WEBVTT - British Columbia Black Bear Pt. #2 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.640 You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network powered by 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.520 Interstate Batteries from your truck to your trail camera. Interstate 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.480 Batteries as you covered. Visit your local Interstate Batteries store 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:17.880 today or online at Interstate Batteries dot com. Interstate Batteries 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:31.880 Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.520 of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.880 host into the world of hunting the icon of North 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:43.400 American wilderness and bear We'll talk about tactics, gear conservation 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.840 that will also bring you into some of the wildest 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:56.160 country on the planet. Chasing band. We are in British Columbia, Canada. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.360 How about you guys introduce yourselves to my To my 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:06.840 right is Devin Jewel, owner Pacific Bar Openers in British Columbia, Canada. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:13.200 Kevin Jewel. To my left is Daniel Rupe. What do 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:19.600 you do? Dan? I am the owner of Nothing. Come 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.720 Clay's buddy and uh my along for the ride and 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.399 having the time of my life. That's right. So we're 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:31.800 sitting at bear camp here at Pacific Bear Outfitters in 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.080 beautiful British Columbia, Canada. That's what they say on their 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.119 license plates. Beautiful British Columbia, Canada. They are not lying, 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.679 They're not They're not lying at all. So we got 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.120 a fire crackling in front of us. It's about sixty degrees. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.480 Spoiler alert. Dan and I no longer have bear tags. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:55.000 We did add bar tags that were unused. Now our 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:01.680 barre tags argused. And so this the first the last episode. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.200 Dan told us his story and we gave quite a 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:08.480 bit of context for this hunt in our relationship. And 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.520 so as just a quick recap, Dan and I are 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.440 like long time friends. Our families have been friends for 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.560 a long time. We're both from Arkansas, but Dan has 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.880 been out of the country for about Dan and his 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.919 wife family have been out of the country for about 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.920 ten years. And so Dan and I bow hunting together 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.360 back in the early two thousand's and just had some 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.640 We were just like Dan kind of got into bow hunting, 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.959 uh through me, and we just had an awesome time. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.080 So that's Dan and I its history, and they're back 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.720 in They were back in the States for a short 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.520 time and we've been planning this hunt for a long time. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:49.519 And so Devin Jewel, Devin W. Jewel had I had 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:54.040 a W into most people's things because of the very 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.239 monumental time in my life when President George W. Bush 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.240 was our was our president. So I just added W 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.600 to everybody's name. I don't know why. Devin W. Jewel 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:12.200 he uh. He graciously graciously Hattison as camp this year. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.160 So Devin and I were the only ones in camp. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.760 And I want to give just a little bit of 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.359 a context of British Columbia is an el primo place 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.120 to hunt black bear. When you look at the scope 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:29.240 of northern bear hunting, black bear hunting, British Columbia is 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.560 at the at the top of the heap in terms 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.280 of in many places. And it's not it's not necessarily 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.080 that there's this is the only place to kill a 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.400 big bear. But when I say at the top of 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.120 the heap, I mean it's These are some of the 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:46.200 more expensive hunts in Canada. On an outfit and hunt, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.720 you've got to have an outfitter to hunt. A non 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:53.480 resident has de an outfitter to hunt in Canada. And 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.680 the the epic beauty of this place is what stands out. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.520 We're in the coast mountains of BC, which this is 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.640 basically the I mean, would you say this is the 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.480 northern stretch of the Rockies. No, No, the Rockies is 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:13.720 totally different. So Rockies border Alberta, BC. This is totally 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.599 cost range just runs up the ocean, starts in like 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:22.000 northern California ish and but it's not big there, and 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.479 then runs up into like Alaska. Ok. Yeah, through So 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.880 it runs all through BC and up into Alaska. And 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.679 it's one of the newest mountain ranges in North America. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:38.040 So it's very point, very pointy, very new, very glaciated place. Yeah. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:43.680 Really dramatic, Yeah, very dramatic. So from almost any vantage 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.760 point we can we are in dense forest, but can 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:52.239 see the tops of snow covered mountains. We talked about 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:56.120 last episode about the epic water features of this place, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:02.240 big glacial, fast moving rivers, waterfalls around every corner. That 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.080 if they were in Arkansas, we would have a state 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.559 park there. You know, one thing we did you saying 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.200 almost from any vantage point we can see SnowCat mountains 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.080 just kind of I think. Another thing that makes this 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.080 place and this hunt really fun is you feel like 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.440 you're a part of this again from Arkansas and rarely 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.920 seeing snow on the ground for more than about fifteen minutes, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.600 being in a land where you're surrounded by these snow 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.599 cat mountains. But I'm walking around a T shirt. You know, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.320 I'm hiking. I'm getting warm. We're not freezing. I mean, 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:43.440 we're super comfortable. It's uh, were stand there nice. Yeah, 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.520 that's a good point. So it's kind of like the 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:51.599 best of both worlds, mild temperatures, super comfortable, but we're 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.039 looking at the snow cat mountains, which is like crazy. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.160 Usually when you're in a place where it's really wild 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.200 and are out, you're also I feel like, at least 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:07.080 I have been weatherwise also really uncomfortable. Yeah, and that's 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.240 what I'm talking about. So anytime I've done stuff like this, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.560 it's been in the Himalayas, and you're either struggling with 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.600 altitude sickness or you are freezing your tail off no 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.560 matter what you're doing. You could be sitting on the 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.280 fire and you're still cold. But here, I mean, you've 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.000 got all the beauty of that, but no problem with altitude, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.720 and you are just fit as a fiddle weatherwise, it's 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:33.880 no problem. Yeah. Amazing. Now, So Dan and something He's 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.000 been on a couple of pretty big adventures. And uh, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.400 how far did y'all hike? You doing on a five 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.720 day backpack trip in the Himalays and summited a nice mountain. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.800 We didn't make a summit the weather closed in US, 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:53.239 but we hiked up to sixteen thousand five feet um 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.400 and then that's pretty tall. Yeah, that's pretty The oxygen 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:00.640 of eighteen thousand feet is uh when it's half of 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.840 the oxygen content for sea level. So basically it takes 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.560 two breaths to do what you normally do. But you're 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:13.120 you're you know, you're you're working a lot harder to wow. Wow. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.880 So British Columbia is this beautiful place to me this 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:22.600 the water, the mountains, but also the bear hunting tell 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:27.120 us a little bit about just devn like like maybe 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.880 maybe just recap what we said last time about how 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.480 the western side of these mountains are more lush and 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.480 so critters are bigger. Yeah, so for especially when it 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.600 comes to bears, So rainfall kind of equates to like 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.720 numbers of bears and quality of bears. So you get 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.200 on the west side of the coast range, just like 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:49.400 precipitation is measured in like feet a year, right, so 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.360 the others on the east side, of course it's much drier, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.120 almost like air in desert. So on the west side 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:57.680 of the mountain ra and you get just get more 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.760 more berries, more growth, fire. We just a longer growing 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.920 season and far more plentiful growth from that. So of 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:11.440 course higher densities of bears and bigger bears. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:16.000 So British Columbia, you know, talking about it being a 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.920 a primo destination for black bear. These bears have, like 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.360 the older mature males in this region are known for 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.800 having big frames, big guerrilla like frontal like big arms, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.559 big chests, big frames. I mean, every every destination kind 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.600 of has something that's unique, you know, And I would 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.760 say that that's a feature of here is just big 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:47.560 old bears, gorilla like bears, and a lot of bears. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.559 I don't know. For me, that really surprised. We've had 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.040 some really cool bear encounters. Before we get into my hunt, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.199 maybe we'll talk about the encounter we had yesterday rant. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.880 So we we already used our tags. We were actually 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.840 going out to shoot some b roll for for video, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.640 and we stopped at just a random location that had 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.160 some nice vistas and we get out of the truck 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:17.760 and Devon goes, holy cow. Canadians don't say holy cow, 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.280 they say other stuff. He said, holy expletive, there's a bear. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.920 And we look over and what did we see, Devon. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:31.400 There's a brown like a brown chocolate colored sow. Uh, 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.280 just across the road ground. It's on like a big 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:37.320 stump garden, like an older tree, which must have a covenant. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.679 So she was just sitting at the base of the tree, 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:44.400 watching just across the road, setting on this huge, like 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.120 four ft stump. I mean, it was a spectacular to 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.120 see this bear standing on the stump. And so we're 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.040 all thinking this bear is gonna run away. So we're 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.720 like scrambling to get the cameras. Dan's grabbing the five 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.000 D and we're just like taking pictures. We're thinking we're 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.439 gonna have like thirty seconds towards the bear jumps off 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.959 the stump and leads, and we just like keep taking 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.960 pictures and keep taking video. And it's like, this bear 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.640 doesn't seem to be that worried about spying here. So 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.800 I'm like, hey, Dan, walk up to that bear fit 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:19.520 on me and I'm a bigger idiot for doing it. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.679 And so he just kind of starts like creeping towards 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:29.000 this bear, and the bear doesn't move, creeping, creeping, creeping, 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:34.080 and you're like eight yards from this bear. He's just 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.920 standing there, beautiful chocolate colored color phase bear. And then 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.280 the bear hunting community like a color phace bear is 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.439 a is a unique animal. So it was just a 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.160 spectacular and it wasn't large. I mean, we knew it 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.120 wasn't a big bear, but it was an adult bear. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.120 It wasn't a it was an adult and you know, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:58.080 after assessing the situation, Devon was like, guys, that's a 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:02.319 female and she's probably has a cub because she would 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.720 not move and then she started getting aggressive. So Dan's 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.040 like seven yards from her taking pictures. I'm like, probably 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.400 I'm hiding in the truck. I'm in the truck, hanging 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:21.600 out in the window, going get closer, and this bear 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:26.240 finally like wolf's I mean, we sat there. So the 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.520 longer story is we ended up setting there for thirty 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.760 minimum thirty minutes filming this bear. She was wolfing, popping 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.160 her teeth. She would she would jump towards us and 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:42.440 stomp the brush, and clearly the bear was was guarding 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.240 a cub that was either up a tree or in 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.200 a hole. She did not want to move, and she 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.360 wasn't gonna move. She actually got closer to us, and 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.160 so you know a situation like that, you don't want 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.440 to push it, but it was hard to leave. Like 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.559 we just kept Devin like was like in the truck, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:05.439 just like, okay, guys, what we needed? Yeah, Daniel on 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.760 that we were just like how do we We're just 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.280 like watching this bear, I mean it and it got 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.440 real comfortable with us. I mean, even though it was 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.120 being aggressive, it was kind of odd because it you 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.600 got comfortable it's being there and just like sit down 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.680 and scratch its here wasn't super worried because now when 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.240 we got closer, that's when she got aggressive. And you know, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.440 in a situation where you're on a baited hunt, you 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.439 see things like this, like you're seeing bear close proximity, 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.680 a lot of bears. But on a spotting stock hunt, 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.000 which in British Columbia that is the only legal method 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.800 of harvest is spotting stocks, you can't use uh well 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.640 it's not. You can. You can hunt with hounds for 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.240 black bear British Columba. You cannot hunt over bait in 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:51.200 British Columbia and so but it was just a unique 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.760 experience and and uh so that was that was that. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:00.480 So Dan killed a bear and then the first episode 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.240 of this you would have heard about damn tunt which 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.800 he killed the bear on the second day. So on 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:10.640 the third day was my first time to hunt, and 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.240 I was hunting with a new rifle that I got. 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.920 I got the Best of the West Hunter Elite rifle, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:24.920 which is a spectacular long range guns, one of the 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.480 I mean the l primo long range gun made in 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:33.200 my opinion. And uh so this gun is it has 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.800 a custom turret that's built by the guys at Best 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.560 of West three win mag basically Best of the West 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.120 calibrates this gun for you. Drop Data, builds a custom turret, 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.440 sights it in like the packages hunting ready when you 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.679 get it. And this is this gun has got a 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.439 turt that goes out to nine h yards and is 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:57.360 guaranteed accurate out that far. Now can I shoot it 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.400 that far hunting accurate? No? I mean that to be 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.040 able to shoot that far takes a lot of practice, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.880 a lot of skill. And I'm a proficient shot, but 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.320 but not not a long range expert. At all. But 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.600 so I'm carrying this Best of the West rifle, and 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.880 Dan killed his bear walking the roads, which that's a 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.600 There's two ways that we hunt here, walking roads because 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.720 road ditches in a heavily forced to region. The ditches 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.480 let sunlight touch the forest floor and so all kinds 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.840 of vegetation that the bears the primarily fireweed growing the ditches, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.360 So the bears are along these logging roads. So we 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.320 walk the logging roads and find bears. The second way 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:48.920 is hunting cut blocks, which are forestry chunks out of 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.120 the timber where they've cut all the tree second year 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.680 cut blocks ats are the hot spots. Hot spots, man, 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.520 Just look at those huge bear hides. Wow, look at 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:04.520 them all. Wow, spectacular bear hides within twelve feet of us. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:09.600 So so I told these guys that the way I 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:15.040 preferred to kill bear in British Columbia was glass in 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.720 these cut blocks. That just to me, that's the way. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.640 When I envisioned killing the bear here, I envisioned glassing 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:28.240 in some beautiful glacial valley and seeing black speck far 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.880 away eating fireweed in a cut lock. So it's the 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.480 third day of the hunt. Devon takes us into this 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.480 area that has a lot of two year old cut locks, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.200 and he had been in there some this year and 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.320 had seen some Did you see some sALS and cubs 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.600 in there? Cubs? I didn't see singles, I don't think. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.560 I think just salus and clubs. I'd seen so, but 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.640 that was like two weeks ago or yeah, before you 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.240 got near by a bit yea, So you never know. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.640 So we go back in there because like just the 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.960 scenario is right for there to be a bear there, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:10.080 and it's Clay's first day to hunt, and I get 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.120 out of the truck and we start walking down the road. 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.680 Before you do you want to talk about you were 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.840 telling us what a group of bears was called. Yeah, 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:26.000 so this this, this will play greater significance into the 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:30.120 story later. At some point earlier in the day, I 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:34.600 had asked a bear trivia question to Devon and Damn, 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.040 and I said, do you guys know what a group 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:41.480 of bears is called? Because there's a name that's not 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:47.760 a family yet. What it's like sound cubs? So animals 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.600 animals have grouping names like a covey of quail, a 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.720 herd of elk, a flock of geese, pride of line, 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:01.880 pride of lions, a a sounder of pigs, a snickerdoodle 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:08.480 of squirrels, isn't that it? Yeah, snicker dood I can't 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:16.560 tell if you're joking. I'm joking. It's like, man, snickerdoodle squirrels. So, 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:20.400 so there's these names that describe groups of animals. Now, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.639 bears are typically not in groups. So I asked them 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:29.560 the question and Dan guest, well, the answer to the 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.399 question is a sleuth, which is a sleuth of bears. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.520 So if you were to see a grouping of bears, 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.480 perhaps like in a clear cut, and they were all together, 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.400 you'd say, Man, there was a whole sleuth bears up there. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.400 I might not say that Dan would. But so Dan 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.680 was like, that's kind of a stupid dab. He's like, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.440 and then what do you say they need? Bears are 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.800 just being here. Bears are just really awesome and big, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.960 and if you have a group of bears you want 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.639 not there should be a cooler like a pride of lines. 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.600 That's an awesome So I said it would be like 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.359 a council of bears. Yeah, And and Devon was like, oh, yeah, 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.480 council of bears. That sounds very cooler. Yeah, it sounds 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:18.320 very cooler. More like I didn't even know sleuth of theirs. So, 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.720 so that happened sometime earlier in the day, and so 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.600 we're now hunting in later in the evening, I will 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.760 say that. Yeah, And so now it's kind of like 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.040 prime bear time, like the last four hours of the day. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:37.360 We parked the truck on the kind of like at 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.600 the first section of these two year old cut blocks, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.959 and we're gonna walk about a k into And for 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.439 all you Americans, no idea what a k is? We 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:53.080 don't either. We're just trying to sound like Devon thousand 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.600 based everything on ten not whatever it is. Y'all came 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:05.520 up with random measurements. There's nothing more natural than feat. Yeah, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:11.800 it's biblical. It's the biblical measurements feet, feet. It just engaged. 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.560 You don't understand that he gave you two so you 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:21.200 can get it. So we're we're gonna walk about okay 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.560 into Wait a second, he also gave you ten, oh 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:37.320 ten fingers tint toes. Yeah, I can't do this anymore. Then. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:42.320 I've had challenged this whole trip, translating kilometers in the 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:47.480 metric system back into something that we understand. So we're 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.120 gonna walk. We're gonna walk back in here. And on 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:52.919 either side of the road, so we're on kind of 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:54.800 a slope, and on either side of the road are 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.600 these big cut blocks. And I mean you could see 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.800 up to probably five yards and some places to the 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.280 to the right of us was this big cut block 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.560 that I think I range the furthest point, like five 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.320 and thirty seven yards to the furthest point. Was it 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:14.000 worth saying? So before I ever did any bear hunting 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.240 or knew anything, you'd say cut block, and I had 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.840 no idea what you're talking about. It's just a large 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.480 swath of the forest that they have very strategically. The 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:26.720 logging companies have taken the log taking the logs out. Absolutely. Yeah. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:28.879 And that's a good point because when you come to 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.879 different parts of the world to hunt, people have different 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:33.800 ways it said. I would call it a clear cut, 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.879 and that technically is not at all a clear cut. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.560 But in Arkansas that's always say that's a clear cut 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.919 clear cut. I mean just generic place where logging has happened. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.879 But technically a clear cut would be where they cut 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.520 every single tree. Then they don't just like flatten the place, 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.919 so that is not but Devon calls him cut blocks. 0:20:56.080 --> 0:21:00.160 And Devon's always right here. He is in Arkans saw. 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:07.680 We'd put him in his place. Uh. So we're walking 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.560 through these cut blocks, and so to the left, as 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.199 you can see five or six yards to the to 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.200 the to the right of U student, to the left 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.960 of us, we're looking up this hill and this cut block, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.399 and you know, we're kind of ranging as we go, 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.600 and I mean, like the furthest distances we're seeing here 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.560 around four yards. And so these cut blocks are not 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.760 just empty and void of trees, but they're strategically leaves 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:34.200 strips of trees leave clumps of trees, and they're stumpy 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:38.639 and rocky, and there's debris and downfall and so but 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:44.240 more importantly there's fireweed. Where are we after sausage? Where 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:49.200 there's fireweed growing in these cut blocks. So it's Clay's 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.280 first day to hunt. Ten minutes into huh. I mean, 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.959 we're hardly out of side of the truck. And and 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:58.120 I just happened to be I think the first one 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.800 that just looked up this direction. And there's a bear. 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.960 And I say, there's a bear, guys, And I see 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:10.040 the bear moving quickly, which is an unusual I mean, 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:11.840 like I wouldn't expecting to see a bear just like 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:17.000 moving fast. And this bears moving fast coming down off 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.479 of a bank. And I feel like the bear is 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:23.360 like either he's been spooked and he's moving from us, 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.480 or he's just traveling across. And so I'm like, there's 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.200 a bear. He's moving to the left, and he went 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.800 what appeared to me he went into this strip of trees. 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:37.159 So we actually, rather than go forward, I MINSNC was 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:40.040 to go backwards the direction of the bear, and I 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.840 feel like we're gonna see the bear on the other 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.919 side of the strip of timber. So we backpedal like 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.920 fifty sixty yards and I arranged where the bear was, 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.159 and the bear was like a hundred and seventy seven yards, 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:56.440 so hud seventy seven yards uphill from us, pretty significantly. 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:01.520 Be the wind was going to the thermal. The thermal 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:08.000 left was pushing our center. Devon, our guide went forward, 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.000 yeah and play you called him back. You and I 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:16.359 pulled back, and he probably sent it us and not Devon. 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:18.600 Devon was further down the road and the way the 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:22.600 wind was going, yeah, they have he probably said it you, well, 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:28.720 I don't know, probably smelled mustache. Your mustache smells like tacos. 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:36.399 We haven't had tacos and months moose tacos, tacos, moose tacos. 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.879 So well, but turns out the bear hadn't smelled us 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.280 at that point. Dan. Yeah, because we go back like 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.600 for like probably like eight minutes. We're expecting to see 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:49.879 this bear move in the direction we thought he was moving, 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.520 and we're thinking he's gonna pop out, and Devin finally 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:57.480 starts creeping up the road and Devon's like probably eighty 0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.800 nine yards in front of us down the road and 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.480 he starts flagging us over. He's like, come on, come on, 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.880 and we know what that means. He had seen the bear. 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.679 So what he saw the bear, he was just in 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.240 there feeding eating some fire. He was right where I 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.480 saw it. Yeah, he just was there. I mean the 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.520 cup locked you would think is like flat, but it's 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:18.280 actually like super fissured, right, and there's like stumps, so 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.000 I mean they can disappear in all those little crevices 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:24.080 for a little bits they're eating easily. Yeah, And so 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.480 what I thought was a moving bear was actually a 0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.840 bear that was just like moving to relocate to like 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.359 eat a different patch in Yeah, just graves in a 0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:40.520 different spot. And so here in starts. The interesting part 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:45.399 of this story is that we have to judge this 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:50.840 bear and so, well Clay's picky because he killed like 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:56.199 five bears. True, well not true. Anyways, I've killed like 0:24:56.240 --> 0:25:01.000 ford and I think you you're you're not just wanting 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:04.199 to kill any bear. You're also not wanting You're you 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:08.760 got this new gun. Uh, and normally you're shooting was 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.639 a bowl and that's real close range. You're wanting a 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:16.600 long shot? Yeah, like I I didn't. I didn't want 0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:20.760 to do anything unethical or unnatural. It's like, it's not 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.840 like I wanted to see a bear and like back 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:26.439 up to shoot it, you know what I'm saying. But 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:31.280 in my heart of hearts, I was hoping for a 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.520 three hundred plus yard shot. It really wanted even a 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:36.920 little bit longer, because we we had shot this gun 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:41.639 pretty extensively beforehand. I mean, this man at forwarder yards 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.040 is like a chip shot with a good dress with 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:49.400