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Speaker 1: I was reading some of the scores today. Jags forty

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Speaker 1: But there's also some great matchups. Let's start with Denver

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Speaker 1: thirty four twenty six over green Bay. Not only a

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Speaker 1: Bow Nicks had a really good dan and I've got

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And he had all sorts of He had an

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Speaker 2: even Keenan Allen think they didn't play great. They had

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Speaker 2: some drops that they had, some plays went against them.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I just think this is a

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Speaker 2: classic Jim Harbaugh. You give a random coach in the

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Speaker 2: NFL this roster, what do they win six games? You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean they've been missing their tackles, their quarterbacks getting crushed.

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Speaker 2: I have been remarkable.

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Speaker 1: They're they're Trey Harris, Lad McConkie, Trey Harris. I went

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Speaker 1: to dinner with their GM, the Chargers GM, last week,

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Speaker 1: and he said, Jim loves Trey Harris. He's really emerging

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Speaker 1: as a player. He said, I don't think he's dropped

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Speaker 1: a ball in practice all year. So Maconkie, Harris, Quinton Johnson,

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Speaker 1: their tight ends are okay, they're kind of you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, they're kind of you know, it's they're

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Speaker 1: kind of making it work offensively, but they have a

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Speaker 1: way to win, and it's Dick or the kicker, play

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Speaker 1: good defense, Herbert run to pick up first downs. I

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Speaker 1: will say I believe I wrote this down fourteen of

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Speaker 1: mahomes sixteen completions, seven to Kelsey who's probably retiring and

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Speaker 1: seven to Rashi Rice, who I don't trust to stay

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Speaker 1: healthy or you know, I just don't trust them yet.

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Speaker 1: I think he is talented, but I think it's more

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Speaker 1: of a rebuild than a retool. And my take is

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Speaker 1: everybody keeps saying, well, there's Reid and Mahomes this division,

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Speaker 1: now Denver and the Chargers. If the Chargers bring their

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Speaker 1: offensive tackles back, those are elite teams. So and I

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Speaker 1: look at the Denver's roster right now, I think it's

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Speaker 1: much deeper. Look at the wide of receiving. Even guys

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Speaker 1: like Franklin who get forgotten had a touchdown Caday, I

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Speaker 1: think they got to retooler offensive line. Carl Loftis is

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Speaker 1: probably a bit overpaid. He's a big cap hit next year.

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones isn't the same player. I mean, the good

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Speaker 1: news for them they're gonna draft in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the rounds now in which they haven't done for seven

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Speaker 1: or eight years. They need to hit on three or

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Speaker 1: four draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think for the first time in a long time,

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Speaker 2: they're not going to be drafting thirty two. They're better

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Speaker 2: off now losing out in drafting twelfth because it's not

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Speaker 2: just twelfth or thirteenth. It's then you draft fortieth and

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Speaker 2: they have not had that luxury because they've been in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl every year. So I listen, Travis Kelt

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Speaker 2: is probably gonna retire, right he retires. I think I

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Speaker 2: was looking at Chris Jones doing podcasts up this week.

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Speaker 2: You're probably trading him this offseason because you're not going

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Speaker 2: to extend him again. His cap hit is massive. He

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Speaker 2: would still have value, you know, for the teams that

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Speaker 2: have some cap space. I would imagine look at Joe

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Speaker 2: Tooney when they traded him to the Bears. Andy Reid said,

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Speaker 2: he's like one of my favorite players I've ever coach.

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Speaker 2: It's the crappy part of the business. When you've got

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Speaker 2: some guys making a lot of money, we couldn't keep

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Speaker 2: them financially. So you got Simmons who's on injury reserve

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Speaker 2: because he's injured. You hit on some draft picks, you know,

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Speaker 2: you try to finagle the cap, get some guys to

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Speaker 2: try to come with Mahomes. We'll see the Mahomes injury

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Speaker 2: and try to retool it. But you might be two

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Speaker 2: years away from being back to really good. Then you know,

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Speaker 2: next year, this is Denver's got a little window right

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Speaker 2: now this year and next year because they got this

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Speaker 2: cheap quarterback and they've hit on a bunch of defensive players.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Hufunga is as good as any player that

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Speaker 2: Kansas City has on their day, and he's just a

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Speaker 2: free agent that they added to one of the best defenses.

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Speaker 1: It's been confirmed Torn acl for Patrick Mahomes, so that's

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Speaker 1: possibly out next year. I mean, I always say with

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Speaker 1: young athletes, they always recover faster than you think. And

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Speaker 1: you're talking to best. The Hunt family doesn't go cheap.

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Speaker 1: It'll be the best doctors in the world. You think

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Speaker 1: he's out next year, and he's he come back somewhere

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Speaker 1: trade deadline eight, game eight, game nine, game ten.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you say young athletes, I mean he's been

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Speaker 2: around a little. You know, he's not twenty four. I

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Speaker 2: mean he's thirty. A lot of wear and terror in

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Speaker 2: those legs. He just to me, I think we kind

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Speaker 2: of got jaded by Adrian Peterson when he came back

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Speaker 2: in like two months, and you see guys randomly come

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Speaker 2: back in eight nine months. This guy's kind of the

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Speaker 2: key to the franchise, right I I think you treat

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Speaker 2: this a little different than you do most players. Does

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Speaker 2: this impact you know, you know Kelsey who most of

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Speaker 2: us assumes going to retire, or does this kind of

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Speaker 2: lock that in you just never you know, Coach Reid's

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Speaker 2: getting up there in age late sixties. What at this

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Speaker 2: point in time, what does he have to prove? I

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Speaker 2: you know, I think just brings in a lot of

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Speaker 2: question marks with a lot of different things. Obviously he

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Speaker 2: was he's been banged up, and that's a devastating injury.

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Speaker 2: I mean it really is, especially late, you know, December fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: on the day you get knocked out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I would assume, you know, base on this injury, that

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Speaker 2: we've come a long way, that he'd be ready to go,

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Speaker 2: you know, early on the season. But aren't you a

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Speaker 2: little more careful with this individual than you would be

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Speaker 2: with ninety nine percent of other players in the league.

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Speaker 1: And you've had so much equity built into the franchise

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Speaker 1: and the fan base, right like I think you you

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Speaker 1: play it cautious. You know, you don't rush this stuff back.

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Speaker 1: You've built in built up so much credibility with your fans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's it's like almost you know when Jordan

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Speaker 1: left and came back, you know, just like it's like

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Speaker 1: he never left did baseball for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Nobody was given their season tickets up right, Like It's

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Speaker 1: just I think I think Kansas City and he's always

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Speaker 1: been a good early season September coach. If he comes

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Speaker 1: back Week seven to eight, I'm not going to speculate

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Speaker 1: too much. They'll be fine. They just have to hit

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Speaker 1: on some draft picks. And I think I think it

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Speaker 1: was just sort of the lost year. You hear about

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Speaker 1: economy sometimes a last decade, a lost year. It just

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Speaker 1: felt like everybody was tired, everybody was fatigued. They liked

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Speaker 1: a little energy consistency. They started this season without Rashid Rice.

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Speaker 1: You know, Worthy gets banged up, left Simmons, Josh Simmons

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Speaker 1: left tackle, couldn't get it right, not available, Joe Tooney

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Speaker 1: had to move off him, goes to the Bears. This

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Speaker 1: just didn't feel right from the very beginning.

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Speaker 2: You know, I listen, I know Andy and Veitch, and

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Speaker 2: I know they don't think like this, But if he's

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Speaker 2: not able to play till let's say late in the season,

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Speaker 2: what if you could kind of do next year as

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Speaker 2: a reset year. You know, you end up drafting thirteen

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Speaker 2: fourteenth this year and he's not ready, and maybe he

547
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Speaker 2: gets a red shirt almost next year and you kind

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Speaker 2: of bottom out get to retool the roster. So you're

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Speaker 2: almost looking ahead to twenty twenty seven. Maybe you get

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Speaker 2: like the six pick. Now, he's probably too good of

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Speaker 2: a coach to be that crappy, even if they had

552
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Speaker 2: a garnerment. But maybe you're just drafting tenth again, back

553
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Speaker 2: to back years of good drafts and kind of get

554
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Speaker 2: to siphon out some of these older, high priced guys.

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Speaker 2: You get him back fully healthy in twenty seven. Again,

556
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Speaker 2: he would fall out of his chair. He doesn't, you know,

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Speaker 2: they don't think like that. But like you saw this year,

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Speaker 2: they were like a car out of gas and you

559
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Speaker 2: could feel it when you watch it. And now this injury,

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Speaker 2: I mean you have to imagine the wear and tear

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Speaker 2: on Patrick Mahomes. How much have they depended on him

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Speaker 2: to scramble around the hiss he's taken the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years, And if you probably add up all their

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Speaker 2: playoff games, it's borderline extra season over the last five years.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I think it's also just a

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Speaker 2: devastating as long as it's not you know him and

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Speaker 2: Parsons like, there's a lot of DeVante got hurt, had

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Speaker 2: we had a lot of star power today go down

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's just the wear and tear of the season.

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Speaker 2: These guys don't practice quite the same as they used to,

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Speaker 2: so you're just playing these games at warp speed. People

572
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Speaker 2: have never been faster. But you looked up at one

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Speaker 2: time today over a course about thirty minutes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there were some big time names, some big time salaries

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Speaker 2: walking to the blue tanner in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: And now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes, Whiskey Business,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the official whiskey

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Speaker 1: of the Colin Coward Podcast. Buffalo thirty five New England one,

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Speaker 1: Patriots up twenty one nothing and twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 1: Completely dominate the first half. Now this is an interesting

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Speaker 1: one because I say I was gonna bet this game.

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Speaker 1: I like New England. They just dominate the first half.

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Speaker 1: This is the fourth time Josh Allen is four and oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if any other quarterbacks ever done in

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Speaker 1: this the history of the league. When he has to

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Speaker 1: score thirty points to win. He's four to oh. He

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Speaker 1: had a sensational second half. But the two things my

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Speaker 1: two takeaways on this game is, I've been saying this

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Speaker 1: all year, Rabel, Josh McDaniel. When you have an elite

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Speaker 1: coach and then a top two or three coordinator either

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, that is, that's a handful. Like

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Speaker 1: right now Shanahan Robert Sala, you have an elite coach

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Speaker 1: and a top two or three coordinator. You have Josh

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Speaker 1: McDaniel's a coordinator. He's probably the best offensive coordinator, one

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Speaker 1: of the top two in the league. And then Vrabel

596
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Speaker 1: is they were great on script, great, great game plan,

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Speaker 1: but in the end, you can't stop Josh Allen. But Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: like Kansas City, great co selp s out on my

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Speaker 1: show this week, it's hard to watch their defense and go, oh,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of exceptional players. It's just okay, they have

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Speaker 1: James Cook, Josh Allen, Ken Kaid. I mean this is

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Speaker 1: I think how they have to win. They have to

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Speaker 1: win shootouts, which considering Sean McDermott supposed to be the

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Speaker 1: defensive guru, they're just not very good defensively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I talked to a Buddy in the

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Speaker 2: league this week and he's advanced them and he said

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Speaker 2: one issue they have is they're not very big, so

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Speaker 2: you can really lean on them, and I mean New

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Speaker 2: England was rushing all over them. I think one mistake

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Speaker 2: New England made in this game is the last couple drives,

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Speaker 2: they had a three and out and obviously the four

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Speaker 2: and out that turnover on downs. They only ran the

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Speaker 2: ball one of those seven plays, and they hit multiple

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Speaker 2: big plays in the run, obviously with Henderson, and they

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Speaker 2: kind of tried to have Drake may turn into Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen and it kind of bit them. And I thought

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Speaker 2: that they could have leaned on Buffalo a little bit

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Speaker 2: that you had time out, you had time, and they

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Speaker 2: got a little pass happy those last couple drives. And listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's trying to match Josh or

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Speaker 2: you know, just thinking that Drake's had a great season.

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Speaker 2: He can make plays and their offense just sputtered at

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Speaker 2: the wrong time. But it doesn't it feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: like you, I don't care that much about awards, you know,

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Speaker 2: MVP Coach of the Year, So it's pretty clear who

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Speaker 2: the best guys are, whether they get the award or not.

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Speaker 2: It does feel a little bit like Michael Jordan in

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Speaker 2: the NBA. It's like, you give the MVP to someone

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Speaker 2: else if you want this year, but Josh Allen's the

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Speaker 2: best player in the league, you know, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's like I see all these the odds and maybe

632
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: they'll end up changing these last couple of weeks. Like

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love was near the top of the list, and

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love's solid, but he's not Josh Allen, not even close, right,

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Speaker 2: And this year it feels like, especially down the stretch,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's twenty one nothing on the road. I

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Speaker 2: don't know about you, but you just even if Josh

638
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: is remarkable, it's like, how are they gonna win that game?

639
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: This defense is getting shredded. And then they they had

640
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: a stretch where they they had five straight drives, five

641
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: straight touchdowns. I mean they're down twenty one to three,

642
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they have, you know, a commanding lead.

643
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: So it was these last month for Josh Allen is

644
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: like one of the defining moments of his career. He's

645
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: just he's the franchise was teetering on like they might

646
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs, and he said not so fast, guys.

647
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: I'll take care of it and listen. Cook, Kinkate Knox.

648
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: Knox made some big plays. Shaki had some big plays.

649
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: They're receivers in the rapport they have with Josh in

650
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: these freezing cold games. It's not like they're playing you

651
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: watched Golf and Stafford today. I mean, what's it inside

652
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: Sofi Stadium? Seventy two degrees is perfect? You know you're

653
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: you're hot these games. He's playing down the stretch of

654
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: the season in inclement weather. He looks I don't remember

655
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: like peak Lway in the mid eighties, but it has

656
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: to look something like this doesn't and he's even a

657
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: better runner.

658
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Speaker 1: And I think New England the second half kind of

659
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: confirmed it. Trevon Henderson had a huge game, but I

660
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: did think the second half confirmed And this is something

661
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: I think we both said multiple times. They're still kind

662
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: of john in a small rebuild. It's a good roster.

663
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: They don't have a number one receiver. They had their

664
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: banged up on their offensive line. They have missing two starters.

665
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: I think they need I don't. I think athletically on

666
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: defense that Christian Gonzalez is great, but they could probably

667
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: use another edge Rusher like, I think New England's four

668
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: to five draft picks, a free agent signing away from

669
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Speaker 1: being like a Denver or a rams So. And I

670
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: think in the second half you're like, there's not a

671
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: lot of juice. There was a couple of great catches

672
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: today by Booty like, but there's not a lot of

673
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: juice in that receiving corps. And you saw that in

674
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: the offseason. You go out and draft somebody high. But

675
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: I think, listen, New England has overachieved by any metric.

676
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: But I thought when I watched the second half, I'm like,

677
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: MVP of the league, a team that still needs about

678
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: four to five players to be like a number one

679
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: seed and feel like Denver, where you may have six,

680
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: seven eight Pro bowlers, I don't think New England has five.

681
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: Well, I agree, I mean today was their opportunity to

682
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: win the division. I mean this was and to be

683
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: up twenty one nothing, to be up twenty one to three,

684
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: to be at home, the place going nuts, you get

685
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: two runs, even the second run, right he had taken

686
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: retaken the lead, the Bills did, and they'd come storming

687
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: back and then and then Henderson just makes a play

688
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: that he probably would make.

689
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Speaker 1: It high school.

690
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean that was remarkable. I mean the play was

691
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: stuffed him run around, he'd go. I mean he said

692
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: he's been huge for them the second half of the season.

693
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: I think they said today that he had ties the

694
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: rookie record for four rushes, four rushing touchdowns for over

695
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 2: fifty yards, ties like Saquon Barkley in his rookie season.

696
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: So that's a loss if you're a New England that

697
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to say like ruin your season because,

698
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: like you said, I mean how they have been. It's

699
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: not just last year. They were bad, the last couple

700
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: of years of Belichick. They've been bad for a while.

701
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: But this was an opportunity to kind of end this

702
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: run for Buffalo. Now they still got the Jets and

703
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: we'll see how the Dolphins look tomorrow to end the season.

704
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: But next week at the Ravens, Buffalo's got a ton

705
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: of momentum. Now, I think this is one that you

706
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: lose some sleep, and you know, very Bowl tough guy

707
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: running offense. I think to get so pass happy down

708
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: the stretch when you were rushing with ease on these guys,

709
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: I think that's something even if you run like a

710
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: quarterback power to Drake may is something because, like you said,

711
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: they don't have Randy Moss and Gronk and Edelman out there.

712
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: That's not really They're depending on Diggs and you know

713
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: Hunter Henry to make some big catches. So when you

714
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: put it on a young quarterback and let's face these

715
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: human being, he's got to get a little tight. As

716
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: the game all of a sudden, we're killing him and

717
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 2: now we're down.

718
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Just looking at Josh Allen the league on the other side.

719
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: That is, and this is you start seeing the way

720
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 2: this like Chargers obviously very flawed, the Jags are actually

721
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: playing really well right now. Same with the Texans. Uh,

722
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: you know, Denver they still got you know, bo Nick's

723
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: a young quarterback. It's it's still pretty open. No one's

724
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: gonna be shocked at any given outcome in a playoff game.

725
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: And Buffalo's got to go, well, we're gonna have the

726
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: best player in every one of these games that we

727
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: play come January. Now, do we have the best roster? No,

728
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 2: but this guy has proven that. You know, that's where

729
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: their defense isn't good enough, Like that Thursday night game

730
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: when Houston just sacked him like fifty times like that.

731
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: That's New England's not going to have the capability to

732
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: do that. And you just if you can't do that

733
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: to him, he can just take over. I don't know.

734
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been a live forty years. I just

735
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: don't remember many people with the with the combination like

736
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: we've seen Cam Newton the physical runner, or you know,

737
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: got Brady and Rogers the unreal passers. He can do

738
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: them both. He's just an unstoppable force when he gets

739
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: when he gets rolling.

740
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Speaker 1: Now you get the best of Elway's arm, you get

741
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,400
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742
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Speaker 1: All right, Chicago hammers Cleveland thirty one to three. Again,

749
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: this is several weeks in a row now or Caleb

750
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: Williams very balanced offense, running pass Caleb couple of touchdowns

751
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: to DJ Moore. One looked like an optical illusion. I've

752
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: been still though. No, no, he got it. Caleb one

753
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve passer rating, seventeen of what is it

754
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: twenty eight two touchdowns. He doesn't throw a lot of picks.

755
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: He had one last week against Green Bay. Chadur a

756
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: little bit overwhelmed. I mean, listen, it was it was

757
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: not you know. One of the balls that was intercepted

758
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: by Jalen Johnson was actually a great throw and Jerry

759
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: Judy had it pulled out of his hands.

760
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: It was an actually a great cool collusion. You couldn't

761
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: even tell, like what just happened. The announcer didn't even understand.

762
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: So I think, I guess my takeaway on the Bears

763
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: is from game planning to second half adjustments to the

764
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: weapons john they look and feel like a playoff team.

765
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: There's three things that are very important to be a

766
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: playoff team. To me. One, they're a physical team. Their

767
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: physicality on offense, running the game that matters in the postseason.

768
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: Finesse teams. There's never been like a Sunshine dynasty in

769
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: the NFL, even a Dome dynasty. You've got to be

770
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: a physical team. Second thing, they're explosive, you know what

771
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: they can you know, Seattle, the Rams, they can get

772
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: themselves back into a game. Detroit's got that. They can

773
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: get themselves back into a game very quickly with their

774
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: big time playmakers. Buffalo can't necessarily it's all Josh Allen.

775
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: They don't have a downfield threat, but they've got you know,

776
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: DJ Moore and Caleb Williams. They're also balanced, they're not

777
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: dependent on anything. The other thing is they're a cold

778
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: weather team. They're not going to be a warm weather

779
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: team going north and feeling like out of their element.

780
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: They're playing in cold weather. They're comfortable, they run, they're physical,

781
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: they're balanced. You know, this was one of the many

782
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: blowouts today, but I think officially going to Philly and

783
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: win blowout here Green Bay final series. This is the

784
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: playoff looking team to me.

785
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's a division winning looking team to me. I mean,

786
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: I'll think the l KLEB the last month has been fantastic.

787
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: That throw he mad, the optical illusion throw that you

788
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: still couldn't tell where it hit Dj Moore, I mean

789
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: that was that was Josh Allen. John Elway in his prime,

790
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: I mean rolling to his right, the absolute cannon across

791
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 2: the field. I mean that was pretty elite stuff. What's

792
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: crazy about him, right, is like now I get it

793
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: new offense. Ben's pretty intense. You would have thought that

794
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: as it got colder, if he was being pretty inaccurate,

795
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: it could get a lot worse. I mean, how many

796
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: degrees was in Chicago today? Single digits? It was not warm?

797
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: He agrees. When I woke up, Yeah.

798
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: He looks in incomplete command to come off that. I

799
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: mean that that was a really good loss. But sometimes

800
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: a loss you're playing a crappy team. You're playing the Packers.

801
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: Next the Packers. Now with these injuries, Detroit loses today.

802
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Chicago wins this game this week in I

803
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: think it's a Saturday night game or Saturday all. All

804
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they have two more wins than green Bay.

805
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Detroit is in trouble and Minnesota's dead. So

806
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: after that Green Bay game, you went, Okay, green Bay

807
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: is probably gonna win this division. Chicago is going to

808
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: be a wild card. That's a phenomenal season. I think

809
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 2: you could look up in Chicago would be a twelve

810
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: win division champion. That to me would be my bet

811
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: right now that Chicago at least wins two of the

812
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: You know, I think I like them a lot more,

813
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: assuming these injuries are bad. Against green Bay, they just

814
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: lost two of their best players, I mean their best

815
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: player in Micah Parsons and Christian Watson, who completely changed

816
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: their offense because the balance of his speed with Josh Jacobs,

817
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: Chicago the mental four to two. Today, you're playing a

818
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: Browns team, which is a complete joke. I wouldn't even

819
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: have held it against them if I looked up and

820
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: it was ten ten in the third quarter and they won,

821
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: like twenty to ten. It's the NFL. You know, you

822
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: kind of sleep walk after that game. I give Green

823
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 2: Bay and Chicago a lot of credit. Both those teams

824
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: off that game last week, came today flying to start

825
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: the game, and obviously Chicago was playing an opponent they

826
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: had no chance to get back defense. The other thing

827
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 2: is a couple of those passes, you know, the one

828
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: was not Schodor's fault. He did also made some bad picks,

829
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 2: so he and their defense creates turnovers. I mean every game.

830
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Speaker 2: I think they lead the league.

831
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they I mean again, if you look, if you

832
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: check the boxes of what wins in the playoffs. It's

833
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: usually win the turnover battle. They do these days, offensive

834
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: head coach who's clever, dynamic, you know, if you're trailing late,

835
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: can run the ball, physical, comfortable in cold weather. I

836
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: mean there's again this is this is what playoff teams do.

837
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: And you know the other thing is it's Ben Johnson,

838
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: the best hire since Sean McVay in LA. I mean,

839
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: Sean McVay turned around a complete s show in one year.

840
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: Jared Goff looked like a bust and then it was

841
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, his career not only

842
00:41:53,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: blossom but exploded. I'm I'm watching the weekly improvement of

843
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. This defense isn't as good. I mean, they

844
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: give up yards for play. It's not as good as

845
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: the results. They shouldn't. I mean, the Jets have a

846
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: defensive coach. They have no takeaways.

847
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: Oh they're terrible.

848
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Speaker 1: They're terrible. You know, Aaron Glenn's a genius Defensively, they

849
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: don't take the ball away. The Bears have buyers, obviously

850
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, but their pass rush is hit and miss.

851
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: They take them all away from everybody.

852
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

853
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: I think Ben Johnson is on a short list in

854
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: the last five to ten years of best hires.

855
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, when you factor in the hype, you know,

856
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: McVeigh did. A lot of people thought it was crazy

857
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: to hire a guy at thirty one years old. I did.

858
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: He's my same age. I'm like, this is he's going

859
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: to be an NFL coach, you know. So to me,

860
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: he didn't come in hyped up. Shanahan had a lot

861
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: of hype, but their team was bad for a couple

862
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: of years. You don't usually get the combination of all

863
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: the hype the coordinator and then come in and they

864
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: immediately again Colin, they win this weekend, which who knows

865
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: what the Lion is gonna be as we find out

866
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: more about some of these injuries, it would not I'm

867
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: probably gonna pick them to win. They're gonna win the division.

868
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: So you came into the year with a division with

869
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: the Lions, who have been one of the best teams

870
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 2: in the league last couple of years. Kevin O'Connell, who's

871
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: viewed as one of the best coaches in the league.

872
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: Green Bay trades for persons right before the season, and

873
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: the Bears win the division. Especially, it was kind of

874
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: weird to start the season, right, it was like, oh,

875
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: something's a little off. I mean, what do they I

876
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: guess they lost last week, but they had won nine

877
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: in a row, so what have they won ten out

878
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: of the last eleven. They just they are they feel

879
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: more complete the way they play. Like then I would

880
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: say the Patriots like both these two teams. Right, great hires,

881
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: the good coaching staffs elevate these two teams. I don't

882
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: want to say the Patriots are smoking Bears, because I

883
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: think they're good, but you watch the Bears play, it's

884
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: like this really translates the way they play come playoff time.

885
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: And that game against Green Bay last week in Lambeau,

886
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: I think it's like one of the best losses of

887
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: the season for any team. So and to parlay this

888
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,520
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889
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: are pretty dialed in, no matter, but they're looking at

890
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: the Browns like this is what we're playing these guys

891
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: and to come in and just do what they did

892
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: to them, that was I think they'll be green Bay

893
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: and win the division. I never would have imagined saying that.

894
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: I mean a week ago and now it feels it

895
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,800
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896
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,960
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897
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,920
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898
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Speaker 2: How do you keep your head up and keep fighting?

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams has a hamstring injury. He's battled that for

936
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939
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Speaker 2: The Lions the game this week they play Seattle Thursday.

941
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this about the Lions. God, I feel

942
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: like they can't get the defense right, John, It's been

943
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: like six years all I mean, no, they lost Brian

944
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: Branch so the back end's not good. But I'm sitting

945
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: there watching Puka today. He is. He is one of

946
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,360
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947
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,320
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948
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: Rock Purty in the seventh rounds pretty damn good. I

949
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: mean the Rams are Here's what you worry about if

950
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: you're the Rams. Amoran Saint Brown had nine catches in

951
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: the first half. Like, if you have an elite receiver,

952
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,479
Speaker 1: the Rams can't stop you. And that's their real issue

953
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: because their pass rush. They have good personnel up front,

954
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: but their pass rush isn't as dominating. I think it's

955
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: not quite as dominating as it should be for the personnel. Again,

956
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: it's a really young team. But amor On Saint Brown.

957
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: The Lions had two hundred and seventy five yards in

958
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: the first half, amor On Saint Brown had one hundred

959
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: and twenty six yards. That's what worries, man. I mean,

960
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: the good news is and remember the Rams play in

961
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: a comfortable environment. So if they have home field, JSN,

962
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: what's he going to do against the in the playoffs?

963
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I mean, looking at it, the Rams

964
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: secondary isn't very good now. Pooka like he's like George

965
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: Kittle in number twelve. He's breaking tackles, catching balls and

966
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: contested areas. But you look at Saint Brown and Jamison

967
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 2: Williams to day, they had twenty catches, two hundred yards

968
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns. Now that's a pretty good one to

969
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: two combination. Right. How many teams that you're going to

970
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: play in the playoffs? You know the Eagles they had

971
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: they played the Raiders to day. I mean they got

972
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: two good receivers. The Lions will not be there now

973
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: that Watson's out. The Packers, that's not really the way

974
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: the Bears play like they're not gonna have throw for

975
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty yards, so they might get lucky,

976
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: but their secondary is an issue. And when yeah, when

977
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: DeVante's on the field, I mean their offense is dominant,

978
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 2: right because they can run the ball. They have two

979
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: elite wide receivers. But you remove the one Stafford pass

980
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: where Aydon Hutchinson basically took it to the house and

981
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 2: then they score, right, you remove that. I mean the Rams,

982
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean once they got going on the second half,

983
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: the Lions defense is even worse. I mean they're terrible.

984
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: The Rams offense. Blake Corum popped about three weeks ago,

985
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: so now you have Kyron Williams, Blake Corem. They've got

986
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: three tight ends. I like, by the way, Terrence Ferguson's

987
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: now starting to get open. The young kid, Colby Parkinson

988
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: came from Seattle, and Pete Carroll he's been productive, Davonte

989
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: will come back off the Hammy Puka Nakua. They have

990
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: the best guard tandem arguably in the league. Stafford McVeigh.

991
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, if they get on a

992
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: fast track, and they've proven they can go play in Philadelphia,

993
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: but on a fast track, they're going to score in

994
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: the thirties. I just think they are if you give

995
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: them ten eleven. They don't have a weakness offensively. They're

996
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: tackle Havevenstein at right tackle. He'll be done after the year.

997
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: They're a little weak there. But when I watched the

998
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Rams offense, from intellect to diversity to speed, they can

999
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: literally do anything. They'll play four, they'll play three tight ends,

1000
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: all can catch, all can move well.

1001
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: If they win this week, they'll have swept Seattle and

1002
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: they played the Cardinals. At the end of the season,

1003
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: they'll go five and one the division. They finished with

1004
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: the Falcons and the Cardinals, so they usually could, you know,

1005
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: win out. The one thing going against them is they

1006
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: don't really have a home field advantage from a crowd standpoint. Now.

1007
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: They are built to play inside. I do think when

1008
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: it comes to just to the Rams, I mean, one

1009
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: thing that they held that they hung their hat on

1010
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: last year down the stretch was the defensive line, and

1011
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: like you said, it's just not quite ben as good,

1012
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: and you need that area to dominate in the playoffs,

1013
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: because I don't think you can just they're like a

1014
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 2: better version right now of the Lions, and that doesn't

1015
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: translate always in the NFL, the college. Why is Indiana

1016
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: really good? It's not just Fernandum. Their defense is dominant

1017
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: right in college. Yeah, to win in Division one football

1018
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: and win in the NFL, you don't need Denver Houston.

1019
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: But I don't think what the Rams have going they

1020
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: can win the Super Bowl the way they're playing defense

1021
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: right now. I don't think that because they can't cover people.

1022
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's and that's a problem because even if

1023
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: the games aren't as high scoring, you're going to be

1024
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: in a tie game fourth quarter, it's third and seven.

1025
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: Do you have faith that the Rams are getting off

1026
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: the field. You don't.

1027
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: And it's funny because they have young They have Jared

1028
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: versh they have Kobe Turner. Is it Punifford.

1029
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a run stuffer, but I mean he's a

1030
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: run stuffer.

1031
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: They like him. I mean, they've got they've got personnel

1032
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: up front. But again it's a it's a young Landman's

1033
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: not young. Everybody else is like in their second or

1034
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: third year. It's like a really young group. So my

1035
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: takeaway is last year that defense got really really good

1036
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: by about week thirteen, fourteen fifteen. They're young, they don't

1037
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: get penalized They're a little bit like the Bears, Like

1038
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: they win the turnover battle, they don't get panelized really

1039
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: good after half. You know, I just watched them today

1040
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: and I've just thought, God, they're so clever. They like

1041
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: at some point Ben Johnson and Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan,

1042
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: they're just smarter than other coaches when you watch their

1043
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: offense like today, Let's segue to this. Niners thirty seven,

1044
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee twenty four. Rock Purty had an excellent day. Jennings Kittle,

1045
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: McCaffrey Pierce, Like, I think their old line's okay, but

1046
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: I looked at the rating a few weeks ago and

1047
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 1: it was like much higher rated than I would have thought.

1048
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: And outside of Trent Williams do I love their offensive line.

1049
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: I just when I'm watching some of these offensive coaches

1050
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: john it doesn't feel like a fair fight. I mean,

1051
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: Sean Payton today, some of their situational play calling in Denver,

1052
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean four touchdowns four different receivers. They don't have

1053
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: great receivers. I've always been a Courtland Sutton fan. I mean,

1054
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: you take it away on the Niners, but I was

1055
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of blown away. I thought Brock Purty today. It

1056
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: was the first time I watched him this year. John,

1057
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: even the Arizona went on the road. I thought he

1058
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: looked like he was one hundred percent healthy with this movement.

1059
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: Well, their offensive personnel is really good now. Pierce all

1060
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: got injured toward the end of the game, but I

1061
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: think Kittles looks as good as hes ever looked. He's

1062
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 2: a dominant Pierce McCaffrey isn't quite as explosive as maybe

1063
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: his heyday a couple of years ago, but he is

1064
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: just looks like a nineteen eighty eight, you know, just

1065
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: bell cow running back. He just hand them the ball,

1066
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: Purty running around. They are going to be a team

1067
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: no one's gonna want to play in a one game

1068
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: obviously a playoff situation right now. I think if they

1069
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: are a wild card team, if Seattle loses this weekend

1070
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: and the Niners beat the Colts, the Niners would be

1071
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: the five seed. And I don't know about you, but

1072
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: I like the Niners against Tampa or Carolina in that

1073
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: four or five. And then they're just a team that

1074
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: they're defense. They are playing with a lot of me

1075
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: and us out there, you know, Fred Warner, Nick Bosa,

1076
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: mikeel Williams. So when they played a you know, a

1077
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: stat a good offense, like they play the Bears in

1078
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, that's gonna be really hard on

1079
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: their defense. Now can they get into a situation The

1080
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: one thing Kyle can do is he can just ugly

1081
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: up the game, run the ball, control the clock like that.

1082
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: That's where the top coaches. That's what Ben Johnson is

1083
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: doing this year, like we it's on our terms, Like

1084
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 2: that's how they've won so many playoff games over the years.

1085
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: Like they dictate the terms and they ugly up the game.

1086
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: But I listen, this thing is that they're not dead yet.

1087
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: I mean, if the Rams lose this week in Seattle,

1088
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: the Niners still got the Colts, the Bears, and then

1089
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: they play Seattle at the end of the year, who

1090
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: they've already beat so and they get them at home.

1091
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: It's this is if the Niners end up twelve and

1092
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: five with all these injuries and just win a playoff game.

1093
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: I know he's made a Super Bowl a couple of times,

1094
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: but google some of the names they're rolling out on defense.

1095
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's pretty remarkable because you see these teams,

1096
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: you know, just completely fall apart when they have injuries.

1097
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't know off the top of my head. I

1098
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: think mac Jones won like four or five games this year,

1099
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: not like one, not like Tanner McKee or not Tanner McKee,

1100
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: but Davis Mills and Houston he went to and that

1101
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: saved their season. But that's two wins, you know. Mac

1102
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: Jones went like four or five and started for like eight.

1103
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: That's usually a team. Look at the Bengals, burrols out.

1104
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: The whole thing just fell apart during the middle of

1105
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: the season, and the forty nine ers is kind of

1106
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: kept on ripping. And that's the power of Kyle and

1107
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: he's him and getting solid back who I think they

1108
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: could lose immediately. I mean I think, yeah, you know,

1109
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: I read a story that you know, the Raiders desperately

1110
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: try to hire him as the defensive coordinator this year,

1111
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: and I would imagine pete'stune like I've been, The Raiders

1112
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: would be all over, some of the Cardinals will be

1113
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: all I mean, he's just he's gonna I'd be a

1114
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 2: little stunned if Saul was not a one and done

1115
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: and he's back. Once you start looking at the landscape,

1116
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: all these jobs coming open. The other thing is like

1117
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: Sala is the type guy. Let's say the Steelers are

1118
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: one and you know they trade tominto the Giants. Doesn't

1119
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: he just feel like he'd fit right in Pittsburgh? You know,

1120
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 2: I think Sala the Titans. He's gonna interview with every

1121
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: job in the league. You look at the Jets, the

1122
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: more and more they play each week, it's like, well,

1123
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: that probably wasn't his fault, you know. So I think

1124
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: the moment you leave the Jets, everyone's like, yeah, maybe

1125
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: Aaron and n Saala weren't as bad. Maybe it's the Jets.

1126
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: So yet, what Saala is doing this year, I've been

1127
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: saying I didn't think he'd get a job, But you

1128
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: started looking at the landscape, like, who's he really interviewing against?

1129
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Yeah, I think the Raiders blow it up.

1130
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: It's a mess of a franchise. I will tell you

1131
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: when I when I look around, and I'll do it

1132
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: right now. I'll pop up, pop up your NFL standings

1133
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: right now as we look at it. I mean I

1134
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: look at every team. I mean it's funny. I think

1135
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers can win a playoff game. I think Denver

1136
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: can win several. I think the Jaguars and I think

1137
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: that I'll say this again, if I had to guess

1138
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: right now, I'd probably go Denver and the Houston Texans

1139
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship. That's I think Houston's defense. You

1140
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: know what Stroud today, and I know people are hitt

1141
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: and miss on him. God he makes when he gets protection. Jesus,

1142
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: is he a throw a pretty.

1143
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 2: He's played, He's played well. The last month he's he's

1144
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: been really good. Their defense has been elite. I think

1145
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: the Chargers and the Niners are kind of similar operations.

1146
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: There's a lot of coaching, a lot of mental toughness,

1147
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: a lot of championship mindset.

1148
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: Maybe can win a playoff game one, it's.

1149
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: Gonna be hard for them to win three. If they

1150
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: were both healthy, they could win the both conferences.

1151
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Right I think I would take the Rams. Jesus John

1152
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: Shann looked a little off today, I mean, didn't scare me.

1153
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I would say that's the Niners play Seattle.

1154
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a difference right now, So.

1155
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: I think Rams got it hit. I mean, Bears.

1156
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy as to say I'll say this now the Raiders.

1157
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: It's The Eagles had been one of the worst looking

1158
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: teams for a month and they played the Raiders. Their

1159
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: schedule does open up now to get some Commanders, they

1160
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: get some Raiders, they could get a little mojo back

1161
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: coming into the playoffs. They still have I mean, it's

1162
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: a lot of aj Brown, DeVante Smith, they got Vic Fangio,

1163
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: an excellent defense. They do have a lot of talent,

1164
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: and they have a lot of guys that have won

1165
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: a lot of games. You assume Jalen Carter, you know,

1166
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: comes back sometime this season. They are not a team that,

1167
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: like I don't look at the Eagles like I do

1168
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: Tampa Carolina like they are real playoff opponents. They're gonna

1169
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: win the division meeting. They're gonna be playing in Philly.

1170
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: You know that three to six matchup probably be like Philly,

1171
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: Seattle or San Francisco, and that will be Uh, that's

1172
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: got like Saturday Night NBC written all over. It doesn't

1173
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: a wildcar weekend.

1174
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: Oh, it'll be just absolutely incredible, all right. Our hard

1175
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: Rock Bet Monday Night Football picks Miami Dolphins getting three

1176
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: in the cold weather at Pittsburgh. There's been a real

1177
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: I think I would take Miami plus the points. I

1178
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: think they've played with a ton of urgency. I saw

1179
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: some video of them playing around. They landed in Pittsburgh snowstorm,

1180
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: they went out and played on the field and practiced.

1181
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: I have been really impressed with Mike McDaniel's game plans.

1182
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: Two is still not playing great football, but there's an

1183
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: element of physicality to their play over the last month

1184
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: that's been noticeable, at least watching on television. Pittsburgh's all

1185
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: over the map. I always like Tomlin as an underdog

1186
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: more than a favorite. I think it's really really close.

1187
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: I'd probably take the three points in Miami. What say you?

1188
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of dry needling before TJ? Watt?

1189
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: Because I can't imagine doing that, and that sounded like

1190
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: it did not feel good. But in all seriousness, glad

1191
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: he's okay. But that's a devastating loss for them, so

1192
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: he's not playing in this game. Listen, Miami, we all

1193
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: wrote them off in that franchise and blow that thing up.

1194
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: This guy all of a sudden, you could look up

1195
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: Monday ninety's seven in Evan. That is a remarkable accomplishment.

1196
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you. They've been running the ball. They've actually

1197
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: been playing decent defense.

1198
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: They're physical.

1199
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what's what's the difference between them right

1200
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: now in Pittsburgh. So I'm with you, I'm gonna listen,

1201
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: they haven't been relying on Tua. He's been throwing for

1202
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty yards a game and they've been winning.

1203
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: So I'm with you, I'm gonna I'm gonna ride with

1204
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: the fighting Mike McDaniels.

1205
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff chopped it up for an hour former NFL scout.

1206
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: As always, John, great stuff, See you Colin. The volume