1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Big Fish Small Pod. I'm Andrew Ridal. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Today is August seventeenth, So what I have here for 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: you today is really some scouting for you listener, some 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: context really on how the team's performing, some information that 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: I kind of just was sinking out analytically about offense 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: around Major League Baseball. But yeah, before we really get 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: into it, the Marlins today play at four to ten 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: against the Padres, closing out the series looking for the sweep. 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: A fun pitching matchup. Mike Clevenger and Pablo Lopez facing off. 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Both have mid three eras. Both pitchers are five hundred 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: on the year, four and four for Clevenger, seven and 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: seven for Pablo. 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: Pretty just like fun numbers. I find. 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: That like three and a half hours with like a 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: five hundred record associated with it really does like feel 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: like it aligned with this Marlins offense streak, the fifteen 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: straight games with three or four, three or fewer runs scored. 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: They broke that streak last night with the four runs 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: and the win against San Diego. 20 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: Talked about Peyton Burdick out here very early today taking 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: extravp working on some things with his stance with the 22 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: mechanics he's walked one time. Now he gets a huge double, 23 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: puts the Marlins ahead, and Paul, that's run number four. 24 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: That's a big one for the first time since they 25 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: scored four runs. On July twenty ninth, in a six 26 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: to four loss to the Mets, the Marlins scored more 27 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: than three in a game. 28 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: So I'm really like stuck on that this Marlins offense 29 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: hasn't been great to say the least, or it hasn't 30 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: been good to say, you know, kind of a bit 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: of a real truth about where this Marlin's offense is at. They, 32 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: like I said, when fifteen games without scoring more than 33 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: three runs, and that is a big like benchmark for winning, 34 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: just like in like this like impressionistic sense, if you 35 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: give up three runs, you expect to win. 36 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: If you. 37 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Only score three runs, you might expect to lose. It's 38 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: actually right there as a number. It's even there in 39 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: the game like the save statistic, Like the three runs 40 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: in an inning is seen as like a you know, 41 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: a reasonable gap. 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: The game is still on the line. 43 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: If the Marlins or any team isn't able to score 44 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: more than like the game constantly being on the line, well, 45 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: then the game's always on the line, and that's not like. 46 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: A winning team. 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: These teams in Major League Baseball are consistently ahead of 48 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: their opponent and consistently bringing the bats every inning after inning. 49 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: So I looked into that a bit. I've been thinking 50 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: a lot lately about how just how hitters work together, 51 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: how there could be like this like critical mass sort 52 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: of thing where like having x amount of good hitters 53 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: helps propel the like lineup around helps like propel other 54 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: younger players up. Having more solid hitters that can you know, 55 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: identify what other pitchers are doing and convey that to others, 56 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: or even role model for their younger players or something 57 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: like that. I have a big curiosity on like some 58 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: sort of thing there that could be like brought out 59 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: because it does seem to be one of those just 60 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: like quiet and tangible things happening on a very overanalyzed 61 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: sport like baseball, when really, like what I find is 62 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: like the most sort of like basic of roster construction 63 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: comes comes out in that thought line that like basic 64 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: thought that just having more good hitters leads to a 65 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: better baseball team. So what I did this weekend is 66 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: kind of like watched the Marlins offense only and kind 67 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: of brought a bit of like a scout's eye to 68 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: It's like really like thinking that like like one SODA's 69 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: like your eighty grade hitter, like full bodied approaching the 70 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: plate with all of his strength, with all the reach 71 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: to cover the whole plate, and with like discipline and 72 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: all that. 73 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: He's just like the whole packaging and he puts it 74 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: all together. 75 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: And then like Jake Paul, as we saw in video, 76 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: and if you haven't seen the video of Jake Paul 77 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: taking batting and pres Andre's Bolivar andres with two e's 78 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: on Twitter, if you want to find him, it just 79 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: it's like mind blowing. It's like an easy twenty grade hitter. 80 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: It helped me to maybe put some like rudimentary grades 81 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: on some of these hitters. First of all, Joey Wendell, 82 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: I really was let down by his approach. He seemed 83 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: like he was a much more solid hitter at the 84 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: start of the year. I picture him getting more like 85 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: line drives at the middle with a more like disciplined approach, 86 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: really like not quite aggressive at the play, and he 87 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: seemed really aggressive this weekend often like first pitch swinging, 88 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: and it felt like he was like defending the zone quickly, 89 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: like reacting to the pitch without so much of a plan. 90 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: Earlier in the year, it seemed like he had that 91 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: like plan, that like professional hitter thing about him, but 92 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: I just really was not seeing it this past weekend. 93 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: I think he's about like a forty five hitter. John 94 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Birdie I put a fifty five on him. He's always 95 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: in the at bat. It seems like he can get 96 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: fooled on like some breaking pitches, but he'll like working 97 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: at that well, and even though the results weren't quite 98 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: there for him, he was still able to stay in 99 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: the at bat. I really like his approach, and his 100 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: numbers overall have been good, so I feel pretty confident 101 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: with that sort of like above average consideration for Birdie. 102 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: For reference, really like the best Marlin Garrett Cooper. I 103 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: put a sixty five on him. I don't see him 104 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: as close to your like one Soto at like the 105 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: top of the hitter charts as it were. 106 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: But the Garrett Cooper I like that. 107 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: He seems to have like two really different swings that 108 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: he takes. 109 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: He has more just like a. 110 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Like an outward like center cut that can go like 111 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: the opposite way and then he has his more like 112 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: kind of like power sort of rip at the ball 113 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: allows him to get like some good coverage and do 114 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: different things with different pitches. And I really like that 115 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: and definitely consider him to be like an above average 116 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: good hitter in Major League Baseball similar to him, not 117 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: really in all of the ways yet, but Peyton Verdick 118 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: reminds me of Cooper. It might be like the like 119 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: like strong build and like generally like favoring towards like. 120 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: The big rip. 121 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Fayton Verdick really like doesn't seem to have like a 122 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: second swing so to speak. He seems very set on 123 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: his like open stance rip. He actually felt really exposed 124 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: this weekend to any pitches away and that like really 125 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: seems to speak to it like an adjustment that needs 126 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: to be made for him. But I think he has 127 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: more like a power ups than like a Wendel. So 128 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of why they're both forty fives. Also in 129 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: that territory, I have Miguel Rojas. He had some moments 130 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: that weren't great, really swinging at like high fastballs that 131 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: he just didn't need to swing at, and it didn't 132 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: seem to be like a pitch he was going to 133 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: do something with it seemed like a reactive sort of 134 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: almost a chase pitch, but something would be like the 135 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: first pitch of an at bat. He can definitely get 136 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: like account working in his favor and get like pitches 137 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: to hit down mostly for him. He likes to golf 138 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: them it, so it seems, and that's totally like a 139 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: like a way to win it as like a batter 140 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: against the pitcher. Whereas like Nick Fortes seems to be 141 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: more disciplined in as approach and taking good swings with 142 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: some elevation obviously like the two home runs last night. 143 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: A bit like speak towards like my evaluation of him 144 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: being like I consider him to be like a fifty 145 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: five right now along with like Bertie and Anderson, because 146 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: he has like a good like like confluence of that 147 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: like disciplined approach and ability to like put a real like. 148 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: Sting on the ball. 149 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson is. He's like a fun watch right now. 150 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: It's just strange to see him. He seems to be 151 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: like taking different approaches for pitches inside and outside and 152 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: really like trying that. There was a moment that he 153 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: got like really caught away and then had to like 154 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: get back to a pitch in and then got fooled 155 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: on that same pitch away. It was like a weird 156 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: like moment of him like just changing gears and then 157 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: getting caught changing gears and then not changing gears. It 158 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: was like a really just like strange moment. But he 159 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: was really like pressing the picture in that with Blaedet. 160 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: I just gave him a fifty. I'm seeing really try 161 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: to put like a pulse swing on everything. It doesn't 162 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: seem like he needs to. He actually like definitely doesn't. 163 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: He had a good like opposite way double that I watched, 164 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: and it was seemingly out of nowhere. It just wasn't 165 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: like characteristic. But his eye is really good. He's just 166 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: like on the strikes and off the balls. It's certainly 167 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: like a promising skill for that like ongoing development that 168 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: should take him to be like more of I mean, 169 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: he could be more of your like. 170 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: All field slugger. 171 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: It was hard to get a read on Hayes's aguilar 172 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: He was so often pitched around, like getting just all 173 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: these like marginal pitches that were sometimes strike calls, and 174 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: he was getting to a place where he's like almost 175 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: like swinging at any strike, and that's a really like 176 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: just confusing like pinch point there. It seems like it 177 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: seems like maybe he's getting too much like flak from 178 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: pitchers because there aren't other bats in the lineup, like 179 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: other like just like potentially aggressive. 180 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: Sluggers that will. 181 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: Like put a ball out of the park by ambushing it, 182 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: like Cooper can do that, Anderson can maybe do what 183 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: he does. I mean, he can do it, certainly, but 184 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: he's not often aggressive like that, not like to anyone's 185 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: particular strength or weakness there. 186 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: But it's so hard to get a read on Aguila 187 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: right now. 188 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: It seems like he's still like a good hitter and 189 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: he's getting like respect at the plate, but he can 190 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: definitely get like lost. So I gave him a fifty 191 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: along with Lewin, who like seems like he could have 192 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: more intent to hit at the plate. He's definitely not 193 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: or it doesn't seem like he's going up there with 194 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: like a plant in place and like pitches he's looking for. 195 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: It seems like he's mostly like ball strike and often 196 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: getting a bunch of balls. I was watching like righty 197 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: starting pitchers primarily, so that might be a reason for 198 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: their like hesitancy to like pitch him inside or anything 199 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: but like away and down. But it really like seems 200 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: like he might be able to sting it and he's 201 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: definitely able to like stay patient. So it's such like 202 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: a nebulous fifty that I landed on with him. Oh 203 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: and Stallin's I really liked lately. He's really like doing 204 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: that like sort of two swing approach that it seems 205 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: like Anderson's trying to get to with less consistency. 206 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: Not that Anderson's not. 207 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: There, but anyhow, that is all for today's episode of 208 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Big Fish Small Pod. 209 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: Totally gonna be fun. 210 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: To watch this team come together and see like where 211 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: it goes as a lot of these younger bats get 212 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: more time in the majors and the more veteran bats 213 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: get another chance to really turn around. It'll be a 214 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: cool couple of months to close it out in twenty 215 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: twenty two. For the podcast I've Been Andrew Riddall, I'll 216 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: be back with you on Friday. If there's anything else 217 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: that happens in the world of the Marlins, checkout Fish Stripes. 218 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: We'll get you the latest