WEBVTT - Tech News: Meta Gets Connect-ed

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland, Diamond Executive producer with I Heart Radio, and

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<v Speaker 1>how the tech are you. It's time for the tech

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<v Speaker 1>news for Tuesday, October eleventh, two thousand twenty two. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to it. Today, Meta will hold its Connect conference,

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<v Speaker 1>and folks are expecting that Mark Zuckerberg will give an

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<v Speaker 1>update as to the whole journey to the Metaverse thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of that will be unveiling of the high

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<v Speaker 1>end VR a gear that has been called Project Cambria

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<v Speaker 1>internally anyway, we expect it will probably be called something

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<v Speaker 1>else when it's released. The going bet now as it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the Quest pro By the time you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, you might very well know that already, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording this before the conference happens. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what features this new VR device is going to have,

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<v Speaker 1>but the guess is that it's going to have higher

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<v Speaker 1>resolution experiences. It's gonna incorporate eye tracking that can go

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<v Speaker 1>from interesting to creepy real quick, and it might have

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<v Speaker 1>some other mixed reality features built into it, as in, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got augmented reality and my virtual reality. Hey you

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<v Speaker 1>got virtual reality and my augmented reality? Say that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Anyway, we don't know the details, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how expensive this thing is going to be. But

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<v Speaker 1>since Meta not too long ago hiked the price of

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<v Speaker 1>the two quest two models, there's a base model in

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly better model, those prices went up by a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars each. They currently cost three and four nine, respectively.

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<v Speaker 1>And my guess is that Project Cambria will be fairly expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Considering that Meta has had a really bad year this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine and that they're going to try and

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<v Speaker 1>sell this at a massive loss. The company has been

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with scandals, it's seen a decline in its user base.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been trying in largely failing, to fight off TikTok's

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to younger users. It's been reeling from Apple's move

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<v Speaker 1>to give iOS users the ability to cut off app tracking,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really hurt their advertising model. Uh. It's seen

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<v Speaker 1>at stock price go down over the year by more

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<v Speaker 1>than sixty percent, like more than a hundred dollars per share.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure there are a lot of folks over

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<v Speaker 1>at Meta who feel the company really needs a win,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe that's what we'll get later today. The conference

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<v Speaker 1>begins at one pm Eastern. As I'm recording this, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour away, so I'm sure I'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more to talk about on Thursday's episode. The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times published an article titled quote, Skepticism, Confusion, Frustration

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<v Speaker 1>inside Mark Zuckerberg's Metaverse struggles end quote, and this piece

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<v Speaker 1>had some light on how folks inside the company are

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated and confused by Zuckerberg's push toward all things metaverse.

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<v Speaker 1>The Times quotes several folks, many of them unnamed because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to put their jobs at risk, which

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<v Speaker 1>is totally understandable. One investor that the Times quoted was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Matthew Ball, who I think rightfully pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out that while Zuckerberg is focusing on the metaverse, the

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<v Speaker 1>problems that Meta is facing right now are not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>directly metaverse related. Apart from the fact that the company

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<v Speaker 1>is investing billions into something that's still many years away.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Ball's point is that Zuckerberg is failing

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<v Speaker 1>to address the real world problems that Meta has encountered

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Which means not only is Zuckerberg looking at

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<v Speaker 1>something that doesn't fix the issues that the company currently faces,

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<v Speaker 1>those issues are also getting worse because the attention is

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<v Speaker 1>on this metaverse stuff. The piece also rewards the several

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<v Speaker 1>employees and Meta are frustrated with Zuckerberg changing his mind

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<v Speaker 1>about projects and rapidly demanding changes. They say that the

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<v Speaker 1>most important project is m MH, which is make Mark happy. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole approach disrupts processes and makes them really failed

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<v Speaker 1>to make a lot of progress. The piece also mentions

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<v Speaker 1>that Zuckerberg has been urging Meta teams to hold virtual

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<v Speaker 1>meetings within the company's Horizon Workrooms app and that was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge inconvenience for a lot of employees because they

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<v Speaker 1>had not purchased a VR headset or had one set up,

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<v Speaker 1>so it sent lots of folks scrambling in order to

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<v Speaker 1>catch up. Also, by the way, just on a side note, yuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if my boss told me that I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to buy a four hundred or five dollar piece

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<v Speaker 1>of equipment just so that I could attend work meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be pretty angry about that. Hopefully those employees will

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<v Speaker 1>get reimbursed for having to purchase VR equipment just to

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<v Speaker 1>attend meetings or something. The Times piece also says that

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<v Speaker 1>and Helnal poll of Meta of one thousand employees revealed

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<v Speaker 1>that less than sixty of them felt they really understood

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<v Speaker 1>the company's metaverse strategy. So still more than half say

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<v Speaker 1>they understand it, but like more than say I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really get it now the very least I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that reveals a problem with internal communications. It's very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to be a trailblazer if the folks on your team

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand where they're trying to go to. Again, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the conference later today will indicate that the company has

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<v Speaker 1>addressed some of these issues. Will have to wait and see,

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<v Speaker 1>or you won't. You probably have already heard about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pop on over to YouTube next. The platform is

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<v Speaker 1>making yet another change when it comes to users and

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<v Speaker 1>their accounts. YouTube sent out emails to YouTube account holders

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<v Speaker 1>and released an announcement that says the platform will soon

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<v Speaker 1>switch to at name style handles, much like other social

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<v Speaker 1>platforms like Twitter. So users who will have a channel,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be able to secure a unique handle that applies

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<v Speaker 1>across the platform. So this handle feature will allow users

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<v Speaker 1>to mention others and stuff like video titles and comments.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you decided to do a YouTube video

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<v Speaker 1>about how awesome I am. You could tag me in

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<v Speaker 1>the title of your video, and I would be aware

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<v Speaker 1>that it existed, and because you're appealing to my ego,

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<v Speaker 1>I would likely promote that video because I want people

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<v Speaker 1>to know how awesome I am. Now, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>you should do this, by the way, Specifically, don't do

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<v Speaker 1>this with me because my social reach is pathetically small

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm almost never on social these days, so it

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<v Speaker 1>won't do you any good. But if you try it

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<v Speaker 1>with folks who have a large, active following, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it could work. Maybe you just irritate them. You

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know. Anyway, the apt feature can be useful

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<v Speaker 1>for community engagement, though it can also be irritating as

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<v Speaker 1>heck if it's misused, but that is the way of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I find this change interesting but because back when Google

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<v Speaker 1>Plus was still a thing, Google was really pushing to

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<v Speaker 1>require everyone to use their real legal name across Google platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>and that included Google Plus and YouTube. So this motivation

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<v Speaker 1>for this push came from a relatively good place, like

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just that they wanted to force you to

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<v Speaker 1>use your real name. The idea was that if you

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<v Speaker 1>hold people accountable by making them use their real names,

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<v Speaker 1>then they're going to be more careful about the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>they say online and you would see a big decrease

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<v Speaker 1>in stuff like abuse and trolling. But it was very

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<v Speaker 1>clear that the company had not considered a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other issues that come along with forcing people to use

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<v Speaker 1>their real names. Here's a relatively benign example. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of popular YouTube personalities who are known by

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of stage name or a handle, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you forced them to change to their real name, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of messes with branding. It also poses as a

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<v Speaker 1>potential privacy and security risk. Anyway, YouTube, throughout their history

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<v Speaker 1>has really followed a rocky course when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>how we identify users and channels on the site. They've

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<v Speaker 1>gone back and forth between being able to use handles

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<v Speaker 1>being able to use real names. Um, and these new

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<v Speaker 1>handles aren't actually going to rename anything. Instead, in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>it will make it easier to interact with other users

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<v Speaker 1>on the platform because you can tag them. Securing handles

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it's going to be a first come, first

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<v Speaker 1>served approach. Once it opens up. But YouTube is also

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<v Speaker 1>going to reach out to some channels in advance to

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<v Speaker 1>give them the opportunity to secure their handle before the

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<v Speaker 1>general public can rush in and grab them up. Which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. You don't want, uh, someone rushing in to

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<v Speaker 1>grab Jack septic I before Sean gets a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I call him Sean even though I've never

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<v Speaker 1>talked to him and he doesn't know who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that's an example, right, You wouldn't want someone

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<v Speaker 1>to to do the equivalent of website squatting or U

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<v Speaker 1>r L squatting on these handles. So those channels are

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the first chance to do it. UH

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the criteria is going to be for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume it's going to be like the check marked

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<v Speaker 1>folks first and then maybe opened up to others after that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to see. This past weekend was twitch Con,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an in person convention relating to Twitch streamers

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<v Speaker 1>and their fan bases. I got a couple of different

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<v Speaker 1>things to say about this. One is that Twitch has

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<v Speaker 1>been in the hot seat of criticism from creators recently,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily because of the company's revenue strategy. There have been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times where streamers have criticized Twitch for

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<v Speaker 1>lots of different things. For example, for uh somewhat vague

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<v Speaker 1>and uneven application of content standards, where some people say

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<v Speaker 1>it appears that certain folks get a past for publishing

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<v Speaker 1>content that other folks get reprimanded for. That's one example.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one that has been and in the focus

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<v Speaker 1>more recently has to do with revenue split. So until

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<v Speaker 1>very recently, Twitch had a revenue split for almost all

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<v Speaker 1>Twitch streamers. That was that means that streamers would get

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<v Speaker 1>fifty of revenue coming from subscriptions and Twitch would get

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<v Speaker 1>the rest. There are other ways that Twitch makes revenue

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<v Speaker 1>from these things, and that streamers make revenue from these

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<v Speaker 1>things as well, but that's really kind of the focus. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Certain streamers who were kind of viewed as top performers

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<v Speaker 1>and thus likely to attract more people to joining Twitch,

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<v Speaker 1>they got a special treatment. They got a seventy thirty split,

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<v Speaker 1>so Twitch would only take thirty percent of their revenue

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<v Speaker 1>and the streamer would get to keep seventy. But that

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<v Speaker 1>was like this small elite group, and that's actually much

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the kind of revenue new split strategies we

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<v Speaker 1>see in other online platforms. But late last month, Twitch

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<v Speaker 1>said that any remaining seventy streamers out there will also

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<v Speaker 1>get switched to a fifty fifty arrangement once they earn

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars as a threshold. And for those elite streamers,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a big setback. Going from a

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<v Speaker 1>take to take is tough, and while we have yet

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<v Speaker 1>to see how this is all going to play out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's safe to say there are some Twitch streamers upset

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<v Speaker 1>with this change. Now, maybe they'll try and offset it

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<v Speaker 1>by incorporating more advertising in their streams, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>have more ads, then you generate more revenues, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can make up for the fact that you are getting

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller cut of the revenue you generate by putting

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<v Speaker 1>in more ads. But if you put in more ads,

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<v Speaker 1>then you might push away Twitch viewers. They might get

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<v Speaker 1>fed up with how many ads there are compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of content they're getting. But anyway, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about twitch Con, particularly because the big story coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of twitch Con isn't about twitches policies had to do

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<v Speaker 1>with some really unfortunate injuries that were incurred by let's

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<v Speaker 1>call them enthusiastic streamers who leapt into a a foam pit,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, a pit that had foam blocks, like the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blocks he would use for packing material, right,

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<v Speaker 1>those dark like charcoal gray foam blocks, that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing um And that pit proved to be far too shallow,

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<v Speaker 1>and since this was all done in a venue with

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<v Speaker 1>concrete floor, and then that some folks got hurt, a

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<v Speaker 1>few of them seriously injured. One of those was streamer

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<v Speaker 1>Adriana Chichick, who, after landing in the pit, said she

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<v Speaker 1>was unable to get up and she ultimately got some

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<v Speaker 1>medical attention, and she has since said that she broke

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<v Speaker 1>her back in two places and is going to undergo

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<v Speaker 1>surgery to insert a metal rod into her spine to

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<v Speaker 1>correct for the damage. The foam pit was part of

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<v Speaker 1>an American Gladiator's type attraction. It was sponsored by Lenovo

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<v Speaker 1>and Intel, and it was subsequently shut down after numerous injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>And on a personal note, I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope the various folks who got injured in that

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<v Speaker 1>pit have a swift recovery. And to all those websites

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<v Speaker 1>out there that used animated gifts to show the moments

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<v Speaker 1>where folks got injured. Gross next time, just make it

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<v Speaker 1>a playable video. I did not want to actually see

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<v Speaker 1>people get hurt. Um that kind of stinks, And I

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<v Speaker 1>really hope that the hurt people get well soon. That's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the most important part. All right, speaking of advertising,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got some more news items. You know. I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on this show about how remote work has

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<v Speaker 1>really changed things for employees, how they are reluctant to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to working in the office, which is totally understandable. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are able to do your job effectively at home,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of good reasons to do it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. Right, you're not driving all the time or

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise commuting, you know, you you can really be efficient,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can stay in the comfort of your home.

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<v Speaker 1>You can help look after your family. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good reasons. But I've also talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>some companies and managers are not crazy about remote work,

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<v Speaker 1>partly because it makes it harder to monitor employees. It's

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<v Speaker 1>weird because, like every study you see about this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff shows how that approach demoralizes employees, which ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>means you hurt the bottom line. Employees don't do as

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<v Speaker 1>good a job if they're not happy. And yet we

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<v Speaker 1>still see this happening like like it's it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher having to watch over a classroom to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>no one's cheating during a pop quiz. You don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>great if you feel like your boss is treating you

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<v Speaker 1>like a misbehaving child. Anyway, there's one recent story that

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<v Speaker 1>really caught my eye that kind of turned things around

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<v Speaker 1>on a company that was doing the sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>A Florida based company called chett To hired a remote telemarketer.

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<v Speaker 1>This telemarketer was based in the Netherlands. Now, according to

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<v Speaker 1>a subsequent lawsuit that the telemarketer brought against chet Do,

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<v Speaker 1>the company managers ordered him to activate his webcam and

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it on throughout the entirety of his work day.

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<v Speaker 1>They also demanded that he screen share his screen the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time, and the telemarketer politely declined to acquiesce to

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<v Speaker 1>the company's request, and chatt To then fired this telemarketer.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he sued the company, And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is based in the Netherlands. So a Dutch

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<v Speaker 1>court took up the case, and y'all, we don't treat

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<v Speaker 1>things like privacy that seriously here in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>but they sure as heck do in Europe and the

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<v Speaker 1>Netherlands in particular. So the court found that the company

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<v Speaker 1>was being unreasonable and that the company demands on the

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<v Speaker 1>employee were quote in conflict with the respect for the

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<v Speaker 1>privacy of the workers end quote which it would be

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to agree to argue against. Rather, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that the company far overstepped the boundaries that an employer

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<v Speaker 1>has when it comes to its employees. So this Dutch

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<v Speaker 1>court found in favor of the telemarketer. They said this

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<v Speaker 1>was a case of unfair dismissal, and as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>the court has ordered Chett to to pay the telemarketers

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<v Speaker 1>court costs, to pay his back wages, to pay a

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<v Speaker 1>fine of fifty thou dollars, and it has to drop

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<v Speaker 1>the non compete clause from the telemarketers employment agreement. And

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<v Speaker 1>whether any of this happens or not, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Chetto did not show up for the court case. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not shocked, but I imagine this will at least

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<v Speaker 1>make companies a little less eager to hire telemarketers in

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands right or teleworkers in general. As well as

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<v Speaker 1>other places that are like in the EU, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>where you have governed moments and regulatory agencies that take

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like privacy seriously. And uh, honestly, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the requirement of having the webcam turned on was unreasonable

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<v Speaker 1>from the get go. I think it's unreasonable for any

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<v Speaker 1>company to demand that, at least as a general rule.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's unreasonable. So hopefully we see stories like

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<v Speaker 1>this that convinced companies not to follow those kinds of tactics. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it might take a while for that to really filter

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<v Speaker 1>through to all the different companies in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, we're in a country that does not traditionally

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<v Speaker 1>value or protect privacy to any great extent. Yesterday, CNN

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<v Speaker 1>decided to sunset its Vault project. So this was an

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<v Speaker 1>n f T initiative that CNN launched last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>and the news company was minting n f T s

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<v Speaker 1>that were tied to real world events and headline So

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<v Speaker 1>the pitch that CNN gave to investors was that you

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<v Speaker 1>could purchase an n f T and own a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of history. You could own a headline, a moment of

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<v Speaker 1>newsworthy activity, which I find absolutely laughable. I find it

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<v Speaker 1>ludicrous because really, what you end up owning is a

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<v Speaker 1>digital token that at least in theory, represents this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just a digital token. It's a token that

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<v Speaker 1>can be traded or sold on a digital marketplace. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like you actually own a moment, like like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say there's a moment where celebrity, a totally disked

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity be at a public event or whatever, and you're like, done,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to own that. I need to own the

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<v Speaker 1>moment where Harry Styles spit on Crisp Pine or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was, And so you buy an n f T

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<v Speaker 1>that represents that headline. You don't actually own anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than a token. Anyway, None of that stopped people from

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<v Speaker 1>buying n f t s because, as we have established

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<v Speaker 1>another episodes, n f t s, especially early on, we're

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<v Speaker 1>really seen as a potential cash grab, both for the

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<v Speaker 1>markets that were minting n f t s and for

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<v Speaker 1>the people who were buying them. It was like a

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<v Speaker 1>speculative market, and you can think of it as like

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<v Speaker 1>a long shot bet. You might think, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>each individual n f T is not that expensive, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty bucks or something for the cheap ones that's

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<v Speaker 1>not terrible. And if it turns out that this one

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna end up being a seven digit item on

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<v Speaker 1>a marketplace, then I'm gonna make a huge profit from

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<v Speaker 1>a small investment. Of course, I'm gonna be tempted to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But since those days, obviously the crypto market

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<v Speaker 1>has taken a real dive across multiple blockchains. We have

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<v Speaker 1>seen cryptocurrencies and an n f T values plummet and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>More and more people have expressed skeptic skepticism or just

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<v Speaker 1>outright dismissal of n f T s, and some folks

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<v Speaker 1>who were invested in the vault are now talking about

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<v Speaker 1>talking with lawyers potentially bringing lawsuits against CNN and accusing

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<v Speaker 1>the company of pulling the rug out from investors a

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<v Speaker 1>so called rug poll. So rug pull is when someone

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<v Speaker 1>sets up a project and gets investors involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>project and then subsequently cancels the project and then runs

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<v Speaker 1>off with the cash. That's a rug pole right where

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<v Speaker 1>you've set up the scheme where you can convince a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people to pour money in early on, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you take the money and run. Well. CNN has

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<v Speaker 1>said that's not the case, and it's planning to compensate

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<v Speaker 1>investors by paying out the purchase price of n f

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<v Speaker 1>T s that investors were holding as captured on October six.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you bought an n f T like a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago, you don't get the value of the n

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<v Speaker 1>f T that you paid for at the point of purchase.

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<v Speaker 1>You you get whatever it was worth on October six

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<v Speaker 1>of this year. So CNN estimates that means folks are

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<v Speaker 1>going to recapture around twenty of what they invested in because,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned earlier, crypto had a really bad time

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<v Speaker 1>of it this year, and the value of stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>n f T s has taken a nose dive. It

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<v Speaker 1>also gets worse. Marketplaces have processing fees, so if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to extract your money from an investment on these marketplaces,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pay a processing fee in in as

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<v Speaker 1>part of that. Well, the marketplace that CNN used was

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<v Speaker 1>connected to the Flow blockchain, and the Flow blockchain has

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<v Speaker 1>a four dollar processing fee for transactions. So let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you bought one n f T from CNN. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>it was a twenty n f T. We You're only

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get of that value back, right, That's all you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get. So one fifth of what you paid and

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<v Speaker 1>you paid twenty bucks, well, one fifth means you would

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<v Speaker 1>get four dollars back, but you also have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>a processing fee if you want to withdraw your money

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<v Speaker 1>from the marketplace. That processing fee is also four dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which means you get nothing. You get no money back

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<v Speaker 1>because of the reduction in the purchase price and that

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<v Speaker 1>processing fee on top of it. This is another reason

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<v Speaker 1>why lots of critics of n f T s pointed

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<v Speaker 1>in f T s as being dangerous and not a

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<v Speaker 1>good investment, because on top of everything else, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>these processing fees that eat into any profit you might make,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are not guaranteed by any stretch of the imagination,

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<v Speaker 1>to make a profit in the first place. So it

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<v Speaker 1>may mean that you get even less back out if

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<v Speaker 1>you decide that you don't want to be invested in

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<v Speaker 1>the market anymore. Last week, six robotics companies, including Boston Dynamics,

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<v Speaker 1>signed a pledge stating that these companies are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to develop robots that can harm humans, and the company

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<v Speaker 1>has also urged other robotics companies to follow suit. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of talk about robotics and how

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<v Speaker 1>they could be put to military use. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>early ones, including at Boston Dynamics, were talked about as

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a load bearing device that could help carry

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<v Speaker 1>heavier equipment in the field for military, so kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a mule that it would be carrying this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily weaponized itself, but it might carry weapons that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other soldiers can can take off of it

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<v Speaker 1>and use. But there's also been conversations about weaponized platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>whether paired with a human operator who works remotely to

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<v Speaker 1>actually fire the weapons, or even and autonomous system that

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<v Speaker 1>would have stuff like image recognition capabilities that would be

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<v Speaker 1>capable of engaging in combat. So you could have a

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<v Speaker 1>combat ready weaponized robotics platform. And that thought is really scary,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly because we know that computer vision isn't even close

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<v Speaker 1>to perfect. You know, we've seen so many stories of

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<v Speaker 1>computer systems misidentifying people or having a bias against specific

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<v Speaker 1>populations because the computer models themselves are faulty. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that over and over again. Now imagine such an imperfect

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<v Speaker 1>system armed with a gun, so that not only is

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<v Speaker 1>this a deadly weapon, it's one that could misidentify targets. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it could identify something as a target that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>target at all, and that leads to tragedy. Also, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a fear that if you have robot soldiers that is

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<v Speaker 1>what it really amounts to, that you would be less

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<v Speaker 1>reluctant to engage in combat because obviously you're not putting

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<v Speaker 1>people your people in harm's way, you're using equipment. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fear that this could lead to increased aggression

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. It's a very sobering idea. So these

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<v Speaker 1>companies stressed that their robotic platforms it have significant positive

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<v Speaker 1>use cases, like they could really help contribute to lots

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<v Speaker 1>of human endeavors. But if robotics companies agree to weaponize

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<v Speaker 1>their platforms, that will in turn undermine any efforts to

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<v Speaker 1>make robots for peaceful applications because it erodes trust and

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<v Speaker 1>it encourages fear. So people will be less likely to

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<v Speaker 1>invest in robotics companies that could be making stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>could really make positive changes in peaceful ways because there

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<v Speaker 1>are these other companies that are making kill bots. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really on the same page as these companies. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that this is the responsible thing to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the right thing to do. But whether we

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<v Speaker 1>see this spread throughout the entire robotics industry or not,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. Russian speaking hackers have managed to

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<v Speaker 1>take down more than a dozen airport websites yesterday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>including the site for my home airport, Atlanta's Hertsfield Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>Internet National Airport. Now, the hackers appear to be aligned

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<v Speaker 1>with the Russian government, meaning their motivations appear to be

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<v Speaker 1>based off what the Russian government is doing, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>unknown whether or not they have any sort of state

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor relationship with the government, and maybe that they're acting

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<v Speaker 1>completely independently. In that case, they would be acting more

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<v Speaker 1>like anonymous does. It could be a loose group of

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<v Speaker 1>hackers that choose their own targets and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any actual connection with any authority, figure, or agency or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. So no one's going so far as

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<v Speaker 1>to say that Putin, for example, ordered hackers to take

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<v Speaker 1>down airport web pages, and I'm guessing that that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case. I don't think Putin would have done that

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<v Speaker 1>simply because it's not an effective way to really disrupt things.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the airport websites that were affected had no

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<v Speaker 1>impact on actual travel whatsoever. Which isn't a surprise. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have ever pulled up the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Airports website. Instead, I rely upon whichever air carrier i'm using.

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<v Speaker 1>I use their web page or their app. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>go to the airport's web page itself. So this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it was, you know, barely an inconvenience in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the sites were back up by late mornings.

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<v Speaker 1>That really shows that it wasn't a very effective attack.

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 1>It's just a temporary disruption. The hackers reportedly used a

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>di DOS, or distributed denial of service attack on these sites.

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Those tend to be fairly superficial sorts of attacks that

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<v Speaker 1>can be effective, um, particularly if you have your website

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>hosted on a service that doesn't have good di DOS

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>protection on it. But it's it's a temporary effect. It's

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>not like something more insidious like breaching a system. It's

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>nothing like that. It's just really shutting down on traffic

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to that website temporarily. So I'll be chatting more about

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<v Speaker 1>de DOS attacks a little bit later this week. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a preview. I've talked about them before, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>an idea for a themed set of episodes, so that

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<v Speaker 1>will be coming a little bit later. Also coming later

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<v Speaker 1>will be another couple of news stories, but before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, let's take another quick break. Delta Airlines

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<v Speaker 1>has pledged to invest sixty million dollars in startup job

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>By Aviation, which is in the electric air taxi business.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>That's going a pretty far away. It's not really a

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<v Speaker 1>business yet, but that's what they're developing. Is is electric

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>air taxis. Delta also said that should the project hit

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<v Speaker 1>certain milestones uh in in a certain amount of time,

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the company might up that investment as high as two

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<v Speaker 1>hund million dollars. Job has created an electric vehicle takeoff

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<v Speaker 1>and landing vehicles that this v tall vehicles v t

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<v Speaker 1>o L or e v O t L in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>because they are electric. They look like really large drones,

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>like like kind of like quad copter drones, but they're

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>big enough to hold people and luggage in them. The

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<v Speaker 1>model mentioned in Andrew Jay Hawkins article about this, which

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>was published on The Verge can hold up to five

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<v Speaker 1>people and the idea is to create a home to

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<v Speaker 1>airports service. But I maintain that's actually a misleading phrase

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<v Speaker 1>because these e v O t L vehicles are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need a lot of clear space in order to land

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and take off from them. I mean they're still gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do this vertically, so not as much

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>space as like an airplane would need, but essentially the

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>same kind of space that a helicopter would need in

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<v Speaker 1>order to land and take off. So you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need what what folks are calling to ports, these uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these these small cleared areas where these vehicles can operate,

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<v Speaker 1>very similar to helicopter takeoff pads. Right, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of thing as that. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>on the top of the building, it might be in

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>an otherwise cleared area, but it can't just be anywhere.

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to see one of these things pull

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<v Speaker 1>up right outside your home. So it's not like you

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<v Speaker 1>step out the front door, walk down the driveway and

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<v Speaker 1>jump into one of these flying air taxis. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>how it's gonna work. Instead, you're gonna have to head

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<v Speaker 1>to the nearest vertiport two catch your ride to the airport.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>So I think calling it home to airport is misleading.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that's a good way of describing this,

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<v Speaker 1>because you do still have to go somewhere else, and

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon the distribution of vertiports, it might not really

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<v Speaker 1>be that effective of a way to reduce the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time it takes for you to get to an airport.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it will. Also, we don't know how much it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cost, We don't know where it's going to be available,

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<v Speaker 1>though Los Angeles and New York are likely to be

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<v Speaker 1>the first cities to use these kind of things. Moreover

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<v Speaker 1>than that, you know, we've we've got that sort of

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>element that we have to factor with. But one that's

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<v Speaker 1>even more important is that federal agencies have to create

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>certifications and approval processes for these kinds of vehicles, and

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that has not happened yet. Right You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>have the f a A just allow unlicensed or uncertified

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>electric vehicles to fly through airspace. That's not going to happen.

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>And no company so far has had its its air

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>taxi kind of vehicle receive any kind of certification from

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>these agencies. So there's a lot of legal process to

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>get through. It's not just technical, although there are other

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>technical challenges to like how do you scale up production

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>so that you meet demand If it turns out there's

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<v Speaker 1>enough demand where this company is going to need to

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>mass produce these vehicles. How does it do that? It's

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>very different from producing a single one. So there are

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of unanswered questions, and there are a lot

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.479
<v Speaker 1>of things that have to fall into place before we

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>ever see air taxis being used, um, you know, in

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>a in an official consumer way. So Delta is pledging

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>money into something that could eventually mature into a useful service.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>But we're still a good ways out from that because

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>we have all these other steps that have to take

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<v Speaker 1>place first. CNBC reports that the Biden Labor Department has

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<v Speaker 1>released a proposal today that could require regulators and courts

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<v Speaker 1>to reclassify gig workers as employees. Right now, the going

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>standard in the United States is to classify folks who

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<v Speaker 1>work in the gig economy as independent contractors, and that

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<v Speaker 1>has pros and cons. On the workers side, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the pros is that independent contractors have a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>freedom to define their own hours, so they can hop

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>on and hop off of work at a very flexibly

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>at their own schedule. But on the flip side, employers

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>can treat independent contractors very different from employees. They don't

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>have to, for example, provide health benefits too independent contractors.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one of the big downsides for people who

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<v Speaker 1>work in the gig economy. They can be heavily exploited

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and receive very little protection in return. They might not

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<v Speaker 1>get overtime pay, they might not be allowed to form

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<v Speaker 1>a union. There are a lot of downsides from the

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<v Speaker 1>employee side. So there's a possibility that in the future

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<v Speaker 1>will see UH a federal level rule put into place

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>where companies like door Dash and lift and Uber will

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>not be able to classify their workers as independent contractors.

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>They'll have to treat them as employees. That would be

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>a massive change to their business model. UH. It would

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<v Speaker 1>likely mean we'd see prices go up for a lot

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of these services because the company's gonna pass that that

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>cost on to us the end consumer. And honestly, we

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know how many of these would even just fold

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 1>up and go away as opposed to trying to work

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>within that system. UM. I think, ultimately, from a personal

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 1>opinion standpoint, this is a good move. I really want

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to I always want to see more protections for the

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>people who are doing the work. I'm not as concerned

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>for the people at the top who are benefiting from

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the exploitation of their workforce, not really losing sleep about

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>their how much take home bay they get. At the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I really worry more about the

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>people who are actually doing all the labor. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know what happens if this rule goes into place,

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know if those models hold up under

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 1>those sets of rules, or if we'll actually see them

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>all kind of collapse in on themselves because the only

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>way they can exist as a business is through being

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>able to exploit the labor force the way it does. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>If it turns out that's the way, I would argue

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that says that business is not a great one for

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>us to support, because we shouldn't be exploiting people to

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that level. But I'm also in a position of privilege

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and I understand that, so you know, I'm not suggesting

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that my point of view is the right one or

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the only one or anything like that. It's just kind

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of how I come at things anyway. These are just

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>proposed sets of rules. Nothing has been enacted, nothing has

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>been voted on, UH, and it may never come to that.

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>But it is interesting that we're seeing movement on that front. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention that artist Ashley Zelinski has created

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<v Speaker 1>a gallery of art that is based on and inspired

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:16.479
<v Speaker 1>by images taken by the James web Space Telescope. These

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>include three dimensional physical sculptures, includes things like lasers that

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>create different images within a foggy environment, and some exhibits

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that require visitors to to don a virtual reality headset

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:37.479
<v Speaker 1>in order to see virtual uh exhibits, all of which

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>are again inspired by these images created by the James

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Webb Space Telescope. And I just think that's really interesting idea. Uh.

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that that creates this super cool experience too

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of encounter the scientific data, but in a completely

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>different context. Right, You're not looking at it as just

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 1>a flat image. You're not looking at it as numbers

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on a chart, you're not looking at it as statistics.

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>You're looking at it as an interpretation of that data.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a super cool idea. It's in

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>New York City's O n X Studio, and so I'm

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen it. I don't live in New York,

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not It's not convenient to me, but I

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>would love to visit it because it just sounds like

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>such a interesting approach to taking something that is more

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>abstract and not as accessible for most of us and

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>turning it into something that could have potentially a really

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>emotional impact on you. Um. I just love these ideas

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>of artists taking inspiration from the scientific endeavors. Of course,

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I say that because I have a tattoo on my

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>back that was part of an art project for NASA,

0:37:56.040 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>so so I i I am a canvas for that

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of an art project. In fact, we shot a

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>video of Forward Thinking where I was getting this hattoo

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>as I was delivering the the episode on camera. So

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that's an experience I never thought I would have when

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, but I got it, so that

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>was kind of cool. Anyway, I just thought that it

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 1>was an interesting concept. If you are in New York

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>City and you can go to O n X Studio

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.479
<v Speaker 1>and check this out, let me know what you think,

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>because I'm curious. I would love it to be like

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a really awesome, impactful experience. Obviously, with art such a

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>personal thing, one person might walk out saying my life

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>has been changed forever, and the other person could walk

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>out saying I could have done something else with those

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 1>two hours of my time. It's very individual in that way,

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>but I am very curious about it. So that's how

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.960
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