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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.

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Speaker 2: And what it's like to be siblings. We are a

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Speaker 2: sibling railvalry.

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Speaker 3: No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth.

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Speaker 1: Revelry.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: This's Oliver Hudson and welcome to another episode of a

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Speaker 2: Sibling Revelry where there is no sibling. In this episode,

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Speaker 2: I have a fill in because my sister, Kate Hudson

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Speaker 2: is working, so I'd like everyone to welcome to the stage,

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Speaker 2: Miss Aaron Hudson.

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Speaker 3: Thanks babe for the intro.

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Speaker 2: We had a podcast called Unconsciously Coupled for a while.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't making any money, so I dropped it and

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Speaker 2: it caused a big fight and he's like, this is

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Speaker 2: all about money, and I said, yeah it is. It

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Speaker 2: is all about money, and I can't waste my time

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Speaker 2: with you while I've got money to be made.

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Speaker 3: You know, got it?

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Speaker 4: Great?

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Speaker 2: Good to know, thanks babe, But very excited to have

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Speaker 2: my beautiful wife filling in. I have a surprise guest

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Speaker 2: for her coming up. Yeah, so we have Body Miller

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Speaker 2: and his amazing wife Morgan on Morgan Beck and very

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Speaker 2: excited to talk to them. I've known body for many,

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Speaker 2: many years now. We figured it would be best to

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Speaker 2: bring on sort of a couple, maybe not talk about siblings,

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Speaker 2: maybe talk about siblings, but just the ins and the

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Speaker 2: outs of having a relationship for as long as they

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Speaker 2: have dealing with tragedy as they have coming out the

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Speaker 2: other side, like they have parenting relationships. Living in a

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Speaker 2: mountain town, two Olympians, they're just uh seemingly on.

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Speaker 5: Paper, are pretty a pretty powerful couple, And yet we

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Speaker 5: did we I have met them both as well, and

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Speaker 5: I remember walking away just in awe at how down

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Speaker 5: to earth, cool, relatable, ridiculously gorgeous both of them were.

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Speaker 3: But it was such a pleasant surprise, and they were

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Speaker 3: just so real.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun to talk to them. All right, Well,

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Speaker 2: let's bring on Bodie and Morgan.

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Speaker 6: High High High.

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Speaker 2: What's everybody?

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Speaker 6: Oh sweet forever?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, c wait.

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Speaker 2: A minute, are you guys? Are you in the same house,

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Speaker 2: separate places?

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Speaker 1: He's upstairs and I'm down here.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, It's just easier that way. I take it.

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Speaker 1: No, he's traveling right now, and we actually moved back

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Speaker 1: to California.

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Speaker 2: Still you did not hi aater?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Hey, yay for us?

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute. For first of all, it's his preface

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Speaker 2: is same. I've known body for a long ass time.

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Speaker 2: We've played a bunch of golf together, we've had a

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Speaker 2: few cocktails together a few times ten and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: we just hit it off. And Morgan we've known now

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Speaker 2: for a long long time, and they're the most amazing

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Speaker 2: sort of power couple. Been through the shit, come out

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Speaker 2: the other side, getting the shit, come out of the ship.

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Speaker 2: That's what we do. They moved to Big Sky, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, we're going to be there March twenty third.

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Speaker 2: So of course now you guys are gone, right.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, you have to come back, was literally thinking.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, I was.

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Speaker 2: So jealous of the move because living in the mountain

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Speaker 2: town is just so amazing. We took the kids to

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Speaker 2: the into the mountains and away from the cities. Right, So, now,

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Speaker 2: what the hell are you doing? How come you're moving back?

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Speaker 4: Well, I am.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny because before we started, we were chatting

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Speaker 3: for a minute and I was like, God, they're living

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Speaker 3: they're going to be by Uh but yeah, something in there.

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Speaker 2: But what happened that.

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Speaker 7: Was the cold and dark, long winters did not affect her.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I asare you.

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Speaker 7: She tough it out. She toughed it out for those

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Speaker 7: four years, and I think it was awesome for the kids.

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Speaker 7: But also some other changes we're going. I'll let Morgan

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Speaker 7: fill you guys in on some of her No, no,

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Speaker 7: it's your deal, but some some natural points. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 7: our eleven year old is super into into football, and

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Speaker 7: you know that there's great parts about Montana that I

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Speaker 7: think all our kids will benefit from as they grow up.

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Speaker 4: But there was there's just a bit.

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Speaker 7: More, I guess, uh natural fit for where our family's

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Speaker 4: And it won't be long. It sounds like if Morgan

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Speaker 4: will share her her upcoming challenges.

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Speaker 6: I'm going back to play volleyball professionally.

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Speaker 3: What the front door? Yes, so balance.

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Speaker 1: No, So going back to indo her, It's a really

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Speaker 1: cool opportunity that came up. And I mean we've been

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Speaker 1: friends forever, so you know, I have been momming for

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Speaker 1: a really long time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I was on Instagram one day and lindsay Von

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Speaker 6: In the new volleyball league, and I followed nothing volleyball.

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Speaker 1: So I started going down the rabbit hole and I

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Speaker 1: of my old coaches from the national team, and one

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Speaker 1: of the founding athletes is one of my old teammates

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Speaker 1: from the national team and college.

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Speaker 6: So I reached out to Well.

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Speaker 1: First I called Body and I was like, hey, I

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Speaker 6: What do you think? Hell yes, not what I expected.

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Speaker 1: And then I call it Tom and Carly and same thing.

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Speaker 1: They're like, hell yeah. So I've been training for like

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Speaker 1: four months. I got surgery four weeks ago. We moved

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be cool too. They get to see

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Speaker 1: that mom kicks ass. She doesn't do just white ass.

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Speaker 3: Well, said, and we'll played good for you guys. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I feel like being able to be spontaneous and take

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Speaker 3: what comes out of it. And it sounds like you'll

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's an amazing thing sort of, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, especially when you have kids who have only

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Speaker 2: you know, it's funny. Aaron and I have these conversations.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: She was an actress in a model and she did

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Speaker 2: you know. But we've she's expressed sort of her insecurity

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Speaker 2: you know, and when that I guess when that when that,

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Speaker 2: when that itch becomes you know, almost you have to

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Speaker 3: But I will say acting and competing in a sport

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Speaker 3: are quite different and.

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Speaker 7: Scary fast factor, the emotional and the psychological is exactly

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Speaker 4: It's no different. Right, you were skilled, you had your

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Speaker 7: I mean in a lot of ways, what Morgan's doing

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Speaker 7: is is, you know, is scary for me just because

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Speaker 7: of the physical demands. Right acting, sure, there's like a

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Speaker 7: look and there's but you have the skill set and

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Speaker 7: there's always roles for people who have that amazing skill set.

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Speaker 7: Whereas you know, normally it's one direction. As an athlete,

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Speaker 7: you kind of you do some ass kicking. You start,

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Speaker 7: then you're like, okay, now it's time to present. Like

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Speaker 7: I could keep kicking ass, but not even put myself

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Speaker 7: out there, right, And that's that's the natural progression.

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Speaker 4: It's really cool.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, granted, you know, and I'll spend

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Speaker 7: the second pumping Morgan Sizer. She's she's such a gifted athlete,

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't do it right like I could. I don't

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Speaker 7: I could, I could do certain parts of it, But

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Speaker 7: I just was I had to work so hard just

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Speaker 7: whereas Morgan is is kind of the specimen. She's the

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Speaker 7: optimal sort of size and athleticism for her sport, and

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Speaker 7: don't think you'd find too many people who are like, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a challenge, and I want to

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Speaker 7: Up against that because I you know, I didn't really

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Speaker 7: She's more mature now and has all this, you know,

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Speaker 7: like you said, we've been through the shit, and I

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Speaker 7: think all those things, those life lessons can be applied really,

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Speaker 7: you know, in a positive way to any sport, any

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Speaker 7: team environment, and I'm un psyched to see her her

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Speaker 7: bring the noise on.

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Speaker 4: People keep going to me, I'm loving this.

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Speaker 2: Do you still have the hops? Can you still get up?

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Speaker 4: Not yet right now? No. I've only seen her leave

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Speaker 7: Both of them are as she was launching herself onto

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Speaker 2: So once this opportunity came to you, Morgan, meaning through

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Speaker 2: Lindsay you saw it on Instagram, it sparked something prior

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Speaker 2: to that. Were you feeling a desire or an itch

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Speaker 2: to get back into the game somehow or was this

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Speaker 2: just a complete impulsive, spontaneous thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think it's similar to Aaron.

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Speaker 1: You know, you want to be a mom and you

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Speaker 1: start doing that and it's great, but at some point

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Speaker 6: And you then start wondering like, well, what am I

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Speaker 1: I did a bunch of golf clinics over the summer

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Speaker 1: with a lot of older women whose kids just left,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, I don't know what to do

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Speaker 1: with my life. I don't know who I am I

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Speaker 1: don't like identity crisis completely, and I said, you should

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Speaker 6: So I'm kind of thinking to myself for a while,

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Speaker 4: Go, what do I do?

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Speaker 6: What inspires me? What is it that like I want

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Speaker 7: Times and then you know, you develop skills through those

441
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 7: challenging times. And that was you know, it's great to

442
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 7: see Morgan, you know, come out of it because there's

443
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 7: times where I was like, oh shit.

444
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 4: Man, I don't know, she might do I burn.

445
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 7: Our house down, orly you know, because it's just like

446
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 7: when you're in that, when you're in those moments, it's

447
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 7: friggin tough.

448
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 4: I've I've been in them myself, and it's like.

449
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 7: You know, you want to just get out, but a

450
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 7: lot of times that's not really the answer. The answer

451
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 7: comes like when it's the right time to get out.

452
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 7: And that's what I think we did. So I'm looking

453
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 7: back on you go.

454
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 2: Did you guys have did you guys have a moment

455
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: where it was like we're not going to make it, uh,

456
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, our relationship, meaning like I'm going to do

457
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: my best, but I said, I don't know if this

458
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: is going to fucking happen anymore.

459
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 7: Morgan has those I would say, I don't have them.

460
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 7: I'm a I'm a I'm a very steady grinder.

461
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 4: It's it's one of them. It's really my only.

462
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 7: My only real strength is that my I have really

463
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 7: good long game, like my brain works well that way,

464
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 7: and I have very good discipline and focus on that,

465
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 7: and like my top priority has been Morgan and the kids.

466
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 7: Everything else is kind of just like there, and I

467
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 7: put energy into it when I can.

468
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 4: But definitely we have.

469
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 6: I mean, that's not totally true.

470
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: Like when we hit twenty twenty four and a friend

471
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: of ours apt and like, what was your high and

472
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: what was your low of twenty twenty three? And he

473
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: into tears and you did say You're like, I didn't

474
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,959
Speaker 1: know if we were going to make it or not

475
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: through twenty twenty three, Like that was.

476
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 6: Like a feeling, And.

477
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

478
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 6: I have my moments.

479
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: And we had some communication breakdowns and some uh just

480
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: some things along the way that kind of affected trust

481
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: for period of time.

482
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 6: And twenty twenty three was brutal.

483
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: Dude, I trust me. We've been together for twenty three years.

484
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: We've been through the fucking ringer. There's been infidelity, there

485
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: has been all kinds of shit that we have worked through,

486
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: and you know, we couldn't be stronger for it. And

487
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: not to say that everything's perfect, It never is, you know,

488
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 2: but you know that you can get through things. You know,

489
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: obviously you guys have faced a lot of adversity in

490
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: your relationship and in your family life. But I think

491
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: that couples now are too quick to just call it

492
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: fucking quit if something goes wrong that you don't agree with,

493
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm out of here, you know, I like that idea

494
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: of the long game, if there's something solid there, if

495
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: there's love there, if she recognized something that you know, well,

496
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: of course you want to be impulsive, but I think

497
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: she saw something bigger, you know, to where it's wait

498
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: a minute, I know this hurts, but let's take a

499
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: step back and look at the big picture here.

500
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah.

501
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: Also resilience, you know, I think those words you were

502
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: kind of throwing out there is like resilience came to

503
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: mind where, you know, even with our kids today, whatever

504
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: it is, I'm like, there's something about the grit and

505
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: the grind and the fight, the coming out on the

506
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: other side of stuff. A little big, whatever it might be,

507
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: just can make you feel closer. I feel like it's growth,

508
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: you know, which is so important for your kids to see,

509
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 3: and relationships. When you're in it for the long haul,

510
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: you're going to be evolving. And I think a lot

511
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: of times you hear about, you know, people breaking up

512
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: or divorce and it's like we grew apart, we changed.

513
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: Those are That's true. I mean, people do change, especially

514
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: as you evolve or get older. But it's like, all right,

515
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: can we kind of give and take or you know,

516
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: leave space for what's going on over here or what

517
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: we've been through, you know, kind of give the other

518
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: person the stage or you know, not I always I've

519
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: said this before, but there's a great quote I read

520
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: in an interview once about this couple and they've been

521
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: together for you know, celebrating sixty five years of marriage,

522
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: and the daughter asked, how, why did you guys never

523
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: get divorced or how and they said, we never wanted

524
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: to get divorced at the same time, And I always

525
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: thought that was such a great quote, because you know

526
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: what I mean, I think sometimes that does happen, and look,

527
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 3: you know it can go that way. But I feel

528
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 3: like you guys, what I've loved and just you know,

529
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: envied along the way is you started your relationship not

530
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: you know, this picture perfect you know story of you

531
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: knows an eight e Z road, right, I mean it's nutty, right,

532
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: I mean, but to me, I'm like, there's such beauty

533
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: in kind of these two, you know, just incredible, just

534
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: next level if I'm.

535
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: Wrong, Right, you guys got together with Bodie like you

536
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: already you had a kid on the way, right from

537
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: someone else.

538
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the very beginning.

539
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, Nate was Sarah was pregnant with Nate when basically

540
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 7: like within two weeks when we met, she told me

541
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 7: she had been right before I met Morgan and and

542
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 7: just to touch on it, I said that to Morgan

543
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 7: in the beginning, like over the first few years, I

544
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 7: was like, it takes two nuclear keys to launch nuclear weapons,

545
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 7: which is the same as a divorce in my mind.

546
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 4: Like, so I'm like, her key is on. It's just

547
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: she just leaves it in there and is on.

548
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 7: And I think she's growing. I think she's growing through that. Honestly,

549
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 7: I've seen it.

550
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 4: But I took my key and did the pull on

551
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: like old lady and tight, I like went off. The

552
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: back of the boat was.

553
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 7: Somewhere down in the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.

554
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: So therefore we've made it through stuff.

555
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: It's very telling, like the way that our relationship started.

556
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 6: It was a month into our relationship and he bought

557
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 6: my ring, my engagement ring in front of me. He said,

558
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 6: what would you say if I asked you to marry me?

559
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 6: And I was like, no, absolutely not. He said, that's okay.

560
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 6: I have a two pronged approach. Well, I get you

561
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 6: to marry me, and I know that way. Ever, since

562
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 6: we're I'm still like, it's this cushion pull for me. Yeah,

563
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 6: for him, it is like I am here, i am steady,

564
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: I am.

565
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: Rock, and I'm not pulling, which was amazing.

566
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: That's pretty that's it's an amazing dynamic, you know. But

567
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: but Morgan, you know, not to get too like.

568
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: I was the body and he was.

569
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: Sure. I was like, I'm good.

570
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm fucking crazy. I don't know.

571
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: My dad left when I was a kreh the fuck

572
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: I am. And I've got issues and have anxiety and

573
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: you know, I mean like yeah, and Aaron's just sitting

574
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: there like now I'm cool. I'm cool. Like you know,

575
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: you go through your ship and all your here to

576
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: supports you for the most part.

577
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes, but I feel like there's a reason

578
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: you're together because or not together. But the reason it

579
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: works right because we're very similar, i would say, in

580
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: certain ways, but very different in others, and those differences

581
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: balance in the right way, you know what I'm saying. Like,

582
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: whereas some relationships it's just not gonna work. But are

583
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 3: the things that attract us, you know, are so strong

584
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: obviously have to be stronger than the things that don't.

585
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: But the few things that don't, you know, they work

586
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: for some reason in the right way. So whether it's.

587
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 7: Times a lot of times that's that's the buttons that

588
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 7: need to be or the knobs that need to be

589
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 7: turned in the other person, right, The things that are different,

590
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 7: the things that frustrate you or cause you sort of

591
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 7: that like you know, anger or whatever, are in the

592
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 7: other person the knobs that need to be turned and

593
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 7: in yourself. Right, so your talents increases and you kind

594
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 7: of meet in the middle on the things that I mean,

595
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 7: I've noticed that with Morgan, like you know, a lot

596
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 7: of the stuff that is tough for me to manage

597
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 7: with her are things that are very clearly in hindsight, right,

598
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 7: we're up on twelve years pretty soon, there are the

599
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 7: things that I would have if you objectively looked at myself,

600
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: I reflected on myself, like, those are the things I

601
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 7: would have wanted to improve, that I would have wanted

602
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 7: to get better at. And it's forced in this case

603
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 7: because those are the things that she does all the time.

604
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 7: And it's like, and then the same thing I can

605
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 7: kind of pull her a little bit, you know, in

606
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 7: that direction as well, and it's like I know she

607
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 7: does the same for me in areas that I would

608
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 7: have wanted to improve and that she didn't understand. And

609
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 7: those are the things that we both drag each other

610
00:29:52,880 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 7: into more positive waters.

611
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Morgan, for you, do you think sort of you having

612
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: your key I've turned on, so to speak? Do you

613
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: think that is a function of sort of just who

614
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: you are, your own shit, your childhood, whatever it is,

615
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: whatever the psychology of Morgan is, is that what it is.

616
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: So it's almost not necessarily about body. I mean, body

617
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: seems like a pretty fucking great human being, right, but

618
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: honestly has.

619
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 6: Nothing to do with body. It's totally all on me.

620
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: It's my It's just all the baggage, my childhood, my trauma,

621
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: like you name it, X, Y and Z. But it

622
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: really I think what it comes down to is kind

623
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: of like what you guys are talking about, the sense.

624
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 6: Of identity and I don't know who the fuck I

625
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 6: am has been my thing my entire life.

626
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because you talk about professional athletes

627
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: and you lose your sport and all of a sudden

628
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: you're like, who am I?

629
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: What do I have?

630
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 6: Whereas a body, I think when you really get.

631
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: To know Body, and you ask who is No one

632
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: would ever define him as a skier.

633
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 6: They define him as Body, like that is it, and.

634
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: He's just he'd stands so strong and who he is

635
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: the birthen and his belief and his moral and his values,

636
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: and he's really unwavering in that, where me, I was

637
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: very easily persuaded in many different directions growing up and

638
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: again like relationship with parents and relationship with volleyball, and

639
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, Body can speak to that more because he

640
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: always looks back on everything that like I've been through

641
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: my life and he goes, I don't want that for

642
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: my kids, so leave all that shit, o, right, But

643
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: I really think it comes down to that, and so

644
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of one of the things we talked to

645
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: our kids.

646
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 6: About, Like, I don't care if you're an amazing athlete.

647
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't care if you get street as I care

648
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: if you love yourself like you at.

649
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 6: The end of the day, you can stand strong what

650
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 6: you believe And.

651
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so right. That's so we're the same way.

652
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the pressure on grades in school and you know,

653
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: it's just so fucked up to me, you know, Yeah,

654
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: I find myself falling into the traps because Wilder's like

655
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: my Wilder, you know, Wilder's like, I want to go

656
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: to NYU. I'm like, okay, I'm down with your grades

657
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: right now, Like I think you're doing amazing. But if

658
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: you want to go to fucking NYU is like a

659
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: as like a straight white dude, You're you're gonna have

660
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: to You're gonna have to get your shit together, Like

661
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to get better grades. You're gonna have

662
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: to get extra to extracurriculars, You're gonna have to get

663
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: in programs. I mean, you know, so I will push

664
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: him to be what he wants to be, right, I'm

665
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: content with him now.

666
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, like I was gonna say, for

667
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: you guys both growing up, you know, in the world

668
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: of athletics and becoming professionals and all of that, It's

669
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: it's interesting to think, would you kind of want that

670
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: for your children, you know? Or is it the opposite,

671
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: almost like you know, the feeling of you know, he

672
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: was you were saying before we got on too. He

673
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: was like, I wonder if you know, obviously the boys

674
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: are all scheme, but I wonder if they'll be competing

675
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: or you know, are they gonna, you know, get into

676
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: volleyball and that kind of stuff. It's like, you know,

677
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: you think that's just going to maybe be the natural

678
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: way of things, you know, or if they wanted to,

679
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: let's say, would you kind of guide them in one

680
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: way or the other.

681
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what we're That's what we're dealing with, is

682
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 7: like our kids. I mean, like you said, some similarities.

683
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 7: Morgan and I are both very strong, will to stubborn.

684
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 7: We're both, you know, in our own ways, kind of competitors. Yeah, competitors.

685
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 7: We're alpha in certain ways. In certain ways, neither we aren't.

686
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 7: But when it comes to kids, I think we both

687
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 7: very much see id eye, which is huge, Right, That's

688
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 7: a big part of it because if we were completely opposite,

689
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 7: that becomes an incredible challenge to overcome. But but yeah,

690
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 7: we have to support them in what they do.

691
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: They don't listen to us at all. I mean, at

692
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: least they don't listen to me. I think believes they

693
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: listen to her.

694
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 7: But in my opinion, they're not looking to us to

695
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 7: like shift their their totally that way. Their opinions that

696
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 7: come from I don't know where either, Like their their

697
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 7: idiot friend will say something and then they're like, that's

698
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 7: their thing for like next year, and yeah I can.

699
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 7: I can hound them day and day out and they

700
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 7: don't change at all.

701
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: They just dig their heels in Moore.

702
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 7: So, but Nate wants to play football, and you know

703
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 7: that would that it would not be a choice that

704
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 7: I would make for him, just because, as you said,

705
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 7: it's terrifying.

706
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 4: To think of some huge guy just trying to crush

707
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 4: my kid all the time.

708
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 7: I know, but the fact is, you know, my my

709
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 7: only pursuit is to try to figure out how to

710
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 7: instill that grit, that sort of self reliance, some some independence,

711
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 7: understand that you know, he's he's great whether he's you know,

712
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 7: an athlete or not, and and hopefully help him find

713
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 7: out how to how to be happy because he's a

714
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 7: tough one too. He doesn't he only enjoys winning. Like

715
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 7: he is the prototypical a male, tiny little athlete like

716
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 7: he he looks and acts like he's already a professional,

717
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 7: but like kind of like you know, the one you

718
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 7: don't want, like the one who like freaks out and

719
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 7: as soon as they're behind, he quits. And like that's

720
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 7: been incredibly frustrating for me. But but yet it's a

721
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 7: it's something that obviously I have to figure out because

722
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 7: it's different than the way I was.

723
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're such a grinder, you know what I mean.

724
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 4: You were the opposite.

725
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I was obt, but that's because I

726
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 7: wasn't talented really the way he was. He's incredibly talented,

727
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 7: and I think he's probably closer to Morgan. So I

728
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 7: lean on Morgan to sort of work through that because

729
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 7: she was super gifted and was immediately great at everything

730
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 7: she did. I was kind of like, looked horrible all

731
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 7: the time. Even when I got really good, people were like,

732
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 7: oh man, you suck, but.

733
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: You somehow get it done.

734
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 7: And I think that's it's like the advantage of being

735
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 7: a seven in terms of like good looking, like you

736
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 7: don't take shit for granted.

737
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 4: You know, you got to like work hard. And he's

738
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: he's more.

739
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 7: Like he's more like Morgan, Like they're fucking tens and

740
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 7: they you know, they can unfortunately, get can get confusing

741
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 7: because you don't know, you know, you don't understand the

742
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 7: work side of.

743
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: The grit and the talent or you know, two different things.

744
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 3: And if you can have both, you know.

745
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: Right, how old is see eleven.

746
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just turned eleven.

747
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: Oh so so there's still a lot maturing to do,

748
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 2: especially with that, with that with the wind loss thing,

749
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, I mean when you're eleven and you're that

750
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: much of a competitor, you know, even just through brain development,

751
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: you might not even be there to understand you know

752
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: that you have to kind of lose correctly as well.

753
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: So maybe that gets evolved out of him too, you know,

754
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: to or eventually, And for.

755
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: Sure that's something that we were talking about, because how

756
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: much of that you control. Like he comes into the

757
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: car and he has a bad practice, He's like, I quit,

758
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm done.

759
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 6: And you want them to be able to have that independence.

760
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: So do you let them quit and learn the hard

761
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: way at a younger age or you keep pushing them

762
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: and then eventually they're like, I don't have that safety

763
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: net of my mom's saying I can't quit because at

764
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: some point you didn't get old enough where he's gonna

765
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: say I quit and he's kicked off the team. And

766
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: so it's like we talk about this.

767
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 6: All the time.

768
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 7: We had a we had a really funny we had

769
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 7: a really funny conversation of like highlighted if it had

770
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 7: been recorded, it would have been gold Morgan there me

771
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 7: on the road, her picking him up and him being like,

772
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 7: I quit. The coach said that I did to do this,

773
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 7: So I stood there in line and didn't run a

774
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 7: single play, and just the coach was pissed and he said, well,

775
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 7: if you're not gonna play, go sit down.

776
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 4: I didn't sit down, and now I'm gonna quit.

777
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 7: And Morgan was like, like she wanted to throw him

778
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 7: out the window. I went through that with him in soccer.

779
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 7: But then I'm on the phone and I'm removed from it,

780
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 7: so I didn't have to. I didn't have that emotional

781
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 7: like adrenaline of seeing energy, which I would have wanted

782
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 7: to choke him too. But and then I come on

783
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 7: and I was like, no, dude, here's what you gotta do.

784
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 7: You got to be thinking of it this way. And

785
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 7: then afterwards Morgan was like, that was like the best

786
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 7: good cop bad cop we've ever done was legendary.

787
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: Nobody's so true. You're like, all you want to quit,

788
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: that's it, fucking quit.

789
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: That's it.

790
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: Though, when you come to me tomorrow and say I'm joking,

791
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: that's it, dude, And then you gotta of course stick that,

792
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: I mean, wilder even with jews juice doing jiu jitsu,

793
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: you know. And then he wants to quit, and I'm like,

794
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: all right, if you want to quit, that's it. I'm

795
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: not paying another five hundred dollars initiation fee you jiu

796
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: jitsu for the tenth fucking time. So you know, that's

797
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: the end of it, you know. But it's tough.

798
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: That's also that's like the impulsive reaction. That's the competitor,

799
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: the competitor in man that that will, that will move

800
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: that emotion. I think, how did.

801
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: You guys do with losing? Like how we how we thought?

802
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 7: I don't know if you remember I was like considered

803
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 7: badass and I won less than five percent of the

804
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 7: races I was in.

805
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: I crashed and.

806
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 7: I crashed and sixty percent of them where I was

807
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 7: ending up upside down on the fence like they were

808
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 7: knocked out, I mean, all scratched.

809
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: But the thing is you built an amazing brand like

810
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: through that.

811
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 7: That's what you resilience personified like I did not you know.

812
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 4: But yeah, Morgan's a better person to answer that one.

813
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: Well, A funny story with this move and the stuff

814
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: that my older boys have been through we put him

815
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: in therapy and the therapist was asking me to highlight,

816
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, the great things about my kids and the

817
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: things that they really struggle with, and we're talking about

818
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: me and like, he's so competitive, but he's a.

819
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 6: Really hard time losing. And the therapists like, why do

820
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 6: you think that is or either of you competitive? I'm like,

821
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 6: you know what, full transparency. Six months old, he's.

822
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: Wanted to rape me and compete me in everything, and

823
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: I've never let.

824
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: Him win, not only.

825
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 7: When you can mash him everything he was he was

826
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 7: just one and he's like, let's race and it's just

827
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 7: from one end of the house to the other.

828
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: And she would go full gas and on his second.

829
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 7: Step and she'd be at the other end and he

830
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 7: would throw himself on the ground and have a tantrum.

831
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 7: And then you know, five minutes later, he'd be like,

832
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 7: I want to race again, and she'd be like, okay,

833
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 7: let's do it again.

834
00:39:53,320 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: I mean, hundreds, kid, there will come a day he's

835
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: not going to forget that they're.

836
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: Will come down.

837
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: That's so funny.

838
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: At that point his life work to be what he does,

839
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: he will have earned it.

840
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 6: By myself.

841
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 7: And I hate losing some shower crying that day.

842
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Well, parenting is all one big fucking experiment

843
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: because I always say that it's not about if you

844
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: fuck up your kids, it's just to what degree you do?

845
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

846
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: You know.

847
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: I did this course called the Hoffmann Institute, which was

848
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: like a really powerful thing for me, where you're sort

849
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: of unpacking the patterns that have been put upon you

850
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: from your parents and then step parents as well. This

851
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: idea that we have negative love in our lives because

852
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 2: in order to survive, we need love of some kind

853
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's not healthy love, but we attach ourselves

854
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: to those things. And so this course was all about

855
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: understanding what these patterns were and kind of learning how

856
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: to break through them and kind of and building your toolbox.

857
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 2: It's an incredible a week of enlightenment on who your

858
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: parents were are. The forgiveness and the compassion that you

859
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: feel towards them at the end of this process is

860
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: unbelievable because then you realize that they're only repeating the

861
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 2: ship that they went through, you know, with their parents.

862
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,479
Speaker 2: The forgiveness of my father was huge because his dad

863
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: left him when he was five years old in the

864
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: middle of the night gone. You know, my dad didn't

865
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: do exactly that, but essentially he bailed, you know, so

866
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: I can't always help. But think when we're parenting, like

867
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: what am I imprinting upon these little.

868
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 4: Exactly?

869
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: They're going to be fucked up for some reason. Because

870
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: I'm a I am so she but I'm a very

871
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: open parent.

872
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: You know.

873
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: If I want to smoke a cigaret, I'll smoke in

874
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: front of my kids. I want to cocktail, I'm gonna

875
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: drink in front of my kids. I don't hide anything

876
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: because I'm an adult. Curse I'll do it. I'll do me,

877
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: you know, And I think it's a good process. These

878
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 2: kids seem to be pretty good, but when they're twenty five,

879
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: they're going to be in therapy. Like my dad was

880
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: just way too free wheeling, and I smelled weed since

881
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: I was two years old in the house.

882
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I look at it. I

883
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: think you guys similar. It's you're kind of learning as

884
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: you go and you're in it together, you know what

885
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: I mean. Most of our stuff is very it's different

886
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: than the generation before us.

887
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: Do you guys parents very similarly or do you have

888
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: things you kind of are like you're I'm over here

889
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: pretty different. But I mean, you know, Morgan goes to

890
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: eleven real quick. She has she has like in Mario

891
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: where they go in the tunnel and it warp zones them.

892
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: I don't have a warp vie.

893
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 7: He runs along and like anywhere I'm trying to get

894
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 7: to emotionally, it's going to take a little while to

895
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 7: get there.

896
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 4: She can just warp.

897
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 7: Zone right in, so like we have like us. She

898
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 7: brings a lot of into density much quicker than I do.

899
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 7: And I kind of offset that with a kind of

900
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 7: like you know, wear and tear. I just kind of

901
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 7: wear them down, and she brings the stink on them,

902
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 7: which I think is really it's a complementary pattern. But

903
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 7: both of them can be frustrating at times. Right, It's

904
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 7: frustrating to see her blow up because of other stuff.

905
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 7: A lot of times it's not even just the kids.

906
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 7: It's the kids and compounded with the rest of life.

907
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 7: And I think she gets frustrated with me that I

908
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 7: don't bring the noise on them, you know, as often.

909
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 7: But we've found I think a good groove now. I

910
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 7: think a lot of that is just kind of like

911
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 7: you know, really getting as you guys know, right, Like

912
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 7: I'm just getting to know Morgan. It's been almost twelve years,

913
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 7: and like you know, there's there's it's such a deep

914
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 7: learning processes. And it's the same with your kids, right,

915
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 7: and they're changing just like a marriage, right, Your kids

916
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 7: change the whole time. You can see their identity kind

917
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 7: of early, but then you don't know what you're seeing

918
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 7: versus what's going on in their head.

919
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: Right, you never know they're all They're all stars are

920
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 4: like they could be you know, different planets that came.

921
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: From honestly, like ours are like that as well.

922
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: Well.

923
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 7: My eleven year old the other day was I was

924
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 7: super impressed out of nowhere. I didn't tell Morgan about

925
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 7: it. It was when we went to the spectrum with Dace,

926
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 7: and he was like, you know, like if if you

927
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 7: saw orange and it was consistently orange and I saw blue,

928
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 7: but I called it orange because that's just what I saw,

929
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 7: we would never know that we were talking about two

930
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 7: different colors. And I was like, yeah, exactly. That's the

931
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 7: difference between perception and trying to get to know somebody

932
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 7: and know what they actually interpret, what do they feel,

933
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 7: and how do they interact with the world around them, Yeah,

934
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 7: versus making assumptions, right, we make assumptions all the time.

935
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 7: They're like, oh, somebody sees it the same way I

936
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: do or whatever.

937
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

938
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 7: I was like, I was like, I spent like twenty

939
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 7: minutes in in whatever it is, David Buster.

940
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: It's like sitting there with my head Land was like,

941
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: oh my god, that took us like thirty years.

942
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: That's some shit right there. Yeah, for sure, I love that.

943
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 6: I wish now I'm going to sit here for twenty

944
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 6: minutes be.

945
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: Like hell, no, wow, look.

946
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: At our kids, like, okay, one, they're amazing, like what

947
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: incredible human beings And at the same time.

948
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 6: Like bo, good job, Like we are doing some things right.

949
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's an unboxing right. We're gonna see later

950
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 7: where we screwed up, hopefully. But that's the thing that

951
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 7: I think, you know, is like Oliver was saying about

952
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 7: the Hoffin and student, like you do have to be

953
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 7: very gentle. I think it helps to be a parent

954
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 7: to help forgive your parents, right, Like, yeah, they were

955
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 7: the same, right in a lot of ways worse because

956
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 7: you know, there was different challenges that they face than

957
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 7: we do now. Different not harder, less hard, but different

958
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 7: and definitely when you see the ways they screwed up,

959
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 7: and you can be a mature adult and look back

960
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 7: and be like, whoa that they fucked up? That's legit.

961
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 7: Like they laid some heavy shit on me and did

962
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 7: not help me at all. And you know, but did

963
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 7: they do it maliciously? You know a lot of times

964
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 7: they did not. There wasn't even an ounce of malice

965
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 7: in it. It's just simply they were just fucking kids

966
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 7: who got big and learned how to talk and drive.

967
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: And then we're trying to raise kids like that. You know,

968
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: it's hard. Hard. It allows me to have a lot

969
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 4: more forgetting literally in that talk and drive thing. Now,

970
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: Like Wilders, you know, sixteen years old, he's got to

971
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: get a girlfriend for a year. Now, he's got his

972
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: first job, he's driving. You're just like, oh, okay, I

973
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: mean he's not done, he's not done done. But and

974
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: like you, how do I do this? Now?

975
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: What do I say to this fucking kid?

976
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: Like each kid that comes along, first of all, they're

977
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: all so different, so you have to parent different and

978
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: kind of just be aware of who they are. But

979
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: I will say, like as each kid comes along, it

980
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: gets easier and easier just because you're like, oh, yeah,

981
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: all right, seen this before, done this before, you kind

982
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: of you know, you're getting the hang of him when

983
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: you guys are pros at this point.

984
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: But the interesting thing too, just about the Hoffman stuff.

985
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: Then we'll move on because we get we gotta get

986
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: go on pretty soon here. But you know, I went

987
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: in there thinking that it was going to all be

988
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: about my dad and then Kurt, you know what I mean,

989
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: my stepdad who raised me, but whatever that connection was,

990
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: and then my dad who wasn't there. My mom was

991
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: going to sort of, you know, be easy breezy, because

992
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: she was always the constant in my life. It was,

993
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: it totally flipped on its head. My mother was the

994
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: one that came up the most. My mother was the

995
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: one that I had almost the most trauma about, interestingly enough,

996
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: because she was my primary caregiver and I was with

997
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: her all of the time, so I felt unprotected at times.

998
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: She would be working in a way, or she had

999
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 2: new boyfriends that I didn't really like. She would she'd

1000
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: be living her life and she was an amazing other.

1001
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 2: This was my own perceptions as a child who didn't

1002
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: have a dad and who needed her to be there,

1003
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 2: you know, and she just wasn't sometimes, and she came

1004
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: out far more than even my dad who wasn't there.

1005
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: But when I was with him, it was incredible. He

1006
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: paid attention to me. We played football, we played basketball,

1007
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: we were on the beach, he took touch at a fish.

1008
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he was so present, but he just was

1009
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: never there, you know what I mean. So it was

1010
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: really a perspective shifter for me for sure, you know.

1011
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 4: And you know, when I it's something that we're all.

1012
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 7: I mean, you guys have dynamic lives as well, Like Morgan,

1013
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 7: I think of that. And that was a big part

1014
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 7: of the conversation about her going back to play volleyball.

1015
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 7: She's going to be on the road, she's going to

1016
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 7: have to train, she's going to be a professional athlete,

1017
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 7: and that requires a degree of selfishness and you know,

1018
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 7: sort of disregard for for other stuff, and that's going

1019
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 7: to be a really hard challenge for her, I believe.

1020
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 7: I think that's going to be one of the biggest things.

1021
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 7: And it's going to you know, I think it helps

1022
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 7: that we have the experience we have now to be

1023
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 7: able to be like, Okay, it's going to be hard

1024
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 7: but you got to get through it because it's going

1025
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 7: to have value and it's one of those things that like, yeah,

1026
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 7: in twenty years are we going to.

1027
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 4: Be like whoops? Yeah, So all we can do is

1028
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 4: like is try to do it. But yeah, you know,

1029
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: like you said, the.

1030
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 7: Dynamic lifestyle is probably the biggest challenge that like you

1031
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 7: guys and we face as I'm on the road, because

1032
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 7: I do these things to try to work and make

1033
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 7: money and Morgan's going to do this and you know,

1034
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 7: those are legitimate things that are having an impact on

1035
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 7: our kids. That's really hard to know how they interpret those.

1036
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I will say, like the word you said

1037
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 8: challenge before, I think what's going to be so amazing

1038
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 8: is like your career, you know in volleyball.

1039
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: What I've seen and known just over the years is

1040
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: like you gave one hundred and fifty percent to these formative,

1041
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: extremely important years to your kids that could never be

1042
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: taken away from them. So I think this next chapter

1043
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: is going to be as you know, important and impactful

1044
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: because you want to make it that way. You know

1045
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You're not going going in like oh

1046
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: I can't wait to.

1047
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 4: Get to wait for it.

1048
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: I got to fuck them right, No, I want to go.

1049
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 3: And you know this is more like this is going

1050
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 3: to enrich me, make me a better you know mom,

1051
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: for for even just the long run, you know what

1052
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: I mean. So, and they're going to be on the road.

1053
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: They're going to fucking love it. It's going to be amazing.

1054
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: I think you guys are going to have the best time.

1055
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: And it's a chapter. Like you said, guys, been a.

1056
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: Real like shift.

1057
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: I love it, I know, real quickly.

1058
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: Then we'll get out of here. I just want to

1059
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: talk to you bout a little bit about the documentary

1060
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: you made, because you know, growing up and Aspen, you know,

1061
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: Sheriff Showy you Salva was a great friend of mine

1062
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: who raised a lot of money for veterans and then

1063
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: even sort of mental illness, mental health within the valley

1064
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: there was all there was one at one point, I

1065
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: think there was thirteen suicides in one year in the

1066
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: forty two mile valley and it was, I think per capita,

1067
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: almost like one of the biggest in the country at

1068
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: that time. You know what inspired you to make this

1069
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: and how did you recognize that this was even an

1070
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: issue specifically to sort of these mountain towns.

1071
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 4: You know, Well, there's there's two bits to that.

1072
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 7: I you know, I think the statistics are a bit

1073
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 7: misleading because when you when you look at that number

1074
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 7: of suicides, that they aren't counting the transient population, right,

1075
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 7: which in some cases is transient but not in and

1076
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 7: out for a weekend. It's much bigger than that. So

1077
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 7: I think the numbers would would come down. I think

1078
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 7: it's a global problem. I don't think it is.

1079
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: It is. There's certain metrics that you can kind of

1080
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 4: see stand out in mountaintowns, but you know, and sort

1081
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: of causations. But it was. It was something that started.

1082
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: No.

1083
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: Five.

1084
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 7: I was traveling with Brett Rapkin in Europe and we

1085
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 7: talked a lot about, you know, the way that I am.

1086
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 7: We kind of we'd have long philosophical debates as we're

1087
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 7: driving from France to Austria or whatever, you know, and

1088
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 7: there's five hours in the car and only Austrian music

1089
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 7: to listen to. So we got pretty deep. We got

1090
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 7: pretty deep into a lot of stuff. That was when

1091
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 7: it started. And then I think because of social media

1092
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 7: and because of all these other facts, you know, it

1093
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 7: kind of it just became more and more obvious to

1094
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 7: us that it needed to be sort of looked into

1095
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 7: and hopefully in a way that was more solution based.

1096
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 7: I mean, that was the goal of the movie was

1097
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 7: not it's not a feel good thing. It's not going

1098
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 7: to be Avengers, right, It's it's like a it's a

1099
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 7: It needed to be a tool to bring hopefully the

1100
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 7: conversation to the forefront, destigmatize a lot of this stuff,

1101
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 7: and hopefully start to see us towards real solutions, because

1102
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 7: it's a scary thing as a parent, right like, look

1103
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 7: at the world our kids are growing up, and we

1104
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 7: haven't touched on that, but likelieving, we're talking mostly inside

1105
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 7: of our house, you know stuff, but the outside of

1106
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 7: our house stuff is friggin terrifying as a parent right now.

1107
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: And that's why I was going to say when I

1108
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 3: was looking and you know, kind of reading about the

1109
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: project that you did. His mom, uh has a foundation

1110
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: that she started called mind Up and it's basically a

1111
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: curriculum to put into schools elementary age now they're moving

1112
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: up to middle school that really teaches kind of kids

1113
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 3: about the brain and how it works.

1114
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 4: You know.

1115
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: People think it's you know, just kind of a mindfulness foundation,

1116
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: but really it's giving kids at these very very young

1117
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 3: age the tools so when they're moving forward and growing up,

1118
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: because there's this kind of you know, I would say

1119
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: it's penduluance, you know, swing with you know kids these days,

1120
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: there's there's just not a lot of resilience and whether

1121
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: that be kind of from oh everybody gets a trophy

1122
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: or you know, the social media, whatever it might be.

1123
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 3: You know, oh you're okay, you know all that kind

1124
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: of stuff. And I'm you know, rushing here trying to

1125
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: say it, but she just said, these kids don't have

1126
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: the tools to know how to handle their emotions, whether

1127
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: it be anger, fear, sadness, isolation, and so it teaches

1128
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: kids about their brain and their body, basically helping them.

1129
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: Well, it's like, I understand what's happening feeling stressed and

1130
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 2: angry instead of just feeling it. It's understanding why, why, scientifically,

1131
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: what is going on in your brain?

1132
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 7: That is no, I mean, it's that's a root cause

1133
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 7: it's our curriculum, right, it's pretty arbitrary. We're dealing with

1134
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 7: a curriculum that we teach kids, and that's inside the

1135
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 7: home as well as in any institutional, you know, educational

1136
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 7: system that it's so damn old and outdated and pointless, Like, yeah,

1137
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 7: we have to evolve that. That is fundamentally. That's the

1138
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 7: only thing I've really honed in on that I believe

1139
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 7: has a high likelihood of success in terms of shifting

1140
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 7: the direction we're all going in and kids are. I

1141
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 7: think there's a way to teach that. That's interesting because

1142
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 7: it's relevant, right. All the shit they learn is so

1143
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 7: esoteric and irrelevant. It's like you're trying to mash it

1144
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 7: in there, whereas understanding your brain and like neuroscience, while

1145
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 7: it seems complicated, is all functional. It's like theology. It

1146
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 7: makes that kids love that shit because they can see it.

1147
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 7: It's like, it's so, yeah, I agree with you one

1148
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 7: hundred percent.

1149
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know Goldie was doing that, but that's awesome.

1150
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 7: It's becoming a movement more and more where people are

1151
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 7: realizing that, like, we have to instill young people with

1152
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 7: tools to manage this fucked up world we're building for them,

1153
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 7: because it's evolving from top down kind of. You know,

1154
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 7: older people are building infrastructure and patterns and all the

1155
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 7: computers and apps and all the shit that kind of

1156
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 7: populates life, and the kids are being left with the

1157
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 7: same tools that people were fifty.

1158
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 4: Or sixty years ago, where they shouldn't have any of

1159
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 4: the challenges.

1160
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 7: And it's like, sorry, dudes, you got to change the

1161
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 7: skill set you're giving the kids if you affect them

1162
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 7: to be able to deal with this at all. Yeah,

1163
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 7: and adults, adults can't deal with it, and how do

1164
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 7: we expect.

1165
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 4: Them to do it?

1166
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, it's so true. One last question just to

1167
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: answer sort of about each other, right, sort of a

1168
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 2: too pronger in a way. So if there was one

1169
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: thing that you could take from your partner that you

1170
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: wish that you had to make yourself sort of a

1171
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: better person, what would it be? And then the other

1172
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: part is if you could if you could alleviate something

1173
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: in them and take that away to make their lives better,

1174
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 2: what would that be?

1175
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 7: You want to go first order me? I would I

1176
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 7: would take away her irrational fear. I think it's something

1177
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 7: I took very proactively in my own life, and it's

1178
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 7: it's such a gift if you can get rid of

1179
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 7: irrational fear where fear is connected to legitimate danger or

1180
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 7: risk associated risk. And if I could take something from

1181
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 7: her that that would help me absolutely, her her ability

1182
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 7: to feel and express emotion. I sort of dold all

1183
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 7: mine based on how much my ass got kicked in

1184
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 7: everything I did and sort of the I sort of

1185
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 7: had to harden myself against the naysayers because I had

1186
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 7: them my whole career, and so that distancing from it

1187
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 7: becomes really hard to walk back as a parent, and

1188
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 7: I want to be a parent who like can really

1189
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 7: engage in a positive way and share the frustration stuff

1190
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 7: in you know, in the in the harder times with

1191
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 7: my kids, and it's it's that part's really hard for me,

1192
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 7: and she excels at those great thanks.

1193
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I really admire

1194
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: about Bodie is his patience and how unflappable he is,

1195
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: Like I know that I can always count on him

1196
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: to be so steady, and it's something that I.

1197
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 6: Wish I had, Like I will ride these waves and.

1198
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: It's so funny because you're wanting to be more like

1199
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 1: me and I'm wanting to be more like you. He'll

1200
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: stay here and he'll just watch go and say I'm

1201
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: here when you're ready. And I think it's one of

1202
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: the most incredible qualities because I mean, our kids always

1203
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: know that he is a steady, safe place. I mean

1204
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: something I would take away. At first, I was thinking myself,

1205
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: like my spending habits, so it doesn't.

1206
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 6: Have to work so much, so, you know, because you

1207
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 6: know that's true.

1208
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: Her powers, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

1209
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: She's like a magician.

1210
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 7: She's like, and I'll move it over here by these

1211
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 7: and it's gone, yeap.

1212
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 6: How what would I take.

1213
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't see too many faults in body, to be

1214
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: completely honest.

1215
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 6: Wow.

1216
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: And where there were faults, it's been areas that we've

1217
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: worked through, like epathy, for example, and I think that

1218
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: is so important for a relationship, is to be able

1219
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: to have empathy. And he's kicked it out with that too,

1220
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: and it's been a process and learning.

1221
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: But well, then, body, what would you take away from yourself?

1222
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: Like if you could alleviate something from you, You're like,

1223
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't like this about myself? Is there anything you

1224
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 2: just yeah?

1225
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 4: Am I just perfect? No? No? I think.

1226
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, there's definitely a lot of it is kind

1227
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 7: of nuanced. I mean again, it's it's not not to

1228
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 7: put my tires, but I don't like to. I don't

1229
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 7: like to have things that I can obviously be I'm

1230
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 7: not a person who waits for New Year's to have

1231
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 7: a resolution. I have resolutions every single day. And the

1232
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 7: way that I communicate with people I've been I've noticed

1233
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 7: for years and I just can't put my finger on

1234
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 7: what it is.

1235
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 4: Right. And Morgan toll a test and I'm sure Oliver

1236
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: will too.

1237
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 7: There's a mode that my brain goes into where it

1238
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 7: goes into like from the best possible place it comes from,

1239
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 7: but it goes in and know it all mode, and

1240
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 7: it's just it's repellent. It makes information not be absorbed.

1241
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 7: And it's been that way since I was born as

1242
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 7: far as I can remember, and I hate that, Like

1243
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 7: I feel like I want to be able to have

1244
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 7: something of the humility knob or whatever the fuck the

1245
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 7: knob is needs to be turned up so that I

1246
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 7: can share and impart information that I might you know,

1247
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 7: insight or things that are coming really from a positive

1248
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 7: place but that don't come across as know it all

1249
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 7: picking at someone or because they it's not where they

1250
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 7: come from, but it's how they're interpreted. And I can

1251
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 7: see it while it's happening. And I just stopped talking now.

1252
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 4: I'm just.

1253
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 7: I did the other night hey, I did. I'm working

1254
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 7: on it, but I just stopped. I was like, look,

1255
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 7: I'm going into that moune. I'm done.

1256
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 4: Stop.

1257
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 7: It's not a good solution, but that's something that definitely

1258
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 7: I would take away. I don't know what it is exactly,

1259
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 7: it's too nuanced.

1260
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, we're all working on our ship. That's

1261
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: about it. All right, guys, We're gonna let you go.

1262
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: But when you when you do get up, let us know.

1263
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: If we come down to o C like, we'll come

1264
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: hit you.

1265
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 4: We'll meet up.

1266
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: I'm excited we get to see you guys here to

1267
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: know at least awesome. I love it. I'm so excited

1268
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: for you.

1269
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: By the way, you guys, I think.

1270
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: Amazing.

1271
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, guys are gonna have a blast.

1272
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 6: Is super excited. He's like, oh, your ass is going

1273
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 6: to be so nice.

1274
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 4: Again about getting.

1275
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: I love the whole day.

1276
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 3: Every day we're gonna get off and all it's gonna

1277
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: be like, is going to be.

1278
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: Trying out for this team?

1279
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 4: All right, okay, all we love you guys. That was awesome.

1280
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun guys later, Wow, well that was awesome. How

1281
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: open are they? This is what I love about them.

1282
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 3: That's what he was saying in the beginning, so real,

1283
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: so open, so down to earth.

1284
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: I want to basically out. You know, well, babe, thanks

1285
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: for filling in. Maybe you'll be doing it how much

1286
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: care I know, but it's over and I love you.

1287
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 4: I love you, Kate.

1288
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: I hope I didn't disappoint you. Maybe you can do

1289
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: part two with them because it was really fun.

1290
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 6: Yeah,