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Speaker 2: What if I told you there was more to the

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Speaker 2: story behind game changing events? Get ready for my new podcast,

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Speaker 2: That Moment with Damon John will jump into the personal

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Speaker 2: stories of some of the most influential people on the planet,

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Speaker 2: from business mobiles and celebrities to athletes and artists.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to vast Moment with Damon John, and.

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Speaker 2: I hope you are ready today for a really fun

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Speaker 2: episode because today I'm sitting with the prank king, James S. Murray,

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Speaker 2: better known as from the hit series and Practical Jokers. Now,

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Speaker 2: I learn from someone who tells jokes and orchestrates pranks

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Speaker 2: Murry is a very talented writer, executive producer, and comedian.

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Speaker 2: He's a member of the comedy troupe Everybody Knows the Tenderloins,

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Speaker 2: We're talking people big, people like Kevin Hard and Richard

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Speaker 2: murray Man, thank you so much for joining us. I

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Speaker 1: No, No, it wasn't me. First of all, an honor

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Speaker 2: But the guy made you know, now the there's two

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Speaker 1: and then we used to do sketch comedy. We don't

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Speaker 1: really do that anymore. But no, that I mean that's

437
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Speaker 1: what we started. We did in prov in high school together,

438
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 1: and in Practical Jokers is ostensibly an improv show.

439
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Speaker 2: No, yeah it is, but you know you have a

440
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: best sit in audience because there are already fans of

441
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: you and they're waiting right to hear you, right, so

442
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: you have the best at interest.

443
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 3: But it started some way up.

444
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: Would there be a Would there be a more difficult

445
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: job in entertainment than being a stand up comedian that

446
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: to earn every single joke?

447
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how setups do it. I honestly don't,

448
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: because we we're different than the typical standup We travel together,

449
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: so we're in it together. But we've also formed this

450
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: connection with our audience that I think a typical comic

451
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: doesn't have, Like we play actors on TV that you

452
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: might recognize, and like we play ourselves on TV. You know,

453
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: people come up and they feel they have an emotional

454
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: connection to us and they feel like they know us,

455
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: which they do. They know our real personality. So you

456
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: walk on the stage with a giant, giant advantage.

457
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Speaker 2: That'shy I said, I got a vested interest, But my

458
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: question become rarely and even at this level where they

459
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: have a vested interest.

460
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Speaker 3: And I don't like the film, but I think everybody

461
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Speaker 3: would have that.

462
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Speaker 2: Have you ever had a bad night or a night

463
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Speaker 2: where you really thought you got comfortable with who you

464
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 2: are and what you do and it really didn't work

465
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 2: out that well? Now maybe maybe you go, well they

466
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: weren't rolling over, you know, holding their something it was okay?

467
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: Or did you get maybe a boot? I'm I'm trying

468
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: to find that to see that when people they get

469
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: to your level of uh, you know, where people really

470
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Speaker 2: love what you do?

471
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Speaker 3: Do you still do you ever get to that point?

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, man, We're we're always our own worst critics

473
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Speaker 1: for sure. You know, I always know when it can

474
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Speaker 1: deliver joke better and the guys that I feel it, uh,

475
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: anytime our performances off is usually liquor related. You do

476
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: one too many shots of whiskey in the afternoon, then

477
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: you got got a sober up for the show, and

478
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: now you're like, oh, shoot, shouldn't have that last shot

479
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: you felt?

480
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Speaker 2: You know. I know there's some comed comics and and

481
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Speaker 2: or speakers or a lot of people that film themselves.

482
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm talking about when you do a live do you

483
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: go back and critique it. Do you have your your

484
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: nearest and best critics who will tell you the truth?

485
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: Would it be the fans that you know really know

486
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: you and will tell you your target? I mean, how do

487
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: you how do you stay on that edgine and critique yourself.

488
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Speaker 1: That's that's why having the other guys on stage is

489
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: and valuable. Like we are self critiquing during the show,

490
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, like who the microway from your mouth and

491
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: you're whispering to the other guys and you can feel it.

492
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: As a comedian, you can feel when something's out landing

493
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Speaker 1: or could be landing better if you twist or change

494
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: it or come up with a different joke. You just

495
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: feel it and know it. You know, that's our That's

496
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: why we get paid. That's why people pay for tickets

497
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: to make sure that we're at our best. So I

498
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: also feel a responsibility in life in general to always

499
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: be at my best, you know, like like you, I

500
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: write books I've gotten I've got eight books out in

501
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: store now and two more coming next year, adult thrillers,

502
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: children's books like you and uh. And I feel a

503
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: personal responsibility to our fan base to make sure they

504
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: are excellent, you know. Uh, same thing with their live shows.

505
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: They have to be great. The TV show has to

506
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: be great because the audience trusts us with it being great.

507
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Speaker 3: You know, we do and we and we love you

508
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: for right now, I'm gonna ask another question.

509
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Speaker 2: I was. I was at some talk show I was

510
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Speaker 2: about to go on, and they said Ben's Ben Siller

511
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: was there, and he was I think he was under

512
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Speaker 2: the weather. Now, I said, you know, hey, if Ben

513
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Speaker 2: is there, you know when he leaves and you know,

514
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: and you know, my dressing room was right there. They

515
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: can he come in for a second? I said sure,

516
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: And he came in and I can tell he was thick.

517
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: I mean, the man must have had the flu and

518
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: he was down. Now, I only say that I never

519
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: wanted to be a rapper or saying I mean I did.

520
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Speaker 2: But you know, there's this version of everybody thinks they

521
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: could sing, so they kind of come up to you

522
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: and they're gonna sing. I happen to be in a

523
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: great position in life where people come up I get

524
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: stopped all the time, thank God. And people want to

525
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: just be able to feed their families or follow their dreams.

526
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: Hey I have an idea, I have an invention, or

527
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: I have a business. These are these are real answers, right,

528
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: what's your sales? And it's cool and and they may

529
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 2: interrupt you in the hoddest places.

530
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Speaker 3: But when Ben walks in.

531
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Speaker 2: That room, I couldn't stop smiling. I mean, this guy

532
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: was was was was Greg fucker. He was you know,

533
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: he was you know, he was the guy and something

534
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: about Mary with the hook in his mouth.

535
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Speaker 3: He was the guy that you.

536
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Speaker 2: He was the He's the you know, And so I

537
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: would I was laughing so hard. And when I saw

538
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: him and he was probably like, I don't have time

539
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: for this. I'm sick. The guy's an asshole. Do you

540
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: get Do you get that a lot? Do you ever

541
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: get tied? I mean, you could be having an argument

542
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: with your wife, you could be trying to run in

543
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: the bathroom because you got on you broke a whole

544
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Speaker 2: another emotion out of people.

545
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if I had a nickel for the

546
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: amount of times I've been interrupted while running with diarrhea,

547
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: I would be a very rich man. Yeah, it happens

548
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: all the time, man. But you know you, I think

549
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: that the TV is TV and performing live is half

550
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: the job. The other half of the job is at

551
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Speaker 1: you know, as public figures, we have a responsibility to

552
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: ah be the same in public or you know, so

553
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: I consider taking photos with fans out in public and

554
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: when they come up, you know, kids come up at

555
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: dinner and things like that as the other half of

556
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: my job. I signed up for it years ago. I

557
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: wanted it my whole life, and then we were able

558
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: to get it. And half my job is being great

559
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: on TV, being great on stage, being great when I

560
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: write books. The other half of my job is to

561
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Speaker 1: make sure people have a great experience when they come

562
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: up to me. Because the reason we have these things

563
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: is because they watch it, they support us, they trust

564
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: us to keep them. You know, if we just if

565
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: we make them laugh just a little bit more on

566
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: a typical day, that it's worth it. I consider it

567
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: a huge part of my job.

568
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: You know, I've never heard anybody say that I gotta

569
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: be very long for everybody listening.

570
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: That everybody doesn't feel like that. And I have.

571
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Speaker 2: A I don't have any respect for people that they

572
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: work their life to get to that level and then

573
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: they push people away.

574
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: And I've seen it happen a lot.

575
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: I've seen, you know, celebrity basketball games and a singer

576
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: and a woman coming up with her little three year

577
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: old or seven year old girl and.

578
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: Say, hey, you know, can you you know, can you

579
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: sign a RD Or you're like, hey, we'll play in

580
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: a basketball game.

581
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: You're a singer, you know, other of them like bass

582
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: whole you You're not in the NBA. You're here for

583
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: a reason, right, And maybe maybe that's the difference of

584
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: your career and others, because your career is.

585
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: To go out there and bring joy and work for

586
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: every kind of laugh and joke. Maybe I don't know.

587
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Maybe I happen to know that most singers and entertainers

588
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: they wanted to bring joy to people too. They want

589
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: to sing a song, but maybe they had a heartache

590
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: in their life and they sang a great song that

591
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: became the biggest song in the world and it keeps

592
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: playing like you have to earn it.

593
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Speaker 3: Every time, and I guess I don't know, but I have.

594
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Speaker 2: There's probably about there's a good portion of people who

595
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: are in this spotlight who knew they wanted to be

596
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: in this spotlight, who really shun people away, and I

597
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: just I'm fascinated. So when you say it, and I'm

598
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: the same way as you, I don't want people thinking that,

599
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's always like that. There's a lot of

600
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: assholes out there, And I really appreciate you saying it

601
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: in a good way of going. You know what, that's

602
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: my job because I always say the day that I'm

603
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: tired of it.

604
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: I see the cameras around me, I need to step

605
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Speaker 3: away from the camera.

606
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think it's a fundamental human nature

607
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: right is to always resent what you have, and I

608
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: think it's just in our DNA as a species. So

609
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: for me, I can't imagine living another way. Like I

610
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: wanted this my whole life. From when I was a kid,

611
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to be a comedian, knew I

612
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: wanted to entertain and then failed for so long, but

613
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: and tried every way possible to succeed and then when

614
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: we got it and it kept going and going and going,

615
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, man, this is the I'm living the

616
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: best possible life ever. It's made all good things happen,

617
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: like the reason I can write books, the reason I

618
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: can tour around the country, around the world, the reason

619
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: I have a beautiful home, and the reason it's all

620
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 1: because of our fan base. And I don't resent it.

621
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: I love it and I embrace it, and I don't know,

622
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: and I do recognize that people have different tolerances for that.

623
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of born with a higher

624
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: tolerance for public in direction in the average person, I think.

625
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: But I love it, man, It's part of our job

626
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: for sure.

627
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Well let's talk about when you're behind the camera, because

628
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 2: there's a you know, executive producer embers of the thing

629
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: you have.

630
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the camera. I'm a total dick, that's what.

631
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: You know. How it is?

632
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: And you know some people have the oh my man

633
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: for this and that, I don't do it like this

634
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: and that. So I want to know, how are you

635
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: you know, I know you could be joking. I never know,

636
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: because you're in a practical toka. But well, when do

637
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: you when do you need to be a dick period

638
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: any I'm talking about you know, listen, if I'm at

639
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: the store, think got the master out because they keep

640
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: the masks on. But there's somebody, you know, really steps

641
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: on my toe or or like pushing, like ignorance, whatever

642
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: it is. What I'm just using as an example, I

643
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: tend to walk away from it because they don't know

644
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: who I am, maybe at the time, or maybe they

645
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: do and either they're trying to start something or even

646
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: if they're not, as soon as I turn it on,

647
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't have that. I'm on TMD in the wrong way. Yeah,

648
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: you know, when are you a dick?

649
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: Uh? Interesting question.

650
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever.

651
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: Been asked that in an interview before. I don't know.

652
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: It's really hard to push my buttons in that way.

653
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Only I think I'm a I would be a dick.

654
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Speaker 1: I could I could be pushed into that if someone

655
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: disrespected my wife. Yeah, probably, uh, probably my only trigger

656
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: at this point, you know. Uh. And often oftentimes it's accidental,

657
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: like somebody comes up there excited, if they bump into her,

658
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: push it, what have you? Uh that I could see

659
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: reacting to, not like childhood where I punched the bully

660
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: in his face. You know, but when are.

661
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: You holding it back? Let me give you another example.

662
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: Here's when I hold it back.

663
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: I hold it back or not only who I am,

664
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Speaker 2: but I hold it back because even if I did

665
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: not have a public stage, it's not going to end.

666
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: Up well for me when the waiter comes to my

667
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 3: table and now the waiter for many years.

668
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: Red lobster, Right.

669
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you man. You know I was the way

670
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: from any years now gave a restaurant on the planet.

671
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: You're telling me eight out of ten waiters table they

672
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 2: usually and what if people want to table?

673
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: Hey, can I thank you it?

674
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm waiting for them to do this, but they

675
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: never put out a pen in the paper?

676
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: Can Can I tell you a funny quick?

677
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

678
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: So, uh, you know when we first sold the TV show, uh,

679
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: we get picked up for season two. So the president

680
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: of the network back then and the second command of

681
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: the network wanted to take us out to dinner to

682
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: celebrate that we got picked up for season two. It's

683
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: a big deal, right, So the president the network wanted

684
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: to take us to a really expensive seafood place in

685
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: New York City called per Se, Right, like, no, no, no, no, no, We

686
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: don't want to go to per Se. We want to

687
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: go to Red Lobster in Times Square to celebrate. And

688
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: in the Number two. The president of the network was

689
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: the type of guy that had never been to Red

690
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: Lobster in his entire life, right, and so he he

691
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: relents and said fine. He says, fine, we'll go to

692
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: Red Lobster. How do we get reservations and we're like, no, no,

693
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: you don't make reservations allowed, right. Anyways, he calls ahead.

694
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: They're able to get the back private room and the

695
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: Times Square Red Lobster for us, and we go there.

696
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: We supposed to meet him there at like seven o'clock

697
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: at night to celebrate with the number two at the network.

698
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: The guys and I get there first and we're in

699
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: this back private room alone. The waiter comes in and

700
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: we said, you know what, since he's never been here before,

701
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: he has no idea what he's in for, what the

702
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: restaurant's like. So we said to the waiter, look, our friend,

703
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: our two friends about to join. We want to play

704
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: a little joke on him, but you can't tell him

705
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: it's a joke. It's only between us. We promised, go'll

706
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: be okay anytime we order anything on the menu at

707
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: Red Lobster, we want you to bring and charges for

708
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: three times the quantity of that item. So if we

709
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: order a pound of crab legs, we want you to

710
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: three pounds of less and so crab legs. Right, if

711
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: we order what have you like, multiply everything by three.

712
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: It comes. We all order. Lots of food comes out.

713
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: Keep in mind the President Network has no idea what

714
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: the quantity food is supposed to be a lobster. The

715
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: bill comes. Now there's six of us, none of us

716
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: are drinking. It's a business dinner. The bill comes, The

717
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: President Network unfolds the folio. The bill unfolds four times.

718
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: The bill was fourteen hundred dollars. Right, fourteen hundred dollars,

719
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: no liquor, just dinner. That's a lot of which is

720
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: a lot of money for Red Lobster. Right, he looks,

721
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: he's now he's in a situation where he doesn't want

722
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: to embarrass himself because he's never been there. He he

723
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, he's paying for the bill, but he's also

724
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: shocked at what the total was. Right, He's he's thinking

725
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: for lobsters, Jane restaurant's gonna be cheap. What happened, right,

726
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't understand, but he also doesn't want to scan

727
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: the bill and look like a Jackets. Right. Meanwhile, I'm

728
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: on the Red Lobster mailing list, so I have a

729
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: coupon in my back pocket for five dollars off of

730
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: the adult Obe. So I see the bill come out.

731
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: We're all crying, laughing, and unfold. I tick out the

732
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: five dollar coupon and I said, hey, Mark, just you

733
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: know what I do have a five dollars coup on.

734
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: He says, can I curse? Yeah? Okay, he says. He

735
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: looks at the coupon, who's five dollars? He goes, fuck

736
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: your coupon, and he cls up. He pays the bill.

737
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: We get in the subway to go back to my

738
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: old apartment. We are crying laughing. To this day, he

739
00:37:54,360 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: does not know that story. Sometimes the life man, you

740
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: gotta celebrate successes.

741
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: Well now you know, so, I don't know you're gonna tell.

742
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: He probably went back to alf though, or if somebody,

743
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: and he probably like, what the fuck was that?

744
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: It's just I just loved the idea that he had

745
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: to go into the you know, doing department of True

746
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: TV to explain how we spent fourteen hundred dollars at

747
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: a chain flopster nun.

748
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: But it wasn't I say, oh, I was talking about

749
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: talking about the things that pissed me off. But I

750
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: love that story.

751
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: The what I was gonna say, you know where I

752
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: get anxiety is like, so it's for the way to

753
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: come to the table, right, the six of us. He

754
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: doesn't pull out a pen, she doesn't pull up a pen, paper,

755
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: And I don't want to be the asshole and be like,

756
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: you're gonna forget shit?

757
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: Why you're not impressing me.

758
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: You're really not impressing me by doing it for memory

759
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: because I made have forgotten.

760
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: Because it's a new MANU. I haven't seen whatever the

761
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: case is?

762
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: Right?

763
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: Did I ask for the I don't know the whatever

764
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: the crab meats something on the thing or whatever, But

765
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: why will.

766
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: They not write it down and then when it comes

767
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: out it becomes out wrong?

768
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, now I gotta be an asshole, or do I

769
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: be an asshole to begin to say, hey, get a

770
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: goddamn pen because I don't want a lungy in my food,

771
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: right because now I'm talking to them like a child.

772
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: But it's a pen.

773
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: They got a lot of things or whatever it is,

774
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: or a chart. They got a lot of things going on.

775
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: You gotta take the you gotta take the meal. Or

776
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: from six people. One's the one dressing on the side.

777
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: One has a peanut allergy, and you gotta take the drink.

778
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: Orders you're texting your boyfriend, girlfriend's son, husband or wife,

779
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 2: and betwey, you gotta plug it into the computer.

780
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: The chef gotta push it out the right way. You

781
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: gotta get it wrong.

782
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: Time I want and now I have anxiety. I'm at

783
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 2: the table when it comes back wrong. I didn't ruin

784
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: or right, but I can't say nothing. Everybody is at

785
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: the table.

786
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: I want to be a dick. I want to be

787
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: a dick. You know, do you have any instances where

788
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: you're just like, here we go. You know, well they

789
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: lead the weapon when he said in the drive through,

790
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: they like this. It's the thing with me.

791
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: Do you do you have to have anything like that

792
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: where all of a sudden you're no longer the lovable

793
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: guy that they know from TV and stage.

794
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: I know, man, I keep all that in check. You know,

795
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: we've been on TV so long. I mean I'm in

796
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: control of my emotions at most almost always. But I

797
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: know what you're saying about the waiter thing. I think

798
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: everyone gets anxious when the waiter does not take out

799
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: a peny baby.

800
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: But the way they do it now, it's.

801
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Almost like they want to brow I don't know where

802
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: it comes from. I guess they want to browse.

803
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: Jimes.

804
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: If you ever seen that, you get everything the way

805
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: you wanted and you're like this at dinner, man, did

806
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: you notice they didn't even have a pan?

807
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm so impressed. I'm gonna come back.

808
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: There only one guy I know that can do that

809
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: every time. There's a great restaurant in New Orleans called

810
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: Antoine's and the guy who works there, he's third generation

811
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: waiter there and he he was literally, I think a

812
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: few years ago, voted best waiter in America and he

813
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: nails it every time. Man, I.

814
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Maybe they're all going for best Waiter in America, but.

815
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: It could be a nationwide competition. You're we're just a

816
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: privy to it and they're just trying. That's how they

817
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: get nominated. I don't know.

818
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. Well, you and I

819
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: need to create a new competition called best Handwriting for

820
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: waiters to take fucking notes.

821
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: Dude, I can't. I can barely remember my niece's name,

822
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: much less of twelve people at the table's menu. What

823
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: are you.

824
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: Excited about now?

825
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Though?

826
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: With everything you got going on? You know, the one

827
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: like your books, children's book, various of the books, what

828
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: are you more excited about it? You looked at yourself

829
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: because you very clearly are grateful for the opportunity you've had.

830
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: The way people are absorbing information, I mean.

831
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: The best thing about you is you have so many

832
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: tracks where they can absorb what you have in different ways.

833
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: But what are you excited about well, the next twenty years?

834
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: Wow? Good question, twenty years. I'm a serial entrepreneur, you know,

835
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: Like what I love to do is create ideas and

836
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: sell them, right. So that's why I did well in

837
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: TV development in practical jokers's constant simulation. Creating new tour

838
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: is constant simulation. And then I just keep cranking out

839
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: ideas for books and thrillers. But the books are only

840
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: one part of the process. For me. What's exciting is

841
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: selling the ip as TV shows or movies.

842
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: Right.

843
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: So our children's books were out there. We sold the

844
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: TV rights to a great company called Non Story Writing.

845
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: These Uh, the live action script script right now, don't

846
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: move my thriller.

847
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

848
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: We are pitching as a movie right now. Uh, we

849
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: wrote the screenplay for it. My my goal, my love,

850
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: my first love is to pitch and sell.

851
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: You know.

852
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: I love creating new projects and selling them. So with

853
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: that in mind, I uh just created a new tech

854
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: company that will be launching next year. I created a

855
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: new Amazon company.

856
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: No, okay, you'll be launching. Okay. I want to make

857
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: sure that anything you do when we know about it.

858
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you'll hear about it soon enough. I I

859
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: cracked a big problem that uh, that every that everyone's

860
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: been trying to figure out for a long time. No

861
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: one's been able to figure out how to make VR

862
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: a necessity, you know, need it, you know.

863
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

864
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: And I cracked that. I cracked how to make VR

865
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: necessity or AR necessity for people, not just a curiosity. Uh.

866
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: That's one. And then I'm launching a new Uh. You know,

867
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm passionate about telling shit, you know, I just love

868
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: doing it. So we have two more books coming out

869
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: next year, lots more ideas. I'm also passionate about creating

870
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: a I want to create a horror movie. Studio like

871
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: a Blumhouse type of thing, like a Blumhouse exactly right.

872
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: You know, I've got so many great thriller ideas, of

873
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: which I sell most of them as books and then

874
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: develop them as TV shows and movies. But I'm going

875
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: to go out pitching a this fall, a a scripted series,

876
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: horror series written by me and the guys, And I

877
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: of course pitched lots of TV shows. We develop lots

878
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: of everything all across. You know, we have a first

879
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: look with Warner Warner Discovery, and we're just cranking out

880
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: ada after idea. That's my you know. So you know,

881
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: we do like five pitch meetings a week on different

882
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: ideas that we're developing or have you know shepherded. I

883
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: love that, man. I love the the hunt and the

884
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: pitch and the cell, the cell.

885
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: What is it? Do you think? Because I'm really asking

886
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 3: a really important question to me, why would people pay

887
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: to get this shit scared out of them? Or to

888
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: think about people.

889
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 2: Like carry the Omen or like Freddy Krugel is funny,

890
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: but why do people pay to get this shit scared

891
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: out of them? And for them to have just bad

892
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they're bad memories of me? Maybe maybe this

893
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: is now my couch with the shrink. Why do people

894
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: pay for that? And why do sick people like you

895
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: create those things?

896
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling me sick. I agree, uh, you know,

897
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: because I think it makes us feel alive, you know,

898
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: you know when you want it.

899
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: In seven and seven, when Brad Pitt's going, what's that

900
00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 2: the box?

901
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: That doesn't make me feel alive?

902
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: It's great, you know.

903
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: I did not feel alive about thinking in the future

904
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: somebody will come in decapitate my wife and put her

905
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: head in a box.

906
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: I didn't feel alive about that.

907
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: Feel nothing alive about a little kid's head twisting around,

908
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: you know in the omen and definitely not Damian, I

909
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: love you's gonna be jumping off a roof and splattering.

910
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: I'm trying to understand where the alive is in that.

911
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: Unless you're a serial killer, please explain it to me.

912
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: How you feel alive?

913
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: I think I think we're addicted to the adrenaline rush, honestly,

914
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: whether that be or the endorphins, whatever gets released in

915
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: your body when you're laughing hysterically like watching in practical Jokers,

916
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: or screaming or shaking or hugging your loved one or

917
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: what have you. It's the adrenaline rush or the endorphin rush,

918
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: whatever it is, is addictive, and I think I think

919
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: we just keep going back for it, you know it.

920
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: If you want to do that, you can always move

921
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: this thus Jamaica Queens, and I promise you where I

922
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: came from, you're.

923
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: Indoorphins will be going all night every night.

924
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's you know, basically, I'm gonna base my

925
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: horror studio out of you know, Jamaica Queens. You're just

926
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna go right there. That's what the best best material because.

927
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: There people used to do there and somebody goes, hey, yo, man,

928
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 2: give me all that ship in the studio.

929
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: You'ven like, Wow, this is really working. I'm really excited.

930
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: That's what's gonna happen.

931
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: It's just the adrenaline. It's hitting real strong right now.

932
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: I got it.

933
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: I think I just love coming with ideas that make

934
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: you think and scared the ship at you or make

935
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: you laugh hysterically. It's all flip side of the same coin,

936
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

937
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to hopefully open up some of that

938
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: genius in you and to understand a little bit about

939
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: the things that you know, it's those moments that we're

940
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: talking about. The moment that you are and that you

941
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: reflect on this of an hundred square put apartment with

942
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: three people at an office, or you know, the moment

943
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: that you know you decided that this is going to

944
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: be you know, your career and or you know the

945
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: moment that you just realized, Man, you work really hard

946
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: for it, but at the end of the day, your

947
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: job never stops.

948
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: I think so many people don't realize that.

949
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: You know.

950
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban told me one day that he's like, you know,

951
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: when I bought the team, I was young and I

952
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: had a lot of money and I bought the team

953
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, cool, you know, I'm by the team.

954
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: And then I was cursed at the rest and I was,

955
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: you know, doing all this because you know, man, I

956
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: own a team. And then yeah, he said, all these

957
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: writers are writing about me.

958
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: And then he said I was like, I don't care.

959
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: This is he said, this is where I got my

960
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 2: initial you know, reputation, the crazy guy. And then somebody

961
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: said to him, you know, no matter what economic uh

962
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: you know, financial status you have and.

963
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: You know in Dallas or around the world, you know.

964
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: There are children watching that team and wanting and there's

965
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: a glimpse of hope for them, whether it is the

966
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: team sports, the individual players. They wear mads across their

967
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: chest with their hats, and then when they're watching them

968
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: on TV and you're tainting some of their dreams, you're

969
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: more of a politician. You have a community behind it.

970
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: You have to understand that's the responsibility. You buying a

971
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: team was the biggest responsibility ever. And people gonna look

972
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: at you way after the court or the game is over.

973
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: You're a politician. He realized at that moment that, as

974
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: you said, I've never heard really being said like that

975
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: is your performance is off camera as well, and people

976
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: are investing in And I really think that so many people,

977
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: whether they're representing their family, a business, a company, and

978
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: the individuals they need to think about, their performance is

979
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: always on whatever that deems to be.

980
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: I agree. Well, I just got back from doing a

981
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: comic con this weekend, and that's where it's overwhelming. You know,

982
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: you asked about like breaking points because you're meeting thousands

983
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: of fans over the course of ten hours, and then

984
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: you can't you walking back to your hotel room and

985
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: more people are coming up, and then more people and

986
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: everyone's coming up. It's just a constant. You have to

987
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: be constantly on for fourteen hours, and it can be

988
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: it takes a certain reserve of energy. You have to

989
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: dig so deep to keep going because you can't lose it.

990
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: But I love it. I love the adrenaline of it.

991
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: I think I'm an adrenaline junkie when it comes to that.

992
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: I love seeing how far I can push myself to,

993
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, and still give people the experience they have

994
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: come to hopeful they it's what they hope for, right

995
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: most people what they do for a living. I did

996
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: for most my entire life. I hated what I did,

997
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, until I got into TV development that I

998
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: started to love what I did. And now I definitely

999
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: love what I did. But my first you know, twelve

1000
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: years out of college, I freaking hated my jobs and

1001
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, hated the community. And if that's me, that's everyone.

1002
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: Everyone is like.

1003
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: They just need that. They're hoping for that little laugh, smile,

1004
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: better feeling from you, and it's my responsibility to give

1005
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: it to them. And whether they're hoping when they read

1006
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: one of them books to scream a little bit they're

1007
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: hoping to laugh when they watch a TV show. They're

1008
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: hoping for just a break from what is going on

1009
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: in their life. And I feel a personal responsibility for that,

1010
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: just like and if I got to push through my

1011
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: own shit to give them that, I will because I

1012
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: can do it.

1013
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: I have it in me to do it.

1014
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1015
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta tell you, man, and thank you man.

1016
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: This moment you're is such a powerful person that people don't.

1017
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: You know, I may give people, you know, I hope that,

1018
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, earlier on in life, people of ownership and

1019
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: a feeling of pride in a community. Then hopefully I've

1020
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: given them ways to empower themselves. But you know, when

1021
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: somebody comes to your show, they may be on their

1022
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: first date, they may be celebrating their daughter's eighteenth birthday

1023
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: or whatever the case is, and for that moment, you

1024
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: you allow them to forget about life. Right.

1025
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that if people there are on their

1026
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: first date, our show is funny enough that they get

1027
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: laid afterward.

1028
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1029
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: If I can just get a single fan laid, my

1030
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: job is done.

1031
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: That That's what I'm That's what I'm talking about.

1032
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: And that little moment that you share with them to

1033
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: begin about the rest of the world is so so

1034
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: goddamn powerful man that I appreciate what you've done, and

1035
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: I appreciate all those moments you share with us, man,

1036
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: And you know what, I agree with everything you say,

1037
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: except for the fear factor, because you know, listen when

1038
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: I when I go to Gold and Corral and its

1039
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: it's ten o'clock and they got the doors closed and

1040
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: I'm scared to death.

1041
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: That's not fun for me. But other than that, man,

1042
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: I really appreciate the time that you spelled with us. Man.

1043
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing that moment with us.

1044
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: It's been great meeting you, buddy. I hope to meet

1045
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: in person soon and keep on entertaining us. Love it.

1046
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: You got a brother, bee take it for.

1047
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: That moment with Damon John is a production of the

1048
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from the Black

1049
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: Effect Podcast Network, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

1050
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: wherever you listen to your favorite show and don't forget

1051
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: to subscribe to and rate the show. And of course

1052
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: you can all connect with me on any of my

1053
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: social media platforms.

1054
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Speaker 3: At the Shark.

1055
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Speaker 2: Damon spelled like Raymond, but what a d