Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Amy and TJ Podcast. Amy roboc
Speaker 1: here along with my partner TJ Holmes, and we are
Speaker 1: giving you your one stop shop for your latest Diddy
Speaker 1: trial updates. We sit here just a couple blocks away
Speaker 1: from the courthouse and testimony is continuing today right now.
Speaker 1: Frank Piazza is up on the stand. He's a forensic
Speaker 1: video expert, and he's going to be talking about the
Speaker 1: validity of a lot of what we heard and saw
Speaker 1: yesterday regarding that surveillance video in that hotel where we
Speaker 1: see Ditty attacking his then girlfriend Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 2: Frank is probably one of the more boring witnesses. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't say avent right. There have been so many
Speaker 2: salacious and wild and unbelievable and jaw dropping headlines that
Speaker 2: come out of testimony. The prosecution has to have several
Speaker 2: of these types of witnesses, forensic guys who walk the
Speaker 2: jury through it's very important. It can seem tedious, but
Speaker 2: it's important for him to point out in that video,
Speaker 2: like you said, the validity of it. Brianna Bongolan as
Speaker 2: another one's going to be up on the stand today.
Speaker 2: She is a friend of Cassie Ventura Fine and also
Speaker 2: someone who claims that Diddy dangled her over a balcony
Speaker 2: and rolled. It's interesting. She is expected to be up
Speaker 2: today as well, but she's another of several who are
Speaker 2: testifying but clearly don't want to. They had to be compelled,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 1: Brianna actually was first up to take the witness stand,
Speaker 1: but it's because she had to take that immunity or
Speaker 1: trying to get the judge. She's waiting for the judge
Speaker 1: to grant an order of immunity, so she can't testify
Speaker 1: until she gets that order. The judge will likely do that.
Speaker 1: It just is kind of clerical. We're just waiting for
Speaker 1: him to say it. But she wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that she had that immunity because not only is she
Speaker 1: expected to testify about being dangled over a.
Speaker 3: Seventeen floor I believe balcony.
Speaker 4: But she alsos to get above ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't really matter, right, but yes, apparently it
Speaker 1: was seventeen floors up, which is terrifying. And she's also
Speaker 1: expected to testify about illicit drug use. So that's why
Speaker 1: she needed the immunity, because she would be basically ratting
Speaker 1: on herself yeah, I mean, lack of a better word. Yes,
Speaker 1: she'd be ratting on herself about using drugs that are illegal,
Speaker 1: so that is expected. But it's interesting I asked you this,
Speaker 1: and it's part of the reason why Frank Piazza is
Speaker 1: up on the stand now speaking to the validity of
Speaker 1: that surveillance video. But it was testified so many times
Speaker 1: yesterday that did he believe this was the only copy
Speaker 1: that he bought, that one hundred thousand dollars he gave
Speaker 1: was the only copy of that surveillance video, but clearly
Speaker 1: it was not, and was it explained then how the
Speaker 1: rest of the world saw that.
Speaker 3: Video even though did he thought he had the only copy.
Speaker 2: Well, it hasn't been revealed who was actually behind it.
Speaker 2: But there was the argument that the prosecution is made
Speaker 2: that of course the video wasn't doctored, and we can't
Speaker 2: show it to you to prove it wasn't. The point
Speaker 2: is what we all saw was a cell phone recording
Speaker 2: of the surveillance video. So it appears that someone played
Speaker 2: it for someone and someone recorded it on a cell phone,
Speaker 2: but they didn't get the actual USB copy of it.
Speaker 2: Is how the prosecution at least has explained it, so
Speaker 2: there is no you can't go through do a forensic
Speaker 2: analysis of it. We didn't doctor it, obviously, we didn't
Speaker 2: because it came from a cell phone, as their argument.
Speaker 2: But that cell phone video and that one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars you just mentioned was the centerpiece of the last
Speaker 2: full day of testimony we have in the books, and
Speaker 2: that's the one we're going to talk about. There were
Speaker 2: two folks in particular that were One was Derek Ferguson,
Speaker 2: who was with Diddy for twenty years and he ended
Speaker 2: up being the CFO. But first was Eddie Garcia, this
Speaker 2: guy also under immunity testifying because he was the guy
Speaker 2: that Diddy reached out to allegedly after the incident with
Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura Fine in that hallway, reached out and immediately
Speaker 2: said I need that video and I'll pay for it.
Speaker 1: And he paid handsomely for it. He ended up giving
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars, Eddie Garcia said to him, and
Speaker 1: he divvied that up fifty thousand for his boss, twenty
Speaker 1: thousand for a coworker, he took thirty thousand for himself.
Speaker 1: He testified that Diddy made it very clear to him
Speaker 1: don't spend the money all at once right away. He
Speaker 1: didn't want anything to seem untoward. If someone suddenly has
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars cash to pay for something large. He
Speaker 1: was like, he was cautioning him not to draw attention.
Speaker 4: That was some good fellow's ish right there.
Speaker 2: Right after you do a big heist, there's always one
Speaker 2: idiot that goes and buys a car and then gets caught.
Speaker 2: That's what he did, That is what did He was
Speaker 2: trying to tell him not and.
Speaker 4: That to do.
Speaker 1: So. Eddie Garcia then testifies that's exactly what he ended
Speaker 1: up doing, going and buying a new car.
Speaker 2: So if you go back with his look, did he,
Speaker 2: according to at least this testimony, According to the testimony,
Speaker 2: as soon as it happened, did he knew it was
Speaker 2: bad and he knew he needed to get his hands
Speaker 2: on that surveillance video. He knew it immediately. So Garcia says,
Speaker 2: he gets a call. He testifies he gets a call
Speaker 2: from Sean Holmes saying keps calling him, I know you're
Speaker 2: a good guy, like was really kind of sweetening, just
Speaker 2: talking him up, and said want you to help us
Speaker 2: out and need to get this video Garcia said he
Speaker 2: didn't have the authority. He actually didn't have access to it.
Speaker 2: He now has to go get somebody else involved.
Speaker 4: His supervisor. That's crazy that you would take that to
Speaker 4: your supervisor.
Speaker 3: That blows my mind.
Speaker 1: You're being bribed to sell off a piece of video
Speaker 1: that is basically criminal evidence, because you know, when you
Speaker 1: see what's on that tape, that is a criminal act.
Speaker 1: And he then felt comfortable enough to call his boss
Speaker 1: and say, hey, can we do did he write? Give
Speaker 1: him this video? And he's going to pay us? And
Speaker 1: then his boss agreed that that's mind blowing to me.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know how there was another person
Speaker 1: involved too, but three people knew about this video and
Speaker 1: were paid for it.
Speaker 2: See is we stopped probably once an episode that we've
Speaker 2: been doing this every day, and we stop and we
Speaker 2: have this moment. Damn, somebody knew how many folks were complicit.
Speaker 2: You are watching a vicious assault and you go, you
Speaker 2: know what, I won't tell nobody. If you give me
Speaker 2: fifty grand, I won't tell nobody. You can give me
Speaker 2: thirty grand, I won't tell anybody. You give me twenty grand.
Speaker 2: That's tough, man. You saw this woman be victimized. It's
Speaker 2: like walking past somebody being beaten on the street. If
Speaker 2: you see a man beating a woman on the street,
Speaker 2: are you just gonna walk by? Are you gonna say, hey,
Speaker 2: you give me a hundred dollars, I'll forget about it.
Speaker 4: Or whatever it may be. Be tough, you're not gonna
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 3: I wonder how they all slept at night after that.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know what's going on in everybody else's life,
Speaker 2: and you try to give folks grace, but this is
Speaker 2: another time where robes we talk about there were so
Speaker 2: many people who knew who had an oppertunity. So this
Speaker 2: isn't just they were aware of They played an active
Speaker 2: hand in covering.
Speaker 4: Up a crime.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Do you do you recall it? This was twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: or twenty seventeen. I'm trying to remember which year it was,
Speaker 1: but bottom line, this didn't come out until last year. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So this was all buried for at least six seven
Speaker 1: eight years, eight years, eight years.
Speaker 2: That one.
Speaker 4: It just it gets me.
Speaker 3: It's just it's wild.
Speaker 2: We keep talking about he was allowed to do these things,
Speaker 2: and he just had so much power, He had so
Speaker 2: much influence it needed some one person, and there seemed
Speaker 2: to be hundreds, quite frankly robes who had an opportunity
Speaker 2: to say something. This was a collaborative effort to help
Speaker 2: him cover up. The money just makes it ickier. But
Speaker 2: you how could you? Can you imagine watching that video
Speaker 2: and go okay, fine, I won't say nothing.
Speaker 3: It makes me feel like everybody has a price.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh, guy's work in hotel security. How
Speaker 2: much is he making an hour or whatever it may be?
Speaker 2: And this cause of Garcia said. He reached out to
Speaker 2: Diddy later asking for a job. Never heard back from Diddy,
Speaker 2: Fine and Dandy, but this was Garcia said, yeah, see,
Speaker 2: gets Diddy on the phone. Diddy, they end up meeting
Speaker 2: face to face and Garcia brings him the USB file,
Speaker 2: one hundred grand in cash in a brown paper bag
Speaker 2: and a money counting machine. This is only stuff I've
Speaker 2: seen in movies, Like.
Speaker 3: You said, Goodfellas, that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 1: And also we mentioned this, but just it's also just
Speaker 1: the threat of personal safety was involved as well. Not
Speaker 1: only were they paid handsomely handsomely, but he also took
Speaker 1: photos of all of their ideas and basically let them
Speaker 1: know yes, I know who you are, I know where
Speaker 1: you live. I can come find you if any of
Speaker 1: this gets out. I'm fascinated by the fact that someone
Speaker 1: had that video on their cell phone for all those years,
Speaker 1: and technically, when Eddie Garcia told him this is the
Speaker 1: only copy this is, you know, this is the only
Speaker 1: only keep Bob basically what it's a it was a
Speaker 1: USB from the actual surveillance video. I guess that technically
Speaker 1: was true. But someone, I mean, I imagine how or
Speaker 1: why someone took a video of the video and then
Speaker 1: kept it on their cell phone all those years.
Speaker 2: I would say it should have been one of the
Speaker 2: supervisors or one of the security guards. It's some insurance
Speaker 2: policy you never know where you're going to need that
Speaker 2: again probably and again that's me watching gangster movies maybe thinking,
Speaker 2: but they might have done it for safety. Who else
Speaker 2: would have done it? Did somebody finally get so upset?
Speaker 2: Did somebody finally go this is it when they saw
Speaker 2: Cassie was about to sue him and her lawsuit cooms
Speaker 2: and finance someone who knows I don't know where how
Speaker 2: CNN got their hands on it.
Speaker 1: And if that security video never came out, would we
Speaker 1: be sitting watching observing this trial. Would Cassie have felt
Speaker 1: compelled or at least just backed up enough, you know,
Speaker 1: may to file that lawsuit when that video came out.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 1: Total proof of everything she had endured, or at least
Speaker 1: a version of where people would start to believe what
Speaker 1: she had to say. So many people who have said
Speaker 1: things about Ditty didn't have any real proof. Now there's proof.
Speaker 1: Now there's physical, irrefutable proof. That might have emboldened Cassie
Speaker 1: to go ahead and file her lawsuits.
Speaker 4: Oll she filed that sucker ahead of she'd seen in releasing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but the question is does she know it existed?
Speaker 3: Like all of that, the timing was pretty.
Speaker 2: Close to your point. Yes, to your point, she one
Speaker 2: hundred percent knew it existed. And according to Eddie Garcia
Speaker 2: in the stand yesterday, he talked to her on the phone.
Speaker 2: Did he put cassieven to refine on the phone, and
Speaker 2: she backed up what Ditty was saying, which was, we
Speaker 2: don't want this video to come out, can you please
Speaker 2: help us out? And she had a movie coming out.
Speaker 1: So she knew that at least one person had seen
Speaker 1: the video and had had their hands on it. So
Speaker 1: I just wonder how that how much that may have
Speaker 1: played in her decision to.
Speaker 3: File the lawsuit.
Speaker 1: It was out there exactly, and I'm just curious which
Speaker 1: one if there was any conversation beforehand. But interestingly, with
Speaker 1: Cassie having that conversation, Eddie Garcia testified that their real
Speaker 1: concern wasn't about the fact that they were covering something
Speaker 1: up or whether or not they were going to get paid.
Speaker 1: They were concerned that if Cassie decided to file a
Speaker 1: police report, police would absolutely then come to the hotel
Speaker 1: and ask for surveillance footage, and if they saw that
Speaker 1: the footage was erased, deleted, or destroyed, that might have
Speaker 1: put some legal questions towards them. And so he was
Speaker 1: just concerned, Hey, I need to know that neither one
Speaker 1: of y'all, especially Cassie, is not going to go to
Speaker 1: the police after the fact, and then I'm going to
Speaker 1: get busted for having given you this video.
Speaker 2: This is all a mess, And the point of all
Speaker 2: of this is they're trying to the prosecution build a
Speaker 2: case and showing that this man used his business enterprise
Speaker 2: which was a part of fueling a criminal enterprise, and
Speaker 2: a criminal enterprise has to have crimes, so he wasn't
Speaker 2: necessarily out there being a drug dealer or something you
Speaker 2: see from some of the other traditional mobsters.
Speaker 4: In New York.
Speaker 2: But coersion, dangling somebody off of a building, drugs, violence,
Speaker 2: this is all criminal behavior. So this is a part
Speaker 2: of them trying to stack it up and make a
Speaker 2: case against him. But Eddie Garcia, his testimony was incredible,
Speaker 2: yes one hundred to see what he was willing to do.
Speaker 2: And they knew immediately this wasn't a so to all
Speaker 2: of us that whoa where'd the video come from? They
Speaker 2: have known for eight years.
Speaker 3: That's crazy that this was documented.
Speaker 1: And you know what also is interesting given all of that,
Speaker 1: to then have Derek Ferguson take the stand, did he's
Speaker 1: CFO and say that he never saw anything untoward, He
Speaker 1: never saw any improper financial movement. And with all of
Speaker 1: this testimony, we've heard about Diddy ping people off, or
Speaker 1: even Cassie Ventura finds his own mother saying she wired
Speaker 1: him twenty thousand dollars. Now, Ferguson did acknowledge that there
Speaker 1: was a twenty thousand dollars payment back to Cassie Ventura's mother,
Speaker 1: so that did exist. But was that not questionable? Why
Speaker 1: was he paying? You know, it's hard for me to yes,
Speaker 1: I'll hard for me to imagine that the CFO had
Speaker 1: no idea of anything illegal or improper happening financially, when
Speaker 1: clearly that had to have happened.
Speaker 3: If what people are alleging.
Speaker 1: Occurred, money had to be exchange, money had to be
Speaker 1: offered in payment to people. What did he think those
Speaker 1: payments were for? Does the CFO isn't that part of
Speaker 1: their responsibility to ask why this money.
Speaker 4: Is being do they?
Speaker 2: Or do they just need to keep the numbers and
Speaker 2: keep the sheets balanced. And he tried to explain, Yeah,
Speaker 2: some folks use cash payments for this. People use expenses
Speaker 2: on that. He said, it was all over the place,
Speaker 2: but he did the record keeping, and he to your point,
Speaker 2: some of these witnesses are able to corroborate what earlier
Speaker 2: witnesses said. We our minds were blown to hear that
Speaker 2: Casue Binturofine's mom sent Diddy twenty thousand essentially trying to
Speaker 2: get her daughter free. And it's like wow, and then
Speaker 2: they sent it back to her. And now this guy
Speaker 2: comes on the stand and say, yeah, I got a
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars payment and then it went back out.
Speaker 4: He said he didn't know what it was for.
Speaker 1: Wow. I still keep thinking about that. The return of
Speaker 1: that twenty thousand dollars had to be the worst that
Speaker 1: mom money you've ever received in your life, because it'd
Speaker 1: be such a sinking feeling, like rejected. You don't get
Speaker 1: your daughter. I still have her and I'm keeping her.
Speaker 1: Here's your money back. That just had to be gutting
Speaker 1: to her. I thought something really interesting occurred when he
Speaker 1: was asked. When Derek Ferguson was asked, do you think
Speaker 1: highly of mister Combs? His response and he took a pause,
Speaker 1: a long pause. I don't know how to respond to that.
Speaker 3: What do you make of that?
Speaker 4: Well, what I made the.
Speaker 2: If that was in the middle of testimony, that might
Speaker 2: have been one thing, But that was the last question
Speaker 2: to him, and it was it leaves an impact. It
Speaker 2: leaves an impression on the jury because this guy was Look,
Speaker 2: he's a numbers guy. He's a Harvard educated guy who's
Speaker 2: been CFO. He does the numbers. I don't know anything
Speaker 2: about a hotel or freak golf or I'm just in
Speaker 2: my office doing my thing.
Speaker 3: Do you believe that I do. Really, I actually.
Speaker 2: Think that's possible. I think there are plenty people in
Speaker 2: his circle. And look, we run around enough in New
Speaker 2: York and industry, we've been in We've been around folks
Speaker 2: in the music industry. There was some we've talked to
Speaker 2: plenty over the years who had an idea. The other
Speaker 2: folks who talk to now like I had no freaking
Speaker 2: idea this kind of stuff, Like just are blown away
Speaker 2: this guy. It's tough because he was with him for
Speaker 2: twenty years.
Speaker 1: That's my point. I'm skeptical as hell. You could have
Speaker 1: purposefully removed yourself from situations where you would have to
Speaker 1: acknowledge that you saw things. So in my mind, he
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to believe that he didn't know
Speaker 1: things were happening. But he deliberately removed himself or wasn't
Speaker 1: a part of any conversation or in any sort of
Speaker 1: room where something could be said, or he could have
Speaker 1: learned something that he would have then had to testify to.
Speaker 4: But the smart okay, fine.
Speaker 1: But then he's but that's also still you know something's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: You just don't want to know what's going on. You
Speaker 2: want plausible deniability.
Speaker 3: So is plausible deniability.
Speaker 2: Called to a stand and put on their oath, you
Speaker 2: can honestly say, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That might be illegal versus a moral dilemma, because I
Speaker 1: cannot believe that he didn't think that stuff was happening.
Speaker 2: He thought what he saw, and there is no way
Speaker 2: he didn't.
Speaker 4: Hear There's no way he didn't.
Speaker 3: That's my point.
Speaker 2: Or maybe he was the square in the office and
Speaker 2: nobody invited him to a party and he wasn't included.
Speaker 2: It's possible, but I think the testimony least this guy gave,
Speaker 2: he was measured, he was calm, he was sharp, and
Speaker 2: I thought that was an honest answer, the one you
Speaker 2: just talked about there. But if that's the last impression
Speaker 2: this guy known, did he twenty years been with him,
Speaker 2: given straightforward test that was as emotional probably as I
Speaker 2: saw it, And that's not an emotional statement. But to think,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't know what to think about
Speaker 2: this guy that I was with for twenty years, that
Speaker 2: the jury's going to remember that and the way and
Speaker 2: who was at the defense of the prosecution that I
Speaker 2: asked last I can't remember it?
Speaker 4: Was it a redirect?
Speaker 1: Well? He asked if I don't know if this was
Speaker 1: a redirect, but he was asked, you know, has anyone
Speaker 1: did he ever see anyone commit any crimes? No, he
Speaker 1: said no, And he said, what I observed with Bad
Speaker 1: Boy and Sean Combs was a company that really gave
Speaker 1: a lot of young executives a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 3: He put a positive spin on it.
Speaker 1: But we've heard from so many of those young folks,
Speaker 1: maybe not even executives, but artists, emerging artists, saying those
Speaker 1: opportunities came at a devastating cost.
Speaker 2: But like you said, you said artists an executive. This
Speaker 2: is a young guy who was I think he's from
Speaker 2: He's from New York. He's Harvard educated, but I think
Speaker 2: he worked with his dad at a company or something.
Speaker 2: He's just he's a New York guy who made good
Speaker 2: sharp as anything. So to hear him and his testimony
Speaker 2: explain that, yes, I was excited to go to Bad Boy.
Speaker 2: A young guy going, young black guy going to bad Boy.
Speaker 2: You know exactly, that's cool, that's awesome. And this goes
Speaker 2: to Aubrey Odah's been talking to us about it. Depending
Speaker 2: on who you were and where you fell in his
Speaker 2: life and when you were around him, he could be
Speaker 2: the most wonderful, charming, great guy you've ever been around,
Speaker 2: Sean Diddy Combs. Maybe that was this guy's experience and
Speaker 2: he didn't see that other thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he just was mostly in his life via email.
Speaker 1: Quite seriously, I'm saying that, like, maybe he never really
Speaker 1: physically was around him very often to see some of
Speaker 1: these other sides of him and to even get an
Speaker 1: inkling about what was happening.
Speaker 3: Maybe they just had an email relationship.
Speaker 2: You've been around CFOs before. They don't care around bags
Speaker 2: of cash and pill bags and whatnot. These guys are
Speaker 2: in the office heads down a lot of the times,
Speaker 2: usually not the coolest guy in the room. No offense
Speaker 2: to you guys out there. What I'm saying is, for
Speaker 2: all the artists and people have been up and we're
Speaker 2: talking to who seem to come from a different place
Speaker 2: or a different world, this guy doesn't seem to fit
Speaker 2: into it at all. He's an executive. We have to
Speaker 2: remember this is this was a very successful, thriving company.
Speaker 1: Why so, I'm curious with what he testified to, what
Speaker 1: was the what was the benefit to the prosecution to
Speaker 1: have him on What did he corroborate. Well, the twenty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars payment.
Speaker 2: Certainly the twenty thousand, just the structure of his Yeah,
Speaker 2: he didn't have any buyd blowing to who I saw this,
Speaker 2: Oh this was or.
Speaker 1: This money went there? I mean I was kind of
Speaker 1: expecting maybe some of those transactions to be detailed by
Speaker 1: him because he had the account of it. So I
Speaker 1: was actually underwhelmed by what he had to offer in
Speaker 1: terms of bolstering the prosecution's case.
Speaker 2: You got spoiled with headline out the headline after all
Speaker 2: the other witnesses.
Speaker 4: You can't believe what the hell you see it.
Speaker 1: Well, today we're going to get perhaps a little bit
Speaker 1: more of that type of testimony because we are expecting,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, Brianna Bongolan to actually take the stand today.
Speaker 1: We're expecting that later today, and then after that we're
Speaker 1: all kind of waiting for this Jane character to testify
Speaker 1: that as a pseudonym, Jane Doe is what the moniker
Speaker 1: is that they're giving her. But there are real concerns
Speaker 1: given what happened with Mia. Mia was also being protected
Speaker 1: because she is allegedly a rape survivor. She claims that
Speaker 1: did he raped her and sexually assaulted her. So she
Speaker 1: was offered that anonymity, and unfortunately, at least one YouTuber
Speaker 1: put her name out there and has now been banned
Speaker 1: from the courtroom.
Speaker 3: But that's a real concern.
Speaker 1: Execution has asked when Jane does take the stand, they're
Speaker 1: asking the judge to consider what happened with Mia, and
Speaker 1: they're asking that video feeds actually be cut into some
Speaker 1: of these overflow rooms. They're trying to put in some
Speaker 1: extra layers or protection to make sure that Jane's actual
Speaker 1: identity doesn't also get released, because there are a lot
Speaker 1: of Didty supporters out there and potentially people who are
Speaker 1: looking to out some of these women, at least that's
Speaker 1: what it appeared to be at least with Mia, So
Speaker 1: there are real concerns.
Speaker 3: We don't know what the judge is going to rule
Speaker 3: on that, and the.
Speaker 2: Ditty supporters, some of them are in the courthouse wearing
Speaker 2: free puff attire. The overflow room rolls. I'm curious to
Speaker 2: see what happens with this. We've been reading more and
Speaker 2: more about it, but it's become a little bit of
Speaker 2: a rowdy place, turned into somewhat of a where they
Speaker 2: say a watch party atmosphere where this is the overflow
Speaker 2: area where members of the public can be, where journalists are.
Speaker 2: And yes, there are some supporters of Ditty in there,
Speaker 2: but they say it's gotten a little loud, and it's
Speaker 2: gotten a little rowdy. And the Washington Post reporter we
Speaker 2: need to get her name because we want to give
Speaker 2: her credit.
Speaker 4: We've been using a lot of her stuff, she says.
Speaker 2: A couple of folks walked out of the overfrow room,
Speaker 2: like some influencers, excitedly yelling let's go viral, like they
Speaker 2: had something that's disgusting.
Speaker 3: It is, let's go viral.
Speaker 1: You know, when anyone tries to profit off of like
Speaker 1: actual painful, devastating, horrific situations, it just it's sickening. So yes,
Speaker 1: let's go viral free puff. That's deeply concerning to think
Speaker 1: that those are some of the folks who are reporting
Speaker 1: on this trial and what's happening inside the courtroom. It's
Speaker 1: certainly not the decorum that any of us are used
Speaker 1: to in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: All right, folks, well, we are keeping our eye on
Speaker 2: everything that's happening in the courthouse. That's only a couple
Speaker 2: of blocks from us here.
Speaker 4: Actually, We will.
Speaker 2: Continue to keep you updated and in form folks, but
Speaker 2: as always, Swamy Robock I am TJ.
Speaker 4: Holmes.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.