Maybe they think we're gonna take Grant and they want Grant, 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: or they. 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: Would rather talk. I mean, I'm cool taking that Chargers 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 3: deal because any of those three are fine. I would 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: rather talk to the Rams, I think at twenty six, okay, 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: I know they don't have a two we able to 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: counter on this count. Yeah, Okay, their next pick is 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: at ninety. Can we get so you would rather twenty 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: six ninety and next year's third not next year second? 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: We can try. 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: I would prefer to do that. One of those D 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: tackles will be there in five picks. They accepted it, Okay, 50 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: there you go, Yeah that makes sense. Okay, we're gonna 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: just reject. I'd be shocked if they're trading up for 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: a D tackle. 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: So the Chargers wanted the They wanted joh A Barron, which, okay, 54 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: I could say they might think we would take him. 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I could see the Rams want did they 56 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: take They came up to get g Hot Campbell? Okay, okay, 57 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: which that would make it gotcha? Uh? 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: Then James Pierce went, Walter Nolan went, Derek Harmon went. 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: Okay, doesn't love that. That's almost worst case scenario. But 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: I still think Grant is fine. 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant, Omario and Hampton also there. Okay, so you 62 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: get you get your pick of Amari and Hampton or 63 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant. 64 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean you knew that it was trading down. 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: Wasn't gonna hurt you. 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but all three of those guys were there. 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: So we're we're pretty comfortable, right right, and Hampton, so 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: we're taking Grant agreed, Okay, Kenneth Grant is the pick. 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Got a little future pick there involved to. 70 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: A future pick. 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: We got an extra pick in this draft, but now 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: we gotta wait a bit. Yeah, well, we didn't get 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: an extra pick in this draft. We moved but big time, 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: but we got extra We got a third. We gave 75 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: up to twenty nine though. Oh okay, okay, we just 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: moved up. Gotcha, gotcha? 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: Okay. We are now up at pick eighty three and 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: the top players available Alfred Collins. 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: It's a tough one with Grant. That have been easier 80 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: with Nolan or Harmon. But yeah, boy, that's some beef 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: to put in that room. Jack becch Okay. 82 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: Wide receiver from TCU, Ozzie Tripio offensive tackle from Boston College, 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: Denzel Burke the cornerback from Ohio State, Brett Carter, linebacker 84 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: from Clemson. Chris Paul, is there a position you want 85 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: to hit here? Rather than just reading off names? 86 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: Quarterback? 87 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: The quarterbacks available Tyler Shuck, Will Howard, Quinn, Yours, Dylan Gabriel, Riley, 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: Leonard cal McCord. 89 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: I was hoping for Milroe but I would consider shock 90 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: running back. You're looking at Scatabo. Yeah, Damian Martinez, Olie Gordon, 91 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: Dylan Samson, R. J. Harvey, Devin Neil. I don't really 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: like what's there overall. 93 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Wide receiver you're looking at Bett Tez Johnson, Tory Horton 94 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: from Colorado State, Xavier Estrepo, Savion Williams, ty Felton, Donte Thornton. 95 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: I don't love it. I don't like. I mean, a 96 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 3: lot of our favorite players must have gone off the board. 97 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: Let's look at the defensive lineman. 98 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: How about other defensive tackles other than Collin. 99 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: Alfred Collins there, Yeah, Omar Norman Lott from Tennessee, Shamar 100 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: Turner from Texas A and m diom Walker from Kentucky. 101 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: Josh Farmer from Florida State. 102 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: I think I'd go Collins. It's very redundant, but they're big, massive, 103 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: tone setter, talented dudes. It's not our usual build, to 104 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: say the least. Don't we have another pic here? Real soon? 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: We do? 106 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, if there's somebody like it, certainly I could be 107 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: convinced because I could also take Farmer cornerback. 108 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: The cornerbacks you're looking at Burke Dorian Strong from Virginia 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: tech Zia, Alexander Kobe Bryant from Kansas, Jordan Hancock from 110 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Quincy Rally from Louisville. 111 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: Man, I'm not I don't have third round on any 112 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: of these guys. 113 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: I think maybe just take shock. 114 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: I'd be fine with that too, because I think you'll 115 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: get Farmer or Collins in a couple of picks here, 116 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: good chance. Yeah right, we may not get shocked, though, 117 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: I would be shocked. Yeah. I mean even if he's 118 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: a long term too, it's worth it. It might be intriguing. Yeah, 119 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: I like it all right, Tyler Shucke, it is okay. 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: Now we're up again at ninety and looking at those 121 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: defensive tackles. Now, well, Schamar Turner is now the top 122 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: guy because Collins went. Collins went to the Raiders. Farmers 123 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: still there. 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: Farmer is still there though, CJ. West is there is 125 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: there an offensive. 126 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: Johnny Cornelius from Oregon, Anthony Belton from NC State, Holland 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: Pierce from Rutgers, Logan Brown from Kansas, Chase Lunt from Yukon, 128 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: Charles Grant from William and. 129 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: Mary Grant's my favorite. But I think i'd go Farmer 130 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: running back. 131 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: You're looking at Bay Sheell, Tuton, Damian Martinez, Olie Gordon, 132 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: Dillon Samson, RJ. Harvey. 133 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: That might be next round. Okay, we don't pick again 134 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: into one twenty three, so mm I think that's early 135 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: for those backs not loving the build so far. No, well, 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: I get it, and sometimes it goes that way. 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Cure Guards, Dylan Fairchild from Georgia, Jackson Slater from sack State, 138 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: Garrett Dellinger from LSU, Luke Candra from Cincinnati, Miles Frasier 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: from LSU. 140 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: I think they're more middle later guys too. Yeah, I 141 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: think Farmers the best player out there. I didn't love 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: the receivers, didn't love the corners. 143 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: Let me look at the edge guys, because some of 144 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: these edges. 145 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: Are also sometimes they overlap. 146 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: We've got Grant Jordan Birch from Morgan. He's big enough 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: to ride around. 148 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: He's big. Yeah, don't feel real comfortable bumping man. 149 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Tyler barn from Miami. You know. 150 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: David Walker from Central Arkansas, Antoine Powell Ryland from Virginia Tech. No, 151 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: Fidel Digs from Syracuse. That's a no. 152 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: Savion Jones. 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: Jones is the other one. That's like Birch size. Yeah, 154 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: it's a projection, but there is talent there. Yeah, I 155 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: mean he's got the length. I mean, I can't imagine 156 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: taking him over Farmer though I know they're real difference. 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: But one guy I know what he is. The other 158 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: one I got to project. Okay, I don't want a 159 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: problem with that. Yeah, Farmers, I don't like what. I mean. 160 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: What came off the board was a lot of our 161 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: favorite dudes. 162 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: Way different rankings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, on different rankings. Okay, 163 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: we're up at one twenty three and top players available 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: Dean Walker. I'm not sure that save on Williams. 165 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: That's not bad. 166 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: Samel Mondon junior from the linebacker from Georgia, ty Felton, 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: the wide receiver from Maryland. Ronde Gadson tight end from Syracuse. 168 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: Damian Martinez is back now available. 169 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have a trigger here. 170 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Damian Martinez. 171 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: It is okay. He may have been my favorite one 172 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: that you listed last time. 173 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: All right, we're up at one fifty six. You know, 174 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 2: the best player available is R. J. Harvey from UCF. 175 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: I like Harvey a lot too. Yeah, Harvey and Martinez 176 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: would be really close to my rankings. 177 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: Then it's J. J. Pageese, the defensive tackle from Ole 178 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: Miss good to fill there, Devin Neil Riley, Leonard Luke Candra, 179 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: the guard from Cincinnati, uh Seth McLaughlin. Elijah Roberts there 180 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: he was just in fact yesterday, the defensive tackle from SMU, 181 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: Jalen Rivers, the offensive tackle from Miami, Sebastian Castro the 182 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: safety from Iowa. 183 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: Rivers might be your starting guard next year. It could be, 184 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 3: you know, with some tackle capabilities. I wouldn't hate that. 185 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: He reminds me a lot of Jones from LSU or tackle, 186 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: but probably guard, but not one only guard. 187 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Zoff Frasier still there, and Utsa Cam 188 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: Jackson was still there. So, I mean, there are so many, 189 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: there's so many nose tackles in this draft. It's just crazy. 190 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: Tim Smith's still there, Jordan James was still there. 191 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, running back. 192 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: What are you feeling here? 193 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: Probably Rivers? I think you said Williams a receiver still there? 194 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: I did round ago that was around that. I don't 195 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: think we even got that. Yeah, he's gone, he's long gone. 196 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: He's risen up some of these boards. People finally caught 197 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: on that he's actually good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, unless there 198 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: was a receiver or corner that just blew your doors off. 199 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: The river stands out and the offensive lineman still available. Yeah, 200 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: and you're right, he might be a guard next year. 201 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: But that's fine, that's kind of fine. That's exactly what 202 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: you'll go for. 203 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. 204 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: Jalen Rivers, offensive lineman from Miami. 205 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: Is to pick. 206 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: We got one left here. This is one eighty five. 207 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: Our final pick. Cal McCord still there and we took 208 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: shut Simmy and Borrow defensive tackle from Miami. Jake Majors 209 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: the center from Texas. Nick Nash wide receiver San Jose 210 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: State on the s Peebles, undersized defensive tackle at Virginia Tech. 211 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: Katon Crawford, safety had in Nevada. Mitchell Evans, a tight 212 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: end from Notre Dame. Jay Higgins linebacker from Iowa, Cam Jackson. 213 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: If you don't need him, but Crawford's a heck of 214 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: a tester, athlete and project. 215 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: Jabar Mohammad is there, the cornerback out of Oregon could 216 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: use a corner. He'd be a slot. 217 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's not all bad. 218 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: Little slot man. Jalen Smith, the cornerback out of the 219 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: USC is there. 220 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: I like him, Yeah, I'd say that might be my 221 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: favorite corner You mentioned d back, you mentioned do it. 222 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jaylen Smith it is. 223 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, one more in the equation would make sense. Yeah. 224 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 2: And he could play inside, he could play outside, he 225 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: can do both. Right, Yeah, so okay, some versatility. Let's 226 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: see how we came out of here. All right, So 227 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: we traded back to twenty six. We get the Rams 228 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: third round draft pick next year. 229 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: Don't forget that, right. 230 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: We got Kenneth Grant at twenty six. We took Tyler 231 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: Shuck at eighty three. You're not saying that's cheating anymore. 232 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: I still think it is. I don't think there's any 233 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: chance he gets in the eighties. I think he's a 234 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: going round two. 235 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: We took Josh Farmer at ninety. That was one of 236 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: the extra picks that we picked up. Damian Martinez at 237 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: won twenty three, Jalen Rivers, the offensive tackle out of 238 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: Miami at one fifty six. There you go, there you go, 239 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: and Jalen Smith, the cornerback at a USC at one 240 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: eighty five. 241 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: I don't mind the hall we ended up with, but 242 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: I hated our options every time we were up just 243 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: the best stuff. Yeah, I mean even the first round pick. 244 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: It's like Nolan and Harmon went. 245 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: It kind of narrowed our Yeah, our road got narrowed 246 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: real quick. 247 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: Real quick. I mean again, I don't have many options. Yeah, 248 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: we didn't have many options at all. It's all of 249 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: a sudden it was like, well I better take them, 250 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: you know, we get a lot of value or you know, boy, 251 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: there's ten guys to pick from here. 252 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, we came out of this with six picks. We 253 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: started with six picks. We came out of it with 254 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: six picks. But we picked up that third round pick. 255 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: Next Let's not forget that. If we had three third 256 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: round picks next year, right, or even four possibility if 257 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: Fields places his way into a into a third round 258 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: competitory pick, wow, first, a second, and multiple multiple thirds. 259 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: Now I would like if I had to trade my 260 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: first and second this year or next what I'm saying 261 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: next year, if I trade my one and two and 262 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: even two of those threes to go get a quarterback. 263 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: I don't even know if you have to touch next 264 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: year's one, necessarily. 265 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: Might not because you've so much firepower, right, Yeah, And 266 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what the case will be, but you 267 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: might trade one of those thirds between now and the 268 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 3: opening day. I mean someone's out. 269 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: I mean it probably not, probably not. That woulduld have 270 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: to be somebody who's really young on it. 271 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: It would have to be like you get the first 272 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: contractors and you go get car or something like that. 273 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: Or I don't even think he'd cost you. That would 274 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: brush you that, No, I mean, but you at least 275 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: have that option. If there's someone that's unhappy, that's expensive, 276 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: you could be one of the teams in it. 277 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: More stuff, more stuff, more stuff, more. 278 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: Stuff, right, Yeah? How much fun would be to a 279 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: mock with four thirds? 280 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: And it's obvious that's the plan for the Steelers. 281 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 282 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: People saying that they don't have a plan, I'm going 283 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: to say this again, the people saying the Steelers don't 284 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: have a plan haven't been paying attention to what they've 285 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: done with next year's draft. I know they're not doing 286 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: that simply because the draft is in Pittsburgh. They're doing 287 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: that because the plan is to have all these picks 288 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: available next year to go get your guy. 289 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean it adds up much better, 290 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: and there's so much cap space that they could fill 291 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: other deeds before the draft next year. No, I think 292 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: that the perception of the team and their buying power 293 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: a year from now will be a lot more clear. 294 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know so, well that was our latest mock draft. 295 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: Like that one is much like last Fridays. 296 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: I remember that that one going whoa, that just fell 297 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: right into place. 298 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why it goes sometimes. But that's why 299 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: you do these things to see. Oh yeah, what happens 300 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: when you do it this way. 301 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: I mean I would still make the trade with the 302 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: Rams knowing these are the players on the board, this 303 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: is the deal in place. Maybe Nolan gets there half 304 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: the time, or Harmon or whatever. You know. Yeah, I 305 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: didn't mind taking Grand No, not at all, right, right, 306 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: not at all. 307 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: That's why you build that twenty one. He was on 308 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: our twenty one pretty high. Yeah really, anyways, let's get 309 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am 310 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on the 311 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network, Matt and now I'll be back with 312 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: more right after this. 313 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 314 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 315 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Black and Golds in Steelers Nation Radio. 316 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale, Lolli. He is 317 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: the Williamson and Matt You're part of the draft digest 318 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: through that puts that publication ten years out something like that, 319 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: and that just came out this week. 320 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: Behind the scenes. You won't find my name in there anywhere. 321 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: The only name I see in there is Ross Tucker's 322 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: the only one who gets any kind of credit. He's 323 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: the one to set us up with the gigway back when. 324 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: And hey, you interested doing the shore and he writes, 325 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: you'll get no credit. As you get you'll get a paycheck. 326 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: Better paycheck showed up and several copies of the publication 327 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: showed up the other day. 328 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: So I was paging through it today as we're waiting 329 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: to do the show, and they have some lists here. 330 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: People love lists, but these ones are kind of germane 331 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: to the conversation as we get closer to the draft. 332 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: I didn't write any lists, so these aren't me. 333 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: They haven't broken down. And here we'll do the first one. Here, 334 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: ten prospects who are underrated by the media. Okay, now 335 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: that's the here's the That's the thing when you when 336 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: you start looking at. 337 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: Now we'll pull back the curtain. I assume whoever did 338 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: these lists turn these in whenever I turned my team 339 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: needs into and that was several weeks ago. The world's changing. 340 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: The world has changed, but not to the degree with 341 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: that some of these guys aren't still underrated by the 342 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: draft prognosticators, the mel Kiper's and you know we do 343 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: all the mock stuff and we talk about players we 344 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: feel are underrated. 345 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 346 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, never one has their list right, happens all the time. 347 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: So here's their list. Andrew mccooba, the safety out of Clemson. 348 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: I can see that does a lot and just. 349 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: Not real big, but he's I mean he's rated down 350 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: around the hundreds somewhere in that rage. 351 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he will played a game that should stick 352 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: in the league. I mean, I don't think these people 353 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: are saying is Troy Paul maler No. 354 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: Benjamin Morrison, the cornerback at a Notre Dame. 355 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: I Underson agree. I think he's would be absolutely firmly 356 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: in my top five if it's not for the hip. 357 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 3: He just hadn't done anything and he's got the hit 358 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: the right I mean, the medicals are going to be 359 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: huge for him from two years ago was quite good. 360 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: I can remember watching Notre Dame two years ago and 361 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: I was looking at their one cornerback because he was 362 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: draft eligible. And I'm watching him. 363 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: And yeah, he was another tall, long dude. Yeah. 364 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: Michael Birch, who's the Steelers assistant PR director, used to 365 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 2: be the PR working prt Notre Dame. Oh okay, And 366 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: I'm watching this and I'm going, who's that dude? 367 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: Who's the other guy? Yeah? 368 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: And I asked Michael, but oh, he's He's like he'll 369 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: be eligible next year. 370 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, guy, he did a number on Marvin Harrison Junior. 371 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I do think he's underrated. I don't 372 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: know anything about medicine, but I guess hips aren't as 373 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: bad as they used to be. But this is his 374 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: second one, the other side one of them. It's a 375 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: laborhm tear in the hip, which I don't know what 376 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: that means. I know its a laborm tear in the shoulder. 377 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: Feels like I have one. I had surgery on it 378 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: that was not fun. I mean, laborams are in the body. 379 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: I think there's the one that need it wasn't Yeah, joints, 380 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: it's a joint thing. Okay, I would immediately thought, though 381 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: all the hip turn the corners do that. That's a 382 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: terrible injury. And if he had one before, is this 383 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: a recurring thing or But I don't. I mean, that's 384 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: don't take my word of it. 385 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: That's what caused Tony Boselli to retire. He had a 386 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: labor surgery that they did they screwed up. Yeah, yeah, 387 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 2: and he didn't have the extension on his arm that 388 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: he used to and he couldn't play anything. 389 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: That was the end of it. No, but I agree 390 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: with Morrison being underrated. If he's clean, he's number one corner. 391 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: H Kyle Williams, a wide receiver out of Washington State. 392 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 393 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: I think he's been painfully pay rated the entire process. 394 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: Some people seem to realize that he's probably going to 395 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: catch a Day two, and I think he will. 396 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: He's got size, he's got speed. 397 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good route runner. He's a good player. 398 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: Quarterback Max Brosmer from Minnesota. 399 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that. I mean everyone just kind 400 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: of throws him in as a maybe draft of the 401 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: seven round pick. I think he has a game that 402 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: could stick in the league. 403 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Tate Ratledge from Georgia. I don't have him underrated. 404 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: I don't know my top five is a guard. 405 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 406 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: I think he's a really good player. 407 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: I think he was number five for me too. Yeah. 408 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: I like both of the Georgia gardens. 409 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good players, and I get it there. Maybe 410 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: they're being maybe they're being looked at his fourth late third, 411 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: fourth round guys, and maybe they're gonna be third round guys, 412 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: you know, in at the end of the second round, 413 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: they're gonna be starting guards in the league. 414 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: This happens at Bama, this happens at Georgia, Like George 415 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: is gonna have four offensive linemen drafted. Just none of 416 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: them are easy slam dunk for a round picks, you know, like, 417 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: you know, they all can play. They all can play. 418 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: The level competition is strong. You know, they're all athletes, 419 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: they're all specimens, they're all you know, they're not hyped 420 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: up like Broderick Jones or Mims. You know, they don't 421 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: look like freaks of nature. But they're good, no doubt. 422 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: Kyle mcgonagh, guy, No, we brought him up in a 423 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 3: similar manner. Again. Could he have a Pacheco like career? Sure? Yeah, Yeah, 424 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 3: I think he could be a low end one and 425 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: if he gets the opportunity or somebody. 426 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: Gets hurt going. 427 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: Starter and gets a bunch of yards, like right right, 428 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: he runs hard. Uh. 429 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: Defensive Backtorian Strong from Virginia Tech. 430 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 3: I agree, he's got a weight speed. 431 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great guy. Charles Grant from William and Mary, 432 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: the offensive lineman, talked about him a lot. 433 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people have said, like, Matt, you 434 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: go quick drafting this guy. I mean, I'm like, he's. 435 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 2: Always available, like the same thing with like Ty Robinson, 436 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: every like we get to these late rounds, like was 437 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 2: available again in the late rounds. Yeah, yeah, when we 438 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: met it, but we'd already taken to two defensive linemen. 439 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not taking I'm not even gonna mention 440 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: him here. 441 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: I mean, Grant such a good athlete. You think they'll 442 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: know some some things about William and Mary, I mean 443 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: in general, and I put some credence in this, but uh, 444 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: just yesterday Pro Football Focus put their O line superlatives, 445 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: you know, and they listed these are the best protectors, 446 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: these are the best inside zone blockers, best outside zone blockers. 447 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: He was number one on outside zone. Now have a 448 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: big deal he's blocking William and Mary opponents, and I 449 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 3: would love to see him as Stenier Bowl. But that's 450 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: why he's not going around one or two, you know. 451 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that's why it's even in the conversation. 452 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: Wide receiver Kannada Mumfield from Pittsburgh. 453 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think I know more about him being 454 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: a pit guy, but I've heard that name more and 455 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: more of the last month. That good in space, good chance, 456 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: you know, change direction. He must have done well with 457 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: Their pro was really good. Okay, I didn't see the numbers, 458 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: but just because all of a sudden, his name keeps 459 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: popping up and I know the prote has happened. 460 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: And then linebacker Kobe King from Penn. 461 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: State, another guy I don't know enough about. Penn State's 462 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: got some interesting dudes, though, I like both their safeties. 463 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: You know, King's a name that's going to get drafted 464 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: for sure. 465 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: You know ten prospects who are overrated by the media. 466 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: Walter Nolan from Ole Miss I don't agree. I don't 467 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: agree with that either, No, Prince you from ole. 468 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: Miss I can see that he's kind of a higher 469 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: mercenary pass rush own league guy. 470 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Jackson Dart from. 471 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: Ole messsif I'm seeing a trend here. Yeah, Pegee Ole, 472 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: miss but the coroner amos and the wide receiver. 473 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: And right, I do think Jackson Dart is being overrated. 474 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: The Mississippi State guy write this or something. Maybe somebody 475 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: hates Lane Kiffin on it. Right, No, I'm not big 476 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: on Dart either. He would probably be on my left. 477 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: I mean I think he's he's his second round talent 478 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: that's being talked about as a first round pick. 479 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: And right, I don't see special traits either. 480 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: Tight End Harold Fannin from Bowling Green. 481 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more on that. Yeah, he's a lot 482 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 3: of manufacturer like Yeah, a lot of manufacturer touches, very 483 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 3: straight line ish. He doesn't like come out of his 484 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: brakes real well. 485 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: Defensive lineman Kenneth Grant from Michigan. 486 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: I mean, if I had to make that argument, it 487 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: would be his buddy got most of the double teams 488 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: and he benefited from a situation. But I think the 489 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: tools are crazy. Linebacker Danny Stutsman from Oklahoma. 490 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: Made a lot of plays. 491 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: He made a lot of plays. I mean in my 492 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: initial linebacker ranks, I think he was number five. Yeah, 493 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: I could be convinced he's eight. I mean I don't 494 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: feel strong about him. Right. 495 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: Wide receiver Matthew Golden from Texas. 496 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: Maybe if we're just talking about like, boy, he's clearly 497 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: the best receiver in the draft, and he's awesome, he 498 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: wouldn't be the best river most drafts, right, I mean 499 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: I like him a lot, but he's not Jamar Chase. 500 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: I mean, he's not neighbors, you know. I mean, so 501 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: that way, maybe he's overrated for wide receiver ones. 502 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: Running back Quinn Shawn Judkins from Ohio State who used 503 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: to be at Ole Miss a good point. 504 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 3: There might be something going on here. Yeah. I did 505 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: not write this list, nor do I have a bias 506 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: against old Miss. I mean, Judkins is fine. I don't 507 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: think he plays quite as fast as he tied. I 508 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: don't think so either. Yeah, the time, the time that 509 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: he ran was kind of surprising. Shocked me. Yeah, I 510 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: saw him get caught a few times. It was late 511 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: in the year and they were played one hundred games. 512 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 3: He was a little worn down. 513 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: But quarterback Tyler Shuck from Louisville. 514 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna agree with in that one. 515 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: And edge rusher Jack Sawyer from Ohio State. 516 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 3: I think that's the best one ever. Yeah, I think 517 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 3: he is massively overrated. I can't imagine team using this. 518 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: I can run pick off the ten combine workout Warriors. 519 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: Nick Emuari safety from South Carolina. Offensive tackle arm On 520 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: Membo from Missouri. I say Membo would be the old 521 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: lineman that stood out the most. 522 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: Edge rusher Shamar Stewart from Texas, A and M these. 523 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: Are no brainers, yeah, but need to be repeated. 524 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: Defensive lineman Ty Robinson from Nebraska. 525 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: That one was the most surprising of the group. 526 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, I was surprised that he ran and 527 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: did everything as well as he did really well, Yeah, 528 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: because he was productive too. Defensive back Darian Porter from 529 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: Iowa State. 530 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 3: He's almost like AI in terms of rare stuff. 531 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Jared Wilson from Georgia. 532 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of showed up. We mentioned this Georgia 533 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: O linman. 534 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: Wide receiver Matthew Golden from Texas. 535 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't play like a four two flying right, 536 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: that's Tyreek stuff, you know. 537 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: Wide receiver Jalen Noel from Iowa. It's a really good showing. Yeah, 538 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: and all you know, change right everything. Baseielle Tooting the 539 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: running back from Virginia Tech. 540 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't surprising, but it was a great showing. Yeah. 541 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: And then, uh, tight end Thomas Fedon from Nebraska. 542 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, he had a good showing too, mid round guy. Yeah. 543 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: The ten safest players outside of Round one, Okay. Wide 544 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: receiver Jaden Higgins from Iowa State. Okay, I mean he's 545 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: a pretty safe prospect. Yeah, he does a lot of 546 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: good stuff. 547 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: I heard something just recently that he had an unbelievable 548 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 3: announce amount of defensive pass interference calls against him. 549 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, yet I can see it right right. Safety 550 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: Andrew mccoobaugh from Clemson. 551 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: I could see that too. We brought him up just recently. 552 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: Tight End Mason Taylor from l s U. 553 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 3: I think that's some of these. You know, Dad was 554 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer and better on the game. 555 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: Uncle's a Hall of Fame, right right, right, I mean. 556 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: That's you're not gonna be overwhelmed by the league. 557 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: Cornerback Quincy Riley from Louisville, Okay, I think he's gonna. 558 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: Follow him in that lot, but I'd gladly take him 559 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: in fourth, So I think that's when i'd start considering. 560 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm very happy in the fifth. Yeah. 561 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: Quarterback col McCord from Syracuse. 562 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. He might throw a million 563 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: picks and I don't know if he's safe. Safe, but 564 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 3: it's not the word I would use. 565 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: Wide receiver Jack Beck from TCU. 566 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: I agree with that. 567 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna make plays. He might never be a star, 568 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: but he's gonna make plays. 569 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: I mean, like in a perfect NFL system, he's your 570 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: third best pass catcher. Yeah, and that's great. That's great. 571 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: Safety Rayon Lane from Navy. He's a really good I 572 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: mean he's a good athlete. 573 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 574 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: Mcgonaugh guy okay from Rutgers. 575 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean really plays hard. 576 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Jalen Rivers from Miami snagged him. 577 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe that's a wealth. He's not a tackle, he's guard. 578 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: He's gonna be some being useful for you somewhere. 579 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: Linebacker Jay Higgins from Iowa, Okay. Solid ten riskiest players 580 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: in the top fifty. Quarterback Jaylen Milroe Alabama, sure. 581 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Defensive lineman Walter Nolan from Ole, Miss Okay. I mean, 582 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: if you're worried about off the fielder character or whatever. 583 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: Edge rusher James Pierce from Tennessee. 584 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: I agree with that. Yeah, he doesn't really play the 585 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: run and he's quite thin. 586 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: Wide receiver Saveon Williams from TCU. I haven't seen anybody 587 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: that has him in the top fifty. 588 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, I say something. I'm not sure Millroe goes 589 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: in the top fifty. I'm not sure Williams goes in 590 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: the top fifty. Williams doesn't really have a home. 591 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: Linebacker Carson sweahing Hear from UCLA. 592 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 3: I don't think that one's risky really one year production, 593 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: there's only one year that's one hundred per century. 594 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: Edge rusher Shamar Stewart from Texas A. 595 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: And M no doubt, I don't know. 596 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive back Chavon Ravel from East Carolina. 597 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: Just don't know enough. Yeah, and makes them risky for. 598 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: An A c L. You don't know what he's right. 599 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant and his games are against really bad teams. 600 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: When there's a Kenneth Granted defensive lineman from Michigan, I 601 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: guess I don't know how he could really bust out though, 602 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: I mean it's not like his efforts bad or you know, 603 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: going to eat himself out of league. 604 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: Safety Nick m Uary from South Carolina for where. 605 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: You pick him. I get it. I get that. Yeah. 606 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: And then Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame based on the 607 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: injury stuff. 608 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: Right. 609 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: Finally, the ten most versatile players, Okay, Jalen Walker from Georgia, 610 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: the linebacker, Saveon Williams, wide receiver from TCUA. 611 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: Do a lot of different stuff with Yeah. Malachi Starks, 612 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: the safety out of Georgia. Not just a free or anything, right, 613 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: Jalen River, Okay. 614 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: Offensive lineman from Miami. 615 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he might be a tackle. 616 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: Nick Amuari from South Carolina. 617 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he does linebacker stuff and all that. 618 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Donovan Jackson from Ohio State. 619 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: They showed you could play left tackle for the Buckeyes 620 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: or something. 621 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: That. 622 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: Lequin Allen he running back out of Syracuse. 623 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: Phenomenal receiver. 624 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: He might be a slot. 625 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: He might be a slot to say, a returner. 626 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: Tight end Tyler Warren Penn State. 627 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he throws passes that using line them up all 628 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: over line of scrimmage. I mean he's he's definitely versatile. Yeah. 629 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: Defensive back Jacob Parrish from k State not just a slot. Yeah, 630 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: he can play outside. He's tiny, he's. 631 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: Small, but he's fighty and does it pretty well. Yeah. 632 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to do it every snap. 633 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: Santas Drill showed last year that you can. 634 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can get away with it. 635 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 636 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: And edge rusher Olami Oladish old Dejo, I should say 637 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: from UCLA. Some of these linebacker turned edges are on 638 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: that list. I mean Walker. Yeah, it doesn't mean I 639 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: wanted to play a linebacker in the league though, Yeah, 640 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: I hear you. I definitely have a Baron on that list too, right. 641 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: Anyways, that's the list there from some of the lists 642 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: from the Draft Digest. You can check that out. Matt, 643 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: that participated in that, even though my favorite part. 644 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: About it is the draft diddies on each team. But 645 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: I just go to Draft history and I stare at 646 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: them and I find trends. I come up with thirty two. 647 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: They're fun. 648 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 649 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 650 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back with more 651 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: right after this. 652 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: In the least, He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and 653 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of 654 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 655 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: And we are back I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the 656 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt ESPN's Ben Sollock has put together 657 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: a thing here where twenty twenty five quarterback mock draft 658 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: the team fits through seven. 659 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I did scan this. 660 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: I have not looked at it yet, but I am 661 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: interested here. 662 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: Obviously, he's just kind of putting landing spots in what 663 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: round it would make sense and where they all end 664 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: up when it's all said and done. He has cam 665 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: Word at number one overall. I think that's slam done done. 666 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: Pencil that in. 667 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 668 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: He has Shadre Sanders going third to the Giants. 669 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: I would I would not consider it, but I would 670 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: consider it more if I were them, if I only 671 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: had Carter to pick from and not Hunter. But I 672 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: still don't see it happening. 673 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: I think I'm if Carter were clean right now, I'm 674 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: taking Carter. 675 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: Over Sanders you're talking about Yeah, me too, me too. 676 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: But I could see where picking at three, they'd be like, 677 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna take Sanders. Now we get an 678 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: early second round pick. We'll get an edge press there. 679 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: I don't think they need it. I don't even need it. 680 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: And that's the thing. It's like that's why I was saying, 681 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: if it's. 682 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: Hunter here, you just take Hunter, and. 683 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: If he only plays one way for you, he helps somewhere, Yeah, 684 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: you know where. 685 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: Because you're kind of a no man's land here like 686 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: the other one. 687 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: That trade Thibodeau. Not really, I just traded for Burns. 688 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: I may take Mason Graham No, probably no, right, I. 689 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: Mean their d tackles aren't bad either, you know. I mean, 690 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: if there was a there's Joe Alt sitting there, I'll 691 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: take him. But quarterbacks of the need, yeah, don't. They 692 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: don't need a left tackle, right, Yeah, I mean Membos 693 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: probably won't be the pick. 694 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: So in that situation, Sanders makes sense at three. 695 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: As bad as they are, there are not a million 696 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: holes on the team either. Yeah, I mean, they're just 697 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: a bad quarterback. 698 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: Play round two, picked number thirty three, Jackson dart to 699 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: the Browns And. 700 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: He's not like projecting trades or any of that stuff. 701 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: Right, He's just saying this is where they should go. 702 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: Like I bet a Browns fans, which probably don't have 703 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: a whole lot of them listening at the moment, would 704 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: gladly say I'll trade my first two picks for Hunter 705 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 3: and Dart. I'm not a Dart fan, but I could 706 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: see where I bet the organization would do it. Right now, 707 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: I think so, you know, yeah, I mean if you 708 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: asked the GM, would you give me your first two 709 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: picks for Darton Hunter? Yeah? 710 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, with no moving around, but no moving around, don't 711 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: do a thing. 712 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 713 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: Round two, pick fifty two, which used to be the 714 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: Steelers pick Tyler Schuck from Louis Voge Seattle. 715 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: Makes sense. I mean, his age sometimes makes me wonder 716 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: what teams would it would matter in Seattle, wouldn't matter 717 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: at all? Is he the same age as I'd say 718 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: that probably about the same age, right right? He might 719 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: be better in a year, who knows. Yeah, I think 720 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: that's a great spot. Round three, pick eighty three, Steelers 721 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: pick Jaln Milroe. I mean on that, I mean that 722 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: he's perfectly happy taking him at eighty three, absolutely, I mean, 723 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: deep down, I don't think he'll get there. We talked 724 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 3: about him a ton yesterday and made some waves. Don't 725 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: get me wrong, but the fact that he was invited 726 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 3: to the draft. Willis and Corral were invited to the 727 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 3: draft too, right, I mean, quarterbacks different are different, They're 728 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 3: different it doesn't mean he's definitely going in the first round. 729 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I said, like they put out their 730 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: thirty invitations or however many they give out, and twelve 731 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: guys said. 732 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: Yes, right right, Well he's a big name, dude. 733 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: They want people in that green room. 734 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 3: They want Alabama's quarter and they want eyes. 735 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: On the TV, and the quarterback to get the eyes, 736 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: you invite the quarterbacks even if they're not first round 737 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: guys might not even be a second round guy. 738 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: Like we didn't think Willis would fall as far as 739 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 3: he did right before the draft, but he was not 740 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: guaranteed the first round pick either, let alone Corral. 741 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: If the draft were to fall this way, if it 742 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: were one three top picks, those four guys are off 743 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: the board. We've now taken those four quarterback needy teams 744 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: out of the equation. I could see Milroe sliding a 745 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 2: little bit. 746 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, then who else is in? Yeah? 747 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: Who are the next? 748 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: I mean, Browns and Giants are out of the mix. 749 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: Tennessee's obviously out of the mix. 750 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: Would New Orleans take one? 751 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 3: Maybe? Well, Colen Moore came from the Eagles. He could 752 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 3: definitely see some Jalen Hurts there, so maybe that would 753 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: be one. I can't imagine McVeigh would want him. Yeah, 754 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: I just don't think that's what he wants. Yeah, I 755 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: mean because he's a certain type. Yeah, so who would 756 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: They don't have any between there. That's the thing too, right, 757 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 3: they get their first round pick and then nothing until 758 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: the night. I guess they wouldn't even have a show. 759 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 2: They would have to trade up. Yeah, they don't have 760 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: the picks to do that. 761 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: I bet we come with a team more two. 762 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: So if the draft were to fall this way, I 763 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 2: could see that happen. 764 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 3: If those four quarterback needy teams all that. 765 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 2: One yeah, yeah, uh, then you're looking at round four, 766 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 2: pick one, thirty one, the Saints taking Calum McCord. 767 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they could kind of just look at 768 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 3: it with Rattler and say, I hope on these two 769 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 3: is and they still got a quarterback there. Yeah, they 770 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: still got Car Car he could learn from. He's kind 771 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: of like Car. He's more of a risk. Yeah yeah, yeah, 772 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 3: but that's fine value too. Yeah. 773 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: Round six, pick one eight seven, the Vikings take Will Howard. 774 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 3: Hmm. I don't know if i'd want two puppies in 775 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: the room together. I'd rather have a veteran better on 776 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: the block backup. But yeah, if you look at him 777 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 3: as a backup, I would have given him the Raiders 778 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 3: with Chip Kelly. 779 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: Round six, pick one, the Rams take Riley Leonard. 780 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: I don't think he throws it as well as McVeigh once, 781 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 3: but I think that's about the neighborhood Leonard goes and 782 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 3: I think he's getting he's filling the ball better. Then 783 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: people give him credit for that. He's okay. 784 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: I thought he looked good at the combine throat. 785 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. 786 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 2: Round six, picked two eleven, the Dallas Cowboys take Quin Yours. 787 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: I wonder they wouldn't after trading for Milton now though 788 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 3: probably not. I mean we're talking about six and seventh 789 00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: round pick. 790 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: Seventh round pick, and you know, does Milton yeah, is 791 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 2: he guaranteed? 792 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 3: Not like they gave up the farm for Milton. Uh. 793 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: Then you're looking at three intriguing undrafted free agent fits. 794 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 2: He has Hunter Deckers from Iowa Western going to the Dolphins. 795 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: I've heard the name, and I know nothing about the guy, 796 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: but I've heard a couple of people, right, I've heard 797 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: a couple people say this dude's okay. Where they have 798 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 3: him go to the Dolphins. Okay, if he's that type. 799 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel who goes undrafted goes to the Commanders. 800 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 3: Okay, he gets linked to the Dolphins a lot, just style. 801 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 2: They're both lefties. 802 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 3: Well they're both quick processors too, but they're also a 803 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 3: little lefties. 804 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Detroit takes a chance on Curtis Rourke from Indiana. Right, 805 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: they've already done that. 806 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 3: It's kind of the hooker hooker, right, right, just send him, 807 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 3: send him a year and see what happens. And Golf's 808 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 3: not young, he's not. Yeah, they have a lot invested 809 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: in them, but they're not looking. They're undrafted free agents. 810 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: They don't think that's gonna take you the super not. 811 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 2: Going to move the needle, all right, right, but interesting 812 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: if if Rourke doesn't get drafted, Oh I'd be all 813 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: over him. 814 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: But he's not going to do anything for you. And 815 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: I know, I know you're just going to eat him 816 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 3: for a year, him for a year. You have to 817 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 3: carry that carry. 818 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 819 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: It's tough. Undrafted you don't necessarily have him for four 820 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: years either, right, you know that's tough. It is tough. 821 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: But I'd like to get my hands on him, but boy, 822 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough to do anything with him for 823 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: a while. 824 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Milroe at eighty three is I'd be very 825 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: intrigued with how you're talking. I'm not. And a lot 826 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 2: of people were with me on the message board on this, Matt. 827 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: They're not in on your trading up to get Milroe. 828 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: I'm just crossing my mind, you know. I mean you 829 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: think about yeah, yeah, yeah, you think about all kinds 830 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: of stuff this time year. 831 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: Try to run this this scenario through your head. The 832 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: one thing we didn't do is I didn't sit here 833 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 2: and say, oh, Match, you're an idiot. 834 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 3: That's stupid. That makes no sense at all. Right, Like, 835 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 3: if you think he could be the man, not just 836 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 3: a guy, the man, we talk as possible because how 837 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: can I make that happen. 838 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: We're adults. Things we don't just immediately jump off the handles. 839 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: Oh it's stupid. 840 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 3: My my favorite one. Since I've been on this mill 841 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 3: Road kick for the last three or four days. There's 842 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 3: no way Tom and his staff could develop him. They 843 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 3: can't develop quarterbacks based on what as to say, because 844 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: Picket isn't the superstar. I mean, like, what are we 845 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: going off of here? Yeah, I don't get it. I 846 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: don't either, But you know that's a rap jack some. 847 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: Of the narratives that get put out there. Steelers can't 848 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: develop a quarterback. Mike Toom has never done it, Ben Roethlis, 849 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: it's not even the same guys in on the coaching staff, 850 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: right right, right, Like the guys on the coaching staff 851 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 2: have all changed. 852 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 3: They've only used one pick in the first two rounds 853 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 3: on a quarterback. And it'd be different if it's the Bears. 854 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: You got a different Yeah, you get a different quarterback 855 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: coaching here. You've got a different offensive coordinator than what 856 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: you have when you drafted Kenny Pickett than what you 857 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 2: have when you drafted Mason Rudolph Mason, and Mason Rudolf 858 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: was a third round pick. Yeah, and he's developed fine 859 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: for a third round pick. Your people want to start him, 860 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: but they haven't developed. 861 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 3: You're oer for one. It'd be like if Tony Gwynn 862 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 3: grounds out the shortstop as first a bat that guys 863 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 3: never yeah, yeah, right, terrible right, no chance. 864 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: No chance at all. 865 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 3: I don't get it. 866 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: Anyways, that's going to do it for today's show. So 867 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: for my partner, Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on 868 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: site running the Justin Miller hotline and making sure the 869 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 2: sound sounds good. 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