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Speaker 1: when we started this podcast, we said we wanted to
Speaker 1: interview legends. We said we wanted to interview groundbreakers and
Speaker 1: people who's doing groundbreaking things. And we speak by the
Speaker 1: man that we got in front of us right now.
Speaker 1: You're talking about a person who's came from overseas, came
Speaker 1: to America, lived the American dream, got locked up, and
Speaker 1: still came home and lived the American dream. He did
Speaker 1: what he had to do consistently. And one thing that
Speaker 1: I love about him he still keeps cruel with him.
Speaker 1: He still got Black Warrior with him. He's out here
Speaker 1: consistently doing what he gotta do. He got he got
Speaker 1: all types of currency in different fucking form, mats, crypto
Speaker 1: currency ship. This motherfucker got nineteen hundred wives. They got houses, houses,
Speaker 1: and seven continentses. He's wearing a pink shirt tonight, just
Speaker 1: mixed noise. Ain't ain't I gotta correct the salmon difference. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. You have such a like a
Speaker 1: van glorious career, right, but a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know that you actually started from the bottom, like because um,
Speaker 1: because because because once you had your one like single
Speaker 1: locked up, like, your career just kept going, kept going,
Speaker 1: kept going, So no one actually pays attention to the
Speaker 1: struggle prior to that. So that's what I want to
Speaker 1: get into right now. So how how how do you so?
Speaker 1: You was born in Senegore? No, actually I was born
Speaker 1: in St. Louis, Taylor, Missouri. I googled that. I thought
Speaker 1: they were wrong. It was in Wikipedia. I thought Makipedia
Speaker 1: sucking up. Okay, it's sucking up on everything else. But you,
Speaker 1: my pops was he was always a forward thinker, like
Speaker 1: he made sure that we was all born in the
Speaker 1: States so we wouldn't have no immigration problems in there. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's what I's gonna go to now. That makes the
Speaker 1: most sense ever, telling you everything so shortly after birth.
Speaker 1: He just shipped us all back. We didn't even spend
Speaker 1: thirty days in the States after birth, best born and
Speaker 1: sent right back. Your passport is blue. You got dual passport.
Speaker 1: I gott dual pass Okay, but it's still because you
Speaker 1: citizen when you're born here, yea, as of right now.
Speaker 1: At that time, were not even right now right now.
Speaker 1: So St. Louis right now, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: You and Nellie was going to school, yeah, man, and
Speaker 1: Nellie was actually racist the same we all went. We
Speaker 1: all went to U City High like, we all went
Speaker 1: to the same Now. Now, now I didn't hear this
Speaker 1: from you, but I heard this from Nellie. That was
Speaker 1: like a big gang banging. Wow, and you went to
Speaker 1: that high school? Yeah, that was That was one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I moved to Jersey because I was
Speaker 1: getting too much trouble in St. Louis. But you can't
Speaker 1: moved from St. Louis to Jersey there. Yeah, but my
Speaker 1: parents didn't know that. They put me from one and
Speaker 1: that's that's that's something that's is very like a key
Speaker 1: to you. I could see because you know, all the goals,
Speaker 1: all accomplishments you have done, you still keep your Jersey
Speaker 1: ties like always. Man, that impresses me. By the way,
Speaker 1: Jersey was a special turning point in my life for sure,
Speaker 1: like that's where a boy became a man. Really, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And around that time it was
Speaker 1: a lot of segregation and racist and me being an
Speaker 1: African in Jersey City, the Puerto Ricans embraced me. And
Speaker 1: we say segregation, you're saying between blacks and white, so
Speaker 1: you're saying between blacks and Puerto Ricans general. But to
Speaker 1: see the difference what I learned because where I was
Speaker 1: coming from it was just different, like in Missouri's it
Speaker 1: like it's a different kind of racial you find what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, it's different, so different. I didn't see
Speaker 1: difference between that much diversity. Yeah, it was either in
Speaker 1: Missouri Naka may see. So me it was either black
Speaker 1: or white. So if you was a fair color, it
Speaker 1: didn't matter what nationality was to me, he was white,
Speaker 1: like you would have been considered white to you would
Speaker 1: have black. Tell what I'm saying. So when I got
Speaker 1: New Jersey, it was try to you know. So it
Speaker 1: was just it was just different. So when I went
Speaker 1: to Jersey and and I heard Puerto Ricans called the
Speaker 1: niggas niggas, and I was like, yeah, let this nigga
Speaker 1: call y'all nigga. Like I was like, Yo, there's like
Speaker 1: nigga niggas like when when they were they more niggas
Speaker 1: than we are. And as I started to kind of sucking,
Speaker 1: as I started to realize you, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: part because a little bit more niggag like on everything.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. So if y'all earned the right to
Speaker 1: say the word nigga, like actual, why people don't even
Speaker 1: know that? Like Portuguese, y'all y'all sucking Africans. I mean,
Speaker 1: most Latinos are a mix of everything. No, yeah, African
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem. I'm telling this is why, that's
Speaker 1: why the connection is so tight. Like when I took
Speaker 1: a lot of my couple of block Royal family members
Speaker 1: to Africa, they didn't even know the thirty of Africa
Speaker 1: speak fluent Spanish like they was looking like, right, and
Speaker 1: French to French is like most of West Africa. But
Speaker 1: there's Spanish colonialism. Every every language in Africa spoke because
Speaker 1: of you know, some kind of takeover colonialism for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's just I think that was so beautiful. But
Speaker 1: I don't understand what cryptocurrency is. Nobody does, Okay, can
Speaker 1: you break it down. I'm trying to spread it up
Speaker 1: because I trying to take your investment. Did I make
Speaker 1: an investment? I don't know what to do. I'm just
Speaker 1: geeze money and just helping. I'll be flipping if you
Speaker 1: But that's that's that's that's the thing. It's no different
Speaker 1: from the stock market, like people buy shares, right. What
Speaker 1: I ship think about it, The worth is by how
Speaker 1: many people buy into it. It's really about it's all popularity.
Speaker 1: That's all marketing, so all promoting. It's like whatever this
Speaker 1: is trusted the most, Like in companies, you buy shares
Speaker 1: and companies that's more trusted. You know they're gonna make
Speaker 1: a profit, they're gonna yield an investment, right, So you
Speaker 1: go there with your money because you know these guys
Speaker 1: in the next four or five ten years. Their projections
Speaker 1: say they're gonna make triple what they're making now. So
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, that's someplace I want to invest in.
Speaker 1: When you look at cryptocurrency, it's a little bit different,
Speaker 1: but it's almost the same concept the way I understand
Speaker 1: it now, I'm still learning a lot about it myself,
Speaker 1: because the more I get into it, the more I
Speaker 1: start to understand. You'll support a coin, Yeah, mine is
Speaker 1: a coin. A coins is a genius name. By the way,
Speaker 1: that's hard. So I'm invested. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 1: investing name, but I'm invest So what you're invested in
Speaker 1: is the future of Africa when you invest in a coin.
Speaker 1: And I heard you also say invest in Africa, we're
Speaker 1: getting that said that later you continue about a coin.
Speaker 1: So a coin now is like it's set up to
Speaker 1: empowered you know the entrepreneur is it? Is it back?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know about the completely I
Speaker 1: p o s are backing this stuff? Was that a
Speaker 1: company structure that that backs up a cryptocurrency? What does
Speaker 1: the thing? Crypto ain't really backed by nothing like bitcoining
Speaker 1: and back by anything. Right, it's back it's the network
Speaker 1: it's backed by the popularity and the trust factor. You
Speaker 1: you can trust to know that if you buy a
Speaker 1: bitcoin is worth a certain amount of money. That's any currency,
Speaker 1: it's whatever the people say it's worth. Like right now,
Speaker 1: these bottles could be worth more than money if we
Speaker 1: all come out and say that this bottle is worth
Speaker 1: more than this money. But in this case, the the
Speaker 1: bottle is worth money. So in Layman's like sneakers, like sneakers.
Speaker 1: When sneakers, everybody says this is worth this, this is
Speaker 1: worth so much the same thing. So what do you
Speaker 1: mean made you even interested in something like? Well man,
Speaker 1: because I realized that this crypto is gonna be the
Speaker 1: future in currency. That fact, I'll just watch how things
Speaker 1: change drastically in time to digital like and I always
Speaker 1: compare everything to me, Like you went from you know,
Speaker 1: two inch rails to eight track tapes to vinyl, two cassettes,
Speaker 1: two CDs, two m P three's and now streaming. Right,
Speaker 1: so now when you look at currency, you went from
Speaker 1: you know, stage coaches, you know, to like literally trading
Speaker 1: whatever you can trade. They went from trading cattle to
Speaker 1: trading you know, gold. I'm saying, actually creating something that
Speaker 1: gold can be, you know, compared to which is the
Speaker 1: actual dollar it is today and dollar eventually is gonna
Speaker 1: turn into something digital tool. So what makes you think
Speaker 1: that Donald dollar itself ain't gonna turn into a digital
Speaker 1: cars because saying dollars analog dollars analog dollars. Credit card
Speaker 1: is digital. But crypto that was money, that was that
Speaker 1: was so from I mean, now crypto is gonna become
Speaker 1: the next digital priss. So if you don't invest in that,
Speaker 1: now it's like if you don't see that coming. Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm blind, right, So now a can I know
Speaker 1: a corn is rich, I know he know he got everything.
Speaker 1: Now I want to got send reshirts on. So now
Speaker 1: I want to invest? How did I invest? How How
Speaker 1: does one go about someone who doesn't have your phone number?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, who can't actually get this explanation.
Speaker 1: So just for these lamest terms out there, how do
Speaker 1: they invest in a coin? Well, a coin it's gonna
Speaker 1: be up for sale in October, coin base, you know,
Speaker 1: coin base that it's gonna be everywhere. I mean a
Speaker 1: coin is actually gonna be in more places in certain places,
Speaker 1: and even you know, because Africa we have an old
Speaker 1: platform to do whatever, and Africa has been ahead of
Speaker 1: the curve using yeah we exchange through the phone. Yeah
Speaker 1: there was, there was a bit point before big like
Speaker 1: they've been on thehead of thee they've been wait ahead
Speaker 1: of it. So you know, eventually you'll be able to
Speaker 1: go to your local A t M and be able
Speaker 1: to trade money in for eight points. So so so
Speaker 1: I'll give you ten thousand. I give like this example,
Speaker 1: I'll give ten thousand. Now what happens in return? Will
Speaker 1: you buy? You? Invest in thousands and point you just
Speaker 1: sit on the in the value goes on wow, and
Speaker 1: then you trade it in and then you trade it
Speaker 1: when you feel you need to trade it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like it's like yes, it's like
Speaker 1: the point. I mean everything. You gotta learn the game,
Speaker 1: understand how you know the currency fluctuate up and down.
Speaker 1: If you got ten bands right now, it's yours, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's yours. I don't know what I'm doing, but
Speaker 1: I trust you because I know you're ready. But that's
Speaker 1: what you don't want to trust Nobody trust, don't trust,
Speaker 1: don't trust nobody rich, trust and rich out of you,
Speaker 1: because that's what I learned. I don't trust rich people.
Speaker 1: That's how they got rich. You know what, I'm to
Speaker 1: be untrustworthy. Yeah, but I do respect him and I
Speaker 1: do listen because now they're gonna give you information that
Speaker 1: you can utilize in your own life. But the word
Speaker 1: trust don't that's that don't like it don't exist in business.
Speaker 1: I realize, damn that's you know, it makes some noise
Speaker 1: to that. You didn't there. It's about negotiation, right, and
Speaker 1: if you want to have the uproar the negotiation, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be things you're not gonna tell me, so you
Speaker 1: can have advantage over the over the negotiation. So already
Speaker 1: ain't no trust because I'm negotiating to get a better
Speaker 1: position and you're negotiating to get a better position. So
Speaker 1: according to what you know and according to what I know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hold off a little bit to get in
Speaker 1: that position because it's not a good business deal if
Speaker 1: I'm not in a better position to you. You find
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, trust, it's out the windows. Basically, poker,
Speaker 1: It's basically that's exactly what it is. Okay. So also
Speaker 1: you have also brought electricity to Africa. A certain part
Speaker 1: of Africa. Of so, so what happened and why did
Speaker 1: you even like fill this need? Now, first of all,
Speaker 1: it was a need, okay, and I always looked at
Speaker 1: when I first did it was just ready to kind
Speaker 1: of get back and more for plangey. But let me
Speaker 1: let me ask you, so, were you just going to
Speaker 1: these certain towns and seeing that there was no electures
Speaker 1: it's actually started triggered. How it trigger? It was he
Speaker 1: was trying to do concerts in certain parts of Africa,
Speaker 1: but we couldn't do it because there was no electricity.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait a minute, you don't tell
Speaker 1: me if you don't have enough electricity to do a concert.
Speaker 1: And then there was an area where there was electricity.
Speaker 1: But then when we went to go do this like
Speaker 1: the concert, and before the second song even came on,
Speaker 1: all the lights went out. And that's what I like, Man,
Speaker 1: if something gotta some gotta give here, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that was just what triggered that happened
Speaker 1: to me In the Dominican Republic, I was getting a
Speaker 1: haircut and half of my haircut came off, and then
Speaker 1: if the fucking lights went out, and it was like
Speaker 1: you gotta wait two hours the ship. I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: I changed the subjects. So it is real, like domic
Speaker 1: you need to fix your power system a long term,
Speaker 1: I'm just turning resort system. I'm so sorry, but that's this.
Speaker 1: It's the same kind of shot, you know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that triggered it. But then when I want the job,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to both visit your grandparents and
Speaker 1: when they live in there's no electricity, then you want
Speaker 1: to really your grandparends. You say grandmother didn't have electricity,
Speaker 1: she was living what she complaining like when you went
Speaker 1: to Yeah, but everything that's that's what they lived at
Speaker 1: every day. So they didn't even notice that that was
Speaker 1: a luxury that they never even experienced that the rest
Speaker 1: of the world is experiencing. Me leaving out of the
Speaker 1: experience with the experience coming back and you was feeling guilty,
Speaker 1: So visit my grandma. But you wanted to be you know,
Speaker 1: because something you like, you gotta think about it. You
Speaker 1: don't really know what's good to you, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that wasn't a money play for you, correct,
Speaker 1: because you actually gave your money, right, put up my
Speaker 1: own money to get you know, to get it started.
Speaker 1: And what was it like ten thousand homes at the time,
Speaker 1: it was ten homes. And what's the infrastructure you're setting up?
Speaker 1: Like what is it that it takes to start to
Speaker 1: give electricity to a town? Um, it depends on what
Speaker 1: kind of electricity you're given. Like damn, what are you
Speaker 1: guys doing? I mean right now, I'm putting out so
Speaker 1: many grids And so that's from I'm the sun. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, Africa's never gonna run out of sun never.
Speaker 1: It was a perfect That's why we can talk like this.
Speaker 1: God that makes a noise us because in my mind
Speaker 1: of a dogskin nigger in my mind and my mind doskin,
Speaker 1: I'm trying since eight to get dark. I'm great to
Speaker 1: go ahead continue, you know, yeah, but I mean that's
Speaker 1: a tad though, bron that listen. I'm not gonna you
Speaker 1: know I'm Drake color, but you do like I'll just
Speaker 1: like you know, I was Drake color before I moved
Speaker 1: out here, Like yeah, I mean, and Drake was the
Speaker 1: same color. No, no, no, I was a little dark
Speaker 1: and Drake. But I want to be because big up
Speaker 1: to Sammy Sosa, Big up to um what's the Jamaican
Speaker 1: guy that they super soap wasn't named Myles Cocktail that
Speaker 1: was locked up? Man, Yeah he locked up. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying he used the soap to Kim White and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's he's white. Yeah, the soap is white.
Speaker 1: It's called what is it makes you like black rock? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna blet so Yeah, it's gonna blet soap.
Speaker 1: So that's where they say. They say, um, she don't bleach,
Speaker 1: bleach bleach. So they're big up the girls that don't bleach.
Speaker 1: But when I see that, say, oh ship, I'm not
Speaker 1: exact opposite, like I want to be black rock, want
Speaker 1: I want to use the black soap to get back.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because you know why melanin
Speaker 1: is a great thing. I've studied melanon, I've understand it
Speaker 1: and understand that all of us haven't melanin. It's a blessing.
Speaker 1: It's not a curse. It's not a curse. That's the
Speaker 1: reason why they try to promote it as a curse,
Speaker 1: because you know, they don't want you to feel like
Speaker 1: a king that you actually are like regularly bro even
Speaker 1: out here man, whenever that's whenever it's hot. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: catch at least thirty minutes out of that song. Oh
Speaker 1: you go out in town. I just I mean for people.
Speaker 1: I just can't let nobody get dalk to me. I'm
Speaker 1: asking Michael Black. I was dog goddamn, that's he's so rich.
Speaker 1: I smell money. Oh ship brother, give you look. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna rush to the question
Speaker 1: real quick because I had this question for later on
Speaker 1: in the show. But you got like a real family, right, No, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: you got a real, real family, like your family ain't playing.
Speaker 1: And now you're all from Synegal. Everybody, everybody, Now, let
Speaker 1: me just tell you something I told Europe a lot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Synagale people that that migrated to
Speaker 1: your friends everywhere, everywhere, at least like Jamaica. Every nigger
Speaker 1: I looked at in their eyes from Synegal, I could
Speaker 1: tell they killed somebody. I'm not saying, y'all, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like it's been like Syneage, like part of Africa was
Speaker 1: going west side? What what? What? What Nori experienced was
Speaker 1: no fear. That's what your experience. Okay, when you look
Speaker 1: at us, when you look at the Senegal and are
Speaker 1: you saying you're saying that they had no fear? Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah I had fear, definitely nothing. Yeah, they sit there
Speaker 1: like it was this guy, right, I swear to guard.
Speaker 1: This is my CNN getting like twenty five still good money, right,
Speaker 1: So we go to the club. He pays us twenty five,
Speaker 1: but he gives us nothing. No, this is in France.
Speaker 1: This is in France. Does your homie that you've been
Speaker 1: telling about this is in Marseille? My homies in my
Speaker 1: homies in Paris? Does marse Marseille? Actually in soccer they
Speaker 1: got you can't even mention Paris and Marseilles and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So we walked in the club and the guy gives
Speaker 1: us some money and that's it right, and that's it right,
Speaker 1: and he did no bottles, no no. So I looked
Speaker 1: at the dude and you know, our real manager at
Speaker 1: the time. I was like, you're about the flip when
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, I said, and they go you knew He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said this told me something different. He looked at
Speaker 1: me and Signori, I'm having a bad night. You're lucky
Speaker 1: I paid you. He didn't say that, but his eyes
Speaker 1: said that. His eyes is no, I respect you and
Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. And then we had to leave.
Speaker 1: Now mind you, we were formed. Man, we do we
Speaker 1: gotta do. Now, we gotta walk to the car. I
Speaker 1: was glad. I didn't get mad at this guy. I
Speaker 1: was so glad. And remember people, let's leave them so God,
Speaker 1: honestly is probably the most peaceful place in all of Africa.
Speaker 1: I never had a conflict. It's very religious base. How
Speaker 1: about the cos That's why now Congo d the Congo.
Speaker 1: Those niggas killed gorillas with their bea hands. Those niggas
Speaker 1: ain't nothing to play with. That was another promoter that
Speaker 1: I had. I had a DJ. I forget his name.
Speaker 1: He's from Switzerland. Forgot your name. Um, totally forgot so sorry.
Speaker 1: But another promoter he came. He booked us same price,
Speaker 1: the same thing. Did that and then the DJ said
Speaker 1: leave here about to go people and said and he said,
Speaker 1: I was like, you're wet from the Congo. I said
Speaker 1: that sounds real. Let me let this one to let
Speaker 1: me let this one goal. Congo is serious in the
Speaker 1: military over there. They what they raised in the middleity
Speaker 1: and you gotta stay. They've been in civil war films
Speaker 1: since I don't know how long, between the East and
Speaker 1: the West. I mean the Congo these day some fighters. Man,
Speaker 1: the kids grew up warriors. So that's Central Affica, right,
Speaker 1: the Congo Congos. No, that's wests. What's the blood diamond stuff?
Speaker 1: See what you've been now. I used to wear a
Speaker 1: lot of diamonds. Now you you light with it because
Speaker 1: you're so rich. The more rich and you get the
Speaker 1: last like thing. In the beginning, it was just it
Speaker 1: was you never had it. So you just go hard
Speaker 1: on everything, like I over did every like literally over
Speaker 1: did everything. But then you start to realize how much
Speaker 1: money you wasting. It just didn't did you realize that
Speaker 1: it's not even important? You don't even like convict? Change
Speaker 1: this big google it. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you one of
Speaker 1: the crazy story. Let me get this off of my
Speaker 1: um uh my, my ma. Listen, I'm in the land
Speaker 1: on one day it's snows like snows, but it's snows.
Speaker 1: The whole fucking city shuts down, right. I think it's
Speaker 1: just like yo, it's snow I'm like, I'm from New
Speaker 1: York City, nigga, So like, what the So there's no
Speaker 1: gas none and like a seventh block radius. So we're like,
Speaker 1: fuck it, we have to all what's this ship next
Speaker 1: to the Living Small hotel? The Swiss hotel? But what
Speaker 1: was it prior to that? Was the Western I believe,
Speaker 1: so it is when I was a Swiss hotel. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool. So I get my driver
Speaker 1: and they said to me, Okay, no sweat. If no
Speaker 1: one else have gas, don't worry. Acorn has a gas
Speaker 1: station and his career, that's true, but just gassing you up.
Speaker 1: He said, you're listen, you know a cos that's my
Speaker 1: nigged what you said, that's what that's one leg. You
Speaker 1: know a can gotta gas? You know what I say?
Speaker 1: Where he's a kind of gas, Like is it on
Speaker 1: Peach Street? I said no, in his career, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I didn't even answer the question because I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't I didn't know the type of
Speaker 1: rich that is, right, Like you got a motherfucking get
Speaker 1: it's a fool. You got a texticole that that's some
Speaker 1: forward thinking. At the beginning of the block but he
Speaker 1: got he got a chevron pump in the crib. Okay,
Speaker 1: you love the parking lot, it's a chevron pump. Because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie. I'm so glad this room was true. Right.
Speaker 1: What the fuck made you say I'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: gas station at the crib? Why not? I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: You can't what he made you say? Yo? Because I
Speaker 1: said a lie. It was so rich that when the
Speaker 1: person said that to me, I was like, I said, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't think I got a car number. I definitely
Speaker 1: didn't have it then, so I said, let's just go
Speaker 1: to the Oh, let's just just chill. Let's go to
Speaker 1: the bar for a second, and then ship hit me
Speaker 1: for six hours. Then he got a gas station in
Speaker 1: this house. I got to reevaluate my life. Made you
Speaker 1: he was building the cub and said, fuck it, I
Speaker 1: want to pump Humber nine right here? Like, how did this?
Speaker 1: How did this? I told you I was. I overdid
Speaker 1: everything that then. So that was that phase when I
Speaker 1: just overdid everything. I wanted to outdo everybody. I wanted
Speaker 1: to overdo it with another off the block cars, damn.
Speaker 1: You know. So maybe before I would just you know,
Speaker 1: fill up, n done. I gotta pet peep about my
Speaker 1: gas tank being at a half tape like I don't okay,
Speaker 1: I never let it get under the half but like
Speaker 1: below the half mark, damn, a car still fill up
Speaker 1: my made back for twenty dollars. Think, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off. I'm sorry, but you said
Speaker 1: so you're built in the crib and you said fuck it.
Speaker 1: I never want to go out to get gas. No,
Speaker 1: I was too popular. It was just hitache. I think
Speaker 1: it's mad, pctic and then but it's practical, it makes sense,
Speaker 1: like sense something you can say. At that time, I
Speaker 1: was thinking straight too, because every time we used to
Speaker 1: jack cars, we did it from the gas in Atlanta
Speaker 1: at that time. That's crazy at the gas, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't think of that. I never thought of that.
Speaker 1: I never thought of But that's still some flo too
Speaker 1: many cars, and I'm a would have been too many
Speaker 1: gas st stops. I'm not taking that chance. So when
Speaker 1: you say thirty two cars, right, I want to think
Speaker 1: of this now, when you say thirty two cars, we
Speaker 1: are we saying made backs because you pulled up in
Speaker 1: a ghost right, Okay, so you don't got like Chevrolet
Speaker 1: sixty threes. You know, I mean, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: old schools. I can't do that. You don't do old
Speaker 1: school I'm I'm mine. I'm gonna get one with schooling
Speaker 1: by from phone master flex. I'm gonna be honest. Jump cars,
Speaker 1: you don't vote with you. You could just call them
Speaker 1: jump cars. They jump cards, bro. I mean yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take one or two. Huh dirty yea. I saw
Speaker 1: you on the highway when I was a kid. Tweet
Speaker 1: my man, my brother is ye can never do the
Speaker 1: old school thing. Oh man? All right. So the song
Speaker 1: sorry one of my favorite songs. Also one of the
Speaker 1: times I kind of disagree with you. I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like you should have said sorry at that time. Like
Speaker 1: at that time, I think you jumped in the crowd
Speaker 1: or something like that. You know. What happened was I
Speaker 1: was in Trinidad and we was having a dutty winding
Speaker 1: contest and the girl came up. She was only four teens. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Now I understand that her father was a preacher.
Speaker 1: You know, he was a preacher. He was preaching one
Speaker 1: of the most um you know, respected churches over there.
Speaker 1: And the concert was a huge success. Even the contest
Speaker 1: was a huge success. But she won the contest, so
Speaker 1: she ended up on the front page newspaper along with me,
Speaker 1: saying how successful the show was. Dad wakes up to
Speaker 1: read the paper the next Sunday morning and sees his
Speaker 1: daughter in the front page on top of me on
Speaker 1: the newspaper, and he flipped out. So it became a
Speaker 1: story that, yeah, you know I was sexually you know whatever,
Speaker 1: dancing with this minor, not realizing that's the culture in Trinidad. However,
Speaker 1: the story was you had jumped in the crowd or
Speaker 1: something like that. I'm that makes total sense because when
Speaker 1: I actually apologize, I was like, I didn't want you,
Speaker 1: because sometimes it's artists, we bear on a responsibility that's
Speaker 1: not all, that's not ours. But you know I got
Speaker 1: that for sure. And then you know, of course one
Speaker 1: seeing it and everybody took up and took on the story.
Speaker 1: All the sponsors started putting out, start doing all this right,
Speaker 1: So this became where the actually the song came after
Speaker 1: Pokeepsie didn't. Yeah, that's when I had threw this kid
Speaker 1: off the stage for throwing something, throwing something on the
Speaker 1: stage for me, So that's more of So what I
Speaker 1: was apologizing for but so that's what I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I mean, sincerely, that's what made me say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I need to grow up on that part of it. Now.
Speaker 1: The Trinidads played, I didn't think that was my faunt
Speaker 1: at all, because I'm just doing my job. I got
Speaker 1: paid for service. It's not my job to secure security
Speaker 1: in that club. I don't even of her. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like a dance with the fat girl and then
Speaker 1: a little different. But but naturally, when you're celebrity, clearly
Speaker 1: the blame has to be on somebody. So the approach
Speaker 1: that I took was if the club owners, the security,
Speaker 1: whoever responsible for that protocol is not willing to be
Speaker 1: a man and take the blame, I'll take it for you.
Speaker 1: Then you know what I'm saying. And that's what that man.
Speaker 1: God dammit. That's the funny shing about you, right is
Speaker 1: I knew you for years, always a peaceful, always respectful.
Speaker 1: But when you google you, right, because I have to
Speaker 1: google everybody that's on here, the first seven things is
Speaker 1: a calm, fights serious diego. The first can't you know
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that about you? That's crazy. The
Speaker 1: first seven things right, it was the first seven Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. So are you, like appaused by that
Speaker 1: image because I know the real a car like I know,
Speaker 1: regardless it was violence involved, and I know that you
Speaker 1: ain't started. I know you never ground. But if a
Speaker 1: person violated, then your people had to do what they
Speaker 1: had to do. But does that ever affect business in
Speaker 1: any which affects business in a big way, you know,
Speaker 1: I think. I think anything negative like that that involves
Speaker 1: violence is it's gonna stop your money. That's just a period.
Speaker 1: But I think at the same time, when you get
Speaker 1: to a certain level and there seems to be a
Speaker 1: bigger influence towards real money, the protocols that be is
Speaker 1: going to actually try to keep you in a place
Speaker 1: where they can still control you. And I think now
Speaker 1: that you do it through the internet, and they do
Speaker 1: it through certain links and searches and so on and
Speaker 1: so forth, because most people don't go past that first
Speaker 1: page when they do searches, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to see what you're really doing that. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: why you gotta be careful what you do because every
Speaker 1: everything and every decision you make today is gonna fake
Speaker 1: you tomorrow and it always affects you when you're not
Speaker 1: even on that on that wave. That's not a reason
Speaker 1: why you heard that you did a big deal with
Speaker 1: China in terms of credit to help Africa m terms
Speaker 1: of getting a credit line. Is that true? I did
Speaker 1: a deal with China that has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: that though, saying like US credit line versus a Chinese
Speaker 1: credit line, um, that gets really deeper into politics. But
Speaker 1: I would, I would, I would probably say that there's
Speaker 1: a reason why it's happening because politically, politically, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of moves that's that's being made. And I'll probably
Speaker 1: announce him in a few well, you know, months to come.
Speaker 1: But you know, it all makes sense once once we start,
Speaker 1: you know, giving some information out. Yeah, as far as
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, we tried to, uh, you know, submit a
Speaker 1: proposal to be able to provide electricity for Porto Rico
Speaker 1: at the time, and and and our proposal was shut down.
Speaker 1: Now government, I mean they only want that, they only
Speaker 1: want that can make that decision. I mean politically in
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and all the same, you know. Okay, so
Speaker 1: guys say, this ain't gonna look the Republicans, but listen,
Speaker 1: but listen now. I had a big debate, right because
Speaker 1: a couple of the homies they said that Lady Gaga, Right,
Speaker 1: they said that Lady Gaga, you discover Lady Gaga because
Speaker 1: she was writing for you, right, But that's not what
Speaker 1: I heard. What I heard was you discovered Lady Gaga
Speaker 1: because he was writing for her. I don't know what
Speaker 1: is what or if you want to answer or whatever,
Speaker 1: but how did how did how did that happen? Well,
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga was the first artist sign to UM, well,
Speaker 1: first pop artist sign of brand. When I went to
Speaker 1: con I, it's is your label? Okay? Cool? So UM.
Speaker 1: To be very clear, I didn't discover her wow um.
Speaker 1: She was already signed that Interscope. When my deal was
Speaker 1: closed and Jimmy gave you boy. I went to Jimmy
Speaker 1: and said I need that because at the time they
Speaker 1: weren't moving on that because she wasn't the priority. So
Speaker 1: Jimmy played her music. No, no, I just went through
Speaker 1: all the demos. You saw the talent, and I mean
Speaker 1: I just closed my deal there, so you're saying you
Speaker 1: close that deal and you went and said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: listen to all your demos. I want to see what
Speaker 1: you've got in this building? What type of fucking like? What?
Speaker 1: Because think about it. When think about it, let's say,
Speaker 1: right now, you go to Universal, They've signed hundreds of
Speaker 1: artists that you don't even know is in that building.
Speaker 1: I ain't listening to not one of them, niggas demos.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest because I ain't. I'm a foul nigger.
Speaker 1: And this is how I looked at it. The labels
Speaker 1: have already they already investing hundreds of thousand dollars into
Speaker 1: these signs, these signings, some of them come sit there
Speaker 1: to three years, That's what was Yeah, sit there to
Speaker 1: three years and get dropped and never had no energy
Speaker 1: put into him. So I said, before I go out
Speaker 1: discovering new artists out there that no one cares about,
Speaker 1: never seen, let me go into the box of all
Speaker 1: the orders sitting in this building that they already put
Speaker 1: jam money into. You found out what I'm saying, which
Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world. But going through it,
Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't hear her because she was
Speaker 1: doing blues like type of you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just the look and everything didn't fit. And at the
Speaker 1: time I was writing for the Pussycat Dolls, and I
Speaker 1: had just signed a producer name Red One at the time.
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, I had the brightest block
Speaker 1: because I was right, He's not from He's from Morocco.
Speaker 1: He's from Morocco, Africa, from Africa. Yeah, So ultimately, man
Speaker 1: was right. I mean, I just couldn't come up. I
Speaker 1: was I had a writer block that day. I couldn't
Speaker 1: come up with nothing. So I needed some information. I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, get some girls here, get something crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, give me something that can spark some ideas.
Speaker 1: He said, well, I know somebody that you can you know,
Speaker 1: you can come rock with. It's Red One, And you know,
Speaker 1: he called Lady Gaga now and her name was Lady Gaga.
Speaker 1: At that's okay. Cool. So she walks into the studio.
Speaker 1: She walks in the studio, and then you are a con.
Speaker 1: This is already locked up, this is you're already lit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that you diamonds everywhere, you know. So ultimately,
Speaker 1: you know, we do the song. She's she goes in
Speaker 1: the booth and she's dem on your song out and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this bitch is a star. Now when
Speaker 1: you say you do the song she dem wing out,
Speaker 1: you're saying you laid the vocals and then she said
Speaker 1: your vocals over no, no, like we wrote the song,
Speaker 1: and she went in to demo without for it sounds well.
Speaker 1: I was reading for the Pussy Got Doors. So she
Speaker 1: came out the booth. I was like, yo, what's your situation? Like,
Speaker 1: are you signed? And she was like yeah. I said where,
Speaker 1: Like what building? She said, I mean in the school?
Speaker 1: I say, are you serious? She said yeah, I sound long.
Speaker 1: You've been there and she said about it, you donna
Speaker 1: have two years. I was like, oh, ship, well, let's
Speaker 1: you know, this works something out. She's like tell yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do it. So I called Jimmy. I see you, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I know exactly who I want to sign off the
Speaker 1: label A sad and I was like, he said who?
Speaker 1: I said, Lady Gaga. He's like really, I said yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. In his mind he's trying to figure out
Speaker 1: like what, like what is that? What kind of deal
Speaker 1: is that though she's already signed to the label, that
Speaker 1: who kind of deal is that? It's a joint venture,
Speaker 1: so it changes for her. Her numbers don't change, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Jimmy is like the numbers don't change. The only difference
Speaker 1: is Jimmy was split. He has to give to you
Speaker 1: because now you're investing in it exactly. But you're not
Speaker 1: investing money. You're investing whatever it is. You're not investing money.
Speaker 1: When you say you know, I'm taking over the project
Speaker 1: at that point, I'm you know, I'm doing all the music.
Speaker 1: Him adding yourself to the project is investing in it. No,
Speaker 1: he's Jimmy knows what I do. So Jimmy had no problem,
Speaker 1: you know, was saying, Okay, take that and put it
Speaker 1: under your umbrella and let's make this big. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Now, in any other system, they probably
Speaker 1: would have been like, do it as well, because they're
Speaker 1: either gonna do that or they're gonna end up dropping
Speaker 1: it because it's one of the list of things that
Speaker 1: there's no attention put on yet. And she was a
Speaker 1: kind of artist that was so creative it was hard
Speaker 1: to really figure out what that is because she had
Speaker 1: been through four or five labels before she even landed
Speaker 1: the Amuscope. So so, okay, you have this conversation with Jimmy,
Speaker 1: Jimmy gives you the green light that Now, now, what's
Speaker 1: the next step. After that next step, we spent three
Speaker 1: days in the studio and finished the album here and
Speaker 1: what studio we're at it was in Atlanta. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: did that whole album. We did her album and Tammy
Speaker 1: Chan's album all in the same month, sem rooms, same moon.
Speaker 1: Because after we finished gu Guy's album and we end
Speaker 1: up doing Tammy Chan's album, you kept with ging. I
Speaker 1: respect your high five. So now when we get into
Speaker 1: the writing process, But how did the writing process go? Uh?
Speaker 1: The writing process for me is really simple because after
Speaker 1: the beat is made, I go in there later melody
Speaker 1: and then I listened to the melody. Did not put
Speaker 1: the words to it? Now? Is that what hard as well? Yeah?
Speaker 1: With her, she's she she does pretty much the same thing. Um,
Speaker 1: I think the melody, uh, the way it was like
Speaker 1: she kind of adopted it from us because I think,
Speaker 1: you know, but she you know, she was she was
Speaker 1: already classical classically you know, treat comes again and everything
Speaker 1: like that. In my opinion, sorry to cut you off,
Speaker 1: my opinion, it felt like what you gave to her
Speaker 1: is the same exact thing what Ussher kind of gave
Speaker 1: to Justin Bieber. Like they got sold. But you know,
Speaker 1: like the sign that This is now what Justin gave
Speaker 1: to Justin, I mean us gave to Justin Bieber was
Speaker 1: co signed as far as credibility and a mentorship, right
Speaker 1: because someone could say that about yeah, like me, when
Speaker 1: when I get involved with artists, When I signed an
Speaker 1: artist on a label that's co sign is the last
Speaker 1: thing that I see as as as a as a
Speaker 1: you can say, as a an advantage for them, because
Speaker 1: we don't. We do beyond that. We we actually develop
Speaker 1: artists like we artistly develop them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And then after all that's done, I go on a
Speaker 1: road with them from radio station to radio station to
Speaker 1: me the DJ DJ like I put them through the
Speaker 1: same like the same process I went through. We jump in,
Speaker 1: but you go with them. Yeah, I'm there, I'm there
Speaker 1: and everybody out there in the business. No, when I
Speaker 1: signed an artist, but what does that turn into? You? Like? Now,
Speaker 1: when when when someone because we all know someone gets
Speaker 1: involved in someone's career and then it works, What is now?
Speaker 1: What does that look like now? The business situation between y'all,
Speaker 1: the relationship? What is that now? Oh no, that's just good,
Speaker 1: Like it's still the same business situation. No, it's not,
Speaker 1: it's not at all. Once she goes on, then yeah,
Speaker 1: because once she goes on, she's an own ball, she's
Speaker 1: our own person, you know, she makes own decisions. So
Speaker 1: how far along does that take to happen? That normally
Speaker 1: depends on the person. Depends on the person. You know,
Speaker 1: some artists after the first hit record, and some artists
Speaker 1: after five six albums, and some stay together for it
Speaker 1: all depends. And is it ever like bitter sweet in
Speaker 1: a sense? Is there a bad business? I don't think
Speaker 1: it's never really bitter sweet for me, you know, because
Speaker 1: I I do what to actually empower them to do
Speaker 1: it on their own. So you want that for your
Speaker 1: artist absolutely, I mean absolutely, because it's not every situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm developing artists for them to leave them. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: developed them to be free, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And because if you're looking at it from a monetary
Speaker 1: game standpoint or a financial game, you gain no matter what,
Speaker 1: because you're always going to be attached to the product,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I felt like when you
Speaker 1: was I mean, you said you went to the radio
Speaker 1: station with me as a DJ. At the time, it
Speaker 1: didn't seem like you were attached to the project, like
Speaker 1: I felt like the lady got beginning even like it
Speaker 1: felt like you felt back. You were letting her just
Speaker 1: be her and do her and then not seeing that.
Speaker 1: That's what the part you're talking about is letting the
Speaker 1: world know I was attached because I didn't want her
Speaker 1: to be painted no kind of way urban. You just
Speaker 1: wanted her to be her, Like yeah, because as a
Speaker 1: business person, I was like, the moment people know that
Speaker 1: she's with me, they're gonna give her the same shot
Speaker 1: and she's not going to get that business that I
Speaker 1: need her to get because otherwise a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: maiggas will be following her and she'd be like Pink
Speaker 1: selling a million records and trying to get out of
Speaker 1: that to do something different. So what happened, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: And I was in the bathroom with quick Um. So
Speaker 1: what I've been for the separation? Oh no, I just
Speaker 1: know we talked about that. Terms just expired. We talked okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: the terms expired, and know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: I was offered, you know, a buyout to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: if my share of the proc my part the change
Speaker 1: the sounds So there is a buyout though, what I
Speaker 1: want to That's what I'm trying to. Yeah, he's saying
Speaker 1: the buy that's on a businessman level. I want to know, like,
Speaker 1: how does that look? But when the artist goes on
Speaker 1: you know? No? No, I mean well it's if I didn't.
Speaker 1: If I didn't, you know, agree to the buyout, I'll
Speaker 1: still be attached business wise. But as an artist you
Speaker 1: kind of feel obligated to make an artist feel as
Speaker 1: a businessman, I raised the value so I can sell it.
Speaker 1: That's all there. Trying to hear this artist ship that
Speaker 1: you can say business it's not artist ship right now.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that so hard. So you
Speaker 1: guys made history. It's still cool. Oh yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: she's like mother's sister. Okay, would be on your Spanish albums.
Speaker 1: You have a Spanish album, Greek. Let me just say
Speaker 1: this South here listen, dog, so rich Man, I just
Speaker 1: look at me time I look over there and just
Speaker 1: look at richness man. Yeah, man, would you like to
Speaker 1: come out have to see you come out to see please? Please?
Speaker 1: That's listen. That's one guy right there. I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you I have so much respectful him because he signed
Speaker 1: you he's not like he's not. No. When I was
Speaker 1: at Universal, he was the president at Universe, all I
Speaker 1: was under here, what do you mean Universal? So I
Speaker 1: got that money as as many as much as he's
Speaker 1: a concert all the time. Sohow he just show me membership?
Speaker 1: I don't want When he was there first, he was first.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna yeah, you know he was, he was.
Speaker 1: He was one of those guys like he was. He
Speaker 1: understood how the corporate side worked and he also understood
Speaker 1: how the street side worked. That's why he was the
Speaker 1: perfect medium between the two sides, and he was able
Speaker 1: to create on the urban level impacts that most people
Speaker 1: could never impact. And most time you don't. People know
Speaker 1: the name but never seen his face. That's why he
Speaker 1: can't put him on camera. He like al Haman, Yeah
Speaker 1: that's exactly you know Alan, but you don't know how
Speaker 1: you know? You don't know him? Yeahs be like that's
Speaker 1: our human. I'd be like at because I got our
Speaker 1: human check once. Once I got one, and the game
Speaker 1: booked me again, I don't know what I did? You know? Embarrassing?
Speaker 1: Was that Chris fighting way right? No? I didn't try
Speaker 1: to that was not you that he was right, because
Speaker 1: so he says to me, No, that's what Jacob Watch
Speaker 1: is real popular. Right. Remember he says to me, he's
Speaker 1: sit in the road in front of me, so he's
Speaker 1: cracking jokes and ship when your Jacob Watch. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I said, motherfucker. I've brought Jacob with me
Speaker 1: translation for the audience. He's started on. He won. He
Speaker 1: is a good guy man. And you know what Pop
Speaker 1: said something the other day, and I would like to
Speaker 1: reiterate what he said because I want to look at
Speaker 1: good dog. I think of this man. I think IRV Gotti,
Speaker 1: I think of Dame Dashes, I think a BIGS, I
Speaker 1: think a whole and Pup said, there's so much limited
Speaker 1: Mark pitts um Chaws suit, there's so much limited black
Speaker 1: CEOs out there right now, and Puffs and plaint was
Speaker 1: that corporate America, hite America, whatever part of America you
Speaker 1: want to call it. It's not even investing or even
Speaker 1: trying to make more black CEOs happens. We got no idea.
Speaker 1: We got these certain peoples out there that's gonna be funded.
Speaker 1: It should be fundy, whether it's their own independent company
Speaker 1: or whether heading Sony or heading you know a depth, Jam,
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? I think it's happening
Speaker 1: because we ain't making it happen yet, who do you think?
Speaker 1: Who do you think making them billions? We're doing it,
Speaker 1: so you expect them to invest in us? Like why
Speaker 1: we can't invest in our own they think about it?
Speaker 1: Why we can't do it? But what I want to
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. But what pupp is saying is
Speaker 1: this is our industry, so so so the company is
Speaker 1: should be invested and to our people in this particular industry.
Speaker 1: So he's he's not saying, everybody start our own companies,
Speaker 1: which we can know. That's what he's saying. You know,
Speaker 1: def JAM should have Gotti running it should still be
Speaker 1: running University. Uh, you know, still we're wrong and so
Speaker 1: on and so forth. It's their company. Okay, that they built. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want that? Did he? How about we started our
Speaker 1: company that we build and we've become to see you.
Speaker 1: That's why revote right now. I got down because think
Speaker 1: about it, bro, Like the problem is nobody thinks tomorrow
Speaker 1: long term, universally in the company that was built yesterday
Speaker 1: last week. Let's come to damn it. Almost a hundred
Speaker 1: years old, bro, So we gotta think a hundred years tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And they funded by Vivendi, right, but even them, that's
Speaker 1: all European niggas on all the water in France. Well,
Speaker 1: how to funk you on the you know, one day
Speaker 1: smoking death jam all the time. Right today, you're the
Speaker 1: owner of Avendi's coming today. I said, word that Nigga's ill.
Speaker 1: What the Vendi said Nigga owned water water in France?
Speaker 1: I said, I'm put out my weed. They asked me
Speaker 1: to put the weed out. I was just like, I
Speaker 1: went too far. He's one of the shareholders of Ani
Speaker 1: and he's actually he owned a majority of the ports,
Speaker 1: you know, the ports on the water, all the shipping
Speaker 1: and all that come in the majority of his money
Speaker 1: come from Africa. And you know that I know him
Speaker 1: because you know him, Like yeah, I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: stop who, I gotta remember who I'm talking to? Brother Electricity.
Speaker 1: He did everything in the funk he had to do. Okay,
Speaker 1: So a com I got something, I got some question,
Speaker 1: God damnit. I I was ready for us a long time. Brother.
Speaker 1: If you got the lady guy, I got ship out
Speaker 1: of here. Okay. So now here's where we gotta go.
Speaker 1: I would like to say rest in piece of Screw. Um.
Speaker 1: I had never met Screw me personally, but I've been
Speaker 1: affected by Screws death because Capone and you guys somehow
Speaker 1: was was whatever. I don't know the story right, Me
Speaker 1: and Capone was actually not in good terms at that time.
Speaker 1: So but I remember how how much in the beginning
Speaker 1: when this first happened, how much you know Block Roy,
Speaker 1: They wherever I was at, people from Block Worrior there
Speaker 1: come to Yo and I'm looking, and there'll always be
Speaker 1: somebody like, no, it's not him. It screal ship like
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, it's not him. And I was
Speaker 1: just standing there and never be like I was like,
Speaker 1: but I understood because I had never met Screw, but
Speaker 1: understood how important he was. And then it's who me
Speaker 1: as a person, Who's who used my intelligence? I went studies,
Speaker 1: So I went and that was probably one of the
Speaker 1: most genuine enough I've never met him, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying from what I've researched, probably um one of the
Speaker 1: most straight up that I'm down on, the most realistic people. So,
Speaker 1: how did you even meet Screw? Yeah? They don't make
Speaker 1: him like him no more. I've met him when I
Speaker 1: moved to Jersey, Okay, you know, um, he was actually
Speaker 1: the one that uh kind of mentored me because he's
Speaker 1: like a big brother to me. And then he introduced
Speaker 1: me to the whole you know, crue that ball with
Speaker 1: the balling posse at the time before Block Royal had
Speaker 1: even existed. And that's how that whole concept came about.
Speaker 1: Because we was like worthy on our own, block was
Speaker 1: wanted and that's how it all, know, the whole concept
Speaker 1: came about. But he was He was clearly a leader though,
Speaker 1: that's for sure, you know what I'm saying. So, and
Speaker 1: everybody looked up to him in a big way because
Speaker 1: he was he was the person that there was a problem,
Speaker 1: they would call him to you know, put both sides
Speaker 1: together and pieces together. That's why they called him to
Speaker 1: screw because he was, oh everything together. Puerto Rican that
Speaker 1: can go squap exactly what he Blacks and Puerto Ricans.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew him. So when there was a problem, they're
Speaker 1: called school, they're like out of respect him. He'd be like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, we're talking to chopping up. And he
Speaker 1: always put you know, put people together. That's that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's that was his thing. Problem. So do you know that?
Speaker 1: Do you know the actual story of yeah? So, which
Speaker 1: you because I don't know. So it was me, Screw
Speaker 1: and Capone. We were all hanging out that day because
Speaker 1: the whole week moves together, the whole week, you know.
Speaker 1: And then um so I was leaving me, me and
Speaker 1: school was leaving out to go to the Bahamas that
Speaker 1: day that happened. So me, you know, we was coming
Speaker 1: from New York from school. Campone, this is after locked up,
Speaker 1: this is Acon is Acon, Acon is not like you're
Speaker 1: not coming up, You're on your way. Yeah, I'm on
Speaker 1: my way. So you know, he was like, yo, we're
Speaker 1: heading to the Bahamas. Everything was going good. We did.
Speaker 1: We do this thing every weekend at the ring side,
Speaker 1: ring side, you still do. I just you know we
Speaker 1: sent picture with you and Snoop Dogg at ringside. That true.
Speaker 1: So Mario is the guy that Mario, he's like godfather.
Speaker 1: Now okay, right, you see my research. I'm good at
Speaker 1: my job. Coming Yeah. So ultimately, you know, so we
Speaker 1: invited Capone like, yo, man, you gotta come out with us.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna have what's campone? Eventually supposed to
Speaker 1: sign to or I was thinking about commit school was actually,
Speaker 1: you know, it's my brother, so everything he was doing together.
Speaker 1: So the whole idea was, you know, the Block Royal
Speaker 1: would be the music. Well it was Convict was already
Speaker 1: in place, but Block Royal was something. We want to
Speaker 1: do it for the community, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And more so anything we want to make it more,
Speaker 1: keep it latin. You know, comic music be the black side.
Speaker 1: Block roils the Latin side because it was different music,
Speaker 1: different genre, different, you know what I'm saying. So ultimately,
Speaker 1: you know, we we went up and had the comedy show.
Speaker 1: Everybody had a great time. Now I had to go
Speaker 1: back to my hotel to get grab my bags and
Speaker 1: everything because we're leaving out that morning. So as I'm saying, okay,
Speaker 1: we don'ta gonna pull out, we're getting the call. We
Speaker 1: start pulling in. They're still in the um in the
Speaker 1: in the comedy center. Everything. Let's out capone and everybody's
Speaker 1: downstairs chilling. N It's about to close out, but not quite.
Speaker 1: Everybody's out front. The pone was about to pull out.
Speaker 1: So schools like all right, were cool. Let me just
Speaker 1: make you walk into the car and make sure everything
Speaker 1: is all good. As the phone was moving out, he
Speaker 1: we went to look. We went a little here to
Speaker 1: Screw because there was a conversation happening. And as Capone
Speaker 1: was coming out, somebody jammed him to against the door
Speaker 1: with a gun, trying to rob for his chain. School
Speaker 1: noticed that dude was trying to get at him, so
Speaker 1: he rushed out to the front and caught dude. Didn't
Speaker 1: act as he was robbing Capone. Now you're not dead,
Speaker 1: but this is what you're here, you know, it's robbing Capone.
Speaker 1: So Screw stepped the front, grabbed the dude you know
Speaker 1: with the gun, and snuffed him. As he snuffed the moves,
Speaker 1: everything was going on, moving around and going on. Everybody
Speaker 1: came out realized, okay, was does a fight? They all
Speaker 1: go jumping and everything else, and Screw was on top
Speaker 1: of him just punching him, punching him, punching him. Next
Speaker 1: thing you know, he just fell on him and he
Speaker 1: was like, why everybody jumping? Anybody going on? So you
Speaker 1: signed out because of all the commotional was going when
Speaker 1: when the Screw grabbed him punch dude, the gun went off. Wait,
Speaker 1: so the guy on the floor. Um shot shot him, Well,
Speaker 1: the guns off at he was snatching the gun to
Speaker 1: hit him. Understand, you're saying that, you know the guy's
Speaker 1: partner because on one point at you, So the guy's
Speaker 1: pointing at him, School grabs him and then in a
Speaker 1: mix of all that happening, okay, schools on top of
Speaker 1: him punching him. Now, so they're not thinking that nobody
Speaker 1: got shot. He's not even know when he got hit.
Speaker 1: You following when when it went off. So when he
Speaker 1: fell on him, that's when they realized, oh ship, he's
Speaker 1: actually hit. You find what I'm saying. So as they
Speaker 1: was rushing him to the hospital, he got there safely.
Speaker 1: But then by the time he got there, by the
Speaker 1: time I got to the hospital, yea God, blessed God
Speaker 1: bless and um because the reason how I heard about
Speaker 1: it was paper and Jersey had wrote about it. And
Speaker 1: when they wrote about it, they said nor Hea and
Speaker 1: I was like, what the because they couldn't tell y'are
Speaker 1: too part of the time, you know, So I was
Speaker 1: like what because I kept calling him no, like you
Speaker 1: I know, you just remember Noriega? What what? What? What? Remember?
Speaker 1: But first off, everybody, please right now, I would like
Speaker 1: to have a moment of silence. Screw so everybody. It
Speaker 1: was three or four seconds? God bless man. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never, like I said, I never met the homie
Speaker 1: every every quarter weekend nigger I ever met that knows him.
Speaker 1: They sit up to him like, and I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: I appreciate I appreciate you keeping his memory alive. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate you keeping black warrior people around you, like
Speaker 1: because it's an honorable thing to do. Because the level
Speaker 1: you're at, you don't have to keep ties with anybody.
Speaker 1: I mean you don't have to. You should, but you
Speaker 1: don't have to. But the fact that you do shows
Speaker 1: how honorable you are, and I have to respect that.
Speaker 1: I got a couple more questions than we are. You are?
Speaker 1: You got one? E oh you were okay, because what
Speaker 1: you got I got I'm going, well, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going is different. So you are married human, but go
Speaker 1: there just yet. But you got like nine though, right,
Speaker 1: that's hard. That number is inflated. It's inflated. That's four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got more than one. I can go. I can
Speaker 1: go that far, okay, but I can't go deep into
Speaker 1: it just yet. Okay, So you multiple wives. That's hard.
Speaker 1: And now now in order for me to do that,
Speaker 1: I gotta be Muslim. I gotta take much Huh. You
Speaker 1: could be Mormon. Mormon, No, I can't be woman. The
Speaker 1: niggas gonna watch TV. I need my TV. Come on,
Speaker 1: Muslim even not. You can actually be Christian too, it's
Speaker 1: in wait, wait, tell me tell me the body because scared.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely scared. Definitely you can do it, all right,
Speaker 1: So so alright, explain to the normal nigga that's scared
Speaker 1: that you can have you can have Keisha and if
Speaker 1: you wanted to, I need you to dixplain it. He's like,
Speaker 1: it's not that like in Africa is a tradition, So
Speaker 1: isn't just a different African That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: I got to be a student right now. I'm a
Speaker 1: therapy class. How did you pull us off? Sir? But
Speaker 1: it's not really nothing you pull off? Like think about
Speaker 1: look at the average person to day. Right, you got
Speaker 1: your main girl, your side piece. Listen, listen, I hear
Speaker 1: all that talking, mistress. I'm just saying, I don't know
Speaker 1: how y'all title them, how y'all say it. But if
Speaker 1: you go down we are going down jack, see no
Speaker 1: real talk. Okay, this may not apply to you or
Speaker 1: my brother, oh or whoever else that it may not
Speaker 1: apply to, But the average guy has his main chick,
Speaker 1: side piece or mistress, jump off and whatever else knew
Speaker 1: that come about. It could be a one night stand,
Speaker 1: it could be somebody you meet the club, whatever the case.
Speaker 1: Maybe now at the end of the day, we can
Speaker 1: say that that your girl don't know what you're doing
Speaker 1: or don't know what's happening, but she knows you better
Speaker 1: than you know yourself. You know what the hell you're
Speaker 1: out there doing, bro, she just don't call you out
Speaker 1: on it. And women have this tendency of well, it's
Speaker 1: actually natural. If you tell her that this is what
Speaker 1: it is, she builds and starts to structure her life
Speaker 1: around what you tell her. Coughing back there, it's just
Speaker 1: one of So that's how women do because they're very
Speaker 1: emotional creatures. So they're gonna build their life around you
Speaker 1: and what makes you happy, and not only that, but
Speaker 1: what makes you comfortable. So if you tell look, baby,
Speaker 1: this is what it is in my life, this is
Speaker 1: how it is, she builds her life around that. Now,
Speaker 1: So now imagine being a person that caters. You're the
Speaker 1: whole way of existence, around the way you live, and
Speaker 1: then one day finds out that everything you can tell
Speaker 1: her is a lie. So now she just structured her
Speaker 1: whole life around the line. What did she do then?
Speaker 1: I mean, every woman is different how they react to it.
Speaker 1: It depends on the woman, but they're gonna react. My
Speaker 1: approach is just totally different. I'll keep it all the
Speaker 1: way one tell them from beginning. I'm married, I got
Speaker 1: not another motherfucker's straight up, and we're gonna fuck and
Speaker 1: you might be my temper credit cards. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I said it in the Norry way,
Speaker 1: but like in the acorn way. Is like, is this similar?
Speaker 1: Like you listen, baby, you can't be there prize when
Speaker 1: and you're getting it. It's not like you like you're
Speaker 1: approaching it from a pimp. No, I don't want to
Speaker 1: trying to be a pimp for a week. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out. I didn't didn't work out for me. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a band. Yeah, so it's nice. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's put this way. It's as simplest this. Let's say
Speaker 1: you're married, I am oh we're not trying to trying
Speaker 1: to look good in front of his wife. And so
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that makes you look guilty. You
Speaker 1: don't have to try hard if you're person If you don't,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Can I tell you something, I'm your good husband.
Speaker 1: You gotta wave the white flag. That's very true. I
Speaker 1: don't got to do that. That's very true. That's very true.
Speaker 1: Good right. You better you want to claim that too.
Speaker 1: I'm claiming that. Let's say the average guy, it's taken right,
Speaker 1: and he meets a girl, and the girl that he's with,
Speaker 1: now that he's taken with, he's already had a conversation saying, listen,
Speaker 1: this is my way of life. This is a tradition. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm planning on marrying you, but I'm entitled to happen one, two,
Speaker 1: or three or four wives. All right now, you explain
Speaker 1: that to number one from day one. If she's cool
Speaker 1: with that, and that's you. If she ain't cool with that,
Speaker 1: then she's not the wife for you. If that's what
Speaker 1: you plan to do. Now, on a woman standpoint, this
Speaker 1: is what happens. Two things happen. First of all, you
Speaker 1: keep it real with her, so she keeps that respectful
Speaker 1: you because you didn't lie to her. You told her
Speaker 1: exactly what you feel and what she's getting into. And
Speaker 1: number two, now she can prepare herself mentally to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what if I deal with Nori and this
Speaker 1: is what he wants, is this something that I want
Speaker 1: in my life? You find what I'm saying. Now, she
Speaker 1: can make that decision because you gave her the option
Speaker 1: to make that decision. Okay, but have you ever made
Speaker 1: a bad bitch where you're like, yo yo was something
Speaker 1: baby yam trying to give like and then you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't want no nigga with a wife, and you
Speaker 1: just lied for that moment, he was like, I ain't
Speaker 1: got no visit never come on never bro never never.
Speaker 1: He wasn't in Mexico one, I ain't no listen never.
Speaker 1: Oh Ma, you know this before I was who I was,
Speaker 1: So you know this. So what I'm saying is at
Speaker 1: the end of it, too, you look like you're taking
Speaker 1: bitches down still fill to this death. I've seen if
Speaker 1: that happens, I tell a straight up look, look it's
Speaker 1: right now. I don't even try to hide that. I
Speaker 1: let him know straight up I'm married and like this
Speaker 1: amount of kids and they come first, how many kids enough?
Speaker 1: I got six and impossible. I don't know what other
Speaker 1: nigga is the possible man I got, I got a
Speaker 1: running around there, I got a space. I'm sorry, and
Speaker 1: what's saying I mean at that point, if it all
Speaker 1: fails you, I can always just to be friends. But
Speaker 1: if a woman know what you'd get into. Bro in
Speaker 1: the problem. We were just in the club just the
Speaker 1: other day, brother and re knowing what everybody already know.
Speaker 1: The chicks came to me ask him to be a wife.
Speaker 1: She introduced herself to me as his next wife, like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm your brother's next wife. I'm like, you didn't even
Speaker 1: met you yet, Yeah, that's all. And then then she
Speaker 1: went to him like, hello, I'm your new wife and
Speaker 1: let her she let him know that she dude, that's
Speaker 1: a regular. Dude, an't communicate that. You followed like, if
Speaker 1: I already communicated that, this woman comes to me already
Speaker 1: knowing what it is, now you haven't communicated that. So
Speaker 1: she's coming to you knowing what it is to her.
Speaker 1: You know, you know his girl, you know his girl
Speaker 1: was in Big pim My Girl. Bro, like his girl
Speaker 1: let me a friend from like high school yesterday his girl. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: his girl is a big video. His girl is in
Speaker 1: my gade. You look and videos, that's all you're making
Speaker 1: up videos? Now you know a grape fine stories. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker takes it to the level. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: in a major little video, wasn't there's only due to that. Listen,
Speaker 1: listen a car, I want you to answer and bro,
Speaker 1: bro listen up. I want you to let me know
Speaker 1: he was listening to hear his story. But then there's
Speaker 1: a real story. I listen. I want you to tell
Speaker 1: me if my friend is petty or not. His name
Speaker 1: is DJ, he's my brother. He's in my story. Makes
Speaker 1: some noise for him. God, what but his girl went
Speaker 1: to big payment video. A real girl hates that. You
Speaker 1: bring the story up all the um and then she
Speaker 1: went to video and then he never out both videos.
Speaker 1: Was no, no, this is my story. I'll let you
Speaker 1: tell you a story that. Now, if your girl went
Speaker 1: to a big pimp and video to say a girl
Speaker 1: she's inspiring to be a model, would come off a
Speaker 1: girl inspiring to be a model, inspired to be a
Speaker 1: model and goes to I'm not gonna lie. Don't listen
Speaker 1: to inspiring to be a model. I worked for the
Speaker 1: casting company. So what she was doing in the video
Speaker 1: making them to be inspiring model the way you just
Speaker 1: trying a business model together right shot out the casting
Speaker 1: by country. That was funny but alright cool, especially in
Speaker 1: that era of hip hop. Yes, models don't exist in casting.
Speaker 1: Like you said, you knocked down a lot of models.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is I was trying to
Speaker 1: go there. You know what he's going on. What I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is music videos were never made for models.
Speaker 1: So if you're trying to be an inspiring model, the
Speaker 1: video scene is not where you're gonna be that because,
Speaker 1: first of all, if you've been in the video, agencies
Speaker 1: ain't even gonna accept you because they just they never
Speaker 1: at that time, especially they didn't look at hip hop
Speaker 1: videos as something classy to looking at it with something ratchet.
Speaker 1: He pleaded my cane for him. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But the video models popping, I mean, it all depends.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm gonna try. He almost he almost, and
Speaker 1: so um you said you said the video of okay,
Speaker 1: so now, but he was wrong for cutting off of
Speaker 1: being and I didn't cut her off. He did the
Speaker 1: right thing when he hold on what was the first
Speaker 1: video she was in the song, song, song song? If
Speaker 1: she was just a song? Did he do the right
Speaker 1: thing about coming? He did the right thing, bro this Wally.
Speaker 1: There's a longer list of videos like who you're talking about?
Speaker 1: She was long song. Ain't even no threat? Why threatcause
Speaker 1: he's going trying to knock down their hands and all
Speaker 1: trying to knock it down because anything back. There's a
Speaker 1: good guy. I thought she wasn't one of your videos
Speaker 1: and the joint they never came out, the John Roo joint.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live my life. She was there was a
Speaker 1: good guy. But y'all niggas. Man, My woman talked about
Speaker 1: she coming to you. What are you'all? Man? Now, I
Speaker 1: ain't got right now. If your woman tells you swing
Speaker 1: to my video right now, she's safe. Yeah, I mean man,
Speaker 1: by Anna, listen, your ring is the biggest. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: in the same boat. But you got eight of them though,
Speaker 1: my nigger, I got one. But I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I know, I know you're doing something good because I
Speaker 1: can't do it. Man. Eight or whatever you got. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how many of you got that ship is
Speaker 1: you got more than one, and you're and you've got
Speaker 1: great hairs. Why are you gonna got great hairs? I
Speaker 1: don't know, bro, So I just communication, man, dope, it's communication.
Speaker 1: But the hardest part is the time spending too. That's
Speaker 1: the hardest part. The hardest part, honestly putting the time in.
Speaker 1: So what does a corn do on the date? What
Speaker 1: do you do? You go the roller skame rings? You
Speaker 1: mean for fun? Yeah? I go to movies, movies. What's
Speaker 1: the last movie you saw? Uh? I ain't been the
Speaker 1: movies in a Minutely the ladies is listening, like I've
Speaker 1: been working so hard, man, I don't even So what
Speaker 1: do you do for fun? What is the fun day
Speaker 1: for the studio? Honestly? No, man, you can't do no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no answer like me. That's exactly. But but everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I only got one of them women, so that's cool.
Speaker 1: But what do you you gotta satisfy? All right? So,
Speaker 1: now one of your wass we don't know how many
Speaker 1: wives we got, We don't care. We just know you
Speaker 1: got locked one of your whiles come to you and
Speaker 1: say baby would like to spend a day with you.
Speaker 1: What is your plan? Take it from there. I would
Speaker 1: tell you to make the plan. You would tell them
Speaker 1: to make the plan. Okay, so now they got more
Speaker 1: time to think about they do great. I mean when
Speaker 1: we do things, ain't very much we could do right.
Speaker 1: We don't do much because you can't really walk through
Speaker 1: the park because they can't walk like they know all
Speaker 1: the fun stuff to do right. You can't go to
Speaker 1: no noble by yourself, No, yeah, everybody noble. You could
Speaker 1: go to normal by yourself. What's noble? Though New York?
Speaker 1: I ain't never been a noble. You ain't never been
Speaker 1: a Come on, you've never been a noble? What is noble? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck? I don't even know
Speaker 1: if don't even know who I've ever been to? Was
Speaker 1: the one in the UK, but not in the States.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to the one. Amalapo brother ain't been one,
Speaker 1: you know what. I take that back, I didn't go to.
Speaker 1: That's a new one, the one near the Yeah, goddamn
Speaker 1: five five, you're listen. That's I gotta get used to
Speaker 1: the high five that's hanging around white boys a long time.
Speaker 1: Many a little crazy, but you have ain't a no.
Speaker 1: But that's that's that's a good thing. Nobles was never
Speaker 1: really um like an industry restaurant type of dude. That's
Speaker 1: why you never seen me in the restaurant. Food is bland,
Speaker 1: The service is mad. Little I like, I like like
Speaker 1: a hole in the wall. Got to like soul food Western. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's find me in the hood for food. So let's
Speaker 1: let's describe one of your favorite hood foods. Because you
Speaker 1: know I got a food show as well. Let's describe
Speaker 1: one of your favorite hood food shops. Oh Man Island
Speaker 1: Cafe in Atlanta. I'm more Dry Island Cafe. Bro Listen
Speaker 1: to me. I don't care what where you ever ate
Speaker 1: Western Indian food. You ain't gonna find no place bigger,
Speaker 1: better than Cafe Island Cafe. Have you eight ever a
Speaker 1: famous fish or hunting forty Fish Street and St. Nicholas
Speaker 1: in Harlem? No, I don't think so. I might have done.
Speaker 1: I might have done. What kind of spot is it?
Speaker 1: It's fry fish. If it's fry fish, I ain't been
Speaker 1: in the oh. You don't fry fish, not since high school?
Speaker 1: Why what happened your girlfriend? Everybody everybody big in the
Speaker 1: world of fry fish white down. It's not even when
Speaker 1: when you start experiencing other types of fishes. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: This is different because Prophecy, when you start that a
Speaker 1: flavoring fried fish until you put some hot sauce on it.
Speaker 1: Whereas when you start eating like this, Nigga, this coming
Speaker 1: out of him like hell. St. Louis, that's Louis, right,
Speaker 1: Nigga said, you ain't even tasting the teap of hoss
Speaker 1: Jesus you are dirty more right now? Yo? But um
Speaker 1: okay boom so locked up we already covered that. No,
Speaker 1: we did not. This is your introduction to the industry lot.
Speaker 1: They won't let me out. I know I can't sing.
Speaker 1: I apologize, but you understand my passion. Locked up comes
Speaker 1: out now. You said he was born in St. Louis,
Speaker 1: so you're actually not the emigrants that yeah, um, that's
Speaker 1: going through this immigration ship right now. But you could
Speaker 1: have easily been born in Senegal, but you went back
Speaker 1: to Senegal, right you were just born and coming back
Speaker 1: you are like so locked up. If you would have
Speaker 1: been born in Senegal two days before came to St.
Speaker 1: Louis and then went and got locked up, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: even be here. Possibly not. So how do you one,
Speaker 1: how do you feel like about the you know, the
Speaker 1: immigration ship. That's it's horrible. That's horrible, bro. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what to say about it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's just in human to me. I was never
Speaker 1: a kind of person that liked anything like gates, barriers
Speaker 1: or you know, borders anyway, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just feel like the earth was built for us
Speaker 1: to roam through it like this should never should be
Speaker 1: like orderline where you can go on Earth. And I'm
Speaker 1: talking about you reside in the States right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you ever feel like everything going on right now
Speaker 1: to like lift somewhere else another country? Um? I mean
Speaker 1: I got places in other countries, but I prefer to
Speaker 1: be in the States. Yeah. If I had to make
Speaker 1: a choice between living in Africa and living in the States,
Speaker 1: I would chose Africa. Get the funk out there. We're
Speaker 1: part of Africa, Senegal Synegal ship. Really like that, It's amazing.
Speaker 1: It got like a Miami type of place. I'm man,
Speaker 1: we're right, what's my money about it? Yeah? You go
Speaker 1: to cork Bird all this right next door to each
Speaker 1: other and beautiful. It's me. It's like, it's like, okay, oh,
Speaker 1: that's where k Verdians comes out. Oh wow, that's where
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's where all Boston is from major Rhode Islands.
Speaker 1: It's from there. Your triers over there too, and Adria.
Speaker 1: Goddamn it sounds very exotic. So so now locked up
Speaker 1: so this song comes out now it's inspired from you
Speaker 1: being locked up? Where at what time? Um? What do
Speaker 1: you mean? Like when yeah, I got locked up in
Speaker 1: around eight I got locked up a nine in r
Speaker 1: E album. I was shining at that time, so sorry,
Speaker 1: so sorry, what you listening to my album in jail
Speaker 1: because she was lit I got out? Okay, So locked up,
Speaker 1: you come home, You come Home? That s r C. Correct.
Speaker 1: This is Steve Ripkin, which is my boy Steve for
Speaker 1: Loud Music Formal Love Music. So how does this connection
Speaker 1: come out for Locked Up to even come out? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: when I got out, I was I was at the crib,
Speaker 1: just kind of just in the studio, Ary City. I
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta, okay, and then um no gas station
Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, so, uh, Divine was shopping five
Speaker 1: songs that I just recorded. Who divine. Yeah. So ultimately
Speaker 1: what happened was we had got office from like four
Speaker 1: or five labels, and Steve Rifkin was brought to our attention.
Speaker 1: UM to a friend of ours I name Bernard Alexander
Speaker 1: said that but at the time Steve Brook never had
Speaker 1: anything R and B. Is that correct? I wasn't quite
Speaker 1: sure what what what is? I didn't even know who
Speaker 1: Steve Rippin was at that time, but he was coming
Speaker 1: all those guys, big pun big um. So at the times, um,
Speaker 1: it was literally a little the hood like we lived
Speaker 1: in Atlanta where I was staying at the time. We
Speaker 1: was like in a little si in the Senator hood.
Speaker 1: But we had like a huge mansion right in the
Speaker 1: middle of the hood. And I was upstairs and the
Speaker 1: vine was like, yo, man, you know, we gotta exact
Speaker 1: that's gonna come by and you know, meet you, you
Speaker 1: want to meet you. So I wasn't show from what label?
Speaker 1: Who you know? And then I looked outside and I see,
Speaker 1: you know, these two white guys coming to the door
Speaker 1: with T shirts and jeans and one who huh Steve
Speaker 1: who it was? I don't know, I don't know who
Speaker 1: the two guys d no you know what rich Isaacson
Speaker 1: I think was one of them at the time, I
Speaker 1: think he was one of the other one was a
Speaker 1: security some Russian security dude, but I thought he was
Speaker 1: the fair. So I ran through the back door way
Speaker 1: coming to sign you what kind of life is living? Jesus? Okay, okay, right,
Speaker 1: so now then a little room away to bud like
Speaker 1: what else? Card come back, come and find out. I
Speaker 1: dipped out the back though, so he gonna find me.
Speaker 1: I'm at the park, like and then you get over here.
Speaker 1: But I said exactly, I was telling you about like
Speaker 1: oh ship. So I come back through the front though,
Speaker 1: and I see Steve Rifkin, you know, and you don't
Speaker 1: down the earth though, you know, mad cool He comes,
Speaker 1: he said, listen, I know you got other offers on
Speaker 1: the table, he said. I'm you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: any money. I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't
Speaker 1: have enough. I don't have the kind of money he said.
Speaker 1: But I can't tell you is that if you signed
Speaker 1: with me, I'm gonna hold you down and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do everything in my power to make sure I'll make
Speaker 1: you a start, no matter what, whatever sacrifice I need
Speaker 1: to make I'm gonna make it. Wow. And what drew
Speaker 1: me to Steve was the fact, first of all, he
Speaker 1: came to my house in the hood when nobody will
Speaker 1: show up in that area. That was four for So
Speaker 1: for him to come that far and take the first
Speaker 1: flight out after hearing the records and come to me,
Speaker 1: that was worth more than any kind of money anybody.
Speaker 1: But how did you guys even getting him the records?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it was sent to him. It was it was,
Speaker 1: you know, the records was sent to him. But y'all
Speaker 1: mad him somewhere or something or we had never met
Speaker 1: until we all sending records out to labels. No, Bernard
Speaker 1: Bernard came and took my records. Oh you know, the
Speaker 1: Bernard came and took my records and he went around,
Speaker 1: you know, shopping him and um, he got I think
Speaker 1: he connected with a guy at the time. It was
Speaker 1: Kenny Burns. Wow. And Kenny Burns was the one that
Speaker 1: took the record to Steve Rifkin. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got you got a matter of fact, I'll take
Speaker 1: that back. Um, you know it was it was, it was,
Speaker 1: I was, I was Isaac. Yeah. And then um, when
Speaker 1: when we got when he was on three Way, Kenny
Speaker 1: was on the other side, Like I told you, nig
Speaker 1: I'll tell you Nigga, I totally you know he's one,
Speaker 1: But yeah, Kenny, Kenny definitely was the one that passed
Speaker 1: over to Steve before Steve came out there. But it
Speaker 1: was more about, you know, I knew at that moment
Speaker 1: that I can build something with this with this guy
Speaker 1: I'm Steve. That's when I knew I can build something
Speaker 1: big with him because it was about his passion for
Speaker 1: what I did and its willingness to be down no
Speaker 1: matter what, and that meant more to me anything, especially
Speaker 1: with that mentality street retality at that time. So when
Speaker 1: you think about the word lonely, it's the first thing
Speaker 1: that comes to your mind. The cab county that's selling
Speaker 1: her jail. Is that a jail? That's why, that's that's
Speaker 1: why I wrote the song. I did not know that
Speaker 1: smoke some morely, I had no idea, but I had
Speaker 1: locked up and lonely next to each other, had no idea,
Speaker 1: So Lonely it was locked up in the jail. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That whole first album, majority of it, every song in
Speaker 1: there was wrote in jail. Except Trouble Nobody Wow, because
Speaker 1: I wrote like Don't and the reason why like Ghetto
Speaker 1: was written there. I mean, all the songs except Trouble Nobody.
Speaker 1: Trouble Nobody was only song off that album that I
Speaker 1: didn't write while I was locked up, and I wrote
Speaker 1: that after I left court. I got out of court,
Speaker 1: and I wrote that one because George told me not
Speaker 1: the trump of nobody Wow? So um, you come home?
Speaker 1: What makes you want to keep these songs? Not? Right?
Speaker 1: All new material? I wouldn't know how to write new
Speaker 1: material because all my songs based on my experiences. So
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to not talk about what I
Speaker 1: was already going through, first of all, because I was
Speaker 1: surrounded by it, Like I was being drowned by everything
Speaker 1: that I'm going through anyway, So I couldn't even think
Speaker 1: outside of what I was dealing with to even make
Speaker 1: up a story or make up uh, you know, a
Speaker 1: song for that matter. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that experience actually became the content in which I wrote about.
Speaker 1: Before you were any were you are already an aspiring artist.
Speaker 1: Before I was in I was and hustling. I think
Speaker 1: the me music it was more of like uh uh,
Speaker 1: a way of kind of event, you know, event kind
Speaker 1: of platform for me like that, because I didn't really
Speaker 1: talk too many people about my problems. So whenebody was
Speaker 1: going through, somebody just read about it. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: music is more like a hobby for me at that time.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be some about utilized as
Speaker 1: a career. Okay, Um, now, invest in Africa. No, we
Speaker 1: touched on a little bit earlier. I like to go
Speaker 1: a little bit more deeper than debt watching watching me
Speaker 1: invested in Africa. I know, Washington, we should invest in Africa, Africa,
Speaker 1: but I would like for us to tell the masters
Speaker 1: that the whole world, well this, this is what I
Speaker 1: can't tell you. I know a lot of times we
Speaker 1: we have the tendency to blame the white man for
Speaker 1: everything that's going wrong, right, and white man is fucked up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's how I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: the majority of African Americans in America. Film. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not saying nothing that everybody don't feel nothing. That
Speaker 1: may not mean that don't necessarily mean it's true. But
Speaker 1: with the circumstances that surround us, that's why we believe
Speaker 1: that way you know. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it was like, if you are in a position in
Speaker 1: life where you feel like you don't own your own content,
Speaker 1: you own anything, and they should be investing in us.
Speaker 1: This is the opportunity now to be able to own
Speaker 1: that in which we're complaining about. Because in Africa, it's
Speaker 1: a clean slate. You can build that empire there, you
Speaker 1: can build that infrastructure there. It's just and you already
Speaker 1: got there. You know the information, you already educated on
Speaker 1: how to do it, because we've done it here and
Speaker 1: made billions of dollars for corporations all day. Africa is
Speaker 1: the only place in the world where black people can
Speaker 1: go and build fortune five hundred companies from scratch within
Speaker 1: five years. No, seriously, and this took them hundreds of
Speaker 1: years to build. You can build it now within five years.
Speaker 1: China took that same you know mind state only five
Speaker 1: years ago. China was no different from Africa twenty five
Speaker 1: years ago. Go to China. Now, look at Dubai, the
Speaker 1: Middle East. They just started fifteen years ago. And I'm
Speaker 1: kind of me We're just gonna be one of the
Speaker 1: say I understand what you exactly mean. So you're saying
Speaker 1: that Africa right now? So how how could Africa be
Speaker 1: to New China? How can we say that? People, Yes,
Speaker 1: go back to Africa. Whatever you're doing here, do it there.
Speaker 1: So the state, entertainment, education, sneaker company, whatever clothing line,
Speaker 1: whatever started there, do it there. You don't even start it,
Speaker 1: do it there. It's gonna grow out of there anyway.
Speaker 1: But Africa's big enough you won't ever have to need
Speaker 1: no other country anyway. Think about it, everything you do
Speaker 1: to Africa. Africa's the second biggest country in the world.
Speaker 1: It's over a billion people. Who Who's who's the biggest
Speaker 1: continent Europe? Who's the biggest continent? Asia? The biggest continent Asia?
Speaker 1: And that's China, Korea, it's India, all of them put
Speaker 1: together though, that makes Asian, and it's not that much
Speaker 1: bigger than Africa, and Africa the second biggest continent with
Speaker 1: more natural resource, with all the natural resources, that's the difference.
Speaker 1: So we got we gotta literally got a pot of gold,
Speaker 1: and nobody even going forward. So how do we start this?
Speaker 1: How do we start How do we start to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's invest back in the motherland. I
Speaker 1: think the keys, you know, first of all, you got
Speaker 1: to release the fear because a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: African Americans are afraid to go to Africa. Because I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, but I mean, I was off so
Speaker 1: many shows to Africa. I'm gonna be honest, and then
Speaker 1: they told me I'm gonna get shots, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm good. And I've never actually been in Africa because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get the shots. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know they injecting ship in me. But I
Speaker 1: was scared. This is back in the day. That's why
Speaker 1: I said, gott to release the fear. The fear you
Speaker 1: have to because first of all, only white people need
Speaker 1: shots to go to Africa. Black people don't need no
Speaker 1: shots to go to Africa. But why why is that
Speaker 1: even the room one that you need shots to go to.
Speaker 1: It's the same way they told you Aid started that
Speaker 1: Africa you can die from malaria. They're telling you all
Speaker 1: this stuff, none of stuff. You know, they'll tell you
Speaker 1: what you go to Africa, take you know, shots, you
Speaker 1: gotta take like five or six different, you know, types
Speaker 1: of shots to save you from this, save me from that.
Speaker 1: Why does that rumor even exist? Though? I mean, hope
Speaker 1: because they know the value of black people going back home.
Speaker 1: Can you just imagine if African Americans in America decided,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, America, we're going back home, and
Speaker 1: then every all the value that we bring here we
Speaker 1: took over there. America wouldn't exist. No club Live and
Speaker 1: zoomand none of that will work. Think about it. Just imagine, man,
Speaker 1: all the major ball players left started their own team back,
Speaker 1: all the major recording artists left, started their own labels back.
Speaker 1: Just imagine just those two sectors. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: all the inventors that never got the credit for all
Speaker 1: the ship that they're invented, like cell phones and all
Speaker 1: that that black people invented. You would never even know
Speaker 1: all these these software companies that's taken. You know, you
Speaker 1: have no idea. Like people, we don't even know how
Speaker 1: much value we even have. Damn we have no idea.
Speaker 1: Let's imagine if we just woke up one day, I
Speaker 1: gotta wake up with you. That's real. That's that's that's real.
Speaker 1: That's real, man. No, that's that's that's real man. Because
Speaker 1: collectively we got enough to do it. We don't have
Speaker 1: to buy borrow anything from nobody. We can do it ourselves,
Speaker 1: if we just came together to do it, right, that's
Speaker 1: that's such a beautiful thing. I really like would like
Speaker 1: to be involved or something like that. I want to
Speaker 1: ask to Africa. I want to invest in like you know, um,
Speaker 1: the left frack city of Africa. Just starting with land.
Speaker 1: You start with Lamb. Think about it, Lamb land, Okay,
Speaker 1: I had to buy animals. Just think about it at Lamb.
Speaker 1: I don't like you, No, I don't like Lamb. Just
Speaker 1: think about it. Right. What's the average cost of a
Speaker 1: lake acre in New York City? Right? You can't, but
Speaker 1: if you could buy it, you're gonna spend at least No.
Speaker 1: Five six million acre? Ye? Easy? So now imagine you
Speaker 1: had that six million in Africa. You know many acres
Speaker 1: you can buy for six million in Africa? Do not know?
Speaker 1: Because I've ready to move podcast we're going out there.
Speaker 1: You could buy a thousand acres six million dollars and
Speaker 1: I could live like the King of the Moon where
Speaker 1: they watched my royal penis. I just needed to understand
Speaker 1: that because because I'm gonna be honest, I think even
Speaker 1: my wife would let that go down. Alright, cool, this
Speaker 1: is that's it. It's gonna watch my word, penis. Is
Speaker 1: it nothing else going down? Baby? So let me look
Speaker 1: around my wife, my head, she just pop up right.
Speaker 1: But that's how that's how we could live. You can
Speaker 1: live it up. Have you been Aza Moon though, where
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy was from? And um um, you mean today's
Speaker 1: what kndo? Today's what kind? That was the original condom?
Speaker 1: That was original condo. It was coming to America's the
Speaker 1: original condom. Right. The nigger got his own money. You
Speaker 1: got your own money. Oh my god, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: have my own money. To man, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I'll have your money. I'm gonna spend your money. Sunk
Speaker 1: that all right? So now so survivor young Jesus. I've
Speaker 1: seen y'all twenty years later looking young, just recently performed that.
Speaker 1: Both of y'all. The suits on, Jeezus, I don't know socks.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, you see, Jesus, Jesus different shorts. Now
Speaker 1: I went to his career. His shorts is different. He's
Speaker 1: getting a lot of money. That's that's I'm getting a
Speaker 1: lot of money shorts. When that first the first initial
Speaker 1: phone call happened, Jesus a new artist because he's predominantly
Speaker 1: a new artist. And then he and then you guys
Speaker 1: read uh created paid it fall. So what where were
Speaker 1: you at and what positions? Heah, oh yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: you did establish it. So they get that call, So
Speaker 1: so what do you think from there? We called which
Speaker 1: one you're talking about? Jeez jeezy because so survivor. So
Speaker 1: you get the call to say that you that they
Speaker 1: want you on so survivor. No, No, that was actually
Speaker 1: Meach was the one that called me. Told me to hope.
Speaker 1: You know, you're part of turning them up. You know
Speaker 1: that D want to be at that time. Of course,
Speaker 1: at this time you this is already locked up, is
Speaker 1: already Oh yeah, that was already yet. Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know, everybody had a huge influences at the time.
Speaker 1: Bing meth was one of the biggest influences on the
Speaker 1: street side in Atlanta. In Atlanta, my brother Boo, I
Speaker 1: mean Omar was running around with them, um heavily. It
Speaker 1: was booted, nigga knocked out, shook Omar's nigga here established that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that and me, I couldn't be around any
Speaker 1: of that at that moment in time when I was
Speaker 1: going and all this other craziness, but ultimately music was
Speaker 1: what I was known for in Atlanta. So was like, man,
Speaker 1: that's all I need you to hear this. When I
Speaker 1: first heard and I went to Patrick and met Jeez
Speaker 1: personally and played me studios just ridiculous. Yeah, okay, So man,
Speaker 1: Jesus clicked instantly from that connection, and then I thought
Speaker 1: about it the whole time. I was in Vegas and
Speaker 1: I had this record that I had wrote when I
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out when I was going to
Speaker 1: release it, but him, Joe, tell me you gave Jesus
Speaker 1: Soul survived Listen. After hearing Jeezy on that record, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: this record right now, especially what's happening with that buzz
Speaker 1: and what's going on with him, this record gonna change
Speaker 1: change the change the game. So you're telling me, are
Speaker 1: you telling me you gave Jesus soul survived him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it did what it was supposed to do. Is
Speaker 1: exactly what it's supposed to do. I love this quietness
Speaker 1: and yeah, not everybody makes a noise. So the guy
Speaker 1: wants to do a record with you. You've never really
Speaker 1: heard of him, but you you know, over the family
Speaker 1: being lit and you say, let me let me this
Speaker 1: is the record. I'm a so survivor. Was was your
Speaker 1: your vocals already on that? Yeah, the vocals already on it. No,
Speaker 1: like literally, I called him. I said, there, I got
Speaker 1: the record for you, jeez or Jeezy. He instantly loved
Speaker 1: the record the moment I sent it. Five minutes ain't
Speaker 1: go by. After the chorus came, he called me said, Nigga, Nigga,
Speaker 1: this ship right here. I said, I'm telling you it was.
Speaker 1: I knew it too. I was like, I knew it too.
Speaker 1: I would have knew it too. I knew it, but
Speaker 1: he would. He was the perfect. I feel like he
Speaker 1: was the perfect perfect At that time, I thought he
Speaker 1: was more perfect for that record than me. And you
Speaker 1: made it your producer. That's when I was in full
Speaker 1: production mode. I just felt like it was. It was
Speaker 1: a stronger record of being his than mine as an
Speaker 1: artist at that time. You I'm saying, he gave it
Speaker 1: to him, he lays it, and he keep be bodied
Speaker 1: the two. And that's what I was more confirmed when
Speaker 1: he said when he sent some verses back, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, so he sees you to record back
Speaker 1: prior to his release yeah, you heard it. Where was
Speaker 1: you at? Oh? I was I was selling Vegas when
Speaker 1: he sent the back. He said the back the next day.
Speaker 1: I feel like he was in tussies for some reason.
Speaker 1: But then again I used when I was in Miami.
Speaker 1: That was That's my spot. See, I want the thing
Speaker 1: about Tussie's day music stuck. Let's just throw it out there.
Speaker 1: Music is horrible lows carb when Tussie's food is fantastic woman,
Speaker 1: fantastic food. I'm a fat guy like I like the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like a little bit of limon pepper. I gotta relax.
Speaker 1: What's up, my man? How are you doing? Man? You
Speaker 1: look you look like you're very artistic. I'm just throwing
Speaker 1: out there. You know, when I first met him, I
Speaker 1: told him to saxon, alin't gonna lie. You look like
Speaker 1: somebody for where all were higher. So so I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, my friend so a co all Right, you've
Speaker 1: basically done like if the industry was a girl. You
Speaker 1: fund in the air, sucked in the nose, you sucked
Speaker 1: in the ass like this that you started out with
Speaker 1: that that's the first that's the second thing you did
Speaker 1: after you with the Pussie. What is the next thing?
Speaker 1: I felt like I went to all right, you might
Speaker 1: were just a little bit all right, so what's the
Speaker 1: next thing for a because now you got the cryptocurrency,
Speaker 1: you got, you've discovered the biggest white girl, You've discovered
Speaker 1: the new Britney spears and our day and time, lady
Speaker 1: g guy, I think, I mean, I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: is I'm good, Mike. Still, um, so what the fund
Speaker 1: could be left? I was for you to do that, say,
Speaker 1: just build a legacy, built a legacy, keep the platform
Speaker 1: available for everybody else to be able to get up
Speaker 1: and have an opportunity to the same thing. H That
Speaker 1: was so corporate. I don't even know how to answer that.
Speaker 1: That was really say that. Yeah, I'm sorry, fun, it
Speaker 1: was real. I wasn't very for it. I wasn't ready
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, I mean, we don't put it. We don't.
Speaker 1: We don't put each other on enough, right, we don't
Speaker 1: put each other on. We just know I built my
Speaker 1: career off making other people's careers. If we all did that,
Speaker 1: we'd be good. U H. Now, Also, French Montana was
Speaker 1: your artists first? How how how did that transpire? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: actually gotta be brought him to me. Gobby from loud Src. Yes,
Speaker 1: brought him to me. My man, Gobby that he beat
Speaker 1: this nigga. Yo, this nigga his phone it just sticks
Speaker 1: to just sticks to his cheek. Don't give me that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Gabby brought you from face. Now what happened now?
Speaker 1: Is this the DVD era? Yeah, it's around the time
Speaker 1: when he was um he had just did the DVD.
Speaker 1: He was doing DVDs. Uh. Then I signed him and
Speaker 1: then we rolled together for about a good year, you know,
Speaker 1: um flowing to Atlanta. Uh. That's what he got inspired
Speaker 1: on that side because French was a he was a chameleon,
Speaker 1: like he can adapt any style. And a good thing
Speaker 1: about him that he was one of the artist and
Speaker 1: didn't want to be putting one sicking boxing and try
Speaker 1: different things, you know what I'm saying. That's why I
Speaker 1: liked him a lot, you know, so he definitelyn't go
Speaker 1: off to that. And then we working some records in
Speaker 1: New York and he called me, was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I got a call from Diddy. Did he really want
Speaker 1: to be a part of the project? And I said, well, ship,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk to him and see what's going out.
Speaker 1: And you know we met with Diddy, did He? You know?
Speaker 1: At the time, did He and French would spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time together, you know, because I'll be wanting
Speaker 1: everybody to get around and just make sure they understand
Speaker 1: the game who they're dealing with. And did He was
Speaker 1: always one of those dudes when when they comes to
Speaker 1: artists from New York. I always felt like he's a
Speaker 1: good part of the half running around New York. So
Speaker 1: he called, He's like, yo, man, you know puff on
Speaker 1: the sign. What do you think? I said, well, ship, Nick,
Speaker 1: you should do it? He said, what you are? You're
Speaker 1: gonna feel some kind of way. I said, nigga, you
Speaker 1: are a New York based artist. All right, y'all niggas
Speaker 1: new New York, New York ship, I'm international. I can't
Speaker 1: do shipped from you until you break in New York anyway.
Speaker 1: They know what I can do it for you, you know,
Speaker 1: and that nigga believe in you. I'm not gonna tell
Speaker 1: you no lie how that nigga believe in you. So
Speaker 1: I restarted Diddy and Didd he was like, because I
Speaker 1: just did the joint venture with Diddy in Red Cafe
Speaker 1: right shortly before, you know, and He's like, Yo, Nick,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you we got another. We got another. What's
Speaker 1: so with this nigga? French? I said, did he? Man? Listen? Please,
Speaker 1: if that nigga want to be with you and you
Speaker 1: feel like this is something that you can take the
Speaker 1: next level, Let's work these things out. Let's just let
Speaker 1: him go. Let you don't make it happen, because I
Speaker 1: think I always felt like, you know, collaboration is gonna
Speaker 1: be the key to your advancement anyway, but you gotta
Speaker 1: just make sure you got the right partner, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And the things that did he could
Speaker 1: do for French at that time, I didn't have the
Speaker 1: time to do it for him. French is like my
Speaker 1: little brother, and I wanted to make sure he got
Speaker 1: the best of the best for what it is he
Speaker 1: was trying to do. And at that time, I thought,
Speaker 1: did he was that guy? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we make sure that deal happened for him and
Speaker 1: bad Boy. So now that deal didn't happen, are you
Speaker 1: in that deal? Like you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: I told you ill build him to fly? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. Like, I don't think that I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna smooth as I don't. I don't lock
Speaker 1: them down to where they can't move. Okay, this nigga
Speaker 1: is an honorable nigger. You don't let the nigga go?
Speaker 1: Why not? Like, why not? Look where you're at the
Speaker 1: day though, look at him, and there's nothing. It ain't
Speaker 1: not for me to pick up the phone and say,
Speaker 1: your friends, I need this, I need that. No, don't
Speaker 1: get it. I mean it's it's only empowered me. But
Speaker 1: is there ever any move that you actually made that
Speaker 1: you regret it anyway? Like you mean, as far as
Speaker 1: artists anything, just like you you did it as artists. Oh,
Speaker 1: the one the one thing that I do regret though,
Speaker 1: And I think I would have probably handled a different
Speaker 1: with the mindset obviously what the mindset I had now.
Speaker 1: But if I can still have the mindset had then
Speaker 1: and make a better decision, was that Pokeepsie situation. That's
Speaker 1: the one thing that I did it on the ground. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Not that d don't toss enough kids off the stage.
Speaker 1: Well that man, that nigga was no kid. Wait, I
Speaker 1: forgot what happened in this situation, but it was a
Speaker 1: big concert in Poughkeepsie, New York, and I was performing
Speaker 1: headlining and as I'm in the middle of performance, somebody
Speaker 1: threw something on stage at me and I caught it
Speaker 1: like right before me, and I looked, and at that time,
Speaker 1: I just felt disrespected, like I was always when it
Speaker 1: comes to disrespect, I just don't know how to handle that,
Speaker 1: Like I just don't let nobody respect me, especially from
Speaker 1: the twenty people. So I was like, yeah, who threw that?
Speaker 1: And the bill crowds were like I just literally you're
Speaker 1: literally pointed him out and I was like, yo, get
Speaker 1: him up here. And as he's coming up to the stage,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, Okay, what could I possibly do
Speaker 1: to this nigga? Let everybody know they're disrespectful at Volunteer.
Speaker 1: They actually they brought him to me, and in my mind,
Speaker 1: I said, okay, cool, I'm just gonna knock him out
Speaker 1: on the day. But then when he came, you have
Speaker 1: knocked him out, you just kept reform. Oh No, I
Speaker 1: just knocked him out and just kept reforming. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have cared because I got I got it out.
Speaker 1: But then when he came, because they brought the side
Speaker 1: of stage, he came. I just saw the look on
Speaker 1: his face, like the nigga was happy to be up.
Speaker 1: He was like, so I'm looking, I'm like, damn, this
Speaker 1: ni is actually a real fan like and he's happy
Speaker 1: to be here. So in my mind, maybe he was
Speaker 1: just doing that to get my attention round house king
Speaker 1: him no no. But so that made me not knock
Speaker 1: him out. But I said, he still gotta you know,
Speaker 1: he still gotta something got because because even if they
Speaker 1: for him, is for everybody out there, I think they
Speaker 1: could do the same thing. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I had to find a punishment that wouldn't kill
Speaker 1: him or heard him, but at the same time will
Speaker 1: give the word out that I didn't wanted to be
Speaker 1: sucking out thing. So I said, I got it, and
Speaker 1: I said you wanna be you want you know, throw,
Speaker 1: They're gonna stay. So at the time when I feel
Speaker 1: like I for an eye, you throw somebody, may I'll
Speaker 1: throw you. Right, I just picked him up, sauce soft
Speaker 1: spot and tossed them over there. You know that's how
Speaker 1: it was happened, did it? It was like Cardy Be's
Speaker 1: a little baby picture. Yeah, but that's exactly what happened, right,
Speaker 1: you would like Cardy be a little bit. Ain't that
Speaker 1: what happened? And then what was this? That? This was?
Speaker 1: What would you have done different though you said that
Speaker 1: you would have done that differently, what would you have done? Yeah, Honestly,
Speaker 1: after that happened, I would have just kept going on
Speaker 1: with the show, like I ain't even I ain't even
Speaker 1: see it now, you know. But then I stopped the music.
Speaker 1: I got mad dramatic that you hold on, stop them
Speaker 1: stop mute. Ohally the nigga. I'm just winning. Oh, in
Speaker 1: my mind everybody saw it, like in my mind because
Speaker 1: I saw it, everybody saw it, and it's a mind
Speaker 1: you're probably my mind state. Then it was just different,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was just different, ignorant.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing we take back in life. Sick.
Speaker 1: That's it. You're not gonna throw that nigga in the
Speaker 1: crowd again. That's it. Everything else, I'm glad to have
Speaker 1: anything else, even though I'm sorry, record, We're sorry for
Speaker 1: being sorry. That's all we're being sorry for. That's motherfucking
Speaker 1: motherfucking listen man, listen, I can't thank you so much
Speaker 1: coming down sitting down with us, drink champs Um. Like
Speaker 1: I said in the beginning of interview, me and E
Speaker 1: f M. We started this. We wanted to interview legends.
Speaker 1: And it's not that we don't love got love for
Speaker 1: the new generation, but we want to when you got
Speaker 1: ten years and more in this game, we want to
Speaker 1: salute to people. We want to letting people know that
Speaker 1: you appreciate it. No, thank you, brother, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And and you you appreciate for standing in, standing relevant,
Speaker 1: and you appreciate it for doing what the funk you
Speaker 1: gotta do. And we need to represent that every other
Speaker 1: genre in music. When you have ten years of more,
Speaker 1: these people salute you. In hip hop, they say, nigger,
Speaker 1: you've got great hair now, So I'm glad you've told
Speaker 1: my partner his bed looked good, because no one else
Speaker 1: never told you do look younger him? And who else him?
Speaker 1: And buston because nobody you tell somebody your gray hairs
Speaker 1: make you look younger. If you think they're trying to
Speaker 1: sell you something, you know what I'm saying that you
Speaker 1: take it differently and you should look ya. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming down because you know why the
Speaker 1: thing about media is going on, and you know me
Speaker 1: and my partner. We live modern day R B and
Speaker 1: rock Kim meaning this is a hip H M C
Speaker 1: and the DJ and we want to we want on
Speaker 1: our artists. You know, there's so many platforms where you
Speaker 1: can sit down and you can you can talk to them,
Speaker 1: and as soon as you leave them, you go fuck
Speaker 1: fucking you know, Zaraya from Amazon dot com. And then
Speaker 1: now the gossip, that's not what we do here. We're here.
Speaker 1: We want to salute your career. You want to salute
Speaker 1: your thing because we want to. We want to promote
Speaker 1: that that the gossip and everything else a part of
Speaker 1: anybody else's life, is not a part of our life.
Speaker 1: Our life is just the music. Every person that does
Speaker 1: hip hop, R and B, you know whatever, we're superheroes
Speaker 1: that salute them as such. Everybody black panther is so dope.
Speaker 1: But guess what, every one of us is a black panther.
Speaker 1: We just gotta put on the fucking suit. That's hard.
Speaker 1: Please recall that that was hard. That's another sound bite.
Speaker 1: I don't know what album used that on. We're gonna
Speaker 1: use it, but y'all a con thank you for coming through.
Speaker 1: Gonna take a couple of pictures because some drops man,
Speaker 1: and I really really really appreciate you doing what you
Speaker 1: gotta do. Man, Let's make some noise for motherfucker. And also,
Speaker 1: I cannot in this interview without big ing up black
Speaker 1: motherfucking royal. Let's make because whatever I'm at, whatever I'm at,
Speaker 1: like we we they know who I am. Man, Wherever
Speaker 1: I'm at, I'm talking. I'll be anywhere in the build
Speaker 1: the Norway. I'm over here. I'm like, I'm over here.
Speaker 1: Anything happened, I'm like, oh, I'll be in, Like I'll
Speaker 1: be in. I'm being fucking talk him off, Missouri. No,
Speaker 1: we we deep though. These niggas be out there like that,
Speaker 1: but your glory anyway you anything happened, And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: my nigga, I'm in church. These niggas is in church
Speaker 1: like I'm at, and you know I'm I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know too, So it's a little deeper with me. So
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, be we understand what happened. But we know.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you holding that that that those people down. Man,
Speaker 1: make some motherfucking noise, So do the thing. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: let me let me take a s