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Speaker 1: This is all life, this is all passion. I'm look Thomas,

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Speaker 1: I'm this this Morning Combat. Whether you're Looks maxing, Jester maxing,

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Speaker 1: frat leader, We've got the show for you. Welcome everyone,

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Speaker 1: it's time for morning Combat here on this thirteenth day

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Speaker 1: of February twenty twenty six. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm merely one half of your host in duo. I

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Speaker 1: join you for the capital of the status Nadas right

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Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. This time with my friend

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Speaker 1: who I'm not sure how well slept he is, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he has any STDs, but he's here.

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Speaker 1: It's Oscar Willis. What's up, Oscar? How are you, Bud?

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Speaker 2: I'm good the second half of that question. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to answer the first half of that question. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's been a little bit of sleep. You know, forty

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Speaker 2: five minutes is enough for a mid thirties guy right here.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk to you. Since the last time

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Speaker 1: we saw you, you went you've been ware? Where have

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Speaker 1: you been the last like three weeks.

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Speaker 2: So I went to Sydney, and then from Sydney, I

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Speaker 2: went to Auckland and I got back to Vegas two

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Speaker 1: But you also went to London for the funeral.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I flew to London for a day,

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Speaker 2: which was great, wild funeral. The priest strawed up halfway

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Speaker 2: through drunk, which was something I've never seen before in

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Speaker 2: my life. And then I flew back to Vegas, did

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Speaker 2: the cards with Gae Chee and Paddy, and then flew

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Speaker 2: it's been a long three weeks. To be honest, I'm

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Speaker 2: actually quite grateful for the little break we have here.

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Speaker 1: What's a better city, Sydney or Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Sydney's fuck alled to do in Auckland. Now, Auckland's very nice,

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Speaker 2: but it's much more chill. Sydney's like very beautiful, lots

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Speaker 2: of stuff going on. Yeah, I actually really like Sidney.

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Speaker 3: I think I'll retire there.

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Speaker 1: My wife compared Sydney to Toronto. She thought it was

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a listen, it depends it depends if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well welcome, this is Yeah, this is Oscar. Willis

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Speaker 1: from the MAC laugh. We appreciate you guys joining us

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to today. I know there's no

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Speaker 1: big events this weekend. There's no UFC, there's no PFL.

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Speaker 1: There is Valentine's Oscar, do you have any big Valentine's

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Speaker 1: Day plans other than just touching yourself inappropriately at the

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Speaker 2: Just jacking off in the mirror as usual. You know

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Speaker 2: it's my favorite, one noose around my neck.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna? What do you What do you

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Speaker 1: do in Las Vegas on a Saturday night where there's

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Speaker 1: genuinely no work, Like you couldn't even do work if

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Speaker 2: Just find the diveest, dirtiest bar and sitting there for

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Speaker 2: eight hours pretty much. D I'm gonna try this weekend

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Speaker 2: to be good. I'd be healthy.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, all right, very good. Well, we're happy to

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Speaker 1: have you here, Thank you for joining us. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about what is going on with the recent cuts

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Speaker 1: There was a a PC Carrol article on if you

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Speaker 1: saw it this morning Oscar. He went with Tom Aspinall

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Speaker 1: Plus MVP thinks the USC might be mad at him.

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Speaker 1: Joaquin Buckley and then but Bud Crawford are going back

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Speaker 1: Defender of Sydney, Australia. He has no accent and I'm

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Speaker 3: I have been to Sydney multiple times, and I've been

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Speaker 1: I've never been to Sydney. I'm only repeating what I heard.

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Speaker 2: Well, I always to Sydney multiple times.

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Speaker 3: I'm fucking half Australian, bro. I've been to Australia like

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Speaker 3: five times.

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Speaker 1: He's an Australian citizen. His dad is Australian.

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Speaker 3: You know what, You've never heard of my horned up

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Speaker 3: Aussie dad. I mean, have do you even watch this show?

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Speaker 3: It's like, my goodness, no, but Sydney to me is beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Dude, it's like I was, Australians are probably gonna hate this,

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Speaker 4: but I always compare Melbourne to like New York, beautiful,

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Speaker 3: He went on his honeymoon in Sydney, so he would

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Speaker 1: we can reach the show Morning Combat at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Oh Laurn Luke, come back one more time if you

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Speaker 1: can tell them the game we're going to play today.

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Speaker 3: Oh so we got a game. It's called Combat Couples.

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Speaker 3: It's a little Valentine's Day special where I'm gonna show

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Speaker 3: the guys Couples they're gonna answer questions based on the

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Speaker 4: We're gonna kind of intervene some like have you seen

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Speaker 3: So hell yeah, it should be a fun game.

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Speaker 4: It's it's themed around the holidays, so Friday the thirteenth today,

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Speaker 3: Let's get spooky with it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we'll come back real quickly. And we're doing fan

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Speaker 4: And a reminder to everyone please keep sending fan subs

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Speaker 4: in memes especially we want to do like the Funniest

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Speaker 4: Meme contest or something, but either way, keep sending them in. Also, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, I got to use this opportunity new prop

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Speaker 4: quiz dropping after this show here. It's Ben the Bane

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Speaker 4: taking on Sean she and Sean Sheen making his prop

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Speaker 3: So they check that out, all right, very good?

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, he seems to be dialed in all

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Speaker 1: that goes, all right, Oscar anything else before we get

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Speaker 1: to it now, topic number one. So earlier this week

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Speaker 2: to put him against I mean, tied to us is

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Speaker 1: that would be. So I get to your point, like

431
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 1: the kind of like unclogs a little bit, and so

432
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 1: they can at least be some movement and there's some

433
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: value there. I don't mind that they got rid of

434
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 1: a guy who I think was regressing and kind of

435
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,239
Speaker 1: phoning it in at times. On the other hand, you know,

436
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,959
Speaker 1: this is one of those divisions where, at least at

437
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: the present moment, beggars can't be choosers, you know what

438
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, it's just one of those situations where

439
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot to work with, and so

440
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: cutting anyone, especially within the top ten, feels a little risky.

441
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not quite the right word, but a little

442
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 1: strange perhaps last thing on this Did you get a chance?

443
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: I know it came out before the show, so if

444
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: you didn't, it's totally cool. Did you get a chance

445
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: to read the pizza Carol uncrowned?

446
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: I actually didn't know he was there. That's pretty cool

447
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 2: that he went. Probably not the funniest thing to watch.

448
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 2: You'd never see, do you know what I mean?

449
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: Describing like a clockwork orange surgery where that to hold

450
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: his eyes? I won't belabor the point, but suffice to say, dude,

451
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 1: Tom Aspinall's eyes are fucked. He has no peripheral vision

452
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: in one of them, Like he can't see motion happening

453
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: to the side and on the other one, and he's

454
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: got a giant black spot sitting in the center of

455
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: the eye, so wherever he looks, it's black. He can't

456
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 1: go pick up his kids from school, he can't run

457
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: errands unattended. He can't leave the house without some kind

458
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 1: of person helping him to get where he wants to go.

459
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: He can't play video games. He is like absolutely, I'm

460
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: not going to say incapacitated per se, but he was

461
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: making a point, like when his knee was messed up

462
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, if you sit down, it just stops hurting. Right, Yeah,

463
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: you're not mobile, but you're not sitting there in pain.

464
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: He's like, as long as I am awake, I am

465
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: consistently reminded of this problem. Hearing what they're reporting here,

466
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: and what the hope is of this surgery is that

467
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 1: it will get rid of the black spot and then

468
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: what they think is it's going to trigger potentially the

469
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: improvement of his peripheral vision. But they at least acknowledge

470
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: that while they can fix the black spot with the

471
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: surgery that he got, they may have to do an

472
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: additional surgery to restore his peripheral vision. Guys, I don't

473
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: know when he's competing at this point. I'm being dead

474
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 1: serious about this. I have no idea when he is

475
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: going to return. Your reaction to hearing some of these

476
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: medical updates.

477
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well also as well. You know, it's not like

478
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: when when this stuff is healing, he can't take any impact,

479
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's not just that

480
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: he's off. He's not like he's not training. He can't train,

481
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: you know, because if there's an impact, it can completely

482
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: ruin the surgery. For me. The I spoke to Tom,

483
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: And for me that the easiest way to understand what's

484
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: going on here, because I know people look at that

485
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: ipoke and they sort of thing, raw, Uh, it's not

486
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: the poke that's done his eyes, it's the force that

487
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: they were pushed with. Basically. You know, Cyril Gun is

488
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: a massive man, and it's the force of which his

489
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: eyes were hit that has caused the damage and caused

490
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: this long term issue. And in terms of when he's

491
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: competing again, yeah, man, it could be a very I

492
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: don't want to say, but like, who knows if it's

493
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: this year. And I feel for Tom really because, as

494
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 2: you said, every time he's awake, he's reminded of this.

495
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he's necessarily in a very happy place

496
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: right now, as you can imagine. And I think it's

497
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: probably quite hard, you know that. I don't know if

498
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: this is happening right there's rumors of a serial Pereira

499
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: interim fight. I mean, how would you feel if the

500
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: guy who fucking ruined your eyes gets another shot? You know?

501
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's very very hard for him to sort

502
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: of sit there. And he's a younger guy and he's

503
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: had this crazy career of like amazing successes and then

504
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: like a big setback with the knee amazing success and

505
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: then this. It's very, very unfortunate, and in a division

506
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: that is talent starved. I still maintain Tom could be

507
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: one of the best we've ever seen in that division,

508
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 2: just in terms of his ability and his athleticism. So

509
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: it fucking sucks for him, to be honest, and I

510
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: feel for the guy.

511
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Tim Toby is one of those guys.

512
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: What I said, I think he would do well, But

513
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: I do think against the guy like Gone or against

514
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: the guy like Aspinall, that would come that I would

515
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: not picked Tim over those two guys, for example, because

516
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 1: I do think that they represent a very different kind

517
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: of athletic profile That would just be kryptonite for a

518
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: guy like that. But at the same time, my god, dude,

519
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: if Aspinall is not there and they're doing Gone versus Perreira,

520
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: are you hearing that, that could be a white house fight.

521
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: No, I heard that could be sooner. I think I didn't.

522
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: Like I mean, listen, it's all rumors. It's not like

523
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: I've got a particularly good source on that. I'm reacting

524
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: to Pereira's posts and stuff like that, but I did

525
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: wonder if maybe Miami I have not like the main

526
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: event that kind of keeps moving around.

527
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 4: So if they don't have fight, Cyril gone will have

528
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: fought like the best heavyweights of this era in Ghanu,

529
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: John Jones, Espinall and Alex Perera.

530
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: That would be fucking wild for me.

531
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: The main thing is if they did that Pereira, that

532
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: basically means John's gone. Right, if they're doing Pereira for

533
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: a heavyweight title fight, I don't, I don't.

534
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: Look look look at me. John is gone. He's gone,

535
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: and you love it. You're so happy that he's It's

536
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: not even that, it's just like, dude, the guy is.

537
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: He's the best life heavyweight I've ever seen, by a

538
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: million miles. I was there for basically the entire run.

539
00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: But he is a manipulator. He is a bullshitter, He

540
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: is attention starved. And so when you realize those are

541
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: also major motivating factors and how he especially how he

542
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: interacts with the public, you just can't take anything he says.

543
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that so much seriously, but you can't

544
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: accept any of it at face value. And a lot

545
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: of it you have to realize is just to manipulate

546
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: how he's viewed in a present moment or whatever, like

547
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: this idea, like the stuff about the arthritic kimp. You

548
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: saw what Cormier said. Cormier was like, he probably put

549
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: that out intentionally. Cormier. I guarantee Cormier is right. I

550
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: guarantee that's correct. I guarantee he was. He didn't get

551
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: the nod for the Poeton fight that he wanted, certainly

552
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: not in the White House, and I think he was like,

553
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: well it was if it wasn't going to be Tom,

554
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: it was going to be that. And now he's like, okay,

555
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: well I'm kind of checked out. Like, I guarantee that's correct.

556
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: I just it's like when he retired, it's like, oh no,

557
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm back now. If they had given him the White

558
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: House fight, that would have been okay, well, yes we'll

559
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: come back for that. But if they're not even going

560
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: to give him that, all the rest of this is

561
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: just bullshit. It's just total bullshit. You know, I don't

562
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: believe any of it.

563
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: This is why he won't answer your questions, this sort

564
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: of talk.

565
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have any more. I don't have anymore. Now.

566
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: It's like, here's my question, when are you leaving? That's

567
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: my question.

568
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: Well, no, now you get to watch him in Gable's

569
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: corner for the rest of his career. Verry Floyd Mayweather

570
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: Tank vibes that that whole thing curious how that's going

571
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: to turn out? John giving the spotlight someone else is

572
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: not real and his forte.

573
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also that was a little different though, because Floyd

574
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: was kind of a bit of a money influence too,

575
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: like how to manage your career, not just training a guy.

576
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: I think John's doing that for Gable. I think John's like, oh,

577
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: is that right. I think John's like he's de facto manager.

578
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust that guy to be dogcatcher in my

579
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: much less fucking manage my money. Please very quickly, Long Island, Luke,

580
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: you had eye surgery ten years ago.

581
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I was born with cataracts and me I have

582
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 3: four or three siblings. I'm the fourth. Obviously, three of

583
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: us were born with cataracts because my mom had cataracts,

584
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: so we all had to get the surgery. But you

585
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: have to wait till you're like, like, my niece actually

586
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: was born with it too. She just got the surgery.

587
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: She's fourteen, so she got it very young, but we

588
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 3: all waited till our like mid twenties to get it.

589
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: But yo, I like, I didn't realize how shitty my

590
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: eyesight was my whole life until I got this surgery,

591
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: and it was crazy. The point I wanted to bring

592
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: up was they had to do one eye.

593
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: You had to wait like three weeks, then they do

594
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: the other eye, because obviously you were bandaged up. I

595
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: would have not had any eyesight. But they told me.

596
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 4: They said, Yo, don't be like horsing around with your

597
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: friends and shit. They were like, if someone lightly taps

598
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: you in the eye, you can go permanently blind in

599
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: that healing stage. Now, I don't know if tom surgery

600
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: was more intense than this or not. I'm just saying

601
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: I can only imagine going back to sparring, let alone

602
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 4: getting fully punched in the face as hard as you cut. Like,

603
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 4: I'd be really worried if I was Tom. So I

604
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: understand he's gonna be taking it slow.

605
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh so as well. Imagine right, So, you get the surgery,

606
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: a fucking horrible experience by the sound of it. Then

607
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: you're told that you have to sit out from basically

608
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: in a dark room until you're better and the only

609
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: thing you have to look forward to is potentially doing

610
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: it again, you know what I mean. It's not like

611
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: he would be within his rise to be like fuck

612
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: this fighting shit, you know what I mean? Like this,

613
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: and then even if you get through all that and

614
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: they're like you can fight again, all you're thinking is

615
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: really sucking. I got poked in the eye again, do

616
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It's probably a really like this.

617
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to like like make it like Daddy took,

618
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: but he's probably really traumatic event for the guy, genuinely

619
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: like traumatic event.

620
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: Also, you know in boxing, I mean, I will see

621
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: this won't be the case, I'm sure with zoop of boxing,

622
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: but in general, outside of that, if you're a boxer,

623
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: now sometimes you have to negotiate it with the promoter

624
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: or the opponent or the commission as well, but you

625
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: have some discretion over what kind of glove you can

626
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: use horsehair standard padding size is more a function of

627
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: the weight class and the number of rounds or whatever,

628
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: but you have some discretion over that. If there was

629
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: a similar kind of discretion in MMA, and I was

630
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: Tom Aspital, I'd be like, we're not competing unless you're

631
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: using a curved glove. I want to be clear one

632
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: more time. The Association of Ringside Physicians conducted a study

633
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: about this, and what they found was that there is

634
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: a statistically significant improvement measurable between the curvature of the

635
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: glove geometry over the knuckles versus the ones where you

636
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: can just go straight. I don't know why the UFC

637
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: has not employed this technology, even in the newer gloves

638
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: that they had tried. I really don't understand what the

639
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: problem is. But if it was up to me and

640
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: I had a choice, I would at one billion percent

641
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: I would elect to be using that. All right, Well,

642
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: that out of the way, let's go to topic number two.

643
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: This was an interesting one. I didn't quite know what

644
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: to make of it, so I want to put on

645
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Toda's show Oscar to see what you had to say.

646
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz put out a recent social media message and

647
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: it was a little bit I'm not cryptic, it's not

648
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: quite the right word, but it seemed to indicate perhaps

649
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: an imminent return to the octagon. Here is the message.

650
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: Let me read it out for people who might be

651
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: listening on the audio platforms. Quote. Let's not act like

652
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: I didn't start a whole division bringing value to all

653
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: these guys claiming they're it. I gave opportunity and I

654
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: put notice on the dopest fights. I got unfinished business,

655
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: and I plan on going and taking what's mine asap,

656
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: first to ever start a division, and the dopest one

657
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: at that, You're welcome, your spelled wrong, mfors I'll see

658
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: you soon, I'm coming, and then it's the fist emoji.

659
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: Then he also put this one up BMF the BMF

660
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 1: belt and put unfinished business below it as the caption.

661
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: My question to you, Oscar willis what exactly do you think,

662
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: in the year of our Lord twenty twenty six is

663
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: the appetite from the fans for a Dias return. Now

664
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: you might be able to say, well, it might be

665
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: matchmaking dependent, So walk me through. What would you say

666
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: are the fights that would be of the most level

667
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: of interest and to what extent do you think even

668
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: UFC has interest even in the high end of what

669
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: that could be.

670
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: I think I saw like some of the reaction to

671
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: this as like, oh, ghetto, You're like, no way, Nate,

672
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: You'll like post it. But I think if they booked

673
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: Nate Diaz to have a fight. People would get excited

674
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. I know I would. I actually like when

675
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: I saw it, I was like, I actually would love

676
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: Nate to come back again. Not I don't need him

677
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: challenging for titles, but for fun fights. I love Nate

678
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: to come back. We don't. There's a lot of talk

679
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: about the sport being stale right now. Nate's a character

680
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: and gets people emotionally invested, and I think there's somewhat

681
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: lacking in a top a lot of the top guys

682
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: right now. So I'd love him back. I think, as

683
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: you said, matchmaking dependent. I saw him. He said he

684
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: would slap Charles.

685
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: Sure, but I took he took it back.

686
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no. So what happened was everyone thought he

687
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: was talking about Max, and so he had to come

688
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: out and be like, no, I was actually talking about Charles.

689
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: Oh.

690
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: And then he said I shouldn't have said that. I'm sorry,

691
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: but I would, But I'm also sorry. You know, great

692
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: hate stuff, but I mean, like it's sort of I

693
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: will get onto the White House and shit, right. But

694
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: there's certain fights that are like not cannon, you know,

695
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: they kind of don't really matter. They're just fun fights.

696
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: And there's plenty of those for Nate, and obviously I

697
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: think the main one is the trilogy with and I

698
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: think that would be unbelievable if they actually did do that. Yes,

699
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: it's a little bit dated. It reminds me kind of

700
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: like sort of Ladell vandalat Vibes where they finally got

701
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: it done. You know, I'd love to see those guys

702
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 2: do it again, just for nostalgias sake, if anything. But

703
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: in terms of Nate, like why not, you know what

704
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: I mean? Like he beat Mazda in that boxing match,

705
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: It's not like he's completely washed, and I think there

706
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: are definitely guys he can have fun fights with. So

707
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Nate back.

708
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about the Let's let's go

709
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: through like maybe the top three or four fights you'd

710
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: like the most. I agree with you that the Connor

711
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: trilogy would certainly be the one that I think would

712
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: do the most amount of casual fan interest grabbing, so

713
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: to speak. What would be second, or third, or even

714
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: fourth from there?

715
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: I mean again, it's this is where I guess a

716
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: bit tricky, right, But the Poorier fight, I know Pori

717
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: is retired, but that was the one that sort of

718
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: got away, I actitely is hilarious. Nate posted this and

719
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: then Porio posted himself back at att and you sort

720
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: of go, but but no, that one would be great.

721
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing him against Charles, you know, that

722
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: would be quite funny. I think even and again I'm

723
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: not saying necessarily that he's the favorite in any of these,

724
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: but like even a Nate das Paddy Pimnant fight, you know,

725
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of fun in that. There's like, there's

726
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: certain fights like that where I think if you do

727
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: Nate versus another character, those that's where he's best served.

728
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: You know, that's where Nate is at his best. I

729
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: don't think like you need to put him against young,

730
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 2: hungry up and comers, but if you can put him

731
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: against someone else who has like a relationship with the fans,

732
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: fucking I'll be biased, Nate DEAs Dan Hooker, that would

733
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: be fun. You know, Nate DEAs Michael Chandler. Now there's

734
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: loads of fight something. You know, like, there are definitely

735
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: like fights like that where it's against another name guy

736
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: who elicits an emotion from fans. I think that's where

737
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: Nate thrives, and that's where people will want to watch.

738
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: Whatever the standard of the fight may be, they'll be

739
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 2: invested in watching it.

740
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about it yet because it just hasn't

741
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: come up. But what to do with the winner and

742
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: the loser of the three twenty six main event, the

743
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: BMF title fight between Max and Charles Because it's an

744
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: interesting question, right, you could say, well, sar Yukian's waiting

745
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: in the wings after Gaigee gets a shot at Ilia

746
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: if Ilia doesn't end up fighting Islam, right, I mean,

747
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: that's a whole other potential can of worms. So what

748
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: would you do in the event that a title Let's

749
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: walk this through. So if Max ends up winning at

750
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: three twenty six, is the most logical thing to do

751
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: is to then to start considering a rematch with the

752
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: winner of Taporia and Gaigie. Is a sar yuki in

753
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: fight or could Diez slot in there in a BMF

754
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: title fight without the fans revolting being saying well, because

755
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: I want to be clear, nay Diz is going to

756
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: be forty one in April forty one. The last time

757
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: he competed in MMA was in twenty twenty two, so

758
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: would that be an acceptable BMF fight? If if Max

759
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: goes out there or Charles I suppose goes out there

760
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: and wins.

761
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: I mean it would be acceptable, but I do get

762
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: the impression at some point. I think if Max wins,

763
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: for example, I think at some point Max is going

764
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: to be like, I've done the BMF thing. I want

765
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: the actual fight to fight for the title. So I

766
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: can imagine if Max wins, he might not necessarily want

767
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: to do another BMF fight. I can see him actually

768
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 2: kind of holding out for a media rematch or Austin rematch. Yeah,

769
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: I think Charles will fight anyone. I don't think Charles.

770
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: Charles is a lot less picky, do you know what

771
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: I mean? It seems to be anyway. So, but I

772
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: just like Max talks about the title a lot, you know,

773
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: Charles just goes I'm the lion. Max specifically says I

774
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: want to rematch with media, and I actually see, like

775
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 2: I know that he like everybody, he's got a fan

776
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: support now. But I see Armon getting jumped over again.

777
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't like, if Armon can't get himself a fight,

778
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: then like the winner of this will jump over him

779
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: in that title fight. I actually was laughing with someone yesterday.

780
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: If Elia moved up. I would crack up if they

781
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: did Gate Chekona at the White House. That would be

782
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: so funny for the lightweight title, just to see the

783
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: apput the reaction to that would be amazing. But yeah,

784
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: I think that division it's kind of interesting, right, Like

785
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: there's just maybe they do Paddy Armon that kind of

786
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: takes care of that actually, But yeah, it's the BMF.

787
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: Having the BMF in the same division as like the

788
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: best and most sort of after title is going to

789
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: start getting very murky quite quickly. And again, like we're

790
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: talking about the BMF and what that means and so

791
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: on and so forth. I do think it has value now,

792
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: but you are going to start, like when you have

793
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: a title challenger also be the BMF champion, it's going

794
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: to get kind of murky because then like what you know,

795
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 2: like does Max drop the BMFF he fights to the titles.

796
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: You know, this is where I guess a bit murky

797
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: and weird. But as far as Nate's involved in that picture,

798
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: I think you could put him against any BMF fight.

799
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: And again, like I said, it's the BMF fights are

800
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: more about the story and the spectacle of it rather

801
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: than the meritocracy.

802
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: What would you say is your best understanding of the

803
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: UFC's appetite for a NDA's return.

804
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: I always heard that it was not that high. I

805
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: always I always got the impression they were not that

806
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: happy he lost to Jake Paul was the kind of

807
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: the vibe I got.

808
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, how would that be why would that be disqualifying?

809
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, because they fucking he got out, right, he was

810
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: one of the only people in this sport who actually

811
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: got out on a win, didn't get fucked, didn't lucked out,

812
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: but didn't get have to fight hands at, got the

813
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: Tony fight, bailed, got the Jake Paul fight that he wanted,

814
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: kind of won against the UFC, and then didn't win.

815
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: I think that kind of like they they didn't love,

816
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: they didn't like to lose, right, They never like to

817
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: lose in those negotiations. So I think that kind of

818
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: just not soured them. But I think they're like, Okay,

819
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: Nate's time is done, but I don't and also like

820
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: this not like he doesn't get paid very well, you

821
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I think it's a little

822
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: harder for them to justify internally, like oh, let's pay

823
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: this guy X million. Dollars when he's out here showing

824
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: us up. I guess I think it's also changed, right

825
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: when when Nate fought Jake, there was still this argument like, oh,

826
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: these guys should be beating Jake. Now we've actually worked

827
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: out that Jake's pretty good good boxer boxing's better my boxes.

828
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: We'll get on this later, but like boxes boxing is

829
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: usually better than MMA boxing. But at the time when

830
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: he lost to Nate, I think there was still like

831
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: a motherfuckers, you should be getting this guy. So I

832
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: think there is a bit of that. That's just me,

833
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: that's just from the room and mill, but that's.

834
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: What Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure what to say with

835
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: the appetite is I think the fan appetite for it

836
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: is certainly greater than the UFC appetite for it. But

837
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: the interesting part for it to me is that you

838
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: kind of have to gain this one out, which is

839
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: what would you use him for? And again I do

840
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: agree that there are places you could use him. For example,

841
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: to me, the Connor trilogy makes the most amount of

842
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: sense in terms of fun storyline, you know, the style clash,

843
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: but at the same time, dude, he's going to be

844
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: forty one in April. So by the time he comes back,

845
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: he'll be forty one, right, because I don't think he's

846
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: going to be in a card before then, so'll be

847
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: forty one by the time he comes back. And it's like, dude,

848
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: what are we at? Okay, it's one thing to be

849
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: like he injected some life into a pre fight run

850
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: and then the fight itself, maybe you could even say

851
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: delivered whatever whatever that means. But it's like, is anyone

852
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: actually expecting him to win? You know what I mean?

853
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: And not just that he could easily get stopped in

854
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: one of these if for no other reason then cuts

855
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, any number of ways. Obviously the Dias brothers

856
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: have legendary chins, but you know, there's a lot of

857
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: ways that he could just end up getting stopped. And

858
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: it's like, what what what is the what is how

859
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: many times could you even use him? And the answer

860
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: has to be I cannot imagine it'd be more than two.

861
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: I just cannot imagine. There would be a world where

862
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: they give him Connor, he potentially gets thumped, and then

863
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: they give him I don't know, Max or something. He

864
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: gets mega thumped, and like what at that point you

865
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: might be forty two. I just don't wonder. Like, to me,

866
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: it's like, could he provide, in a very narrow but

867
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: important circumstance a shot in the arm. Yes, absolutely believe that.

868
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: But more than that, I don't even see. I just

869
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: don't know what would else be out there. I think

870
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: it's the point that I would come back to. It's

871
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: a sugar.

872
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: High, yeah, and to just go and to your point, right,

873
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're thinking about it too, like, Okay, we

874
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: bring this guy back and then in this first fight

875
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: he gets absolutely fucked up, like how bad do we look?

876
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: And then you know, so, I certainly don't think they're

877
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: thinking about this, but like it would be kind of sad, right,

878
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: you bring Nate back, he gets smashed by one of

879
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: these younger guys and then just goes away again. It's like,

880
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: why would you even bring him back and just gave

881
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: every the lasting image they now have of him is

882
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: him getting destroyed? You know? So there's an element of

883
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: like maybe there's somewhat like a legacy protection by not

884
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: bringing him back, But I don't know. I would still

885
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: like to see it. I just think it's I just

886
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: think it's match match up dependent. But like Matt like

887
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: him and Connor would be would would still feel mega.

888
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: I think I still think that would be great because

889
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: it's even got the nostalgia thing. People who are new

890
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: fans didn't get to watch it in real time. I

891
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: think you would probably feel very, very big.

892
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: Also fans who were like hardcore maybe I don't know,

893
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: five six years ago, who maybe a little bit less

894
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: so they come roaring back for that one. I absolutely

895
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: do think that that is the case Long Island. What

896
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: doll we the top two fights for Nate Diaz if

897
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: he came back this year.

898
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: I just want to start by saying I have zero

899
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: interest in him coming back, but the two best fights,

900
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: will say Connor and uh yeah, I guess Max something

901
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: like that, like another legendary or actually I'll put dust

902
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 3: in there. I'll put dustin seconds.

903
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: Why do you have less than zero? Is what is

904
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: the apprehension?

905
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: I just like, I felt like the end of his

906
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: UFC run was lackluster, and then he's been out for

907
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: what three years now, he's forty one years old?

908
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: Like what do we We're holding on to threads here? Bro,

909
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just like let the man walk.

910
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: It's kind of like man I don't know, I have

911
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 3: no interest.

912
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: I just got to be honest, damn hardcore.

913
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: The other day, he's good. Nate's a good Nate's a

914
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: funny guy. I think like Nate has this sort of

915
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: people have this image of Nate. Nate's actually like a

916
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: very like switched on funny dude.

917
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very friendly. I don't know if you may

918
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: and I remember this, but uh, one time a serious

919
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: xmy Nate and Nick for a long time had a

920
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: series of people around them that did various different things. Now,

921
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: Nate's manager, in my view, the one he had more

922
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: recently anyway, has been a lot more locked on than

923
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: any manager Nick has ever had. But we were working

924
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: with one of Nick's people and they were like, yeah,

925
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: we're going to deliver to you both of the brothers

926
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: in studio. We were in Las Vegas for a show

927
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: and we had, you know, because they had confirmed to

928
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: us that this was going to happen, and so we

929
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: we promoted it and then neither showed up, and you know,

930
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: this was this was live on the air. This was

931
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: live on the air, and of course this was like

932
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: incredibly humiliating and terrible, and Nate somehow caught wind of

933
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: it and then DMed me and was like, hey, I

934
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: don't know how this happened. No one even told me

935
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: about this, but you want to meet up later? And

936
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: I said sure, and I met up with him at

937
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: a casino. He was with Joe Shilling and I forget

938
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: somebody else. They have been there too that I recognize.

939
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I forget, and he was like, he didn't, he didn't

940
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: need to do any of this. He was apologetic. He was,

941
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, he was like, hey, do you want to

942
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: hang out with us? We're going to go to clubs,

943
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: We're going to hang out. Do you want to come

944
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: with us? I declined at the time, but he made

945
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: an effort to be like, hey, I don't know how

946
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: this happened. I'm really sorry. I'll make it up to you,

947
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So you know, he was very friendly

948
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: and again just he seemed like he wanted to do

949
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: right by me given what all had happened. And I

950
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: think he was obviously covering for this guy who was

951
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: in Nick's orbit, who was a fucking lying idiot. So

952
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: so so I have so I have great I have

953
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: great appreciation for Nate for doing that. You know, he

954
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: turned to something he didn't have to do.

955
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: When Nate for Jake Pool, I think it was in

956
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: Texas after they did the press conference, Nate like really

957
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: freaked out that kid. He used to ask goofy questions

958
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: like you know what's going to happen when you get

959
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: fucked up? Like virick better, that's the one, and Nate

960
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: freaked out. And then afterwards there was a group of

961
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: those like four or five of us ever may reporters,

962
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 2: like in the lobby of a hotel, and Nate saw

963
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: us there, I was like, I'm going to Whole Foods.

964
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: I'll be right back, okay. And then he came back

965
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: after like thirty forty five minutes and sat with us

966
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: and explained for like ten minutes in real, like passionate detail,

967
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: why he hated Jake so much, why he felt like

968
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: Jake was a really bad influence on the kids, why

969
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: he felt like he's presented as this bad guy, but

970
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: actually all he does is like trained kids jiu jitsu,

971
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: whereas Jake's out here turning the island boys gay, is

972
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: what he said. But like he was really quite passionate

973
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: about it, and that was another really cool moment. And

974
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: then at the end he just went, you know, I

975
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: just wanted to give you guys some context and then

976
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: just bailed. It was just it was a really cool moment.

977
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: But again, like you said, he didn't need to do that.

978
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: He really he recognized we with the MMA guys, he

979
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: wanted to like sort of let us know that he

980
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: appreciated us being there and stuff with that. So that

981
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: was a really cool moment. And the other like short

982
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: Nate Dias story I have was I think it was

983
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: before the Tony they did. They did. I think it

984
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: was a way into something and pr said to Nate, Nate,

985
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: you just have four more interviews, and he went right

986
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: for sure, took out his phone and then just slowly

987
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: turned and then sprinted out of the basually like all

988
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 2: of us are going, where's Nate? They just ran as

989
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: fasty good. So yeah, character I love the guy.

990
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: One of one of my one of my great accomplishments

991
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: was I had briefly hosted or as co host. It

992
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: wasn't the main host, but I briefly co hosted MMA

993
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: and Censored live. This was a national TV show on

994
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: Spike TV. Was it was live. It was like it

995
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: was like an precursor to MMA Beat or something, but

996
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: like on TV, it only lasted one season. It was

997
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: great fun. But we we one of the episodes, we

998
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: got Nick and Nate in studio together and they actually

999
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: showed up because at that time Viacom flew him out

1000
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: and they show up and they were real friendly to me,

1001
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: and we sit them down and then you know, the

1002
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: cameras start and neither of them has a thing to say,

1003
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 1: like nothing, nothing to say because Nate at that time

1004
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: had it broken out of his shell. Nick was kind

1005
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: of the guy, but you know Nick, he's you know, yeah,

1006
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: he's mercurial and at times hard to read. Anyway, though,

1007
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: the camera goes off and they're back to being friendly

1008
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: again and they're like, you know, and we told them

1009
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: because every after every episode the crew would go out

1010
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: to eat and drink and in New York City, and

1011
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: we're like, we invited him and then I'll never forget.

1012
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: Nate was like, I can go out, but I can

1013
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: only drink vegan beer. And so the only place around

1014
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: because the show was shot in Times Square, the only

1015
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: place around there that served vegan beer was Guy fieris

1016
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: like Flavortown restaurants. So we went and drank at Flavortown

1017
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: because Nate had to have vegan beer. But it was cool,

1018
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: Like the was it was the fucking weirdest thing. It

1019
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: was like, we didn't even know if they were gonna

1020
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: get on the flights that day. They missed their first flights,

1021
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: they get on the second ones. They actually made it.

1022
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: Don't say a fucking word on the air. And then afterwards,

1023
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, Nate's out there doing like the life of

1024
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: the party and shit. You know, it was like, uh,

1025
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: just one of a strange, strange moments.

1026
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: The interview a curse right when they're amazing off camera

1027
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: and then the camera rolls and they just shut up.

1028
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: You're just like, what happened? Why?

1029
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you got to get those metaglasses, just

1030
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: because you catch all the good stuff that way. All right,

1031
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: let's go to topic number three. UFC President Dana White

1032
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: told Friend of the Show former host Brian Campbell that

1033
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: the UFC White House event will actually be the organization's

1034
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: most watched card ever, the most watched event in UFC history.

1035
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: That is what they believe. That is what they told

1036
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: Brian campb We're gonna take a look at that claim

1037
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: here in just a minute. Actually know what Before I

1038
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: go any further, I've got a question for you. Ask her.

1039
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: Let's set the context. Let's see what Dana told Brian.

1040
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 5: Let's close with this. You tease that White House card.

1041
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 5: We're all excited for it come June on the South Lawn.

1042
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 5: We talked so much about the logistics of it, but

1043
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 5: now you're literally about to enter into the matchmaking of it.

1044
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 5: And you have a good problem to have almost every

1045
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 5: big name fighter seemingly going out of their way to

1046
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 5: publicly say I want on that card. What can you

1047
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 5: tell us if you can tell us anything now, Dana,

1048
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 5: about the structure of the card. How many title fights

1049
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 5: is the right call? How many big names of old

1050
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: John Jones, cornor McGregor, what are we going to see Sunday,

1051
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 5: June fourteenth.

1052
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 6: Well, we're going to figure that all out this week.

1053
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 6: But when you look at you know, this is like

1054
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 6: a one of one event, something that will never happen again.

1055
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 6: And we, you know, building this card. I've already we

1056
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 6: have this video rendering of what it looks like. We

1057
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 6: literally have the trees that are in the you know,

1058
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 6: the South Lawn will know exactly where the sun is

1059
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 6: until it sets, you know, so all the logistics are

1060
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 6: done and now it's time to we believe that this

1061
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 6: is going to be the most watch UFC event ever.

1062
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: All right, So there's some I don't understand some of

1063
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: the three D renderings of the Lincoln Memorial, which is

1064
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: not close in any I mean, you could walk it,

1065
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: or you could scooter it, or you could buke it,

1066
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: but they're they're not co located in that particular way.

1067
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: It's a it's a bit of a walk quite quite

1068
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: a while from the White House to the Lincoln Memorial.

1069
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: Putting that aside, you saw what you had to say,

1070
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: You saw some of the renderings. The question is as follows.

1071
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: Is it realistic to think that a six or seven

1072
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: fight card would be the most washed one over events

1073
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: like Habie versus Connor, which had an enormous amount of

1074
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: promotion heat and then obviously this was Connor at his

1075
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: relative popularity peak. Will the event achieve that goal no

1076
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: matter the matchmaking or again is it matchmaking dependent? What

1077
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: do you think? Share for me what your impression is.

1078
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: It's really an interesting one, right because the X factors

1079
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: obviously the White House, But sometimes I wonder if actually

1080
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: that turns people off? You know, like the casual audience.

1081
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they just I want to deal with it. Obviously

1082
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: we know about the political climate. It's not for everyone,

1083
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: so maybe part of me one is if actually the

1084
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: X factor for the White House isn't the home run

1085
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: that we might expect it. I think it is, but

1086
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: it's just something to think about.

1087
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll obviously be very highly watched. The question

1088
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: is do we think it's the runaway most watched event

1089
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: and what circumstances.

1090
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: It's weird because obviously I feel like the sport has

1091
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: grown since Conna. Kuld be right, but it feels like

1092
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: it feels like we've lost fans, but the sports is bigger.

1093
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: It's a very weird that it's much more just like

1094
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: accepted and like it's much more just tolerated as a

1095
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: regular sport now. I guess that even eighteen, so it's

1096
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: much more accessible in terms of like people aren't going, oh,

1097
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: cage fighting, you know, I think it's much more accessible.

1098
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: I do feel like maybe like if you had Eadio

1099
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: Toporio versus justin Gage, let's say that's the main event.

1100
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if that grabs people as much as

1101
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: Connor could be. Conna Kudbibe was Obviously, it's probably one

1102
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: of the biggest fights of all time. It's an interesting one.

1103
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm curious.

1104
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, is as like the MacLife guy.

1105
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, it's not like Connor's calling you

1106
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: up every day telling you exactly what he thinks. However,

1107
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: this is a question I get, and I don't know

1108
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: how to answer it because everything about this kind of

1109
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: like defies convention. You know, they might have more than

1110
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: three title fights, they might have less than seven fights,

1111
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's hello, it's at

1112
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: the White House. Like it's just a very very weird event,

1113
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: unusual from convention. If they had Ilia versus Gay Chee

1114
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: as your main event, let's presume for a second that's

1115
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: the main event, would Connor allow himself to be on

1116
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: the comin or.

1117
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. I also, I'm sure Connor wouldn't

1118
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: mind a three round of it's just like really hot,

1119
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: like you know it Come has been away for a while.

1120
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure three rounds would probably be quite helpful for him,

1121
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: you know. But again, it's I think it's you know,

1122
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: people have egos, and I don't know if I think

1123
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: it probably depends on who who would the main event be, Like,

1124
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: is Connor going to play second fiddle to Edio or Gaichee,

1125
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: both men he's had like kind of a thing with,

1126
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: And certainly I don't think he wants to play second

1127
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: fiddle to like the new generation that is Eadia. But

1128
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: I also think he wants to be on that card.

1129
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: And I think it's actually funny, like, you know, because

1130
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: all these big names are coming out saying they want

1131
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: on that card, Like none of them have any leverage

1132
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: because let's say they can't come to a deal with Connor,

1133
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: they can go to John. Let's say they can't come

1134
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: to deal with John, then go to Gachi, an idiot.

1135
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: You know, they just have so many options. It's like

1136
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: the fighters themselves don't really have like any leverage. I

1137
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: think he would do Comain, I don't know, true, But

1138
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: then again, would you want him to be Komaine? He

1139
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: is still the biggest star in the sport by a

1140
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: long way.

1141
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: So well that's the other part too. Let's like, let's

1142
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: say they bring Nate back. If they do Connor Nate

1143
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: three as a three rounder, is that what we want?

1144
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

1145
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: You couldn't do that though. That's the thing, right, But also,

1146
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: like the whole thing about the Connor status on the

1147
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: White House is when they took away when Dana took

1148
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: away the Childler fight, it does make you sort of

1149
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: what the fuck are they don't going to do with

1150
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: him then? And I do wonder where they see Connor.

1151
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: Do they see Connor as like, well, he you know,

1152
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: we're going to pay him a lot of money, so

1153
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: he has to fight, Like does he fight Max? You know,

1154
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: if Max wins or Charles or Charles? Is that what

1155
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: they're planning?

1156
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: You know?

1157
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 2: I also think as well, not to accuse the UFC

1158
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: of being cheap, but you know, there's this They're not

1159
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: gonna have any sponsors on the canvas and stuff like that.

1160
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: They've already made their money from the TV deal. So

1161
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: being that this event is already costing them millions and

1162
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: millions of dollars to do because of the logistics of it,

1163
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: do they then want to fork out millions and millions

1164
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: of dollars to the fighters or do they feel like

1165
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: the White House is the selling point we can do

1166
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: either engage and we don't want to pay thirty million

1167
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: plus to Connor or anything.

1168
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1169
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: I wonder how what does the card look like? Do

1170
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: they stack it up as much they're saying, or do

1171
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: they think like, well, we kind of just will put

1172
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: young up and Combers on it. We'll put Gable steveson

1173
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: on there, We'll put bow Nickel on there, and then

1174
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: we'll have just like one or two massive fighters title fights.

1175
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: It's really cool. I don't know how they're I don't

1176
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: know how they're looking at it. I would be I

1177
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: think I saw you talking about it, But like O'Connor

1178
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 2: or a John fight is kind of a gimme because

1179
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't affect the rest of their calendar, you know,

1180
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: So those are the fights I feel like they should

1181
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: probably look towards, right, and then the rest of the

1182
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 2: year sucks. So I think like, yeah, it's secure. And also, again,

1183
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: as I like you coming back to you, I presume

1184
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: the President has a say and who's fighting on it.

1185
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: I presume they're going to show him the card and

1186
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: he'll be like, yes, yes, yes, they're all white.

1187
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 3: I think.

1188
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean to me, it's like, do I think that

1189
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: it could end up being the most watched UFC event ever?

1190
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: I do think that is on the table. Yes, I

1191
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: do think it's on the table. However, you know, one

1192
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: of the things that I think we have to consider

1193
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: are one let's start with just like the sports side,

1194
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: it is going to be matchmaking dependent. It is going

1195
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: to be you know, a question of like how palatable

1196
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: this is not so much for people like the White

1197
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: House angle will sell some people to watch, for sure,

1198
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, the thing that

1199
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: gets people to watch fight sports are the fights, Like

1200
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: what what are you showing to us at the end

1201
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: of the day. And to your point, it is true,

1202
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: like relative to twenty sixteen when Connor and Habib fought,

1203
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: it's like MMA is more within the firmament of accepted

1204
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: sports and activities in the sporting world, but it does

1205
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: feel like it has shrunk a little bit in terms

1206
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: of like who's participating it and how many people are

1207
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: part of it. And so to me, in a world

1208
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: like that, matchmaking is absolutely really, really really critical, Like

1209
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: you have to find a way to make the most exciting,

1210
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: biggest fights that you can think of. And I just

1211
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: even like the best permutations Ilia for example versus Islam,

1212
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: what does that actually drive at the box office? I

1213
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: don't think that comes even a fraction as close as

1214
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: Connor and Habib in twenty sixteen. It's just dude, people

1215
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: forget this. Connor was obviously a massive, massive star. Habib

1216
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: was a big fucking name in twenty sixteen too, Like

1217
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: you had two powering names in the MMA world. Neither

1218
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Islam nor Ilia are even as big as Habib, to

1219
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: say nothing of twenty sixteen Connor. So that to me

1220
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: is kind of like a real bit of a challenge.

1221
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Interesting to go ahead.

1222
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: I sorry, I would go as far as to say

1223
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: neither of Eadio or Islam or as big.

1224
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: As Nate was back then in twenty sixteen.

1225
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like the Nate thing caught fire,

1226
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: you know, and like pay per view is what it is,

1227
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: it's completely changed. But Connor sold over a million pay

1228
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: per views like seven times in a row, I think

1229
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: it was, And I just don't would eaither in Islam less.

1230
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: So you pick them up and put them back, then

1231
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: do either of them sell a million pay per views?

1232
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I just think that. I just think

1233
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 2: it's very hard to sort of get your head around

1234
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: what a stratospheric star Connor was, you know, like him

1235
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: and Mayweather in my opinion too, by far and away

1236
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: the best paper v cells ever A profromly you know

1237
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: it got Tyson and stuff like that, but like it's

1238
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: very hard to sort of get your head around, just

1239
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: like how fucking big Connor actually was.

1240
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah I put Pakia was close to that too at

1241
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: the prime.

1242
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I just so, yeah, it's I'm very curious.

1243
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: And I again, also they have the CBS element, right,

1244
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: Like if you whack a couple of big names on

1245
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: CBS to lead into that, does that then boost the

1246
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: main you know, stuff like that.

1247
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: I think they have no pay per view. Connor and

1248
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: Habibe were behind a pay per view, and again that

1249
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: also drove people to like kind of covet it as

1250
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: an event to be there, but at the same time

1251
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: it also keeps some people out too. This won't necessarily

1252
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: have that, I also do think, and this one is

1253
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: I just want to mention it because I do think

1254
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: it's important to at least to consider how it will

1255
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: look at you know, by June is just I don't know,

1256
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: nobody can know. It's just is impossible to say. But like,

1257
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: this is a political event. I know folks want to

1258
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: be like, oh, it's just a fight event. It is

1259
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: not just a fight event. It is happening because it

1260
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: is a reward for the UFC's boosterism for Trump as

1261
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: a candidate for the twenty twenty four election. That's why

1262
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: it's a reward for that. And so because there's this

1263
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: intertwining of what the political establishment as well as this

1264
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: sports brand, you know, there's political implications for it, Like,

1265
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: for example, I don't think MMA media is going to

1266
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: be particularly adversarial towards the event, but I can imagine

1267
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: oscar that there's going to be a lot of political

1268
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: media that will be very adversarial about it. And what

1269
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: that does to both drive more attention as well as

1270
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: to drive people away. Right, there's a polarizing effect. And

1271
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: how that all plays out in the wash, I don't know.

1272
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Also, not for nothing like Trump's health

1273
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: is not great. I mean, I don't know what that

1274
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: will mean between now and then, But there's just a

1275
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: lot of factors about like what could happen between now

1276
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: and June on the more political side, let'st the sports side.

1277
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Speaker 1: Of the sports side, as we just indicated, is relevant

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00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: to that can make this a little bit harder to go.

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00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: So I think to wrap this up for me, Oscar,

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00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: I absolutely believe it can do that, but whether it

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: will in the end, to me, it remains to be seen.

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: I alwayso think as well. One thing that it has

1283
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: has an advantage for this event over any other UFC

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00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: event is big because it's at the White House. It

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00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: will defacto get global coverage, right like, every country will

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00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: at least acknowledge this event happening because a it's a

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00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: very American thing to do, but also it's just like

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00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: it's it's a global event because it's at the White House,

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00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: it's Trump's birthday, it's going to be you know, USA.

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00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: But because of that, it will I have no doubt

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00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: it will be the most covered UFC event of all time.

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00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: I think it will get the most articles and column inches.

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00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: Whether that translates to viewerships, I'm not sure, but I

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00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: sort of just realized that as I was sitting here

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00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: that the white House factor means it will be global news,

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00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: which is something that is very very hard. You know,

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00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: not since Connor or Floyd have we seen the combat

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00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: sports get that level of attention.

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Speaker 1: Did you cover Mayweather Pakia?

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00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: I didn't do Mayor with the Pakia. I did may Weather.

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: But I was actually thinking, like, when was the last

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00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: time there was a fight that like drove people into

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00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: the bars, like you could not miss this, that you

1304
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: could charge cover at the bar. It was like a

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Speaker 2: social event, like I don't think there's been one like

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01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: that since probably Mayweather Migwega, where like everyone on the

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01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: streets talking about it. I even feel in.

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Speaker 1: Vegas, well, no, you know what the Jake I hate

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01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: to say, this Jays fight. Yeah, you know, I'll never

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: forget that night. There's a local restaurant that I went to.

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01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: It's like a neighborhood bar restaurant, you know, just a

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Speaker 1: total family place, and we were sitting there eating and

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, every conversation around me was about the

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Speaker 1: Jake Paul Tyson fight. Like it absolutely was that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing.

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01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that is true, and it just I

1317
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: think maybe that's more like a just in the modern age,

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: like these things don't live in the memory as long

1319
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: and obviously that performance was never going to live in

1320
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: the memory, you know what I mean. But you're right,

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01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: that is the last one, and actually that's probably as

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01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: massive as the other two. So fair play. But I

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01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: think and actually to be honest, I actually felt like

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01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: Jake Paul Joshua not nowhere near as close, but I

1325
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: felt like the aftermath of that, everyone was talking about it,

1326
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: you know, like I was finding out his fucking shit rcked.

1327
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're right, But in terms of like UFC proper,

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01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't really feel like any of those things get

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01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: that level of sort of space in the sphere. I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just gonna say, I covered Mayweather Pakia

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01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: for SB Nation at the time, and I'll never forget.

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01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: I went to the press conference, which was in the

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Speaker 1: co Theater in MGM, and they had they had a

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01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: section for like US press, and then I went down

1335
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: the line in the main section, in the side section

1336
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget it had like the number one

1337
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: paper for Columbia, number one paper for the Philippines. Obviously

1338
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: the Philippines was going to be big there, but he

1339
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: had a number one paper for Uruguay, number one media

1340
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: outlet for Mexico, number one, you know what I mean.

1341
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: It had all these spaces designated geographically for the Germans,

1342
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: for the Dutch, for the Australians, like for all of

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01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: these entities that were there, And I'm not saying that

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: the White House card will be that exactly. But like,

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01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: I've seen what it's like when a global event happens

1346
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: in combat sports and the reach is unlike anything else

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: other than to your point, may Max, right, I think

1348
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: may Max, But I was. I was in the media

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Speaker 1: attent for may Max that was also fucking insane.

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't remember the last time I was

1351
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: crushed by tripods, you know, like the last time I

1352
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: like there was just like completely like fuck, I don't

1353
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: remember the last time I had to do that. So

1354
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: that speaks to your point as well, Like it just

1355
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: feels I think combat sports in generals kind of dropped.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember Carrot Top showing up to the media

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01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: tent for Maymac smelling like booze every single morning? Do

1358
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: you remember that?

1359
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: I obviously had a very different experience of Mayweather McGregor,

1360
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: but that night was I was. I just remember, like

1361
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: off the top of the head. After the fight, Demie

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: Levado came in Connor's locker room and Connor's going around

1363
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: meeting all the people and they said, oh, this is

1364
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: Demie Levato and he was like, did you sing the

1365
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: national anthem for Floyd? And she went yeah, I'm such

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01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: a big fan. He just turned and walked away. Yeah,

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01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: and then I tried to hit on her and she

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01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: didn't appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I bet she didn't. I bet you didn't.

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01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: But I just remember Cara Top showed up to the

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Speaker 1: media tent every single day and it'd be like, dude,

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Speaker 1: your face looks like it's melting and you smell like

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Speaker 1: bo and Johnny Walker, like what what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: That's another kid like you never get those Sorry to

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: just like fucking oh, chrisy Ebancscini is here, just like

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Speaker 2: milling around, you know, I feel like.

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Speaker 1: You do at the super Bowl, at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: go to topic number four, oscar if we can, Michael

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Speaker 1: Venim page had some interesting comments, so we're gonna take

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01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: a look at them here in just a moment. He

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01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: is facing Sam Patterson at the upcoming UFC London card

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: towards the end of March. I leave the twenty four

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: March memory serves now. He recently stated that he doesn't

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01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: understand the matchmaking and thinks he might have upset somewhat

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: important in the UFC. I want to ask you about it,

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: but first for context, here are his comments.

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 7: I definitely don't feel like I'm in good favor with

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 7: the UFC.

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01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: At the moment. Interesting.

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01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 8: What makes you say that just based off of who

1417
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 8: you just drew as an opponent?

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01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 7: Now, yeah, I think who drew as an opponent actually,

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01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 7: even down to when I saw the the fight card.

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01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 7: It's interesting because Leron Murfia, you know, massively deserves his position.

1421
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 7: He's been an apolete killing his free but then you

1422
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 7: look at like the Cole main event, and it's like

1423
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 7: you look at the whole card in general, and it's

1424
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 7: not the most exciting, and I would have felt that

1425
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 7: it's a name like myself being on that card. I'm

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 7: definitely going to be positioned as I'm always going to

1427
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 7: go on show always and maintain eyes that as I've

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01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 7: always done. But I'm being positioned on the cod in

1429
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 7: a weird way, and I've been given opponent which is

1430
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 7: a bit of a weird opponent as well.

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm just wanting to fight.

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 7: I don't really want to wait, so it's kind of like,

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01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 7: let's just let's just do it. But yeah, it just

1434
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 7: feels like I've upset somebody.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at the card here

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: very quickly. As you indicated as he indicator, I should

1437
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: say most are of Lloyd versus Larne Murphy one versus four.

1438
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: No one can argue that these guys don't deserve a

1439
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: big opportunity, whether this is the fight to make or

1440
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: whether each one deserves a title shot separate consideration, but

1441
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: certainly a very good fight deserving of a main events loot.

1442
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: Fair enough Luke Riley versus Michael as well, there's MVP

1443
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: Michael Page taking on Sam Patterson, Ewell Barnevski on how

1444
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: to say his name, He's Polish taking on Austin Lane,

1445
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: Roman de LEDs versus Christian Lroy Duck and Curtis Campbell

1446
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: taking on Danny Sill. By the way, Michael Page back

1447
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: at welterweight. Okay, ask a question for you is is

1448
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: he reading the situation correctly? And if so, why would

1449
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: UFC have an issue with Page given that he's generally

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: performed quite well for them.

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01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very weird one and he has a

1452
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: point right Like the comin event Luke Riley, I know

1453
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: someone they're hot on, like Luke Ridley is a very

1454
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: exciting fighter, but you would assume just a name value

1455
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: and honestly career achievements. MVP would probably get that spot.

1456
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's necessarily as easy as just like, oh,

1457
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: they're pissed off at him because uh, obviously they want

1458
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: him on that London card, and therefore it's like who

1459
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: can they get him against to be on that card.

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01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone's like even if they think

1461
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: they can beat him, as anyone like rushing to fight MVP,

1462
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: it's like a fucking, very annoying night at the office,

1463
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: even if you win, you know what I mean. So

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: I bet it's quite hard to book the guy against

1465
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: other fighters. So therefore maybe it's like we just couldn't

1466
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: get him anyone good, but we had to have him

1467
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: on the card. Not that Sam Patterson's not good, but

1468
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, maybe it's maybe a bit

1469
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: of that. But if if you look at his last

1470
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: few fights, like he came into the UFC Kevin Holland

1471
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: forty and Garry then shar a bullet, then Jared Kannoneer, like,

1472
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: it's a substantial drop off in terms of name valued

1473
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: opponents from this to Sam Patterson. And it does feel

1474
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: a little bit weird. And I know MVP has been

1475
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: quite outspoken that they weren't giving him fights at well

1476
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 2: to weight, that he was frustrated he had to go

1477
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: to middleweight, So you know, sometimes those comments do just

1478
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: strike a nerve and piss people off. But I don't

1479
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 2: know if that's what's happened here, but it does feel weird.

1480
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: I do think there should there should be some conversations

1481
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: internally with him and where he is, because it was

1482
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: not like he's shit either. He's on a two fight

1483
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: winning streak, so I don't really get it, and I

1484
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: understand his confusion. I don't know if it's because they're

1485
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: pissed off, but definitely it's like I don't know if

1486
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: I've seen anything quite like it in recent memory, Like,

1487
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: in terms of the way they're handling this guy's career.

1488
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: Do you think he went to middleweight because he couldn't

1489
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: get fights at walter Wait.

1490
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: At that he said they were not giveing fights at

1491
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: wel toweight, so he had to move up because he

1492
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: wanted to stay active twice so this.

1493
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: Is the only fight he could get by going back

1494
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: to welterweight.

1495
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: Seems like it. I don't know if he maybe I

1496
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: don't know if he out would he refused to do

1497
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: another middleweight fight. I know that when he fought his

1498
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: last fight against Kanoneer, he was frustrated that he was

1499
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: only getting midleweight fights and he didn't want to be

1500
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: in that division. He wanted to be at well to

1501
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: weight and he said that publicly. So I don't know

1502
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: if maybe this was a case of like, well, you

1503
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: don't want to middleweight, this is the world of weeight

1504
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: we have for you. I don't know if there's an

1505
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 2: element of that, but yeah, it's very strange. It's a

1506
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: bit weird.

1507
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to pull up the rankings here because

1508
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: I want to see, like, who at welterweight they would

1509
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: not match him up against here at the bottom of

1510
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 1: the You got Colby at fourteen, MVP sitting at fourteen.

1511
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: I don't think there's much interest in that, per se.

1512
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: You Rod at thirteen. He doesn't have a fight coming

1513
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: up that I'm aware of, Right.

1514
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: Well, I think isn't even like a Mexican prison. He

1515
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 2: might be fighting every day.

1516
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. You've got Jeff Neil at twelve

1517
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: and still right, still right, right, yeah exactly, Gilbert Burns

1518
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: at eleven, and then get Gabriel bond Theme at ten.

1519
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: The Sam Patterson one. I mean, could let me play

1520
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate? Could they be doing partly maybe a little

1521
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: bit of a Scott Coker thing where it's like, okay,

1522
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, we know you're three and one in

1523
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: the UFC, your only losses to Ian Gary, which you

1524
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: know Gary's pretty good turns out, But we want to

1525
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: kind of use you in a way that you can

1526
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: give us a viral moment. So we're going to just

1527
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: give you a guy that you should probably easily beat.

1528
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: And because if you consider all of his fights win

1529
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: or lose in the UFC, they're all decisions, this is

1530
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: maybe a good chance for him to do something kind

1531
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: of viral, get a funky knockout, use that unusual skill

1532
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: set to create something more memorable. Is that too charitable?

1533
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: A read?

1534
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: No, I did think about that too. Like it's as

1535
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: you said about the Scott Coker play, Like, look, fucking

1536
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,480
Speaker 2: all of MVP's career has basically been him against undermatched

1537
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: opponents that he can style on to create these viral moments,

1538
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: and they have not got that from him yet in

1539
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: the AFC. What's funny is actually I don't think Dania

1540
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: particularly likes those viral moments. Dana doesn't really like, you know,

1541
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: the start of the flashy style from some guys. So

1542
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: maybe I don't think that's the UFC's thinking, but I

1543
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: think in a silver lining, they probably have set him

1544
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: up for a moment that he can create and then

1545
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: make demands after. So I assume, you know, he's training properly,

1546
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: but he's in a position where, yeah, he's fighting a

1547
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: guy that you know, maybe he's not super excited about,

1548
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: but he should be excited about the opportunity to remind

1549
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: everyone why he was this viral sensation.

1550
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look up this guy. What do you

1551
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: know about his opponent?

1552
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: Well, according to long Island Luke. He's on a four

1553
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: fight win streak, all first round finishes, so I can

1554
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: And that's another thing as well, you know his last

1555
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: guys freeze against MVP. Certainly in the UFC they have

1556
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 2: done that, you know, like guy like Kevin Holland completely froze.

1557
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: Ian Gary got the win, but that was a weird

1558
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: little fight as well. Shara didn't quite know what to do.

1559
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 2: The Jared Cannoneer fighter was very forgettable really because Kadeer

1560
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: kind of didn't know what to do with him. So

1561
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: maybe as long Island Lucas put in the chat, they

1562
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: want someone who's going to aggressively go at MVP. So

1563
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 2: either way they get a good fight out of it,

1564
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: you know. And again like if someone comes in and

1565
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: knocks MVP out, that doesn't do Sam Patterson any danger either,

1566
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: you know, that gives him something to build on as well.

1567
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: So it's probably a win win for the UFC. I

1568
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: can understand MVP's frustration, but I think it would be

1569
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: good to see him in a great fight, you know,

1570
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: I don't it's not fun to see him in I

1571
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: love watching MVP fight, but sometimes he's sort of like

1572
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: a guy freezes doesn't give any openings because he's so

1573
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: concerned about defense, and then MVP kind of has to

1574
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 2: play like how do I get in here? And it

1575
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: kind of just sort of peeters out. I think it'd

1576
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 2: be better to see him in an actual contest where

1577
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: he that gets an opportunity to look amazing like we've

1578
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: seen him do before, or where like he puts himself

1579
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: a risk and the other guy gets to build the name.

1580
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: Or maybe they're building Sam Patterson to the point that

1581
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: you raise he does. He lost his UFC debut after

1582
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: winning on the Contender series. He lost to Yanal Ashmuz

1583
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: and UFC to eighty six in the first round. However,

1584
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: since then he's been on a path of destruction. He

1585
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: defeated to be a rear naked choke in the first

1586
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: round Johann leh Ness. He defeated Keith for Crosby in

1587
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: the first round via arm triangle. He stopped Danny Barlow

1588
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: in the first round with a with punches, and then

1589
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: he beat Trey Waters, who actually I did some tip

1590
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: study on him because he fought a guy named Jalen

1591
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: Fuller and I was doing some tip study on that

1592
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: for xFC. Anyway, Trey Waters. He beats him also in

1593
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: the first round. Is it maybe an argument that they're

1594
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: feeding MVP because they actually think that Patterson's got it

1595
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: some upside and they just want to make Patterson like

1596
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: they're feeding old too young to make the young look better.

1597
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there is. And like Sam Patterson's British

1598
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: as well, so maybe they're just like, take this new one.

1599
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: You know. It could be that. So yeah, i'd like

1600
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: I said, when win for the UFC, I'm sure the

1601
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: UFC are pretty I never really to MVP's point, I

1602
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: never really got the impression Dana was on the MVP train.

1603
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: I remember when he did a debut, he had the

1604
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: Undertaker theme, he dons his way to the ring. I

1605
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: never got the impression Dana was like super hyped on.

1606
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 2: I don't think Dan really likes his style or fighting either,

1607
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't surprise me if they were like, let's

1608
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: get a young guy to knock him out and then

1609
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: just sort of move on. You know. It's kind of weird.

1610
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,799
Speaker 2: It's it's a very it's interesting matchmaking, it's an interesting decision.

1611
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: It is very hard for me to understand how someone

1612
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: could be a lifelong combat sports fan and then hate

1613
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: flashy fighters.

1614
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? It's very individualism just

1615
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: at all.

1616
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's like I mean again, the flashy fighters

1617
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: who are super trolley can be very annoying, that's true,

1618
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: but they just generate lots of attention, you know what

1619
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean? Like like I didn't think Pokemon Go was interesting,

1620
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: but the Pokemon Go celebration that he did went megafucking viral,

1621
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, why why wouldn't you want that? I don't.

1622
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't. I've just never understood it.

1623
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: If everyone was doing it, for sure, that would be

1624
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: annoying as fuck. But when they come along once every

1625
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: four months or six months because they fight twice a year,

1626
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't see the I don't quite

1627
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: get the discussed with it either.

1628
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: You know, what do you think about what do you

1629
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: think Dana thinks of Josh Hokit who does the slightly

1630
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: more racist, worst version of chail Son and you know

1631
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: what I.

1632
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: Mean, significantly less uh well, I mean, like we asked

1633
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: him after the last one, Dana was asked like, oh,

1634
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: what do you think of Josh Hockety? He went to

1635
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: a good performance and what do you think of the character,

1636
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,520
Speaker 2: and he just paused and was like, I don't like it.

1637
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I'm not here. Yeah, I mean, what

1638
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: can you even say? That was one of the weirder

1639
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: postway press conferences when that guy came in and did like.

1640
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but the people on my sub

1641
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: stack were talking about it. I guess he did an

1642
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 1: interview with Ariel all in character.

1643
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, doing a Randy Savage impression. But you know we

1644
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: were talking earlier about like guys on camera versus guys

1645
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: off like Kolbe became the character right. There was a

1646
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: time where Kobe was like Eve turned up. When he

1647
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: was off camera, it turned down, but I could still

1648
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: see the consistency between the two men I was dealing with.

1649
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 2: This guy is literally like camerov, thanks so much, guy,

1650
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 2: It's so nice that it's like the it's yeah, I

1651
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: do not get it.

1652
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: I actually don't mind that he does the the the bits,

1653
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the skits and the bits,

1654
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: because I don't do well in the sense of here's

1655
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: the thing. I kind of appreciate people who take fighting seriously,

1656
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: but not the fight industry seriously. I do actually kind

1657
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: of appreciate that However, you just got to be good

1658
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: at it, you know what I mean, Like.

1659
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,440
Speaker 2: You actually care about the delivery. You can be transphobebic,

1660
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: just be funny.

1661
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: It's it's not even that I'm not even saying like

1662
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: like the I like the material either. I'm just simply

1663
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: pointing out, like, if you're going to take one of

1664
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: these kinds of I'm going to troll the industry bits,

1665
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be good at it. You gotta

1666
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: have something that really works. And to me, it just

1667
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: is like it's not funny enough to get people to

1668
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: like it, It's not edgy enough to get enough edge

1669
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: lords to sign off on it. It's just kind of

1670
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle of sucking, right. That's sort of

1671
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: the problem.

1672
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 2: The thing I've noticed about it. And you know, listen,

1673
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: maybe we don't understand gen Z and jen Alpha, but

1674
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 2: what I it's like all these aggregate accounts on Twitter

1675
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, these like they fucking love the guy.

1676
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: Like anytime he's like, oh like all these aggregate accounts

1677
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: between it and I just all constantly think like what

1678
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: am I missing here?

1679
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: Why if you're racist and stupid, it's a great time

1680
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: to be an MMA fan, it's a great time.

1681
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 2: It's never been a bad time if you've been racist,

1682
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: but it's been a great sport to you.

1683
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Okay, but it's really dialed up. Like

1684
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: if you did bad in school and you hate books

1685
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: and you're you've got an agree with worldview about racial minorities,

1686
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: and you're right, buddy, you walked into the mother load

1687
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: of the perfect time of MMA. Let me assure you

1688
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: all right. With that in mind, let's go to topic

1689
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: number five if we can. And this one was so dumb,

1690
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: but I had to put it in here. I had

1691
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: to put it in here because it's speaking of the

1692
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: things that are incredibly stupid. There was a recent social

1693
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: media spat oscar between well Joquing Buckley and Bud Crawford,

1694
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: although it was really about Jouquing Buckley and Shakoor, but

1695
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: kind of really it was about Shakoor and Ilia, and

1696
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: then Buckley got involved, and then Bud got involved, and

1697
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: it's this really weird thing. We're gonna play this clipper

1698
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: in a second to kind of unpack it, but here's

1699
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: basically the deal. Eventually, Aiden Ross, who is speaking of

1700
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: stupid racist streamers, was Hey had Shaquor and Bud in

1701
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: his house or whatever that was, and kind of indicated,

1702
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: like hey, Eliot to Portia he could come to boxing,

1703
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: and they were very very much against it. Joaquing Buckley

1704
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: comes out and then has a lot to say about it,

1705
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,799
Speaker 1: and then they responded to him. We've got a video

1706
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: that kind of ties it all together. I've got a

1707
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: question for you, but let's take a look at the context.

1708
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: First, cha cour Stevens.

1709
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 8: He was with Budd, right, he thought boxing was way

1710
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 8: more entertained, ain't it than the USC.

1711
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: Right, you'll see will never be better than at all.

1712
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 2: The skill of y'all.

1713
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 3: Boxers are so disrespectful.

1714
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 8: And I understand we don't get paid like y'all, we

1715
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 8: don't get money like y'all, but I tell you right now,

1716
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 8: we out work.

1717
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: Every single boxer.

1718
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 3: Should call im on you.

1719
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 8: Even though you beat Timo, all that trash that he

1720
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 8: was doing, he's saying nigga, he throwing bananas at you

1721
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 8: and all that type of stuff. Right, yeah, you beat him,

1722
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 8: but you should have knocked his ass out cold. But

1723
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 8: because you worried about your little record, you want to

1724
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 8: blame it or whether it's the art of box or

1725
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 8: you know, I just want to show.

1726
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 2: My jab all night.

1727
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: You will hoe you O.

1728
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 8: You ain't want to go out there and put on

1729
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 8: your best performed Stop disrespecting us, bro We are way

1730
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 8: more entertaining than they, and y'all try to say.

1731
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 2: No, y'all a real fights.

1732
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 8: How if we came outside, I could kill you. I'm

1733
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 8: not saying I want to kill you or want to

1734
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 8: take you off this earth, but realistically I would kill

1735
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 8: you if we fought hand in hand combat boxing. Y'all

1736
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 8: gotta quit, all right, y'all will get y'all asked well

1737
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 8: by somebody that is the USC fighter because I heard

1738
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 8: scur also say, oh hey, then let's fight.

1739
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: Then Toot's a poor Tell him.

1740
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: He's a crazy boxer. I don't care tell him.

1741
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 8: And I ain't gonna pick on the little dude because

1742
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 8: he's little. I get his big broo, But but no disrespect.

1743
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: You might be retired. I ain't asked you to fight

1744
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: you in an actual ring.

1745
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 3: But let's just work. Let's just work.

1746
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: Let me work with you, Brad. I got something approve

1747
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: to day.

1748
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: I got some of the prove to day.

1749
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 1: Okay. I love these debates because of the dumbest debates

1750
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: on Earth. Here is the question. The boxers focus on

1751
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: what would happen in boxing? MMA fans and fighters think

1752
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,440
Speaker 1: that this makes Buckley, or at least MMA look good.

1753
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: Who looks good out of this scenario?

1754
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 2: I will say Buckley does have a point. They are

1755
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 2: pretty disrespectful. They're really here boxes ever talk that complimentary

1756
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: of MMA fighters. I feel like so he has got

1757
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 2: a point there in terms of the I just like

1758
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 2: it's we've been having this boxer versus MMA guy on

1759
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: the street conversation for probably fifteen years. Has it ever happened?

1760
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: I would love to see it actually happen one day.

1761
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: Just a street fight between any boxer and MMA, like

1762
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 2: high level guy just never happens, So we go round

1763
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: around his circles. I also appreciate buck plea'se enthusiasm, but

1764
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't see Bud taking up that sparring invitation.

1765
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, like, can I tell you this, and this

1766
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: is what drives me nuts. Listen to what Shakur and

1767
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: Bud said. And what they said was you will see

1768
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: will never be more popular than boxing. Now I'm not

1769
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: sure that's true, but what they said after that was

1770
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: the skill level is different guys. I mean, I think

1771
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: there's a plenty of blame Oscar to go around in

1772
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: every direction, and I'm going to do that, But let

1773
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: me first start with this one, which is, guys, you

1774
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: MMA fighters can't even beat Jake Paul in box You

1775
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: can't get mad when high level boxers say the skill

1776
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: level is different. And I know what everyone's going to say, Well, yes,

1777
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: the striking level may be different, but they can do wrestling,

1778
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: they can do all these other things. And of course

1779
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: that is also true. I'll come back to that in

1780
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: just a second. But when you watch MMA fighters throw

1781
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: punches in boxing, doud it looks bad. It looks bad.

1782
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: They look bad. The skill level is significantly lower, not

1783
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: just from the average boxer, but from certainly a Bud

1784
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: Crawford or a schakor Stevenson. Like, dude, if you watch

1785
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot of this is true, you've ever done this

1786
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: Oscar where you watch for whatever reason, it's just happening

1787
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: this way. I've been times in like the last few

1788
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: years where I've watched a lot of boxing and then

1789
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: I'll go watch UFC and I'm like, oh my god.

1790
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah crazy as well, like not to throw anyone under

1791
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: the bus, but like Steep Aviochic, you know, the greatest

1792
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 2: heavyweight of all time is considered a fantastic boxer. And

1793
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: then if you go like watch Steep a throw a

1794
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 2: combination and watch Anthony Joshua for a combination, it's a

1795
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 2: different sport. It's like like Steve Bay is fucking still

1796
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: doing this, you know what I mean? Uh so, yeah, yeah,

1797
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: the skill it's just and it makes sense, right, I

1798
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: don't understand why, No, I can just acknowledge it makes sense.

1799
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: These guys do one thing since they're six years old.

1800
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: These guys do a lot of different things, probably when

1801
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: they were twenty and started. Of course they're gonna be better,

1802
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just very strange, and

1803
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: it's just it's always a shame that I guess it's

1804
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: the money and stuff that they chase it. But it's

1805
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: just like we always come back to this conversation and

1806
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 2: then like the MMA guy gets the moral high ground

1807
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 2: because it's like, yeah, well fucking I limited my weapons

1808
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

1809
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: Here here's the part for me, I think in this

1810
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 1: these spats they make everyone look weak. And the reason

1811
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: why it's pretty simple. Yes, it is true as you're

1812
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: just indicated on pure boxing terms like do you guys

1813
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: keep losing to Jake Paul? Like, how good could you

1814
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: possibly be? Right? I mean, let's just be honest about that. Now.

1815
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: Certainly the world roundedness, the wrestling, the jiu jitsu changes

1816
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: the equation. So here's what I mean, Oscar. The boxers

1817
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: look weak because obviously the MM fighters are right. If

1818
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: they had an more open combative rules set ninety nine

1819
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: times out of one hundred, if not more than that,

1820
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna get fucking smoked, and not just that beat

1821
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: very quickly. Like James Tony was not in his prime

1822
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: when he thought Randy Gator. I'm not sure how much

1823
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: of a difference it really would have made, you know.

1824
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: Kator also, for not for nothing, was not in his

1825
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: physical prime during that run either, and he beat the

1826
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: fucking dog shit out of him. So like, let's just

1827
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: be honest about that. The boxers look bad because the

1828
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: MMA fighters are right. On the other hand, on the

1829
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: other hand, the MMA fighters also look weak because Hello,

1830
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 1: a bunch of y'all are trying to chase a payday

1831
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: that is never gonna happen. But you don't make as

1832
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: much as them, and so there's this inadequacy that happens,

1833
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: and then not for nothing. When they critique the MMA

1834
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: fighters about the kind of weakness of their Techniquely says

1835
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: it relates to throwing punches. They're one hundred percent on

1836
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: the like. It's very weird that, rather than being like

1837
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: there's any kind of camaraderie about this, both battle in

1838
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: such a way as to magnify their own weaknesses through

1839
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: this whole thing. I didn't come away from this being

1840
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: like so and so got the upper hand. I walked

1841
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: away from this being like, y'all know all of y'all

1842
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: look bad here, right, y'all know.

1843
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: That I wonder if badminton and tennis players get into this,

1844
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: like fuck your racket sucks or whatever. You know what

1845
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't understand, like why boxing and MMA like these

1846
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: are two angry cousins that can never leave each other alone,

1847
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It's always like going on.

1848
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 2: It's always like every generation there's a new one. Bryan

1849
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 2: Garcierra Madley was a fucking thing for to him in

1850
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: its Connor Floyd obviously, and now this with Budd and

1851
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: Wocking Buckley, which is like a random mother that you

1852
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't seen coming, or to even Tuporia. Right, it's just

1853
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: like this conversation can never end. I mean respect to

1854
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: Clresta Shields. At least she got in there and tried it,

1855
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: but then we saw what happened to her. She was

1856
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: very washy in MMA, do you know what I mean? So, yeah,

1857
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: it's just we've seen it, guys, We've done it. Now

1858
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 2: we can all move on.

1859
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just it's just everyone is focused on winning

1860
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: a debate that the other side is not having with them. Right.

1861
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: The MMA side is having a debate about which style

1862
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: is better, and the boxing side is having a debate

1863
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: about refinement of technique, and then obviously the purses that

1864
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: they get, and they're just loop talking right past each

1865
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: other every single time. Drives me kind of crazy. All right,

1866
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: those are our five topics here for the day. Now,

1867
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 1: let's turn over the show to Long Island. Luke, who's

1868
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna put us through? By the way, I gotta say this,

1869
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 1: he showed us the intro to this new to this

1870
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: new segment he's doing. It's the best intro in MK history.

1871
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: Set us up here and take us through a long

1872
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: one I praise.

1873
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 3: All right, this is called combat couples. You guys are

1874
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 3: going to answer a question about a couple, and then

1875
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 3: I'll just show you something real late that all right,

1876
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 3: for folks out there, listen to this.

1877
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: This is fucking awesome.

1878
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: If one man go hold you out, and I will

1879
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: be damned if one man go hun down.

1880
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 3: The music is so good.

1881
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: And then it's a Valentine's Day special.

1882
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, don't let no man read you down.

1883
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 3: You know it's for all the strong women. What iol

1884
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: what is spool? We speaking of strong women? Luke, this

1885
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 3: one is for you.

1886
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: All right?

1887
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 3: T Sha Pennington and Roquel Pennington. Who has more professional

1888
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 3: mma wins?

1889
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: Raquel?

1890
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: That is correct, Luke, she has sixteen, Tisha has fifteen.

1891
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 3: But either way you're gonna get a little bit of

1892
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 3: a punishment here. Have you seen the new Netflix show

1893
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 3: called Free Bert?

1894
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 4: Bert Kreischer has his own Netflix show Now. Not only that, Luke,

1895
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 4: not only does he take his shirt off in it,

1896
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 4: the whole damn cast took their shirts off for it.

1897
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, where is a drive by shooter when you

1898
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: need one?

1899
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 4: Well, they look like they're on a plane, So like, really,

1900
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 4: where is a hijacker when you yeah?

1901
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 1: Where someone? I was gonna make a box cutter joke.

1902
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: I'll skip that one. But you know what I'm saying,

1903
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: somebody send this one crashing to the earth please.

1904
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 3: All right, Well, there you go.

1905
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1906
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 3: Next up for Oscar, we got Travis Brown and Honda Housy.

1907
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 3: Your question is, since Ronda's UFC debut in twenty thirteen,

1908
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: who has more wins in the UFC?

1909
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 2: Surely Ronda.

1910
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: That is correct as well, but it is close. Ronda

1911
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: has six Travis only had five in that span, which

1912
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 3: is actually kind of crazy, which brings me to my

1913
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 3: next point. Oscar. Ronda Rowsey just came out with a

1914
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 3: new book. Would you read it? Would I read it? Yeah?

1915
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 2: Nine?

1916
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 4: Wait, I don't know, dude. It's some fucking Ronda Rousey

1917
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 4: illustrated book. And you could see there's a quote from

1918
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 4: what she said on Burt Kreischer's bird Cast. This was

1919
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 4: the first time I really got to tell a story

1920
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 4: exactly how I wanted to tell it. And you can

1921
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 4: feel that on every single page, so you know, the

1922
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 4: burn Cast approves. I just wanted to know if Oscar

1923
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 4: would read it.

1924
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 2: I probably would skip the Ronda Rousey graphic novel. You know,

1925
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: I felt like I lived it. You know, it's it

1926
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: could only ever really pale in compassions the real thing.

1927
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 3: All right, that's hard.

1928
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 2: Does it have a segment where she guys on the

1929
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,719
Speaker 2: edit and cries and says she wanted to kill herself

1930
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 2: until she had Travis's babies? Or is that just we got?

1931
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 3: I think they illustrate that very well in it. Yeah,

1932
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 3: I saw something I saw paid. Yeah, yeah, eth she

1933
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 3: fucking went on.

1934
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: She went on all and after losing to Holly and

1935
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I feel suicidal, but then I

1936
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 2: look at my man and she was crying and she's

1937
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 2: that and I just know I have to live to

1938
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 2: have his babies. You're feminist here, ladies.

1939
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: That's not that's not especially healthy. But okay, LT for you.

1940
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 3: We got a little bit of a throuple, a love triangle,

1941
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. Brian or Taga, Tracy Cortez,

1942
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 3: Alex Poeton Pereira, who has fought more UFC champions or

1943
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 3: Tiga and Tracy combined or Poton?

1944
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Well that's a great question. Uh, I'm gonna say Tracy

1945
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 1: and Ortega combined.

1946
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 3: Oh that is incorrect, but it is close. Potons fought

1947
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 3: six UFC champions Tracy and Cortes combined four three for Ortega.

1948
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 4: He fought Frankiegar, Max Holloway or sorry, five combined for

1949
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 4: them if Frankiegar, Max Holloway, Volkanowski, Al, Jamaine Sterling, Tracy

1950
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 4: only fought Rose Poeton fought Sean Strickland, Iziatasanya, jan Blokhovic

1951
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 4: Chierri Prahaska, Jamal Hill and Magamed Uncle Elia.

1952
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,520
Speaker 3: Now lt I have to ask you. The entries are closed,

1953
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 3: but are you disappointed you did not get to enter

1954
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:28,440
Speaker 3: this concast?

1955
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: This is this is the Brian Campbell experience right here?

1956
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 3: Which signed up for it? If you knew?

1957
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: Gotta sign up? And BC would walk around with his

1958
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: pants around his ankles.

1959
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 3: Oscar, did you sign up for this?

1960
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 2: I've never thought underpaid as much as I do right

1961
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 2: now she has to go and like shake hands with

1962
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 2: sweaty dudes. JO, But yeah, I was there. She's a

1963
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: lovely lady.

1964
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, you won? All right, congrats, congrats

1965
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 3: you went to this.

1966
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 1: That I was like, what the fuck?

1967
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 2: ASRADI Golder, I can't get anywhere near awesome.

1968
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Next for you, we got mister and missus van Zant.

1969
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: So he looks like Michael Kisa a little bit in

1970
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: this picture.

1971
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 3: He looks weird in this picture. I'm i gonna say, uh,

1972
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 3: who started fighting professionally first, mister or missus?

1973
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 2: She was pretty fucking young. Eh, I'm gonna say page correct.

1974
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,839
Speaker 3: I thought that would be tricky because he is thirty

1975
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 3: five years old, but he started fighting professionally in twenty seventeen.

1976
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,440
Speaker 2: She didn't look different when she started. I feel like, yeah.

1977
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 3: She did, you know maybe yeah in the Yeah, okay,

1978
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 3: this is.

1979
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: Going to be news to me. She's doing power slap.

1980
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's done it twice. I did.

1981
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did it at least once.

1982
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: I know she win.

1983
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 3: Yes, the one I would say.

1984
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,520
Speaker 2: One of the decisions was a little bit generous.

1985
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 4: She's like the Luke Rockhold of women's combat sports now,

1986
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 4: where she's just doing every like random like she did misfits.

1987
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: Buck Yah, Rando show whatever.

1988
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 4: She'll do karate combat neck But both of you really,

1989
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 4: but Oscar, because this was prompted to you, Let me

1990
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 4: get a rating on all Vanderford's throat tatt Would you

1991
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 4: ever rock that?

1992
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 3: Can I get a one to ten? What are we

1993
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 3: thinking of that?

1994
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't rock it, but there would be a great

1995
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: opportunity to be laying with the lady and say, look

1996
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 2: at my third eye. And I don't mean the one

1997
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 2: between my legs, but yeah.

1998
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean the tattoo itself is not poorly done. But

1999
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, I think you know what's

2000
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: kind of funny. I uh, how do I explain this

2001
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: without getting myself in trouble. I'll just say this. I've

2002
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 1: met a lot of young people that their first tattoos

2003
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 1: now are throat tattoos, and I have to tell you, please,

2004
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: don't fucking do that now. This, this gentleman is more

2005
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,560
Speaker 1: obviously well tattooed, but as a gym rule, throat tattoos

2006
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 1: are very very hard to do well. The placement can

2007
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: be critical. I mean, it's just much more magnified any

2008
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: of the deficiencies in it. This one, to me is

2009
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: off putting because the eye is so distracting. It's not

2010
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: a poorly done tattoo, but the placement is just very weird.

2011
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: And I just want to caution everyone if you have

2012
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 1: if you have ten tattoos or less, you're not even

2013
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 1: close to being ready for a throat tattoo. Don't do it.

2014
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 1: They're overused and most come out quite bad.

2015
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 2: There's also a real risk for him when his skin

2016
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: starts to sag. It's gonna look like a vagina for sure, if.

2017
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't already. But I was gonna say or I

2018
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 1: was gonna I thought you were gonna say. Rather, I

2019
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it looks like the eye is gonna

2020
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: be like kind of sagging, and You're like, it's gonna

2021
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: be a vagiant and I'm like that right.

2022
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 4: Well, that's apparently Austin Vanderford gets a new tattoo after

2023
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 4: every fight. I'm not sure which fight was related to

2024
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 4: the throat tat, but I thought that was an interesting fact. Anyways,

2025
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 4: we move on to a PFL power couple, Dalton Rosta

2026
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 4: and Dakota Ditcheva.

2027
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 3: So lt who has more wins by decision?

2028
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Rasta, that is correct.

2029
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 3: He has six decision wins, Dakota with only two decision wins.

2030
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 3: She loves getting knockouts. Now we got to look at

2031
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 3: a happy photo of the couple at a Pittsburgh Steelers game. Luke,

2032
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 3: what do you think happened when they were at this game?

2033
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: Is this a trick question? They watched football? No?

2034
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 3: I mean, would you ever bring your loved ones to

2035
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 3: a football game.

2036
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh why would you ever go to it? Let me

2037
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: explain something to you and hard I'm not saying these people,

2038
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: but hardcore NFL fans are bigger pieces of shit than

2039
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: hardcore combat sports fans, boxing or MMA. Well, they're the biggest,

2040
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: biggest degenerates on earth. Never go to an NFL game ever,

2041
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,759
Speaker 1: if you can avoid it. Now, if you get box seats,

2042
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: maybe it's a little bit different. But like you're just

2043
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: sitting out there with the donks. I'd rather die than.

2044
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 4: Go to a They were sitting amongst the donks, and

2045
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,879
Speaker 4: this donk told Dakota that she wasn't that good at fighting,

2046
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,600
Speaker 4: and things got nasty. Here you see Dalton try and

2047
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 4: step in here. Oh oh, things are not going well

2048
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 4: for the Oh oh sorry Dakota.

2049
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, Oh yeah, dude, Oh dude, if you're

2050
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,799
Speaker 1: fighting all dude, he was fighting from the lower position

2051
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: and he won that. I know that's not Dalton Rosta.

2052
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 2: By the way, Uh, Jody grabbed the fucking head.

2053
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, fighting from the lower position and winning, that

2054
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: is a special kind of talent. Get this man at

2055
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 1: PFL contract immediately.

2056
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 3: Let's go let's go all right.

2057
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 4: Next up, Oscar for you, we got another thropple, JP, Bays, Cheyenne,

2058
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:39,799
Speaker 4: Vlismus and Roman.

2059
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 1: This is the segment for Brian Campbell whenever he comes back.

2060
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 3: You have to save this for him, all right. My

2061
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 3: question to you is who has won a fight more recently.

2062
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 3: We're leaving Roman out of this one. Cheyenne or JP?

2063
01:35:54,040 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: Oh my fuck, probably JP because she's been pregnant for

2064
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 2: my eight years.

2065
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:06,919
Speaker 4: I think it is actually Chyenne. She won most recently

2066
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one. JP as win listening at least

2067
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 4: three straight. I don't have it in front of me,

2068
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 4: but he last won a fight in twenty twenty. Unfortunately, Oscar,

2069
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're much of a snowboarder living

2070
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 4: out in Vegas, but do you think you could do

2071
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 4: better than Cheyenne on the mountain here?

2072
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 3: I mean, she just eats it, ends up on her

2073
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 3: knees again.

2074
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, anyways, Oscar, do you think he could do

2075
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 4: any better than her?

2076
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 2: Honestly, I've never skated, snowboarded, or skied. I've aly skateboarded

2077
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: once and broke my leg going down a hill, so

2078
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 2: it's never really been a fort head of mine. So

2079
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna say, even this performance, she probably has

2080
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: me beat there, all right? An right, would you end

2081
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 2: up on your knees as well?

2082
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2083
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 3: Maybe after a long time.

2084
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see for Chyanne any time.

2085
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, lt we got the santos is Tiago Andi Yana.

2086
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 3: So my question to.

2087
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 4: You who has fought more UFC ampions?

2088
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm gonna say Tiago, that is correct.

2089
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 4: He has fought five jan Belhovich, John Jones, Glover to

2090
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 4: share at Maga, mat Unclelive.

2091
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 3: And Jamal Hill. But to her credit, Yanna has fought

2092
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,520
Speaker 3: Mesha Tate, Hollyholm and Chris Cyboord.

2093
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: Uh luke.

2094
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with the couple. But you know,

2095
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 3: maybe tomorrow Valentine's Day, you're gonna eat some cake. Why

2096
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 3: not from the cake lady, Let's fucking.

2097
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: Go, fucking dumb bitch, look at the Oh yeah, I

2098
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: just eat the shoes. Look at this fucking billy goat

2099
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: ass weirdo who just can't do Yeah, of course why

2100
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: would you? Oh yeah, I just eat the car, you

2101
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: fucking skank. I mean, just the worst person on earth,

2102
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: eating eating, eating electronics and plastic and I hope you

2103
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 1: get enough microplastics to poison your entire bloodline. You absolute weirdo.

2104
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,879
Speaker 1: How about that? Right?

2105
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 2: So you don't have found visit cake?

2106
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: I like, is it cake? When they're like, oh, is

2107
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: it cake? Or is it not?

2108
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 3: Not?

2109
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 1: When they're like, oh, watch me eat this boom box?

2110
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 3: Intriguing? I gotta be honest.

2111
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 4: Anyways, Oscar next up for you, we got the they're

2112
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 4: now broken up, but you know once once a power couple,

2113
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 4: Mackenzie Dern and Antonio Tricoli. So my question to you

2114
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 4: is who has more professional MMA wins?

2115
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 2: Probably Mackenzie.

2116
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 3: I would have thought you would have thought correct, She

2117
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 3: has sixteen professional MMA wins.

2118
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 4: Tracoli with only twelve. I was hoping maybe I could

2119
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 4: trick you and you'd be like, h that. You know,

2120
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 4: maybe he's got a bunch of regional wins.

2121
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 2: We believe how fucking many I'm getting right today? I

2122
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Speaker 2: never do this well on your fucking quiz.

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01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, well neither.

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01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 3: Luckily there's no points on the line today, but we

2125
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 3: got to show you Mackenzie at the Chargers game.

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Speaker 9: Now again, would you use the Brian Campbell list. I'm

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01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 9: not saying I'm not saying she was there with a

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01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 9: loved one. But would you ever go Oscar? Would you

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01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 9: ever go to an NFL game?

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Speaker 3: That is my question?

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01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:05,759
Speaker 2: He uh, fucking very expensive, you guys, and very long,

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01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 2: so probably not to be honest, Dame. No, I went

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01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 2: to a UNLV game at the Radious Stadium, but I've

2134
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 2: never been to Raiders. I'd go if there was a

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01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 2: box some freebige. Fuck.

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01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,839
Speaker 1: Would you go to an un l V game.

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01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 2: Free tickets and there was a box with free page.

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01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 1: In that case, I would go to Yeah, that.

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01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 2: Was just but uh yeah, no, I've never been to

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01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: an NFL game. Would I go with McKenzie?

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01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 3: Dad?

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01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 2: Sure, I would go creep her out?

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01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 4: Well, if you did go with her, you'd have to

2144
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 4: deal with ship like this fans saying that way Lee

2145
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 4: is actually the real champ. That's what this person yelled

2146
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 4: at this man. They were like, Wayley is the real

2147
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 4: straweight champ. He said, what, there's McKenzie right there. You

2148
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 4: can see the back of her head as she stands up,

2149
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 4: and you know this man is just the right end.

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01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 4: He's end here, He's what And then they're like way Lee, bitch?

2151
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 4: And then look they get this man down and.

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01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 3: All just there, Lu, I'm a Verna fan, and they're like,

2153
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 3: oh shit. And then the Tatiana's crew is that did

2154
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 3: the ship just got out of hand? It was going wild?

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01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: Why would you ever go to an NFL game? Look

2156
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,560
Speaker 1: at these fucking creatures.

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01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 4: You gotta be prepared to defend to the death. All right, LT,

2158
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,879
Speaker 4: we got our last thrupple for you. It is Brian Caraway,

2159
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 4: Misha Tate, and Johnny NOONEZ. So my question to you is,

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01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 4: who is the only one that has.

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Speaker 3: Never been knocked out? Not knocked up, knocked out?

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01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm not so. I had dinner one time with Johnny

2163
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: and Misha when they were working at Serious Exam and

2164
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: they were very friendly.

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01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they aren't, Chinney.

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01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,799
Speaker 1: Who's the only one who has not been knocked out? Correct?

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01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 1: Has Misha Tate never been? Oh she got stopped? Yeah

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01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: she got stopped. What does TKO count?

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01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: TKO counts.

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01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So no, you can't count Misha. I'll go Johnny.

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01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not, but I'm not super familiar with

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01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 1: his career.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, Well, you are correct. Being not familiar

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01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 3: worked out for you.

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01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 4: Brian Kiraway and Misha Tate both been Kotko twice, Johnny

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01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 4: never been Tko.

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Speaker 3: Luke, this one's a little bit of a friendlier one

2179
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,679
Speaker 3: for you. This isn't a tattoo, It is just a drawing.

2180
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 3: But rate this drawing of Misha Tate as some sort

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01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 3: of superhero.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 3: She posted this on her Instagram?

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01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Is this the most recent Brian Campbell painting that he had?

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01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 3: This was like her most recent Instagram post. I didn't

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01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 3: have to search far for it, so it's great.

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01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a bad drawing, it's just the

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01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: person who did it is clearly a horny pro wrestling fan.

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01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: Oh maybe maybe a comic book reader, you know.

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01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. All right, well, what are we writting it?

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01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 3: One to ten?

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01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: I'll give it a seven?

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01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 2: Of the fields now graphic novels.

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01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 3: You know, Oscar, Are you more likely to get this

2195
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,679
Speaker 3: tattooed somewhere on your body or the throat tat eye tattoo?

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01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 2: Fuck h, I would probably get the eye tattooed, not

2197
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 2: but I would, mat Can you imagine.

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01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 3: I could very much.

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01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 4: I could imagine you pulling up your leg right now

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01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 4: and being like, I actually do have a Misha tattoo?

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01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 10: I've got my own face tattooed on my leg. I'm

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01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 10: not exactly that's why. That's why I wouldn't shock me.

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01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 10: But anyways, last one for you, Oscar. We got Pat

2204
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,799
Speaker 10: Barry and Rose Noma Yunis.

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01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 3: Your question is who has more professional MMA losses.

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01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 2: I'll say Pat, that's don't know how many he actually

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01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 2: Rose eight.

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01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 3: Pat has seven, although I think Pat's record is like

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Speaker 3: eight and seven, so you know he's pretty close. But

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01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 3: either way, Oscar, you know you went kind of viral

2211
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 3: last week by incorrectly or two weeks ago, incorrectly guessing

2212
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 3: the sex of Arnold Allen's cat. You know it was

2213
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 3: probably an embarrassing moment for you, so I I wanted

2214
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 3: to give you a little bit of a redemption here.

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01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 3: Can you guess the sex of Roses dog?

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01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like looking into a mirror. Uh I'm assuming

2217
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 2: that I'm not fucking actually con it's.

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01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 4: Pretty hard despite it presenting to you. Uh him know what,

2219
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 4: let me make it a little easier. Can you guess

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01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 4: the sex of Izzy's dog?

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01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.

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01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 3: This is see you next tide.

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01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 2: Okay, that's how you get out.

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01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: Fuck oh all right, time now for the last part

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01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: of the show. We don't do these every weeken anymore,

2226
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 1: but we're still definitely gonna do them always. You can

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01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: reach the show Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Morningcombat at

2228
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. It's where you can contact the show,

2229
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 1: but definitely for your fan subs. Let's get to it.

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01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 1: Let's do we still have the animation.

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01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 3: You've got mail future.

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01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 1: All right, This comes to us from Rajiev. We have

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Speaker 1: four photos. This was submitted right before BC's last show

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01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: at early January. Hey, fellas, just wanted to say thank

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01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: you to b c LT and the production team for

2236
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: the last several years of MK in its current iteration.

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01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 1: You guys always put me in a good mood after

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01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 1: a crazy day at work. We're just generally the stress

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01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: of life. BC. You're gonna kill it with CBS. Praying

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Speaker 1: for you and your famili's continued success. I hope you

2241
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: can still get goofy every now and then in the

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01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: suit and tie to the two lukes. That's me and

2243
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 1: Long Island. You already know it's MK all day, every day.

2244
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: Don't forget. I already recruited Yowana to replace BC. Yeah,

2245
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 1: this was the h This was that show. We did

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01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: in Vegas where I got drunk on air. It was great?

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01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 2: Was that lake?

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01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 1: So that was the third Volkanovski and Holloway fight. So

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01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three, twenty two, I.

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Speaker 2: Think three years of not being kind to you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh, that's a nice picture. I wouldn't

2252
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: say I've aged much too too badly from this one,

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01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: but yes, it's certainly not been great. Big shouts to Rejieve.

2254
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, we'll make sure BC sees this. I'll make

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01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: sure we send it to him so he can get

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01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 1: a look at it. All right, let's go to Spence.

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01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 1: He just says, hey, guys, big fan, love the show.

2258
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: What do we have here? From Spence? All right, here's

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01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 1: a meme when you're driving home knowing there won't be

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01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,719
Speaker 1: a second date. But at least she knows that UFC

2261
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: two thirty six kicked off the ESPN era. This is

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01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: going back to what event kicked off the ESPN era,

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01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: which you know two thirty six was technically that one,

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01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: I believe, But you know, what are you gonna do?

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01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: All right? We have two more. Let's see Oscar Willis

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01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 1: making the stripper watch his fight in the private room.

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01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: This is when Oscar told us he made a stripper watch.

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01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: Which fight was it that you had?

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01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:55,640
Speaker 2: That you made her watch that she got okay to

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01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 2: watch Lucky Lady.

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01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, shot where you're in the strip club and Oscar

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01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 1: Willis walks in because they know they're about to get

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01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 1: fucking bay bag.

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01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 2: Shout out Izzy by the way, commenting on that being like, yeah,

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01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 2: I was there.

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01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I did see that. I did see that. That

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01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: was great. That was great. All right. This is from

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01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 1: our friend at J. Piquette of Mountain Unike. Here we go,

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01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 1: Good day, MK Nation. Just want to share some cool

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01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: merch pictures from Bangkok, Thailand at the Rajah dom Nern Stadium.

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01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 1: This is one of the two most important stadiums in

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01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: the entirety of Muytai kickboxing. Boss Lady and I went

2283
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 1: to see some pro championship muay Thai kickboxing as lifetime

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01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 1: fight fans. What an amazing night of entertainment. Originally constructed

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01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 1: in the nineteen forties, this historic venue is often referred

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01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: to as the birthplace of professional muy Thai and is

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01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: the oldest kickboxing stadium in the world. Bucket List moment

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01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,759
Speaker 1: for sure. Keep up the great work. Hope all as well.

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01:46:55,400 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: JP and Dawn the Boss Lady a great photos. Loompini

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01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 1: is the other stadium. The two big ones would be

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01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: Roja Dominran and then Loompini. As you can see, he's

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01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 1: wearing the MK stuff Oscar. Have you ever been to

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01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: Roja Dominan Stadium or Loompini?

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01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,799
Speaker 2: I have not. This in Thailand. I've never been to Thailand.

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01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:14,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is in Thailand.

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01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 2: I'm desperate to go for reasons you can probably imagine,

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01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 2: but yeah, no, I've never been.

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01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 3: It's my bucalist What Asian countries?

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01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: Have you been to?

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01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 2: Singapore which sort of is like Asia for beginners? And Bali,

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01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 2: which is most of the Australians and British people getting drunk.

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01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 2: I think that might be it.

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01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 1: That's it.

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01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to go to Japan and like, I'd

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01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 2: love to go to all of them really, but yeah,

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01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 2: I have not been taken out that way. Maybe if

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01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 2: they did, like if the US he did another return

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01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 2: to Japan, I'd be all over that. I've been desperate

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01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 2: for them to go to Thailand, but I guess they

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01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 2: just never will.

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01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Say Yeah, I hear Bangkok is the Toronto of of Asia.

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01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Very good We appreciate you guys. Jay great pictures, and

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01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 1: I'm jealous that you guys got to go. All right,

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01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 1: this is from Saoul due to the How cold is

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01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: it in Vegas right now? What's the weather?

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01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't know your fucking fahrenheit? Let me just see

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01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 2: one second.

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Speaker 1: It's been. It's been the coldest winter here.

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01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 2: It's in Vegas right now.

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01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 1: I would kill a man for sixty one it's been, dude.

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01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 1: It's been in the teens here for weeks, sub zero,

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01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 1: sub zero for celsius for weeks.

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01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 3: It didn't warm up the last two days, Luke. Last

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01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 3: two days me have been like mid thirties forty.

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01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been better the last couple of days. But dude,

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Speaker 1: it's still like a shitload of snow that's just sitting

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01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 1: out there on street. Yes, dude, so it's it didn't

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01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: snow that much in DC. It's not about five six

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01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: inches or whatever. But then it's sleeted off the top

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Speaker 1: of it. Okay, hold on, right, But then it's sleeated

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01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: on top of it another two inches or so, and

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01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,839
Speaker 1: then it didn't like warm up. Later it got colder

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01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 1: and colder and colder. So the entire thing froze. So

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Speaker 1: for weeks now the snow has not gone anywhere. They've

2335
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: had to kind of move it just the side, so

2336
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,919
Speaker 1: like it's hard to park, it's hard to walk anywhere.

2337
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 1: It's been a fucking nightmare.

2338
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 2: I've been very Snow's always one of those things that

2339
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, it's snowing, and then ten

2340
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 2: minutes stay two like ah fuck, it's snunning.

2341
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 1: Great for one time to take my daughter's sledding, we'll

2342
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 1: go do that, and then after that it's a fucking pain.

2343
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: All right, here's from Sawool. Due to the winter storm,

2344
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 1: I've not been able to change people's gutters safely. Well.

2345
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: The wife put me to work and had me help

2346
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 1: her make a bunch of cheeseboards for her business, and

2347
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,640
Speaker 1: took me out to get mid tier Mexican afterwards for

2348
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: a job well done. Look at this, gentleman, Oh my god,

2349
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 1: it's a big ass beer with a lime wedge in it.

2350
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 1: Later that night was date night and we went and

2351
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 1: saw the Grammy Award winning Louisville Orchestra do a bunch

2352
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: of Dolly Parton songs. That sounds pretty fun. Afterwards, we

2353
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: went and got drinks and I ran into the very

2354
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: peculiar bathroom MK all day. This man reps MK so hard.

2355
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 1: There's Muhammad Ali. I guess doing a bunch of weird

2356
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 1: ass Andy Warhol esque pose it. I'm not so sure,

2357
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 1: but he's got the MK hat on, he's got the

2358
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 1: MK jacket on. I'm guessing he's got an MK shirt on.

2359
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: Show me some of these other photos here because I

2360
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to there we go. Yep, yeah,

2361
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 1: look at that. He's got the one from last month,

2362
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: the January Stranger danger. Oh look at dude. I gotta

2363
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 1: tell you Oscar mid tier Mexican food. It might. I

2364
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 1: don't know if there's anything better, if I can just

2365
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: be honest with you.

2366
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, especially if you have a couple of those

2367
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 2: sized beers as well.

2368
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 1: What is your go to order at a place like that.

2369
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm very very Caucasian, so as you can imagine, it's

2370
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 2: a very spiceless, flavorless thing being from Britain, but it

2371
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 2: would be a case of or a lovely burrito. I

2372
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 2: thank you? What about you? I love carn eatis that's

2373
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 2: my fucking That's the one I go for.

2374
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 1: Do you hate like spicy food?

2375
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 2: Corn? Ad lit? At Tabasco is hot for me.

2376
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: Bro I've got I'm not kidding in my kitchen right now.

2377
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: I've got maybe twenty or thirty bottles of different kinds

2378
01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 1: of hot sauce. Not even a joke.

2379
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 2: British took over the world for seasoning and spice and

2380
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 2: used none of it.

2381
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So so do you eat Indian food in

2382
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 1: London spicy? Yeah? Yeah? Right, So this is kind of funny.

2383
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: It's like for so, for example, like people don't realize this,

2384
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 1: or maybe maybe some people do, but like, just as

2385
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 1: a general background, uh, the Iranians do not eat very

2386
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: spicy food, right. They eat it's very tasty, but they

2387
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: don't There's no heat to it per se. Whereas in

2388
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: other cuisines that might be nearby Indian or in certain

2389
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:35,839
Speaker 1: cases some Arabic food, you can definitely get some spice. Mexico,

2390
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: for example, has very very very spicy food. They have

2391
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: spicy candy that they give kids. But in Columbia, for example,

2392
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 1: they don't do anything spicy hardly at all. They'll they'll

2393
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: tell you that they do with something called aki, but

2394
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: trust me, they don't. They don't really do anything spicy.

2395
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 1: I bring us all up to say, well, I forgot

2396
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 1: what I was going with this. I was just sucking on.

2397
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 2: Anyway.

2398
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 1: I just I just, oh, here's what I was going

2399
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:02,600
Speaker 1: to say. So I'll try and order Indian food with

2400
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:04,640
Speaker 1: my wife and she can have like the occasional like

2401
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: tandori or butter chicken, you know, but she won't eat it.

2402
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 1: And so I don't think, as like a person to person,

2403
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: she's racist. But I accused Brian Campbell of this, and

2404
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 1: I'm now going to accuse you of this. You're a

2405
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 1: food racist. I'm you're food racist.

2406
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: I'm a food racist. It's true. I can't it not.

2407
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm a food racist. Very very very very basic palette.

2408
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 2: I did actually the ironically, I did you know the

2409
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,799
Speaker 2: hot ones. I did get the bomb like they're.

2410
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 1: Very very hot, which is very hot.

2411
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,799
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's also just fucking shit like horrible.

2412
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: But I didn't taste good at all, right.

2413
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 2: And that was five minutes are just not fun.

2414
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 1: I have I get every new season, I get the

2415
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: full pack, and I can have the hottest one, no problem.

2416
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 2: I would struggle with that. I've struggled another three.

2417
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: I fucking love spicy food. I love it so much.

2418
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,639
Speaker 1: All right, this is from and big big shouts to sell. Well, great,

2419
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: don let's go to Maximiliano. He's got a video here

2420
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 1: for us about what I said to Shopcock for three

2421
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 1: and this one I take no pleasure in having a

2422
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 1: conversation about, but I do think it's actually important to do,

2423
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 1: namely the future of Shopcock rock Monocks. Here we got

2424
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: a guy that I have pegged for a long time,

2425
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 1: long time.

2426
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 3: Whoa no wonder he's out. Take it easy on him. Man,

2427
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:26,879
Speaker 3: Holy hag Luke you nasty.

2428
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh oh that.

2429
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: Is fucking awesome. I didn't even realize I did that.

2430
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: That is so fucking funny. Oh that's great, well done.

2431
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: We'll play we'll play it all right. And last, but

2432
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 1: certainly not least, we have one we got we got

2433
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,879
Speaker 1: a very diverse group here. We got one from Zaheti

2434
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,679
Speaker 1: Zahiti Sahei. Every middle aged man.

2435
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 3: Posting a selfie, it's not bad, but I either.

2436
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: So I have to post a photos. I have to

2437
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: post a photo on my YouTube channel on Wednesdays because

2438
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm soliciting questions that I can then read for the

2439
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,680
Speaker 1: live channel on Thursday. And I hadn't put one. I

2440
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 1: usually put it up in the morning and for some

2441
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: reason this week, I completely forgot. And then I was

2442
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 1: at I was at Costco and I had to go

2443
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 1: get my resupply of sleep medicine. And you know how

2444
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: it goes. You go to refilled and they're like, come

2445
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 1: back in fifteen twenty minutes. So I'm just like, you know,

2446
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: mulling around a Costco. And then I went to the

2447
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 1: furniture section and I was sitting there and I was like,

2448
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 1: oh fuck, I completely forgot, and I was like, you

2449
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna take a dad selfie. Took one,

2450
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 1: and like all the comments were like one of them was,

2451
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 1: this looks like the profile of a trucker's This looks

2452
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 1: like a trucker's profile on hinge, you know what I mean. Yeah,

2453
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: so they all got me with the dad jokes.

2454
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 3: It's true.

2455
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: I can't deny who I am. I can't delle know

2456
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: who I am.

2457
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 2: There'd be lots of American flags in the bio. I

2458
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 2: can see it right now.

2459
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go catch some fish here at the

2460
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: bait shop. You know, just keep on trucking, all right, Oscar?

2461
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 1: Why don't you plug your stuff? Where can folks get

2462
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: more of what you produce?

2463
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 2: I am going to Houston next week to watch Sean

2464
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 2: Strickland talk about Ice and Apstein and all the rest

2465
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 2: of that shit, probably at media day, and then I

2466
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 2: will be there all week for the fights and then

2467
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 2: just cruise along on the Mac life, YouTube, my socials,

2468
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 2: all the rest of them, the usual places.

2469
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: How do you think that's going to go next week?

2470
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: What's your early feeling.

2471
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 2: On the fight itself? Yeah, I think I heard you

2472
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 2: do a good breakdown on Submission Radio, But basically you'll

2473
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 2: probably know after the first or second round. Like the

2474
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 2: first round, I think if Sean can keep him off

2475
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 2: and get his game going, you know, he's a very

2476
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 2: fucking tricky dude to be like, He's really really a

2477
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 2: tricky guided to do well against if you haven't fulled

2478
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 2: that star before. But I do feel like Fluffy's very

2479
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 2: relentless in the pursuit of grappling, and I think to

2480
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 2: beat Sean you kind of have to be like, you know,

2481
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 2: drinks topless. He just fucking like forward motion constantly, just

2482
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 2: really taking it to him, and then he sort of

2483
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 2: struggles to get that that range going. So and also,

2484
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, we don't really know what Sean is. He

2485
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 2: seems very vitalized. I definitely feel like his fighting when

2486
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 2: he lost to the DDP, he seemed like completely uninterested,

2487
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 2: So maybe he's a bit more fired up. He wanted

2488
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 2: this fight, So I'm leaning towards Fluffy just like having

2489
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 2: the pressure game work for him, But it wouldn't surprise me.

2490
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 1: Sure do you think if Strickland stops him? He leaped

2491
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: frogsy mav Off one thousand.

2492
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't even think he has to stop him. I

2493
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 2: think really just even because Hams and him have that

2494
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 2: little beef, and I just think, and as you said yourself,

2495
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 2: they are desperate for Americans right now, do you know

2496
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 2: what I mean? Although I don't know if they would

2497
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 2: love to put Sean on the White House? I think that.

2498
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, what do you think now now, not the

2499
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 1: fight itself, but the Ice, the Epstein files. Do you

2500
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 1: think his media day is going to be fucking insane?

2501
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2502
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 3: For sure?

2503
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like I mean, he's he's definitely I'll tell

2504
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 2: you give the list and we'll see how many he's

2505
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 2: going to talk about. Epstein's going to talk about Ice,

2506
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 2: going to talk about immigration, It's going to talk about

2507
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 2: gun control and tech. He's going to talk about Bluffy

2508
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 2: Hernandez being you know North American, right, he's going to

2509
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 2: talk about yes, you know, the fucking's the usual trans

2510
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 2: you'll probably get a mention. Gays will definitely get a mention.

2511
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: All the classics.

2512
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll play the hits for sure. All right. Well,

2513
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 1: if you want more of OSCARS coverage, you can check

2514
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 1: it out there. Of course, if you want more of

2515
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Speaker 1: our socials there they go below on the screen. Morning

2516
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 1: Combat is everywhere. You can catch me on the various

2517
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Speaker 1: platforms and of course oscar s willis on IG and X.

2518
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Speaker 1: Don't forget Morningcombat dot shop. We've got the Army of

2519
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Speaker 1: Darkness shirts plus the Evergreen ones. I didn't mention that before,

2520
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Speaker 1: but of course we do have the two Evergreen shirts.

2521
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: We've got the one, the MKDC one as well as

2522
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 1: the graffiti logo on top of it. To reach the show,

2523
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 1: you can go to Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Please

2524
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 1: send the fans ubs really appreciate them today. From Zahiti,

2525
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 1: from Maximiliano, from Seoul, from Jpiquett, from Spence as well

2526
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 1: as Regie. Great job, guys, really appreciate that good stuff,

2527
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 1: and for all the rest of you, thank you so

2528
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 1: much for watching here on this Friday. We really appreciate it.

2529
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 1: I'll be back with Chuck on Monday to get you

2530
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 1: ready for the week ahead. So for Long Island, Luke

2531
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: and everyone else on the show that's Oscar Willis. I'm

2532
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. Thank you all so much for watching it.

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01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: Until next time and all of your gains, be loyal.