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Speaker 1: Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host

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Speaker 1: of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your

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Speaker 1: host into the world of hunting the icon of North

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Speaker 1: American wilderness and bear We'll talk about tactics, gear conservation

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Speaker 1: that will also bring you into some of the wildest

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Speaker 1: country on the planet. Chasing band. We are in British Columbia, Canada.

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Speaker 1: How about you guys introduce yourselves to my To my

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Speaker 1: right is Devin Jewel, owner Pacific Bar Openers in British Columbia, Canada.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Jewel. To my left is Daniel Rupe. What do

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Speaker 1: you do? Dan? I am the owner of Nothing. Come

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Speaker 1: Clay's buddy and uh my along for the ride and

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Speaker 1: having the time of my life. That's right. So we're

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Speaker 1: sitting at bear camp here at Pacific Bear Outfitters in

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Speaker 1: beautiful British Columbia, Canada. That's what they say on their

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Speaker 1: license plates. Beautiful British Columbia, Canada. They are not lying,

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Speaker 1: They're not They're not lying at all. So we got

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Speaker 1: a fire crackling in front of us. It's about sixty degrees.

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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. Dan and I no longer have bear tags.

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Speaker 1: We did add bar tags that were unused. Now our

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Speaker 1: barre tags argused. And so this the first the last episode.

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Speaker 1: Dan told us his story and we gave quite a

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Speaker 1: so as just a quick recap, Dan and I are

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Speaker 1: like long time friends. Our families have been friends for

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Speaker 1: We were just like Dan kind of got into bow hunting,

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Speaker 1: uh through me, and we just had an awesome time.

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Speaker 1: So that's Dan and I its history, and they're back

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Speaker 1: in They were back in the States for a short

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Speaker 1: time and we've been planning this hunt for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And so Devin Jewel, Devin W. Jewel had I had

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Speaker 1: a W into most people's things because of the very

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Speaker 1: monumental time in my life when President George W. Bush

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Speaker 1: he uh. He graciously graciously Hattison as camp this year.

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Speaker 1: So Devin and I were the only ones in camp.

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Speaker 1: And I want to give just a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a context of British Columbia is an el primo place

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Speaker 1: of northern bear hunting, black bear hunting, British Columbia is

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Speaker 1: more expensive hunts in Canada. On an outfit and hunt,

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Speaker 1: whole different I mean being a guy that again you know,

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00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: a deer hunter from Arkansas. Uh, I feel like in

426
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot of ways you have to know a lot

427
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: and it really is a lot of skill. I'm also

428
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: not really I don't consider myself a super knowledgeable hunter,

429
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: but I can look at a buck, a white tail buck,

430
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: and I know what kind of bucket is immediately. But

431
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: with a bear, especially on the hoof, on the pall,

432
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: it's an entirely different skill set. It's a whole different,

433
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: but it's a different universe as far as what kind

434
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: of an animal is that. Uh, it's super impressive fascinating

435
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: to me. Well, and what I liked was that Devin

436
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: said that is part of the fun and intrigue of

437
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: bear hunting is is judging the bear. Because when I

438
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: first saw the bear, I don't know if you guys

439
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: remember it, but I told you I thought it was

440
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: a small bear. I mean, like I said, I saw

441
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: a bear, and I said, I think it's a small bear.

442
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: Well let's let's stop right here, though, and let's talk

443
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: a little bit about judging bears. Like what are you

444
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: looking for in an older mature male two hundred yards

445
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: or five hundred yards trupy belly body posture that'd be

446
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: like a huge part of like judging a posture of body. Yeah,

447
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: big shoulders, like more of a rectangular body shape. Head

448
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: to body rature should be small, but the head should

449
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: look like solid obviously. Like if the first thing a

450
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: non bear hunter says is I saw a bear is huge,

451
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: huge head, well a bear hunt it, that means that's

452
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: probably a small bear. Because if it's all head, that

453
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: means it's just a young bear, right, lanky body, ranky

454
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: body bear. So yeah, just looking for that. Like I

455
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: use the head as like a judge. So like if

456
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: you just average out a black bear head, it's probably like,

457
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: let's just say, for ease of math, it's twelve inches.

458
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: So how many like head lengths could you get into

459
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: the body if you had time to like perfectly horizontally

460
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: length in the bear with its own head as a scale, right,

461
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: because here you can't use like trees or stumps or

462
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: sticks or rocks because everything is so like you can

463
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: have a tree it's a six inch diameter. You can

464
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: have a tree that's like a six foot diameter, so

465
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: you have no scale from the vegetation whatsoever. So yeah,

466
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: just tricks you learn, right, So I would I would

467
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: say for me that a bore is always going to

468
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: be taller like sALS or shorter sALS are pear shaped

469
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: like their their chest is gonna be smaller that butts

470
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: gonna be bigger. Um, would you say that resembles human people?

471
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: All that? Damn comment on that? Uh? No comment, okay,

472
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: but it may or may not. So Uh one thing

473
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: that I look for, and it's harder at longer distances.

474
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: But like front feet, I mean like a bear, a

475
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: mature male, and even on a lesser scale, an immature male,

476
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna have wider pads, thicker ankles a sow has

477
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: like skinnier wrists, smaller feet. Um, you are looking for

478
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: the how much daylight is under the belly, But that

479
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: can be deceptive because you can be looking at a

480
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: hundred fifty pounds sow bear with a droopy belly that's

481
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: six inches from the ground, and if you don't understand

482
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: the scale, you'd be like, that's a monster bear. Look,

483
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: it's bellies jagging the ground. Well, it's a four and

484
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: a half foot bear man. So scale is everything, and

485
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: that's what got me on this bear. With scale. So

486
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: you're looking at you're looking for feet, you're looking for

487
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: front shoulders, you're looking for rectangular shape, you're looking for

488
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: just thickness. Like I've noticed, when you see a big

489
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: male bear, you just think he's thick. He's thick, yeah,

490
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: and you you you're not. You know. I noticed in

491
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: retrospect after we spoiler alert past the bear, I remember

492
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: thinking back and what I saw, and I saw a

493
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: bear that didn't have much of a neck. It was

494
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: like his shoulders just went into his head, and and

495
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: that indicated that he was just like this big stocky.

496
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Whereas that little chocolate bear that we bumped into, she

497
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: had a really long neck. I remember her setting up

498
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: on that stump and we were seven yards and she

499
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: just looked out and her nose would go out and

500
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: she just had a very significant neck. And she was

501
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: also a pretty small bear. Yep, yep. And so I

502
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: would just say that scale is everything because you just

503
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: got to know what you're looking at. But but a

504
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: big mature male is just gonna look thick. So and

505
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell this whole story because I've already told

506
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: you that Devon is an expert, and so Devin and

507
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: and he kind of said this like tongue in cheek,

508
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: but I told him it was a small bear. Devin

509
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: goes out in front of us, seized the bear feeding

510
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: almost in the same spot. I saw it originally, but

511
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: was fooled into thinking that it had moved. And Devin

512
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: waves us over, and you know it's the it's the

513
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: I see a bear wave. I think we all know

514
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: that wave. It's like, come on, come on, come on,

515
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: come on. I mean, I knew he was looking at

516
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: the bear. We go up there and he says, there's

517
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: your seven foot bear. And he kind of said it

518
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: like I knew he didn't like mean that fully, but

519
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: he was trying to say, Clay, that's a big bear.

520
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Devon is Canadian and he's hard to understand sometimes true. True.

521
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: I thought he was telling a metric system seven metrics seven,

522
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: which would be giant. Okay, no, And so so we

523
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: I run down there. Dan gets the camera set up.

524
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: I dropped down on my knees and I'm looking up

525
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: the mountain at this bear and the wind is hitting

526
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: us right in the back of the net going straight

527
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: to this bear, and through the scope, I see this

528
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: bear at a hundred seventy seven yards, bobbing his head

529
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: up and down, dipping his nose into the into there.

530
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: He's winding us, and we know that our time is limited.

531
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: And immediately Devin says, I don't think that bear seven foot?

532
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: He says, nah, And I hear that that kind of

533
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: like I wonder what tone like if we're playing piano.

534
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: That tone, Nah, like a B flat, like a beef.

535
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I hear like a B flat note. I think to me,

536
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: you know that that's the third day of the hunt.

537
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: I hunted the first two days, and in the morning

538
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: of the third day, we're basically going after my bear

539
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: and kind of getting it back to camp. So literally,

540
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: you have four more days of four more whole days

541
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: of hunting ahead of you. And you wanted a really long,

542
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: much longer shot. You wanted a big bear, and we

543
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: weren't sure this was a big bear, and were certainly

544
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: wasn't a long shot in and none of us wanted

545
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: to take a take a smaller but I mean, like

546
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to get a big bear. Devin wanted me

547
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: to get a big bear. So all the things were

548
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: stacked against us to make a mistake on this bear.

549
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: And so but immediately Devon goes, no, I don't think

550
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: that's a seven footbear. And I and you know, and

551
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, what do you think should I shoot?

552
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: I mean, and okay, the bear wins us and the

553
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: bear doesn't run away. The bear just starts just moving

554
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: towards the woodline, just moving slowly towards the woodline. He'd

555
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: stop and look back. I don't think he's sauce a

556
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: doubt he would have seen us with his eyes, but

557
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: he could smell us and he would just walk. And

558
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: so I've got the gun up and I'm ranging, and

559
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, he's he's two now he's two twenty five.

560
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: And Devin is totally giving me the option to shoot

561
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: this bear. He's like, it's like, that's a good bear.

562
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, i'd say six plus and

563
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: then he said, that's probably a six and a half footbear.

564
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: That's what he's that's what you the conclusion you came to, yeah,

565
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: you that's a six and a half foot bear. And

566
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: and I but still I was like, should I shoot

567
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: that bear? Because and I learned something on this hunt

568
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna come back to and I'm gonna tell

569
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: you now though six and a half ft bear. Now,

570
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something later. That's the conclusion of

571
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: this whole thing. But I'm going to tell it to

572
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: you now so that you know it so when I

573
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: tell it to you later sense you'll make more sense.

574
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. Now you're talking. It's a joke. It's a joke,

575
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: like a humorous joke, but not humorous. It's a humorist joke.

576
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: Was thought, really that funny. A six and half foot

577
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: bear is a whopper bear. I don't care what you say.

578
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't care what your outfitter says. Six and half

579
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: foot bear. It's a big bear, good bear, that's what

580
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So anyway, But at the moment, at the moment,

581
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: we decided that Clay wasn't gonna shoot at six foot

582
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: six and a half ft bear, right right. I mean,

583
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: even now you can tell we're a little hesitant about it.

584
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: But so many things pointed against it, right and so well,

585
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: And and the primary thing for me was I had

586
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: been hunting for ten minutes, the bear was moving away.

587
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: We were gonna have to make a rush decision. And

588
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: there was there was doubt in everyone's voice. Every voice

589
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: around me was like, well, Dan, Dan kind of was

590
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: like he he was like, he was like, man, there's

591
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: we got it on film, Clay, you know, it's like

592
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: this maybe your chance. And in my expertise, that's a

593
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: ten ft bear. Dan's like, that's the world record black bear. No,

594
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: so we video the spare and basically the bear walks

595
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: off and I don't shoot and almost didn't really care

596
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: at the time. At the moment, at the moment, we

597
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: were kind of like proud of ourselves a little bit

598
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is like we are

599
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: the epitome of selective harvest. We were like, in two years,

600
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: that bear will be a whopper. I think I said that.

601
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: Two minutes later we we keep walking and it took

602
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: me about a total of five minutes to like deepen

603
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: my spirit, Like my my mind was still rationalizing why

604
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: this was such a brilliant decision to pass this bear,

605
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: but deep in my heart I was like, holy smull,

606
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: that was a nice bear. And the further we got,

607
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: the more Dan was like trying to make me feel

608
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: good about it. He's like, you're gonna be glad you

609
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: passed that bear, and I was like, yeah, you know,

610
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: I really want to I'd like to get like a

611
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: just a whopper. Anyway, we go about a k down

612
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: the road and we're talking, we're strategizing about how we're

613
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna get back on that bear. Devin starts saying, like,

614
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 1: you know, we could probably glass room right here if

615
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: we need to get back on that bear later in

616
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: a week. It's like we could probably And I'm I

617
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: mean like I'm already seeing this thing like play out

618
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: like and I'm like, we're gonna be hunting this bear

619
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: of the rest of the week, like and and Devin

620
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: had his camera with him which had a really good zoom,

621
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: and he had zoomed in really on this spar and

622
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: he starts watching the footage and he at some point

623
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: looks at me and goes, I think we made a mistake.

624
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: And he says, look at this and it it shows

625
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: the bear and he has this like it's like a

626
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: bear as a swagger, Like it's like there's a joint

627
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of his back and his front legs

628
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: just like pivot. Anyway, I look at it and I go, damn,

629
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: you're right. And I'm looking and I'm thinking about what

630
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: I saw in the scope. What I saw in the

631
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: scope with the thickness, I saw very little. I mean,

632
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: I saw a belly that hung low. I saw thick shoulders,

633
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw thickness. But for some reason, and

634
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: I think it had to do with that, the first

635
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: ten minutes of the hunt, it was rushed. I had initially,

636
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 1: when I immediately saw the bear, I thought, oh, that's

637
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: not a very big bear. And you know when we

638
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: were looking at Devon's camera after you pass it walking

639
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: k down, looking at the pictures of that bear that

640
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: zoomed in on that and seeing him walk like that,

641
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: that's when I just immediately I back to thinking a

642
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: council of bears. And that's when I looked at that picture,

643
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: saw him just kind of in his majesty presiding over

644
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: that big cut block, and I said, the councilman, the councilman.

645
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: So Dan names the bear the councilman, the councilman. And

646
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: we realized that maybe we had made a mistake, and

647
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: I really, I'm not gonna take this. I'm not gonna

648
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: give this responsibility. This is I had chose, and Devin

649
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: totally was like when I had the opportunity to shoot

650
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: me the first time, He's like clutched your decision, totally

651
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: your decision. Like he wasn't saying, don't shoot the bear.

652
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: He didn't say that at all. He was like, your decision,

653
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: your decision. It's a nice bear, your decision. Well, well yeah,

654
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: but you help. And so then we're like regret me.

655
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: But and this is when, this is when and I

656
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: got I just gotta tell the folks back home. When

657
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: I gave my spiel about why I believe that bear

658
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: would come back. The day before we had bumped a

659
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: bear off the road. Two days before, we bumped a

660
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: bear off the road, and humans walking down a logging

661
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: road with no trucks, no gravel popping, and all of

662
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, the bear that's feeding to what he feels

663
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 1: like it's a secure place, gets bumped off the road

664
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: by human odor. I feel like that bear And I'm

665
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: not saying he's not gonna come back a little wiser.

666
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: He'd be a little wiser about what happened. But there's

667
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: been a lot of active logging in this region. Like

668
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: we we saw logging trucks as we were coming in

669
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: and out. We actually saw tree planters about a a

670
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: k up the road that we're moving around, and this

671
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: bear had only smelled us, and so I said, hey,

672
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: I don't think we really hurt this bear much. I

673
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: don't think we bumped him that bad, because we're down

674
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: on the road, we're tunity yards from him, and he

675
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: had just smelled us. And so there was this inkling

676
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: of hope that the bear would come back. But I think,

677
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: deep down, at least Odd deep down, did not think

678
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: that he would come back that night. Now, tell me, honestly,

679
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: what did you think? Good? I guess I like, but

680
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: at the moment, like in the hunting situation, usually usually

681
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: things don't work in your favor, no, generally, So you know,

682
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking we'd come back tomorrow. Yeah, probably. But

683
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: Devin Devon uses a a lighter to test the wind,

684
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: and so right now currently the wind was coming up

685
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: the mountain, like blowing back into where bear wind. Yeah,

686
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: the initial like whift that had scared him pushed him

687
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: off the first time. And so Devon says, well, let's

688
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: wait till the thermal shift and we'll go back to

689
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: where we saw the bear and just maybe he'd be there.

690
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: And and you know, when you're holding the gun. When

691
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: it's your time to hunt, you just don't. A lot

692
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: of times you just don't think it's gonna work out perfect.

693
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: It couldn't possibly work out. The councilman. Surely he's no dummy.

694
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: He's no dummy. He didn't get that big and be

695
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: elected as councilman by being stupid. And so we sat

696
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: there for like thirty minutes, and we're regret I'm regretting it.

697
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel that regret. And Devin's lighting is lighter,

698
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: and there's just like a tipping point in the evening

699
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: when the thermal's just are to fall down the mountain.

700
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: And so the second that happened, we said let's go,

701
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: and we walked. I would say, no more than a

702
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: hundred yards down the road. Devon's out maybe thirty or

703
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: forty yards in front of us. We're still the men

704
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: the decision, Yeah, we really were. And Devin gives us

705
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: the I see a bear wave and I heard him

706
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: say there is just like there is, And I just

707
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: man that the thrill of hunting to me is found

708
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: in the first encounter with an animal, or like the

709
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: first like to me, when I'm white tail hunting every season,

710
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: I look forward to the first deer that I see

711
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: of the year from the stand, and I to this day,

712
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: if it's a dough, if it's a faun, my heart

713
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: skips a beat and it's just like it, dear, you know,

714
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: when I'm bear hunting, that first flash of black fur

715
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: from hunting over bay or what I mean, it's like

716
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: And that's what I was like for me, he said,

717
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: there is, and it's just like, you're kidding. I mean,

718
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: that's that's that's my that's my expletive, you're kidding, you

719
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: dirty canuck. You line to me, you can't trust them.

720
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: And so he goes there he is, and he gives us,

721
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: gives us the bear the bear wave, and I go,

722
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: come on, d and we just like start moving fast

723
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: and bam, I hit the ditch because there's a there's

724
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: a pretty nice little ditch there that I knew I

725
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: could get my body lower than the road and get

726
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: kind of a natural angle where I could be totally

727
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: prone on the ground because he's significantly yeah, he's I

728
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: would say, elevation wise, he was, yeah, two plus feet

729
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: above us, and he's in the woodline. And he had

730
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: all he had done was he went into the woods.

731
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: We watched him walk into the woods, and I mean

732
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: he just went up there and just laid down for

733
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: an hour. Bath room took him nap. Yeah, you could.

734
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: We could speculate on what he did. Well, they probably

735
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: attended chambers. Had what attended the chambers the council chambers anymore.

736
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: You said he probably went to the bathroom, looked at

737
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: the magazine. Maybe Red Bear. Don't even tell him thinks

738
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: you guys have been plotting. They've been plotting against me

739
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: all week as publisher Barony Magazine. We won't bring that

740
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: up though. So the councilman had gone into the gone

741
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: into the woods, and I mean just popped out in

742
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: the same spot. But he's what he's not as this

743
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: at the same spot that he was when we passed

744
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: on him. He's in the same cupblock, but he's further away.

745
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: So the first shot hundred seventies something this one, I'm

746
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: laying on my belly with briars like piercing me. You're

747
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: behind me with a camera. Devin's on his knees right

748
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: to the right of me, you know, glass and telling

749
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: me what the bears doing. And I range and I

750
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: get a range of four hundred some yards. So you know,

751
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is a shooter bear. He's

752
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: a great bear. We've had lots of time to think

753
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: about it. And not only that, but now he is,

754
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: he's a It's gonna be a significant shot, which is

755
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: what I wanted. That's what I wanted. I wanted it

756
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: and wanted it, and so I'm prone and I dialed

757
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: the Dillar tour at to four hundred yards on your husk,

758
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: the mall on my five by twenty and zoom that

759
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: bad boy up to twenty power and and I'm I'm

760
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: on the rest. And I truly was, um I was.

761
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: I was a little bit surprised at how nervous I was.

762
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: I was surprised at how my heartbeat impacted the bounce

763
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: of those cross hairs all over that bear at that distance,

764
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, like you just it was just like boom, boom, boom,

765
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: and like the gun was jumping with my heartbeat. And

766
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't tired from walking anywhere. It literally was like

767
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: adrenaling and excitement. I knew I needed to settle down,

768
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: but we also had lots of time. But and this

769
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: is where people mess up is you got lots of time.

770
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: But you there's this thing, there's this predatory instinct inside

771
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: of you that just wants to do it quick. I mean,

772
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: you're just like gotta get this done. I would say

773
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: from my experience with harvesting animals, that is the biggest

774
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: mistake that people make, is that like, when you see

775
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: what you're after, you think you've got to get it done.

776
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: And there are certain situations when you do. Yeah, there's

777
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: there's certainly situations when you when you when you have

778
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: to act quickly if you're gonna capitalize on an opportunity.

779
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean a mature hunter is gonna know

780
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: when that's the case and when it's not. And so

781
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: I had to like talk myself down to like this

782
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: bears not going anywhere because actually moving down the mountain,

783
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: I've got plenty of time. I can wait for my

784
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: heartbeat to slow down, breathe, and so at that point

785
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: like talk myself down, and the situation just unfolded. I

786
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: had a veteran bow hunter from from Arkansas one time

787
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: tell me something is really simple, but it it's meant

788
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: a lot to me over the year. It's really simple.

789
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: But he said, most bow hunters make a mistake because

790
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: they don't let the situation unfold before them. They try

791
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: to ach or the opportunity. They don't make the opera.

792
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: They don't let the opportunity unfold. They try to make

793
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: the opportunity happen. Force it. You can't force it. If

794
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: you force it, you'll mess it up. You can't force

795
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: the council. You can't force the councilman to do anything.

796
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: Not this, not no. So Devin has given me the

797
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: play by play of what he's doing because he's thinking

798
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot at any second. He's like broadside bears

799
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: behind a rock quarter in two. I mean, it's a

800
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: great commentary. It's like having a spotter that's just and

801
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching the bear, but it's it's confirming. He's confirming

802
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: what my eyes are seeing. So it's given me confidence.

803
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: And it actually played out really good one time, because

804
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: I thought at one point I thought the bear was

805
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: quartered away, just because like this black blob is just

806
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: like moving through brush through rocks, And at one time

807
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: my perception of what happened was contradictory to what he said,

808
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: and I was actually about to shoot, and then he

809
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: said I was like, wait a minute, and I reevaluated

810
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: what I was seeing, and I was like, oh, the

811
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: bear is actually quartering to me, so you know, he's

812
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: like spotting for me, just like broadside quartering to moving

813
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: down behind the rock, brushing away. Da da da da dada.

814
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: When the bear was close to four in her yards,

815
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: he was broadside and I was actually gonna squeeze. I mean,

816
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: it was on and I waiting, you know, trying not

817
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: to anticipate when the gun is gonna go off, and

818
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: the squeeze just gets harder and harder and harder, and

819
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: I really know the trigger pulling, it's kind of shot

820
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: it enough and pretty much I realized I'm like jamming

821
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: on the trigger and I'm like the safety time click.

822
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: So I had, you know, lift my head, clicked the

823
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: safety off de breath, you know, because I just knew

824
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: I was about to squeezed the trigger. Safety was on. Well,

825
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: by this time, the bear's reposition moved and it was

826
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: probably another solid five minutes before I shot. How long

827
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: y'all think we actually did that? When we watched him

828
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: for a long time, I think it was five minutes.

829
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: And when you're looking through the scope at a bear,

830
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: that's a long time. So so the bear moves down

831
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: and he was at four hundre yards to begin with,

832
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: and every time he's moving, he's actually getting closer to us,

833
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: kind of just snaking down through this cut block. I'm

834
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: ranging from my belly and it was really disrupting to

835
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: have to range because you're you're down on the scope

836
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: and you got him found, you're on twenty power. He's

837
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: hard to see kind of and then he's moving and

838
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: you're like, well, he's probably moved ten and fifteen yards

839
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: and range him again. So you raise your head up,

840
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: you range him, and by the time you find him again,

841
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: he's moved a little bit further. And so Devin kept

842
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: saying he's moved, but it's not a significant distance, or

843
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: he's moved laterally, so there's not any further than he was.

844
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: So that was helpful because because I would be like,

845
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: i gotta range him again, he said, no, he's he's

846
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: basically at the same range. So that was helpful. And

847
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: so finally the bear turns roadside boom, and the bear

848
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: was at three and fifty yards per the range. Founder

849
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: and I lose track of the bear in the scope,

850
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: but these guys are both watching it and they see

851
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: the bear run up the hill maybe eight yards, and

852
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: it's really kind of spectacular to me, the bears running

853
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: up pretty steep incline and just tips over backwards with

854
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: feet straight up in the air and just starts rolling

855
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: down the hill. I mean it was like, and I

856
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: was jacking in another shell to shoot him again, because

857
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: all that I saw was a shot and the bear ran. Yeah,

858
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: And so I'm jacking another shell in and before I

859
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: can even get another shell in, Devon's like, he's down,

860
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: He's paws up, paws up, and Dan says, Councilman's down.

861
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: Meetings of journey. The meetings of journed. Councilman. Session is

862
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: closed session, it's closed. And so I was excited, I

863
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: really was. And and to me it was a unique

864
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: experience student animal at For me, what was long range?

865
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: I mean for Western guys, that's pretty far for real,

866
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: for real life panting three fifties, not close, right, yeah,

867
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: And so so most of my hunting of recent years

868
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: has been very close range, I mean hunting with traditional archery. Man,

869
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: I want to be within twelve yards of him, and so,

870
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: but this was an equal compelling experience to shoot one

871
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: of that far and the way I would describe it

872
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: is that it's almost like you know, uh, it's it's

873
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a magical experience to be

874
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: that far from an animal and to boom and he dies. Well,

875
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: it's a whole different skill set and very specific that

876
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: differs widely from traditional archer or a bow hunting. And

877
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: it's super I mean when you say every time your

878
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: heart beat, those crosshairs would bounce as would bounce a

879
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: foot is the bear, you know. It's so it's crazy

880
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: and and it what gave what was really cool was

881
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: having a very accurate weapon. I mean that gun is

882
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: a shooter big time, and so that gives you the

883
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: confidence that the bullet's gonna hit where the crosshairs are

884
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: on that And it's a great thing about it is

885
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: you can trust that gun. The bad thing about it

886
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: is if there's a mess up, you only have one

887
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: person to blame. Yeah, So we go up to the

888
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: bear and it just spectacular scenery. I mean, you're just

889
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: you feel like you're on top of the world. That's

890
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: what you were saying. It's like you killed a bear

891
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: onp of because you did. We're we're looking at across

892
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: this huge glacial valley, snow capped mountains, just spectacular, and

893
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: to me, that was the highlight of it to me

894
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: to kill a bear. You know, bears are iconic of

895
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: North American wilderness, and you need to kill a bear

896
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: in the wilderness and it that's the experience, that's the adventure,

897
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: that's the fun, is where these critters live. And so

898
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: that was so cool. And so we get up to

899
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: the bear and I mean, he's just he's a thumper.

900
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way. I just don't know how

901
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: anybody would pass this bear. I think immediately from you know, again,

902
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: no one very little about bear, but no one the

903
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: bear that I had shot the day before, and I'm

904
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: so devon again, probably would want me to wait, but

905
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: I just wanted one so bad. But then seeing immediately

906
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: walking up on this bear, it was like, oh, okay,

907
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: that's a big bear. It's just huge, spectacular coat. Oh man,

908
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: the fur on these bears is as good as any

909
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: fur I've ever seen on a black bear. Now I

910
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: want to measure the fur on the rump of my bear.

911
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be five inches long, and

912
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to confirm that it's long. At the highest point,

913
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, at the longest point, but the bear and

914
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: so here's the here's the here's the cut to the chase.

915
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: Is the bear ended up square and six and a

916
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: half foot exactly exactly what Devon a ridged in the league.

917
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: You know, when he really evaluated, he was like from

918
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: sixth and far and so. And then to go back

919
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: to the spoiler alert that already spoiled you with minutes ago,

920
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna spoil you with now, is that a

921
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: six and a half foot bear is a whopper, especially

922
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: if it's thick. I mean, I suspect you could shoot

923
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: a six and a half footbear that didn't weigh as

924
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: much as the spear. I'm I'm kind of funny when

925
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: it comes to wait. I usually I try to estimate

926
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: on the underside of what it weighed. I think that

927
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: bear in a range would have weighed three to three

928
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: seventy five probably pretty close. Yeah, yeah, And that's a

929
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: toad of a spring bear. So this bear was you know,

930
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: the six six and see in the bear oting community

931
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: like seven foot is like the mark. But I want

932
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: to draw the mark and say seven foots at whopper bear.

933
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: I've killed a lot of bears. I've never killed as

934
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: a true seven ft square bear, and I and and

935
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: I've killed bears that way five pounds, four and thirty

936
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: five pounds. Uh. So what I'm saying is is that

937
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: kind of in hunting, you know, you you get these

938
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: things like, oh, you gotta kill a hundred and fifty

939
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: white tail. Well I'm telling you I travel across the

940
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: globe to kill a hundred forty white tail in my bow.

941
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: That's just the truth. Now, if I've lived in Iowa

942
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: and it was a resident hunter, I mean maybe that'd

943
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: be different. But so I'll just go on the record

944
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 1: saying I'll travel across the globe to kill a six

945
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: and a half foot big, old, mean, stinky black bear.

946
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, yes, so awesome, awesome experience in the

947
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: high country of British Columbia, Canada. Um, we got the

948
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: bear out, We took out all the meat, even cut

949
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: off a little rack of ribs, which, uh, the meat

950
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be holly utilized. And Devin, what do you

951
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: have to say about all this? Just another day in

952
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: the Canadian wilderness? Boys now closing comments? Devin, just like,

953
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: do you have any like anything you would add to

954
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: or just even your experience with guiding hunters or fair

955
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: hunting is definitely like an adventure a hunter should try

956
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: because it's so it's not anything like hunting the antlered species, right,

957
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: so it's just a totally different thing. A spring bear

958
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: hunting especially is nice because they're so day active. Um,

959
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: so it's an awesome adventure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I

960
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: throw in a little tidbit of trivia here? It is

961
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: your podcast, so we kind of have to listen. I

962
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: don't even have a podcast, okay. No. Devin Devon told

963
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: us last night that his first memory. He tricked us

964
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: because he said, hey, guys, what's your first memory? And

965
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: me and Daniel said something stupid like I remember like

966
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: riding my bike down the hill. And Devin goes, my

967
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: first memory was I was in my yard. Can I

968
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: tell this? Is it? Okay? Yeah? I think it's cool.

969
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm comfortable with you opening up

970
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: Devon's deepest well he said, it's okay, fire discussion. No, no,

971
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna no, no, no, he said. He said

972
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: his first memory as a little boy, he was in

973
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: his front yard and Bruce, Columbia, Canada, and bear walks

974
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: by and no one had told him about bear hunting.

975
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: No one had told him that humans could kill bears.

976
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: And hold would have been like three four somewhere, and

977
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: he thought, I want to kill that bear, gun shaped stick, root,

978
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: kill that bear. I don't want to kill that bear.

979
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: And now here we are, and that's what Devin does

980
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: killing bear where thing was even at four years old

981
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: he was six to Yeah, you could walk over a

982
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: mountain and three sticks and he had legs like I'll

983
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: get your raft way out of proportion to the rest

984
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: of his body. Uh So, Dan So closing thoughts, Devin Jewels,

985
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: Pacific Bear Outfitters, come check it out. Yeah, you got

986
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: put in a shameless plug for your find organizations. Bear

987
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: Outfitters custom high quality hunts for large coastal black bear. Yeah.

988
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: And I will say that Devin is the god. I mean,

989
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: like you're not been here and there's not like six

990
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: in camp. I mean Dave, Dan and I are the

991
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: only hunters in camp. Uh Now, Dave our our hero.

992
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: Dave is a cook and it's here just like as

993
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: a support. He's an awesome guy. So I mean, like Devon,

994
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: if you come here, I would said, there's a good

995
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: chance that Devon will be guide in here if if

996
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: there were two people that needed God's Devon has close

997
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: friends that are guides that will guide as well, that

998
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: know this area that can. But but a lot of

999
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 1: times you go on to guide and hunt and you

1000
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: book hunt with an outfitter and then you spend the

1001
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: week with some kid you don't know. Ye, And that's

1002
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: not a bad I don't want to paint that as

1003
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 1: like a negative thing. That's just the way it is. Yeah,

1004
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: And so the in every every camp there's a little

1005
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: bit of something different that might appealed to somebody. But

1006
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: if you talk to Devon, he's the one you're gonna

1007
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: be hunting with ya, you know, And so that's cool.

1008
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: I think that's cool. So he he takes a lot

1009
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: of personal responsibility for the success of these hunts, and

1010
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he just works hard. And that's why I'm

1011
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: back for the second time. And I will tell you

1012
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: as publisher Barony Magazine, Uh, you know, have access to

1013
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: a lot of different opportunities, which comes to Black Bear.

1014
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: And so for me to go to a place twice

1015
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: means means something. It really does. I mean for me

1016
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: just being a normal guy, and I come because I'm

1017
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: your friend. I'm on you know, taking your word for it.

1018
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: But I just had no idea of about bear hunting,

1019
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: just seeing pictures of it and heard stories, but had

1020
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: no idea everything that goes into it. And I intentionally

1021
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: set my expectations really low. But in my heart of hearts,

1022
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: I wanted everything. I wanted all I wanted, uh like

1023
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: dramatic scenery, amazing experience, adventure. I wanted fun. I wanted

1024
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: to laugh the whole time with a friend. And and

1025
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: I want I thought, I want to spend a whole

1026
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: week with a guy that I don't even know. Is

1027
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: how's that gonna be? What's that gonna be? Like I

1028
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: wanted to kill a bear. I wanted to eat and food,

1029
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: you know. On the I had set my expectations a

1030
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: little bit deep down. I wanted everything, and all of

1031
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: it has way exceeded anything I could have ever won.

1032
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: Like on the way here, everybody may have been like

1033
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: three days before when you're at my house, I really

1034
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: hadn't told you, like the arrangements of camp that we

1035
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: would each have our own wall tent, and and Dan

1036
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: was like I thought it was gonna be me and

1037
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: you in the outfit a little a little pop up

1038
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: tent on the side of something mountain. He was like

1039
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: totally pumped for months thinking about this hunt, just thinking

1040
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: we'll be like roughing it. But but man, we're at

1041
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: a really comfortable camp. Each you know, all of us

1042
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: have different quite large wall tent. I got my stuff

1043
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: just like Strode out all. It's like my cabin up there,

1044
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: and so it's real comfortable and eating. We're eating hot food.

1045
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: We're you know, we got we just got what we

1046
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: need here. Um. And I will say to this would

1047
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: be something different than I've seen before for bear outfitters,

1048
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: is that that Devon uh fleshes and salts the entire

1049
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: bear so that you don't have to take it home frozen.

1050
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: And they also clean the skulls while you're here, if possible, Yeah,

1051
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: if you if we have enough time, if you don't

1052
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: kill a bear on like the last day. Yeah, And

1053
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: so basically he saved us a couple of hundred bucks

1054
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: minimum in texting the work. We still have taken this

1055
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: bear to the text on us to get whatever done

1056
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: with that. We're going to do with it. But usually

1057
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: you'd have to pay someone quite a bit to take

1058
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: out the paws take out the head, flash the hide,

1059
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: salta hide. So he's done a lot of work. So

1060
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty unique, and it'll be super easy. It's easy

1061
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: for us to get it back through Canadian customs. We

1062
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about lots of these huts. I'm

1063
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: worried about a frozen hide, Like you pull the hide

1064
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: out and it's frozen, and you're on the time clock

1065
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: after that, and so you're worried, Well, what if it

1066
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: gets lost on the way back and I have to

1067
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 1: wait two days for it to arrive and the hides run.

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean, these highs are salted and they would be

1069
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: good for months. Yeah, so they're they're good list. So

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01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: that's a little Thing's awesome. We've ate good. We've had

1071
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: lots of coffee, We've had lots of gatorade, We've had

1072
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: lots of French toads. And he made some whopper awesome

1073
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: double fried French fried and he's gonna do it again

1074
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: today for us. He's gonna make those franchise make the cut,

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01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: those French fries amazing, amazing form real Canadian potatoes. Yeah,

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01:08:47,960 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 1: not that Idaho. So eight