Speaker 1: What's up, Murph?
Speaker 2: All right, so here he is.
Speaker 3: Time all start, two times silver Slugger from ERNOLCSMVP, the
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Speaker 4: Let's let's talk kidding. KP was excited to bring you
Speaker 4: on for this, Murph.
Speaker 3: So I'm just going to talk about one of the
Speaker 3: buzzier topics here so far, but I'm going to get
Speaker 3: the hitting approach question on it. So the Mets were
Speaker 3: finally able to snap their long losing skid, a team
Speaker 3: that you had, you know, some nice history with. What
Speaker 3: are you seeing from their batters? And the one thing
Speaker 3: that I'll point to is just nice and simple the fastball.
Speaker 3: So I was looking this up before yesterday's game. Okay
Speaker 3: against four seam and two seam going into yesterday three
Speaker 3: twenty five slug percentage against fastballs, with twenty one points
Speaker 3: lower than any other team, nineteen point six percent of
Speaker 3: their misses against heaters. So all those numbers kind of
Speaker 3: worse in the league, while teams like the Dodgers and
Speaker 3: Braves excel there. So your thoughts on what you've seen
Speaker 3: from them, and you know the basics of if teams
Speaker 3: are challenging you and beating you with a fastball, then
Speaker 3: what do you do.
Speaker 2: Man, Maybe go look for a curve, you know, but
Speaker 2: you probably won't get it since they're beating you with fastballs.
Speaker 2: I saw that they're like last in the league and
Speaker 2: they're kind of just getting beat in the zone with fastballs,
Speaker 2: you know, more than the rest of the league is.
Speaker 2: So it's just a it's such a tough spot because
Speaker 2: like the way, I just can speak for myself that
Speaker 2: if I felt like there was an area of the
Speaker 2: plate that you could throw your best punch to in
Speaker 2: the zone and I couldn't get there, then I needed
Speaker 2: to cheat. And so then at the point that I
Speaker 2: have to cheat to your fastball, now I'm susceptible to
Speaker 2: your change up, to your curveball, to your sliders because
Speaker 2: I'm having to sell out and make contact a little
Speaker 2: bit more out front. And so like that's some of it.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering as well too, because I haven't been in
Speaker 2: love with like the Mets batted ball profile, I mean,
Speaker 2: and it's easy to say when they've lost, you know,
Speaker 2: twelve in a row. They won last night, but even
Speaker 2: seeing Sodo get in there, he just shows you a
Speaker 2: little bit how different he is and that he's been
Speaker 2: on the shelf for three weeks. First of that drives
Speaker 2: one to center field. Next to bat hits a bullet
Speaker 2: to the right fielder, walks, and then a base hit
Speaker 2: you know through the three four holder right field like
Speaker 2: one is awesome at playing against the outfielders. I would
Speaker 2: say even more so playing against the right fielder, although
Speaker 2: he is strong enough to play against the left fielder,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, like the left all right, So
Speaker 2: I look at it this way. I got to be
Speaker 2: able to get to second base from home plate, and
Speaker 2: we kind of saw it with the Mets last night.
Speaker 2: Bashett hits a double to lead the game off. He
Speaker 2: ends up touching home plate and scoring. Alvarez drives in
Speaker 2: Lindor with a double. There's just been I know it's
Speaker 2: slug and you could even look at it as homers,
Speaker 2: but it's more like how do I get to second base?
Speaker 2: Because if I can, I need to hit a double
Speaker 2: to score a runner from first. And so watching the Mets,
Speaker 2: it's been strikeouts, pop ups, full ground balls, flies the
Speaker 2: other way, you know what I mean, Like fly balls
Speaker 2: that that that's like you don't like first base in
Speaker 2: my opinion, like that batted ball profile is like you
Speaker 2: just don't love getting on base, and so I think
Speaker 2: of it more like the ball that Van Too's won
Speaker 2: the game with last night. He hits a hand grenade
Speaker 2: the right field, but he gets it over the infielder's heads,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and plays in front of
Speaker 2: the right fielder. So like and my career, the way
Speaker 2: I thought of it is as I moved to the
Speaker 2: left fielder and my bad at ball profile that way
Speaker 2: it needed to be lower, and then I would basically
Speaker 2: what do they call it, kp and cratze. It's almost
Speaker 2: like that telephone wire, and then I would try to
Speaker 2: work that now over the second and first baseman to
Speaker 2: play over the right fielder and right center fielder. And
Speaker 2: so that's, you know the way. And I think they're
Speaker 2: misses right now. I'm seeing they're like they're late to
Speaker 2: the fastball, so they're fouling it off the other way,
Speaker 2: Whereas I would prefer to see you early in the count,
Speaker 2: at least until one strike. If you're trying to hit
Speaker 2: a double, better to play in the pool gap. And
Speaker 2: if you miss, miss high and foul, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, because then you get to hit again, and
Speaker 2: I think you get a better idea of how to
Speaker 2: measure the pitcher, if that makes sense. And so I
Speaker 2: think if it last one, I know I'm talking a lot.
Speaker 2: You guys get me excited about ball. I texted KP
Speaker 2: last night at twelve thirty, so I was like, the
Speaker 2: that's what I say. The Mets can't win the rest
Speaker 2: of them until they win the first one, so they're
Speaker 2: off and running. But like I think of it like
Speaker 2: a par three. If I have water to the left
Speaker 2: and you know, green to the right and rough and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, my miss should be right. So the
Speaker 2: way I thought it was, if I miss this ball,
Speaker 2: if I'm hitting I'm an imperfect person, I want to
Speaker 2: make sure I get it over the infielders heads. There's
Speaker 2: less outfielders and more space to cover, and if I
Speaker 2: really want to do damage, I'm probably going to need
Speaker 2: to play in the right center field gap against the
Speaker 2: right fielder more likely than not, because I'm not a giant.
Speaker 2: It's like giants get to play against the all outfielder,
Speaker 2: you know. And so that's been some of it that
Speaker 2: I've seen. It's like strikeouts, pop ups, pull ground balls,
Speaker 2: and fly balls. The other way is like it's it's
Speaker 2: like that's tough living.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how does the entire organization just be late to
Speaker 5: the fastball? Is there something conversation you see their work
Speaker 5: on the field. And then my second question is what
Speaker 5: have you seen with Bobashet specifically that maybe gives you
Speaker 5: some optimism that he could be turning the corner, because
Speaker 5: up until this point I would put him in a
Speaker 5: handful of who I thought was arguably one of the
Speaker 5: top five best hitters because he can do everything great
Speaker 5: on baseball field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably because the bow win's fresh in my
Speaker 2: mind right now, is that he's just like the rest
Speaker 2: of the club. He struggled to hit a double, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, And so it just it takes
Speaker 2: a lot to hit, you know, three singles to get
Speaker 2: a run. We saw him hit a double last night.
Speaker 2: Now it was low and so that's not the most
Speaker 2: conducive to long term success. I think it's like seven
Speaker 2: percent of ground balls go for extra bases. What I think,
Speaker 2: like you said, that bow excels at is is even
Speaker 2: when he's not slugging, which I think he will he's
Speaker 2: not right now, but when he gets other runners on
Speaker 2: in front of him, he's so accurate and can use
Speaker 2: the whole field. When the defense has to shift around
Speaker 2: to account for the guys on base, it creates more
Speaker 2: holes for him. Like he's probably one of the best
Speaker 2: at being able to hit that three four hole, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. With the runner on first, it
Speaker 2: looked like he was trying to shoot it last night
Speaker 2: and end up skipping it right to the second baseman.
Speaker 2: I've as far as the fastball, like I'll tell you
Speaker 2: kp like I would be trying to hit a draw foul,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I'm gonna get here
Speaker 2: on time. I'm gonna get forward and I'm gonna hook
Speaker 2: this ball high and pull so that I can feel
Speaker 2: where the contact point is. Because I think that if
Speaker 2: I'm willing, if I'm able to get in a position
Speaker 2: to hit a draw, a nice high drawl over the
Speaker 2: right fielder's head for a double or a homer as
Speaker 2: I go to get into contact, if I catch it
Speaker 2: deep in the zone, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 2: late barrel it back of the window contact window, those
Speaker 2: will be the balls that get shot the other way.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Because I'm matching the plane of
Speaker 2: the pitch, so if I catch it deep, I could
Speaker 2: shoot it, but if I catch it out front, you
Speaker 2: kind of like get it up in the air. And
Speaker 2: for me as a lefty, like I wanted to get
Speaker 2: it over the first and second basement. I'd like to
Speaker 2: probably see the Mets take a little bit more shots
Speaker 2: at that open hole as well too, with their life
Speaker 2: tanted hitters, Like that's an advantage that we. I don't
Speaker 2: know how you right handers do it. You guys are
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of the plate. It's it's good
Speaker 2: for you. Never understand how you see David Wright like,
Speaker 2: I just never understand it because like I get to
Speaker 2: like I want that when that hole opens up, you know,
Speaker 2: when Baty gets in there, or even Carson Binge as
Speaker 2: well too, I would be explaining as like, hey, that
Speaker 2: giant holes open up. If you hit that hole high,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a double or a homer, and if
Speaker 2: you happen to miss and hit it low, we can
Speaker 2: go first to third. So that's another one.
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Speaker 7: Marv I, I would appreciate if you would never put
Speaker 7: my name in David Wright's name in the same category,
Speaker 7: because I know exactly I was definitely a left.
Speaker 2: Handed right down there.
Speaker 8: Take some figures, okay.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I gave up David Wright's last double a
Speaker 7: home run on a knuckleball, oh two knuckleball in New Hampshire.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean there's connections, but hitting wise, the
Speaker 7: connections aren't there. I want to go to the Mets
Speaker 7: team though. You were a guy that played a little
Speaker 7: bit of first, some third, a lot of second. When
Speaker 7: I look at some of your stats, you played some
Speaker 7: of your best games, I mean your best seasons you
Speaker 7: played majority second base. You have a Mets infield, a
Speaker 7: Mets team all the way out to Juan Soto who
Speaker 7: are playing different positions. Yesterday I said that could be
Speaker 7: maybe going into a little bit of their offensive funk
Speaker 7: as a team. Do you agree or not agree that
Speaker 7: changing and learning a new position that you haven't ever
Speaker 7: played in Boba Schet, Jorge Polonko, Brett Batty. I'm trying
Speaker 7: to say Viento's barely played first base and that affect
Speaker 7: your offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's. It's it's a lot of responsibility,
Speaker 2: and I think the one it's probably fallen on the
Speaker 2: most would be like Baty, because he's bounced around from
Speaker 2: the outfield and played some first base. Now I think
Speaker 2: that and Brett would I would say, would agree that
Speaker 2: he should and feels like you should be swinging the
Speaker 2: bat better than he is. But it is a lot
Speaker 2: of responsibility to kind of learn a position at the
Speaker 2: big league level. Like I couldn't learn left field at
Speaker 2: the big league level. They kicked me out of there,
Speaker 2: and then other people would question whether or not I
Speaker 2: learned any of the positions on the infield either. That's
Speaker 2: up for debate, but it is difficult to develop that,
Speaker 2: you know, that skill set at the at the major
Speaker 2: league level. You know, with first base, you thought it
Speaker 2: was going to be Poloonco. It doesn't seem like he's
Speaker 2: really been you know, healthy, at least since the kind
Speaker 2: of the start of the season, So you almost wonder
Speaker 2: how much you're going to run him out there since
Speaker 2: he doesn't have those reps. I do think Baity can
Speaker 2: do it. Vi Intos has been okay ish over there,
Speaker 2: and I think that honestly, I'd say Boba Shepp, I
Speaker 2: think he's done well at third, like I think he's
Speaker 2: he looks he looks comfortable over there, and he's enough
Speaker 2: of a veteran player that I don't think it should
Speaker 2: affect his offense maybe as much as it may take
Speaker 2: Brett Beadies and getting used to it's not a position changed.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like Carson Binge has got
Speaker 2: putting a lot of responsibility on his plate. Is a
Speaker 2: rookie you know this season like that, that's a ton
Speaker 2: of responsibility that he's taken on and been given to
Speaker 2: be in the lineup at least against right handed hitters,
Speaker 2: and you know he hopefully is coming out of it.
Speaker 2: I do like that he continues to run when he
Speaker 2: gets on base. I think he's six for six stealing bases,
Speaker 2: and that's like if I'm trying to get to second base,
Speaker 2: a walk in, a stolen base, a single and a
Speaker 2: stolen base. He even hit a fielders choice the other
Speaker 2: night where he stole second and got into scoring position.
Speaker 2: So it does feel like even though the league probably
Speaker 2: he probably feels like it's coming at him fast right now,
Speaker 2: he's still taking his chances to run and do what
Speaker 2: he can. And he's been defending as well too. But
Speaker 2: you know, all that to say, I think that Brett
Speaker 2: Batty has been the one who's been given the most
Speaker 2: responsibility with how he's been bouncing around almost in that
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil role that they had last year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we know how much Kevin Long means to you.
Speaker 5: And we were just kind of discussing the Phillies struggles,
Speaker 5: like kind of take us into your relationship with Kevin
Speaker 5: Long and how.
Speaker 8: You what do you see?
Speaker 5: Do you see the Phillies getting out of this or
Speaker 5: do you see this as a scenario where he's been
Speaker 5: around the same people too long and maybe a change
Speaker 5: needs to be made.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have it.
Speaker 2: I talked to keV a little bit and I'll shoot
Speaker 2: him text and I haven't quite got to follow the
Speaker 2: Phillies as closely. I did see them, I'll probably I
Speaker 2: did see them the other day when they played Atlanta,
Speaker 2: and I'll do a quick Atlanta looks formidable. And the
Speaker 2: reason I'll say that is they've starting pitched well and
Speaker 2: been able to hold up as some guys coming back
Speaker 2: from injury. Their offense looks to be, you know, back
Speaker 2: and healthy. And then I when I saw him play Philly,
Speaker 2: Bryce was in there as the go ahead run I
Speaker 2: think his third of that, and then his fourth played appearance,
Speaker 2: he was the tie in run and Atlanta was able
Speaker 2: to run two left handers at him. They went bummer
Speaker 2: and then Lee if I'm not mistaken, And I was like,
Speaker 2: as soon as I saw that, I go, well, that's
Speaker 2: that's postseason ball. Like this Atlanta club. They can score,
Speaker 2: they can stop runs, and they can get the platoon
Speaker 2: matchup with the other team's best player in the lineup,
Speaker 2: and so like Atlanta can go. And then I think
Speaker 2: I heard Scott talk about the left handed pitching that
Speaker 2: they've struggled against, and that's that's where like you know,
Speaker 2: Alec Bohme and Triple Tray, which out of Trey hasn't
Speaker 2: had you know, a poor start of the year, but
Speaker 2: you know it will be more difficult for Kyle and Bryce.
Speaker 2: They're not as productive against left handed pitching, which they're
Speaker 2: gonna get theirs. But if the other and the right
Speaker 2: handers can kind of set the table for them, put
Speaker 2: the pitcher in, you know, less favorable positions, opening up
Speaker 2: poles on the defense, I think that'll help. But a
Speaker 2: little bit more Honestly, I haven't watched them quite as
Speaker 2: closely as I have as I have the Mets.
Speaker 7: All right, So what is kay Long saying in situations
Speaker 7: like this is what is he Yeah, there's certain like
Speaker 7: tweaks that guys make, but going through slumps like this,
Speaker 7: this is a guy who's won one with the Yankees,
Speaker 7: he won with the Nats. He's just like he's gone places.
Speaker 7: And to me, he's one of the best hitting coaches
Speaker 7: that I've never had from what I've heard from guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I know what I would say
Speaker 2: to him. And most of the stuff I have is
Speaker 2: stolen from Kevin Long and other people, which is when
Speaker 2: you're going sideways like this, watch the scoreboard. Pay attention
Speaker 2: to the scoreboard. It's going to let you know what
Speaker 2: you need to do, and it can really take a
Speaker 2: lot of stress off of you. If you've got a
Speaker 2: runner on second base with nobody out, the name of
Speaker 2: the game is he has to be touching third base
Speaker 2: at the end of this at bat, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, at the least, and if he's not, it's
Speaker 2: because you died trying, all right. So if you're afraid
Speaker 2: that you're a guy that's going to strike out, then
Speaker 2: maybe before you get to two strikes and the picture
Speaker 2: puts his weapon on you for the swing and miss,
Speaker 2: you take a one strike swing to move him over
Speaker 2: and make sure and hopefully you take a good enough
Speaker 2: swing to get him over and in. But he's got
Speaker 2: to get to third base. And it's the same idea
Speaker 2: with the runner on third in less than two outs.
Speaker 2: If you're leading an inning off and the picture has
Speaker 2: been struggling to get strikes one or you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, or getting deep in the counts and not
Speaker 2: as accurate today, maybe you take a strike, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like the scoreboard will take a
Speaker 2: massive amount of stress off of the hitter and the
Speaker 2: players because it tells us what we need to do.
Speaker 2: If it's the bottom of the eighth inning and the
Speaker 2: time runs on first base and I'm up to bet,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hit a double, so I then where
Speaker 2: are my doubles? I'm not strong like you Cratzy. I
Speaker 2: don't have doubles in left center field. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't go there. My double's going to be down the
Speaker 2: right field line, and I've also got that hole open.
Speaker 2: Now Am I better suited right now? In this position?
Speaker 2: Do I feel better about picking a fastball to hit
Speaker 2: a double or breaking ball to hit a double? It
Speaker 2: depends on the hitter. Like if you think you got
Speaker 2: a better chance of hitting a breaking ball for a double,
Speaker 2: go look for a breaking ball. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If you think it's a fastball, go look for a fastball.
Speaker 2: If you miss early in the count, you know, to
Speaker 2: get one strike, miss high and foul because I get
Speaker 2: to hit again. And so I think the scoreboard and
Speaker 2: the situation of the game, if you could just get
Speaker 2: intimately involved in an into that, it'll take all the
Speaker 2: stress and the decision making, honestly a lot of it
Speaker 2: out of your hands. And just like, what am I
Speaker 2: going to do in this situation? What is the game
Speaker 2: asking me to do?
Speaker 5: Merph We all know how difficult it could be to
Speaker 5: play in New York, and there's no secret they lost
Speaker 5: twelve in a row. Does it help a little bit
Speaker 5: that the Phillies haven't been any good? Does it take
Speaker 5: a little pressure off them? Or bands are still ready
Speaker 5: to write?
Speaker 2: I think that it's been good for Philly that the
Speaker 2: Mets haven't played so well, because I didn't, you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was seven in a row until yesterday.
Speaker 2: I think I was watching FT and then they lost
Speaker 2: again last night, and.
Speaker 9: So I think it's good that nobody looks to be
Speaker 9: not multiple teams are kind of running away with the
Speaker 9: division or extending that lead.
Speaker 2: It's just it's been Atlanta so far. At the same time,
Speaker 2: you got to get to win in some ball games,
Speaker 2: and so the Mets won one last night and they'll
Speaker 2: get a chance to win a series this evening. But
Speaker 2: you know, when you go and lose for two weeks straight,
Speaker 2: like that kind of belongs to you now, like that
Speaker 2: is like, that's that's that's stick to your soul, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like lose twelve straight ball games.
Speaker 2: But the beauty of our game is you have an
Speaker 2: opportunity if to go, you know, you won a ball
Speaker 2: game last night, and then I think you got to
Speaker 2: try to change kind of the equation or how you're
Speaker 2: thinking about it today. Isn't you know, let's you know,
Speaker 2: let's win, let's go what you know twelve? You know,
Speaker 2: two and twelve, it's can we win a series? Can
Speaker 2: we win a series? And Minnesota gets out of here
Speaker 2: and then we bring in the Rockies and then the
Speaker 2: Nats come in, which I'm heading up to do the
Speaker 2: Nats series at the end of this home stand, so
Speaker 2: I've been trying to follow them pretty closely because this
Speaker 2: is this is like this is the season in my opinion,
Speaker 2: and I kind of equated it to this. I got
Speaker 2: my Jaguars head on is like I think it was
Speaker 2: two years ago the Jaguars went to play Buffalo on
Speaker 2: a Monday night game. We were like one in three.
Speaker 2: I think it was like it felt like one of
Speaker 2: those must win games, and we went there and got
Speaker 2: our teeth kicked in by Josh Allen, like just beat us.
Speaker 2: We didn't even make it the second quarter. But the
Speaker 2: rest of the season we played okay ish, you know,
Speaker 2: middle of the pack. So when you got to the
Speaker 2: of the year, is like the defensive stats looked okay,
Speaker 2: the offensive stats looked okay. But when you look at
Speaker 2: the season, in my opinion, when it was when the
Speaker 2: moments were really there, you didn't make the plays and
Speaker 2: so the season was over in the first you know,
Speaker 2: quarter of it. And so right now, if you're the Mets,
Speaker 2: you don't you don't want to let this keep going.
Speaker 2: You want to try to build some momentum off of
Speaker 2: last night because these are the moments right now, which
Speaker 2: really stinks that you know, Lindor went loud last night,
Speaker 2: like that's that's that's tough.
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Speaker 8: I'm gonna hit.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna hit something that's going really well. And you
Speaker 7: were done in the big leagues at thirty four, thirty five.
Speaker 2: Thirty five, But I did go back and play in
Speaker 2: the bushes at thirty eight. Don't forget you.
Speaker 8: You joined me in Triple A. You tried, you tried.
Speaker 8: I get that my thing.
Speaker 2: Independent league first.
Speaker 8: Dude, that's that's the real bushes. That's a real bush.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you were you were grinding. The kids
Speaker 7: were young, the kids were young. It was it was
Speaker 7: time to take a break. You needed, you need to
Speaker 7: be a way for naps. But my question is Mike
Speaker 7: Trout what he's doing out in LA. Do you feel
Speaker 7: like it's a blip on the radar? But you can't
Speaker 7: explain this in without using You can't say the word
Speaker 7: injury in any of your explanation of what Mike Trout
Speaker 7: is going to do the rest of the year. Because
Speaker 7: you watch baseball, you see you know the highlights of
Speaker 7: his swings. Do you think it's a resurgence or do
Speaker 7: you think this is what Mike Trout's going to be
Speaker 7: able to do for X amount of years going forward.
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna I'm gonna skirt your question
Speaker 2: and not say injury, but I'm gonna kind of when
Speaker 2: Mike is available, he's productive, full stop, like he's Roger Hornsby.
Speaker 2: I look at his ops plus for his career is
Speaker 2: like one seventy, Like that's Roger Hornsby territory. And we
Speaker 2: don't see stuff like that. So when Mike is available,
Speaker 2: he's productive, he looks, he looks great, like he just
Speaker 2: he he looks great to me. And he's always walked,
Speaker 2: which I have, I hopefully a healthy envy of people
Speaker 2: who can walk, because I never could do it. I
Speaker 2: just didn't have it in me. And so I think
Speaker 2: that raises his floor so much because he's always going
Speaker 2: to have that ability to get the first base, which
Speaker 2: like David Wright was able to. I watched him, like
Speaker 2: David would go out there and I would know he
Speaker 2: wouldn't be feeling great, but he'd go one for three
Speaker 2: with a double in a walk and touch home played
Speaker 2: at least once, you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 2: I don't I'm out here, I don't walk at all.
Speaker 2: I got to get two hits a night to survive.
Speaker 2: That's like, you can't, that's you don't. You can't live
Speaker 2: that way. It's hard, that's hard to live that way.
Speaker 2: And so, yeah, Mike has been He's I love tuning
Speaker 2: into him. He's one of my absolute favorites to watch.
Speaker 2: I mean him Sodo Aaron Judge, like, these guys are
Speaker 2: a special show. Hey, special players.
Speaker 8: You're on You're on a show with two other dudes
Speaker 8: that didn't walk either. So yeah, good, you're a good company.
Speaker 2: We were just a suggestion.
Speaker 7: Yeah, secrets, our secrets here, our secrets, save our secrets.
Speaker 7: Safe you're swinging is a safe, safe place to be.
Speaker 7: You just mentioned him. A lot's been brought up about
Speaker 7: the Otani rule. Do you feel like it's fair that
Speaker 7: the Dodgers get an extra pitcher based on the fact
Speaker 7: that Otani's rule is not really eligible?
Speaker 8: Nobody's really nobody else. Nobody else can do this.
Speaker 7: You have it, nobody can do nobody can do it
Speaker 7: at his level, but nobody can even qualify, So essentially
Speaker 7: it is only the rules.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a nice bit of a cheat code
Speaker 2: to be able to carry the extra pitcher, and it
Speaker 2: makes the cheat code because show. He goes out there
Speaker 2: with he goes six shutout innings last night, Like, this
Speaker 2: guy's in a tree. It's unreal. This guy is in
Speaker 2: a tree. I was, what do you I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: asking a question with a question. I'm I'm more maybe
Speaker 2: upset or would want to have a talk about when
Speaker 2: he pitches and comes out of the game. I think
Speaker 2: he should come out of the DH spot as well too.
Speaker 2: I don't think you should get to stay in the game.
Speaker 8: See, I'm that's.
Speaker 2: I would probably take them both, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I think it Like listening to Craig Council, I thought
Speaker 2: he made a reasonable argument. It was interesting. D Rs.
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts response was just like a little bit of
Speaker 2: boo boo. But hey, when you're the world chance two
Speaker 2: times you get to you get to pick right and
Speaker 2: then and the Dodgers and Andrew Friedman the way they
Speaker 2: handle show, hey and use that to their advantage. They're
Speaker 2: only they're playing by the rules that are set for
Speaker 2: everyone else, and so it doesn't bother me. I do
Speaker 2: think that it's Craig is like, is there a discussion
Speaker 2: that needs to be had here? I but I think
Speaker 2: that when he comes out of the game pitching. I
Speaker 2: think he should come out of that. He shouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to continue to d H And then I'd probably
Speaker 2: say I'm probably closer to Leana with counsel that he
Speaker 2: he should count as a pitcher.
Speaker 5: Murph, you've checked out more comedy at.
Speaker 2: All and homers every night see up to five.
Speaker 5: He's also touching first base. I think he's got twenty
Speaker 5: four walks on the year.
Speaker 2: What's his punch, Sorry, I'm putting you on there a lot.
Speaker 8: It's like thirty thirty eight for it. There's a lot
Speaker 8: a punch in the game too.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty swing for some of them.
Speaker 5: But there was talks about him coming over and maybe
Speaker 5: not getting the money. Everyone thought he They were trying
Speaker 5: to predict that he couldn't catch up to the major
Speaker 5: league fastball. I think he's proven a lot of people
Speaker 5: wrong right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're gonna slug like this and walk that.
Speaker 2: Just the walk. The walk is a single, you know,
Speaker 2: the walk to me is a single. So if you're
Speaker 2: able to do it, I think as he learns the
Speaker 2: league and understands it, and also he's got this guys,
Speaker 2: hopefully he starts pulling that strikeout rate down a little
Speaker 2: bit because I think of it this way. Each each
Speaker 2: time you're able to put the ball and play, we
Speaker 2: see what you do with it, you know, And so
Speaker 2: the more opportunities you give yourself a chance to do it,
Speaker 2: maybe it's not a home run every time, maybe it's
Speaker 2: a double, or maybe it's just a bullet to drive
Speaker 2: someone in. And I haven't watched him closely enough, but
Speaker 2: hopefully he's changing his coach with the situation because a
Speaker 2: runner on second with two outs, I'm more likely to
Speaker 2: try to hit one low the other way? Does that
Speaker 2: make sense? Especially if I get to two strikes, Like
Speaker 2: my bailout is going to be shooting through the five
Speaker 2: to six soul because there's only going to be one
Speaker 2: defender over there in the modern game, because they're going
Speaker 2: to be playing shortstop up the middle, first and second
Speaker 2: basement are going to be playing to take away the
Speaker 2: pool ground ball. So if I'm gonna miss low, I
Speaker 2: got to miss the other way in order in order
Speaker 2: to have success long term. You know, runner on first again,
Speaker 2: you could take your shot to hit a double. So
Speaker 2: I would say, what this success he's having, he's probably
Speaker 2: his approach is hopefully changing with the situation.
Speaker 8: Where's that line?
Speaker 7: Where's that line between dingers and strikeouts and not as
Speaker 7: many dingers and less strikeouts.
Speaker 8: Where's that line?
Speaker 9: What is that?
Speaker 2: It's a situation like it like we're down three and
Speaker 2: I got two guys on I'm taking a shot at
Speaker 2: least one, probably take two. If I don't think that
Speaker 2: you can strike me out, I'll take some version of
Speaker 2: three shots at it. At least it hit a double,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: If you got a weapon for me with two strikes,
Speaker 2: then I'll give something up. If we get that far
Speaker 2: and work a little lower the other way and kind
Speaker 2: of over the second basement's head to the pool side.
Speaker 2: But first and second, no strikes and one strike. If
Speaker 2: I'm the tying run like later, I'm trying to touch
Speaker 2: them all and if I happen to not too hopefully
Speaker 2: it's a double. And if I do miss, I can
Speaker 2: always miss foul love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good stuff, you know me. I'm just sitting
Speaker 3: learning about hitting here with these three.
Speaker 2: This is good.
Speaker 4: Murphy're the mat really.
Speaker 8: One of us, one of us, one of us was
Speaker 8: a good hitter on here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you guys ask me questions about it. I
Speaker 4: like to hear your questions.
Speaker 2: Kathpk new was up. I was those I was looking
Speaker 2: I love finger, I was looking at bumpy stole. What
Speaker 2: twenty five bags in fifteen? Like we got to get
Speaker 2: to second base? Christy Maddy he syonce said, it's the
Speaker 2: most important ninety feet in baseball. You can feel in
Speaker 2: a game when a runner gets in scoring position, Cratsey
Speaker 2: is the catcher. The whole thing changes the way you
Speaker 2: call the game. Like you because one base hit to
Speaker 2: score a run is different than having to hit a double,
Speaker 2: and so it's just completely different. So if you can
Speaker 2: figure out how to get to second base, you could
Speaker 2: play this game for a while. I didn't run a ton.
Speaker 2: I ran a little bit one year. I was able
Speaker 2: for a bit to hit a double. And then as
Speaker 2: I was hopefully learning the league and hitting enough doubles
Speaker 2: to get more at bats, I run into Kevin Long
Speaker 2: and Pat rosslers like, hey, why don't you try to
Speaker 2: hit a home at a right center. I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, that sounds like fun. And I happened to
Speaker 2: crack one or two, you know, early in it, and
Speaker 2: have some success, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: it's way more fun to play against the right fielder
Speaker 2: than it is a short stuff. I kind of dig
Speaker 2: this action. I'm gonna start doing this more. I'lmost see
Speaker 2: if I could play against the right fielder instead of
Speaker 2: the third baseman. Yeah, it worked.
Speaker 4: I mean the one other quick example on this stolen
Speaker 4: base front.
Speaker 3: I mean, no one thought of Juan Soto as a
Speaker 3: Steed speed demon, and then last year he's walking and
Speaker 3: it's like, cool, that's a double.
Speaker 2: That's a double.
Speaker 4: That's double.
Speaker 3: Happened many many times, surprisingly, which which was cool. I
Speaker 3: like the way he added that speed component to his game.
Speaker 3: We'll see if he does it now coming off the
Speaker 3: calf injury.
Speaker 4: Murphy' the man. Great catching up, dude. We always love
Speaker 4: having you on y'all.
Speaker 2: Thank you, fellows, good ball talk y'all. Got a buck show.
Speaker 2: Walter coming on too. He's a tree. Yeah, and Pat
Speaker 2: two and Pat.
Speaker 3: This is an episode that Murph will go besides the
Speaker 3: Murph Park because he was just on it. You're he's
Speaker 3: listening later in the car, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Bird, your loins get him with Jonathan Jacksonville Florida as
Speaker 2: well too. He's a nine oh four fellow, not even
Speaker 2: he's not live here now, but have a blast.
Speaker 8: We got he's in a sip. He's in the simp.
Speaker 7: Jacksonville now, Jacksonville Jaguar fans, everybody out there. Murph did
Speaker 7: not play one snap, even though he said we lost
Speaker 7: to Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: We not play ticket holders.
Speaker 2: So what you're talking about, you go watch out. I'm
Speaker 2: n d up running on the field. Crats he making
Speaker 2: a tackle. You're not careful. This is we nine oh
Speaker 2: four is in the bloodstream. At your age, you would break.
Speaker 2: I am sorry, I would break. You have to shovel
Speaker 2: me off. They had to shovel me off of Albuquerque.
Speaker 2: They'd definitely have to shove me off of football field. Murp,
Speaker 2: thank you dude. Yeah, stay healthy for us. Please all right, Kellys,
Speaker 2: I'm go. And that was a treat.