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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into the best podcast available presented

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Speaker 1: and personalized solutions. On Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble. We

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Speaker 1: are eight weeks away from the NFL Draft, and in

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Speaker 1: the NFL will be underway. What it looks like, no

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Speaker 1: idea what the salary cap will ultimately be zero clue Gribbs.

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Speaker 1: A lot to be determined here, not just in the

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Speaker 1: and the Browns are really well positioned compared to most teams.

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Speaker 1: today from the Draft Network analyst, former QB, former coach,

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Speaker 1: former recruiting coordinator Jordan Reid, who has been on the

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Speaker 1: and then Uh, Gribble's gone through a number of mock

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Speaker 1: Normally we'd be in Indianapolis, whether it was last week

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Speaker 1: And so that makes these kind of media sessions, which

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Speaker 1: UH current analyst, former quarterback, former coach, former recruiting coordinator,

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Speaker 1: the Draft Network. Also on his podcast, Jordan Read with

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Speaker 1: a few great minutes with us talking about offense, talking

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Speaker 1: happy to be joined right now by one of our favorites.

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Speaker 1: first two downs, but also on third down that can

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Speaker 1: match up with tight ends and then they shift the

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Speaker 1: slide receivers as well. So if there were two guys

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Speaker 1: that I think could book the trend, I definitely think

435
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Speaker 1: both of them will be worthy. If both of those

436
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Speaker 1: guys are gone at Picky six, maybe even into the

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Speaker 1: second round. There are there some names of those at

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Speaker 1: that linebacker position. You know, last year there weren't a

439
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Speaker 1: lot of linebackers, you know, the linebacker class. If you

440
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Speaker 1: didn't get one of the top three or four, there

441
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Speaker 1: was a pretty significant drop off at least in the

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Speaker 1: ratings of those guys. Is that a similar situation to

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Speaker 1: share a linebacker? So this linebacker class is kinda I

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Speaker 1: would call it unique. I think it's very similar to

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Speaker 1: edge rusher and that there's not that top guy at

446
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Speaker 1: the top. There's not a headline in name. There's not

447
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Speaker 1: a Miles Garrett at the top of edge rusher, and

448
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Speaker 1: then there's not a one that linebacker either, even though

449
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Speaker 1: I think Michael Parks Parson is a really good player,

450
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Speaker 1: but there's some people that don't have him as that

451
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Speaker 1: top guy. Is not like a Miles Garrett. Coming out,

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Speaker 1: we knew that he undoubtedly was going to be the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick. But if we're talking about some

454
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Speaker 1: guys that they could get in the second or third round,

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Speaker 1: Jabrille Cox from l s U, who was the North

456
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Speaker 1: Dakota State transfer, I think he's a player that they

457
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Speaker 1: will have a lot of interest in. And the thing

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Speaker 1: about Jabrill is that a lot of times you see

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Speaker 1: players that go from FCS to that big time Division

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Speaker 1: One level, which is what he did. You rarely ever

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Speaker 1: see a player go from FCS to the SEC and

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Speaker 1: still have He didn't. The surroundings didn't look forwign to him,

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. He the speed of the game

464
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Speaker 1: wasn't too fast for him, and that just goes to

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Speaker 1: show that he has unique versatility, but also he has

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Speaker 1: unique athleticism as well. And then another one that I

467
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people are kind of sleeping on

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Speaker 1: it right now is Baron Browning from Ohio State. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a player that could go a little bit

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Speaker 1: higher than what some people are expecting right now. And

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Speaker 1: he played really well down at the Senior Bowl. That's

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Speaker 1: something that I really wanted to see from him. Just

473
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Speaker 1: because Ohio State had a ton of linebackers. I think

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Speaker 1: they had three or four that probably have a chance

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Speaker 1: at getting drafted right now. But I think he was

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Speaker 1: the best of the bunch. And you talked about athleticism

477
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Speaker 1: for days. Just going and watch him against the Game

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Speaker 1: and the Senior Bowl, I think he was fantastic. Is

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Speaker 1: there an addresser you like it that part of the

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Speaker 1: draft that you think can make an impact and potentially

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Speaker 1: help the brown still avoid that if if Olidia Vernon's

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Speaker 1: not back here next year. Yeah, And even though there's

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Speaker 1: not a consensus guy at the top, it's just a

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Speaker 1: matter of what type of flavor that you want. A

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Speaker 1: Zizo Glari from Georgia is one that I like a lot.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be available at

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Speaker 1: twenty six. There's kind of mixed reviews out there right

488
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Speaker 1: now about him. It wouldn't surprise me if he goes

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Speaker 1: top twenty. It wouldn't surprise me if he's there at

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Speaker 1: twenty either, just because they're so many mixed reviews about him.

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Speaker 1: And then another one is Jalen Phillips from from u C.

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Speaker 1: L A who transferred to Miami. Here's another one that's

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Speaker 1: starting to get a lot of steam here lately, even

494
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Speaker 1: though he has some off the field stuff from when

495
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Speaker 1: he retired at u c l A for a brief stint,

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Speaker 1: and then he also had some it flag in his

497
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Speaker 1: background that he has to answer as well. There's plenty

498
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: of other guys to Jason Noway from Penn State, Gregory

499
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Speaker 1: Russo from Miami. I go on and on about some

500
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Speaker 1: of these guys. Just because there's no proven top guy

501
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: at the top, each one is going to have their flaws.

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Speaker 1: Just like I said, it's just a matter of which

503
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Speaker 1: flavor and type that you want on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the football. Um, there is a concern about needing

505
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Speaker 1: to build up some depth on that offensive line and

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Speaker 1: also maybe looking at a at a wide receiver, someone

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Speaker 1: who can get down the field, you know, a burner

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Speaker 1: that can really get behind the defense, stretch him out

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Speaker 1: a little bit and allow everything to open up underneath

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. What do you see when you

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Speaker 1: look at those two positions this year in the draft

512
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: so similar to last year. I think wide receiver is

513
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Speaker 1: really deep. I think it's even deeper than what we

514
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Speaker 1: saw on Day two and Day three a year ago.

515
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Speaker 1: And you saw these guys come in and contribute immediately

516
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Speaker 1: on Day two. Whether it was a Denzel Mims with

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Speaker 1: the Jets or Leavisco Channaut with the Jaguars, And there's

518
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Speaker 1: plenty of others. Te Higgins from Cincinnati, so you guys

519
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: are familiar with You came in and made an immediate

520
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Speaker 1: contribution to them. So when you're talking about Day two

521
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Speaker 1: guys that I think could come in and help the

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Speaker 1: Browns immediately, I think Damie Brown from North Carolina is

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Speaker 1: one that could come in and help right away. I

524
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Speaker 1: like him a lot. He does have some catch concerns

525
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: that does worry me a little bit, but I think

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Speaker 1: he's one that could improve on that. It's not a

527
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Speaker 1: situation where he's just blatantly dropping the ball, is more

528
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Speaker 1: of a looking the ball in before you move up

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Speaker 1: the field type of situation. And Terrorice Marshall from l

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Speaker 1: s U as another one that I think would be

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Speaker 1: a really good fit on the Browns as well. And

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of us. Like I said, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of talent. On Day two. I really just looking for

534
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Speaker 1: a burner, those down the field type of players that

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Speaker 1: really could have tread the Browns on Day two and

536
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Speaker 1: Day three. I'll go a little with a little bit

537
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Speaker 1: of a big picture of questionnaire. Now that's just what

538
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Speaker 1: what did you take away from Andrew Berry's first draft

539
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Speaker 1: with the Browns and how does that make you think

540
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Speaker 1: the the approach could be for this upcoming year? What? What?

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Speaker 1: I know, it's just one draft? What did what did

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Speaker 1: you see from that? Now that comply this year? I

543
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: honestly think it was a home run. You rarely see

544
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Speaker 1: a team hit on as many picks as they did,

545
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Speaker 1: and I think he got a lot of great value

546
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Speaker 1: from the late round picks as well. You're talking about

547
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Speaker 1: Harrison Bryant who came in and even though it was

548
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Speaker 1: primarily as a blocker, the tight ends have to have

549
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Speaker 1: some type of role early on, and you guys know what,

550
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: David and Joeku, it's kind of like learning two positions

551
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: and one. That's why I think tight end we don't

552
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: rarely see or we rarely see them come in and

553
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: contribute right away just because they're learning how to be

554
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Speaker 1: a blocker, they're learning how to be a pass catcher

555
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: as well, and that can be really difficult for players

556
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Speaker 1: early on. So I think Harrison Bryant was really good value.

557
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: Donovan People's Jones who came in and played really well

558
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: as well in spots, and then Jordan Elliott came in

559
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: and filled in really well. I think Grant Delfit is

560
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: gonna end up being a good player. We'll see how

561
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: he returns from the Achilles. But I mean, there's no

562
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Speaker 1: secret that Jendrick Wills was the best of the bunch

563
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: with how well he played at his left tacole spot.

564
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Speaker 1: So you're starting to see the value stack up. And

565
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: for Barry to go out have never been a GM

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Speaker 1: in his entire career before and draft as well as

567
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Speaker 1: he did. I mean, the skies that for him, and

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00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: I know you guys are really intrigued. Even though it's

569
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Speaker 1: not as early of a pick as you guys are

570
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: used to in the building, I still think they have

571
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Speaker 1: a chance to have a really good draft, considering how

572
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: well he drafted a year ago and then just last one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you get a sense that teams are

574
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Speaker 1: looking would maybe potentially move on from some picks and

575
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Speaker 1: try to stockpile more picks for next year just because

576
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Speaker 1: it might be a more normal college football season, or

577
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: do do you think that it'll just be business as

578
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: usually even with this weird season. I think it's kind

579
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: of toothfold, honestly, Andrew, just because I think some teams

580
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: are kind of just want to hit doubles. You know

581
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Speaker 1: what I mean by that is players that you know

582
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: are gonna be safe bits in the league. And I

583
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: know there's no guys that are gonna be safe bets.

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Speaker 1: But as far as the Browns are really analytically based,

585
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: so they're gonna say guys that are that fear really

586
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: will in the system that check all the boxes and

587
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: whatever the algorithms are, and they're not gonna take a

588
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: bunch of chances on maybe guys that had injury red

589
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: flags that don't pass the character backgrounds or things of

590
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: that nature. So I think they're gonna stay very close

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00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: to the vest as far as players that they can

592
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: just hit doubles with, as far as risking maybe once

593
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: they could potentially hit home runs with it. That makes sense,

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00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: all right. Jordan's before we let you go, because we

595
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: ask everybody every week that we have on the podcast,

596
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Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks go on the top fIF team, because ultimately,

597
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: the more quarterbacks that go push us that talent pool

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00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: back to us a little bit at twenty six. So

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Speaker 1: we're rooting for as many quarterbacks as possible to go

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Speaker 1: in that top fifteen. How many quarterbacks do you think?

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Speaker 1: And I know you just uh in your podcast that

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00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: just came out, the Read Option podcast. I know you

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00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: talk extensively about quarterbacks. You break down every guy and

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Speaker 1: it's a great podcast leading up to the Draft. I

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Speaker 1: would recommend everybody get on board with that. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him by the way at Jordan Underscore read.

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Speaker 1: How many qbs go on the top fifteen. Honestly think

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Speaker 1: five go on the top fifteen, as crazy as that

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Speaker 1: is to say, I think the Patriots are gonna take

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Speaker 1: one whoever's left of the five fifteen if they don't

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Speaker 1: end up trading up, and I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones. If I had to predict to date, I

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Speaker 1: think five quarterbacks going to top fIF team. We're a

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Speaker 1: big fan of that. The more the merrier because we

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00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: don't actually have to deal with that, and it's been

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Speaker 1: a long time since that's been the case. Absolutely, Jordan Read,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time, continued success to you and everybody over

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Speaker 1: at the Draft Network, and uh, we encourage everybody make

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Speaker 1: sure you check it out. It's a great publication, great

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00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: great videos, great breakdowns. The podcast here the Read Option

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Speaker 1: Podcast with Jordan Read. Jordan, appreciate the time, continued success

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll be talking with you again down

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Speaker 1: the road. Absolutely, thank you, guys. I look forward to

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Speaker 1: this every year thanks to Jordan Read from the Draft Network.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate his time and insight, and again GRIBs, it's it's

626
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: fascinating because we're a picky six and there's so many

627
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: things that can happen between pick one and pick twenty

628
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Speaker 1: six and where we might go. We're starting to see

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Speaker 1: some names floating in and we'll get to those in

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Speaker 1: just a minute. But some great insight from from Jordan

631
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: Reed on really this draft class as it starts to

632
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: come together and we start to see these pro days

633
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: and get a little more of a background on some

634
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Speaker 1: of these guys going into draft day. Anytime we talk

635
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Speaker 1: to these guys and then I look at all the uncertainties,

636
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Speaker 1: I look at all the teams I had the Browns,

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Speaker 1: I have similar needs and could easily take some of

638
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: these guys that were starting to fall in love with.

639
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just I'm starting to get the itch for

640
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: the for the move up, Like do you need to

641
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: move up? And I can see I can see how

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00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: some teams fall into the trap of that in the

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Speaker 1: end of the first round. I mean, you get it

644
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: gets to be eleven o'clock on the first round the

645
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Speaker 1: draft to get a board, you know, you want to

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Speaker 1: get it over with. I mean that it up a

647
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Speaker 1: long night. I mean, it's so I'm just wondering, this

648
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: is too much uncertainty. I'm used to the certainty that

649
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: that you have at the top of the draft. Even

650
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: even last year, number ten, I felt a lot more

651
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: certain about You're going to get a tackle at some point.

652
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Now I don't. I don't know. I mean, I just

653
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident it's gonna be on defense. But outside

654
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: of that, I don't know if my insight is going

655
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: to change much more by April. I don't think I'm

656
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: gonna know any more then than I do now. I

657
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting, and we teased it earlier. Mel

658
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: hyper Jr. Put out his mock last week. It was

659
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. We talked about it a little bit,

660
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: some trades and Mel never puts trades in things. Uh.

661
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: He had a teleconference with the media and it's it's

662
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: pretty insane to listen to it because It's literally him

663
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: ninety minutes just answering question after question from like from

664
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Speaker 1: like Dubuke to Fort Lauderdale to you name the city.

665
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: Someone's calling with a question, and he just rattles things

666
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: off like it's nobody's business. And there were a couple

667
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: of Browns questions, include our including our Anthony Possel, who

668
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: had a question for him about what to do it

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Speaker 1: pick number twenty six And obviously in his mock he

670
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: had the Browns taking a linebacker. But the follow up

671
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: question came a little bit later on defensive end, wide receiver.

672
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: Could you see one of those positions? Mel saying, if

673
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: you're looking for a burner, if you're looking for a

674
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: speed ster that gets but you know what they can

675
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: get behind the defense, maybe you're better off trading into

676
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: the second round and getting rid of that pick. And

677
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: he also said the defensive ends at that point in

678
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: the draft, there could already be some questions there. There

679
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions about some of those guys.

680
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: What do you make of that? I mean, we we've

681
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: seen the linebacker mock to this team a ton and

682
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen, not gonna happen.

683
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 1: We're really who knows what direction. But with questions at

684
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: defensive end or Mel's advice to trade out of the

685
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: first round to go get a wide receiver, what do

686
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: you make of these? Yeah, I mean it just kind

687
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: of makes sense when you think about a defensive end

688
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: is one of the most valued positions in the NFL.

689
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: We saw what Myles Garrett is making, We saw the

690
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: impact that he's able to have. I mean, it's it's

691
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: it's right up there, it's it goes quarterback, then maybe

692
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: tackle or pass rusher. I mean that that's that's that's

693
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: how important that position is on the field. So if

694
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: you're looking for a plug and play pass rusher, number

695
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: twenty six is not going to be the spot to

696
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, you're you're there's gonna be a

697
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: reason why a pass rusher falls to number twenty six.

698
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be either a mix of maybe lack

699
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: of consistent motor or inconsistency maybe, or it's the wrong

700
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: size for the position that in terms of the scheme,

701
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: or it's someone like a Quidty Pay out of Michigan

702
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: who maybe his best football is a few years from now.

703
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the that's the reason why when

704
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: you're getting into pass rusher at number twenty six, just

705
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: like you would be if with a quarterback, and just

706
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: like you would be with an offensive tackle. I mean,

707
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: if if you're getting someone down there at that spot,

708
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to work with them a little

709
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: bit before they're ready to go Week one. I mean,

710
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: I think you you might strike gold and get get

711
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: and and get a great player that has fallen maybe

712
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: too far than they should. But odds are, teams do

713
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: their homework, and so if you're drafting a pass rusher

714
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: at number twenty six, I think the odds of them

715
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: being able to start right away are different than if

716
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: you're drafting, say a linebacker at number twenty six or

717
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: a running back at six. I just think there's with

718
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: each position you have to go higher and iron in

719
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: the draft to get someone that is truly a plug

720
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: and play day one guy. I think there is a

721
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: misconception that if you get drafted in the first round,

722
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: you need to be an impact player right away. And

723
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: I think top ten, absolutely, no question about maybe even

724
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: top fifteen, But those picks later in the first round

725
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: can be a developmental pick. I don't know what behoof's

726
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: the Browns at pick to get a guy that can

727
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: play right away or a developmental guy. It will be

728
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: fascinating as this draft unfurls to see exactly what the

729
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: Browns thought processes as as it pertains to that. Yeah,

730
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: and you go back to last year, I mean, and

731
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: really you go back to the second round last year

732
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: where this kind of logic can play out. I mean,

733
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: you got a guy in Grant Delpitt who was in

734
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: all and what we think was a plug and play

735
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: guy at safety, but that's safety. I mean, you don't

736
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: see a lot of safeties go in the first round

737
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: of the draft, and and so, but with him, you

738
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: got someone who maybe had first round value that ended

739
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: up falling down that way. So maybe your goal is

740
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 1: maybe you're getting someone with top of half of first

741
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: round potential at six and maybe having to wait a

742
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: little bit, or you get someone similar to maybe like

743
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: the Ravens last year, getting like a Patrick Queen down

744
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: at that part of the draft. I mean, he was

745
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: plug and play and he had his ups and downs

746
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: last year, but we're assuming he's just gonna be locked

747
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: into that spot on the Ravens defense for the years,

748
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: so you have the opportunity to maybe get someone like that,

749
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: like a Zaven Collins. But it's all about what you

750
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: value position wise, and is it better to have a

751
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: linebacker that you know you can can start for you

752
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: for the next four years or a pass rusher that

753
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: maybe you think can develop into something even more special

754
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: down the road. And so that that's that that's all

755
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: the the analysis that the front office has to do

756
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: and why they're uh in charge of what they're doing.

757
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: And I think that what they do in free agency,

758
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: I think we'll have to dictate a little bit of that.

759
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: I know, when we talk about draft, you you can

760
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: say you never draft for need. I think that changes

761
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: just a little bit when you're in the position the

762
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: Browns are, when you're in the position of making trying

763
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: to get back to the playoffs. I just think it's

764
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: a little different than when you're say, like what the

765
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: Jaguars are going into this draft right now or the Jets.

766
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, those teams can't draft for need because they

767
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: got a lot of needs. The Browns they've got some needs,

768
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: but they've they've got where the ability to target some

769
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: of those needs. Maybe a little bit better than some

770
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: other teams. Well, and the clock is ticking. A lot

771
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: of contracts are up, a lot of rookie contracts are up,

772
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be time to to get some of

773
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: those guys paid. And when now, when they're on those

774
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: rookie contracts, I think that also takes on and added importance.

775
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Speaker 1: All right, on your breakdowns, your weekly mock draft review

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns dot com. You can check that out, Uh,

777
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778
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: The one name that keeps popping up, Actually there are

779
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Speaker 1: two names to the pop up, Quitty Pay, Quity k

780
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Speaker 1: w I t y uh and tray Von Morig is

781
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: the H silent. I think it's all right, Uh safety

782
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: out of t see you. Uh, two names that definitely

783
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: keep popping up. What do you know about Quitty Pay?

784
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: We'll start with him first. Well, he's again someone with

785
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: a lot of upside and I think that as as

786
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: Chris Burke mentions in his draft, there's there's legitimate top

787
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: ten buzz around this guy, and so twenty six and

788
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: obviously that'd be great to get someone that is potentially

789
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: getting top ten buzz. I think Todd McShay had him

790
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: his high had him at eleventh in his draft. So

791
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: this is there's a lot of mixed opinions on him,

792
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: I think. And I just think it's because he's a

793
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 1: developmental player because he went to Michigan, had had played

794
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: running back in high school, so he's only two eight

795
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: pounds in high school. UH, And it's just a freakish athlete.

796
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: And I think the UH. He was included in Bruce

797
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: Feldman's UH College Football Freaks list for UH and his

798
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: freakiest attribute is three cone speed drill, which, as he

799
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: recorded UH for for Scouts the year before the Combine,

800
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: his time of six point three seven seconds would have

801
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: topped anyone at the actual NFL Combine. So he's he's

802
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: a very just a tremendously gifted player. But again would

803
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: fall into the discussion on I don't know if he's

804
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: plug and playing. I don't know if he's someone that

805
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: you say, say, Olivia Vernon is not back, we'll put

806
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: Quity pay there. I don't know if that's the I

807
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the the answer, because you're getting

808
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: him late in the first round and you might need

809
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: to work with him for a little bit, but clearly

810
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: falls into the tremendous upside while also helping the Browns

811
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: fill an area where they need some more depth. I

812
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: think that's pretty clear. I don't know if you're going

813
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: to get a starter and free agency or the draft

814
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: at that position, but you certainly need some more body

815
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: to that position. Treyvon Morig Safety TCU. I'm I'm intrigued

816
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: because it's not just one draft that has us taking

817
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: a safety. It's numerous mock drafts that have us potentially

818
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: taking a safety. I'm intrigued. Why safety do you think

819
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: in in the first round? It pick well, listen it

820
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: it would be if you're getting more and you're doing

821
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: it at twenty six odds are you're probably taking the

822
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: first safety off the board. I mean, he's he's he

823
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: seems to be the consensus agreement to be one of

824
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: the best safeties in this draft. And honestly, when you

825
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: read his strengths and weaknesses, it sounds like another Grant

826
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: Delpit and and so in terms of what he can do,

827
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: the versatility, uh, just the coverage skills, all that and

828
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: you know a mix of everything you want out of

829
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: that position. Uh. And and for the Browns. I mean,

830
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: you get back Grant Delpit and you're getting back Ronnie Harrison,

831
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: but Karl Joseph Andersondo, they played a lot of snaps

832
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: on this defense last year. They're both free agents, so

833
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: depending on what you do with them, you may haven't

834
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: need at that safety position. And I think more it

835
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: would fall into the category of if you're at twenty six.

836
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if if it falls into the Harrison

837
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Bryant category discussion where you're like, this player is so

838
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: good on our high on our board, we gotta take them,

839
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: even if we don't necessarily have glaring mead that we

840
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: might have at other positions. That could be the logic

841
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: behind that pick. Or if you want to get creative

842
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: on your defense and and have a lot of these

843
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: guys that can wear a lot of hats, I think Harrison,

844
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Delpitt and more it can all do be played at

845
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of different positions, and that gives Joe Woods

846
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot of options. So I think that's that that's

847
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: the maybe the calculus that goes into that kind of decision.

848
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: I think to take a safety twenty six, I mean,

849
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: now I think it would surprise me a little bit,

850
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: But it could be like I just mentioned with Harrison Bryant,

851
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: where it's like, gosh, we have this guy ranked ten

852
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: spots higher than anyone else that's left on the on

853
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: the board. You gotta go grab it. It just makes

854
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: your team better. Alright. What about Christian Barmore out of Alabama.

855
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: Pe Prisco has him going to US at pick. He's

856
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: an Alabama guy, but a defensive tackle in the first round.

857
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: You don't see a lot of defensive tackles going in

858
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: the first round, more defensive ends obviously than tackles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first round, which typically have at least one or

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Speaker 1: two going in the first half the first times. It's

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Speaker 1: a prett valuable position and it's kind of changed over

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Speaker 1: the last few years and what you see out of

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Speaker 1: players who benefited the most from there being a season,

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Speaker 1: and particularly he benefited most from Alabama's playoff run because

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Speaker 1: that's where he rose to the occasion. I think Alabama

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Speaker 1: has had a lot of players that do this and

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Speaker 1: that they show out at the final part of their career,

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Speaker 1: and that's all it takes because some guys just don't

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Speaker 1: get the opportunity. I mean, you go to Alabama's a

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman, you're probably red shurating and that's that's just

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Speaker 1: the depth they have at that position. But the track record,

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Speaker 1: you trust what Saban has developed on that defensive line.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, Alabama gets dinged a lot

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Speaker 1: because they people claim they have a lot of bus

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but because they put a lot of

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Speaker 1: players in the NFL, you're gonna have more busts when

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Speaker 1: you do that. But if you're going position by position,

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Speaker 1: I would say the smallest bust rate you've had is

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Speaker 1: but all these guys are solid players that that last

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Speaker 1: I think Barmore is someone that is maybe more He

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Speaker 1: hasn't punted a ton at the college level. He finished strong,

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Speaker 1: but it's an arrow up kind of guy who was

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Speaker 1: in who's at Alabama for three years playing two of

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Speaker 1: them after Red Chee in that first year yeah, definitely

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Speaker 1: some interesting names. Were starting to see some trends. We're

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Speaker 1: starting to see certain positions becoming the focus of all

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Speaker 1: of these mock drafts that are coming in weekend and

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Speaker 1: week out. We're eight weeks away from the draft. We

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Speaker 1: are two weeks away from NFL free agency, the NFL

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Speaker 1: machine getting revveed up. Two months ago on this day,

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Speaker 1: we qualified, by the way, for the playoffs. We beat Pittsburgh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: actually two weeks from yesterday, Yes, weeks for me yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. We were in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: two months or two months ago today. Pretty crazy and

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Speaker 1: our free agent special, our free agent preview as we

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Speaker 1: of what this team is going to need. We'll have

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