WEBVTT - #733 Packers Unscripted: Double duty

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Mike Spafford, joined as always by my partner

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<v Speaker 2>in crime, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from

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<v Speaker 2>our studios at Lambefield and Wes, we have double duty

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of on this show today because we

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<v Speaker 2>have to talk Packers Saints. We also have to talk

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<v Speaker 2>Packers Lions. Review one game, preview another. We'll start with

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<v Speaker 2>reviewing Sunday's game at Lambefield And I don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>you want to start with this, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>start right here because last week we spent a good

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<v Speaker 2>portion of our Tuesday show talking about how one bad

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<v Speaker 2>quarter of football can wipe out three pretty good quarters

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<v Speaker 2>of football. Well, now, one awfully good quarter of football

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<v Speaker 2>wiped out three very very struggling quarters of football for

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<v Speaker 2>the Green Bay Packers, and they came out of these

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<v Speaker 2>two games games at one on one because they pulled

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<v Speaker 2>off a seventeen point fourth quarter comeback against the Saints.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I can I break down the third wall a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit here? Well, just give you a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a background here. So I got tickets for two

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<v Speaker 3>separate collections of people. My good friend Matteo Rubinato and

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<v Speaker 3>his family were at the game. Also, one of our

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<v Speaker 3>former interns of Donna Olson, brought her dad to the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of them. At halftime, my texted, go on, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really sorry because like they both are super excited and

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<v Speaker 3>it was a slow start. And then afterwards, after that

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<v Speaker 3>fourth quarter I sent both the text going, now ENVM

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<v Speaker 3>turned out cool. Yeah, uh, it's funny. Mike. As many

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<v Speaker 3>years as I've covered this thing, and you obviously have

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<v Speaker 3>a couple more of these games under your belt than

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<v Speaker 3>I do, I always feel like I see something new

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<v Speaker 3>and this game, as much as there were some parallels

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<v Speaker 3>to what happened in twenty eighteen, the only other time

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<v Speaker 3>the Packers have come back from a seventeen point deficit

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<v Speaker 3>in that win over the Bears in the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the hundred six, this one just felt different because this one,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like the quarterback was out, it's not that

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<v Speaker 3>anybody was injured. While other than the people that were

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<v Speaker 3>injured at the beginning, it was just a matter of

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<v Speaker 3>the Packers just really were not executing early on, and

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<v Speaker 3>there were too many penalties they were thrown in a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of third and long situations. As good as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Love has been on third and longs. It's difficult

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<v Speaker 3>when it's third and nine plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially against the defense like that one oh.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent, they're not going to give you any

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<v Speaker 3>extra you know, leeway. But then you get to that

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<v Speaker 3>fourth quarter and that last seven minutes specifically, and everything

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<v Speaker 3>turned over. And what I learned from that. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>number of things you and I are going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about here in terms of the grittiness of the team,

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<v Speaker 3>guys stepping up and making plays. But if there was

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<v Speaker 3>ever a situation that shows you what a young quarterback's

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<v Speaker 3>medal is made out of, it was that with Jordan Love,

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<v Speaker 3>the kids stepped up routinely and made a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>plays that I don't know a lot of NFL quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 3>could make.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the big talking points after the game was

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<v Speaker 2>just how as badly as everything had gone for three

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<v Speaker 2>quarters that you know, as we've talked about with Jordan Love,

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<v Speaker 2>he was still he was still poised. He didn't let

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<v Speaker 2>anything fluster him or rattle him. He was the leader

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<v Speaker 2>of that team, or specifically of the offense in getting

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<v Speaker 2>things going, because we'll talk in a minute about how

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<v Speaker 2>the defense on balance played a pretty darn good football

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<v Speaker 2>game from start to finish. But when you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a comeback like this, and I mentioned this an insider

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<v Speaker 2>inbox other conversations I've had with people, I've seen a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of comebacks in my day, both by the Packers,

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<v Speaker 2>by the other team, whatever it may be. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I've ever seen one that felt like it

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<v Speaker 2>came completely out of the blue, that it just you

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<v Speaker 2>just had felt like there was nothing that you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to hang your hat on and say, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still a chance. There's still a chance, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even going all the way up to the first play

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<v Speaker 2>of the fourth quarter, the Packers are in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got fourth and two at the thirteen yard line.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeen to nothing at the start of the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 2>is not insurmountable. It's three scores. It's a tough hill

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<v Speaker 2>to climb, but it's not insurmountable. But then on fourth

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<v Speaker 2>and two from the thirteen yard line, they the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>can't connect. Love and Patrick Taylor are just not on

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<v Speaker 2>the same page with when the Saints, in essence, we're

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<v Speaker 2>giving them the first down, the way they were lining

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<v Speaker 2>up defensively, you don't execute that pass, you turn the

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<v Speaker 2>ball over on downs, and you know, you're just like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you even have to go on here? And

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<v Speaker 2>then suddenly, you know, the defense was holding up it's

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<v Speaker 2>and kept getting the ball back to the offense to

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<v Speaker 2>give them chance after chance after chance. And then suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>those chances turned into field goal, touchdown, touchdown, a gutsy

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<v Speaker 2>two point conversion on the middle score after the second

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown or after the first touchdown, the second score, which

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<v Speaker 2>which turned out to be a tremendous play by Jordan Love,

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<v Speaker 2>just off schedule, improvising finding samai toure when he starts

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<v Speaker 2>to scramble and buy some time, but he's got no

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<v Speaker 2>way to get to the goal line himself, and he

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<v Speaker 2>just whips a pass across across his body, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you could feel the energy in the stadium. The defense

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<v Speaker 2>was getting its job done. You know, you know, Jayden

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<v Speaker 2>Reid makes a diving catch for thirty yards just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of plays after Jordan Love scrambles twenty four yards

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<v Speaker 2>up the sideline. I mean, it was just it started

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<v Speaker 2>to compound itself, but it it just it felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it came out of the blue, and and I give credit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there have been some discussions in Matt Lafleur's

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<v Speaker 2>press conferences like is this is a young team? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they just too young to know any better? That you're

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to be able to do that. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to just flip a switch and go win a

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<v Speaker 2>game that you kind of had no business winning. But

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<v Speaker 2>they found a way and it certainly puts the team

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<v Speaker 2>in a much better place mentally, psychologically and everything going

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<v Speaker 2>into a short week with a division rival coming in

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<v Speaker 2>here for Thursday night football.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what impressed me the most because a game

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe they didn't have any business winning came a

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<v Speaker 3>week after a game they had no business losing, correct,

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<v Speaker 3>when they had so much momentum going for them in

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth quarter against the Falcons on the road. This

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<v Speaker 3>game a couple things. It also stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You touched on it with Jordan Love inside the red zone.

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<v Speaker 3>There are so many things about him and we're getting

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's we're almost getting long winded. I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 3>getting long winded talking about his poise and his confidence

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<v Speaker 3>and just his composure in those situations. But the kid

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<v Speaker 3>is the guy's just built for red zone situations and

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<v Speaker 3>situational football. Yeah, that played a two ray although it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't technically in the red zone. I mean he's dancing,

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<v Speaker 3>he's scrambling the pocket, he's stepping tall, he's seeing through

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<v Speaker 3>the clutter, and he's finding his receiver on an extended

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<v Speaker 3>play that you don't typically see happen on a two

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<v Speaker 3>point conversion. Usually you got to hit your mark right

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<v Speaker 3>away or you're not going to get the points. They made.

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<v Speaker 3>Play happened, though Matt Lafloory even said he didn't feel

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<v Speaker 3>great about the play call going into that, but Jordan

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<v Speaker 3>Love made the Packers look really smart.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you look at the play on film, just

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<v Speaker 2>another example of how things were not going in the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers direction and they weren't really executing well. Jaden Reid

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<v Speaker 2>comes in motion on that two point conversion and his

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<v Speaker 2>timing on the motion is off. He almost gets hit

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<v Speaker 2>by the shotgun snap because he either he goes too

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<v Speaker 2>far doesn't get their I don't know what exactly his

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<v Speaker 2>assignment was in terms of the motion, but the snap

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<v Speaker 2>on the two point conversion almost hit him in the

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<v Speaker 2>leg and would have completely wrecked that and obviously would

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<v Speaker 2>have changed everything going down the stretch if the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>are down eight as opposed to being down six. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there was so much that the Packers had to do

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<v Speaker 2>to overcome to kind of get out of their own way.

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<v Speaker 2>When you talk about the penalties and the pre snap

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and the holding and the special teams was committing

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<v Speaker 2>penalties and putting them in bad field position and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that kind of stuff. Somehow they just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Lafleur talks about resilience, but it wasn't just resilience.

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<v Speaker 2>There was also a persistence in this game. This team,

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<v Speaker 2>This team showed a persistence, whether you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>defense going out there and just continually getting stops to

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<v Speaker 2>get the ball back to the offense, or whether you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Jordan Love trying to hit Romeo Dobbs against

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<v Speaker 2>Isaac Yadam the one on one coverage on the outside

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<v Speaker 2>because Marshaun Lattimore's on the other side. You don't really

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<v Speaker 2>want to mess with the all pro over there. He

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<v Speaker 2>kept after it and then sure enough they finally connected

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<v Speaker 2>for what turned up out to be the game winning touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then what has to happen after that, it's

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<v Speaker 3>Andres Carlson making that extra point. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 3>even something that got brought up with Rich Pasaccia though

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<v Speaker 3>those are big key moments for a young team, a

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<v Speaker 3>young holder, first year player, and Daniel Wheelan and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>early on Wheeland has the punt return for a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>They make the adjustments there and then honestly, what sort

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<v Speaker 3>of picked the Packers up during that final stretch, to

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<v Speaker 3>my eye, it was that play that they ran on

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<v Speaker 3>the special team's kickoff coverage where you had Darnell Savage

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<v Speaker 3>knifing inside of Keishawn Nixon making an open field tackle

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<v Speaker 3>and making Rashid Shaheed, who actually had that punt return

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<v Speaker 3>for touchdown, right dropping him at the seventeen and making

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<v Speaker 3>the Saints take over the ball at that spot. There

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<v Speaker 3>were some unfortunate things. Derek Carr goes down with the

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<v Speaker 3>ac joint sprain on one of the sacks that Rashawn

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<v Speaker 3>Gary had, but then Gary down the stretch made some

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<v Speaker 3>big plays, four quarterback hits, three sacks. I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know how many pressures he got accredited for with like

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<v Speaker 3>Pro Football Focus, but the guy was constantly around the

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<v Speaker 3>football it was my story after the game. You touched

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<v Speaker 3>on it as well, the complimentary football aspect of this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's everything that was missing in Atlanta. It was President

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<v Speaker 3>Lambellfield on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it just goes to show how, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as we talked about last week, how important crunch time

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<v Speaker 2>is in this business. You know, these games unless unless

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, the Miami Dolphins against the Denver Broncos,

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<v Speaker 2>these games are.

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<v Speaker 1>These games are not.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very rarely out of reach, you know, with when

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<v Speaker 2>they're fifteen minutes to play, when there's still a whole

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<v Speaker 2>quarter to go, and seventeen to nothing looked terrible, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers offensively were playing terribly. But if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get your act together in crunch time, and especially when

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing at home, just like the Falcons last week

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<v Speaker 2>were at home, they get the crowd behind them, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Lafleur said after the game, Momentum is Momentum is

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<v Speaker 2>a weird thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorts of philosophical debates about whether it's real or not

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<v Speaker 2>or or whatever. But man, you've you felt it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you felt it in the stadium that the Lambeau crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>they were there for Jordan Love's first home start. And

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<v Speaker 2>once they had something to cheer about, man, they brought

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<v Speaker 2>it and and yeah, the Saints lost Derek Carr on

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<v Speaker 2>one of those one of those sacks by Rashaun Gary.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamis Winston steps in, He's still got Chris o'lave and

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Thomas and these guys to throw the ball to it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Packers defense just kept kept getting the job done.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I pointed out in my in by what

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<v Speaker 2>you might have misfeature that's on the website, there were two,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really two defensive sequences that not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are talking about because they weren't in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. But you look at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>first half, when Derek Carr is still in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>They've got first and goal in the seven yard line

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<v Speaker 2>with a chance to go up twenty one to zero,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Packers defense held made him kick the field goal.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only seventeen to nothing at the half as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to twenty one. And then on one of Winston's

0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.480
<v Speaker 2>early possessions, he actually gets a first down or two

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<v Speaker 2>and they have a first down at the I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it's the thirty seven yard line. For green Bay. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, forty one yard line of green Bay. So

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<v Speaker 2>they moved the chains one more time. That field goal

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<v Speaker 2>is under fifty yards and they're looking at potentially adding

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<v Speaker 2>three points even with Winston not doing a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But the defense rose up and got a three and

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<v Speaker 2>out there, made them punt. The Saints didn't get to

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get any more points on the board. And then,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you know Packers catch a break when when

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<v Speaker 2>the Saints rookie kicker misses from forty six yards.

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<v Speaker 1>But that goes back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Your point about Andras Carlson with the pat right, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie kicker as well, there's a lot of pressure there. No,

0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.920
<v Speaker 2>thirty three yards for a pat is not forty six

0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.960
<v Speaker 2>yards from the hash for a field goal. But still

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<v Speaker 2>one guy, one rookie made a clutch kick in this

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<v Speaker 2>game and the other one didn't, and it was huge

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<v Speaker 2>in the Packers coming out on the winning side.

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<v Speaker 3>And honors made too, because I mean that thirty eight

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<v Speaker 3>yard er. The Packers don't win this game if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't make that field.

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<v Speaker 1>Goal, Yeah, absolutely, because that was to get him on

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<v Speaker 1>the board.

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<v Speaker 3>If they don't get any points on that drive after

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<v Speaker 3>they've already been stopped on the fourth and two and

0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.360
<v Speaker 3>turned it over. That would have been almost since or moderable.

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<v Speaker 3>Just from a momentum standpoint or rhythm standpoint, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been hard to kick it into that

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<v Speaker 3>extra gear. But this is what had to happen. It

0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.199
<v Speaker 3>was the response the Packers needed to make. You didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have jyr Alexander, who was questionable with the back injurer.

0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.319
<v Speaker 3>You didn't have Christian Wattson, David Baktiari or Aaron Jones. Again,

0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.800
<v Speaker 3>they needed young guys to rise that occasion. Whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not they know enough to know not what they know

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<v Speaker 3>in these matchups, it's irrelevant. It's about what do you

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<v Speaker 3>do when you go out there. I thought that team

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<v Speaker 3>followed the energy of Jordan Love, the twenty five yard

0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.600
<v Speaker 3>scramble that he had to kickstart one of the series,

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<v Speaker 3>the thirty yard pass to Jaden Reid. We saw a

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<v Speaker 3>number of different DPI calls. Again, for as much as

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<v Speaker 3>people have been talking about oh, he throws downfield so often,

0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the Packers are generating yards, They're generating points off those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exciting. Packers are playing an exciting brand of football

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you talk about again about the persistence that

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<v Speaker 2>it took in this comeback, Matt Lafleur continued to try

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<v Speaker 2>to push the ball down the field. This was not

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of dink and dunk. Take what the defenses

0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.880
<v Speaker 2>giving you comeback, and you know, on the one drive,

0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.760
<v Speaker 2>two explosive attempts down the field turn into two defensive

0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.920
<v Speaker 2>pass interference penalties covering sixty seven yards and suddenly you're

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<v Speaker 2>in scoring position to make it a one score game.

0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Jaden Reid he got his hands on some passes that

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<v Speaker 2>he'd like to have back that he feels he should

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<v Speaker 2>have caught. Everybody feels he should have caught those, but

0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Reid kept going to him. Not that he had

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of choice with Aaron Jones and Christian

0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Watson not in the game, but Jayden Reid just kept

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<v Speaker 2>plugging away. He was persistent, He stayed with it, and

0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.880
<v Speaker 2>he makes the big thirty yard diving catch down the

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<v Speaker 2>field that you know, whatever the next gen stats say

0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.480
<v Speaker 2>was thirty percent catch probability or whatever, but he he

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<v Speaker 2>makes the play when he had some other plays earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the game that maybe were a little bit more routine,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, and he he doesn't come up with him.

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<v Speaker 2>But they just these young guys that had that had

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<v Speaker 2>to step up into big roles. They just kept playing

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<v Speaker 2>and they just kept fighting. And Matt lafleur Scher was

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<v Speaker 2>proud of him after the game.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate the analytics and the numbers certainly that played

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<v Speaker 3>into the Packers' decision to go for the two point conversion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>successfully make it, but it always gets I always get

0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.520
<v Speaker 3>the kick out of these percentages or these probabilities, because

0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.080
<v Speaker 3>there was also like a nine ninety seven point four

0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.200
<v Speaker 3>percent probability that the Saints were gonna win that game

0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:01.640
<v Speaker 3>with like seven minutes last day, back and change. But

0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.480
<v Speaker 3>the Packers didn't give up. They believed, and now they

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<v Speaker 3>have to enjoy it very quickly and then prepare for

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<v Speaker 3>the Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's what I want to get to, is how

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<v Speaker 2>quickly the Packers have to turn the page here. But

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0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.240
<v Speaker 2>of challenges here facing the Packers on a short week west.

0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Not only is there obviously the limited preparation time and everything,

0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.840
<v Speaker 2>which which is the same for both teams coming off

0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.800
<v Speaker 2>of a game on Sunday, but the Packers have they

0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.040
<v Speaker 2>have so much about their operation on offense and on

0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.440
<v Speaker 2>special teams in particular, that they need to clean up.

0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.280
<v Speaker 2>There were all the penalties on offense. There was the

0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.600
<v Speaker 2>there were penalties on special teams. There was the punp

0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.120
<v Speaker 2>return allowed for a touchdown. You have so little time

0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.640
<v Speaker 2>right now to try to straighten that stuff out. I mean,

0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you have to review it in some fashion. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, you've got to move on and prepare,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically for a Detroit Lions team that's coming into lambeau

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<v Speaker 2>Field with the same two and one record. Both the

0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Bears and the Vikings are zero to three. So this

0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.800
<v Speaker 2>is for first place in the NFC North at this

0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.240
<v Speaker 2>early stage of the season. The winner is going to

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<v Speaker 2>walk off that field on Thursday night, you know, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on top of the division. Big game here that you know,

0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.600
<v Speaker 2>both of the Packers and Lions games this year are

0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.280
<v Speaker 2>in short weeks on Thursdays, right the one in Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>will beyond Thanksgiving Day. This is the first one, and

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<v Speaker 2>for a Week four game, it feels awfully big.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for a thursdaynight football game, it feels awfully big.

0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's been some blowouts here over the past

0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.880
<v Speaker 3>couple of years in these games, and certainly this one

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<v Speaker 3>is one that I think a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be tuning into. The Lions had such an interesting

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<v Speaker 3>performance against the Falcons. The more I dived into this,

0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.119
<v Speaker 3>that is just a strange game that they played. Defensively,

0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.840
<v Speaker 3>played excellent. They stopped that running game. Jared Goff through

0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:15.040
<v Speaker 3>thirty three passes and targeted four receivers, just ridiculous, kind

0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.600
<v Speaker 3>of like it's a'm and Ross Saint Brown And it

0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.720
<v Speaker 3>was Sam Laporta in this game, and that was pretty

0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.800
<v Speaker 3>much the passing attack. And then Jamior Gibbs I think

0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.000
<v Speaker 3>showed a lot of the flashes that we've seen with him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm telling you right now, Michael I am going

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<v Speaker 3>to telegraph what my final thoughts player to watch for

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have to shoot it pretty soon because the

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<v Speaker 2>game is.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't want to do any spoilers, but I'll

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<v Speaker 3>say this, man, this is a Rashawn Gary game. And

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean by that is the Lions do have

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<v Speaker 3>a couple injuries on the offensive line. There are some

0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.200
<v Speaker 3>guys that are banged up. As good as that group

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<v Speaker 3>has been, and they still were not sure whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not they're going to have David Montgomery was estimated as

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<v Speaker 3>limited on Monday, but that's their third down back and

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<v Speaker 3>I keep on it. But the first thing I watched

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<v Speaker 3>in the first two games with the Lions is Gibbs

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<v Speaker 3>is a very talented back and he looks like he

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<v Speaker 3>needs some seasoning in terms of the other aspects of

0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.080
<v Speaker 3>the position. Packers have to make that count. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to put on pressure to Jared Goff because, as we've

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.600
<v Speaker 3>seen so many times, including last season, when he gets

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<v Speaker 3>into a rhythm and he protects the football, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty efficient offense and it can be difficult to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and this is really interesting the way this falls.

0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.520
<v Speaker 2>And we were kind of hinting at this last week

0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.800
<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't doesn't happen this way very often. But

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<v Speaker 2>here the Packers and Lions are meeting in week four,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have both played the same team each of

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<v Speaker 2>the last two weeks, right, And you know, it's a

0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.520
<v Speaker 2>week to week league in the NFL. Different teams match

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<v Speaker 2>up with opponents in different ways, so you can't you

0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.360
<v Speaker 2>can't read too much into it. But there's a lot

0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.919
<v Speaker 2>of there's a lot of sort of thumbs up thumbs

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<v Speaker 2>down kind of things when you try to make the comparisons.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Detroit Lions, for as much as they control

0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.000
<v Speaker 2>old that win over the Falcons, they only scored twenty

0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.560
<v Speaker 2>points against Atlanta's defense in their own stadium. The Packers

0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.959
<v Speaker 2>had twenty four points against Atlanta in three quarters before

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.520
<v Speaker 2>things kind of fell apart in the fourth quarter on

0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the road there. But then the flip side of it

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<v Speaker 2>is that Atlanta running game that the Packers could not handle.

0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.560
<v Speaker 2>The Lions completely shut it down. I believe they ended

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<v Speaker 2>up as a team the Falcons with only forty four

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:30.160
<v Speaker 2>yards rushing on twenty attempts. So that turned the game

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<v Speaker 2>over to Desmond Ridder, the Falcons quarterback. It was all

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.960
<v Speaker 2>in his hands, and the Lions just made his life

0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.760
<v Speaker 2>miserable in the pocket. They were getting after him. Play

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.280
<v Speaker 2>after play after play. They end up with seven sacks

0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.000
<v Speaker 2>of Rittter in the game. So when I look at

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<v Speaker 2>this one, and I totally agree with you with regard

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<v Speaker 2>to Rashaan Gary, the flip side of it is true

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<v Speaker 2>for me. If you're the Packers, Aiden Hutchinson is the

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<v Speaker 2>guy you can't let dictate what is going to be

0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.639
<v Speaker 2>going on out there. And the Lions have a good defense,

0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and they have other good defensive players aside from Aiden Hutchinson,

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<v Speaker 2>But to me, it feels like he's the you know,

0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the old Reggie Jackson New York Yankees line. He's the

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 2>straw that stirs the drink on that Lions defense. I

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 2>think we saw it against the Chiefs in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the kickoff opener in Week one, on that Thursday night game.

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<v Speaker 2>Aiden Hutchinson is the guy who makes that defense go,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, And if the Packers can whether David Baktier

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 2>is gonna play, we don't know, you know, Zach Tom

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.520
<v Speaker 2>injured his knee, you know, at right tackle. We don't

0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 2>really know where the Packers are going to be on

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the offensive line for this game. But man, you've got

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.720
<v Speaker 2>to keep Aiden Hutchinson from taking command of this thing

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.439
<v Speaker 2>because he can wreck a whole lot offense.

0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.840
<v Speaker 3>And if you haven't watched the Lions yet this year,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen a lot of them. What I would

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<v Speaker 3>suggest is in the back of your mind, kind of

0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 3>keep twenty nineteen Zadarius Smith in your head. I mean,

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 3>they are going to move him around all over the place.

0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean John Runyon, Royce Newman, if he gets the

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 3>call again at left guard, They're going to have to

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<v Speaker 3>be aware of his whereabouts in this one because they

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<v Speaker 3>just they don't plug him in at one spot. It's

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 3>not even about playing them off the edges. They'll play

0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.200
<v Speaker 3>him anywhere now at this point, and the guy can

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 3>actually wreck the game from there because it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>about the sacks that he gets, it's the way in

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<v Speaker 3>which the defense around him adjust to that. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you this, man, at the end of last year, I

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 3>know the Lions statistically we're not very good. I think

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 3>we saw two of the best performances that they had

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<v Speaker 3>against Green Bay, both at their place and then here

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<v Speaker 3>in the finale.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree entirely, but that.

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Momentum they had at the end of last season with

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.159
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Glenn's unit, they continued to build off of it,

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.440
<v Speaker 3>and I think they've been one of the more stingy

0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 3>defenses so far this season. You had to read about

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.320
<v Speaker 3>it when I wrote about it in Inbox. But you know,

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Brian Branch is looking like an absolute gem of a

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 3>pick there in the middle of the second round, a

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.360
<v Speaker 3>guy that had a first round grade. But everybody's like, oh,

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.200
<v Speaker 3>it's twenty twenty three. Do you want to spend a

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 3>first round pick on a safety. He's reminding everybody about

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 3>how impactful that position can be. And again, Michael, that

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<v Speaker 3>is a spot in that secondary that they really have

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<v Speaker 3>struggle gold in recent years. To Phill they had some

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<v Speaker 3>decent pass rushers, they had some good linebackers, but they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have defensive backs. They're starting to find some defensive backs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah they are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's coming together for the Lions defensively, and you wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they they certainly certainly made life difficult for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs, and that kickoff opener. They had some some

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<v Speaker 2>ups and downs against Geno Smith. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a high scoring game there in Week two, although the

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<v Speaker 2>Seahawks did have a pick six off of golf in

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<v Speaker 2>that game, so that that added to the point total.

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<v Speaker 2>That when it comes to points against, that counts against

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<v Speaker 2>your defense kind of unfairly in that respect. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean holding the holding the Atlanta Falcons, a two

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<v Speaker 2>to zero team that had a lot going for him,

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<v Speaker 2>holding those guys to just six points last week. These

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<v Speaker 2>short weeks, you never you never know what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Both teams are up against the same limitations quickly before

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<v Speaker 2>we go. Aside from anything that we've already talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>anything else that jumps out at you as a key

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<v Speaker 2>to victory for Green Bay in.

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<v Speaker 3>This field, position and time of possession, the Lions have

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<v Speaker 3>done a really good job of both of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>I personally said for a number of years, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Fox is probably one of the more underrated punters

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL. A lot of people don't talk about

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<v Speaker 3>this guy, but the guy only puts together solid performance

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<v Speaker 3>after solid performance, a consistent forty two net punter. When

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the Lions are playing their brand of football, they are

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<v Speaker 3>controlling the temple, those things, the tempo of it. Khalif

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<v Speaker 3>Raymond involved in that, and you mentioned it Michael a

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<v Speaker 3>couple weeks back with that pick six. That's the one

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<v Speaker 3>thing that Green Bay I think is going to need

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<v Speaker 3>in this game to succeed. I'm not saying you have

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<v Speaker 3>to go and score a touchdown, but I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 3>you need to find ways to take away the football

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<v Speaker 3>and generate points off those takeaways. That's been one area

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<v Speaker 3>outside of the you know, the kuway Walker interception that

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 3>they've kind of struggled with here early on. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you can win the turnover battle, you can win the

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.439
<v Speaker 3>time of possession. I think the Green Bit Packers can

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<v Speaker 3>get out of this thing. Three and one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the thing that jumps out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of it comes off of just with

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<v Speaker 2>what the Packers are struggling with with their ground game

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, and then also you look at what the

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<v Speaker 2>Lions did to the Falcons offensively. The Packers have to

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to stay balanced in this game, and

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay's run game is not where they want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be. Certainly, if Aaron Jones can get back and

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<v Speaker 2>be able to play in this game, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a huge boost in that regard. But as much as

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<v Speaker 2>the ground game is struggling, You're still going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to find a way to be effective in some fashion

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground, because the Falcons found out last week

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<v Speaker 2>what it's like if you become one dimensional against this

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Lion's defense, it's lights out. I mean, Desmond Ritter just

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<v Speaker 2>had no chance back there. He was getting buried every

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 2>other play when he's trying to throw, and the Packers

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.160
<v Speaker 2>can't get into Packers can't get into that kind of game.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to find a way to get something you

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<v Speaker 2>can rely on, something that can be consistent on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground so that Lion's defense has to play You, honest,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other thing I'll close on this. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're absolutely right there's a lot of corrections green By

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<v Speaker 3>need to make coming out of that game against the Saints.

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<v Speaker 3>But to me, now, maybe this is just me being

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<v Speaker 3>too much of a softy. I guess you could say,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like, well, a soft, sensitive softy. No. But

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<v Speaker 3>to me, I had almost bring up those last ten

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<v Speaker 3>minutes of film and just put that in front of

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 3>the team too and be like, this is what it's

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to look like.

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<v Speaker 1>This, Yeah, this is who this is who we are.

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<v Speaker 3>This is who we are, because you know what's great

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<v Speaker 3>about that sequence, Michael, It's not like the Packers just

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<v Speaker 3>completed every single pass and they everything went right. No,

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Love had plenty of incompletions during that time as well,

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<v Speaker 3>but they kept getting after it. They kept chopping wood.

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<v Speaker 3>I think was one of the expressions that Preston Smith

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<v Speaker 3>used after the game. And these are the type of

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 3>matchups you want to be able to do. Because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you, Michael, the way the schedule's lining up, things

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 3>are favorable for Green Bay. They needed to get out

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 3>of this first stretch of the season. Okay, you know

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 3>this wasn't advantageous to go two weeks on the road

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<v Speaker 3>and then come back home if you go, if you

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 3>split on the road, and when your first your first

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.120
<v Speaker 3>two at home, you go into that Monday night game

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<v Speaker 3>against the Raiders feeling pretty good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And obviously everybody's crossing their fingers. We're probably not

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<v Speaker 2>going to know until ninety minutes before kickoff just where

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers are health wise with all of these guys

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 2>who have been who have been missing time. But hey,

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that's life in the NFL, and the Packers are dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with it every day.

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Now, Packers kept eleven offensive linemen at least on the

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 3>initial fifty three minute man roster, and every day we're

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<v Speaker 3>being reminded about how you need those guys in order

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<v Speaker 3>to navigate a season.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right with that, we'll call it a rap on this

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<v Speaker 2>edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of

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<v Speaker 2>our coverage of the team and everything from Thursday night's

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<v Speaker 2>big game against the Lions at lambeau Field. We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>it all for you on Packers dot com. For Wes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody. We will see you next time.