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The Texans Training Camp Special is presented 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: by Exfinity and by APACHEE Cooke, Kushata Dykon for Houston 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Eye Associates, Houston Methodist, Red Diamond, Reliant, and by Texas Lottery. 10 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Now let's go to the studio. Here are your hosts 11 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: for the Texans Training Camps Special. Yeah, it is another 12 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: beautiful Sunday afternoon in Houston, Texas. And once again you 13 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: were joined by myself, Way Smith, got my guy cecil 14 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: short six year NFL VET here with the Texans Training 15 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: Camp Special presented by Exfinity. Got an action packed show 16 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: for you guys a day on this Sunday afternoon. Get 17 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: a little bit into this Texans dress rehearsal that they 18 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: did it NRG on Thursday, the upcoming season will have 19 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: a season preview with Mark Vandermer at three o'clock. We 20 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: have John Harris joining us at four pm, and Sean 21 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: Pennergast is gonna step in at five o'clock for a 22 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: little bit of the show there too. But before we 23 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: get to those guys, Cecil and I want to get 24 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: into this this Texans dress rehearsal that they did on Thursday. 25 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: And I tell you what, man, there was a lot 26 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: of interesting tidbits that I saw are not actually we saw, 27 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: but gleaned from things that were seen by other people. 28 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Because you know, we don't have access to RG this 29 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: year because of the coronavirus. There's a lot of things 30 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: going over there NRG that we don't get to see. 31 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: But Sean Pendergast was there so got some of his insight, 32 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: will be getting his insight a little bit later. Of course, 33 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: Mark vandermir was there, John Harris was there. Those guys 34 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: were all at the at the scrimmages and it was 35 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: ad dress rehearsal. Man. The guys went out there and 36 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: we're in full pass there in full uniforms. They did 37 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: the introductions, m they had the crowd, noise was pumped 38 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: into the building and just see, so from your perspective, man, like, 39 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: how do you how do you think those guys approached 40 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: that that dress rehearsal, and how do you how do 41 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: you think you would approach it, and how do you 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: how do you feel like that it's going to help 43 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: them going forward for the twenty twenty season. Well, for me, 44 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: I think I would approach that as the I would 45 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: have took us a game, you know what I mean. 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: You got the crowd noise in there, you got the announcing. 47 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: I think that was the goal of the whole situation 48 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: and going there to like, okay, let's make this as 49 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: game like as possible, and like you said, it's a 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: dress rehearsal form the tenth So I think they did 51 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: as best as they could put those guys in that 52 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: situation with realistic of course, not hitting the quarterbacks. But 53 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm pretty sure it was thud 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the times. But you know, when you 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: got the defense courting to call the plays, offense coording 56 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: they call the plays, you they probably gained planning for 57 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: each other, made scripts the whole nine, maybe even gave 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: a little scouting report just to give a little prep 59 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: for the upcoming game coming up soon. Um, so I 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: would have took it this series. I'm pretty sure that 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: they took it as a game. And it's fun. It's 62 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: really fun when you get to go out there and 63 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: just fly around when you get a chance to. And 64 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: it's it's tough and difficult because normally around this time, 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: you're tired of going against your guys, right, You're tired 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: of seeing the same guys over and over again. You're 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: tired of you know, they know what you do, you 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: know what they do. But you get a chance to 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: scheme averse to each other and not freelance, but have 70 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: some opportunity to just play against each other and then 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: have fun. I think it was it was a good 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: idea and it's what's needed for the Texas moving forward. 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Is that something that y'all did when when you were 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: with the Texans, Because when I was with the Texas 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: with Kubiak, we really didn't go into the actual stadium 76 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: if we did our dress rehearsals. So we did our 77 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: scrimmages out there on the practice field outside and it 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: would be fans out there and stuff. But I didn't 79 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: I have noticed that since Bill O'Brien has has been 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: in charging, especially since they got the new turf in 81 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: there that they've had more opportunities to go out there 82 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: and actually practice or scrimmage throughout the season in the 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: actual NRG stadium. Did y'all do that at all when 84 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: you were there? We did so. Bill O'Brien did a 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: good job of communicating with the guys like, hey, you 86 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: guys want to go and it'll be a group of 87 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: be a committee right older veterans like hey, do you 88 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: wanna be on grass that they want to be on turf, 89 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: be in the sun, wanna be out the sun. So 90 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: he did a good job of taking care of us 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: as far as hey, today we're gonna be indoors, so 92 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: we'll have four practices and indoors. It could be in 93 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: a bubble or it could be in the actual day, 94 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: independent on what's going on. Yeah, So it was it 95 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: was dope because he's like, all right, he's taking care 96 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: of us, he's making sure that we're okay, trying to 97 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: put us in the best situation to play well. One 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Sunday and then this was during camp. He would even 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: do this, so this this is nothing new. He does 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: a great job of figuring out ways to cater to 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: his vets per se and make sure he's uh, he's 102 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: good with those guys. Yeah, I tell you what. That's 103 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: That's something about Bill O'Brien that I noticed people. It's 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: kind of a misconception. If you're a veteran and guy 105 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: and he trust you, oh yeah, he takes care of you. 106 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: If you're a rookie and he doesn't trust you, it's 107 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: the exact opposite. You're gonna get the blues and so 108 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: then and that's just something that to me as a 109 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: as a veteran guy, you can appreciate that. Yeah. Um. 110 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's just you know, there's 111 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: there's more than one way that's getting a cat. There's 112 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: and and there's there's some coaches that approach you and say, hey, 113 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: you're a professional. I don't care if you're a rookie 114 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: or you're a tendued guy. Uh, this is what I 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: expect you to do, and I'm not gonna micro manage you. Um. 116 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: There's another side of it that says, hey, once once 117 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: you get once I gained trust from you and and 118 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: you gain my trust, now I'm gonna treat you in 119 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: a different way than I'm going to do a younger guy, 120 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: somebody that hasn't gained my trust. And that's something I've 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: kind of noticed about his coaching philosophy over there with 122 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: the Texans. He does a great job of just communicating 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: with his players so they're all on the same page 124 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: no matter what's going on in or around. He does 125 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: a great job of making sure, Okay, this is what's 126 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: going on, this is what I'm thinking. What do you 127 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: guys think now moving that's a quick question for you. 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: How do you feel if this is what we can't 129 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: be there, which I'm so jealous of Mark and John 130 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: and all those guys that can be there. Right. What's 131 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: the thing that you read or highlights that you've seen 132 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: that just stood out to you as far as the scrimmage, Well, 133 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: I tell you what, man, it wasn't necessarily from the scrimmage, 134 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: but somebody that was mentioned after the scrimmage was Charles 135 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: the meniheugh and what his player has been like. And 136 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: you've you've heard his name throughout all of the practices 137 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: after this scrimmage at NRG and you know, Bill O'Brien 138 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: talked about him a little bit in the press conference 139 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: about what he did, what he's done so far in 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: his training camp and in a while and something like this. Yeah, 141 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Charles has had a really good camp. He's uh, he's 142 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: really uh, you know. To me, he's like almost a 143 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: different player than he was last year. He just he's stronger, 144 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: he's put weight on, he's his technique is better. He's 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: very focused. Uh. I think guys, you know, from year 146 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: one to year two, if they play in year one, 147 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, they they they do a lot of guys 148 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: do take that jump going into year two. They have 149 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: more confidence, They understand the routine, they understand pro football. 150 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: He's got a great veterans there like JJ and Brandon 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Dunn and you know, those guys that have been around 152 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: a while at that position. We've coached him, so I 153 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: think he's definitely improved. Yeah, and Charles and many who 154 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: him being one of those guys that last last year 155 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: he made plays, but there were a lot of plays 156 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: that he was half a step from making. Um, he 157 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: was he was just this close to making that play. 158 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Reminds me of what JJ was like his rookie year. 159 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: And not to say that Charles and Minny he was 160 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: gonna turn into JJ Watt. But JJ Watt was one 161 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: of those guys that was this close. He was half 162 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: a step away from making a bunch of plays. He 163 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: made a huge jump for one year from year one 164 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: to year two, and then year and three and four 165 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: he became you know, JJ Watt, which was one of 166 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: the best to ever do it. But Charles a man 167 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: of who does remind me the way he looked last 168 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: year where he was winning one on one battles against 169 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: offensive lineman and sometimes he was making plays, but there 170 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: was more. There was more out there, There was more 171 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: meat on those bones that he wasn't quite doing, wasn't 172 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: quite getting And the fact that he's continuing to improve, 173 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: and you're hearing Bill O'Brien talk about it, you're hearing 174 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: multiple sources that are actually been able to see him 175 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: out there practicing and making plays because JJ hasn't practiced 176 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: this entire this entire preseason, and so a many of 177 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: you has been in his spot and there hasn't been 178 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: There hasn't been a hole there. There hasn't been a 179 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: situation where you're saying, well, then we need JJ back 180 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: because a minute he was not getting it done. It's 181 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: quite the opposite it's hey, a many of he was 182 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: playing at a very very high level this entire camp, 183 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: and so that's something to be encouraged about coming out 184 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: of the scrimmage energy on Thursday. What would or what 185 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: did JJ improve on? Could you say his rookie year, 186 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: he was like this a half step too soon. He 187 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: was right there, the right almost there at the right time. 188 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: What would he what did he improve on that next 189 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: year and years to come make him so great? Well? 190 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: And many of you talked about this a little bit. 191 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I think we have this audio later in the show, 192 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: but a many of you talked about it h in 193 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: his press conference that he did today. Pressure he did 194 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: m Yeah, I was there, JJ rookie ear was two 195 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: thy eleven. So that was that was a hell of 196 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: a year for the for the city of Houston because 197 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: the Texans won our first division that year, we went 198 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs, won our first playoff game. But 199 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: that was his rookie year and he made plays and 200 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: you saw early on in the training camp that he 201 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: was going to be a good player, But there was 202 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: nothing that would would tell you this guy's gonna turn 203 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: into Hall of Fame. You know, JJ Watt what he 204 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: is now and so a lot of that stuff has 205 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: to do with gaining confidence and then improving and honing 206 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: on your technique. And I think that's something that that 207 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: Charles the Mannie was trying to do. That's something for 208 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: sure that what JJ did where he if you even 209 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: if you look at JJ's for Zeke when he was 210 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: a rookie versus a second year, it changed. He went 211 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: from he was he was a more I would say, 212 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: a doe year player. You know, he was a doe 213 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: year player his rookie year as opposed to the second year. 214 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: Now he's cut up like he looks like he could 215 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: be you know, like I said, we talked about it 216 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: last week, he's like an action figure or I'm like, 217 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna be action here or whatever. But you can 218 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: see his body physically changed from your one to two. 219 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: You can see his technique improve from your one to 220 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: year two. And then his confidence knowing that I can 221 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: beat this guy across from me, and that's something that 222 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: that's what that's what is a huge factor. And if 223 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna have success or not in this league, if 224 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: you if you truly believe I'm gonna beat the person 225 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: across from me, you will get it done more times 226 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: than not, as opposed to if you're just saying, well, 227 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try this and hopefully it works out. When 228 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: you know that I could whoop somebody across from me, 229 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: and I know if I work my technique can do 230 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: it the right way. That now you know, all right, 231 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: this is when you take those huge steps and bounds. 232 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: And I think Charles, I man of you. He has 233 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: it him to make a huge step. We talked about 234 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: last week. He was my guy that I felt like, 235 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the biggest step from year one to 236 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: year two in this system, and so I'm looking forward 237 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: to see that out of him this season. The mental game, 238 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: from year one to year two, the mental game period 239 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: is so important for an athlete, right like you said 240 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: it right there, to know that I can get past 241 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: this guy, beat this guy used my taking to get 242 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, rather than I'm hoping this works and 243 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: from year one to year two, getting those reps and 244 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: seeing it and then coming this year, like for many 245 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: of you, getting those reps from practice and like, okay, 246 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: last year I was kind of just getting my feet wet, 247 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of understand what's going on, how to be a pro. Now, 248 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, JJ's fine, he's working out in the side, 249 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: they're taking care of him. He has in his VET days, 250 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: but the many he was getting, all the reps that 251 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: he needs to build that confidence and get that mental 252 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: game strong, because and when your mental game is strong, you, 253 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: like I said, you know you're gonna make plays. You 254 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: know you're gonna go out there, and then then the 255 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: jump from year one of year two in itself for 256 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: most players is a very good jump. So I'm excited 257 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: to see him. I'm also cited to see a J. Moore. 258 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: Many more I read about him, the more it's like 259 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: every day it's like he's making plays, he's knocking balls down. 260 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Everybody loves this his it's his charisma out there. Everybody's 261 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: just coming like this, falling in love with the kids. 262 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what he can bring, not only 263 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: on special teams, but possibly a bigger role on defenses. Yeah, 264 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: you've you've seen that. He's been a guy that's kind 265 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 1: of come out the blue and a lot of in 266 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, a lot of perspective. He's just 267 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: looked at as a special team's guy when he first 268 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: got here, but he's continuing to improve his his his 269 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: playmaking ability at the safety position or the star position 270 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: on the nickel corner, however you want to put him, 271 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: he's there. And that's the thing about his defenses and 272 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: you'll see that. I think throughout the season is they 273 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: have a probably a handful of like three or four 274 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: guys that can make They're interchangeable. They can put in 275 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: multiple roles, either deep as a safety in the box, 276 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: um as a as a nickel player right outside the box. 277 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: They are utilizing multiple guys in that role, but he's 278 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: been the one that's made the most plays. And so 279 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: the way this league works, if you're making plays in 280 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: training camp, you're making plays in practice, especially this year 281 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: more than any because there is no preseason games that's 282 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: gonna allow you opportunities to play in the game. And 283 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: so a J. Moore is somebody I think coming out 284 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: of the scrimmage in NRG and just this this training 285 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: camp in general, debts to be excited about. With the 286 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: Texans um another guy's John Reid. John John Reid is 287 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: a guy I think I saw you on Texas Extra 288 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: Points or something like that. Maybe I saw a little 289 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: clip about that. I guess you're gonna be talking about 290 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: that tonight that comes on to night. I think it. Yeah, 291 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: that comes on ABC thirteen A season shorts to be 292 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: on there with Drew Daugherty. But I tell you what, man, 293 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: I saw the little clip where you're talking about John Reid. 294 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: Was your guy, that your rookie that you're really excited 295 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: about it? And and Bill O'Brien had some some thoughts 296 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: about John Reid as well part player. I mean, he's, um, 297 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, look, he's got a lot to learn. I 298 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: just said, relative to the rookie class, you know, um, 299 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: you know he's not headed to Cannon quite yet. But 300 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: but relative to the rookie class, he's, uh, he's done 301 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: a good job. He's learning. He plays hard, he's competitive, 302 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: he's a very smart guy. He can do some different things. 303 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: He can help on special teams. He can you know, 304 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: potentially help us on defense. So I just think he's he's, um, 305 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: a guy that's mature. He's been through a lot, you know, 306 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: injury wise. Um, you know he said to overcomes things 307 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: when he was at Penn State. Um. And so yeah, 308 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: I think he's doing a good job. So so not 309 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: to throw a wet blanket on your on your thoughts there, O'Brien. 310 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: You know it's hard on those rookies. So I mean, 311 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean for a rookie, right, all right, But that's 312 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, and I ain't at it. I ain't at 313 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: a rookie's got own the key. But John Reid has 314 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: had a hell of a training camp but been I mean, 315 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: like he said, for a rookie, he's doing a good job. 316 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: And that's that's the first step. If you're not having 317 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: a good camp as a rookie, um, you definitely don't 318 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: have any chance of either making the team or being 319 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: a factor this season. And the fact that he is 320 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: having a good camp for a rookie, that puts him 321 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: in a running to be able to actually help this 322 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: team this year at some point in and that's what 323 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: you need. They need bodies, especially in the defensive back. 324 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: For the now, we are quickly approaching the one year 325 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: anniversary of a frenetic twenty four hours of trades by 326 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and the Texans. We'll dig into how those 327 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: trades stacked up a year later. 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This is Wade Smith got 425 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: Sea some shorts of course, and during the break, Ian 426 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Rappaport puts out a tweet that says Texans and standout 427 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: linebacker Zach Cunningham has agreed to terms on a huge 428 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: new extension worth fourteen point five million dollars per year 429 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: in new money average, sources tell me and Tom Pellicero, 430 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: big payday for a rising star. A deal negotiated by 431 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: athletes first led by Kyle McCarthy. Zach Cunningham deal is done. 432 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: First reaction seasil shorts well deserved. I'm glad that Bill 433 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: O'Brien is getting the big name guys out the way. 434 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: I think McClean, like you mentioned off air a week 435 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: or two ago, said that they're going to try to 436 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: get Watson and Cuttingham done before the season, and those 437 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: are those had your halfway done right now. Cunningham is 438 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: one of the best better linebackers in the league. Um. 439 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: I think he was ranked thirteen for whatever like that 440 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: from PFAF the other day. But he is somebody that 441 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: that can help you. Not only all, he's awesome in 442 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: the run game. He can stuff the run game. He's 443 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: a difference maker there. But with his length, with his 444 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: ability to run, he can cover tight ends. He can 445 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: cover running backs and he did a decent job with 446 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: that last year. So for me, he's he's a Pro 447 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: Bowl guy. I'm excited to see him still here in 448 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: this in this blue and red and well deserved. Yeah. 449 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: I tell you what, man, you gotta give a big 450 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: nod to John McClane putting this out there about a 451 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: microso going on Twitter, he put out the tweet that said, 452 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: I expect the Shawn Watson and Zach Cunningham to get 453 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: a deal done before the season starts. And when you 454 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: saw the Shawn Watson, everybody say, oh, yeah, that makes 455 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: perfect sense, but you're kind of surprised that Zach Cunningham 456 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: was being put as a huge priority, and not because 457 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: he's not worthy. It's just, hey, everybody's thinking, you're gonna 458 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: focus all your attention in on Deshaun Watson because he's 459 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: the franchise, But Zach Cunningham, he's one of those young 460 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: pieces on defense, foundational piece that is just coming into 461 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: his own but has played at a very very high 462 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: level in the limited time that he's been here with 463 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: the Texans. And I'm very, very excited about him being 464 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: here for the faeserable future because he's what he's what. 465 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: He's kind of like a he's not prototypical when you 466 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: talk about size, but an effectiveness and what you're gonna 467 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: need out of linebackers in two thou twenties NFL play, 468 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: he's what you need. He's a guy that is extremely athletic. 469 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: He's physical at the point of attack when big guys come, 470 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: when offensive linemans try to come to the second level 471 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 1: and swallow him up and beat him, beat him up. 472 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: He's very powerful at the point of attack, will get 473 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: rid of blockers, make plays. He's sideline and sideline and 474 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: then he can cover out. He can cover running backs 475 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: out of the backfield and so and he's long. He 476 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: makes plays. You've seen him make interceptions that look very athletic. 477 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: He his bill reminds me of Cam Chancellor, and he's 478 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: physical like Cam Chancellor, but he's a linebacker and he's 479 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: able to play even stronger at the point of attack. 480 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: So I think it was a very very smart move 481 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: the Texans for locking them up. Now, you know it's 482 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna cost you less now than it would later because 483 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: because he didn't go to the Pro Bowl last year. 484 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: I expect him to be a guy that's voted to 485 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl this upcoming season. Yeah, he led the 486 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: league in tackles last year. The only reason you didn't 487 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl because he really wasn't on 488 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: the radar. And once you get on the radar, now 489 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: you take that next step and become a Pro Bowl guy. 490 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: And that's what I think you get at a Zach 491 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: hunting him So glad that he's here. Is a good 492 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: deal for the Texans. As far as locking them up, 493 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: we can get into the numbers and the particulars of it, 494 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: but we don't really know that. This is really literally 495 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: just breaking news. I saw the tweet and it was 496 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: it was posted two minutes before I saw the tweet 497 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: from from Ian Rappaport. So I'm sure they'll get into 498 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: the details of how it's worked out with the salary 499 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: cap and how does affect that, But just looking at 500 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: it on the surface of what kind of deal is 501 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: this for the Texans, it's a great deal because you 502 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: have Zach cunning him in the phone. You have to 503 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: worry about him leaving and going elsewhere, like something that 504 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: has happened with some drafted guys with the Texans over 505 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: the years, And so this is a guy that you 506 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: want to keep in the You want to keep your 507 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: good players home. Man. You find a start like a 508 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: guy that you drafted, a guy that you helped develop. 509 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: The guy that is, like you said mentioned in, one 510 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: of the top linebackers in the league as far as 511 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: he led the league and tackles last year. You got 512 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: to keep that guy here. And if you let him 513 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: get on the market or get through the season and 514 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: he continues to play well, you know that price is 515 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: going up. I just watched Jacksonville trade Yannick and we'll 516 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: get to that a little later. They trade Yannick, They 517 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: had Jalen Ramsey, they had Alan Robinson. Those are three 518 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: Pro bowlers or three top tier one of the some 519 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: of the top people in their position. Let go out 520 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: of the building and they don't have no nothing to 521 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: show for it, right, So to keep more trafficks so 522 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: people and developing him and then let go. So for 523 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: the Texans to um really keep Zach here and working 524 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: on the shan as well, it's a really big deal. Yeah. 525 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man. Once again, if you haven't 526 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: heard it, Zach Cunningham has come to terms with the 527 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: Houston Texans that was reported by Tom Pella Sero and 528 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: Ian rap Report. I saw them actually on on Rapperport's Twitter, 529 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: but those guys co sourced it, and so those are 530 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: two reputable sources. And it doesn't surprise me because, like 531 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: I said, about a week or so ago, John mcclaim 532 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: put out a tweet saying that he expected that the 533 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: Texas were gonna get a deal done with Deshaun Watson 534 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: and Zach Huntingham. And we were talking a little bit 535 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: about the money earlier. I would expect since Zach Huntingham 536 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: is on his fourth year of a deal, I'm sure 537 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: the money won't kick it until next season. Um, steal 538 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: a plenty of money there to take care of the 539 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: most important piece on the Houston Texas and that's Deshaun Watson. 540 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Um'll be interested to see how soon after this deal 541 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: has done that Deshaun gets done. Um. We were supposed 542 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: to be talking about the fact that this is the 543 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: anniversary of some big trades. Uh. That was that was 544 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be. That was what our teas coming into 545 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: this to this segment. UM, I mean, I guess this 546 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: is this is Bill O'Brian's time to make some some 547 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: foundational moves for the organization. If if you get around 548 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: August twenty ninth through by September first, some moves are 549 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: gonna get made for tex I'm I'm gonna put Bill 550 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: le Brown on the clock right now. By September first, 551 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: I would expect the deal done by Deshaun Watson because 552 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: and he actually I think we have this, Uh, we 553 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: have this audio. I just want you to talk. I 554 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: played this audio for me real quick, uh, Brandon about 555 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: his thoughts about the anniversary of the trades from last year. 556 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Tomorrow will be the one year anniversary of the day 557 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: last year where you made all those trades of the 558 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: Dolphins in the r And I'm I'm just I'm guessing 559 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: it's less busy this year than it was last year 560 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: for you at this time. I'm just curious with the 561 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: year's worth of data. Now, Um, how do you feel 562 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: about what that day has meant to to your football team? Yeah? Look, 563 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: I think that was, you know, a day where you know, 564 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: we made some moves that we felt were in the 565 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: best interest of the team, not only last year but 566 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: moving into the future. I believe that if you if 567 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: you look at the players that we were able to 568 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: acquire or maybe you know, whether it was a pick 569 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: that we used or you know, to acquire a player. 570 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I believe it made us a better team. Um, you know, look, 571 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: I have trouble remembering, uh my own wedding anniversary. So 572 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up that anniversary. But now when 573 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: he when he made that comment, when when Sean Pendergast 574 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: asked him the question you heard the chuckle in the back, 575 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: you heard you heard how Bill lebron chuckle. He knew 576 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: that this deal was in the work. I mean, the 577 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: deal was the deal is consummated today. That question was asked, 578 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: Was that was that last night? It was earlier today? 579 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: That was today? Right, that was earlier today. So he 580 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Sean Pendergast asked him this question, right, and this is 581 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: this is like a few hours ago. He's having this 582 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: this zoom call talking with all of the reporters and 583 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, anniversary. You're like, yeah, just wait to 584 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: what happens when this news breaks and you'll see that 585 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: there's some significance to this. Yeah, maybe this is something 586 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: we can look forward to in the future for the 587 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: next few years, that there's gonna be something big coming 588 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: down around all twenty nine, August thirty or whatever. But 589 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: when he asked that question, that was a big chuckle 590 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: that came out of billow'brian's mouth, and he said, you 591 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: know what, we made a move that we thought was 592 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: in the best interest of the team. We got the 593 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: team better. I think this is another one of those moves, 594 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: and we'll be able to kind of legislate out how 595 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: we thought that anniversary we'll we'll do that in the 596 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: next segment because we're up against it. But yeah, man, 597 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's big time. Zach Cunningham is going 598 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: to be a Texan for the next I don't know, 599 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: it didn't give them the years of the dude, it did. 600 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: Here it goes real quick. Four year deal. This is 601 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: coming from Aaron Wilson. Four year deal, fifty eight million 602 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: including twenty three point five million and four guarantees and 603 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: thirty two point five million and injury guarantees. There you 604 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: have it. Four years. So that's four years in addition 605 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: to what he already had one. So you got you, 606 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: you basically got him this season plus four more. Um, 607 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: I'll take it. Good for Zach, good for the Texans, 608 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: and hey, this is this is breaking news. We're gonna 609 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: stick with this topic here, so we'll get into more 610 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: of that next. This is Whitney merciless listening to Texan's radio. 611 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Don't touch that dog a no mercy or else a 612 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: noo mercy. Twenty five years huh. That's a quarter century 613 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: or three hundred months, or nine one hundred twenty five 614 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: days or one hundred and seventy five years to your dog. Now, 615 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: for something to be around that long, that's impressive. 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We just had some breaking news. 699 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: Is Zach Cunningham, linebacker for the Houston Texans, just signed 700 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: a four year, fifty eight million dollar contract. And there 701 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: was somebody that knew that this was brewing weeks ago, 702 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: and he tweeted about it, and so why not go 703 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: to the man himself. We have John McLean on the 704 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: line right now, the general John McLean of host Houston 705 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: Chronicle and one of our voices here at Sports Radio sixteen. John, 706 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: how are you doing this afternoon? Appreciate you joining us. 707 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: What do you think about this whole Zach Cunningham getting 708 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: this deal done with the Houston Texans, I'm doing great 709 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: way Ope, you and Cecil are doing very well too. 710 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: They've been working on it. We talked about it quite 711 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: a bit. It was not a front Bernard deal like 712 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, but they got it done before Watson average 713 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: of fourteen point five million a year. Cunningham certainly worth it. 714 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, they got one of the best tandems at 715 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: inside linebacker in the NFL. I believe it was Pro 716 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: Football focus. I read this past week about the top 717 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: twenty five linebackers in the league and the only team 718 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: that had two in the top fifteen was Dallas and 719 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: then of course the Texans. So I know cunning mswell 720 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: fired up about this, as he should be. And now 721 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: they've only got one more to do, and that would 722 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: be with Deshaun Watson. You know, they freed they redid 723 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: three players contracts and they freed up about eight million, 724 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: and they had about twenty three million under the cap, 725 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: and so they've done this one and now they and 726 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: I can't say, wait and see, so they focused on 727 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: Watson because they've been focused on Watson. But you know, 728 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: both guys got to want to get a deal done. John, 729 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: This is a lot of money for the linebackers. If 730 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: you look at Whitney's contract, if you look up an 731 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: Hard's contract, if you look at what Zach just got today. 732 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: And obviously need to spect some some definitely some some 733 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: good play coming from these guys. What about Watson? Do 734 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: you think there's still a good chance that the deal 735 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: gets done before the season. I've been saying that they 736 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: wanted to get it done by the time the season starts. 737 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: Season starts on September tenth. I would imagine if they're close, 738 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: of course they'll extend that and keep doing it if 739 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: they think they got a chance to get a deal. 740 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: If they don't, then I think they would say, Okay, 741 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: well we'll talk about it after this season when he's 742 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: got a one year left. And but I know both 743 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: sides want to get it done. You know, for a while, 744 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: David mcleta his agent in Austin one or a three 745 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: year extension which would tie him to the team for 746 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: five years, and they wanted four years, which would tie 747 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: him to the team for six years. And either way 748 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: that contract's not going to expire. They're going to redo 749 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: it with a year left. So I don't know why 750 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: that even matters if it's three or four because they're 751 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: going to redo it anyway. And they got him for 752 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: the next two years under a cap friendly contract that 753 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: will not hurt them when they're trying to sign free agents. 754 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: So both sides want to get it done. But I 755 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: love to use this. Bud Adams, the late owner of 756 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: the Oilers, told us one time when he had a 757 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: contract issue with quarterback Warren Moon, and he meant to 758 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: say it takes two to tangle, and he said, well, 759 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: you know it takes two to tango, and you know 760 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: it does take two to tango, and it takes two 761 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: to tangle two. I tell you what, John, And just 762 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: talking about Zach Cunning him, he's a guy that last 763 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: season he put up numbers that would would have you 764 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: believed that he would have been a pro bowler. Sometimes 765 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: that you know, you have to have that really good 766 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: season and then get on people's radar for you to 767 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: actually get over the top and become a pro bowler. 768 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: And a lot of times when you get a big 769 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: contract that goes along with production, it's almost a shoe 770 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: in for you to take that next step and become 771 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: a pro bowler. Do you see that type of season 772 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: out of Zach cunning him in twenty twenty, I could 773 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: see it out of him, But Art McKinney both the 774 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: key as the defense has got to be better. You 775 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: can't go across the board bad on total defense, run 776 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: defense and pass defense and expect to have Pro bowlers now. 777 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: The only one that you're gonna get. If J. J. 778 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: Watt plays a full season, he's a shoe in. But 779 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: if the team continues to win and the defense to 780 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: say as good as it was two years ago when 781 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: they had Watt and Clowney and maybe McKinney, McKinney was 782 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: in there at some point, but the stage is set 783 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: for Zach. Zach, as you guys know, is a complete linebacker. 784 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: He drops into coverage, he plays the run, and on 785 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: a Asian they'll let him rush. That's not his forte 786 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: because he's so good at coverage. So he and McKinney. 787 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: They have different scale sets. But an article try to cover, 788 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: but he's all about the run and Zach can do both. 789 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: So I know Bill O'Brien and Jack Easterby and Cal 790 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: McNair they gotta feel good about getting this still done. 791 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: How good can this defense be? And everybody seem that 792 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: they're healthy, they're ready to go. You just got you 793 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: got two guys that potentially are Pro Bowl linebackers, and 794 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: you can keep everybody healthy in the front seven. You've 795 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: got some helping them back in. How good can this 796 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: defense be? You think this year it was really good 797 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: two years ago? And what happened two years ago? He 798 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: had White play in every game and getting sixteen sacks 799 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: and being first team All Pro. I think for the 800 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: defense to be really good again, JJ's got to play 801 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: a full season. You got to have two young guys 802 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: Charles Minihu and Jacob Martin emerge as consistent pass rushers 803 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: in their second seasons in the system. And if they 804 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: can generate some pressure, you I have to get the 805 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: quarterback just generate some pressure to help the back in that. 806 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: Romeo'crenell told us last week he was talking about the 807 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: coverage is so important. The coverage can help the pass rush, 808 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: Well it can, but you know, really, to me, you 809 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: want to start it up front. They got they got 810 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: a news starter and Eric Murray as safety and all 811 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: their corners played a lot last year. Lonnie Johnson Junior 812 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: looked really good in training camp. Jacob Martin. When Bill 813 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: O'Brien talks about the defense, he talks about him a 814 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: lot and a J. Moore Watch out for a J. Moore. 815 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Texans Training Camp special presented by 816 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: x Affinity. We have General John McLean of the Houston 817 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: Chronicle joining us talking about the breaking news that Zach 818 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: Henningham has signed a four year, fifty eight million dollar 819 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: extension with the Houston Texans. He'll be here for the 820 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: next five seasons. John, let me ask you this man, 821 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: that the Texans have put themselves in a position now 822 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: that they've locked up Zack Cunningham. You mentioned it earlier 823 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,959 Speaker 1: with DeShawn Watson was the guy that is the number 824 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: one priority of getting signed to a long term extension. 825 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: We saw what happened with Pat Mahomes and his extension 826 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 1: that he did with the Chiefs, and it was very 827 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: it was very team friendly. It was very cap friendly 828 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: in order for them to get other guys done on 829 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: that roster. Do you see Deshaun Watson giving an inch 830 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: when it comes to being team friendly with the type 831 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: of contract that he gets done, if it was to 832 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: get done before the season starts. Uh no, because he's 833 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: got two years left on his current Dale, which is 834 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: team friendly. That's what happened in Kansas City. He has 835 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: two years left onless Dale, so it's team friendly. So 836 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: then the big, big money kicks up in three years 837 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 1: and and I think I can't it's two thousand twenty 838 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: three when Mahomes makes forty million for the first time. 839 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: So whatever they signed watching to the kind of deal, 840 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: it'll be good for two more years and it'll be 841 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: team friendly. John. So we got Zach and this page, 842 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: we got the shyness in the works. Now after we 843 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 1: get these two guys, what are we gonna talk about 844 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 1: who's up next? After talking about football for a change. 845 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: And that's a good thing. So there's no way there's 846 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: no way that JJ White gets his name thrown in 847 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: the haad it all of getting extension down, say, Jake 848 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: told us. We asked him about that early in training camp. 849 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: He said, no, that's not Sums on his radar, and 850 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be. He played after season. He's got two 851 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 1: years laugh, and I'll guarantee if he plays well this season, 852 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: they'll be talking to him about that next year when 853 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: he has one year left and the key and JJ 854 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: knows it, he couldn't come to ask him for an 855 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: extension when he only played a regular season games. You 856 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: look at the going to the offensive side of the ball, 857 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the various receivers that are 858 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: based on the last year to deal you got Will Fuller. 859 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 1: The money, the money that is guaranteed for Brandon Cooks 860 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: is not there for next season. Kenny Steals is on 861 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: the last year he's deal. If there was one guy 862 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: out of those threes that you said that there's no 863 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: way that the texts are going to allow to get 864 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: out of the building, who would that person be? Of 865 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: those receivers right now? Wouldn't say, I couldn't say. Brandon 866 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: Coox is under a multi year deal, so you think Fuller, 867 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: but Fuller. Cooks has been so much better than Will 868 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 1: Fuller in his career. Coox had four consecutive thousand yard seasons. 869 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: He's been to a Super Bowl because he's managed to 870 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: stay elthy. Last year he missed only two games but 871 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: called a career load of forty two passes. But you know, 872 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: of those two cooks has been great, Fuller has been 873 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 1: really good at times, great every once in a while. 874 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: But if Will's playing for a new contract or a 875 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: new zip code, because if he continues to get hurt, 876 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: his injuries are legitimate. You know, it's not one case. 877 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: I like to say, some guys get shampoo in their 878 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: eyes and they missed the month. He's not like that. 879 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: His injuries are serious. But he told us he's done 880 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: some new things to help his lower part of the body, 881 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: so he'll help him play sixteen games for the first 882 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: time in his career. He hadn't played for He hadn't 883 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: played as many as fourteen since his rookie year, and 884 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: that's very important. My opinion is I don't see him 885 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: resigning Fuller and Stills next year. They could, but the 886 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: CAP's going down. We don't know how much. It depends 887 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: on what the revenue is, but they're gonna have to 888 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: make some hard decisions. I don't think both those guys 889 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,479 Speaker 1: would be gone, but I think one of them would 890 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: and Kenny Stills is the most likely because he's older 891 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: and even though he's been a good productive player, you 892 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: know he's not will Fuller. He can talk about the 893 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: tight end group a little bit. You got fails at 894 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 1: Aigin's Thomas and then Wearing. I believe Wearing was able 895 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: to practice this week a little bit. How does he look? 896 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: But overall, how does that tight end group look? Where 897 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: he missed two days and he came back and this 898 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: week he really last week he really stepped up seasonally. 899 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: He's making catches like you. He is too. He's going 900 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: up with people on him, bringing the ball down with him, 901 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 1: trying to fight knock the ball out. You know, he's 902 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: six five, he's got great reach, he's strong, he's got 903 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: strong hands, good speed, catches all over the field. He's 904 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: just gone make that decision a whole lot tougher. John 905 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: Circling them back to the man of the hour, mister 906 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: Zach Hunningham. We just got a new four year, fifty 907 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,959 Speaker 1: eight million dollars stenching by the Houston Texans. Talking about 908 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver and the way that he's calling plays and 909 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: the exotic looks that he's putting up there and the 910 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: Bliss packages that he's putting together. How do you think 911 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: that is going to affect and help Zach Huntingham going 912 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: forward for the twenty twenty season. First of all, I 913 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 1: think I wrote this yesterday and I believe it. Coaches 914 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: who are calling plays for the first time, they need 915 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: preseason games just like players to. And I asked O'Brian today, 916 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: how do you evaluate players in practice when you don't 917 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: have preseason games or joint practices, and he said, you 918 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 1: try to do more of going up and down the 919 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: field and guys going against each other. You know, even 920 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: though you don't hit, you still watch for guys to 921 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: get open, guys to cover, guys to come in and 922 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 1: touch the quarterback with one hand like you're playing flag football, 923 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: screen sack. So they're doing more of that to help 924 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: them evaluate. And everybody out there when they're asked about Weaver, 925 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: they just praise the heck out of Anthony. They're all 926 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: fired up. We don't know what he's going to do 927 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: because he's not going to tell us and he's not 928 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: going to show us until September the tenth when they 929 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: play Kansas City. And this, you know, this opening schedule 930 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: that They have their opponents of forty four and twenty 931 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: by far the toughest four games, and then Minnesota just 932 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: adding Nick got Away from Sinville, giving them another pass 933 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: rusher opposite to Neil Hunter. They have playmakers at defensive end, linebacker, 934 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: and probably one of the best safeties in the league. 935 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: And they're coming in here for the fourth game. So 936 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: that schedule is tough, and we'll get to see right 937 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: off the bat what Anthony Weaver's got in store. And 938 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: one reason it's good because you guys know this, the 939 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: best time to utilize all your weapons is early in 940 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: the season, when they're healthy, guys don't start to get 941 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: beat up. So I'm like you and everybody else out there, 942 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: we want to see what Anthony Weaver and Tim Kelly 943 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: are going to do. Kelly, I think we know he's 944 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: going to have to Shaun Watson throw the ball to 945 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: a whole lot of good receivers, but he doesn't lie 946 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: rely on deception and things like Weaver does. So I'm 947 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: pumped to see what Anthony does. John, what do you 948 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: have on the docket today in the Chronicle and upcoming 949 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: this week to look forward to, I'm writing a column 950 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: about Jen Reid, the rookie cop, rookie corner who can 951 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: take a computer apart and put it back together. He 952 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: built his own computer in high school from parts and 953 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: is an electrical engineering and computer science major, and the 954 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: rookie who is the farthest ahead. According to Bill O'Brien, 955 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson's writing about Charles and many who will have 956 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: things about Jack Cunningham. And we'll have things the rest 957 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: of the week. And I appreciate you guys having me 958 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: on it as always. Appreciate you joining us. John, Like always, 959 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: you have the info that nobody else can get. Like 960 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: I said, you had this info about a couple of 961 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Now, just to make your prophecy completely fulfilled, 962 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 1: we need to Shaun Watson's deal done. Any about eleven days. 963 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: You got to eleven days. You're on the clock, John, 964 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully we get it done. But appreciate you joining the 965 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: show and we'll talk to you soon. Be safe out there, man, 966 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: So man, Yeah, that's that's John McClean. General John McClean 967 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: joined us on s right the sixteen of Texans Training 968 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: Camp Special presented by Xfinity, and I tell you what 969 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: and Zach Cunningham getting a deal done. Now, I think 970 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: that's a It's a definitely a plus move by the 971 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: Texans being proactive on getting one of your young players locked. 972 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: The way, there's been guys that have gotten out of 973 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: this building that I was I was definitely disappointed about. 974 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: Jack Cunningham is one of those guys that I've been 975 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: standing on the table for the longest now like this 976 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: is the guy we need to get a deal done, 977 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: and they got it done. So I'm happy about that. 978 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we talked about it the other day. 979 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: I was on the show with Ron and show Hugli 980 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: was filling in for Clint Sterner when the hurricane was 981 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,800 Speaker 1: in the path of Houston. We were talking about it 982 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: and Ron was saying, you know what, I feel like 983 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: that this move by the Texans that would be to 984 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: sign Zach Cunningham would be one of the best moves 985 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: that Bill O'Brien has made in his tenure as far 986 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,720 Speaker 1: as locking up a big time player, a young player. 987 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: And so Tom would tell but I tend to agree 988 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: with him. I expect big things that a Zach Cunningham. 989 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: I expect them to have a big year this year, 990 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: and you look at the numbers at the linebacker position. 991 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you asked John about this, about 992 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: the fact that but Narja McKinney he's making, you know, 993 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: ten million this year. When you look at what Whitney's 994 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: getting and what Zach is getting, now it looks like 995 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: but Narchi is actually somewhat of a bargain. Would you 996 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: have thought that when you initially just looked at the 997 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: deals that were getting done at the linebacker spot. No, 998 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: I was surprised looking at his deal. I guess annually 999 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: is getting about ten million a year for inside backer, 1000 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, okay, I'm thinking he's getting around what's 1001 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: Zach guy fourteen maybe thirteen prib somewhere in there. He's 1002 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: getting ten million a year and he's playing at the 1003 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: extremely high level. And that right there to me as 1004 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: a bargain so we can keep both those guys as 1005 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 1: long as possible together. I think they got great value 1006 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: for Zach Cunningham today. Now I think he's going to 1007 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: be a key piece, a key piece for this Texas defense. Yeah, 1008 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I mean. I wouldn't be surprised 1009 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: if there was something done with McKinney. Not this year, 1010 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: of course, but in the near future, just because it's 1011 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: still one position. You got about I don't know, somewhere 1012 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 1: around forty fifty million dollars locked up in or about 1013 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: about thirty five million dollars locked up between three guys. Yeah, 1014 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a big number. Thirty eight million locked 1015 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: up between three guys, that's a big number. I don't 1016 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, especially in John mcclaim mentioned a minute ago. 1017 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: The cap is going down next year, and so at 1018 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,399 Speaker 1: best it's going to stay the same. I think that's 1019 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 1: what they worked out with the CBA to try to 1020 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: keep it the same. But the revenue is going to 1021 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: be nowhere near what it was supposed to be due 1022 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: to the coronavirus, due to the fact that the way 1023 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: that the CBA is set up between the players in 1024 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: the league is it's truly a revenue sharing situation, and 1025 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: the players get I believe it's forty eight point six 1026 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: forty eight point five percent of the revenues, and the 1027 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: revenues are going to be down across the board just 1028 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 1: because there's not going to be fans in the stands, 1029 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: and if they are, it's gonna be very limited amount. 1030 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: So I would be surprised. 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Sports Radio six ten Houston Texans Breaking News. 1151 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: The breaking news, of course, is that Zach Huntingham, linebacker 1152 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans, has been signed to a four year, 1153 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: fifty eight million dollars extension and so now we'll have 1154 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Zach Huntingham here for the Texans for the next five seasons. 1155 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: This news was supported by Aaron Rappaport and Tom Pellicero 1156 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's also being reported by Aaron Wilson with 1157 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: a Houston Chronicle. We just talked to John McClain about 1158 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: at the last segment here on the Texans Training Camp 1159 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Special presented by Xfinity. I'm Wade Smith, my guy seesil shorts, 1160 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: two former Houston Texans, holding you guys down at six 1161 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: o'clock in. We'll be joined soon by Mark Vandermuir, the 1162 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: voice of the Texans. But before we get to Mark, Man, 1163 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 1: I just tell you what we were just looking over 1164 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 1: online about some of the costumes last year that Zach 1165 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Cunningham was the catalyst behind putting putting together. Yeah, so 1166 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 1: we enterviewed him last year on the station, and you 1167 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 1: would he would be the last guy that you would 1168 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: think because he's so quiet. He really is not a 1169 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: guy that's looking forward to talking to the media, but 1170 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: he is. He's a creative dude behind the scenes. He 1171 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's the one that comes up with the ideas. 1172 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Last year, those guys are coming into the game days 1173 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 1: as a swat team as the average Joe's from dodge Ball, 1174 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: of from Ninja Turtles, more to Kombat. Like some of 1175 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: the stuff that he put out there, I felt like, 1176 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: like Zach klenning him must have an older brother or 1177 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: sister or something, because a lot of the stuff that 1178 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 1: he was putting out there was stuff that I could 1179 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: really identify with, stuff that I really enjoyed. And so, 1180 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm definitely much older than Zach cunning him, 1181 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: and so I was just like, man, either he's an 1182 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: old soul per se, or he has he has a 1183 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: sibling that can kind of help him, you know, recognize 1184 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: the greatness of more to Kombat than Ninja, Turtles and 1185 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: and Dodgeballs, Space Jam, you know what I mean? Like 1186 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't He probably wasn't. Was he even 1187 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: alive when Space Jam came out? Space came out when 1188 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: he was young. I don't even know text that in 1189 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: seven one, five, seven two, four sixt In what year 1190 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: did Space Jams pop out? I'm not gonna google that 1191 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: because I know my text line to show out for me, 1192 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Ocho might be the first one to pop in. But 1193 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I tell you what, man like that creativity. It's fun 1194 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 1: to watch a lot of people. When the Texans would lose, 1195 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the people would be like, oh man, they're not play 1196 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: But for the most part, when they was doing these costumes, 1197 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what the record ended up being, but 1198 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: I think I think they were like five and three, 1199 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 1: six and two or something like that when they brought 1200 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: the whatever it was. They were like three or four 1201 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: games above five hundred when they were the costume. So 1202 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 1: I was a fan just because it was showing creativity 1203 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: and those guys were together and doing something. I liked 1204 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: that and it was it was it was interesting, but 1205 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: uh yeah they caught some heat when when you would 1206 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: catch that ill. But that's the part for the course. 1207 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: It makes it fun, you know, it's something for the 1208 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: guys to look forward to. Was something that, like you said, 1209 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: they can show that creative aside and it's something nobody 1210 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: else was doing in the league. So it was just 1211 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: the Texans, if I'm not mistaken. It was just them 1212 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: doing it this the linebackers here and it's creative against 1213 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 1: them talking about each other. So and I like the 1214 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 1: different styles they had. Space Jam probably is my favorite. 1215 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: This the tune Squad. I grew up watching that, but 1216 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: it was it was dope in my opinion, no question 1217 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 1: about it. We're now being joined by Texans voice Mark 1218 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 1: vander Meer on the line. Mark, how are you doing 1219 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: on this Sunday afternoon and what is your initial thoughts 1220 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: on this new deal by Zach Cunningham. Well, I was 1221 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: just hoping they could get it done. You know, there's 1222 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 1: an old saying in sales, sold is one hundred percent unsold, 1223 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 1: So still have to get Watson done. But you got 1224 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Cunningham done, and Laramie got done earlier in the offseason, 1225 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: and I was kind of sweating that one out a 1226 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, I thought, Wow, what if Laramie 1227 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: doesn't sign and then you traded what you did for him, 1228 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: and you know what's gonna happen in the future. So 1229 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: I was so happy they got him done. Cunningham. When 1230 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: you look at Cunningham and McKinney in the middle, especially 1231 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: with Cunningham being more than a run defender, you know, 1232 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: he's a multiple stopper. He can stop you in a 1233 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 1: variety of ways. He can cover. He's made some big hits, 1234 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: big stops for this football team. Very well dressed, as 1235 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,439 Speaker 1: you said, but that's secondary. I really like it, guys. 1236 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 1: I think this is one of those Texans for Life 1237 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: kind of guys or Texan for life kind of guys 1238 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: that you just want around, you want on your football team. 1239 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,959 Speaker 1: He might, you know, have the Zach Cunningham Show every week. Okay, 1240 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: he's not gonna he's not gonna dazzle you on the 1241 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 1: airwaves necessarily. I think he can. You know, we've had 1242 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: some really good interviews with him, but he prefers to 1243 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: be quiet in that way. He prefers to let his 1244 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: wardrobe to the talking a little bit more. Maybe at 1245 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: his play do the most talking, But I'm very glad. 1246 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you can lock up players 1247 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: like this, it just helps your football team. They always 1248 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 1: say it, you know, they want to have the guys 1249 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 1: around who exemplify the dependable, tough, smart acronym that they 1250 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: have going. And he's one of them, for sure. That's 1251 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: awesome lad league in tackles last year, definitely him and 1252 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: McKinney one of the better duos in the league of 1253 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: linebackers for sure. Talk about the scrimmage on Thursday, What 1254 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: were your thoughts? How did you enjoy it? And then 1255 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: how are the players? How did they react to it? 1256 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: How did they take it today? Take it seriously? Was 1257 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: it fun for him to talk about that a little bit? Well, 1258 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: I think being in the building, guys you know this. 1259 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine not having been through a 1260 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: game day experience, even if you don't play much in 1261 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: a preseason game, there's just something about the warm up, 1262 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: you know. I think people take for granted how choreographed 1263 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 1: the warm up is and going into the locker room 1264 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: then coming back out being introduced all of it in 1265 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: a preseason format, even if you don't play much. Well, 1266 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 1: they hadn't had any of that, all right, And here 1267 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: we are in preseason week three as of Thursday night, 1268 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: and it was finally time to take the field. And 1269 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really think that much of it going in. 1270 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I thought, all right, here we go scrimmage and other practice. 1271 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: It'll be good, let's go check it out. But there 1272 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: was just something about being at the stadium at night, 1273 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 1: lights on music thumping. I just felt the vibe. And 1274 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: I probably gush about things like this way too much, 1275 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: but look, this is sports, this is fun, it's entertainment. 1276 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: And I was entertained just the beginning of it, just 1277 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 1: being around these guys, seeing them on the football field. 1278 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 1: And then when they got to playing, you saw Deshaun 1279 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: Watson able to do what Deshaun Watson does in this offense, 1280 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: which has hit multiple receiver, They have a lot of 1281 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,439 Speaker 1: different looks they can throw at you. We saw all 1282 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff and they quickly dialed it down. 1283 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 1: It reminded me of maybe a first preseason game kind 1284 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 1: of thing where you saw the arsenal for a while 1285 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: or for you know, for a taste, and then they 1286 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: started putting other guys in you see Chad Hanson. Not 1287 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 1: to take anything away from Chad, but I don't anticipate 1288 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Chad being one of your top two receivers out there 1289 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: when you play against the Kansas City Chiefs. So they 1290 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: went into the depth chart, even with Watson still in 1291 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,800 Speaker 1: the game a little bit. And I think that it 1292 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: was interesting to go ones against the twos on both sides, 1293 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: right the defense ones facing the offense twos and vice versa. 1294 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: Just to give yourselves And I didn't talk to Bill 1295 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 1: O'Brien about this, but my gut is just to give 1296 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: them a different look, different people. You know, different guys 1297 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: you're going up against, and you guys have been through 1298 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So I really enjoyed being 1299 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: in there, and I know they'll do it one more time. 1300 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll have the media there for this 1301 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 1: next one, that it'll be more of a dress rehearsal 1302 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: for opening night, but these things are absolutely necessary before 1303 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 1: you take on the chief September tenth, Mark who was 1304 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 1: some of those guys that you know, And I like 1305 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: the way that they did that where you had the 1306 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 1: ones versus the twos, but to me, it puts the 1307 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: twos in a position to where if they can actually 1308 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: go out there and make some plays as a two 1309 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: against the starting group, that that that that makes you 1310 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 1: there's going to give them more confidence, but it gives 1311 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 1: the team confidence that they can go out there and 1312 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: do it on a Sunday when they when they might 1313 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 1: possibly be needed. Were there any guys that stood out 1314 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 1: to you in the scrimmage that were there were twos 1315 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: going against starters that actually either held their own but 1316 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,479 Speaker 1: or made plays that said made you think like, oh, okay, 1317 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: this is somebody that we actually can ride with. Well. 1318 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 1: A J. Moore looked like a one to me. Okay, 1319 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: he looked like the kind of guy that you could 1320 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 1: play guts of the game's safety snaps and feel very 1321 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: good about it. You know. And I know that Murray's 1322 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 1: been having a nice camp and everything. They've said good 1323 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: things about him, but you know, there's no butt really, 1324 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Murray has done that and A. J. Moore 1325 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 1: has looked good. I mean, he really made some nice 1326 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: plays in the scrimmage on Thursday night. I would put 1327 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: him in that group. Johnny has talked about Chad Hanson 1328 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: a bunch, and you know, we were out with Watson 1329 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: in the offseason. We've talked about him this camp, but 1330 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 1: he continues to look good out there as a wide receiver. 1331 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I can't evaluate line play, and I don't know how 1332 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: you guys feel, but one thing I can't really evaluate, 1333 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: and maybe they feel the same way as coaches and 1334 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,880 Speaker 1: players alike. It's the run game. Is it good? Is 1335 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 1: it not good? Is your run defense good? Is your 1336 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 1: run defense porus? You know, you can't tell out there 1337 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 1: unless you're really going for the win. You know, I 1338 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: like it at too boxers. Right, if you're sparring, you 1339 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 1: know you're not gonna you know, you're not earning the 1340 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: paycheck and the sparring session, right, You're not. That's it's 1341 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: not a gotta have it kind of thing, a sparring session, 1342 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 1: And I think the same thing applies with football. Right 1343 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: when you're practicing your run game against your teammates on defense, 1344 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, how how much oom are you gonna put 1345 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 1: into it? Wade? You know, how how are you going 1346 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 1: to you know, level the other guy that you have 1347 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: to level in order to get some gain on the ground. 1348 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 1: And the same thing applies to the defense. You know, 1349 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 1: how much are you putting into a tackle where you 1350 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 1: can't really tackle stud it's wrap up, it's whatever. So 1351 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 1: I can't tell. I assume they're gonna run the ball 1352 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: pretty well because they always do. I can't tell if 1353 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: the run defense is a lot better because of what 1354 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 1: I just described. What are your thoughts on that weight 1355 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 1: as I say that? So this is the thing, man, 1356 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 1: You're you're going to see a night and day difference 1357 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,840 Speaker 1: between the intensity and finish out of guys and what 1358 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna see at a from from going from a 1359 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:34,599 Speaker 1: scrimmage at NRG to playing opening night at Arrowheads Stadium. 1360 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,919 Speaker 1: Up front, the trenches are gonna get a lot nastier. 1361 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 1: There's gonna be guys finishing blocks, there's gonna be cut blocks, 1362 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 1: there's gonna be things going on that you would never 1363 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,560 Speaker 1: do in practice. And so the thing that makes you 1364 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 1: have a little bit of concern is because they haven't 1365 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: done anything live at all this preseason. The double team 1366 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 1: blocks getting up to the second letter level, and the 1367 01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 1: timing of the running backs. You got a new running 1368 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 1: back and David Johnson. You know, Duke has been with 1369 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 1: this group before. He knows, he knows his guys in 1370 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 1: front of him. So I don't think it would be 1371 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,719 Speaker 1: as big of an issue early on with Duke Johnson 1372 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: at all. I think it'll just be old hat with him. 1373 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: But with David Johnson, it's a new running back. The 1374 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,759 Speaker 1: timing is with different offensive lines and different running schemes, 1375 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 1: timing is just a little bit different. And so that's 1376 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: something that that you know it's gonna be a little 1377 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 1: bit different on Thursday than which you would get in 1378 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 1: a scrimmage. And it might be for the good because 1379 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 1: David Johnson has looked very good in the preseason so 1380 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: far in this training camp. But at the same time, 1381 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 1: when those double teams hit in the game, if they're 1382 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 1: good double teams and they're getting to the second level, 1383 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: those holes might be a little bit bigger than what 1384 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: David Johnson might be used to getting in practice. And 1385 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: so you would hope it's that way, but it wouldn't 1386 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,680 Speaker 1: surprise me one bit if it went the other way, 1387 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 1: because timing is critical and key when you're talking about 1388 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 1: a Baptist has to use his vision and making sure 1389 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 1: he's getting foot in the ground and hitting the hole, 1390 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 1: and so you know, until you do it full speed, 1391 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 1: you just don't know how it's going to work out. 1392 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: Up front. Yeah, I can imagine, because don't people always 1393 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: say that even with preseason reps and joint practice reps, 1394 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,720 Speaker 1: when you get into the regular season, it takes three 1395 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: four games to really know what you've got with the 1396 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 1: offensive line, until you guys really get into rhythm. I 1397 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 1: think the offensive line is you know, we talk about it. 1398 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: It might not be the most sexy thing to discuss 1399 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,560 Speaker 1: in sports talk radio, but there's so much to it. 1400 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: I remember Dwayne telling me it took them three or 1401 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 1: four years to figure things out. And you know, Wade, 1402 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 1: I know your experience. You know, played a dozen years 1403 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: in this league, multiple positions on the old line. It 1404 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 1: is so technical. There's so much to it, and it 1405 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 1: doesn't exactly end up on Sports Center in the top 1406 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,600 Speaker 1: ten right. When you guys do your thing properly, you 1407 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 1: might see the results of that, but you don't see 1408 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 1: look at a footwork of the left yard on this play, unbelievable. 1409 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 1: You know you don't see stuff like that. Hey, Mark, 1410 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It gets real sexy looking when 1411 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line does their job and you're seeing Cook's 1412 01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: catching touchdown passes and full of catching touchdown passes and 1413 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,719 Speaker 1: Deshan sitting back there patting the ball looking for people 1414 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 1: that are opened downfield, and the Johnson brothers hitting the hole. 1415 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 1: It starts to get real sexy then. But yeah, talking 1416 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 1: about what we do in the mushroom society, it ain't 1417 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: much room. It's it's not it's not for the fan 1418 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 1: of heart. It gets a little it gets a little 1419 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 1: griming down there, and that's not We love it. That's 1420 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 1: how we're like it. Man, Well what do you make 1421 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 1: of They have this yeah dog? Have you heard this? 1422 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: So whenever one of them doesn't interview, they have to 1423 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: say yeah dog right at the start of it somewhere 1424 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 1: to avoid the fine. So they've come up with a 1425 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 1: loophole to avoid fines by going yeah dog. That's their 1426 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,639 Speaker 1: sort of code. Yeah, they get yeah dog out there. 1427 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,720 Speaker 1: The publicity of such a phrase, Uh, they don't have 1428 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 1: to pay the fine. I tell you what, as the 1429 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: former judge of the offensive line of my four year 1430 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: here with the Texans, I would have never allowed a 1431 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 1: rule like that to come into place. I'm not mad 1432 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 1: at that rule. If you if you can figure out 1433 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,479 Speaker 1: a way to get out of saving yourself some money 1434 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: and keep yourself from getting fined by because we had 1435 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: a we had a fine system within the offensive line, 1436 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: and I know with devil explain and we gotta get 1437 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 1: we're up against it. I can we can talk. We 1438 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 1: can talk to because it goes in debt. 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Don't get blindsided like some of the 1533 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 1: quarterbacks I faced, but his latest news and exclusive interviews. 1534 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 1: Download the Houston Texans mobile app and listen to Texans Radio. 1535 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Texans Training Camps Special presented by Exfinity. 1536 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm Wade Smith, joined by Cecil Shorts, and we have 1537 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,600 Speaker 1: the voice of the Houston Texans, Mark Vandermere, on the 1538 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 1: line with us right now, and we were talking about 1539 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 1: it before the break. Cecil asked the question. He wanted 1540 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 1: to get a kind of an insight on the offensive 1541 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,680 Speaker 1: line room and how the fine schedule works and how 1542 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: it's set up. And when I was with the Texans, 1543 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,400 Speaker 1: it was already in place. It started way back in 1544 01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 1: the day with the Denver Broncos, back in the Shanahan 1545 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 1: and and Uh Kubiak days when they were back winning 1546 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, back with John Elway and those guys. It 1547 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 1: started back then. It traveled down traditionally, U through through 1548 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,760 Speaker 1: different various teams, and by the time I got here, 1549 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, there was a vote and I was voted 1550 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 1: as the judge. And when when Mark brought When Mark 1551 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,679 Speaker 1: brought up. The whole idea of these guys just saying 1552 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,280 Speaker 1: how did to do is say yeah, dog to get 1553 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 1: out of paying a fine. As a judge, my job 1554 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 1: was to try to get the numbers up with the 1555 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: money so that we could use it at some point 1556 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, Like after the seasons off, 1557 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 1: we go on an old line trip. We would go 1558 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 1: to Vegas sometimes depending on what team you're on. And 1559 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 1: this is this is something very common around the NFL 1560 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,599 Speaker 1: to offensive linement. They'll have a fine schedule to where 1561 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,599 Speaker 1: you could get fined for passing gas in the meeting. 1562 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 1: You can get fined for can class if you if 1563 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: you make a play on film or you make a 1564 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,600 Speaker 1: mistake and you clap your hands that all attach you 1565 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 1: you know X amount of dollars and so you know 1566 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: it could be anything from that too. If you're late 1567 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 1: to a meeting, contract conduct detrimental to the team. And 1568 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,360 Speaker 1: this is not talking about like you know, macro level. 1569 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 1: You know you might get you might get fired by 1570 01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 1: the team because you did something bad. It's hey, you 1571 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,559 Speaker 1: did something that was conduct detrimental to the offensive line 1572 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,360 Speaker 1: in our brand, and so you get fined. And so 1573 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 1: I just found it interesting that, you know, those guys 1574 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 1: figured out a way to beat the system if you 1575 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,519 Speaker 1: just if you do, because you would get fined for 1576 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 1: doing media interviews like Duwayne Brown hasn't had his own show, 1577 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 1: And we figured out a text like we were like 1578 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 1: the government, we taxed you if he made five hundred 1579 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:01,240 Speaker 1: dollars a show, we got you know, twenty five percent, 1580 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,479 Speaker 1: and that went to the to the to the group. 1581 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 1: That's what we did. So I just I thought that 1582 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: was interesting that these guys came up with a way 1583 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 1: to get out of having to pay that fine and 1584 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 1: just start the thing with yeah dog, just because you 1585 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 1: told me that, Mark, We're gonna have to make sure 1586 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:21,519 Speaker 1: we interview as many offensive line as possible season just 1587 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: so we can hear the yeah dog m on there. 1588 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,600 Speaker 1: And and Deviling is the offensive line coach there. He 1589 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 1: was the offensive line coach or assistant coach when I 1590 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,360 Speaker 1: was in with the Jets, and we had a legitimate 1591 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:37,160 Speaker 1: fine board there too. Devon was actually on the fine schedule. 1592 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 1: You know, there's different fines that they come up with. 1593 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,759 Speaker 1: Like I said, it could be for passing gas whatever. 1594 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: Devlin he had a final and I actually have this 1595 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 1: piece of paper at my house. I was going through 1596 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: some old playbooks and stuff and old like notes that 1597 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,080 Speaker 1: I had taken from various teams, and I just happened 1598 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 1: to seem like, oh, this is the fine schedule when 1599 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: I was with the Jets in two thousand and seven, 1600 01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,280 Speaker 1: and look on their Devil and it says if Devlin 1601 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: stands up in front of the group lifts up his 1602 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 1: shirt and rubs scratches his belly so that we can 1603 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 1: see it, it costs Devlin fifty bucks. So we were 1604 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 1: finding that he did a lot. It had to be 1605 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,880 Speaker 1: all actually need to be something on the board, but 1606 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 1: the fact that he was a good sport about that, 1607 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,879 Speaker 1: it's understandable that those guys do have to find schedules 1608 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,320 Speaker 1: still and the tradition is still going in and that's 1609 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,600 Speaker 1: that's good to hear. And is this information that you 1610 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,559 Speaker 1: were privy two Mark? Is this something that you knew 1611 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,040 Speaker 1: about or are you learning on learning about this as 1612 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: we go. I didn't know that it was a percentage 1613 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 1: on show fee, because you know, we did that show 1614 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 1: with Twayne for I don't know, three maybe four years, 1615 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 1: so he was giving you guys a lot of money 1616 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,719 Speaker 1: for that. He was negotiating a nice rate for himself 1617 01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 1: of that show just to pay the Old Line tax, 1618 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 1: no question, And the first year the tax wasn't there. 1619 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 1: But as the judge, I had to make sure that 1620 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,759 Speaker 1: we had a great time when we went to Vegas, 1621 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 1: so we had to negotiate some things. So there's like, 1622 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 1: wait a minute, you have a show. He didn't have 1623 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,360 Speaker 1: a show in twenty teen. I don't think he got 1624 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 1: to show into like twenty eleven or twenty twelve. Even 1625 01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, for sure you had a show. And it 1626 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 1: was like, nah, man, you can't be getting paid all 1627 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,920 Speaker 1: this money and the group not benefit from it. So 1628 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,760 Speaker 1: we had to put that tax together man, and you 1629 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,600 Speaker 1: know what it was. He was a good sport about it, 1630 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 1: and you knew that the money was going to a 1631 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,280 Speaker 1: good place. There's a lot of memories, a lot of 1632 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: things that I remember, a lot of things that I 1633 01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,560 Speaker 1: won't ever remember from our time to day because we 1634 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 1: had had a great time. But like I said, the 1635 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 1: money while I went to a good place. The Old 1636 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 1: Line and the d B's are usually the most interesting 1637 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,240 Speaker 1: groups to me on every team I've been on. Yeah, 1638 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 1: it's crazy, well, how creative, how different, different different ways 1639 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,760 Speaker 1: we think and go about things, and then the money 1640 01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 1: you guys spend to eat, the money you guys spend 1641 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:46,720 Speaker 1: to go on. That's one thing about this season that 1642 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,519 Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be very disappointing for 1643 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 1: the guys is I don't know if they're going to 1644 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,560 Speaker 1: be able to do the Thursday night dinners like you 1645 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 1: would normally do because you got the coronavirus and you 1646 01:23:58,320 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, if we can get a vACC 1647 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: seen in the next month or so, maybe that'll change. 1648 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 1: But that was something I was thinking about the sauce 1649 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,680 Speaker 1: scenes and like the things that you're so used to 1650 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,679 Speaker 1: doing in the way they're used to being, that's something 1651 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,960 Speaker 1: that I couldn't expect to be the same way this year. 1652 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,880 Speaker 1: Those guys have done an excellent job of monitoring themselves 1653 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 1: and putting themselves not putting themselves in bad situation, and 1654 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,640 Speaker 1: just be surprised if that would be the case that 1655 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: they'd actually do it the same way they always do. 1656 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,720 Speaker 1: I think, if you've got a big room, maybe at 1657 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: a restaurant or something, and maybe the restaurant would love 1658 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,479 Speaker 1: the business, you know, like we'll give you your own 1659 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,760 Speaker 1: area since we're not even opening the dining room or 1660 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,720 Speaker 1: something like that. Making a private of that. Who knows 1661 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 1: how they could do it, but you wanting to get 1662 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 1: the numbers up cracks me up. You're like one of 1663 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,720 Speaker 1: those cops in the speed traps, you know, like I'm 1664 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna hide behind the bushes here because everyone always goes 1665 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,439 Speaker 1: fast here, you know, pull everybody over, give the tickets. 1666 01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,880 Speaker 1: It's the quota system. I love this. I love that 1667 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed yourselves that way. So I'll get more info. 1668 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,839 Speaker 1: And I know you guys are gonna do some interviews 1669 01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 1: as a season progresses here, but we'll see. I mean, 1670 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,760 Speaker 1: the conference have got to be pretty bare, you know, 1671 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,719 Speaker 1: if they're if they can get out of these fines 1672 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,639 Speaker 1: this way, yeah, man, I tell you what, man, They're 1673 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out something. And I don't know 1674 01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,240 Speaker 1: what they do with their money. I don't know what 1675 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 1: they do with the money. Some some teams. I was 1676 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs and we used to give our money 1677 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 1: to charity at the end of the year. That was 1678 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 1: a Brian Waters deal where he was like, we donated 1679 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 1: the money to By the time I got to Houston, 1680 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,800 Speaker 1: those guys like, no, we go to Vegas and we 1681 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 1: have a good time and all these are all good things. 1682 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,800 Speaker 1: You know, some things are more notable and noble than others, 1683 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,799 Speaker 1: but they all ended up being good times for people involved. 1684 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 1: But that that's kind of a little bit into the 1685 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the fines of offensive line room 1686 01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,680 Speaker 1: mark um training camps officially overcorrect. Ye, what are some 1687 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 1: of your biggest takeaways from this historic because I believe 1688 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,680 Speaker 1: it is a historic historic training camp this year? Uh, 1689 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 1: good question. I think you know, Watson's always number one 1690 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 1: to me. You know, I've been through a lot of 1691 01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Texans training camps and the quarterbackian we all know, is 1692 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,639 Speaker 1: the most important position on the team, and I think 1693 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 1: that this is something we cannot take for granted that 1694 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,080 Speaker 1: we have Deshaun Watson in our city playing football. You know, 1695 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,560 Speaker 1: I felt that way about Andrey Johnson. You know, I 1696 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,720 Speaker 1: felt that way about Wade Smith and Cecil Shorts. No, 1697 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,000 Speaker 1: but seriously, when you have but not that I'm not 1698 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,479 Speaker 1: serious about you, very kind, but when you have you know, 1699 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,400 Speaker 1: one of the great ones wide receiver, Andrey Johnson. I 1700 01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,880 Speaker 1: always reminded myself, hey, take this in, and I tried 1701 01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,479 Speaker 1: to remind the fans take this in because a player 1702 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 1: like this doesn't come along every day. Not everybody has 1703 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,160 Speaker 1: one of these kinds of guys. Same thing with hop 1704 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 1: Right now you have Watson, you have this elite quarterback. 1705 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,400 Speaker 1: Let's enjoy and let's watch him develop. It's only year 1706 01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: four and it's only his third full season. Let's knock 1707 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,800 Speaker 1: wood full season that he's gonna play. He's only played 1708 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 1: two full seasons in this league. But you can see 1709 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,040 Speaker 1: the maturation process. You can see that he's definitely better 1710 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 1: in practice than he was previously. Not that he was ever, 1711 01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,559 Speaker 1: you know, bad, but you could see improvement and it's 1712 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 1: going to look different. I think that, you know, not 1713 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,920 Speaker 1: having Hopkins was obviously a huge theme of this offseason, 1714 01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 1: who they added and how they were going to look 1715 01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,200 Speaker 1: on the field once they got on the field. Now, 1716 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,639 Speaker 1: we haven't seen it in the games yet, but in practice, 1717 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 1: you could see that the portfolio has been diversified. You 1718 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: have different weapons, different things to do. You have everywhere 1719 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,880 Speaker 1: you look there's somewhere to throw the football, someone to 1720 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 1: throw it too, and they might have a completely different 1721 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 1: skill set than the next guy. Where it could. You know, 1722 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,400 Speaker 1: the tight end group is obviously different from the receiver group. 1723 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 1: We all get that, but within the tight end group 1724 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 1: you have differences of style, and within the receiver group 1725 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 1: very different. I think Cobb is going to be huge 1726 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 1: for Watson, he's such a great route runner, huge for 1727 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 1: him on third down. I think Cooks, that's another guy 1728 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,600 Speaker 1: that jumped out to me. He had a couple of 1729 01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,719 Speaker 1: practices that were just ipoppers where you just thought, oh wow, 1730 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 1: you know he is one of those guys at receiver. 1731 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the best receivers in the league. 1732 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, when he's out there healthy doing his thing, 1733 01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,960 Speaker 1: you could protect the quarterback. Cooks is one of the 1734 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 1: better receivers in the nf FELL I don't think there's 1735 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 1: any question about it. But how about this in the scrimmage, 1736 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,680 Speaker 1: just a few plays from Fuller, and I was thinking, oh, 1737 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,599 Speaker 1: that's nice. Just just rest him till opening day, please. 1738 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, you we forget sometimes, you know, we talk 1739 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,320 Speaker 1: about it, but when you see it, you forget how 1740 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,479 Speaker 1: good Fuller is. And it's not just a Burner kind 1741 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,799 Speaker 1: of good at wide receiver. It's route running, it's change 1742 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 1: of direction very quickly, it's all of those things. So 1743 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,400 Speaker 1: those things too, that to me offensively and I think 1744 01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,519 Speaker 1: defensively Cecil. It's interesting you mentioned the defensive backfield because 1745 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 1: I agree that is such a tight position group, and 1746 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,639 Speaker 1: this thing's been overhauled in the last couple of years. 1747 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you think two years ago you got Kareem 1748 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,240 Speaker 1: and Jjoe and everything, and now Justin Reid is kind 1749 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 1: of the og and he's in year three, you know, now, 1750 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know Roby's been around, but it's only 1751 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,840 Speaker 1: a second year on the team. Reads the beginning year 1752 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,400 Speaker 1: three and you look around that group and it's a 1753 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 1: lot of new guys and some that you picked up 1754 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,599 Speaker 1: along the way last year, so it feels like they've 1755 01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: been here, but they really haven't even been here that long. 1756 01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,599 Speaker 1: So watching the development of that group has been interesting. 1757 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,599 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a lot better this year. 1758 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,360 Speaker 1: I really think they're gonna make a ton of plays. 1759 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, there's a question that I 1760 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,080 Speaker 1: gotta ask, and we'll have to get it on the 1761 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 1: other side, But will this season set a record in 1762 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,759 Speaker 1: one of the most unconventional way possible? 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I'm Waite Smith joined by Seasi Shorts, 1853 01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 1: the voice of the Houston Texas, Mark Vandermer on a 1854 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,479 Speaker 1: line with us now and before the break, I felt 1855 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:01,080 Speaker 1: like that we're going to break a record this season 1856 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,040 Speaker 1: and one of the most unconventional ways possible, and not 1857 01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,600 Speaker 1: just with the Houston Texans, but throughout the NFL. And 1858 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,280 Speaker 1: but 'brian had some comments that we said an oppressive 1859 01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,960 Speaker 1: I think kind of co sign how I'm looking at 1860 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,640 Speaker 1: how this season is going to go. Basically, when you 1861 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,640 Speaker 1: guys are out in practice, I would say, like, you know, 1862 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,680 Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, this is our team, right. 1863 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean you've got eighty guys, You've got you know, 1864 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,400 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna have fifty three plus sixteen, so you 1865 01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,960 Speaker 1: know you're talking about maybe ten spots there that um. 1866 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:37,639 Speaker 1: But you know, again, there's different you know, different avenues 1867 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,680 Speaker 1: because of the roster flexibility that's in place this year. 1868 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:43,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, I like the guys that are on 1869 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,120 Speaker 1: our team. You know, I think from top to bottom, 1870 01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,200 Speaker 1: these guys have really poured everything they've had into a 1871 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 1: into a weird year. I mean, think about it, right, 1872 01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,920 Speaker 1: they come in every morning, they get tested for the coronavirus, 1873 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,760 Speaker 1: and they then they gotta you know, then they go 1874 01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,200 Speaker 1: to lift, then they they go to meetings and then 1875 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,360 Speaker 1: walk throughs, and then they practice. Then we go home 1876 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,800 Speaker 1: and we zoom me. I mean we we actually like 1877 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:07,920 Speaker 1: we zoom me. I mean think about that for a second, 1878 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, like so like we this is a different year, right, 1879 01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:15,400 Speaker 1: And I just really for me, there there's definitely an 1880 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,120 Speaker 1: attachment to a lot of these guys because I believe 1881 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,560 Speaker 1: that they've done everything that I've asked them to do. 1882 01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,000 Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, like when you're out 1883 01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:24,960 Speaker 1: there a practice like I know you are every day, 1884 01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,479 Speaker 1: aren't you're looking at our team now, how we use 1885 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 1: guys and do different things. You know that'll be game 1886 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,599 Speaker 1: plan wise, but you know, of course we could always 1887 01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,040 Speaker 1: do you know, obviously we've done some things over the 1888 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,720 Speaker 1: last couple of years, brought some guys in, move some 1889 01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,680 Speaker 1: guys out. But you know, I think you're looking at 1890 01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,639 Speaker 1: the majority of the players on our practice field. That's 1891 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:48,960 Speaker 1: our team. When I hear Bill O'Brien make those comments, 1892 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,400 Speaker 1: it co signs my line of thinking that this year 1893 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,479 Speaker 1: we're going to set a record with the Texans and 1894 01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 1: with the NFL in general, with the least amount of 1895 01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:01,360 Speaker 1: movement in transactions over the course of the season. When 1896 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,719 Speaker 1: you're talking about moving guys from one team to another, 1897 01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:09,880 Speaker 1: when you got the coronavirus going on, and gaining trust 1898 01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,479 Speaker 1: with guys in your locker room to do things the 1899 01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:16,880 Speaker 1: right way. These coaches we talked about earlier in the show, 1900 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,080 Speaker 1: coaches won a game. They want the players to gain 1901 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 1: their trust, and once they gain it, they're not gonna 1902 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,560 Speaker 1: let those guys out the building if they can help it. 1903 01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:31,320 Speaker 1: And so to me, you know, normally roster spot forty 1904 01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,240 Speaker 1: seven through fifty three, you know what I mean, forty 1905 01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 1: nine through fifty three, those are changing a bunch throughout 1906 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,599 Speaker 1: the season. I think you're gonna see the least amount 1907 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,880 Speaker 1: of movement than what we've ever seen in the modern 1908 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:47,200 Speaker 1: day area era of professional football due to the fact 1909 01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,760 Speaker 1: that they're gonna take those eighty guys and that's the 1910 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,160 Speaker 1: pool they're gonna draw from to bringing players. I think 1911 01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,240 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very, very a low amount 1912 01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,800 Speaker 1: of guys that are coming from outside in to join 1913 01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,760 Speaker 1: the Houston Texas this year. So it's extremely important that 1914 01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,320 Speaker 1: the Texans did a good enough job, a great job 1915 01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:07,679 Speaker 1: in advance of getting those ninety guys down to eighty 1916 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,280 Speaker 1: guys in the building because those are the guys that 1917 01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:13,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna draw for them throughout the year. Well, I 1918 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,479 Speaker 1: think it's a great point because think about it from 1919 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,759 Speaker 1: multiple angles. Here, they have a sixteen player practice squad 1920 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,559 Speaker 1: and four of those players are protected, so that means 1921 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 1: you have a fifty seven man roster. Basically, I mean, 1922 01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,800 Speaker 1: the guys don't make the fifty three man money. But 1923 01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,479 Speaker 1: they're protected. So to a coach, I've got those guys, 1924 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about them going anywhere unless 1925 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,000 Speaker 1: I want them to go somewhere. That's a tease, though, 1926 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,639 Speaker 1: because then if you had that any other year, you'd 1927 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,400 Speaker 1: be like, oh my gosh, I could pick up some 1928 01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,960 Speaker 1: waiver wire guys. This is gonna be awesome. But they can't. 1929 01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,040 Speaker 1: Well they can, but it's a lot harder. Think about 1930 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,000 Speaker 1: it like this, Nobody in camp has been on a 1931 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:54,360 Speaker 1: commercial jet. Right. If you bring in another guy from whatever, 1932 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,360 Speaker 1: Seattle who they let go and you got to fly 1933 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 1: them in, you know, how does that go coronavirus wise? 1934 01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:02,760 Speaker 1: You know, you have to test him. He's got to 1935 01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,120 Speaker 1: sit for a while. He can't play for you opening day. 1936 01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 1: You know, I remember twenty fourteen, Bill O'Brien makes moves 1937 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,160 Speaker 1: that final Labor Day weekend, and you know Demaris Johnson 1938 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,360 Speaker 1: is starting in the slot on opening day. We didn't 1939 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,080 Speaker 1: even know who he was. You know, they'd been practicing 1940 01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,360 Speaker 1: under you know, cover of darkness. So this was an 1941 01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,400 Speaker 1: unveiling of sorts. And last year, I mean, I don't 1942 01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,760 Speaker 1: think that could happen this year. It could but you'd 1943 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,759 Speaker 1: have to sit the guys on opening day. They wouldn't 1944 01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,800 Speaker 1: be able to practice because of coronavirus. So I think 1945 01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:32,760 Speaker 1: it's a great point you make, Wade. It's hard to 1946 01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,439 Speaker 1: bring guys in and get instant results out of them, 1947 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,759 Speaker 1: instant dividends. And that's why they've made these practice squads bigger. 1948 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 1: And your team is your team. Now that having said that, 1949 01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:44,960 Speaker 1: there will be some movement, but definitely not as much 1950 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,840 Speaker 1: as usual. And you better have done a good job 1951 01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,320 Speaker 1: getting your eighty in here, because this is who you got. 1952 01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,479 Speaker 1: This is who you're gonna dance with at the ball, 1953 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,200 Speaker 1: and you hope that you can ride with them into 1954 01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,559 Speaker 1: the postseason. Every year, in real quick before we get 1955 01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,400 Speaker 1: to our twenty twenty season preview, every year there is 1956 01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:08,280 Speaker 1: a surprise person that makes the team or a surprise 1957 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,560 Speaker 1: cut they who didn't see coming. Let's just think to 1958 01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,840 Speaker 1: the person that makes the team, who do you think 1959 01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,800 Speaker 1: has a good shot? One player that stood at has 1960 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 1: a really good shot of making fitty three rosseters this year? Well, 1961 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,200 Speaker 1: well you know that. I'm like, I'm like Dicky v 1962 01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 1: Dick Fitel. It's awesome, baby. Everybody makes the NCAA tournament 1963 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:27,960 Speaker 1: I got any teams in a sixty five team field 1964 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:32,479 Speaker 1: or whatever, so I'm that guy. But on the D line, 1965 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,759 Speaker 1: I thought there could be some interesting developments here because 1966 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I think ninety nine is gonna make it. 1967 01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,880 Speaker 1: I think there's a pretty good chance of that character. 1968 01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,519 Speaker 1: Probably he's got a he's got a decent shout a. Yeah, 1969 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:44,880 Speaker 1: I think he's got I think he's got a future. 1970 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,680 Speaker 1: So but you know, I look at a guy like 1971 01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:52,439 Speaker 1: Albert Huggins out of Clemson, who just seems to have 1972 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,800 Speaker 1: a lot of juice. Look, I told Johnny said, look, 1973 01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how to evaluate these D linemen in practice, 1974 01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 1: but I know what I'm seeing. When you know, guys 1975 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,479 Speaker 1: jumping all around, it shows the energy they're looking for. 1976 01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:06,960 Speaker 1: And Azoya Alifaja, which I probably mispronounced, but I'll get 1977 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,720 Speaker 1: it right for Opening night if he makes the team, 1978 01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,080 Speaker 1: and even if he does it just out of respect 1979 01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,640 Speaker 1: for him. Six four three twenty pound rookie out of 1980 01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,760 Speaker 1: West Georgia. This guy is he blocks out the sun, 1981 01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,559 Speaker 1: big Z. They call him big Z blocks out the sun, 1982 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,360 Speaker 1: and he's hard not to notice. Maybe he's practice squad, 1983 01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, But on that D line, because you 1984 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,840 Speaker 1: know Watt, Blackson, Donnie, they're all gonna make it. Obviously, Blacklock, 1985 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,840 Speaker 1: a mana who these guys. I don't know about PJ. 1986 01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:35,960 Speaker 1: Hall yet, you know, because he came on late. He's 1987 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,000 Speaker 1: kind of he was behind the schedule of everybody else 1988 01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,120 Speaker 1: in the ramp up activity. So I'm not sure what's 1989 01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna happen with him. But I would start on the 1990 01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,680 Speaker 1: D line for maybe a surprise or two when it 1991 01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,639 Speaker 1: all comes down to it. I don't think there will 1992 01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,960 Speaker 1: be any real big surprises on the old line. Receiver. 1993 01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:55,439 Speaker 1: I just you know, DeAndre Carter I think is as 1994 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,920 Speaker 1: much of a lock to make this football team as 1995 01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:01,040 Speaker 1: anybody else because he's reliable. I know what happened in 1996 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,200 Speaker 1: the playoff game, but he's so reliable catching the football. 1997 01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,800 Speaker 1: I think a surprise could be, Oh, they kept six 1998 01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 1: and maybe it's Qt or Mitchell or one of these 1999 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:14,880 Speaker 1: other guys Hansen who pops in and makes the club. 2000 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,800 Speaker 1: So I'll look at that position group closely. I'm not 2001 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,640 Speaker 1: sure how they're going to handle the running backs. You know, 2002 01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,600 Speaker 1: Gillespie has been nicked up a bit, but you know 2003 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,439 Speaker 1: they love him and he plays special teams and he 2004 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,479 Speaker 1: really knows the offense well. He can make plays for 2005 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,840 Speaker 1: you there, but they get thin in a hurry. We've 2006 01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,560 Speaker 1: talked about this guys, and I'm not sure, you know, 2007 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,400 Speaker 1: that's one area where I'm thinking, geez, if they get 2008 01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,320 Speaker 1: an injury or something, what are they gonna do or 2009 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna feel like, all right, Higden is our guy. 2010 01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,760 Speaker 1: He you know, we can ride with him, but you 2011 01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:42,519 Speaker 1: haven't seen him in a real game, in any kind 2012 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,960 Speaker 1: of games. So you're just not sure there. And I 2013 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:47,800 Speaker 1: don't want to go over every group on the team here, 2014 01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:49,680 Speaker 1: but those are some of my initial thoughts when you 2015 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,719 Speaker 1: bring up that question before we get into the schedule 2016 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,719 Speaker 1: of the Texans coming up, I had a question about 2017 01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,080 Speaker 1: the guy that they're going to protect, or the guys 2018 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,280 Speaker 1: that they're gonna protect. You mentioned it earlier that they 2019 01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,960 Speaker 1: have four they have four spots that they can protect 2020 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 1: guys that do or they're on the practice squad, but 2021 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,080 Speaker 1: nobody can come snatch them up off of waivers or 2022 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,200 Speaker 1: anything like that. Just in general, just kind of a 2023 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:17,120 Speaker 1: general philosophy, what position groups do you think are most 2024 01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,400 Speaker 1: likely to be one of those four have one of 2025 01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:24,720 Speaker 1: those four members of the protected squad well, it's a 2026 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,560 Speaker 1: great question, and I think that you know, Johnny and 2027 01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:31,360 Speaker 1: I were discussing this, and I think McGoo, Alex mcgoo's 2028 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,479 Speaker 1: got to be one of those four. Right. You can't 2029 01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:38,639 Speaker 1: afford to have your third quarterback out there in limbo land, 2030 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 1: so maybe him, and then you look at maybe one 2031 01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:46,160 Speaker 1: of the receivers. You know, you have to look at 2032 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:50,400 Speaker 1: a position group that gets extremely thin quickly, and you 2033 01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:53,040 Speaker 1: don't want your practice squad guy to be poached. You 2034 01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,280 Speaker 1: have to protect the four people. So it's possible. You know, 2035 01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,439 Speaker 1: how about this what I just said about running backs. 2036 01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:01,080 Speaker 1: What if there's a running back on the waiver wire 2037 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,600 Speaker 1: that they love and it's like, okay, we don't need 2038 01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:05,640 Speaker 1: to play him Opening Night because everybody's healthy, but we 2039 01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,959 Speaker 1: want the insurance policy. If they didn't like their insurance 2040 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,960 Speaker 1: policy at running back or any position group for that matter, 2041 01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,479 Speaker 1: you pluck a guy off the waiver wire and stick 2042 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 1: him in that protective four on the practice squad. This 2043 01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,200 Speaker 1: way you can test him. He doesn't have to come 2044 01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,760 Speaker 1: in right away. He'll be available week two if God 2045 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 1: forbid you needed him. If not, you can wait and 2046 01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,280 Speaker 1: just get him up to speed at your leisure. If 2047 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,080 Speaker 1: you will. So there are a lot of things to 2048 01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:35,080 Speaker 1: consider there, but I would say running back receiver, you 2049 01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:37,519 Speaker 1: never have enough defensive back. So maybe they feel that 2050 01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,400 Speaker 1: way and they'll let go of somebody, but they'll keep 2051 01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:41,840 Speaker 1: him in that protective four I think that's you know, 2052 01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if people find these things exciting, but 2053 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,800 Speaker 1: I do think they find them interesting. And that four 2054 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,280 Speaker 1: mans group right there is going to be fun to 2055 01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,840 Speaker 1: watch next weekend when they get it all boiled down. Yeah, 2056 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:55,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, when when you think about this, 2057 01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 1: you know this is going to be a one time thing. 2058 01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,200 Speaker 1: This is not like this is going to be something 2059 01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,519 Speaker 1: that you can draw from and with their philosophy and say, 2060 01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,439 Speaker 1: you know what, I expect them to do this going 2061 01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,280 Speaker 1: forward for years to come, because you know, hopefully prayer 2062 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,160 Speaker 1: for the hopefully that this is not something that you're 2063 01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,000 Speaker 1: having to deal with for years to come, talking about 2064 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,840 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. But it's just it's just interesting to see 2065 01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,479 Speaker 1: how they're gonna do it, how the Texans do it, 2066 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,519 Speaker 1: how other teams around the league with types of guys 2067 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,120 Speaker 1: that they try to protect. Because this is a it's 2068 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,200 Speaker 1: a one shot deal, you're gonna figure it out this 2069 01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,280 Speaker 1: way this you have one go ahead and that would 2070 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:29,280 Speaker 1: be it. But well, here's another thing to watch out for. 2071 01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,439 Speaker 1: I believe the deadline is still for them and the Chiefs, 2072 01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,960 Speaker 1: even though they play earlier. It's still three o'clock on 2073 01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,920 Speaker 1: September fifth, three o'clock Saturday is going to be the 2074 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,400 Speaker 1: cutdown deadline. But they're gonna make their cuts before that, 2075 01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,080 Speaker 1: right yeah. I mean, you know you're gonna want to 2076 01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 1: get your team together before that, and then everybody else 2077 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,760 Speaker 1: gets a head start on your guys, you know, on 2078 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,200 Speaker 1: evaluating them. So if you pick up a Texans cut, 2079 01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,760 Speaker 1: you'll have a little bit more time to bring them 2080 01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:58,360 Speaker 1: in if you cut somebody else right away to make 2081 01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 1: room for them. You know, there's a lot to consider here, 2082 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,840 Speaker 1: And as we're having that conversation, guys, I think the 2083 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 1: biggest thing here is, you know, you might have seen 2084 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,280 Speaker 1: players before in whatever action in college, or if they 2085 01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,160 Speaker 1: had a little taste of NFL action or preseason action, 2086 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,360 Speaker 1: if they're one of these accredited first year guys, but 2087 01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:17,200 Speaker 1: they're really in year three or one of you know, 2088 01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,679 Speaker 1: there are a lot of players like that. I don't 2089 01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:23,000 Speaker 1: know how they're gonna feel about whatever footage they have 2090 01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,280 Speaker 1: because you haven't seen the guys lately. You know, you 2091 01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:30,920 Speaker 1: haven't seen real action from them lately on film. So 2092 01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guesswork here involved, and the research 2093 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:36,360 Speaker 1: you did in the past is really gonna have to 2094 01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 1: be good, so you make some solid decisions. Mark, I 2095 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,280 Speaker 1: don't know if they're allowed to do this or not. 2096 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:41,880 Speaker 1: And I don't even know if you would know the 2097 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,120 Speaker 1: answer to this question. But our players allowed to take 2098 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:50,280 Speaker 1: their practice practice film and share them with other teams 2099 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 1: through their agents if they were to get released, since 2100 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,600 Speaker 1: there's because normally you have preseason film and so you 2101 01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:56,120 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. Are they Are they 2102 01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,479 Speaker 1: allowed to do that one? I don't know the answer 2103 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,800 Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, I wouldn't. I doubt For you guys, 2104 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,080 Speaker 1: that's a great question, But I doubt it because you know, 2105 01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,400 Speaker 1: everybody else is gonna be on there. It's not like 2106 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:11,200 Speaker 1: here's my io, you know, yeah, everybody else. I was 2107 01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,839 Speaker 1: just wondering because the player would be on there, the scheme, 2108 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,639 Speaker 1: it's just a lot that goes into it. I don't 2109 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:20,240 Speaker 1: think it'll be it'll be like a dacted, uh, some radact. 2110 01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,400 Speaker 1: They'll they'll they'll put some some black marks over the 2111 01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,120 Speaker 1: play call and all that type of stuff. I just 2112 01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,320 Speaker 1: want you to spot shout me only. I'm trying to 2113 01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:27,960 Speaker 1: get a job here. I'm trying to figure out a 2114 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:29,680 Speaker 1: way I'm trying to figure out a way in. You know, 2115 01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,680 Speaker 1: I blur everybody else, everybody inside, and just show you 2116 01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 1: and the guy you know one on one. You can 2117 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,479 Speaker 1: show your one on one and all that type of stuff. 2118 01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,280 Speaker 1: But let's get into this. This Uh this a twenty 2119 01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,679 Speaker 1: twenty season preview. You got the Texans first, where eleven 2120 01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,320 Speaker 1: days away from the Texans versus the Chiefs. Of course, 2121 01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,120 Speaker 1: we like to break down these schedules in fours. I 2122 01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:49,640 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of teams to do it this way. 2123 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:51,400 Speaker 1: I believe you do it this way. Mark, I've heard 2124 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,160 Speaker 1: you do these before. But uh, the Texans have they 2125 01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:55,920 Speaker 1: start off the season with the Chiefs on the road. 2126 01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:57,880 Speaker 1: You got the Ravens, the Stealers, and the Vikings. This 2127 01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,559 Speaker 1: first four games is a murderers role. It just got 2128 01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:06,360 Speaker 1: tougher because the Vikings just acquired Johannick and Dockway from 2129 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:09,000 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, and that'll payoff dividends, I think for 2130 01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,320 Speaker 1: the Texans towards the back end of the schedule, but 2131 01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,519 Speaker 1: initially that's gonna it's gonna be a tough role from them. 2132 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:16,800 Speaker 1: How do you see this shaking out? These first four 2133 01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:19,880 Speaker 1: games against the Chiefs, the Ravens, the Steelers, and the Vikings. 2134 01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:23,439 Speaker 1: I think you could play well and still go two 2135 01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:25,920 Speaker 1: and two, you know what I mean. These are tough teams, 2136 01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,240 Speaker 1: so you could you know, you could go out guns 2137 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,280 Speaker 1: blazing against the Chiefs and lose thirty one to twenty eight. 2138 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:32,920 Speaker 1: It was a hell of a game, but you lost, 2139 01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, and you played well, just like you did 2140 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,280 Speaker 1: against the Saints last year. And look, you know, we 2141 01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,320 Speaker 1: could debate whether that was playing well or not. But 2142 01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,000 Speaker 1: they had the lead late, so could have, would have 2143 01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,200 Speaker 1: should have in that one. So I think you could 2144 01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,479 Speaker 1: have a couple of losses like that in the early 2145 01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,519 Speaker 1: going here, Not that I'm predicting that, but I liken 2146 01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,439 Speaker 1: this too, maybe a long road race where you don't 2147 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,519 Speaker 1: need the lead right away. In fact, Johnny and I 2148 01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,439 Speaker 1: were breaking down the schedules of the Jags, Titans, and 2149 01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:01,439 Speaker 1: Cults in the first four games, and clearly the Texans 2150 01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,360 Speaker 1: have the hardest out of the gate, right So you know, 2151 01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,400 Speaker 1: after four games, if the Texans are in second or 2152 01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 1: third or whatever, it is not time to freak out 2153 01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,680 Speaker 1: because it's all gonna depend on what you do in 2154 01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,080 Speaker 1: those final four games at the end of the year. 2155 01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,040 Speaker 1: But I know you guys know that. Yeah, no question 2156 01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,000 Speaker 1: about it. It's going to be tough for those guys 2157 01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,400 Speaker 1: to jump out to a league. It's gonna be very 2158 01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,840 Speaker 1: important for the guys to stay together if there's any 2159 01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:26,519 Speaker 1: issues that are gone, because, like like Mark said, they 2160 01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,960 Speaker 1: can very well play quality football games, play well and 2161 01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,760 Speaker 1: not come up on the winning end. Because you're playing 2162 01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,760 Speaker 1: against some of the best teams in the league and 2163 01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:36,600 Speaker 1: you're playing them back to back to back week So 2164 01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:38,880 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out there. 2165 01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:42,400 Speaker 1: The next four games. You have the Jaguars at home, 2166 01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,360 Speaker 1: and you got the Titans on the road, the Packers 2167 01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:46,680 Speaker 1: at home, and then you get a bye week and 2168 01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,360 Speaker 1: then you got the Jaguars on the road. Those that 2169 01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:54,040 Speaker 1: schedule looks a lot more palatable, a lot more enticing 2170 01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,439 Speaker 1: when you look at it from the perspective of the 2171 01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:59,000 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Yeah, and I think that, you know, whenever 2172 01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,160 Speaker 1: you see the Jaguars a schedule, you know, people start 2173 01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:04,479 Speaker 1: saying when you know, but these aren't easy. You know 2174 01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:08,840 Speaker 1: last year Week two at home, there you are having 2175 01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:11,960 Speaker 1: to stop Fournette in a two point conversion try. So 2176 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,519 Speaker 1: it's a two yard run attempt to buy Fournette to 2177 01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,040 Speaker 1: win the game for the Jaguars, and you made the stop. 2178 01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,759 Speaker 1: So that's great, but you were that close to losing 2179 01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,560 Speaker 1: that football game. That's what Jacksonville can do to you. 2180 01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,400 Speaker 1: So you can't take anything for granted. Here at Tennessee 2181 01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:29,400 Speaker 1: should be a war like it was last year late 2182 01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,439 Speaker 1: in the season when they got it and the Packers 2183 01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,720 Speaker 1: of the Packers. Now, the thing about green Bay, Yeah 2184 01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:36,320 Speaker 1: they went thirteen and three, but they know they need 2185 01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:39,200 Speaker 1: to get better because they went thirteen and three with 2186 01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:43,320 Speaker 1: an offense that statistically wasn't that great and defensively statistically 2187 01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,599 Speaker 1: wasn't that great, but they were really good in turnover margin, 2188 01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 1: and you know, good for them. I mean, they went 2189 01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,559 Speaker 1: thirteen and three. I'd love to go thirteen to three. 2190 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:53,639 Speaker 1: So it's a tough team to get Aaron Rodgers. You've 2191 01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:57,360 Speaker 1: never beaten the Packers at NRG Stadium. This is only 2192 01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,760 Speaker 1: the third ever visit for them. It was OZ four 2193 01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,519 Speaker 1: far and then twelve way. Do you remember that game 2194 01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday? That was a long day at the office. 2195 01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:09,720 Speaker 1: Tell you what that dank. Aaron Rodgers went to work 2196 01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,760 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. I mean, he put six touchdowns and 2197 01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,439 Speaker 1: it seemed like every time the coverage is right there, 2198 01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,479 Speaker 1: but he put it right where only the receiver you 2199 01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,760 Speaker 1: can get it. That was a long day at the office. 2200 01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:22,960 Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. And the five game was also a 2201 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,960 Speaker 1: Sunday night game. It was the old ESPN Sunday Night Football. 2202 01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:28,560 Speaker 1: But that was a late field goal packer win. And 2203 01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:32,960 Speaker 1: look this they're always difficult. But you know again, um 2204 01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,960 Speaker 1: you could if you play well, you should go three 2205 01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,360 Speaker 1: and one, you feel, yeah, but you know two and 2206 01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,760 Speaker 1: two would not be a shocker there either. So you 2207 01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:44,760 Speaker 1: know at the halfway point, you could conceivably be four 2208 01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,040 Speaker 1: and four. And it's not even time to freak out. 2209 01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,640 Speaker 1: It really isn't, because I think the division is going 2210 01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:52,640 Speaker 1: to stay pretty close. Everybody's playing the AFC North at 2211 01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:55,080 Speaker 1: NFC North, and you have some tough games. Yeah, I 2212 01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,400 Speaker 1: tell you what, I'm looking at the first eight games. 2213 01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:00,360 Speaker 1: If the Texans can go five and three there ahead 2214 01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:01,880 Speaker 1: of the coach curve, I think if you go four 2215 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,400 Speaker 1: and four, you should be excited right where you you know, 2216 01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:06,240 Speaker 1: you feel like you're in a good spot if you're 2217 01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,720 Speaker 1: if you're you know, below five hundred, now you got 2218 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,000 Speaker 1: some cousbal concern. But if you're five and three in 2219 01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,320 Speaker 1: that first eight, to me, I think you're doing well 2220 01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:15,800 Speaker 1: for the Texan. The next four games, you got the 2221 01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,840 Speaker 1: Browns on the road, at the Patriots at home. You 2222 01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,840 Speaker 1: got Thanksgiving at Detroit, I think some five memories of 2223 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,840 Speaker 1: their going there and back in twenty twelve, and then 2224 01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,160 Speaker 1: you got the Colts at home. And what do you 2225 01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:30,160 Speaker 1: think about those next four games? Mark, I think justin 2226 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,880 Speaker 1: for set should be the honorary team captain of the 2227 01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:38,280 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Kam. We can make Dad, that would be nice. Uh. 2228 01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:41,360 Speaker 1: I love going to Cleveland and we haven't been there enough. 2229 01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,439 Speaker 1: I know we went O seven, O eight, O two, 2230 01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:46,320 Speaker 1: and in fourteen. Those are the four trips to the Browns. 2231 01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:48,960 Speaker 1: I love going to Cleveland. There's just something about those 2232 01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:53,120 Speaker 1: fans in that city and it's just an NFL town. Uh. Look, 2233 01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,320 Speaker 1: who knows. I think that's a tough one to predict 2234 01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:58,160 Speaker 1: right now and say what the Patriots because is camp playing? 2235 01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,240 Speaker 1: Is he not what about those defensive opt outs? How 2236 01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:03,840 Speaker 1: does that play in? And you know, I I think 2237 01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,200 Speaker 1: between the second four and the third four, one of 2238 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,360 Speaker 1: those is going to be a three and one. So 2239 01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:11,880 Speaker 1: what does that put our record at? Right now? Okay, 2240 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:18,479 Speaker 1: seven and six? Wait, no, No, three is eight and four? 2241 01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,360 Speaker 1: Six and six? All right, I'll take seven and five 2242 01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:26,880 Speaker 1: because I think the I think the final stretch is 2243 01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:31,200 Speaker 1: very revealing here. Yeah, the final stretch. You got the 2244 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,400 Speaker 1: Bears on the road, you got the Colts on the road, 2245 01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,760 Speaker 1: and you got the Bengals and the Titans at home. 2246 01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:39,120 Speaker 1: And normally it seems like that Titan game is one 2247 01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,080 Speaker 1: of those games it doesn't matter for the Texans. And 2248 01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm going way back to when I was with the Texans, 2249 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,000 Speaker 1: and you even saw it last year. But how do 2250 01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,880 Speaker 1: you see those last four games shaking out? Well, let's 2251 01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,080 Speaker 1: just let's go on. If you know, you're eight, you're 2252 01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,840 Speaker 1: seven and five, and you go three and four down 2253 01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:55,760 Speaker 1: the stretch here, I mean you go three and one 2254 01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:58,720 Speaker 1: rather down the stretch, so now you're ten and six. Well, 2255 01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,840 Speaker 1: you guys like if I'm if, I'm let's make a right, 2256 01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm Wayne Brady, I'm Monty Hall, I say, will you 2257 01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:07,160 Speaker 1: take ten and six or the unknown? Which will you 2258 01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,360 Speaker 1: take this year? I'm taking the tenancee. I'm taking ten 2259 01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,040 Speaker 1: and six. Easy. Yeah, me too. And look look at us. 2260 01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,840 Speaker 1: We were struggling there at five hundred and a halfway point, 2261 01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:17,800 Speaker 1: we were seven and five and oh my gosh, where's 2262 01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,080 Speaker 1: this going. You finish three and one and now you're 2263 01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,600 Speaker 1: ten and six and that's a nice thing. Now. That 2264 01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:24,840 Speaker 1: might not win the division, but I think it does. 2265 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,519 Speaker 1: I think ten and six wins the AFC South because 2266 01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:29,640 Speaker 1: it's tough for everybody this year. Yeah, it might not 2267 01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:31,599 Speaker 1: win your division, but if a sure gets you into 2268 01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and at the end of the day, that's 2269 01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,520 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You gotta get yourself an opportunity 2270 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,880 Speaker 1: to get into the playoffs to win it all. And 2271 01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,160 Speaker 1: so that's kind of what I'm seeing out of the 2272 01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,600 Speaker 1: Texans a very similar schedule. We'll go into it a 2273 01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,160 Speaker 1: little bit further in depth when Cecil Chapoda later on 2274 01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,920 Speaker 1: in the show. Mark VanderMeer joined us for this hour. 2275 01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,280 Speaker 1: Appreciate you join us, Mark, Mark, what else did you? 2276 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,440 Speaker 1: What else do you have going on with Texans Radio 2277 01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:56,840 Speaker 1: for this upcoming week? And then we'll talk to the 2278 01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,360 Speaker 1: people a little bit about the Virtual Lunch and that's 2279 01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,560 Speaker 1: coming up in the matter of days. Yeah, Tuesday, the 2280 01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:04,920 Speaker 1: Virtual Lunch, and and you're part of that, you guys. 2281 01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Um, It's it's an extravaganza. I mean, 2282 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,920 Speaker 1: anyone who's been to the lunch and knows it's a 2283 01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:11,880 Speaker 1: lot of fun. But we we've got all out here. 2284 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got celebrities. You got Sam Ponder and 2285 01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:17,640 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, and you've got Wade Smith and Cecil Are 2286 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,720 Speaker 1: you in the Virtual Lunch in someplace? No, I'm not, okay, 2287 01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:26,880 Speaker 1: but we could pretend he is, so anyway right now. Yes, 2288 01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,839 Speaker 1: And uh, it's it's gonna be great. It's it's very different, 2289 01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:34,160 Speaker 1: it's very watchable, um, and everybody should check it out. 2290 01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:37,120 Speaker 1: Everybody's invited to the Virtual Lunch. Texans All Access six 2291 01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:40,800 Speaker 1: o'clock every night, and we've got tonight we have Texans 2292 01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:43,400 Speaker 1: Extra Points at ten thirty five out ABC thirteen. So 2293 01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,160 Speaker 1: check it out. And that's Cecil Shorts. We'll be on 2294 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:50,000 Speaker 1: there with Drew Dhardy. See he might not be at 2295 01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,640 Speaker 1: the lunch, but he's the most of points. Baby. Ceci 2296 01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,320 Speaker 1: S's gonna find a way man. Appreciate you join us. Mark, 2297 01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:59,520 Speaker 1: It's always great to have you on in and appreciate 2298 01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,960 Speaker 1: you have a weekend. 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For more information on Lux memberships, visit 2410 02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:28,600 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com Slash Suites or call eight three 2411 02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:32,280 Speaker 1: two six six seven twenty two ninety nine two ninety 2412 02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:37,800 Speaker 1: nine two. Texans Radio is at Training Camp. Welcome back 2413 02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:43,240 Speaker 1: to the Texans Training Camp specially. Yes, indeed, this is 2414 02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:46,960 Speaker 1: the Texas Training Camps Special presented by Sfinity. I'm Waite Smith, 2415 02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:49,840 Speaker 1: joined by Cecil Short, six year NFL. That two former 2416 02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Texans holding you down at six o'clock. And right now 2417 02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:58,280 Speaker 1: we have John Harris on the phone, Texans Sideline Analysts, 2418 02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:00,760 Speaker 1: the guy that gives you all the excellence and ols 2419 02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to what's going on over there at NRG. John, 2420 02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:06,520 Speaker 1: how you doing this afternoon? Doing pretty well? Boy, It's 2421 02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,040 Speaker 1: not as good as Zach Cuttingham, but doing pretty well, nonetheless, 2422 02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:12,160 Speaker 1: no question about it. He's doing He's doing very very well. 2423 02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Like fifty eight million reasons why I think he's well? 2424 02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Was your initial thoughts when you heard that Zach Hunningham 2425 02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:22,040 Speaker 1: got his deal done about eleven days before the Texans 2426 02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:25,560 Speaker 1: take on a change. Kancity chiefs. Good now, let's getting 2427 02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,400 Speaker 1: number four done and we'll have our core set for 2428 02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:30,760 Speaker 1: a while. And that to me is the thing I 2429 02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:33,720 Speaker 1: saw on Twitter. You know it's interesting because I saw 2430 02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,200 Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of posts on Twitter. One 2431 02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:38,920 Speaker 1: was from PFF saying that Zach Cuttingham at the NFL 2432 02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:42,240 Speaker 1: A defensive stops last year. And if you've watched Zach 2433 02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Cuttingham closely, if you really truly watched Zach cutting him closely, 2434 02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:48,960 Speaker 1: you know how good an inside linebacker he is. And 2435 02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:51,839 Speaker 1: I say this, and I don't say it without without 2436 02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:54,520 Speaker 1: knowing exactly what I'm saying, and that is I don't. 2437 02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:56,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't take an inside linebacker in the NFL over 2438 02:03:57,080 --> 02:04:00,680 Speaker 1: Zach Cuttingham. Now are there guys that are maybe better 2439 02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:04,760 Speaker 1: or better put more well known than him? Sure, everybody 2440 02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,000 Speaker 1: knows about Bobby Wagner, now you know he's gonna playing 2441 02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:09,879 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks for forever. But is there a linebacker 2442 02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,960 Speaker 1: where you would go, Oh, I would definitively take that 2443 02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:16,760 Speaker 1: guy over Zach. There isn't one. And I saw another 2444 02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:19,800 Speaker 1: post a couple posts below that said, no, this is 2445 02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:21,960 Speaker 1: a this is a great deal for a good player. 2446 02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, good player good. You could argue that Zach 2447 02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:28,800 Speaker 1: Cunningham has been our best player on defense. The last 2448 02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:30,760 Speaker 1: couple of years now, some people said, well, last year, 2449 02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:32,480 Speaker 1: what's that? What's that really mean? Because it was a 2450 02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:34,480 Speaker 1: defense that was in the I don't know, twenty six, 2451 02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:36,360 Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eighth, whatever it was in the league. 2452 02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:40,000 Speaker 1: Guess where it would be without him. If Zach Cunningham 2453 02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:41,880 Speaker 1: was the type of guy that got on Twitter, got 2454 02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:44,920 Speaker 1: on Instagram, kept talking about getting that bag and yeah, 2455 02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:46,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna be seeing me show up in a brings 2456 02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:49,040 Speaker 1: truck like Ramsey did at Jacksonville practice and he was 2457 02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:52,400 Speaker 1: bragging Oshio about what he did. Everybody, every sure as 2458 02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:55,879 Speaker 1: hell would know about Zach Cunningham. But Zach doesn't say anything. 2459 02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:58,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't say a word about any of that. He 2460 02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:01,720 Speaker 1: didn't pump himself up, He doesn't really celebrate after plays. 2461 02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:03,600 Speaker 1: He just goes on and does his job, and you 2462 02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:05,920 Speaker 1: look up and go, huh, Zach out of the twelve tackles, 2463 02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:08,200 Speaker 1: a past break up in a sack today, just doing 2464 02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:10,640 Speaker 1: his job, and you'd never know it. You'd never know it. 2465 02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:13,320 Speaker 1: But as soon as somebody has three tackles, a sack 2466 02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:15,920 Speaker 1: and maybe a bad pass the line of scrimmage, they're 2467 02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:19,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram saying, yeah, rising grind, baby, Rising Grind, that's 2468 02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:21,400 Speaker 1: all I do is rising ground. Like come on, man, 2469 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:25,240 Speaker 1: like really like, if that Gunningham said all that that nonsense, 2470 02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:28,280 Speaker 1: he was more of a public figure like that, everybody'd 2471 02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:30,080 Speaker 1: be going, this is a whale of a deal man 2472 02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:32,280 Speaker 1: to get this guy for a fifty eight million for 2473 02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:34,400 Speaker 1: four years and his guarantees are only twenty three and 2474 02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:36,400 Speaker 1: a half or whatever it is. Yeah, come on, man, 2475 02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:38,360 Speaker 1: it's a great deal. It's a great deal for the Texans, 2476 02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:41,120 Speaker 1: is an excellent deal for Zach And you're saying, oh, 2477 02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:43,640 Speaker 1: this is this is just emblematic what the Texas do. Yeah, 2478 02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:46,080 Speaker 1: they give money to players that they have developed, and 2479 02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:48,400 Speaker 1: a guy that has developed into arguably one of the 2480 02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:50,440 Speaker 1: better inside linebackers in the game. They could do so 2481 02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,480 Speaker 1: many different things for your team. Come on, man, get 2482 02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:57,200 Speaker 1: off that. Get off that rising grind hashtag. I love 2483 02:05:57,280 --> 02:06:00,000 Speaker 1: your energy right there. I would just mean way just 2484 02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:03,040 Speaker 1: talking about it, and not to bash Jacksonville, But Jacksonville 2485 02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,840 Speaker 1: helped develop Jalen Ramsey and they don't have no more. 2486 02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,720 Speaker 1: They help developed Yanick and I can't say his last name, 2487 02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:11,440 Speaker 1: and he's not there. The more they have developed Alan Robinson, 2488 02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:13,080 Speaker 1: he's not there. The more so when you can keep 2489 02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:15,480 Speaker 1: a core guy. He's going to be in your building 2490 02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:17,440 Speaker 1: for the next five years. And he's young. As young 2491 02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:19,080 Speaker 1: as he is, and he's one of the top guys 2492 02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:21,200 Speaker 1: in this position. It's a big deal. But going back 2493 02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:24,080 Speaker 1: to core right, and and I want to keep I 2494 02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:26,160 Speaker 1: want to bring this guy's name because I keep hearing it, 2495 02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I keep reading about it. I keep he would be 2496 02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:30,480 Speaker 1: telling me how great of a camp he's having. You 2497 02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:34,880 Speaker 1: wrote about it last week. A J. Moore? Please, what 2498 02:06:35,120 --> 02:06:36,840 Speaker 1: is going on with him? What is he doing that 2499 02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:41,160 Speaker 1: standing out so much? Well, I think the right question 2500 02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:43,320 Speaker 1: she would be, what is he not doing? I mean 2501 02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:47,040 Speaker 1: this guy, I mean he's he's doing. He doing a 2502 02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:48,680 Speaker 1: little bit of everything. I mean, look, we claimed on 2503 02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:50,680 Speaker 1: waivers in twenty eighteen, so we didn't even have a 2504 02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:54,080 Speaker 1: chance to see him practice, so we didn't really know 2505 02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:57,160 Speaker 1: where you fit on the team. He's like, yeah, look, 2506 02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:59,240 Speaker 1: it's cool. I'll just go on special teams. I'll show 2507 02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:01,520 Speaker 1: y'all sixteen games. He dominates on special teams. So he 2508 02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:03,960 Speaker 1: comes back last year in training camp and he starts 2509 02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:06,960 Speaker 1: to show us, hey, you know, I can't play a 2510 02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:09,000 Speaker 1: little bit of defense. And he had really good momentum 2511 02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:11,400 Speaker 1: going for like the first week and a half and 2512 02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:14,400 Speaker 1: then it just kind of leveled off, and then he 2513 02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:17,040 Speaker 1: just really kind of was trudging up hill all year. 2514 02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:19,200 Speaker 1: But he finally by the end of the year got 2515 02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:22,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get out on defense and play kind 2516 02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:25,640 Speaker 1: of the money spot, you know, in dime and in 2517 02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:27,640 Speaker 1: in the Bills game. He makes a couple of big 2518 02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:30,840 Speaker 1: plays on defense in the Bills game, and he just 2519 02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,600 Speaker 1: has gotten better and better and better, and he knows 2520 02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:35,920 Speaker 1: what his role is, and I think that's key. He 2521 02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:37,480 Speaker 1: knows who his roles and his role is to be. 2522 02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,040 Speaker 1: He knows he's supposed to be and is one of 2523 02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:42,400 Speaker 1: the key special teams for this team. But he also knows, Hey, 2524 02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:44,560 Speaker 1: if I can impact this game in some way shape 2525 02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:46,640 Speaker 1: or forming a defensive side, I'm gonna do it. So 2526 02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:49,120 Speaker 1: the one thing I think he has done, probably better 2527 02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:53,360 Speaker 1: than he's done before, Cecilia's coverage. He's been really good 2528 02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:56,560 Speaker 1: in coverage. He has been he has been stuck in 2529 02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:58,960 Speaker 1: man coverage, and stuck not the right word, but he's 2530 02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,360 Speaker 1: had man coverage on tight dance down the scene. I 2531 02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:03,680 Speaker 1: don't know how many times I've seen him, and he's 2532 02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:05,920 Speaker 1: come up with a couple of interceptions. Through the last 2533 02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:09,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks he's come up with breakups. He had 2534 02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:13,440 Speaker 1: an interception in the scrimmage that was like, whoa, he 2535 02:08:13,720 --> 02:08:16,360 Speaker 1: blitz the other day. And you know, it's funny. You know, 2536 02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:18,800 Speaker 1: we talk about we talk about blitzing, and we talk 2537 02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:22,160 Speaker 1: about it as a scheme thing, but a good blitz 2538 02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,520 Speaker 1: is as much on the blitzer as it is anything else. 2539 02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:28,760 Speaker 1: The timing, do you know, the timing. And it's funny 2540 02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:30,080 Speaker 1: because I was out of a conversation with Jack he 2541 02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:31,959 Speaker 1: should be the other day and he being with the Patriots, 2542 02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:33,920 Speaker 1: he brought up Logan Ryan and I was like, well, 2543 02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:38,320 Speaker 1: that's perfect because Logan Ryan was a really good blitzer. 2544 02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:42,600 Speaker 1: He made the blitz because of his timing and where 2545 02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:45,560 Speaker 1: he knew to go, Like he could change his path 2546 02:08:45,960 --> 02:08:48,640 Speaker 1: from B gap or right C gap to B gap 2547 02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:50,640 Speaker 1: if he needs to on the fly, but he could 2548 02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:53,080 Speaker 1: hit that blitz. He had the right timing, he knew 2549 02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:55,960 Speaker 1: how to get there as quickly as possible. He could 2550 02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:58,080 Speaker 1: actually take on a block in the backfield. Two. We've 2551 02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:00,600 Speaker 1: seen Aj do that too with the blitz. He is 2552 02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:03,520 Speaker 1: really good about timing it up and getting there at 2553 02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:06,680 Speaker 1: the right exact moment when he needs to. And then 2554 02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:09,000 Speaker 1: the other day he blitzed in the scrimmage, and I 2555 02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:12,720 Speaker 1: mean he and I think it was Karen Higden Man. 2556 02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:16,440 Speaker 1: They collided and I want to say, well, Karan accepted 2557 02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:19,400 Speaker 1: the blow more than than than AJ did, because AJ 2558 02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:23,320 Speaker 1: delivered that thing, and AJ was able to strike and 2559 02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,920 Speaker 1: get off and actually kind of impact the throw at 2560 02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:28,800 Speaker 1: that point from Aj McCarn So he's doing a lot 2561 02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:32,760 Speaker 1: of the things that you know, coverage has been good. 2562 02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:34,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever gonna be used to 2563 02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:36,520 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, we put Aj more out in the 2564 02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:39,040 Speaker 1: field to cover somebody specifically like that, that's what we do. 2565 02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll be that guy, but I 2566 02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:43,000 Speaker 1: think he'll be kind of jack of all trades guy. 2567 02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:44,760 Speaker 1: And what do you you know who he reminds me 2568 02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:48,360 Speaker 1: of as a former teammate of yours, guy's Eddie Pleasant. 2569 02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:50,880 Speaker 1: You know, Eddie was a guy that in college played 2570 02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:54,440 Speaker 1: safety one year, then the linebacker and in safety and 2571 02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:57,040 Speaker 1: then back the linebacker. And he was kind of built 2572 02:09:57,280 --> 02:10:00,360 Speaker 1: in like a safety linebacker body and he's almost the 2573 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:03,160 Speaker 1: same dimensions I think as Aj. And then Eddie would 2574 02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:06,720 Speaker 1: come here and he would play all special teams, and 2575 02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:10,160 Speaker 1: then he would end up as the money, the money, 2576 02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:13,480 Speaker 1: spot and dime, and he would play coverage. Sometimes sometimes 2577 02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:15,800 Speaker 1: he would blitz, sometimes he would stuff to draw. He 2578 02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:18,640 Speaker 1: just did a bunch of little things that added up 2579 02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:20,440 Speaker 1: and you go, wow, he's really made an impact. And 2580 02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:23,640 Speaker 1: I think about Eddie the night we played the Patriots 2581 02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:28,040 Speaker 1: in the playoff divisional playoff game up there, it's seventeen, no, 2582 02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:31,800 Speaker 1: we're up seventeen. I can't remember what it was, but 2583 02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:34,960 Speaker 1: it was seventeen sixteen fourteen, and it looked like they 2584 02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:36,440 Speaker 1: were gonna score, and they got down on the goal 2585 02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,760 Speaker 1: line and he makes two huge plays the goal line 2586 02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:41,400 Speaker 1: that forced them into a field goal. And it's only 2587 02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:43,800 Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen at the half, when it could have been 2588 02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:45,960 Speaker 1: twenty to sixteen at the half or twenty one to 2589 02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:47,640 Speaker 1: sixteen at a half, and it would have been you know, 2590 02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,480 Speaker 1: who knows what happens at that point. Now Brock happened later, 2591 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:53,040 Speaker 1: but that's a different story. Eddie makes two huge plays, 2592 02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:55,680 Speaker 1: and I remember talking to Bill at half time as 2593 02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:57,640 Speaker 1: they're going in and he mentions, he's like, Eddie pleasant 2594 02:10:57,680 --> 02:10:59,400 Speaker 1: making those two big plays. That to me is kind 2595 02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:01,840 Speaker 1: of a player they looking for since Eddie left in 2596 02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:05,120 Speaker 1: a more athletic AJ Moore. I think that's what they 2597 02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:07,080 Speaker 1: have is a guy that can do that and play 2598 02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:09,240 Speaker 1: that role that Eddie played for them. Well that was 2599 02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:11,919 Speaker 1: really indispensable. So I think Aj is a better athlete 2600 02:11:12,280 --> 02:11:14,280 Speaker 1: that can play that role. I love what a J. 2601 02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:17,360 Speaker 1: Moore brings. Sticking on the defensive side of the ball, 2602 02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, the interior pass rush was a big deal 2603 02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:25,680 Speaker 1: this offseason trying to improve that. You got guys like 2604 02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:27,920 Speaker 1: Charles and many who Ross Black Block of course that 2605 02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:31,080 Speaker 1: was drafted in the high in the second round for 2606 02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:34,000 Speaker 1: the Texans. Was there anybody that is on the roster 2607 02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:36,200 Speaker 1: besides those two guys that you say, all right, they 2608 02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:39,880 Speaker 1: got some juice when it comes to interior pass rust 2609 02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:42,440 Speaker 1: that would maybe haven't seen because we haven't seen anything 2610 02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:44,720 Speaker 1: John everything that we're getting the second hand information. I 2611 02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:46,320 Speaker 1: haven't been able to go out to training camp. Is 2612 02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:49,120 Speaker 1: there anybody that you're kind of seeing there that they 2613 02:11:49,160 --> 02:11:52,360 Speaker 1: could potentially fill that role? Well, you know, from a 2614 02:11:52,840 --> 02:11:56,800 Speaker 1: from a Pastorage standpoint, I think Ross Ross, Ross and 2615 02:11:56,960 --> 02:11:59,040 Speaker 1: Charles are gonna be two guys Russ from the interior. 2616 02:11:59,080 --> 02:12:00,920 Speaker 1: I think those are gonna be the guys rusher from 2617 02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:03,360 Speaker 1: the interior, and I think they're gonna be pretty good. 2618 02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Now I've said, I've said all along that if the 2619 02:12:07,480 --> 02:12:11,520 Speaker 1: guy's on the edge, Jacob Martin, Whitney, Merciless, brand Scarlett, 2620 02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:13,520 Speaker 1: I really wish Duke edge for but gotta get John 2621 02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:15,240 Speaker 1: Grenard back. He's gonna be key to this. But if 2622 02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the guys in the edge show that they can win 2623 02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:20,440 Speaker 1: out on the edge and win consistently, then you have 2624 02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:24,960 Speaker 1: the luxury of moving JJ inside where you get JJ 2625 02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:28,080 Speaker 1: one on one on a guard, it's double swipe, rip 2626 02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:30,760 Speaker 1: under and away you go. He's getting to the quarterback. 2627 02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:33,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's a that's a great advantage. But 2628 02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:35,400 Speaker 1: you have to have guys went in from the edge 2629 02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:37,800 Speaker 1: to be able to allow JJ to move to move 2630 02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:42,360 Speaker 1: inside or even maybe not align inside, but loop inside 2631 02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:44,120 Speaker 1: like he did a few times last year. In fact 2632 02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:46,680 Speaker 1: interception and Whatdy mercill has had against the Saints, JJ 2633 02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:49,040 Speaker 1: looped inside and got in Drew Brees's face, moved them, 2634 02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:51,280 Speaker 1: moved them off the point and he throws the interception 2635 02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:53,800 Speaker 1: and that was huge in that game against the Saints 2636 02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:57,880 Speaker 1: early on. That's an advantage you have now, I think 2637 02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:01,120 Speaker 1: Albert Huggins has had a pretty good camp, but it's 2638 02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:03,960 Speaker 1: really been holding up against the run, probably more so 2639 02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:07,520 Speaker 1: than it's been rushing. The guy that has some dynamic 2640 02:13:07,640 --> 02:13:11,640 Speaker 1: ability and when you hear it, you're gonna be like, wait, 2641 02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:16,400 Speaker 1: what is PJ Hall? But it's I don't don't, I 2642 02:13:16,480 --> 02:13:20,080 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, he just worries me because he's 2643 02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:22,640 Speaker 1: a guy that and I covered him at sam Houston State. 2644 02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:24,880 Speaker 1: I called maybe six or seven of his games, and 2645 02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:27,600 Speaker 1: he was a guy that it's third down and you 2646 02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:30,160 Speaker 1: needed to have a play and PJ was gonna blow 2647 02:13:30,240 --> 02:13:32,320 Speaker 1: up three blockers. It gets to a quarterback and you're 2648 02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:35,160 Speaker 1: like your speech that's like, oh my god. But then 2649 02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:38,240 Speaker 1: for the next ten plays, you like PJ would just 2650 02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:40,960 Speaker 1: kind of go with the flow. He's got the ability 2651 02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:44,320 Speaker 1: to do it, he's got the leverage in the athleticism. 2652 02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:47,000 Speaker 1: His proje at sam Houston State was unbelievable and it's 2653 02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:49,680 Speaker 1: why the Raiders drafted him in the second round. But 2654 02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:52,320 Speaker 1: for some reason with the Raiders that never stuck. And 2655 02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:53,920 Speaker 1: then you hear Gruden say, well, you know, he's got 2656 02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:56,000 Speaker 1: to get himself in shape, he's got to get back 2657 02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:58,960 Speaker 1: in the right frame, and I think if he were, 2658 02:13:59,360 --> 02:14:01,240 Speaker 1: then I think j would be that guy. But I 2659 02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:04,440 Speaker 1: just don't know. I think he's really shown enough to 2660 02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:06,640 Speaker 1: do it. But I think he's got the ability to 2661 02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:09,760 Speaker 1: do it. That's that's the thing. But I just don't 2662 02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know as much as anything. I mean, 2663 02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,120 Speaker 1: you've seen talented guys in the league that just never 2664 02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:16,960 Speaker 1: came together for him, and they got shot after shot 2665 02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:19,800 Speaker 1: after shot, and they just never worked. So I think 2666 02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:23,640 Speaker 1: the guys that have been there, Charles and Ross, I 2667 02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:26,880 Speaker 1: think have been the two best guys on the interior, 2668 02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, with Donnie even Blacks and I think you're 2669 02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna get good run stuffer. That's what good run stuffs, 2670 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:35,840 Speaker 1: that's what they do. I think your more dynamic move 2671 02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:38,320 Speaker 1: is when you can move JJ inside to put with 2672 02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Charles and or Ross. I think that's gonna be your 2673 02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:44,160 Speaker 1: interior pass rush that creates some missue. But I think 2674 02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:47,040 Speaker 1: beyond that, I mean, I think Huggins has had a 2675 02:14:47,120 --> 02:14:49,400 Speaker 1: good camp, but I don't know that. You know, Carlos 2676 02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:52,520 Speaker 1: Watkins is a guy that the very first pass rush 2677 02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:54,600 Speaker 1: of the game, he'll look dominant, but then after that 2678 02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:58,800 Speaker 1: it's just it just kind of dies out. So I 2679 02:14:58,960 --> 02:15:01,360 Speaker 1: think if he really were to come along, boy, that 2680 02:15:01,400 --> 02:15:04,680 Speaker 1: would really help them out. But it just hasn't. It hasn't, 2681 02:15:05,320 --> 02:15:08,880 Speaker 1: hasn't gotten there yet, and I think I think maybe 2682 02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:10,480 Speaker 1: he's out of chances. I don't know. This is year 2683 02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:13,960 Speaker 1: three for him. It hasn't clicked yet. Maybe it's time 2684 02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:15,880 Speaker 1: to move on and let Ross and Charles really dominate 2685 02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:17,800 Speaker 1: the middle when it comes to the pass rush. Yeah. 2686 02:15:17,840 --> 02:15:19,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, when you talk about this 2687 02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:22,080 Speaker 1: defense this year, there's a lot of questions that people 2688 02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:24,320 Speaker 1: don't really have the answers to, and we're gonna find 2689 02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:27,080 Speaker 1: them out sooner. Sooner or later. We're eleven days away 2690 02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:30,200 Speaker 1: from the Texans taking on the biggest test that they're 2691 02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:33,280 Speaker 1: gonna see, at least on paper this season as far 2692 02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:35,880 Speaker 1: as a top notch offense in the Kansas City Chiefs. 2693 02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:37,720 Speaker 1: And so we got some new pieces that are in place, 2694 02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:39,839 Speaker 1: and got a lot of guys coming back. Zach Huntingham, 2695 02:15:39,840 --> 02:15:42,839 Speaker 1: of course, is one of them. Just sign an extension 2696 02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:45,360 Speaker 1: with the Texans four years, fifty eight million. So we'll 2697 02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:47,840 Speaker 1: see how those guys match up when they head up 2698 02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:51,720 Speaker 1: to Kansas City. Mentioned it earlier, kind of got off track. 2699 02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:53,120 Speaker 1: We had to flip it. 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This is the Texans Training Camp 2799 02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:32,680 Speaker 1: Special presented by Exfinity on Wade Smith joined by Seasi Shorts, 2800 02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:35,640 Speaker 1: our guy, Brandon Porter holding us down on the boards, 2801 02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:41,039 Speaker 1: and we got John Harris, mister sideline reporter and football 2802 02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:44,240 Speaker 1: analysts for the Houston Texans, joining us for the remaining 2803 02:21:44,280 --> 02:21:46,760 Speaker 1: of this hour. And before the breakout, brought up the 2804 02:21:46,840 --> 02:21:48,680 Speaker 1: fact that you know, the Texans are gonna have a 2805 02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:52,080 Speaker 1: bunch of options for Deshaun Watson. You got the two 2806 02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:55,200 Speaker 1: Johnsons in the backfield, Duke and David. You got your 2807 02:21:55,240 --> 02:21:58,800 Speaker 1: tidy end group with Jordan Aikins and Darren Fails. Jordan 2808 02:21:58,879 --> 02:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Thomas has had a pretty good training camp. You got 2809 02:22:02,320 --> 02:22:04,800 Speaker 1: your tight end position there, and of course you got 2810 02:22:04,879 --> 02:22:09,039 Speaker 1: the receivers. You got Brandon Cooks, Will Fuller, Randall, Cob, 2811 02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:14,200 Speaker 1: Kenny Steeles. There's a lot of options out there for 2812 02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:17,520 Speaker 1: the Texans to move the ball around, and but there's 2813 02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:21,720 Speaker 1: always somebody that emerges as the favorite and the go 2814 02:22:21,879 --> 02:22:24,720 Speaker 1: to guy for quarterbacks. I don't care where you look. 2815 02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:27,840 Speaker 1: Every quarterback has their favorite, that guy that they trust 2816 02:22:27,959 --> 02:22:30,720 Speaker 1: the most. And John, I wanted to get your opinion 2817 02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:32,880 Speaker 1: on this because you've been out there at training camp 2818 02:22:32,920 --> 02:22:36,959 Speaker 1: all this this entire preseason, and you've seen the day 2819 02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:38,360 Speaker 1: in and day out, and a lot of these guys 2820 02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:40,720 Speaker 1: really haven't got as many reps because they you know, 2821 02:22:40,800 --> 02:22:43,320 Speaker 1: they're ramping up at different schedules. But there was a 2822 02:22:43,400 --> 02:22:45,920 Speaker 1: guy that you would say, this Guy's going to emerge 2823 02:22:46,320 --> 02:22:50,360 Speaker 1: as Deshaun Watson's favorite target this season. Who would that 2824 02:22:50,440 --> 02:22:55,280 Speaker 1: guy be? It's a guy covered by a linebacker. And 2825 02:22:55,480 --> 02:22:57,400 Speaker 1: I say that, and I'll give you an example of 2826 02:22:57,440 --> 02:22:59,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'll answer that a little bit more 2827 02:23:00,000 --> 02:23:01,440 Speaker 1: our death of the second way, but I'll tell you 2828 02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:05,360 Speaker 1: why I say that Deshawn's gotten I think really really 2829 02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:11,400 Speaker 1: good at looking examining the defense, knowing what the defense 2830 02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:13,720 Speaker 1: is doing, and then picking it apart. And here's a 2831 02:23:13,720 --> 02:23:16,040 Speaker 1: great example. So the other night in the scrimmage, they 2832 02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:20,000 Speaker 1: come out and they're in empty They got three receivers 2833 02:23:20,040 --> 02:23:21,840 Speaker 1: to the right, they got two to the left, and 2834 02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:25,440 Speaker 1: David Johnson is the slot on the left, and there 2835 02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:27,680 Speaker 1: is a tight end and two wide receivers on the right. 2836 02:23:28,520 --> 02:23:32,800 Speaker 1: So the safety, who I think was Anthony Chesley, was 2837 02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:36,760 Speaker 1: over David Johnson and I could see Terrell Adams walking 2838 02:23:36,840 --> 02:23:38,640 Speaker 1: over there, and I'm like, Terrell, don't do it. I 2839 02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:40,480 Speaker 1: was like, don't do not do it, and I knew 2840 02:23:40,480 --> 02:23:42,240 Speaker 1: exactly what he was gonna do. And that is the 2841 02:23:42,440 --> 02:23:47,000 Speaker 1: rule on this particular coverage is linebacker on back, safety 2842 02:23:47,160 --> 02:23:49,880 Speaker 1: on tight end. I was like, do not do it, 2843 02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:51,840 Speaker 1: because Terrell, the second that you go over to David 2844 02:23:51,879 --> 02:23:54,520 Speaker 1: Johnson to cover him, Sean Watson's go to throw that 2845 02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:58,080 Speaker 1: ball to David Johnson, I promise you, And Chesley looks 2846 02:23:58,120 --> 02:23:59,600 Speaker 1: at him like are you sure? And he goes and 2847 02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:01,480 Speaker 1: he runs over and he covers the tight end. Terrell 2848 02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:04,440 Speaker 1: saddles up in front of David Johnson was like, shouldn't 2849 02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:06,760 Speaker 1: have done it, And all of a sudden, David Johnson 2850 02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:11,360 Speaker 1: goes darts inside. Adams loses leverage because he bites on 2851 02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:14,800 Speaker 1: the outside fake Johnson runs the you know it basically 2852 02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:17,480 Speaker 1: kind of a like a little circle route inside of him, 2853 02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:21,000 Speaker 1: and Deshan catches it, hits him twenty yard game. Adams 2854 02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:25,160 Speaker 1: is trailing and Johnson's off and running and that's gonna 2855 02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:28,440 Speaker 1: happen a lot, I think for teams against the Texans 2856 02:24:28,520 --> 02:24:31,640 Speaker 1: because they're not gonna know how exactly to match up. 2857 02:24:32,200 --> 02:24:35,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna look at and David Johnson could be a 2858 02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:39,039 Speaker 1: big key in that, because how do you match up 2859 02:24:39,080 --> 02:24:41,800 Speaker 1: with David Johnson? Because if you're thinking, ah, I'll just 2860 02:24:41,879 --> 02:24:45,400 Speaker 1: put a linebackground him, he'll have twenty catches that day, 2861 02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:49,040 Speaker 1: or he'll have ten. You going a halftime with only 2862 02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:51,039 Speaker 1: twelve minutes to try and figure out how you're gonna 2863 02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:53,960 Speaker 1: plan to stop number thirty one? Or do we have 2864 02:24:54,040 --> 02:24:56,120 Speaker 1: to double him? No, we gotta put a safety on him. Well, 2865 02:24:56,120 --> 02:24:57,680 Speaker 1: we put a safety on him. Well, what happens if 2866 02:24:57,720 --> 02:25:00,400 Speaker 1: they go? Well happens if they go with twelve personel 2867 02:25:00,440 --> 02:25:02,000 Speaker 1: and then they flex out the tight ends? How are 2868 02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:03,400 Speaker 1: we gonna cover the tight ends? I just put a 2869 02:25:03,440 --> 02:25:06,360 Speaker 1: linebacker on them. Well, we've seen what Darren Fells does 2870 02:25:06,440 --> 02:25:09,400 Speaker 1: the tight ends or I'm sorry, does the linebackers in 2871 02:25:09,480 --> 02:25:12,560 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons game where there's a short linebacker on 2872 02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:14,120 Speaker 1: him and he just held the ball over. He said 2873 02:25:14,120 --> 02:25:16,400 Speaker 1: like he had just dunked on him. So how are 2874 02:25:16,440 --> 02:25:19,280 Speaker 1: you gonna cover? Especially the interior guys? And if you're 2875 02:25:19,320 --> 02:25:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna do a linebacker. You can forget about it. Oh, 2876 02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:24,160 Speaker 1: we're smart, We're gonna take all our linebackers out, and 2877 02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:25,880 Speaker 1: then we're just gonna leave a bunch of safeties in 2878 02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:28,080 Speaker 1: the game. All right, Well, they'll put their two backs 2879 02:25:28,120 --> 02:25:30,480 Speaker 1: back there and they'll run the ball at you. Good luck. 2880 02:25:30,959 --> 02:25:32,720 Speaker 1: So you've got a lot of You've got a lot 2881 02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:36,080 Speaker 1: of ways to really hurt them. But I knew when 2882 02:25:36,160 --> 02:25:38,240 Speaker 1: I saw David in the slot and I could see 2883 02:25:38,240 --> 02:25:40,320 Speaker 1: to I could see the thought bubble over Adam's head, 2884 02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:42,920 Speaker 1: which is I've got I'm supposed to have the running back. 2885 02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:46,840 Speaker 1: He's mine. I'm going to him. Yeah, forget it, forget 2886 02:25:46,879 --> 02:25:49,760 Speaker 1: it that that's gonna You're just gonna be eating out 2887 02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:51,560 Speaker 1: of the palm of their hand. I mean, it's just 2888 02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:53,640 Speaker 1: that easy. And I think that's what the Shawan is 2889 02:25:53,680 --> 02:25:55,680 Speaker 1: gonna take a lot up. So I do think that 2890 02:25:55,840 --> 02:25:59,280 Speaker 1: David Johnson is gonna end up being a recipient of 2891 02:25:59,400 --> 02:26:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot of that. But the other night, when I 2892 02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:07,160 Speaker 1: saw will Fuller back in the lineup, I know how 2893 02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:11,360 Speaker 1: much to Sean enjoys throwing to him, and I know 2894 02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:14,320 Speaker 1: why he enjoys throwing to him and to Brandon Cooks, 2895 02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:17,160 Speaker 1: and part of it is that those guys can get 2896 02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:22,920 Speaker 1: to their spots on routes faster than anybody. So DeShawn 2897 02:26:22,959 --> 02:26:25,480 Speaker 1: doesn't get to the top of his drop and have 2898 02:26:25,640 --> 02:26:28,039 Speaker 1: to wait. He gets to the top of his drop 2899 02:26:28,120 --> 02:26:31,080 Speaker 1: and he releases because those guys are getting to their 2900 02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:33,400 Speaker 1: routes and into their routes where they need to be 2901 02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:36,960 Speaker 1: faster than anybody. I don't know that I've seen anybody 2902 02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:40,800 Speaker 1: outside of Cecil's shorts run the deep over route and 2903 02:26:40,959 --> 02:26:42,960 Speaker 1: get to the spot that Brandon Cooks got to the 2904 02:26:43,000 --> 02:26:45,960 Speaker 1: other day. I'm like, he got there so fast he 2905 02:26:46,040 --> 02:26:49,119 Speaker 1: almost beat Deshawan to his drop point, Like Deshaun almost 2906 02:26:49,120 --> 02:26:51,080 Speaker 1: had to throw it before he got back there because 2907 02:26:51,160 --> 02:26:54,160 Speaker 1: Cooks was breaking into the opening. And I'm like, holy cow. 2908 02:26:54,920 --> 02:26:58,080 Speaker 1: I do think it's gonna be Fuller, And obviously that 2909 02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:00,720 Speaker 1: is if he can stay healthy. But I do think 2910 02:27:00,840 --> 02:27:05,440 Speaker 1: that teams realize that and they know, hey, when Fuller's 2911 02:27:05,440 --> 02:27:08,120 Speaker 1: out there, they're different. So we've got to take him away. 2912 02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:11,360 Speaker 1: So if they take him away, it's Cooks. If they don't, 2913 02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:14,240 Speaker 1: it's Fuller. Have both of them is going to be dangerous. 2914 02:27:14,440 --> 02:27:16,720 Speaker 1: But in the end, the sneaky one that could be 2915 02:27:16,879 --> 02:27:19,160 Speaker 1: the beneficiary of a lot of It is gonna end 2916 02:27:19,240 --> 02:27:21,480 Speaker 1: up being either thirty one or twenty five those two 2917 02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:25,000 Speaker 1: running backs. I love your answer because it's literally going 2918 02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:27,600 Speaker 1: to be I just thinking back in the in the past, 2919 02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:30,440 Speaker 1: when you had DeAndre Hopkins here, right and it's third down, 2920 02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:32,959 Speaker 1: everybody know, guess what they're going to hop? Fourth down, 2921 02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:34,640 Speaker 1: guess what you're going to hop And I mean still 2922 02:27:34,680 --> 02:27:38,600 Speaker 1: it was successful because Hope is who he is. But 2923 02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:41,760 Speaker 1: now you have so many weapons, right, it's gonna be 2924 02:27:41,879 --> 02:27:43,959 Speaker 1: like from left and right when he's reading the defense, Okay, 2925 02:27:44,120 --> 02:27:47,680 Speaker 1: who is going to be my victim? Oh oh, I 2926 02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:50,680 Speaker 1: got a linebacker on Duke Johnson. We're going right there. 2927 02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:53,120 Speaker 1: So it's like as a defense, it's it's a no 2928 02:27:53,240 --> 02:27:56,080 Speaker 1: win situation like it's it's it's it's it's gonna be tough. 2929 02:27:56,120 --> 02:27:57,920 Speaker 1: You can put five dbs in a few of you 2930 02:27:58,000 --> 02:28:00,160 Speaker 1: want to, like you mentioned, okay, cool, Luke, what two 2931 02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:04,400 Speaker 1: backs in the game, right, and we're okay when when 2932 02:28:04,480 --> 02:28:06,480 Speaker 1: you got um you're gonna think you're gonna put the 2933 02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:08,960 Speaker 1: linebackers or whatever case, Maybe there is in a good situation. 2934 02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:12,160 Speaker 1: But going back to running back, there is a lot 2935 02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:16,000 Speaker 1: of guys outside of Johnson and Johnson, right, you gotta 2936 02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:19,760 Speaker 1: Higden and you got some younger guys. Buddy, how Buddy, 2937 02:28:19,840 --> 02:28:22,880 Speaker 1: how special teams? Guru? And there's one more guy can't 2938 02:28:22,920 --> 02:28:27,240 Speaker 1: think of his name stillis how many backs do they keep? 2939 02:28:28,200 --> 02:28:30,440 Speaker 1: And then who who? Who are the guys? Because outside 2940 02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:32,360 Speaker 1: the big two, I'm not I figured Buddy maybe, but 2941 02:28:32,520 --> 02:28:34,720 Speaker 1: Higden from what I hear, is not looking too bad either. 2942 02:28:35,600 --> 02:28:38,360 Speaker 1: You know the thing about the thing about Buddy, which 2943 02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:41,440 Speaker 1: is always gonna get Buddy in advantage to be the 2944 02:28:41,560 --> 02:28:47,120 Speaker 1: number three guy is that is he plays so well 2945 02:28:47,160 --> 02:28:50,880 Speaker 1: on special teams and that's where that's where you just 2946 02:28:51,920 --> 02:28:54,120 Speaker 1: you cannot in this league. And you guys know this. 2947 02:28:54,240 --> 02:28:55,880 Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm preaching the car and this. You 2948 02:28:55,959 --> 02:28:57,920 Speaker 1: can't be in number three running back and not playing 2949 02:28:57,959 --> 02:29:00,280 Speaker 1: special teams. Like, what's your role in as team while 2950 02:29:00,280 --> 02:29:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm the number three running back? Well, I mean, what 2951 02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:04,200 Speaker 1: does that mean? You get a touch a game? You 2952 02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:08,240 Speaker 1: can maybe get two touches a game. I mean really, now, 2953 02:29:08,320 --> 02:29:10,760 Speaker 1: there there are certain certain circumstances where that's happened. Like 2954 02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:12,920 Speaker 1: Philadelphia when they won a Super Bowl in twenty seventeen, 2955 02:29:12,959 --> 02:29:15,240 Speaker 1: they used all three backs, and they found different things 2956 02:29:15,320 --> 02:29:17,119 Speaker 1: for all three backs to do, and they're all they're 2957 02:29:17,120 --> 02:29:20,280 Speaker 1: all different. But in most cases the third running back 2958 02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:22,360 Speaker 1: and it's a touch or two a game, you've gotta 2959 02:29:22,400 --> 02:29:24,240 Speaker 1: be You've got to contribute on special teams. O. By 2960 02:29:24,240 --> 02:29:26,400 Speaker 1: the way, those Eagles I mentioned Corey Clement was the 2961 02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:31,040 Speaker 1: third back. He did participate on special teams. So that's 2962 02:29:31,080 --> 02:29:33,920 Speaker 1: what Higden will have to do and replace if he 2963 02:29:34,120 --> 02:29:39,200 Speaker 1: does overtake Buddy. How but Karan runs it hard, you know, 2964 02:29:39,280 --> 02:29:41,480 Speaker 1: Buddy runs it hard. The problem for Karan, though, has 2965 02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:45,000 Speaker 1: been fumbles in camp. It's just he's been just spitting 2966 02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:47,039 Speaker 1: a bit, basically, just putting the ball on the ground, 2967 02:29:47,120 --> 02:29:49,840 Speaker 1: and that is not gonna make anybody happy. Buddy's not 2968 02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna fumble. He's gonna hang on to it. Look, you 2969 02:29:51,640 --> 02:29:53,080 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get with Buddy. If you need 2970 02:29:53,120 --> 02:29:54,720 Speaker 1: three or four yards and buddies running the ball, he 2971 02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:56,560 Speaker 1: didn't get you three or four yards. It's not gonna 2972 02:29:56,600 --> 02:29:58,280 Speaker 1: be dynamic. But he's just gonna put his head down 2973 02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:00,120 Speaker 1: and get you three or four yards. You know. He's 2974 02:30:00,520 --> 02:30:02,680 Speaker 1: probably a little bit more dynamic than Alfred Blue in 2975 02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:05,800 Speaker 1: that sense, but they're similar in that they're really good 2976 02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:08,680 Speaker 1: on special teams, but your number three back needs to 2977 02:30:08,760 --> 02:30:10,840 Speaker 1: be that guy, not where Alfred was the number one 2978 02:30:10,879 --> 02:30:14,440 Speaker 1: back in some cases. But I think it's probably Buddy. Now, 2979 02:30:14,600 --> 02:30:16,720 Speaker 1: what kind of throws a monkey wrench into all this 2980 02:30:16,879 --> 02:30:20,760 Speaker 1: is is Gilly, because Gilly's been banged up and you 2981 02:30:20,920 --> 02:30:23,640 Speaker 1: really would like to have Gilly as a part of 2982 02:30:23,680 --> 02:30:27,360 Speaker 1: the offense. I mean, Gilly is kind of the really 2983 02:30:27,720 --> 02:30:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, fancy you know GPS system you put into 2984 02:30:31,800 --> 02:30:34,959 Speaker 1: your car that you can use. It's not gonna run 2985 02:30:35,000 --> 02:30:37,000 Speaker 1: the car any better, but you like using it and 2986 02:30:37,080 --> 02:30:38,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool. You can show your friends like, hey, 2987 02:30:38,879 --> 02:30:40,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of neat to have this, but you don't 2988 02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:42,080 Speaker 1: use it all the time because you kind of know 2989 02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:44,800 Speaker 1: where you're going. That's kind of Gilly. You really like 2990 02:30:44,920 --> 02:30:46,800 Speaker 1: to have him with the offense, but you need him 2991 02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:49,200 Speaker 1: on special teams, and him being banged up is really 2992 02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:52,879 Speaker 1: not being great. I think they keep four. Gilly is four, 2993 02:30:53,600 --> 02:30:55,640 Speaker 1: but I think they end up having to pick between 2994 02:30:55,760 --> 02:30:58,320 Speaker 1: Howe and Higden and it comes down to special teams, 2995 02:30:58,360 --> 02:31:00,080 Speaker 1: and I think Buddy's gonna win that. But I you 2996 02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:03,640 Speaker 1: think they'll try and bring Karan Higden back practice squad. 2997 02:31:04,160 --> 02:31:07,200 Speaker 1: But if Kuran over the next week starts to show something, 2998 02:31:07,320 --> 02:31:09,720 Speaker 1: then they're gonna have to force feed him into the 2999 02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:12,040 Speaker 1: special teams part of it. And I don't know how 3000 02:31:12,160 --> 02:31:15,320 Speaker 1: that works out for him and for the team. 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It's back to football and you're 3097 02:36:44,600 --> 02:36:48,440 Speaker 1: back on the sideline at training Camp with Texans Radio. 3098 02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:54,320 Speaker 1: This is the Texas Training Camp Special presented by ex Affinity. 3099 02:36:54,400 --> 02:36:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm Wade Smith, joined by Season Shortz. We have John Harris, 3100 02:36:58,520 --> 02:37:01,200 Speaker 1: football analyst for the Houstons Texans, on the line with 3101 02:37:01,320 --> 02:37:03,400 Speaker 1: us right now. This is last segment we'll have with 3102 02:37:03,560 --> 02:37:06,600 Speaker 1: Johnny and I talked about it before the break that 3103 02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:09,200 Speaker 1: this game is gonna come down to matchups. There's gonna 3104 02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:11,440 Speaker 1: be some matchups that I feel like there some of 3105 02:37:11,800 --> 02:37:14,640 Speaker 1: the most important matchups in this game. When the Texas 3106 02:37:14,680 --> 02:37:17,840 Speaker 1: play against Kent City Chiefs in eleven days. It's coming here. 3107 02:37:17,920 --> 02:37:20,320 Speaker 1: It's I'm getting excited, man, because it's it's almost here. 3108 02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:22,520 Speaker 1: It's about to happen. It's about to go down to 3109 02:37:22,560 --> 02:37:24,080 Speaker 1: the end of There's a lot of stuff that's led 3110 02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:26,240 Speaker 1: up to this point, but we're actually about to get 3111 02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:29,880 Speaker 1: some football played. So I'm excited about it. But there's 3112 02:37:29,920 --> 02:37:31,920 Speaker 1: some matchups that I wanted to get your insight on 3113 02:37:32,840 --> 02:37:35,560 Speaker 1: John and one of them, the first one that's the 3114 02:37:35,680 --> 02:37:39,760 Speaker 1: marquee matchup in my opinion, is JJ wat Vertus versus 3115 02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:43,480 Speaker 1: Mitchell Shorts. You got JJ coming off of UM. You know, 3116 02:37:43,560 --> 02:37:45,960 Speaker 1: he had the peck surgery last year. He was able 3117 02:37:46,000 --> 02:37:48,480 Speaker 1: to fight his way back playing the playoff game, but 3118 02:37:48,600 --> 02:37:51,400 Speaker 1: he wasn't fully JJ. He wasn't you know, the guy 3119 02:37:51,520 --> 02:37:53,760 Speaker 1: that you you're used to seeing out there because he 3120 02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:56,760 Speaker 1: was fresh off effects surgery and he you know, he 3121 02:37:57,320 --> 02:37:59,240 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be the best that you could get out 3122 02:37:59,280 --> 02:38:01,879 Speaker 1: of JJ. But this year you're getting JJ in one 3123 02:38:01,959 --> 02:38:04,600 Speaker 1: hundred percent. You're getting fresh JJ. He really hasn't done 3124 02:38:04,680 --> 02:38:07,680 Speaker 1: much this all season as far as just doing eleven 3125 02:38:07,720 --> 02:38:09,800 Speaker 1: on eleven work with the team. But you got the 3126 02:38:09,879 --> 02:38:12,200 Speaker 1: best right tackle, arguably the best right tackle in the 3127 02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:15,279 Speaker 1: game against JJ Whiten. How do you see that matchup 3128 02:38:15,320 --> 02:38:20,480 Speaker 1: shaking out on September ten? Well, what do they say? 3129 02:38:20,600 --> 02:38:24,240 Speaker 1: We're smarter, not harder UM. And this kind of goes 3130 02:38:24,280 --> 02:38:27,640 Speaker 1: back to my comment earlier that what if you put 3131 02:38:27,760 --> 02:38:31,039 Speaker 1: JJ inside then he doesn't go against Mitchell Schwartz, then 3132 02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:34,800 Speaker 1: you let Mitchel Schwartz protect against Brent Scarlett or Jacob 3133 02:38:34,840 --> 02:38:39,240 Speaker 1: Martin or Whitney, and JJ is going against the fill 3134 02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:44,200 Speaker 1: in for uh Laurent DuVernay Tardief. Now it's it's clutch 3135 02:38:45,560 --> 02:38:47,560 Speaker 1: Ossemily good grief. I used to know how to say 3136 02:38:47,600 --> 02:38:49,280 Speaker 1: that name. Really well, I know why I'm blanking on 3137 02:38:49,360 --> 02:38:52,960 Speaker 1: it now. But anyways, well, Semenly is not what he was, 3138 02:38:53,720 --> 02:38:58,400 Speaker 1: but I think he's as good as LDT was. But 3139 02:38:58,959 --> 02:39:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm m sure have JJ go against him, then I 3140 02:39:01,400 --> 02:39:04,280 Speaker 1: would against Mitchell Schwartz. I was one of the charter 3141 02:39:04,360 --> 02:39:06,520 Speaker 1: members of the Mitchell Schwartz fan Club and it happened 3142 02:39:06,520 --> 02:39:08,320 Speaker 1: when he was a sophomore at Cow's watching him a 3143 02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:10,280 Speaker 1: bowl game against Miami, I'm like, man, this tackle is 3144 02:39:10,400 --> 02:39:13,240 Speaker 1: killing people. Who is this? And I saw his Mitchell 3145 02:39:13,240 --> 02:39:17,080 Speaker 1: Schwartz like, oh, his brother's Jeff Okay, so yeah, this guy. 3146 02:39:17,320 --> 02:39:18,840 Speaker 1: It runs in the family. And then he's just gotten 3147 02:39:18,879 --> 02:39:21,840 Speaker 1: better and better and better by the year. And you're right, 3148 02:39:21,879 --> 02:39:23,560 Speaker 1: he is the best right tackle in the game. I 3149 02:39:23,680 --> 02:39:25,680 Speaker 1: do think it's a key matchup when those two are 3150 02:39:25,760 --> 02:39:29,199 Speaker 1: matched up. And what JJ has to learn and all 3151 02:39:29,280 --> 02:39:31,920 Speaker 1: of these guys have to learn, these edge rushers, especially 3152 02:39:32,040 --> 02:39:35,879 Speaker 1: from that side, is that's where Patrick likes to escape, 3153 02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:40,280 Speaker 1: and if they take their rush too shallow, then he'll 3154 02:39:40,360 --> 02:39:44,080 Speaker 1: go out around them. If they go too high, he'll 3155 02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:47,360 Speaker 1: dart up underneath and get out out there. So they 3156 02:39:47,480 --> 02:39:50,160 Speaker 1: have to take up you know, JJ, and whoever is 3157 02:39:50,200 --> 02:39:53,040 Speaker 1: rushing at that spot has to think a lot like 3158 02:39:53,200 --> 02:39:57,720 Speaker 1: Frank Clark did. Frank Clark knew that Dashaun would escape 3159 02:39:57,760 --> 02:40:01,520 Speaker 1: and go if Frank went high on his rus. Frank 3160 02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:03,840 Speaker 1: knew just go right back down the way that he 3161 02:40:03,959 --> 02:40:06,720 Speaker 1: came and Deshaun run right into him. And that's what 3162 02:40:06,840 --> 02:40:09,160 Speaker 1: he did in that playoff game. He got the Shawn 3163 02:40:09,200 --> 02:40:11,000 Speaker 1: because he knew if he went high to Sean would 3164 02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:13,280 Speaker 1: go underneath and trying to escape to the right, and 3165 02:40:13,480 --> 02:40:15,560 Speaker 1: Frank just ran up and you know, right tackles trying 3166 02:40:15,560 --> 02:40:17,600 Speaker 1: to block him, and Frank's going up and he's going 3167 02:40:17,720 --> 02:40:19,680 Speaker 1: right back and the right tackle hasn't even touched him, 3168 02:40:19,840 --> 02:40:22,480 Speaker 1: and Frank's making a sack because Frank knew he could 3169 02:40:22,520 --> 02:40:24,800 Speaker 1: force him that way. So the Texans have to be 3170 02:40:24,879 --> 02:40:28,480 Speaker 1: cognizant of Mahomes doing that because the plays that Mahomes made. 3171 02:40:28,560 --> 02:40:31,120 Speaker 1: Look he made plenty throws from the pocket, don't get 3172 02:40:31,160 --> 02:40:33,640 Speaker 1: me wrong, but the plays he really killed the Texans 3173 02:40:33,959 --> 02:40:37,200 Speaker 1: were where he was able to escape contain, especially to 3174 02:40:37,400 --> 02:40:40,080 Speaker 1: that right side. In the second quarter, it was all 3175 02:40:40,120 --> 02:40:42,720 Speaker 1: those runs he had to their sideline, and then in 3176 02:40:42,800 --> 02:40:44,960 Speaker 1: the third quarter he was escaping and getting out to 3177 02:40:44,959 --> 02:40:47,680 Speaker 1: our sideline and running right past me. And I wanted 3178 02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:49,840 Speaker 1: to just like trip him, but I like him, so 3179 02:40:49,920 --> 02:40:52,760 Speaker 1: I didn't do it. But it is. It is gonna 3180 02:40:52,760 --> 02:40:55,240 Speaker 1: be a big matchup. But the Texans have to be 3181 02:40:55,520 --> 02:41:00,480 Speaker 1: really smart about how they attack that because if they do, 3182 02:41:00,920 --> 02:41:04,000 Speaker 1: if JJ wants to rush high with the speed rush, 3183 02:41:04,440 --> 02:41:06,680 Speaker 1: he's got to be able to then say, Okay, I'm 3184 02:41:06,720 --> 02:41:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to redirect at some point to fold back 3185 02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:11,960 Speaker 1: in and see if I can't get mahomes when he 3186 02:41:12,040 --> 02:41:15,320 Speaker 1: starts to get out that way. So you know they're 3187 02:41:15,320 --> 02:41:20,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to be really really strict about good pass 3188 02:41:20,920 --> 02:41:23,680 Speaker 1: rush discipline. Week six, they had a little bit of 3189 02:41:23,680 --> 02:41:26,840 Speaker 1: an advantage because Pat was not as mobile, so he 3190 02:41:26,959 --> 02:41:29,320 Speaker 1: was a little bit more of a sitting duck. He'll 3191 02:41:29,400 --> 02:41:30,960 Speaker 1: be ready to go in this one, and I think 3192 02:41:31,000 --> 02:41:34,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna try and do similar things, And whoever rushes 3193 02:41:34,120 --> 02:41:37,560 Speaker 1: from that side has really got to be cognizant of 3194 02:41:37,840 --> 02:41:40,840 Speaker 1: how they go about it. The only way I think 3195 02:41:40,879 --> 02:41:42,840 Speaker 1: you really want to go a high side of Mitchell 3196 02:41:43,280 --> 02:41:45,200 Speaker 1: is if for some reason you get to jump off 3197 02:41:45,240 --> 02:41:47,280 Speaker 1: the ball and he's slow off the ball and you 3198 02:41:47,360 --> 02:41:49,760 Speaker 1: can make a quick you know, slap rip and go. 3199 02:41:50,760 --> 02:41:52,160 Speaker 1: That might be the only way to do it. But 3200 02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:53,959 Speaker 1: if you go hi, he's just gonna wash you up 3201 02:41:54,000 --> 02:41:57,160 Speaker 1: and then Mahomes is gonna come underneath. So if you 3202 02:41:57,320 --> 02:41:59,440 Speaker 1: know that the other part of it too is Anthony Weaver, 3203 02:42:00,000 --> 02:42:03,480 Speaker 1: then game planning that making sure that Okay, if JJ 3204 02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:06,280 Speaker 1: does rush high, then make sure that you know there's 3205 02:42:06,360 --> 02:42:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe if if you're a zone, there's a linebacker that 3206 02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:10,640 Speaker 1: maybe as Mahomes starts to get out of there, maybe 3207 02:42:10,680 --> 02:42:13,320 Speaker 1: you spy Zach on Mahomes. Maybe you do some different 3208 02:42:13,360 --> 02:42:16,320 Speaker 1: things to not allow Mahomes to do that. But I 3209 02:42:16,440 --> 02:42:18,520 Speaker 1: think that's a big matchup. But I wouldn't be surprised 3210 02:42:18,520 --> 02:42:22,880 Speaker 1: if JJ goes inside where he can just let loose inside, inside, outside. 3211 02:42:23,400 --> 02:42:25,480 Speaker 1: You know, look, if Mahomes gets pushed up the middle 3212 02:42:25,480 --> 02:42:27,000 Speaker 1: of the field, I'm much of that have that than 3213 02:42:27,120 --> 02:42:29,440 Speaker 1: him going off the outside. So JJ can kind of 3214 02:42:29,480 --> 02:42:31,280 Speaker 1: go balls to the wall from the inside, and maybe 3215 02:42:31,360 --> 02:42:33,000 Speaker 1: he'll want to do that in this game, going against 3216 02:42:33,160 --> 02:42:35,440 Speaker 1: a couple of guards that really aren't up to Mitchell 3217 02:42:35,480 --> 02:42:38,360 Speaker 1: Schwartz's level. For sure, I tell you what man I think, JJ, 3218 02:42:38,800 --> 02:42:41,400 Speaker 1: his plan of attack has to be something similar to this. 3219 02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:44,520 Speaker 1: You gotta rush Mitchell Schwartz if you do have that matchup, 3220 02:42:44,800 --> 02:42:47,120 Speaker 1: you have to rush him, not up or high, to 3221 02:42:47,720 --> 02:42:50,560 Speaker 1: try to win the rep and come free because if 3222 02:42:50,640 --> 02:42:53,240 Speaker 1: you make it, if you come free now the quarterback 3223 02:42:53,280 --> 02:42:55,000 Speaker 1: and see that and can adjust to it, you have 3224 02:42:55,120 --> 02:42:57,680 Speaker 1: to rush half for me and and take to where 3225 02:42:57,720 --> 02:43:00,320 Speaker 1: there's bodies in the way and you're using your arm 3226 02:43:00,400 --> 02:43:03,520 Speaker 1: and you're driving Mitchell back into the quarterbacks lab so 3227 02:43:03,680 --> 02:43:06,240 Speaker 1: that he really can't escape either highlow. To me, that's 3228 02:43:06,840 --> 02:43:09,400 Speaker 1: you have quarterbacks like like Mahomes. That's the that's the 3229 02:43:09,480 --> 02:43:11,000 Speaker 1: way you got to rush him. And JJ is a 3230 02:43:11,040 --> 02:43:14,080 Speaker 1: smart guy. I'm interested. I'm intrigued by this matchup because 3231 02:43:14,120 --> 02:43:15,960 Speaker 1: it's two of the best going at it right out 3232 02:43:16,000 --> 02:43:18,600 Speaker 1: the box. Yeah. Absolutely, And like you said, Wade, there's 3233 02:43:18,840 --> 02:43:23,520 Speaker 1: there's that that added element of what what rush game 3234 02:43:23,600 --> 02:43:26,240 Speaker 1: do you use? And when you when I think about JJ, 3235 02:43:26,520 --> 02:43:28,880 Speaker 1: you know he's had some some really good games. You know, 3236 02:43:28,959 --> 02:43:31,480 Speaker 1: Eli Manny had sacked him three times in twenty eighteen. 3237 02:43:31,520 --> 02:43:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, he always got after Andrew luck Andrew could 3238 02:43:33,400 --> 02:43:34,959 Speaker 1: get out of the pocket, but you know he didn't 3239 02:43:34,959 --> 02:43:38,959 Speaker 1: really want to um. But it's just that much different 3240 02:43:38,959 --> 02:43:44,160 Speaker 1: when you're rushing Philip Rivers versus Patrick Mahomes. So I'm 3241 02:43:44,240 --> 02:43:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see how what his game plan 3242 02:43:47,320 --> 02:43:49,760 Speaker 1: is and what Anthony weavers game plan is to make 3243 02:43:49,760 --> 02:43:52,160 Speaker 1: sure that Mahomes stays in the well to have to 3244 02:43:52,240 --> 02:43:57,520 Speaker 1: throw from there. Um next to Bradley robe Verse Tyreek Heel. 3245 02:43:57,680 --> 02:43:59,800 Speaker 1: Now these guys know each other well because Robie played 3246 02:43:59,800 --> 02:44:01,760 Speaker 1: again and some during his time when he was in 3247 02:44:01,800 --> 02:44:04,480 Speaker 1: the AFC West with Denver. But how do you feel 3248 02:44:04,560 --> 02:44:08,080 Speaker 1: like this is going to go? You know, of anybody 3249 02:44:08,200 --> 02:44:10,320 Speaker 1: in the league, And I know this sounds strange, but 3250 02:44:10,360 --> 02:44:13,000 Speaker 1: if anybody in the league that has success against Tyreek, 3251 02:44:13,040 --> 02:44:16,880 Speaker 1: it's Roby when he was with When Robie was with 3252 02:44:17,040 --> 02:44:19,240 Speaker 1: Denver the last year he was there, the two games 3253 02:44:19,280 --> 02:44:22,440 Speaker 1: against Tyreek, Tyreek had his lowest output and in a 3254 02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:25,760 Speaker 1: pretty good year for him, and that was against Roby. 3255 02:44:25,840 --> 02:44:27,720 Speaker 1: And and so I went back and I watched those 3256 02:44:27,800 --> 02:44:31,280 Speaker 1: games specifically, and I watched when Robie had Tyreek one 3257 02:44:31,360 --> 02:44:34,480 Speaker 1: on one, and Robie did a nice job of staying 3258 02:44:34,520 --> 02:44:38,320 Speaker 1: with TYREEKUM. And I think Robe probably does a little 3259 02:44:38,360 --> 02:44:40,600 Speaker 1: bit better against the quicker receivers as opposed to the 3260 02:44:40,680 --> 02:44:43,680 Speaker 1: bigger ones. You know, He's got such quick feet and 3261 02:44:43,920 --> 02:44:46,840 Speaker 1: does a pretty good job of not holding and grasping 3262 02:44:47,720 --> 02:44:49,720 Speaker 1: and sort of catching receivers, so he can kind of 3263 02:44:49,720 --> 02:44:51,960 Speaker 1: stay with him. But he uses his feet very well 3264 02:44:52,320 --> 02:44:55,279 Speaker 1: against Tyreek. The irony is Tyreek had two touchdowns against 3265 02:44:55,400 --> 02:44:58,800 Speaker 1: us in Week six. We won that game. Tyreek didn't 3266 02:44:58,840 --> 02:45:01,520 Speaker 1: do a lot in the playoff game, and they drove 3267 02:45:01,640 --> 02:45:05,720 Speaker 1: us into the ground. So as much as I fear Tyreek, 3268 02:45:05,800 --> 02:45:08,600 Speaker 1: and I know we all do, we all fear Tyreek, 3269 02:45:08,680 --> 02:45:11,160 Speaker 1: we can't let this guy go off. I think Robie 3270 02:45:11,280 --> 02:45:13,600 Speaker 1: is a guy that that takes that challenge. It takes 3271 02:45:13,640 --> 02:45:15,600 Speaker 1: it pretty seriously, and I think he'll end up with 3272 02:45:15,680 --> 02:45:18,880 Speaker 1: that challenge. Um. And let's say, I don't worry about 3273 02:45:18,920 --> 02:45:20,760 Speaker 1: that too much. You know, Tyreek's gonna get his but 3274 02:45:20,840 --> 02:45:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, Robie, because of his experience against Tyreek had 3275 02:45:25,440 --> 02:45:27,119 Speaker 1: that's at least that's a good thing. You're not You're 3276 02:45:27,160 --> 02:45:28,880 Speaker 1: not throwing a rookie out there, you know. If the 3277 02:45:28,959 --> 02:45:31,160 Speaker 1: Jags play the Chiefs. You know, C. J. Henderson's gonna 3278 02:45:31,160 --> 02:45:33,600 Speaker 1: see Tyreek for the first time. I mean, Tyreek's gonna 3279 02:45:33,600 --> 02:45:36,680 Speaker 1: have fifteen catches for eight hundred yards, um, because seeing 3280 02:45:36,760 --> 02:45:38,880 Speaker 1: you for the first time has gotta just I mean, 3281 02:45:38,959 --> 02:45:42,760 Speaker 1: that's gotta be a religious experience. But Robie's not gonna 3282 02:45:42,760 --> 02:45:44,640 Speaker 1: back down. Robe's seen him twice a year for the 3283 02:45:44,760 --> 02:45:47,560 Speaker 1: last how many ever years, So he's not going back 3284 02:45:47,600 --> 02:45:49,840 Speaker 1: down from it. And I think, Yeah, that's gonna be here. 3285 02:45:49,879 --> 02:45:52,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great matchup, I think, and I know. 3286 02:45:53,000 --> 02:45:54,800 Speaker 1: The one that we'll get to, I'm sure is what 3287 02:45:54,879 --> 02:45:58,240 Speaker 1: do we do about Kelsey? Because when Kelsey has played us, 3288 02:45:58,760 --> 02:46:01,760 Speaker 1: when Kelsey has gone off, the Chiefs have won. It's 3289 02:46:01,800 --> 02:46:04,400 Speaker 1: almost a direct correlation. When he has gone off. In 3290 02:46:04,480 --> 02:46:07,360 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, Cecil, when y'all play in that first game 3291 02:46:07,360 --> 02:46:11,039 Speaker 1: of the year, Kelsey had two touchdowns and we get 3292 02:46:11,120 --> 02:46:13,760 Speaker 1: we get beat. We play him the next year twenty sixteen, 3293 02:46:14,200 --> 02:46:16,199 Speaker 1: A J. Boyer locks him up, he has two catches, 3294 02:46:16,240 --> 02:46:18,480 Speaker 1: We win that game. You know. Twenty seventeen, he has 3295 02:46:18,520 --> 02:46:20,000 Speaker 1: a pretty good game on the Sunday night and they 3296 02:46:20,040 --> 02:46:24,960 Speaker 1: win playoff game. He goes off just recently and they 3297 02:46:25,000 --> 02:46:26,959 Speaker 1: win Week six, we kind of held him in check. 3298 02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:29,440 Speaker 1: We win. Yeah, he's a real he's a real key, 3299 02:46:29,760 --> 02:46:31,880 Speaker 1: and I'm not That's the one where I'm kind of like, Man, 3300 02:46:31,959 --> 02:46:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what to do with him 3301 02:46:35,360 --> 02:46:38,480 Speaker 1: because I just don't think you can treat him like 3302 02:46:39,400 --> 02:46:42,080 Speaker 1: a tight end. And the Texans don't. They don't treat 3303 02:46:42,160 --> 02:46:44,959 Speaker 1: him like a tight end. They put either their best 3304 02:46:45,000 --> 02:46:48,400 Speaker 1: safety on him, Justin Reid, or they put Lonnie Johnson 3305 02:46:48,480 --> 02:46:52,600 Speaker 1: on him. They don't allow Kelsey to go against a 3306 02:46:52,680 --> 02:46:56,080 Speaker 1: linebacker at all. Then if they do, if it's Zach, 3307 02:46:56,480 --> 02:46:59,000 Speaker 1: they give help to double him. And I think that's 3308 02:46:59,040 --> 02:47:00,920 Speaker 1: probably what they're gonna end up doing. I think they're 3309 02:47:00,920 --> 02:47:03,840 Speaker 1: probably gonna have to use a couple of different guys. 3310 02:47:03,879 --> 02:47:06,160 Speaker 1: And you talked earlier, and we talked earlier about a J. Moore. 3311 02:47:06,520 --> 02:47:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that AJ is the guy 3312 02:47:08,360 --> 02:47:10,880 Speaker 1: to cover Travis Kelsey, but you know, maybe what he 3313 02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:13,600 Speaker 1: ends up being is a guy that, in tandem with 3314 02:47:14,320 --> 02:47:19,440 Speaker 1: another cover guy, can help limit Kelsey through a bunch 3315 02:47:19,520 --> 02:47:22,039 Speaker 1: of different brackets and double teams or whatever the case 3316 02:47:22,160 --> 02:47:24,560 Speaker 1: might be. But I think you have to take out 3317 02:47:25,080 --> 02:47:28,360 Speaker 1: Kelsey because whenever he has had great games against us. 3318 02:47:28,760 --> 02:47:32,080 Speaker 1: They win. Whenever we have limited his impact, we've won. 3319 02:47:32,400 --> 02:47:35,400 Speaker 1: And it's it's not that simple, but I do think 3320 02:47:35,480 --> 02:47:37,760 Speaker 1: to slow that offense down, if you can take out 3321 02:47:37,879 --> 02:47:41,760 Speaker 1: that element, the Kelsey element, and really slow it down, 3322 02:47:41,920 --> 02:47:44,000 Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's when that offense goes to 3323 02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:46,280 Speaker 1: a different level, is when he is clicking, and when 3324 02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:49,160 Speaker 1: mahomes and here clicking, then it's really trouble. The next 3325 02:47:49,280 --> 02:47:52,400 Speaker 1: matchup I have with the Texans versus Kensity Chiefs is 3326 02:47:52,480 --> 02:47:55,039 Speaker 1: more of a chess match, and this is the Shaun 3327 02:47:55,160 --> 02:47:57,880 Speaker 1: Watson versus Thym Matthew. I think when you look at 3328 02:47:57,920 --> 02:48:01,000 Speaker 1: Tym Matthew, he's one of those safeties that prides himself 3329 02:48:01,080 --> 02:48:03,520 Speaker 1: on being able to know what the quarterback is thinking. 3330 02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:05,600 Speaker 1: The fact that he was here with the Texans for 3331 02:48:05,760 --> 02:48:08,720 Speaker 1: a year, he kind of understands what Bill O'Brien is 3332 02:48:08,760 --> 02:48:12,279 Speaker 1: thinking and what the offensive philosophy is. He made plays 3333 02:48:12,360 --> 02:48:14,800 Speaker 1: last year and playoffs against the Texans. How do you 3334 02:48:14,879 --> 02:48:18,280 Speaker 1: see that matchup, Deshauna Watson versus Ti Matthews. Yeah, the 3335 02:48:18,360 --> 02:48:20,920 Speaker 1: one thing you want to do wait, and this kind 3336 02:48:20,920 --> 02:48:22,920 Speaker 1: of goes back to our discussion a little earlier about 3337 02:48:22,959 --> 02:48:26,880 Speaker 1: empty formations. Is you want to make sure that you 3338 02:48:27,280 --> 02:48:32,760 Speaker 1: catch Tie or you force Tie into playing man coverage. Yes, 3339 02:48:33,240 --> 02:48:36,440 Speaker 1: you force him into playing man coverage. What you want 3340 02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:40,640 Speaker 1: to stay away from is letting Tie sit back there 3341 02:48:40,680 --> 02:48:45,039 Speaker 1: and zone and read eyes and read routes and jump routes. 3342 02:48:45,240 --> 02:48:47,959 Speaker 1: That's to me, when time Matthew is at his best 3343 02:48:48,080 --> 02:48:50,400 Speaker 1: when he's sitting back there and he's floating and he's 3344 02:48:50,440 --> 02:48:52,960 Speaker 1: just reading eyes and he can take chances and he 3345 02:48:53,080 --> 02:48:56,000 Speaker 1: can take some calculated risks. That's when he's gonna come 3346 02:48:56,120 --> 02:48:59,120 Speaker 1: up with ball plays. But if you force him to 3347 02:48:59,400 --> 02:49:02,160 Speaker 1: have to hover, and the Texans did that on the 3348 02:49:02,280 --> 02:49:05,400 Speaker 1: first drive of the game in the playoff game. They 3349 02:49:05,560 --> 02:49:08,000 Speaker 1: forced him to have to come up and cover, and 3350 02:49:08,080 --> 02:49:11,640 Speaker 1: they stuck Will in the slot and so ties on Will, 3351 02:49:12,560 --> 02:49:15,800 Speaker 1: and Will just smoked him off the ball. The Sean 3352 02:49:15,920 --> 02:49:18,280 Speaker 1: flifted to him and ended up getting a big first down. 3353 02:49:18,280 --> 02:49:19,640 Speaker 1: I think I was third down that got that on 3354 02:49:19,920 --> 02:49:21,560 Speaker 1: and ended up getting a big first down. And So 3355 02:49:21,680 --> 02:49:24,280 Speaker 1: when Ty was asked this offseason, who's the toughest guy 3356 02:49:24,320 --> 02:49:27,119 Speaker 1: who had to guard he said Will Fuller, Well, exactly 3357 02:49:27,240 --> 02:49:29,320 Speaker 1: because he had to come up and play man coverage. 3358 02:49:30,320 --> 02:49:33,040 Speaker 1: He can handle certain players and man coverage, Like, could 3359 02:49:33,080 --> 02:49:35,200 Speaker 1: he stay with Fells all around the field, Sure, could 3360 02:49:35,200 --> 02:49:37,640 Speaker 1: he stay with Jordan Nakins all over the field. Probably, 3361 02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:40,160 Speaker 1: But if you throw a bunch of if you throw 3362 02:49:40,280 --> 02:49:42,840 Speaker 1: David Johnson out there with a bunch of receivers and 3363 02:49:43,080 --> 02:49:44,680 Speaker 1: now he has to come up and play one of 3364 02:49:44,720 --> 02:49:47,480 Speaker 1: those guys one on one, I think you have an advantage. 3365 02:49:47,920 --> 02:49:50,040 Speaker 1: And so the more that you can force him into 3366 02:49:50,080 --> 02:49:52,920 Speaker 1: playing man, and I would guess he would be the 3367 02:49:53,040 --> 02:49:55,960 Speaker 1: guy going to man coverage as opposed to one Thornhill. 3368 02:49:56,320 --> 02:49:59,560 Speaker 1: I think if Thornhill were one hundred percent healthy, then 3369 02:49:59,640 --> 02:50:01,640 Speaker 1: I think might be the other way around, where Thornhill 3370 02:50:01,800 --> 02:50:04,000 Speaker 1: might draw the man and then ty I could sit 3371 02:50:04,040 --> 02:50:05,560 Speaker 1: in the middle and float in the middle of the 3372 02:50:05,600 --> 02:50:08,000 Speaker 1: field playing cover one. But Thornhill is coming off that 3373 02:50:08,080 --> 02:50:11,280 Speaker 1: acl tear, and then when it's Dan Sorenson out there, 3374 02:50:11,600 --> 02:50:13,879 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you want Dan Sorenson playing man. 3375 02:50:14,360 --> 02:50:16,880 Speaker 1: You're you're gonna probably pick Tyrn Matthew to play man 3376 02:50:16,959 --> 02:50:19,560 Speaker 1: over somebody. So depending on how they go with it, 3377 02:50:19,600 --> 02:50:21,360 Speaker 1: I think Tie is gonna end up having to cover 3378 02:50:21,720 --> 02:50:23,640 Speaker 1: in man coverage or they're gonna play his zone. If 3379 02:50:23,680 --> 02:50:25,760 Speaker 1: they play his zone, then Deshaun should be able to 3380 02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:29,120 Speaker 1: pick and choose his spots in the zone. If they're 3381 02:50:29,120 --> 02:50:31,640 Speaker 1: gonna play man, then I think you can attack Tyrant 3382 02:50:31,680 --> 02:50:35,320 Speaker 1: from that perspective because you've got receivers that can beat 3383 02:50:35,440 --> 02:50:39,440 Speaker 1: him in man coverage. So I like the matchup. But 3384 02:50:39,520 --> 02:50:41,720 Speaker 1: if but if he's allowed, if you get the third 3385 02:50:41,760 --> 02:50:44,720 Speaker 1: and twelve and now they can play, you know, they 3386 02:50:44,760 --> 02:50:46,840 Speaker 1: can play two man and ties one of the safeties, 3387 02:50:46,840 --> 02:50:48,440 Speaker 1: playing over the top where he can just float and 3388 02:50:48,520 --> 02:50:50,880 Speaker 1: reach you. You're done. You're dead. He'll kill you. He'll 3389 02:50:50,879 --> 02:50:53,359 Speaker 1: absolutely kill you. But if you get yourself in situations 3390 02:50:53,400 --> 02:50:57,160 Speaker 1: where first and ten you're attacking, and you're attacking and 3391 02:50:57,240 --> 02:50:58,920 Speaker 1: you're going at them, so where you could set up 3392 02:50:58,920 --> 02:51:01,280 Speaker 1: second in two and they're like, crap, all right, we're 3393 02:51:01,320 --> 02:51:02,920 Speaker 1: gonna bring a little heat now. So now he's gonna 3394 02:51:02,920 --> 02:51:05,400 Speaker 1: play man. You burn him there, You run your up tempo, 3395 02:51:05,400 --> 02:51:06,800 Speaker 1: and you kind of keep him in the same look. 3396 02:51:06,959 --> 02:51:09,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine. But you can't get yourself in 3397 02:51:09,640 --> 02:51:11,560 Speaker 1: second and long, third and long because he'll just sit 3398 02:51:11,600 --> 02:51:14,240 Speaker 1: back there and zone coverage, playing over the top of things, 3399 02:51:14,280 --> 02:51:16,640 Speaker 1: and then eat you up. I agree, I agree totally 3400 02:51:16,720 --> 02:51:18,160 Speaker 1: with that. You put him in man coverage with the 3401 02:51:18,200 --> 02:51:20,560 Speaker 1: speed that you have a receiver or the shiftiness of 3402 02:51:20,600 --> 02:51:22,280 Speaker 1: the of the running backs, you're in good shape. But 3403 02:51:22,320 --> 02:51:24,080 Speaker 1: if you just let him be a playmaker, you just 3404 02:51:24,200 --> 02:51:25,960 Speaker 1: let him do what he feels comfortable with, then you're 3405 02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:29,840 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna struggle. Okay, next matchup, guard to guard 3406 02:51:30,080 --> 02:51:33,520 Speaker 1: and then versus Chris Jones. Now real quick, Hope I 3407 02:51:33,640 --> 02:51:35,920 Speaker 1: had to be checked on this because I'm thinking, abou, 3408 02:51:35,920 --> 02:51:37,680 Speaker 1: who's the guards gonna be with Chris Jones. Chris Jones' 3409 02:51:37,680 --> 02:51:39,680 Speaker 1: boos around, he's gonna be in the three technique's gonna 3410 02:51:39,680 --> 02:51:41,440 Speaker 1: be the one technique. He's gonna be all all through 3411 02:51:41,560 --> 02:51:44,640 Speaker 1: the So guard to guards, so guard, center guard versus 3412 02:51:44,680 --> 02:51:47,760 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, I think you almost have to create. And 3413 02:51:48,080 --> 02:51:49,760 Speaker 1: the thing is is you won't have any experience of 3414 02:51:49,840 --> 02:51:51,800 Speaker 1: facing him because you're facing me the time last year. 3415 02:51:52,240 --> 02:51:54,119 Speaker 1: I think you have to treat Chris Jones a lot 3416 02:51:54,160 --> 02:51:58,280 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald, and that is you're gonna have to 3417 02:51:58,320 --> 02:52:01,119 Speaker 1: force everybody else to win. Aarony and Titus are gonna 3418 02:52:01,120 --> 02:52:03,040 Speaker 1: have to be one on one outside on Clark and 3419 02:52:03,480 --> 02:52:06,560 Speaker 1: whoever else is out there on the outside. And then 3420 02:52:06,720 --> 02:52:11,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to devote two to Jones, because that 3421 02:52:11,320 --> 02:52:14,480 Speaker 1: joker is as good as it gets on the inside. 3422 02:52:14,600 --> 02:52:16,120 Speaker 1: The other thing you have to be able to do 3423 02:52:16,840 --> 02:52:18,640 Speaker 1: is when you run the ball, you have to hit 3424 02:52:18,720 --> 02:52:21,720 Speaker 1: that guy with six hundred pounds of people because you've 3425 02:52:21,760 --> 02:52:25,000 Speaker 1: got to wear him down. He is an absolute problem. 3426 02:52:25,200 --> 02:52:29,720 Speaker 1: But he's a problem when teams get lackadaisical and they 3427 02:52:29,879 --> 02:52:32,840 Speaker 1: just slide a protection and it's one guy on him, 3428 02:52:33,120 --> 02:52:35,560 Speaker 1: They've you've got to devote a couple of guys to him. 3429 02:52:35,720 --> 02:52:37,440 Speaker 1: And I remember Aaron Donald in the Super Bowl saying 3430 02:52:37,480 --> 02:52:39,880 Speaker 1: to the Patriots, come on, man, he'll give me one 3431 02:52:39,920 --> 02:52:41,680 Speaker 1: on one. Come on, man, give me one on one. 3432 02:52:41,720 --> 02:52:44,279 Speaker 1: With the Patriots weren't stupid. Well, you can't be stupid 3433 02:52:44,280 --> 02:52:47,320 Speaker 1: against Chris Jones. Either you have to be able with 3434 02:52:47,959 --> 02:52:50,400 Speaker 1: Nick and Zach or you have to do with Nick 3435 02:52:50,440 --> 02:52:54,600 Speaker 1: and Sharping. You have to have two guys devoted to Jones, 3436 02:52:54,840 --> 02:52:59,040 Speaker 1: And whether that changes your protections up front, then so 3437 02:52:59,240 --> 02:53:02,320 Speaker 1: be it. But you can't. You cannot allow ninety five 3438 02:53:02,360 --> 02:53:05,560 Speaker 1: to wreck the game right up the middle where and 3439 02:53:05,840 --> 02:53:07,720 Speaker 1: I've said it forever. I mean, I know you want 3440 02:53:07,720 --> 02:53:09,600 Speaker 1: to have edge rushers and edg rushers get all, get 3441 02:53:09,600 --> 02:53:12,400 Speaker 1: all the money, But if you've got to if you've 3442 02:53:12,440 --> 02:53:15,279 Speaker 1: got a really good interior pocket pusher from the inside, 3443 02:53:15,760 --> 02:53:18,160 Speaker 1: like if Charles Manorhu and Ross Blacklock can do their 3444 02:53:18,200 --> 02:53:21,560 Speaker 1: think from the inside, that to me is so valuable 3445 02:53:21,680 --> 02:53:24,520 Speaker 1: because quarterbacks see that it's coming run at their feet. 3446 02:53:24,560 --> 02:53:27,039 Speaker 1: They don't know what to do when you've got pocket 3447 02:53:27,080 --> 02:53:28,960 Speaker 1: pusher run at you. I think that's why Donald is 3448 02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:31,240 Speaker 1: so tough to stop. So I think you've got it 3449 02:53:31,320 --> 02:53:33,280 Speaker 1: to vote a couple of guys to Chris Jones on 3450 02:53:33,400 --> 02:53:36,160 Speaker 1: nearly every play. And then when you run, even if 3451 02:53:36,200 --> 02:53:39,280 Speaker 1: you're running running zone, you've got to make sure that 3452 02:53:39,600 --> 02:53:41,600 Speaker 1: you know he's being hit ba bang, you know you're 3453 02:53:41,760 --> 02:53:46,400 Speaker 1: putting a physical pounding on him to slow him down, 3454 02:53:47,280 --> 02:53:49,320 Speaker 1: because that's really the only chance you're gonna have them 3455 02:53:49,400 --> 02:53:50,880 Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarter is that he starts to 3456 02:53:50,920 --> 02:53:53,360 Speaker 1: fatigue a little bit. And Okay, now at that point, 3457 02:53:53,400 --> 02:53:55,720 Speaker 1: maybe you can win someone on one matchups against him, 3458 02:53:55,720 --> 02:53:58,240 Speaker 1: but you better slow that joker down because if he's 3459 02:53:58,240 --> 02:54:00,640 Speaker 1: eating in the backfield, forget it. We're gonna be flying 3460 02:54:00,680 --> 02:54:03,000 Speaker 1: back with l Yeah. Chris Jones is one of those 3461 02:54:03,080 --> 02:54:06,320 Speaker 1: guys that he's best described by words that you can't 3462 02:54:06,480 --> 02:54:10,920 Speaker 1: use on the airway because it's got FCC. Yeah, yes, 3463 02:54:11,080 --> 02:54:14,280 Speaker 1: I tell you what there is. There's two words and 3464 02:54:14,360 --> 02:54:16,040 Speaker 1: one his mother and the other one you can't say. 3465 02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I know the two you're talking about it 3466 02:54:19,920 --> 02:54:21,800 Speaker 1: absolutely because I say that all the time. I see 3467 02:54:21,840 --> 02:54:24,160 Speaker 1: that guy like man and the thing was, you know, 3468 02:54:24,240 --> 02:54:27,280 Speaker 1: Missippi State. He's how mad did he get to be 3469 02:54:27,320 --> 02:54:30,200 Speaker 1: a second rounder? Well, Mississippi State because he just kind 3470 02:54:30,240 --> 02:54:32,400 Speaker 1: of went through the motions the second as a freshman's 3471 02:54:32,440 --> 02:54:34,920 Speaker 1: a stud the last two years he's calling man. You know, 3472 02:54:35,320 --> 02:54:37,160 Speaker 1: I think he was kind of saving himself for the NFL. 3473 02:54:37,360 --> 02:54:39,480 Speaker 1: Well he did a good job doing that because he's 3474 02:54:39,480 --> 02:54:43,000 Speaker 1: a stud, no question about it. Man, John Harris, appreciate 3475 02:54:43,120 --> 02:54:45,440 Speaker 1: you joining us. The album went by quick Man. It's 3476 02:54:45,480 --> 02:54:48,160 Speaker 1: always good to talk ball, which you. Appreciate you joining 3477 02:54:48,200 --> 02:54:52,120 Speaker 1: us on the Texans Training Camp special presented by Asfinity. Man, 3478 02:54:52,200 --> 02:54:55,240 Speaker 1: I have a great rest of your Sunday. Appreciate you guys. 3479 02:54:55,280 --> 02:54:56,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm gonna hang up to listen. 3480 02:54:57,400 --> 02:55:00,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's John Harris, football analyst for the Houston 3481 02:55:00,959 --> 02:55:04,800 Speaker 1: Texans and one half of Painted Pendergas Sean Pinner Gas 3482 02:55:05,240 --> 02:55:07,960 Speaker 1: has been the eyes and ears of Sports Radio sixteen 3483 02:55:08,040 --> 02:55:10,520 Speaker 1: for the duration of training camp. Let's get his input 3484 02:55:10,680 --> 02:55:13,560 Speaker 1: on what's veteran players that may have a bubbled us 3485 02:55:13,600 --> 02:55:16,440 Speaker 1: about to get burst and what he expects out of 3486 02:55:16,440 --> 02:55:21,280 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Texans Next. If you love podcast and 3487 02:55:21,480 --> 02:55:26,760 Speaker 1: you love the Texans, you'll love our Texans podcast, now 3488 02:55:26,840 --> 02:55:35,320 Speaker 1: available on iTunes and Houston Texans dot com. 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He's been the eyes and the 3607 03:02:03,120 --> 03:02:05,640 Speaker 1: years of Sports Radio sixteen for the duration of training camp. 3608 03:02:06,560 --> 03:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Want to get your input on which veteran players might 3609 03:02:12,560 --> 03:02:16,200 Speaker 1: get their bubbles burst in the next couple of days 3610 03:02:16,240 --> 03:02:18,560 Speaker 1: because we're up against it Thursday's cut down day. Is 3611 03:02:18,560 --> 03:02:22,200 Speaker 1: there any veterans Sean that you say to yourself, this 3612 03:02:22,520 --> 03:02:26,600 Speaker 1: might not be your year. They might be leaving in Houston, Texans. Yeah, 3613 03:02:26,800 --> 03:02:29,320 Speaker 1: that's a that's a really good question, Wade, because I 3614 03:02:29,959 --> 03:02:33,560 Speaker 1: this team is you know for a team that I 3615 03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:36,120 Speaker 1: don't think is viewed necessarily as a tippy top team 3616 03:02:36,160 --> 03:02:37,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think it's viewed as a potentially 3617 03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:40,360 Speaker 1: good team, but maybe not a great team yet. We'll see. 3618 03:02:41,800 --> 03:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Their roster is pretty solidified, you know. I feel like 3619 03:02:44,360 --> 03:02:47,199 Speaker 1: there's probably forty guys that are set that are gonna 3620 03:02:47,240 --> 03:02:49,280 Speaker 1: make this team, yeah, that we know about, like more 3621 03:02:49,320 --> 03:02:52,360 Speaker 1: than usual. Like I do that exercise every year a 3622 03:02:52,480 --> 03:02:55,520 Speaker 1: few times during training camp where I go, Okay, if 3623 03:02:55,680 --> 03:02:57,720 Speaker 1: if they were to play starting tomorrow, this is what 3624 03:02:57,840 --> 03:02:59,600 Speaker 1: the fifty three would look like, you know, and you 3625 03:02:59,680 --> 03:03:02,840 Speaker 1: do it after the first preseason game, the second preseason game. 3626 03:03:02,879 --> 03:03:04,600 Speaker 1: There's been no preseason game, so I've done it a 3627 03:03:04,640 --> 03:03:07,400 Speaker 1: couple of times, and more than any other year. For 3628 03:03:07,520 --> 03:03:09,600 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it feels like this team has more guys 3629 03:03:09,640 --> 03:03:11,800 Speaker 1: that I know are going to make the team. But 3630 03:03:11,920 --> 03:03:16,400 Speaker 1: if you're talking about veteran guys on this team, I 3631 03:03:16,560 --> 03:03:19,200 Speaker 1: think depending on how you define veteran, you know, like 3632 03:03:19,320 --> 03:03:21,720 Speaker 1: I like Carlos Watkins is a guy who's been on 3633 03:03:21,800 --> 03:03:24,720 Speaker 1: this team for three years now. You know, depending on 3634 03:03:24,920 --> 03:03:28,680 Speaker 1: how many defensive linemen they take into this season, depending 3635 03:03:28,720 --> 03:03:31,240 Speaker 1: on how they look at a guy like PJ. Hall, 3636 03:03:31,320 --> 03:03:33,280 Speaker 1: who they signed, who's got a lot of talent, but 3637 03:03:33,400 --> 03:03:35,680 Speaker 1: hasn't done much in practice and came in having to 3638 03:03:35,760 --> 03:03:38,360 Speaker 1: shed a little bit of weight. You know, Watkins is 3639 03:03:38,360 --> 03:03:40,960 Speaker 1: a guy who maybe fits that they have. They have 3640 03:03:41,080 --> 03:03:45,240 Speaker 1: some numbers at linebacker that are that are interesting, you know, 3641 03:03:45,320 --> 03:03:47,480 Speaker 1: like as a guy like Peter Columby was brought up 3642 03:03:47,520 --> 03:03:49,320 Speaker 1: today by O'Brien as a guy who's looked really good 3643 03:03:49,320 --> 03:03:51,560 Speaker 1: on special team. So I don't think he's in any 3644 03:03:51,640 --> 03:03:54,320 Speaker 1: sort of jeopardy, Like I don't think Dylan Cole's in jeopardy. 3645 03:03:54,360 --> 03:03:56,480 Speaker 1: But he hasn't done anything this camp yet. Like he's 3646 03:03:56,520 --> 03:03:59,840 Speaker 1: more likely to go on injured reserve than he is 3647 03:04:00,120 --> 03:04:03,560 Speaker 1: to get to get cut. And I think that's that's 3648 03:04:03,640 --> 03:04:05,680 Speaker 1: maybe the broader answer to your question is it's really 3649 03:04:05,760 --> 03:04:07,520 Speaker 1: hard to come up with with veteran guy, you know, 3650 03:04:07,560 --> 03:04:10,200 Speaker 1: like they signed Jalen Watkins this offseason. He's not a 3651 03:04:10,280 --> 03:04:12,720 Speaker 1: veteran with you know, he's a veteran in the league, 3652 03:04:12,800 --> 03:04:15,200 Speaker 1: but he's not necessarily a veteran with the Texans. So 3653 03:04:15,400 --> 03:04:18,840 Speaker 1: could he get caught up in a numbers game? Yeah maybe, um, 3654 03:04:19,280 --> 03:04:21,120 Speaker 1: like Vernon Hargraves, could he get caught up in a 3655 03:04:21,200 --> 03:04:23,800 Speaker 1: numbers game? Yeah, maybe that kind of thing At cornerback. 3656 03:04:24,320 --> 03:04:27,760 Speaker 1: But I think maybe the broader point is that the 3657 03:04:28,320 --> 03:04:31,720 Speaker 1: because of the coronavirus, having all this roster flexibility now 3658 03:04:32,520 --> 03:04:35,040 Speaker 1: that and and because there's veterans you can now put 3659 03:04:35,120 --> 03:04:37,920 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Yeah, we're probably gonna see fewer 3660 03:04:38,280 --> 03:04:41,560 Speaker 1: veterans than we've ever seen in a cutdown period because 3661 03:04:41,640 --> 03:04:43,720 Speaker 1: you can keep six of them on a practice squad, 3662 03:04:43,800 --> 03:04:46,039 Speaker 1: you know, if they can make it through waivers or whatever. 3663 03:04:46,200 --> 03:04:49,440 Speaker 1: You know, you you um there. You can put a 3664 03:04:49,480 --> 03:04:51,840 Speaker 1: guy on injured reserve and bring him back after three weeks, 3665 03:04:52,440 --> 03:04:55,240 Speaker 1: you know. So there's just more ways to keep guys 3666 03:04:55,280 --> 03:04:58,920 Speaker 1: around that you want than years passed, if you want to. Yeah, 3667 03:04:59,080 --> 03:05:01,000 Speaker 1: I want to hear you about experience being one of 3668 03:05:01,040 --> 03:05:04,840 Speaker 1: the ten ten, one of the ten by the lucky 3669 03:05:04,959 --> 03:05:06,959 Speaker 1: ten people that get to go to the scrimmage jail. 3670 03:05:07,080 --> 03:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Just how was that you mentioned that they announced all 3671 03:05:09,560 --> 03:05:12,320 Speaker 1: the players. The PA guy was still going, that's the 3672 03:05:12,480 --> 03:05:15,560 Speaker 1: Houston Texans first, that's right, man, Yeah, No, it was. 3673 03:05:15,840 --> 03:05:19,680 Speaker 1: It was wild. It was it was a scene. We 3674 03:05:19,800 --> 03:05:21,640 Speaker 1: were the ten of us. We like to call ourselves 3675 03:05:21,680 --> 03:05:24,480 Speaker 1: the Magnificent ten. There you go, we were. I call 3676 03:05:24,600 --> 03:05:27,280 Speaker 1: us that. If the other anybody who was in that 3677 03:05:27,360 --> 03:05:29,120 Speaker 1: are listening. They're like, we don't call ourselves that. What 3678 03:05:29,200 --> 03:05:30,760 Speaker 1: are you talking about? No, I call us well, who 3679 03:05:30,800 --> 03:05:32,320 Speaker 1: sits at at the head of the table of the 3680 03:05:32,360 --> 03:05:35,280 Speaker 1: magnificent probably McClain out of tenure, you know what I mean, 3681 03:05:35,320 --> 03:05:37,960 Speaker 1: because he's you know, he's he's a good um, you know, 3682 03:05:38,560 --> 03:05:40,400 Speaker 1: thirty or forty years older than the rest of us. 3683 03:05:40,440 --> 03:05:44,039 Speaker 1: So I'm John, I'm just kidding listening, I'm just joking. Um. 3684 03:05:44,520 --> 03:05:47,240 Speaker 1: It was it was wild. It was they were doing. 3685 03:05:47,520 --> 03:05:49,760 Speaker 1: They were trying to simulate a game day. Bill O'Brien 3686 03:05:49,959 --> 03:05:52,040 Speaker 1: was as best he could. And you guys are former players, 3687 03:05:52,040 --> 03:05:53,520 Speaker 1: so you can speak to this better than I can. 3688 03:05:54,040 --> 03:05:55,880 Speaker 1: But Seth has said that there is something too that 3689 03:05:56,000 --> 03:05:58,440 Speaker 1: when I brought it up on our show that especially 3690 03:05:58,480 --> 03:06:00,760 Speaker 1: for rookies who didn't get a chance of any preseason 3691 03:06:00,800 --> 03:06:03,440 Speaker 1: games this year, like they don't know when they're supposed 3692 03:06:03,480 --> 03:06:05,280 Speaker 1: to go out for the first set of warmups. They 3693 03:06:05,280 --> 03:06:07,000 Speaker 1: don't know when they're supposed to put on the pads 3694 03:06:07,000 --> 03:06:08,760 Speaker 1: and go out for the next set of warmups. They 3695 03:06:08,800 --> 03:06:11,560 Speaker 1: don't know what the process is as far as how 3696 03:06:11,560 --> 03:06:13,320 Speaker 1: you line up in the tunnel to go out onto 3697 03:06:13,360 --> 03:06:16,560 Speaker 1: the field. Little things like that. That can probably be 3698 03:06:16,800 --> 03:06:19,880 Speaker 1: a source of anxiety in week one or two. How 3699 03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:22,200 Speaker 1: short halftime is, yes, yeah, I mean did they go 3700 03:06:22,280 --> 03:06:26,400 Speaker 1: in and do a halftime? They did, Yeah, they absolutely 3701 03:06:26,440 --> 03:06:29,560 Speaker 1: they went in a halftime. So yeah, it was cecil. 3702 03:06:29,640 --> 03:06:32,720 Speaker 1: It was. It was a game day experience right down 3703 03:06:32,800 --> 03:06:36,119 Speaker 1: to the presentation of the game. You know, they replayed 3704 03:06:36,160 --> 03:06:38,879 Speaker 1: plays up on the JumboTron. You know, we looked up 3705 03:06:38,920 --> 03:06:42,320 Speaker 1: and watched replays up there. The announcer introduced the team. 3706 03:06:42,320 --> 03:06:44,280 Speaker 1: They didn't introduce them one by one, but they said, 3707 03:06:44,400 --> 03:06:48,080 Speaker 1: introducing the Houston Texans, who will come out as a team. Um, 3708 03:06:48,360 --> 03:06:52,680 Speaker 1: after first downs, this is another Houston Texans first down, 3709 03:06:52,959 --> 03:06:55,360 Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. They even they even 3710 03:06:55,400 --> 03:06:58,680 Speaker 1: played Clay Walker after twenty four yard field goals, which 3711 03:06:58,800 --> 03:07:01,240 Speaker 1: is is it sounds that's as Texan as it gets. 3712 03:07:01,920 --> 03:07:04,520 Speaker 1: That is that's a tradition like no other. Yeah, there 3713 03:07:04,720 --> 03:07:07,880 Speaker 1: were there coaches in the booths, Yes they were. There were. 3714 03:07:08,080 --> 03:07:10,000 Speaker 1: Now now Tim Kelly and Anthony Weaver are going to 3715 03:07:10,040 --> 03:07:11,800 Speaker 1: be on the sidelines up yere and I actually asked 3716 03:07:11,840 --> 03:07:14,240 Speaker 1: O'Brien about that earlier in training camp. Like, with no 3717 03:07:14,400 --> 03:07:18,280 Speaker 1: preseason games, how do you simulate a game situation for 3718 03:07:18,320 --> 03:07:20,480 Speaker 1: two guys who are calling plays for the first time, 3719 03:07:20,840 --> 03:07:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, Weaver and Tim Kelly, and O'Brien said that 3720 03:07:24,520 --> 03:07:26,480 Speaker 1: in that scrimmage, you know that that'll be a big 3721 03:07:26,560 --> 03:07:29,160 Speaker 1: part of it, in that scrimmage is creating situations for 3722 03:07:29,240 --> 03:07:32,240 Speaker 1: them that are as close to an actual game as 3723 03:07:32,280 --> 03:07:35,000 Speaker 1: it can possibly be. But yes, there were coaches up 3724 03:07:35,040 --> 03:07:38,039 Speaker 1: in the in the booth, but Weaver and Kelly are 3725 03:07:38,080 --> 03:07:39,880 Speaker 1: going to be down on the sidelines because O'Brien is 3726 03:07:39,920 --> 03:07:41,640 Speaker 1: a big believer that man. You've been working with these 3727 03:07:41,680 --> 03:07:44,200 Speaker 1: guys all week, you know, Kelly with Deshaun and the 3728 03:07:44,280 --> 03:07:48,760 Speaker 1: offensive players, Weaver with the defense that there's something to 3729 03:07:49,280 --> 03:07:52,040 Speaker 1: having them on the sideline in the heat of the 3730 03:07:52,120 --> 03:07:55,119 Speaker 1: battle and working with their guys face to face. He's 3731 03:07:55,120 --> 03:07:57,600 Speaker 1: a big believer in that. Yeah, there's another question that 3732 03:07:57,720 --> 03:07:59,800 Speaker 1: you asked Bill O'Brien and I gotta tuckle out of 3733 03:07:59,879 --> 03:08:02,920 Speaker 1: him earlier today. Had to do with the anniversary of 3734 03:08:03,200 --> 03:08:07,199 Speaker 1: the trades that were made last year with including Tumsul 3735 03:08:07,280 --> 03:08:10,600 Speaker 1: and Clowney and Martinez rankings, all those deals that was done. 3736 03:08:10,640 --> 03:08:13,280 Speaker 1: And he made that big chuckle and when he asked, 3737 03:08:13,400 --> 03:08:15,600 Speaker 1: when you asked him that question, he had to a 3738 03:08:15,760 --> 03:08:18,680 Speaker 1: no one at that time that the deal for Zach 3739 03:08:18,720 --> 03:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Cunningham was on the agenda like it was about to 3740 03:08:22,320 --> 03:08:25,400 Speaker 1: be made. So what do you make about that? That is, 3741 03:08:25,640 --> 03:08:27,400 Speaker 1: do you think this is a thing with Bill O'Brien 3742 03:08:27,520 --> 03:08:30,720 Speaker 1: that you know every year around August twenty nine, thirty 3743 03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:35,199 Speaker 1: thirty September one, we're gonna make a big time deal. 3744 03:08:35,320 --> 03:08:37,880 Speaker 1: And if you if you haven't been paying attention, if 3745 03:08:37,920 --> 03:08:40,560 Speaker 1: you just now tune into the show, Zach Cunningham just 3746 03:08:40,640 --> 03:08:43,080 Speaker 1: signed a four year extension for fifty eight million dollars. 3747 03:08:43,400 --> 03:08:46,400 Speaker 1: Big news for the Texans. Big news was Zach Cunningham. Um, 3748 03:08:46,560 --> 03:08:48,440 Speaker 1: when you when you go back and look at that, 3749 03:08:48,560 --> 03:08:50,400 Speaker 1: when you think about that question you asked it, and 3750 03:08:50,640 --> 03:08:52,039 Speaker 1: what he had to have been going through his head 3751 03:08:52,080 --> 03:08:54,120 Speaker 1: at the time, what do you make of that? Does 3752 03:08:54,160 --> 03:08:56,600 Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham do? I thought the exact same thing when 3753 03:08:56,640 --> 03:08:59,160 Speaker 1: the Cunningham deal came down. I thought the exact same thing. Wait, 3754 03:08:59,240 --> 03:09:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm like that open Ryan you when I asked him that, 3755 03:09:03,080 --> 03:09:05,879 Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, Brian, you can't trust that guy. Um 3756 03:09:06,200 --> 03:09:09,680 Speaker 1: just kidding, coach, if you're listening, But uh, I would say, um, 3757 03:09:10,560 --> 03:09:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, the start of the season for deals like this. 3758 03:09:13,720 --> 03:09:15,440 Speaker 1: The start of the season has always been sort of 3759 03:09:15,480 --> 03:09:18,280 Speaker 1: an artificial not even an artificial deadline, and the Rick 3760 03:09:18,360 --> 03:09:20,840 Speaker 1: Smith days it was a real deadline to get deals 3761 03:09:20,920 --> 03:09:23,560 Speaker 1: like that done. You remember Matt Shaw probably most famously, 3762 03:09:23,959 --> 03:09:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, after the opener in twenty twelve. I want 3763 03:09:26,480 --> 03:09:28,680 Speaker 1: to say, you guys played the Dolphins and after the game, 3764 03:09:28,720 --> 03:09:31,120 Speaker 1: there's a press conference because shop the night before it signed, 3765 03:09:31,520 --> 03:09:33,360 Speaker 1: maybe even the morning of the game whatever, it's signed, 3766 03:09:33,440 --> 03:09:36,560 Speaker 1: his contract extension. So at him funny too, after that 3767 03:09:36,720 --> 03:09:38,200 Speaker 1: is a side No, we looked at him. So you're 3768 03:09:38,200 --> 03:09:39,920 Speaker 1: just getting deals done the night before the game, and 3769 03:09:39,959 --> 03:09:42,200 Speaker 1: we're telling anybody how about the funny? Did he defer 3770 03:09:42,280 --> 03:09:43,680 Speaker 1: to his agent that because that's what you guys are 3771 03:09:43,720 --> 03:09:46,480 Speaker 1: supposed to do, right He just gave you a look 3772 03:09:46,520 --> 03:09:48,320 Speaker 1: and a looking like, hey man, you know it is 3773 03:09:48,360 --> 03:09:49,840 Speaker 1: what it is, and then we kept the movie. Yeah, 3774 03:09:49,840 --> 03:09:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, right, you're buying dinner, m no question, 3775 03:09:54,160 --> 03:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't you know. I don't know if this, 3776 03:09:56,440 --> 03:09:58,280 Speaker 1: like if this becomes an annual thing, but it's a 3777 03:09:58,400 --> 03:10:00,760 Speaker 1: logical time to get stuff like this done with the 3778 03:10:00,840 --> 03:10:04,520 Speaker 1: season being imminent, you know, roster cut down things like that, 3779 03:10:04,640 --> 03:10:06,920 Speaker 1: like O'Brien wants to know what the world is gonna 3780 03:10:06,959 --> 03:10:08,600 Speaker 1: look like here pretty soon, and he's gonna have a 3781 03:10:08,640 --> 03:10:11,560 Speaker 1: good idea obviously what his roster looks like later this week. 3782 03:10:11,800 --> 03:10:13,360 Speaker 1: This is stuff they've been working on, you know, And 3783 03:10:13,440 --> 03:10:16,400 Speaker 1: we'll see if Deshaun Watson gets his deal done before 3784 03:10:16,440 --> 03:10:19,480 Speaker 1: the season starts. You're right, he did chuckle when I 3785 03:10:19,560 --> 03:10:21,840 Speaker 1: brought up the anniversary. I didn't bring up what I 3786 03:10:21,920 --> 03:10:23,680 Speaker 1: call that Saturday too him because I thought that I 3787 03:10:23,760 --> 03:10:25,680 Speaker 1: call it swat meat Saturday is what I call it. 3788 03:10:27,680 --> 03:10:29,280 Speaker 1: If I had brought that up, I think you a coach, 3789 03:10:29,320 --> 03:10:31,560 Speaker 1: it's been the one year anniversary since swap meet Saturday. 3790 03:10:31,560 --> 03:10:33,199 Speaker 1: I don't think you would have laughed, he laughs, Because 3791 03:10:33,200 --> 03:10:35,480 Speaker 1: I just brought up the is the anniversary because I 3792 03:10:36,080 --> 03:10:37,879 Speaker 1: think he just thought it was funny that there's somebody 3793 03:10:37,920 --> 03:10:40,320 Speaker 1: out there who's actually looking at dates on stuff like this, 3794 03:10:40,600 --> 03:10:44,560 Speaker 1: you know. But I was genuinely curious, like we've got 3795 03:10:44,640 --> 03:10:46,920 Speaker 1: a year worth of data now, you know. And especially 3796 03:10:47,080 --> 03:10:49,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting him to necessarily throw any shade at 3797 03:10:49,920 --> 03:10:53,200 Speaker 1: Clowney or anything like that. But I would imagine that 3798 03:10:53,280 --> 03:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Jacob Martin has had a good training camp we'll see 3799 03:10:55,520 --> 03:10:57,880 Speaker 1: what happens with Conley, who they use that third pick 3800 03:10:58,280 --> 03:11:00,800 Speaker 1: to go get and they got in that deal. Yeah, um, 3801 03:11:01,120 --> 03:11:02,800 Speaker 1: and the Clowney is still out there on the market. 3802 03:11:03,040 --> 03:11:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that it makes that deal any more 3803 03:11:04,840 --> 03:11:06,840 Speaker 1: equitable for the Texans because they think you would have 3804 03:11:06,840 --> 03:11:09,440 Speaker 1: liked to see them get more for Clowney. But I 3805 03:11:09,520 --> 03:11:11,960 Speaker 1: tend to agree with O'Brien's assessment of it is we 3806 03:11:12,080 --> 03:11:15,880 Speaker 1: feel like taking in its totality that after those we 3807 03:11:15,920 --> 03:11:18,160 Speaker 1: were a better football team last year because of those trades, 3808 03:11:18,200 --> 03:11:21,000 Speaker 1: and we're a better football team going forward. The key now, guys, 3809 03:11:21,160 --> 03:11:23,680 Speaker 1: is they've got to be good this year so that 3810 03:11:23,840 --> 03:11:26,320 Speaker 1: that first round pick and second round pick that Miami 3811 03:11:26,400 --> 03:11:27,920 Speaker 1: is getting or at the back end of the first 3812 03:11:28,000 --> 03:11:30,120 Speaker 1: round and not at the end of the first round, 3813 03:11:30,240 --> 03:11:32,080 Speaker 1: where you know, if they go six and ten or 3814 03:11:32,160 --> 03:11:34,400 Speaker 1: something like that, big difference between picking ninth and picking 3815 03:11:34,440 --> 03:11:36,600 Speaker 1: twenty eighth, you know that kind of thing. Yeah, Miami's 3816 03:11:36,600 --> 03:11:38,000 Speaker 1: going to be a team to watch. You know. They 3817 03:11:38,040 --> 03:11:40,720 Speaker 1: got they got a lot of good young players on 3818 03:11:40,800 --> 03:11:42,400 Speaker 1: that roster, and they got a bunch of picks just 3819 03:11:42,480 --> 03:11:44,320 Speaker 1: from various people. They traded a bunch of guys away 3820 03:11:44,480 --> 03:11:46,680 Speaker 1: trade away Meeker Fitzpatrick, and of course they trade away 3821 03:11:46,680 --> 03:11:49,960 Speaker 1: toun Soil. They got a coach too. I think they're 3822 03:11:49,959 --> 03:11:52,160 Speaker 1: gonna be something to do with give me one guy. 3823 03:11:52,680 --> 03:11:55,520 Speaker 1: You had to pick one guy that nobody's really talking about, 3824 03:11:55,640 --> 03:11:57,280 Speaker 1: or it's kind of on the bubble that's going to 3825 03:11:57,360 --> 03:12:00,320 Speaker 1: make the team. Okay, a guy who's going to make 3826 03:12:00,360 --> 03:12:02,680 Speaker 1: the team, who's on the bubble. I I outlined earlier, 3827 03:12:02,720 --> 03:12:04,760 Speaker 1: there are not many there are not many bubble spots. 3828 03:12:04,800 --> 03:12:07,680 Speaker 1: Early in camp it was Chad Hanson, the wide receiver. 3829 03:12:08,120 --> 03:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Unfortunately in the scrimmage, he got tackled by Lonnie Johnson 3830 03:12:11,080 --> 03:12:13,800 Speaker 1: like legit like tackled like Lonnie came up. It was 3831 03:12:14,000 --> 03:12:15,840 Speaker 1: it was a quick you know, just a quick hitter 3832 03:12:15,920 --> 03:12:18,600 Speaker 1: to the outside. Yeah, and and Lonnie. Look, if it 3833 03:12:18,680 --> 03:12:20,039 Speaker 1: was a real game, you would have said, hell will 3834 03:12:20,080 --> 03:12:21,800 Speaker 1: play by Lonnie there to stop him for a two 3835 03:12:21,879 --> 03:12:24,200 Speaker 1: yard loss. I just don't think Chad Hanson was expecting 3836 03:12:24,840 --> 03:12:27,160 Speaker 1: to get tackled. And I think sometimes right when you're 3837 03:12:27,200 --> 03:12:29,760 Speaker 1: not expecting to get tackled, like you guys knowing if 3838 03:12:29,760 --> 03:12:31,440 Speaker 1: you're in a real game, like you're getting tackled, you 3839 03:12:31,520 --> 03:12:33,640 Speaker 1: sort of brace intense up your body a certain way. 3840 03:12:33,959 --> 03:12:36,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Hanson was clearly not expecting to get tackled, 3841 03:12:36,680 --> 03:12:38,000 Speaker 1: because then he got up and they were working on 3842 03:12:38,080 --> 03:12:40,720 Speaker 1: his shoulder, that kind of thing. So I think, wait, 3843 03:12:40,760 --> 03:12:44,680 Speaker 1: real quick, the line selling break after that, I don't 3844 03:12:44,760 --> 03:12:47,040 Speaker 1: remember that. That's the thing if he was. Now that 3845 03:12:47,080 --> 03:12:49,800 Speaker 1: was an intentional hit about Lonnie though, And I was 3846 03:12:49,840 --> 03:12:52,040 Speaker 1: gonna ask you this sun, does that make you a 3847 03:12:52,080 --> 03:12:55,200 Speaker 1: little bit apprehensive about Lonnie Johnson? Because last year he 3848 03:12:55,320 --> 03:12:57,520 Speaker 1: had issues with being a little bit too aggressive, a 3849 03:12:57,560 --> 03:12:59,840 Speaker 1: lot of penalties dealing with, you know, some of the 3850 03:13:00,000 --> 03:13:02,960 Speaker 1: bigger receivers he saw, dealing with Kelsey. Is that's something 3851 03:13:03,440 --> 03:13:06,200 Speaker 1: you know he would an effected. Hey, this guy, you 3852 03:13:06,320 --> 03:13:08,360 Speaker 1: know it's a third period. We're not tackling guys in 3853 03:13:08,400 --> 03:13:10,039 Speaker 1: the ground, but you're kind of showing a little bit 3854 03:13:10,080 --> 03:13:13,040 Speaker 1: of somewhat a lack of discipline. You think that concerns 3855 03:13:13,080 --> 03:13:15,400 Speaker 1: you at all? He was he was handsy throughout camp, 3856 03:13:15,480 --> 03:13:17,560 Speaker 1: still a little bit. You know, he'd improved on some 3857 03:13:17,680 --> 03:13:19,680 Speaker 1: of it, and he's improved his footwork and things like that. 3858 03:13:20,080 --> 03:13:22,240 Speaker 1: And right now he would be one of the starting 3859 03:13:22,280 --> 03:13:24,400 Speaker 1: corners if they were to play Kansas City tomorrow, like 3860 03:13:24,480 --> 03:13:26,640 Speaker 1: he was getting Gary and Conley has kind of taken 3861 03:13:26,680 --> 03:13:29,400 Speaker 1: a step back this training camp. I think Cecil To 3862 03:13:29,440 --> 03:13:31,080 Speaker 1: answer your question, I don't know if there's a guy 3863 03:13:31,160 --> 03:13:33,240 Speaker 1: who like is just floating around out there that nobody 3864 03:13:33,280 --> 03:13:35,120 Speaker 1: expects to make the team necessarily, But I think a 3865 03:13:35,160 --> 03:13:37,640 Speaker 1: guy who's gonna have a bigger role early on than 3866 03:13:37,680 --> 03:13:39,520 Speaker 1: maybe we thought he would because he's a rookie as 3867 03:13:39,600 --> 03:13:42,640 Speaker 1: John Reid, the cornerback out of Penn State. He's getting 3868 03:13:42,640 --> 03:13:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of love from the coaches. He has looked 3869 03:13:44,959 --> 03:13:47,520 Speaker 1: throughout camp and as I was taking my notes, I'm like, boy, 3870 03:13:47,520 --> 03:13:49,920 Speaker 1: I sure hope people who are smart about these things 3871 03:13:49,959 --> 03:13:52,120 Speaker 1: agree with me, and they did that. He's looked the 3872 03:13:52,240 --> 03:13:55,160 Speaker 1: part throughout camp like, he doesn't look overwhelmed. He's where 3873 03:13:55,160 --> 03:13:56,840 Speaker 1: he needs to be on the field. He's getting a 3874 03:13:56,879 --> 03:14:00,200 Speaker 1: lot of looks at doing different things, Gunner returned guy 3875 03:14:00,640 --> 03:14:02,440 Speaker 1: things like that. So they're putting a lot on his plate. 3876 03:14:02,480 --> 03:14:04,080 Speaker 1: They don't feel like it's too much for him. He's 3877 03:14:04,080 --> 03:14:08,000 Speaker 1: really he's a really smart guy, and there's there's potential 3878 03:14:08,160 --> 03:14:11,119 Speaker 1: for snaps at that slot corner where they've been playing 3879 03:14:11,160 --> 03:14:12,600 Speaker 1: him because of the ripple effect of what we just 3880 03:14:12,680 --> 03:14:15,840 Speaker 1: talked about. If if Gary and Connley's not ready to 3881 03:14:15,879 --> 03:14:17,800 Speaker 1: be one of the outside corners on this team to 3882 03:14:17,879 --> 03:14:20,000 Speaker 1: start out, then Roby's gonna have to move outside. I 3883 03:14:20,040 --> 03:14:21,640 Speaker 1: think the thought is that Roby would be the slot 3884 03:14:21,680 --> 03:14:23,240 Speaker 1: corner if you got the top three guys all on 3885 03:14:23,280 --> 03:14:26,960 Speaker 1: the field, Conley and Lonnie and Roby. If Connley's not 3886 03:14:27,040 --> 03:14:29,199 Speaker 1: ready to get on the field on a regular basis, 3887 03:14:29,440 --> 03:14:31,560 Speaker 1: then Roby and Lonnie are gonna stay on the outside, 3888 03:14:31,600 --> 03:14:34,240 Speaker 1: and that opens up some snaps at that slot corner. 3889 03:14:34,720 --> 03:14:38,000 Speaker 1: And John Reid's been when as I've been watching, John 3890 03:14:38,040 --> 03:14:40,640 Speaker 1: Reid's been getting beat less than Vernon Hargraves in that position. 3891 03:14:40,840 --> 03:14:43,080 Speaker 1: You know, Vernon's the veteran guy there who plays slot. 3892 03:14:43,480 --> 03:14:44,920 Speaker 1: But John Reid is a guy who the coaches I 3893 03:14:44,959 --> 03:14:47,080 Speaker 1: think clearly are gonna have some confidence in early on. 3894 03:14:47,200 --> 03:14:50,000 Speaker 1: So maybe not a bubble guy to make the team, 3895 03:14:50,080 --> 03:14:51,480 Speaker 1: but I think a guy who's a young guy who 3896 03:14:51,520 --> 03:14:53,720 Speaker 1: could get more playing time than we think early on. 3897 03:14:54,120 --> 03:14:55,880 Speaker 1: Sound we're up against it. But before we get you 3898 03:14:55,959 --> 03:15:00,040 Speaker 1: out of here, man this roster. Here's my prediction with 3899 03:15:00,160 --> 03:15:02,200 Speaker 1: keki Qt because he missed a bunch of practices with 3900 03:15:02,280 --> 03:15:05,000 Speaker 1: the foot injury. DeAndre Carter's had a really good camp, 3901 03:15:05,520 --> 03:15:07,520 Speaker 1: like a really good camp in O'Brien when he was 3902 03:15:07,600 --> 03:15:09,160 Speaker 1: listening guys, and I know you guys do the same 3903 03:15:09,200 --> 03:15:11,680 Speaker 1: forensics I do with this stuff. Is it if you 3904 03:15:11,840 --> 03:15:13,800 Speaker 1: listen to one of his answers to the press conference 3905 03:15:13,840 --> 03:15:16,400 Speaker 1: today about some of the questions about JJ Watt, like, 3906 03:15:17,200 --> 03:15:19,880 Speaker 1: do you do you have young guys watch JJ Watt 3907 03:15:19,959 --> 03:15:22,879 Speaker 1: do his thing to learn, you know, through leadership by 3908 03:15:22,920 --> 03:15:25,320 Speaker 1: example whatever. But he did his thing where he lists 3909 03:15:25,360 --> 03:15:28,040 Speaker 1: off other guys too. Yeah, and he listed off like 3910 03:15:28,200 --> 03:15:32,640 Speaker 1: core guys like Cooks and cob and and Deshaun and 3911 03:15:32,760 --> 03:15:35,039 Speaker 1: get and then he threw DeAndre Carter in there too. 3912 03:15:35,800 --> 03:15:37,680 Speaker 1: That's a pretty big tell, you know what I mean 3913 03:15:37,800 --> 03:15:39,320 Speaker 1: that this is a guy who's going to make the team. 3914 03:15:39,320 --> 03:15:41,720 Speaker 1: And the problem for Keki is DeAndre is going to 3915 03:15:41,800 --> 03:15:43,760 Speaker 1: be asked on the team to do all the things 3916 03:15:43,800 --> 03:15:45,400 Speaker 1: that I think Keki would be asked to do if 3917 03:15:45,400 --> 03:15:47,000 Speaker 1: he were on the team. That's a really tough thing 3918 03:15:47,040 --> 03:15:51,680 Speaker 1: to have. Redundancy with backup slot receiver who has return skills. 3919 03:15:51,959 --> 03:15:53,760 Speaker 1: I think Keky's got the higher seals sealing. But what 3920 03:15:53,840 --> 03:15:55,400 Speaker 1: I think to answer your question, what I think happens 3921 03:15:55,400 --> 03:15:59,280 Speaker 1: with Keki that injured reserve flexibility that we were talking 3922 03:15:59,280 --> 03:16:01,840 Speaker 1: about before. Think that foot injury probably crops up again 3923 03:16:01,920 --> 03:16:04,520 Speaker 1: a little bit conveniently and at least buys them a 3924 03:16:04,560 --> 03:16:06,120 Speaker 1: few more weeks to kind of decide what to do. 3925 03:16:06,160 --> 03:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Because I think if they let Kiki go, I think 3926 03:16:07,520 --> 03:16:10,160 Speaker 1: somebody would pick up Kiki qt. Yeah, would be my guess. 3927 03:16:10,240 --> 03:16:12,160 Speaker 1: You know, someone who pick him up off of waivers 3928 03:16:12,200 --> 03:16:14,360 Speaker 1: would be my guest. So that's what I think happens. Okay, 3929 03:16:14,440 --> 03:16:16,879 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think they forgot a way 3930 03:16:16,920 --> 03:16:19,240 Speaker 1: to maneuver with the different rules they have in place 3931 03:16:19,480 --> 03:16:21,480 Speaker 1: to be able to save the man. Appreciate you joining 3932 03:16:21,560 --> 03:16:24,760 Speaker 1: us Sean Stocking in after your national show, uh, dealing 3933 03:16:24,800 --> 03:16:27,800 Speaker 1: with the little people. Man, We appreciate that. Out here, 3934 03:16:28,800 --> 03:16:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to walk home, okay, to my new building. 3935 03:16:32,320 --> 03:16:33,960 Speaker 1: It's one point nine miles, so I gotta get my 3936 03:16:34,000 --> 03:16:35,959 Speaker 1: steps into. I'll be listening to you guys the rest 3937 03:16:36,000 --> 03:16:37,800 Speaker 1: of them. PJ. Hallen needs to talk to you about 3938 03:16:37,840 --> 03:16:40,240 Speaker 1: your soda weight loss deal man, But he can't lose 3939 03:16:40,280 --> 03:16:42,520 Speaker 1: too much. I mean, he needs to lose whatever so 3940 03:16:42,640 --> 03:16:45,440 Speaker 1: you can make this tea. I mean you're over there, Yeah, 3941 03:16:45,520 --> 03:16:50,080 Speaker 1: talk to him tomorrow. I'll get you thin. Yes, fellas, 3942 03:16:50,160 --> 03:16:53,600 Speaker 1: all right, appreciate the rosters aren't official, but in the 3943 03:16:53,680 --> 03:16:55,480 Speaker 1: minds of Bill O'Brien Jack used to be in the 3944 03:16:55,520 --> 03:16:57,720 Speaker 1: rest of the front office, they are set. What's it 3945 03:16:57,840 --> 03:17:00,680 Speaker 1: like to be on that bubble and whose is about 3946 03:17:00,680 --> 03:17:03,400 Speaker 1: the bust? On Thursday, we'll get that scalpel out and 3947 03:17:03,480 --> 03:17:09,160 Speaker 1: discussed with cecil. 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When 4028 03:22:05,720 --> 03:22:10,520 Speaker 1: there's answers will tell you first exclusive contact in sports 4029 03:22:10,640 --> 03:22:16,400 Speaker 1: Radio sixt the Texans play here, play keep Up with 4030 03:22:16,520 --> 03:22:21,320 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans everywhere you go downloads The Texans Hope Laps. 4031 03:22:27,920 --> 03:22:31,120 Speaker 1: It's the Texans Training Camp Special presented by Exfinity. On 4032 03:22:31,280 --> 03:22:34,400 Speaker 1: Wade Smith got my guys see some shorts one. I 4033 03:22:34,480 --> 03:22:37,800 Speaker 1: got two more segments left in the show, but hold 4034 03:22:37,840 --> 03:22:39,440 Speaker 1: you down at six o'clock. It go always a little 4035 03:22:39,480 --> 03:22:42,440 Speaker 1: fast man founds flies when you're having fun. And I 4036 03:22:42,560 --> 03:22:45,320 Speaker 1: mentioned it before the break that you know, this time 4037 03:22:45,360 --> 03:22:47,480 Speaker 1: of the year, there's a bunch of guys that are 4038 03:22:47,720 --> 03:22:51,240 Speaker 1: uncertain about what their roles are gonna be um with 4039 03:22:51,360 --> 03:22:53,680 Speaker 1: their franchise. And you're talking about the Houston, Texas. There's 4040 03:22:53,680 --> 03:22:55,320 Speaker 1: some veteran guys that have been here for a little 4041 03:22:55,320 --> 03:22:57,480 Speaker 1: bit of time that that might be on their way out. 4042 03:22:57,520 --> 03:22:59,520 Speaker 1: There's some such a news guys, new guys that are 4043 03:22:59,560 --> 03:23:02,000 Speaker 1: potentially be on their way in. But I know you 4044 03:23:02,120 --> 03:23:05,400 Speaker 1: and I both know what it's like to be on 4045 03:23:05,600 --> 03:23:07,640 Speaker 1: the bubble, what it's like to be in the locker 4046 03:23:07,720 --> 03:23:10,039 Speaker 1: room when you know in a couple of days, guys 4047 03:23:10,080 --> 03:23:12,840 Speaker 1: that are walking around right now aren't gonna be around. 4048 03:23:12,840 --> 03:23:14,560 Speaker 1: There's gonna be guys let go. And this year is 4049 03:23:14,600 --> 03:23:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit different than most because we 4050 03:23:16,600 --> 03:23:19,199 Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the show that hey, there's gonna 4051 03:23:19,240 --> 03:23:20,720 Speaker 1: be most of the guys that you see right now, 4052 03:23:20,760 --> 03:23:22,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of the same guys, just 4053 03:23:22,360 --> 03:23:25,240 Speaker 1: because this practice squad is gonna be larger, so there's 4054 03:23:25,280 --> 03:23:27,120 Speaker 1: not gonna be as many guys leaving. But you know, 4055 03:23:27,600 --> 03:23:29,800 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some guys that aren't gonna be around. 4056 03:23:29,879 --> 03:23:33,199 Speaker 1: But just take people into that what that mind frame 4057 03:23:33,400 --> 03:23:36,520 Speaker 1: is like personally, when you know, Okay, potentially I could 4058 03:23:36,560 --> 03:23:39,200 Speaker 1: potentially be one of the guys on that bubble. And 4059 03:23:39,280 --> 03:23:42,199 Speaker 1: then also what it's like to know that the guys 4060 03:23:42,240 --> 03:23:44,720 Speaker 1: around you that you've been training with this entire offseason 4061 03:23:45,320 --> 03:23:49,600 Speaker 1: could potentially be gone. It's it's tough, man, it really is. 4062 03:23:49,640 --> 03:23:53,160 Speaker 1: It's it's draining mentally because you're trying to battle. They 4063 03:23:53,160 --> 03:23:56,120 Speaker 1: always say in the locker room, control what you can control, right, 4064 03:23:56,360 --> 03:23:58,279 Speaker 1: It's like the biggest thing, control what you can control. 4065 03:23:58,360 --> 03:24:00,800 Speaker 1: But once you've been around a while, you kind of 4066 03:24:00,920 --> 03:24:04,360 Speaker 1: see how things go. So you got an idea, Okay, 4067 03:24:04,440 --> 03:24:05,960 Speaker 1: they did this in the draft, I did this in 4068 03:24:06,040 --> 03:24:08,520 Speaker 1: free agency. This is happening right now and camp they're 4069 03:24:08,560 --> 03:24:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna keep this many and amnta guys here this many amnicus, 4070 03:24:11,720 --> 03:24:14,000 Speaker 1: you're counter roster spot. So you was one of those 4071 03:24:14,000 --> 03:24:16,520 Speaker 1: guys Like, let me make sure early on I did 4072 03:24:16,879 --> 03:24:19,080 Speaker 1: I did I did this. It was just natural, like 4073 03:24:19,120 --> 03:24:21,039 Speaker 1: it's just a natural thing to do. Like I'm trying 4074 03:24:21,080 --> 03:24:22,560 Speaker 1: to make sure you're safe. You're trying to do everything 4075 03:24:22,600 --> 03:24:24,200 Speaker 1: you can do. But it's like, all right, your mind 4076 03:24:24,280 --> 03:24:27,920 Speaker 1: start going, Okay, if they keep eight dbs, that means 4077 03:24:27,920 --> 03:24:29,640 Speaker 1: they're only keep this many tight ends. That means it's 4078 03:24:29,640 --> 03:24:31,840 Speaker 1: only gonna be five receivers. Yeah you know what I mean. 4079 03:24:32,040 --> 03:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Or this guy's having a really good camp, or he 4080 03:24:33,959 --> 03:24:35,720 Speaker 1: just got hurt so they gotta they gotta go get 4081 03:24:35,760 --> 03:24:37,840 Speaker 1: a dtackle. It's just so many things that go into it. 4082 03:24:37,879 --> 03:24:40,080 Speaker 1: It's like you're gonna ruing yourself crazy. Now as I 4083 03:24:40,160 --> 03:24:43,840 Speaker 1: got older, it was like, just control, you control, Just 4084 03:24:44,040 --> 03:24:47,160 Speaker 1: just let whatever happens happens. I'm like listening. As long 4085 03:24:47,200 --> 03:24:48,840 Speaker 1: as I'm doing the best I can. I think I 4086 03:24:48,879 --> 03:24:51,240 Speaker 1: can hop on somewhere else. I don't want to, but 4087 03:24:51,320 --> 03:24:53,440 Speaker 1: I think I can hop on and figure out somewhere else. 4088 03:24:53,480 --> 03:24:55,800 Speaker 1: See that, and you make a great point. There are 4089 03:24:55,800 --> 03:24:58,480 Speaker 1: two things. The first thing I didn't realize you know 4090 03:24:58,600 --> 03:25:01,600 Speaker 1: how many other guys we're counting roster spot stuff that 4091 03:25:01,720 --> 03:25:04,960 Speaker 1: when I played, I did that. And even when even 4092 03:25:05,040 --> 03:25:07,120 Speaker 1: on situations where I knew I was gonna be I 4093 03:25:07,200 --> 03:25:08,879 Speaker 1: was a starter, I was gonna be on the team. 4094 03:25:09,120 --> 03:25:11,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about being released anything like that. But 4095 03:25:11,240 --> 03:25:13,800 Speaker 1: I used to try to figure things out, like how 4096 03:25:13,840 --> 03:25:15,480 Speaker 1: are they gonna go in this direction? Are they gonna 4097 03:25:15,520 --> 03:25:18,640 Speaker 1: keep an extra dB? Or they gonnae extra lineman, like 4098 03:25:18,760 --> 03:25:20,680 Speaker 1: which one of my boys is gonna be let go? 4099 03:25:20,800 --> 03:25:25,120 Speaker 1: All that type of stuff. But then also when you mentioned, hey, 4100 03:25:26,000 --> 03:25:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm not that worried about it because I know I 4101 03:25:28,760 --> 03:25:30,920 Speaker 1: got good film and I can jump on catch on 4102 03:25:31,040 --> 03:25:34,320 Speaker 1: somewhere else. This year, it's not the case. There is 4103 03:25:34,440 --> 03:25:37,320 Speaker 1: no preseason games. That was a beautiful thing about the preseason, 4104 03:25:37,440 --> 03:25:39,480 Speaker 1: especially if you were a bubble guy. You could say, 4105 03:25:39,560 --> 03:25:42,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I might not make this team, but 4106 03:25:42,240 --> 03:25:44,720 Speaker 1: I will make a team based off of what I 4107 03:25:44,879 --> 03:25:48,200 Speaker 1: do on this Thursday night, or on this Saturday night, 4108 03:25:48,640 --> 03:25:51,080 Speaker 1: or on this Sunday night. I'm gonna be able to 4109 03:25:51,240 --> 03:25:54,600 Speaker 1: make somebody's team based off of my performance. And guys 4110 03:25:54,680 --> 03:25:57,560 Speaker 1: don't have that this year. You're literally just at the 4111 03:25:57,800 --> 03:26:00,760 Speaker 1: at the whim of maybe something that people knew about 4112 03:26:00,800 --> 03:26:03,560 Speaker 1: you in the past. Maybe what's something you did in college, 4113 03:26:03,840 --> 03:26:07,720 Speaker 1: maybe something you know a connection or your relationships that 4114 03:26:07,840 --> 03:26:10,160 Speaker 1: you have around the league. You're at the mercy of 4115 03:26:10,280 --> 03:26:12,560 Speaker 1: that because the film on you, especially if you're a 4116 03:26:12,560 --> 03:26:15,440 Speaker 1: bubble guy, most likely you didn't play that much the 4117 03:26:15,920 --> 03:26:19,320 Speaker 1: year previously. Anyway you weren't. Most likely you weren't a starter. 4118 03:26:19,480 --> 03:26:21,560 Speaker 1: So that part of it can be rough. I think 4119 03:26:21,640 --> 03:26:24,960 Speaker 1: for players that this year is just a whole nother 4120 03:26:25,360 --> 03:26:28,200 Speaker 1: wrench in it. It's like, now Sean didn't made a 4121 03:26:28,240 --> 03:26:30,800 Speaker 1: good point. Your roster is pretty much set, the top 4122 03:26:30,959 --> 03:26:34,280 Speaker 1: forty or maybe that was Mark or John. I think 4123 03:26:34,320 --> 03:26:37,640 Speaker 1: all of them do point like it's the top the 4124 03:26:37,720 --> 03:26:40,520 Speaker 1: top forty guys, which is unusual in the normal you're 4125 03:26:40,560 --> 03:26:43,640 Speaker 1: the top forty, maybe forty three guys are set. So 4126 03:26:43,879 --> 03:26:47,000 Speaker 1: the obvious twelve or I mean the last twelve or 4127 03:26:47,080 --> 03:26:49,280 Speaker 1: thirteen guys they're fighting for the spot. But it's not 4128 03:26:49,320 --> 03:26:51,720 Speaker 1: going to be a big surprise because half the rosters 4129 03:26:51,720 --> 03:26:53,760 Speaker 1: already cut down normally. So you went from ninety guys, 4130 03:26:53,800 --> 03:26:56,480 Speaker 1: it's already at eighty or seventy issue, right, so now 4131 03:26:56,959 --> 03:27:00,680 Speaker 1: the last twelve guy or twenty whirings you gotta cut. 4132 03:27:01,000 --> 03:27:03,600 Speaker 1: It's not going to be too big. Seventeen guys too 4133 03:27:03,680 --> 03:27:05,360 Speaker 1: big of a deal, not something. The guys you cut, 4134 03:27:05,440 --> 03:27:07,760 Speaker 1: guess what, they're gonna stay technically on the roster, on 4135 03:27:07,840 --> 03:27:10,200 Speaker 1: the team because they're gonna be going on practice squad. Yeah, 4136 03:27:10,440 --> 03:27:12,920 Speaker 1: so maybe it might be a better thing. This might 4137 03:27:13,200 --> 03:27:16,600 Speaker 1: up your chances, up your odds of making the organization 4138 03:27:16,680 --> 03:27:18,280 Speaker 1: that you have if you have a good camp, so 4139 03:27:18,400 --> 03:27:19,960 Speaker 1: maybe that's a good thing. They see you every day, 4140 03:27:19,959 --> 03:27:21,320 Speaker 1: they know your working ethic. That you might not make 4141 03:27:21,360 --> 03:27:23,400 Speaker 1: the fifty three, but hey, we like you enough to 4142 03:27:23,440 --> 03:27:24,800 Speaker 1: keep you on our practice squad, or we like you 4143 03:27:24,879 --> 03:27:26,480 Speaker 1: enough to keep you on that on maybe you can 4144 03:27:26,520 --> 03:27:28,240 Speaker 1: be on the fifty seven, which is one of the 4145 03:27:28,280 --> 03:27:31,280 Speaker 1: four guys protected. Yeah, I'll tell you what, man, this season, 4146 03:27:31,879 --> 03:27:34,320 Speaker 1: the silver lining of it more than any other, is 4147 03:27:34,400 --> 03:27:37,040 Speaker 1: that if you do the right things each and every day, 4148 03:27:37,160 --> 03:27:39,600 Speaker 1: if you are a guy that makes good decisions, you're 4149 03:27:39,640 --> 03:27:42,920 Speaker 1: working hard every day, you're working to improve, you might 4150 03:27:43,000 --> 03:27:47,320 Speaker 1: not have the performance success that you might have won it. 4151 03:27:47,480 --> 03:27:50,320 Speaker 1: But because you do things the right way, especially in 4152 03:27:50,400 --> 03:27:53,760 Speaker 1: this organization, they will they will put that on your 4153 03:27:53,879 --> 03:27:56,880 Speaker 1: leisure is a huge positive somebody that they can trust 4154 03:27:56,959 --> 03:27:58,960 Speaker 1: to do things the right way. So you could be 4155 03:27:59,040 --> 03:28:01,880 Speaker 1: on this practice squad or we will put that will 4156 03:28:01,959 --> 03:28:04,959 Speaker 1: make your protected veteran on this roster and will keep 4157 03:28:05,000 --> 03:28:07,520 Speaker 1: you from having to be in the win because this year, 4158 03:28:07,680 --> 03:28:10,800 Speaker 1: more than any if you get released and you don't 4159 03:28:10,840 --> 03:28:13,120 Speaker 1: stay with the team that you're that you've been with 4160 03:28:13,320 --> 03:28:17,560 Speaker 1: these past few months, going to another roster, everything that entails, 4161 03:28:17,600 --> 03:28:19,400 Speaker 1: and I mentioned it earlier when I was talking to 4162 03:28:19,480 --> 03:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Mark Vendomere. I think this would be the least amount 4163 03:28:21,840 --> 03:28:24,680 Speaker 1: of moves from team to team when you're talking about 4164 03:28:24,720 --> 03:28:27,119 Speaker 1: players and a lot of veteran guys, four year, five 4165 03:28:27,240 --> 03:28:30,520 Speaker 1: year type guys. If you're telling me that you get 4166 03:28:30,600 --> 03:28:32,840 Speaker 1: released by the Texans and they don't want you back 4167 03:28:32,879 --> 03:28:34,720 Speaker 1: and you're not on the practice squad, now you have 4168 03:28:34,800 --> 03:28:36,960 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get to another roster, 4169 03:28:37,520 --> 03:28:40,200 Speaker 1: and they have the whole set of circumstances that they 4170 03:28:40,280 --> 03:28:42,080 Speaker 1: have to the hoops they have to jump through to 4171 03:28:42,120 --> 03:28:44,000 Speaker 1: get you there. They got to test you, you have 4172 03:28:44,120 --> 03:28:46,040 Speaker 1: to wait a certain amount of days to quarantine. A 4173 03:28:46,120 --> 03:28:49,720 Speaker 1: lot of times guys jump rosters because of injuries, and 4174 03:28:50,320 --> 03:28:53,840 Speaker 1: you know you can't get assimilated to that new roster 4175 03:28:54,160 --> 03:28:56,600 Speaker 1: in the timely fashion that you would normally get in 4176 03:28:56,680 --> 03:28:58,880 Speaker 1: a normal year. This year makes it a lot more 4177 03:28:58,959 --> 03:29:02,680 Speaker 1: difficult for that. So to me, it makes you nervous 4178 03:29:02,720 --> 03:29:05,200 Speaker 1: if you get released. You get nervous when you put 4179 03:29:05,280 --> 03:29:07,920 Speaker 1: all that getting on a commercial flight going to another place, 4180 03:29:07,959 --> 03:29:10,000 Speaker 1: and then there's a lot to it when you add 4181 03:29:10,000 --> 03:29:12,680 Speaker 1: the coronavirus to it. It's when you make when you 4182 03:29:12,800 --> 03:29:15,800 Speaker 1: make that point, it's a scary feeling for those guys 4183 03:29:15,840 --> 03:29:18,280 Speaker 1: that's getting cut, especially like you mentioned the five, six, seven, 4184 03:29:18,400 --> 03:29:22,120 Speaker 1: eight year events at a at a certain point, it's like, 4185 03:29:22,360 --> 03:29:24,960 Speaker 1: all right, say, seat don't need somebody, but they don't 4186 03:29:24,959 --> 03:29:27,400 Speaker 1: want to go through the hassle. Yeah, of bringing a 4187 03:29:27,440 --> 03:29:30,880 Speaker 1: guy in and getting tested and having to fly commercial 4188 03:29:31,240 --> 03:29:33,000 Speaker 1: and dealing with everything. Like, it's just so much that 4189 03:29:33,080 --> 03:29:36,080 Speaker 1: goes into it. The Yeah, I feel like the tide's 4190 03:29:36,080 --> 03:29:39,760 Speaker 1: gonna go in house. They're two guys are you know, 4191 03:29:39,879 --> 03:29:42,360 Speaker 1: We're just stay in house and keep this guy here. 4192 03:29:42,920 --> 03:29:45,000 Speaker 1: We're just trying to get through this week or two. Anyway, 4193 03:29:45,040 --> 03:29:47,920 Speaker 1: we'll get this guy back from injury. And that's opportunities 4194 03:29:47,959 --> 03:29:51,360 Speaker 1: that go to the wayside for veteran guy. Now. See, 4195 03:29:51,400 --> 03:29:53,200 Speaker 1: So there's a couple of guys that I'm looking at 4196 03:29:53,240 --> 03:29:57,119 Speaker 1: that I think might potentially fit into some of these categories. 4197 03:29:57,800 --> 03:30:00,760 Speaker 1: M One guy that was mentioned by John Pendergas was 4198 03:30:00,840 --> 03:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves. Running. Hargraves is a guy that's kind of 4199 03:30:03,160 --> 03:30:05,640 Speaker 1: struggled a little bit in training camp this year. Um 4200 03:30:06,000 --> 03:30:09,640 Speaker 1: see guys making plays offensively that you're like, yeah, good job, 4201 03:30:09,720 --> 03:30:12,320 Speaker 1: this guy made plays, But then it seems like too many, 4202 03:30:12,400 --> 03:30:15,160 Speaker 1: too often, I'm hearing Vernon Hargraves is a guy that 4203 03:30:16,440 --> 03:30:19,039 Speaker 1: the play is being made on. If you're Vernon Hargraves 4204 03:30:19,120 --> 03:30:24,039 Speaker 1: right now, or Keiki QT or highly wearing uh you know, Higden, buddy, 4205 03:30:24,120 --> 03:30:28,880 Speaker 1: how these guys that potentially can be on the block, 4206 03:30:28,959 --> 03:30:31,160 Speaker 1: How are you feeling right now if you're those guys? 4207 03:30:31,200 --> 03:30:33,320 Speaker 1: And how do you think those guys end up shaking 4208 03:30:33,400 --> 03:30:36,879 Speaker 1: out well? Hargraves, he was a former first round pick. 4209 03:30:36,920 --> 03:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Actually played with him in Tampa Bay in twenty sixteen, 4210 03:30:40,760 --> 03:30:44,480 Speaker 1: and he has knowledge of the game. I'm gonna be 4211 03:30:44,520 --> 03:30:46,560 Speaker 1: honest with me. A coaches kid, right, he's a coaches 4212 03:30:46,640 --> 03:30:48,920 Speaker 1: kids DV. His dad was a dB coach at Florida, 4213 03:30:49,000 --> 03:30:51,240 Speaker 1: or just or is a dB coach at Florida. Yeah. 4214 03:30:52,520 --> 03:30:54,720 Speaker 1: But when you get a when you on the team, 4215 03:30:54,840 --> 03:30:58,760 Speaker 1: they draft a guy in your particular position, and all 4216 03:30:58,800 --> 03:31:02,600 Speaker 1: you hear about it is John ry I don't see. 4217 03:31:02,640 --> 03:31:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he makes the roster um. I think 4218 03:31:04,800 --> 03:31:06,920 Speaker 1: he is a he's a decent veteran. He can be 4219 03:31:07,000 --> 03:31:09,800 Speaker 1: a guy that hops on somewhere eventually. I think John 4220 03:31:09,879 --> 03:31:12,560 Speaker 1: Reid that's his spot. I don't I don't see Vernon 4221 03:31:12,720 --> 03:31:15,000 Speaker 1: making it awesome guy. I just don't see him making 4222 03:31:15,040 --> 03:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the squad this year. Wearing, I do see him making 4223 03:31:17,480 --> 03:31:19,480 Speaker 1: the squad. I think they see the potential in him. Yeah. 4224 03:31:19,480 --> 03:31:21,680 Speaker 1: I think John McLean hopped on on on with us 4225 03:31:21,720 --> 03:31:23,800 Speaker 1: today talking about Zach Cunningham and his new deal, but 4226 03:31:23,840 --> 03:31:26,680 Speaker 1: he also mentioned how Wearing was making plays, jumping up, 4227 03:31:26,720 --> 03:31:28,720 Speaker 1: catching the ball, doing things like that. So I think 4228 03:31:28,800 --> 03:31:31,440 Speaker 1: he makes the squad. Now. Is he gonna make an 4229 03:31:31,440 --> 03:31:34,359 Speaker 1: impact early on because the way the Thomas the Jordan's 4230 03:31:34,400 --> 03:31:36,760 Speaker 1: brothers are looking, I'm not sure, And of course you 4231 03:31:36,840 --> 03:31:38,480 Speaker 1: got Darren as well, but I think Wearing is a 4232 03:31:38,520 --> 03:31:41,880 Speaker 1: guy that they'll probably keep or tight end spots. I 4233 03:31:41,959 --> 03:31:45,039 Speaker 1: think the thing with Kylie Wearing is he might rind 4234 03:31:45,160 --> 03:31:47,160 Speaker 1: up in a situation where the Texans play a little 4235 03:31:47,480 --> 03:31:50,520 Speaker 1: little roulette with him that they spend the wheel, release 4236 03:31:50,640 --> 03:31:53,320 Speaker 1: him and hope that they can keep him, get him 4237 03:31:53,360 --> 03:31:55,760 Speaker 1: through waivers, and then hold on to him. That way, 4238 03:31:56,040 --> 03:32:00,400 Speaker 1: it's potentially be a veteran protected guy because you look 4239 03:32:00,440 --> 03:32:02,640 Speaker 1: at the roster, you look at the amount of receivers 4240 03:32:02,680 --> 03:32:06,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna need on this roster, how they're gonna playing 4241 03:32:06,400 --> 03:32:09,400 Speaker 1: on attack in the Kansas City Chiefs. The fourth tight 4242 03:32:09,480 --> 03:32:12,039 Speaker 1: end is not going to be active that game. He's 4243 03:32:12,080 --> 03:32:13,960 Speaker 1: not a guy that plays on special teams. You know 4244 03:32:14,080 --> 03:32:16,960 Speaker 1: how important Bill O'Brien, and with the emphasis that they 4245 03:32:17,000 --> 03:32:19,320 Speaker 1: pushed on special teams guys, and so if you're just 4246 03:32:19,440 --> 03:32:22,280 Speaker 1: a guy that has a lot of potential, a high ceiling, 4247 03:32:22,680 --> 03:32:26,560 Speaker 1: but you really can't do much for us today, that 4248 03:32:26,760 --> 03:32:29,520 Speaker 1: strikes me as a guy that's a candidate to they 4249 03:32:29,640 --> 03:32:32,760 Speaker 1: try to sneak them through and and pray that nobody's 4250 03:32:32,800 --> 03:32:35,040 Speaker 1: really paying attention to him or seeing thinking about his 4251 03:32:35,160 --> 03:32:38,040 Speaker 1: film from back in San Diego State, and that can 4252 03:32:38,200 --> 03:32:41,360 Speaker 1: keep him in the family per se. But as a 4253 03:32:41,440 --> 03:32:43,880 Speaker 1: third round pick, third round pick, I mean, hold on, 4254 03:32:43,959 --> 03:32:45,640 Speaker 1: now that you know the Texans, now they let a 4255 03:32:45,680 --> 03:32:48,560 Speaker 1: third round pick go. They don't play the games when 4256 03:32:48,560 --> 03:32:50,560 Speaker 1: they come to third round picks. I think about Knicks 4257 03:32:50,600 --> 03:32:53,280 Speaker 1: from North to Dame and they traded away Martinez ranked 4258 03:32:53,360 --> 03:32:56,120 Speaker 1: third round picks. There's no h and this is two 4259 03:32:56,240 --> 03:32:58,320 Speaker 1: this is the second year. It's not even his rookie years. 4260 03:32:58,360 --> 03:33:01,680 Speaker 1: So he might be a guy that could potentially but 4261 03:33:01,840 --> 03:33:04,160 Speaker 1: I think they like them. I just don't know if 4262 03:33:04,440 --> 03:33:06,680 Speaker 1: if it runs to another number game and they'll figure out, 4263 03:33:06,680 --> 03:33:09,760 Speaker 1: you know what we can We'll just we'll bring them 4264 03:33:09,840 --> 03:33:12,760 Speaker 1: right back. It's playing Roulette's gam a little bit. I'm 4265 03:33:12,760 --> 03:33:15,040 Speaker 1: sure some temp pinner gas would would love to have 4266 03:33:15,160 --> 03:33:18,480 Speaker 1: the odds on that one. But I just think that 4267 03:33:18,600 --> 03:33:20,680 Speaker 1: that's something that I could see out of Houston, Texas 4268 03:33:20,800 --> 03:33:26,560 Speaker 1: now eleven days away, only eleven days away from the 4269 03:33:26,640 --> 03:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Texans playing the Kentnas City Chiefs. We went through the 4270 03:33:30,120 --> 03:33:33,760 Speaker 1: season predictions a little bit with Mark vander Mere earlier, 4271 03:33:33,840 --> 03:33:35,920 Speaker 1: but we didn't really get in depth game by game 4272 03:33:36,000 --> 03:33:37,920 Speaker 1: how we think the wins and losses are gonna go. 4273 03:33:38,360 --> 03:33:45,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna do that next. This is Whitney Merciless and 4274 03:33:46,040 --> 03:33:54,400 Speaker 1: you're listening to Texans Radio. Don't touch that DOGC two 4275 03:33:54,560 --> 03:33:57,160 Speaker 1: it's better than one. How many times have you heard that? One? 4276 03:33:57,480 --> 03:34:00,480 Speaker 1: More than one? Bad? Because it just adds up. 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My goodness, 4357 03:39:01,120 --> 03:39:05,800 Speaker 1: it's the Texans training Camps Special presented by Xfinity, and 4358 03:39:06,400 --> 03:39:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm Wade Smith. That's a season shorts. This is the 4359 03:39:09,720 --> 03:39:14,000 Speaker 1: last segment of the evening and we're gonna go through 4360 03:39:14,680 --> 03:39:19,080 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty schedule of the Houston Texans because we're 4361 03:39:19,120 --> 03:39:21,880 Speaker 1: eleven days away of Texans playing against the Kanna City Chiefs, 4362 03:39:21,959 --> 03:39:24,160 Speaker 1: and I want to go through this schedule and see 4363 03:39:24,240 --> 03:39:26,720 Speaker 1: kind of where we think the Texans are going to 4364 03:39:27,200 --> 03:39:30,240 Speaker 1: shape up and how they're going to finish the year. 4365 03:39:30,320 --> 03:39:32,320 Speaker 1: And they start off with the Chiefs on the road. 4366 03:39:33,520 --> 03:39:39,240 Speaker 1: Texans are market underdogs in this ball game. I don't 4367 03:39:39,240 --> 03:39:40,600 Speaker 1: have the line in front of me, but you know, 4368 03:39:40,720 --> 03:39:42,760 Speaker 1: good and well, the Kanna City Chiefs are probably, I 4369 03:39:42,800 --> 03:39:46,680 Speaker 1: would guess somewhere around a touchdown favorite to win this game. 4370 03:39:48,360 --> 03:39:51,080 Speaker 1: If there is a way for the Texans to win 4371 03:39:51,200 --> 03:39:53,240 Speaker 1: this game seas, So, how do they do it? And 4372 03:39:53,360 --> 03:39:57,080 Speaker 1: then how do you think it actually will shape up? Well? 4373 03:39:57,080 --> 03:40:00,160 Speaker 1: I think they do it by first off, lemiting their 4374 03:40:00,160 --> 03:40:03,640 Speaker 1: own penalties and mistakes. I think early on throughout the 4375 03:40:03,760 --> 03:40:06,480 Speaker 1: whole NFL, you're going to see a lot of penalties 4376 03:40:06,600 --> 03:40:10,440 Speaker 1: and mental errors just because you have not had that 4377 03:40:10,560 --> 03:40:14,280 Speaker 1: game experience and live action is totally different. Than practice action. 4378 03:40:14,920 --> 03:40:17,040 Speaker 1: Even though you're having these scrimmages all across the board, 4379 03:40:17,040 --> 03:40:19,039 Speaker 1: it's totally different because you line up against somebody different. 4380 03:40:19,560 --> 03:40:22,560 Speaker 1: That anxiousness, that nervousness, that excitement comes up in the 4381 03:40:22,680 --> 03:40:25,000 Speaker 1: game and boom, you may jump outsides or whatever the 4382 03:40:25,040 --> 03:40:26,360 Speaker 1: case may be. So I do I think if you 4383 03:40:26,800 --> 03:40:29,280 Speaker 1: can limit that and limit the big plays from my homes, 4384 03:40:29,879 --> 03:40:32,119 Speaker 1: you got a chance to win. Now, to answer your question, 4385 03:40:32,200 --> 03:40:34,720 Speaker 1: I do think they win in my opinion. I think 4386 03:40:34,760 --> 03:40:41,760 Speaker 1: they come out strong that there against the Canci said, 4387 03:40:41,760 --> 03:40:43,280 Speaker 1: O Casey, he's not gonna hear what you gotta say. 4388 03:40:43,600 --> 03:40:46,879 Speaker 1: I think they're um. Just the offseason has to having 4389 03:40:47,000 --> 03:40:49,160 Speaker 1: to think about and deal with what happened in that 4390 03:40:49,320 --> 03:40:51,960 Speaker 1: last game. It all comes out the play. I think 4391 03:40:52,040 --> 03:40:53,560 Speaker 1: the Sean is going this is going to be one 4392 03:40:53,560 --> 03:40:56,080 Speaker 1: of the Shan's Bessy years. Personally, I think he's going 4393 03:40:56,160 --> 03:40:58,920 Speaker 1: to be outstanding. You have the five offensive linement that 4394 03:40:59,000 --> 03:41:01,720 Speaker 1: are all coming back, and that gives me confidence that 4395 03:41:02,040 --> 03:41:04,440 Speaker 1: not only will he be he will be protected, but 4396 03:41:04,560 --> 03:41:07,000 Speaker 1: he will have time and he won't get hit as 4397 03:41:07,120 --> 03:41:08,680 Speaker 1: much as he can make plays down the field, throw 4398 03:41:08,720 --> 03:41:12,119 Speaker 1: into whoever he wants to. So I think they'll limit 4399 03:41:12,200 --> 03:41:14,000 Speaker 1: the big plays and they'll come up big with that 4400 03:41:14,280 --> 03:41:16,520 Speaker 1: w in the first opening night. Yeah, I tell you what, man, 4401 03:41:17,000 --> 03:41:20,520 Speaker 1: the way, in my opinion, the way that the Chiefs 4402 03:41:21,360 --> 03:41:23,360 Speaker 1: they go to excuse me, the Texans go to Kansas 4403 03:41:23,400 --> 03:41:26,960 Speaker 1: City and beat the Chiefs. It's by doing what we discussed. 4404 03:41:26,959 --> 03:41:29,119 Speaker 1: I believe it was last week. The whole thirty five 4405 03:41:29,280 --> 03:41:32,480 Speaker 1: touches in the game between Duke and David Johnson. Those 4406 03:41:32,520 --> 03:41:35,200 Speaker 1: two guys touch the ball thirty five times. That's how 4407 03:41:35,240 --> 03:41:37,840 Speaker 1: they'll win. The Texans don't need to try to get 4408 03:41:37,879 --> 03:41:40,280 Speaker 1: in a shootout with the Kansa City Chiefs. That is 4409 03:41:40,400 --> 03:41:42,560 Speaker 1: not what you want to do. You do not want 4410 03:41:42,640 --> 03:41:45,640 Speaker 1: to try to have Deshauna Watson put the team on 4411 03:41:45,720 --> 03:41:47,480 Speaker 1: his back and try to throw the ball all over 4412 03:41:47,480 --> 03:41:48,760 Speaker 1: the yard. You're trying to figure out a way to 4413 03:41:48,800 --> 03:41:50,880 Speaker 1: get a win on the road. You gotta run the football, 4414 03:41:50,959 --> 03:41:53,160 Speaker 1: you gotta control the clock. If you remember how the 4415 03:41:53,240 --> 03:41:55,600 Speaker 1: Texans beat the Kansas City Chiefs in Week six, that's 4416 03:41:55,640 --> 03:41:57,720 Speaker 1: what they did. Carlos Hide was running through the dudes 4417 03:41:58,000 --> 03:42:01,119 Speaker 1: talking now its to the camera after scoring touchdowns. These 4418 03:42:01,360 --> 03:42:06,280 Speaker 1: can't us remember that? I remember that. You got it 4419 03:42:06,360 --> 03:42:08,720 Speaker 1: self edit, But you knew what he said, and you 4420 03:42:08,840 --> 03:42:10,879 Speaker 1: knew the sentiments. That was what it was gonna take 4421 03:42:11,080 --> 03:42:12,920 Speaker 1: to beat the Kann City Chiefs on the road. I 4422 03:42:13,000 --> 03:42:14,879 Speaker 1: think that's the way that they get it done. Keep 4423 03:42:15,000 --> 03:42:16,959 Speaker 1: Homes off the field. Keep them off the field. That's 4424 03:42:17,040 --> 03:42:18,920 Speaker 1: that's the way you beat him. Not not oh, we 4425 03:42:19,040 --> 03:42:20,920 Speaker 1: just gonna line up and stop Pat Mahomes. I just 4426 03:42:21,000 --> 03:42:23,800 Speaker 1: don't think that's a real realistic proposition. What you got 4427 03:42:23,920 --> 03:42:26,200 Speaker 1: to do is keep him off the field. Unfortunately, this 4428 03:42:26,440 --> 03:42:28,880 Speaker 1: is this is not a game that I think the 4429 03:42:28,920 --> 03:42:31,800 Speaker 1: Texans are gonna win. Just being objective at it, I 4430 03:42:31,879 --> 03:42:34,360 Speaker 1: feel like they'll start off with a loss there and 4431 03:42:34,440 --> 03:42:36,960 Speaker 1: so they'll being on one. But Cecil, you got him 4432 03:42:36,959 --> 03:42:39,320 Speaker 1: as one to know. The next week, the Texans come 4433 03:42:39,400 --> 03:42:42,680 Speaker 1: home and play against the Baltimore Ravens. You got Lamar 4434 03:42:42,840 --> 03:42:46,880 Speaker 1: Jackson coming into town. You got JK. Dobbins, the new 4435 03:42:46,959 --> 03:42:50,320 Speaker 1: rookie coming in town. You got all those defensive players 4436 03:42:50,360 --> 03:42:52,720 Speaker 1: that they've added to the roster of guys that they've retained, 4437 03:42:52,800 --> 03:42:55,840 Speaker 1: got Kalais Campbell coming into town. That's going to be 4438 03:42:56,000 --> 03:42:58,680 Speaker 1: a tough matchup for the Texans. A week two. How 4439 03:42:58,720 --> 03:43:00,800 Speaker 1: do you see that shaking out? I see them losing 4440 03:43:00,879 --> 03:43:04,120 Speaker 1: that one. I think the high from game one may 4441 03:43:04,240 --> 03:43:06,040 Speaker 1: get them a little bit from Game two. And I 4442 03:43:06,120 --> 03:43:09,520 Speaker 1: think these first two games are so important, even that 4443 03:43:09,600 --> 03:43:11,879 Speaker 1: they win or even that they lose the first one, right, 4444 03:43:11,959 --> 03:43:13,800 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, they got to come back and play 4445 03:43:13,840 --> 03:43:16,080 Speaker 1: strong in this game because these top four. We talked 4446 03:43:16,120 --> 03:43:20,480 Speaker 1: about with Marks that it's a gauntlet like these top 4447 03:43:20,560 --> 03:43:22,920 Speaker 1: four are basically kind of they're all super Bowl contenders. 4448 03:43:22,959 --> 03:43:24,640 Speaker 1: They all can be in the in the mix for 4449 03:43:24,720 --> 03:43:28,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They all have very very good defenses. So 4450 03:43:29,040 --> 03:43:31,760 Speaker 1: I do think the Ravens take the take the victory 4451 03:43:31,840 --> 03:43:34,320 Speaker 1: on this one, the first home game which will have 4452 03:43:34,480 --> 03:43:38,000 Speaker 1: no fans here, um. But I think it's going to 4453 03:43:38,120 --> 03:43:40,560 Speaker 1: be a hard fought game. It's just when you have 4454 03:43:40,840 --> 03:43:43,920 Speaker 1: four games like this, if you go four, no, you 4455 03:43:44,040 --> 03:43:46,360 Speaker 1: might be you know, you're you're you're owing something here. 4456 03:43:46,760 --> 03:43:48,800 Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening. I think they're gonna 4457 03:43:48,840 --> 03:43:50,400 Speaker 1: take it all. It's gonna be a tough loss. This 4458 03:43:50,560 --> 03:43:53,240 Speaker 1: running game is going to be serious with mark Ingraham, 4459 03:43:53,560 --> 03:43:56,400 Speaker 1: with JK. Diamonds and Lamar Jackson, they are a dynamic 4460 03:43:56,560 --> 03:44:00,160 Speaker 1: Lamar m VP of course from last season, and I 4461 03:44:00,240 --> 03:44:02,959 Speaker 1: think he'll he'll continue that phase and go playing pretty well, 4462 03:44:03,440 --> 03:44:05,000 Speaker 1: but I think it'll be tough to come off that 4463 03:44:05,160 --> 03:44:07,120 Speaker 1: win with the Ravens come to town. Yeah, I look 4464 03:44:07,160 --> 03:44:09,560 Speaker 1: at the Ravens roster. I look at what they did 4465 03:44:09,640 --> 03:44:12,320 Speaker 1: to the Texans last later. It was forty one to 4466 03:44:12,440 --> 03:44:14,800 Speaker 1: seven last year. If I'm remembering correctly, the game got 4467 03:44:14,800 --> 03:44:17,280 Speaker 1: out of hand early. If they jump on you early, 4468 03:44:17,440 --> 03:44:19,840 Speaker 1: you know that that's exactly the way they want to play. 4469 03:44:19,879 --> 03:44:23,040 Speaker 1: That's the way they play a game. And I see 4470 03:44:23,040 --> 03:44:25,920 Speaker 1: a similar scenario, not a blowout, but I do see 4471 03:44:25,959 --> 03:44:27,880 Speaker 1: a scenario where the Ravens get up early on the 4472 03:44:27,959 --> 03:44:30,320 Speaker 1: Texans and force them to play the game that they 4473 03:44:30,400 --> 03:44:33,000 Speaker 1: don't want to play. And so I'm gonna have to 4474 03:44:33,480 --> 03:44:36,760 Speaker 1: have the Texans starting off owen two unfortunately, but they're 4475 03:44:36,800 --> 03:44:39,240 Speaker 1: gonna be owing two. But at the same time, I 4476 03:44:39,280 --> 03:44:41,720 Speaker 1: think they're gonna play well. So that's going to bold 4477 03:44:41,760 --> 03:44:44,840 Speaker 1: well for them going forward throughout the season. Week three, 4478 03:44:45,560 --> 03:44:49,400 Speaker 1: you're going to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is a team that's coming 4479 03:44:49,480 --> 03:44:52,000 Speaker 1: off of a season where they went eighty eight with 4480 03:44:52,160 --> 03:44:55,480 Speaker 1: guys named Duck and Buck and Chuck playing quarterback for them, 4481 03:44:55,520 --> 03:45:00,360 Speaker 1: but not so, how do you see that game. Checking 4482 03:45:00,400 --> 03:45:04,640 Speaker 1: out with the Steelers in the Texans, I got them winning, man, Um. 4483 03:45:04,800 --> 03:45:07,120 Speaker 1: I think they bounced back from the Laws versus Ravens, 4484 03:45:07,160 --> 03:45:10,360 Speaker 1: and I really have them playing well on the road. Um, 4485 03:45:10,720 --> 03:45:12,400 Speaker 1: I just realized I got them winning on the road 4486 03:45:12,440 --> 03:45:14,320 Speaker 1: in Kansas City and in the road in Pittsburgh, two 4487 03:45:14,440 --> 03:45:16,320 Speaker 1: very tough places to play. I'm pretty sure you're played 4488 03:45:16,320 --> 03:45:18,760 Speaker 1: in both of those places. Very fun places to play, 4489 03:45:19,280 --> 03:45:22,200 Speaker 1: but tough places to play. Nevertheless, So I do think 4490 03:45:22,240 --> 03:45:24,480 Speaker 1: they come up and they play well versus Pittsburgh. They 4491 03:45:24,520 --> 03:45:28,600 Speaker 1: do have a stout defense, but I think um O'Brien's 4492 03:45:28,640 --> 03:45:31,160 Speaker 1: gonna have these guys raid the role. And I'm to 4493 03:45:31,320 --> 03:45:34,200 Speaker 1: be honest, I'm not sold on a thirty eight year 4494 03:45:34,280 --> 03:45:37,800 Speaker 1: old coming off of surgery, big band that that. That's 4495 03:45:37,840 --> 03:45:39,840 Speaker 1: just not what I'm sold on right now. Yeah, I 4496 03:45:39,920 --> 03:45:42,280 Speaker 1: tell you what, people are gonna respect the Texans after 4497 03:45:42,400 --> 03:45:44,720 Speaker 1: this this this game because I feel like they're gonna 4498 03:45:44,760 --> 03:45:47,640 Speaker 1: go on the road and they're going to handily beat 4499 03:45:47,680 --> 03:45:50,480 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh They're gonna get right in this bargame. I 4500 03:45:50,600 --> 03:45:55,360 Speaker 1: just like the matchups of the receivers for the Houston 4501 03:45:55,400 --> 03:45:57,960 Speaker 1: Texans against the Pittsburgh Steelers. They do have some some 4502 03:45:58,200 --> 03:46:00,120 Speaker 1: some guys up front. You got guys like t J. 4503 03:46:00,240 --> 03:46:02,440 Speaker 1: White and Cam Hayward. Dick can get out of the quarterback. 4504 03:46:02,760 --> 03:46:05,360 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a huge matchup for Larry Tunsu in 4505 03:46:05,400 --> 03:46:08,680 Speaker 1: the interior. Three guys for the Texans. But I just 4506 03:46:08,800 --> 03:46:11,080 Speaker 1: see that. I'm not sold. Like you said, I'm not 4507 03:46:11,120 --> 03:46:13,959 Speaker 1: sold on Ben Roethlisberger at thirty eight. You know, Juju 4508 03:46:14,120 --> 03:46:15,800 Speaker 1: is a is a good receiver, but he took a 4509 03:46:15,879 --> 03:46:17,360 Speaker 1: huge step back, and a lot of it was because 4510 03:46:17,400 --> 03:46:19,680 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks. But he just he didn't look like 4511 03:46:19,840 --> 03:46:22,360 Speaker 1: the same guy out there. I think he's too busy 4512 03:46:22,400 --> 03:46:25,240 Speaker 1: on on social media with uh, I don't know what 4513 03:46:25,400 --> 03:46:28,119 Speaker 1: you call it, the tidy White. He's on doing dances 4514 03:46:28,160 --> 03:46:31,880 Speaker 1: and stuff, YouTube and commercials. I'm not sold on Juju 4515 03:46:32,000 --> 03:46:33,560 Speaker 1: like that. He got to show me better than he 4516 03:46:33,840 --> 03:46:36,959 Speaker 1: lost Antonio Brown. He lost Antonio Brown. So I think 4517 03:46:36,959 --> 03:46:38,560 Speaker 1: the Texans win that. So they're one and two in 4518 03:46:38,680 --> 03:46:40,840 Speaker 1: my book, you have them at two and one one 4519 03:46:41,560 --> 03:46:43,760 Speaker 1: if the final game of the first four you got 4520 03:46:43,840 --> 03:46:47,360 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings at home, how does that shake out? Now? Listen, 4521 03:46:47,560 --> 03:46:50,360 Speaker 1: So I chose the I'm picking them to win, But 4522 03:46:50,480 --> 03:46:57,120 Speaker 1: I chose this before Yannick came to play, before I 4523 03:46:57,240 --> 03:47:00,320 Speaker 1: made this thick, before they made that trade. No, I 4524 03:47:00,440 --> 03:47:02,920 Speaker 1: have them winning, So there'll be three and one coming 4525 03:47:03,120 --> 03:47:08,720 Speaker 1: out of the first four games. I think that coming 4526 03:47:08,760 --> 03:47:12,040 Speaker 1: off a big win against Pittsburgh, m you're coming back 4527 03:47:12,120 --> 03:47:16,040 Speaker 1: home and you're gonna play a good defense. But I 4528 03:47:16,240 --> 03:47:20,640 Speaker 1: think that Titus Howard Larry ma Tunster will be able 4529 03:47:20,680 --> 03:47:23,400 Speaker 1: to handle the edge when it comes to Yannick. And 4530 03:47:24,040 --> 03:47:27,560 Speaker 1: is it Danielle or I mean daniel Danielle Hunter, which 4531 03:47:27,560 --> 03:47:29,920 Speaker 1: are two awesome guys. Now they got two good backers too, 4532 03:47:29,959 --> 03:47:32,520 Speaker 1: when Anthony Barr. They got a great safety group and 4533 03:47:32,600 --> 03:47:35,480 Speaker 1: Harry Smith or Smith and Harris back there, Smith and Harrison, 4534 03:47:35,520 --> 03:47:39,040 Speaker 1: excuse me back there. So they are deep and they 4535 03:47:39,120 --> 03:47:42,800 Speaker 1: are pretty good um at all levels. I just like 4536 03:47:43,840 --> 03:47:47,320 Speaker 1: the Texans in this matchup. See I'm on the opposite him. 4537 03:47:47,440 --> 03:47:49,120 Speaker 1: I think the Texans lose this game. And this is 4538 03:47:49,160 --> 03:47:51,360 Speaker 1: why I think they're losing this game. You got Gary 4539 03:47:51,440 --> 03:47:54,400 Speaker 1: Kubiak in that offense coming down here, Dalvin Cook at 4540 03:47:54,440 --> 03:47:56,400 Speaker 1: the running back spot the same way. I feel like 4541 03:47:56,480 --> 03:47:58,280 Speaker 1: the Texans. The only chance for them to go to 4542 03:47:58,400 --> 03:48:00,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City and get that w is for them to 4543 03:48:00,840 --> 03:48:04,600 Speaker 1: control the clock, run the football. This game against the Vikings, 4544 03:48:04,680 --> 03:48:06,360 Speaker 1: this is where you're gonna be like, man, I miss 4545 03:48:06,440 --> 03:48:08,360 Speaker 1: DJ reader. That's gonna be the game where you said 4546 03:48:08,360 --> 03:48:10,840 Speaker 1: to yourself, man if DJ was here, they wouldn't be 4547 03:48:10,840 --> 03:48:12,520 Speaker 1: able to control the clock like this and run the 4548 03:48:12,560 --> 03:48:15,760 Speaker 1: ball on us like this. So to me, the first 4549 03:48:15,840 --> 03:48:18,360 Speaker 1: four games is gonna start slow for the Texas. They're 4550 03:48:18,360 --> 03:48:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna be one in three, but soon the tide touch 4551 03:48:22,959 --> 03:48:25,120 Speaker 1: starts to turn. What do you hope next week? Right now, 4552 03:48:26,480 --> 03:48:28,600 Speaker 1: it's one and three. Right now, people go, hey, you 4553 03:48:28,920 --> 03:48:31,040 Speaker 1: can imagine what it's gonna be like around here, and 4554 03:48:31,160 --> 03:48:33,280 Speaker 1: talking on the radio, people are gonna be like all 4555 03:48:33,320 --> 03:48:35,720 Speaker 1: the Texas of this to that. But stay tuned. It's 4556 03:48:35,720 --> 03:48:38,680 Speaker 1: a whole sixteen game season. So next up, you got 4557 03:48:38,760 --> 03:48:41,680 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars at home. You need to really need 4558 03:48:41,720 --> 03:48:43,680 Speaker 1: to talk to talk about. Yeah, that's a dough So 4559 03:48:43,760 --> 03:48:45,520 Speaker 1: now you're now you're two and three. In my book, 4560 03:48:45,560 --> 03:48:48,040 Speaker 1: you got him at four and one. Right now, I 4561 03:48:48,080 --> 03:48:50,120 Speaker 1: got him at two and three. Now they go on 4562 03:48:50,200 --> 03:48:53,040 Speaker 1: the road the next week and play against the Tennessee Titans. 4563 03:48:53,200 --> 03:48:57,440 Speaker 1: Listen division game, always play you tough. Mike variabro is 4564 03:48:57,760 --> 03:48:59,840 Speaker 1: one head of a coach. He gets his guys up 4565 03:48:59,840 --> 03:49:02,320 Speaker 1: to go. I said, they take at ale in Tennessee. 4566 03:49:02,400 --> 03:49:05,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to stop there, Henry, It's gonna 4567 03:49:05,160 --> 03:49:08,040 Speaker 1: be hard to stop a J. Brown. I think we 4568 03:49:08,160 --> 03:49:11,440 Speaker 1: struggle this game and they give the W and them 4569 03:49:11,520 --> 03:49:14,040 Speaker 1: being Tennessee Titans. See, I think this is the game 4570 03:49:14,200 --> 03:49:17,560 Speaker 1: where the Texans are starting. They're gonna start to kind 4571 03:49:17,600 --> 03:49:20,120 Speaker 1: of feel themselves a little bit, and they're gonna flex 4572 03:49:20,160 --> 03:49:22,880 Speaker 1: their muscles against the Tennessee Titans on the road. It's 4573 03:49:22,920 --> 03:49:25,360 Speaker 1: a rivalry game. We don't really like them. They don't 4574 03:49:25,400 --> 03:49:28,160 Speaker 1: really like us. That's just how we look at them. 4575 03:49:28,200 --> 03:49:30,840 Speaker 1: And when I say we, I say that because anytime 4576 03:49:30,880 --> 03:49:33,280 Speaker 1: it comes to the Tennessee Titans, I go back into 4577 03:49:33,400 --> 03:49:35,920 Speaker 1: my mentality of when we played against them, and I 4578 03:49:36,000 --> 03:49:39,400 Speaker 1: still don't like them to this and so I see 4579 03:49:39,440 --> 03:49:41,520 Speaker 1: the Texans coming out there and getting the W right there. 4580 03:49:41,560 --> 03:49:43,560 Speaker 1: So now I got them at three and three, they're 4581 03:49:43,600 --> 03:49:45,520 Speaker 1: back at five hundred. You start off one and three, 4582 03:49:45,880 --> 03:49:48,880 Speaker 1: you got right against the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Tennessee Titans. 4583 03:49:49,320 --> 03:49:51,200 Speaker 1: Next up, you got a big one at home. You 4584 03:49:51,320 --> 03:49:53,520 Speaker 1: got the Green Bay Packers. If there's fans allowed to 4585 03:49:53,560 --> 03:49:56,200 Speaker 1: be in the stands. By that point, there will be 4586 03:49:56,280 --> 03:49:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot of change heads in the building. Texans haven't 4587 03:49:58,840 --> 03:50:02,440 Speaker 1: beat the Green Bay pack well at home yet, how 4588 03:50:02,440 --> 03:50:05,200 Speaker 1: do you think that shakes out Aaron Rodgers. He'll take 4589 03:50:05,240 --> 03:50:07,680 Speaker 1: over the game. I'm just here is somebody that's going 4590 03:50:07,800 --> 03:50:10,680 Speaker 1: to exploit what do we think is a better secondary 4591 03:50:11,960 --> 03:50:13,680 Speaker 1: even with the weapons that he does have, And I 4592 03:50:13,800 --> 03:50:16,640 Speaker 1: just don't see. I think Aaron Jones will give Zach 4593 03:50:16,680 --> 03:50:19,200 Speaker 1: Cutting handsome problems coming out of that backfield. So for me, 4594 03:50:19,320 --> 03:50:21,640 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers and the Packers figure out a 4595 03:50:21,640 --> 03:50:23,320 Speaker 1: way to win that game. So for me, I guess 4596 03:50:23,360 --> 03:50:26,360 Speaker 1: you or one, two, three, four, four and three right now? 4597 03:50:26,520 --> 03:50:28,960 Speaker 1: Four and three to the tight Texans. So you're four 4598 03:50:29,000 --> 03:50:31,760 Speaker 1: and three and I'm gonna say they're four and three 4599 03:50:31,800 --> 03:50:34,360 Speaker 1: as well, because I think that the Texans beat the Packers. 4600 03:50:34,440 --> 03:50:37,560 Speaker 1: I just don't see Aaron Rodgers. He has one target. 4601 03:50:37,800 --> 03:50:39,680 Speaker 1: You just give me a team a one target against 4602 03:50:39,680 --> 03:50:42,040 Speaker 1: the Texans. You got Bradley Roby. I think I like 4603 03:50:42,200 --> 03:50:45,680 Speaker 1: that matchup between him and Adams. I know the Packers 4604 03:50:45,720 --> 03:50:47,680 Speaker 1: are going to try to do the same type of 4605 03:50:47,800 --> 03:50:50,120 Speaker 1: thing that the Vikings did but they don't have the 4606 03:50:50,240 --> 03:50:52,400 Speaker 1: horses that the Vikings do. They don't have the running back, 4607 03:50:52,720 --> 03:50:55,640 Speaker 1: or the or the offensive line that the Vikings. I 4608 03:50:55,720 --> 03:50:57,800 Speaker 1: think the Vikings line is better than the Packers. So 4609 03:50:58,000 --> 03:51:00,800 Speaker 1: give me the Texans beating the Green Bay Packers. So 4610 03:51:00,880 --> 03:51:03,160 Speaker 1: they're four and three going into the bye you come 4611 03:51:03,200 --> 03:51:05,520 Speaker 1: out of the buy you got the Jaguars on the road? 4612 03:51:05,560 --> 03:51:08,280 Speaker 1: Are we're gonna talk about the Jaguar. I'm sorry, I 4613 03:51:08,320 --> 03:51:11,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't say it like that, but for the radio sense, 4614 03:51:11,520 --> 03:51:15,040 Speaker 1: we're coming up against So you got I got a 4615 03:51:15,120 --> 03:51:17,040 Speaker 1: dub on that too. That's five and three. Both both 4616 03:51:17,040 --> 03:51:19,120 Speaker 1: of us got in five and three. Got the Browns 4617 03:51:19,160 --> 03:51:20,760 Speaker 1: on the road. I feel like this might be a 4618 03:51:20,880 --> 03:51:25,080 Speaker 1: Homer pick by This might be a Homer pick by 4619 03:51:25,200 --> 03:51:28,440 Speaker 1: Cecil Shorts. But what do you have shaking out Browns 4620 03:51:28,520 --> 03:51:31,920 Speaker 1: on the road and Texas? How you got it? Yeah, 4621 03:51:32,000 --> 03:51:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm from Cleveland. So close game, they're gonna both teams 4622 03:51:37,200 --> 03:51:39,200 Speaker 1: are gonna play awesome. I pay the Browns one. It's 4623 03:51:39,200 --> 03:51:41,240 Speaker 1: being honest. It ain't no way the Texas losing to 4624 03:51:41,320 --> 03:51:45,200 Speaker 1: the Browns. I don't see it. Texans go to six 4625 03:51:45,280 --> 03:51:46,880 Speaker 1: and three in my book at that point, Now you 4626 03:51:46,960 --> 03:51:49,880 Speaker 1: got the Patriots at home. How does that one shake out? Yeah, 4627 03:51:49,920 --> 03:51:51,320 Speaker 1: I think that all the opts out of all the 4628 03:51:51,400 --> 03:51:54,040 Speaker 1: opouts on defense hurt them. I think Cam is going 4629 03:51:54,120 --> 03:51:57,000 Speaker 1: to play well, but I just think it's too many 4630 03:51:57,080 --> 03:51:59,200 Speaker 1: guys from that great defense they had last year. They're 4631 03:51:59,240 --> 03:52:02,320 Speaker 1: losing too many of key guys. So I think the 4632 03:52:02,840 --> 03:52:05,320 Speaker 1: Texas actually running away with that win. Okay, Now I 4633 03:52:05,400 --> 03:52:08,160 Speaker 1: got the Patriots losing that game as so I got 4634 03:52:08,200 --> 03:52:10,080 Speaker 1: the Texas winning. So I got him at seven and three. 4635 03:52:10,160 --> 03:52:15,680 Speaker 1: Now Lions Thanksgiving Day? Who pulls that one out? Oh easily? 4636 03:52:15,880 --> 03:52:19,120 Speaker 1: Texas seem I'm against that. I think the Texans going 4637 03:52:19,160 --> 03:52:20,640 Speaker 1: the road and lose to the Lions, and Lions are 4638 03:52:20,680 --> 03:52:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna be better than what people think this year as 4639 03:52:23,240 --> 03:52:25,800 Speaker 1: long as long as Stafford stays healthy. That's gonna be 4640 03:52:25,880 --> 03:52:27,760 Speaker 1: one of those games because after going the street, either 4641 03:52:27,800 --> 03:52:30,240 Speaker 1: one about four games in the road, you're feeling good 4642 03:52:30,280 --> 03:52:35,040 Speaker 1: about yourself about the Lions. Besides that, they always played, 4643 03:52:35,080 --> 03:52:37,640 Speaker 1: they always playing. Thanksgive give you that. That's it. What's 4644 03:52:37,680 --> 03:52:41,760 Speaker 1: the boy? The receiver's name Galla Day? I like. I 4645 03:52:41,880 --> 03:52:44,800 Speaker 1: like the receiving corps. I like mar Marvin Jones. Don't 4646 03:52:44,800 --> 03:52:47,440 Speaker 1: they can get it done. You're going to December. You 4647 03:52:47,520 --> 03:52:50,360 Speaker 1: got the Coats, the Bears, the Coats, the Bangers, and 4648 03:52:50,440 --> 03:52:54,360 Speaker 1: the Titans. Quickly. Now come out where you got uh 4649 03:52:54,880 --> 03:52:59,000 Speaker 1: lose to the Coats, beat the Bears, beat the Coats, 4650 03:52:59,040 --> 03:53:01,200 Speaker 1: just because it's tough to games right, going back and forth. 4651 03:53:01,240 --> 03:53:03,320 Speaker 1: And I think the Coats are gonna be very, very good, 4652 03:53:03,680 --> 03:53:06,560 Speaker 1: very style on defense. They'll beat the Bengals, and then 4653 03:53:06,840 --> 03:53:10,280 Speaker 1: I think they'll be in position to win the This 4654 03:53:10,480 --> 03:53:11,800 Speaker 1: is just what has been happening in the last couple 4655 03:53:11,800 --> 03:53:14,480 Speaker 1: of years. The last game they'll lose simply because they are. 4656 03:53:14,520 --> 03:53:17,400 Speaker 1: The divisions already locked up. So they'll finish the year 4657 03:53:17,480 --> 03:53:21,120 Speaker 1: ten and six. See for me, flip the two Colts games. 4658 03:53:21,160 --> 03:53:24,120 Speaker 1: I think that they will. I think they will win 4659 03:53:24,200 --> 03:53:26,480 Speaker 1: at home, lose on the road, but they will lose 4660 03:53:26,560 --> 03:53:28,560 Speaker 1: that game against the Titans that I got them at 4661 03:53:28,600 --> 03:53:30,520 Speaker 1: ten and six. They'll beat the Bears on the road 4662 03:53:30,560 --> 03:53:32,880 Speaker 1: to beat the Bengals at home. I got ten and 4663 03:53:32,960 --> 03:53:35,560 Speaker 1: six season for the Texans. That's what they will finish 4664 03:53:35,640 --> 03:53:38,640 Speaker 1: the same. It's a toss up to figure out, you know, 4665 03:53:38,920 --> 03:53:41,760 Speaker 1: who's gonna be second. 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