Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three oh one,
Speaker 1: Episode four of I Guys Say, production of iHeartRadio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into.
Speaker 2: America shared consciousness.
Speaker 1: And it's Friday, August twenty fifth, twenty twenty three. Happy birthday,
Speaker 1: Eve to.
Speaker 2: My sister Shannon.
Speaker 1: Oh you thought it was my other sister already, Eve,
Speaker 1: like the singer Oh, happy birthday to Eve as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a one in three hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five chance that Eve, it's Eve's birthday.
Speaker 2: I thought you were afraid of the original woman.
Speaker 1: Also entirely possible. You know, it definitely looks a little
Speaker 1: muggy in the garden of Eden, a little sunny, so
Speaker 1: we don't know.
Speaker 2: You know that I'm a fund medalist Christian. I should have.
Speaker 1: Mentioned that we're going to get into it.
Speaker 2: Mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, we've completely on your intro and yes.
Speaker 1: This is guys, this is off format. And the thing
Speaker 1: that people come here for is to hear me say
Speaker 1: the exact same words for the first minute and a half.
Speaker 1: They're uncomfortable if they don't hear That has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with my comfort level than me needing to robotically
Speaker 1: recite everything before I uh, before I bring anyone else.
Speaker 1: And anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien,
Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special
Speaker 1: guest co host who you've already heard from. It's an
Speaker 1: award winning podcast host, writer, producer, actor. You know from
Speaker 1: Grand Crew How I Met your father? Uh from guest
Speaker 1: hosting this podcast frequently it's Jack easneya.
Speaker 4: Ja job, job job jo Keys not tell me what
Speaker 4: you're going and Dode, I can't come for you what
Speaker 4: you're going to do. And I'm gonna miss everybody. It's
Speaker 4: like it's for every about it.
Speaker 3: Oh what up? Negross, we are back. Daddy Jack is bad.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen you in a minute, Jack.
Speaker 1: Man, It's so wild. I was just singing that song
Speaker 1: on this show like two days ago. I missed my
Speaker 1: uncle Charles, y'all, I.
Speaker 3: Do miss my uncle Charles. I got Charles.
Speaker 1: That was probably the most I ever ruined a song
Speaker 1: like for myself. I just I listened to the single
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again for like
Speaker 1: a month straight.
Speaker 3: And I also that video scared the ship out of
Speaker 3: me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when that when they when dude's eyes turned black.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, angel comes through and just
Speaker 1: turns your whole eyes black, turned your whole eyes black.
Speaker 5: I grew up on the South Side of Chicago. Gun violence,
Speaker 5: gang violence. Nothing scared me until I see a dude's
Speaker 5: eyes turn black in the music video.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm scared now, baby.
Speaker 1: Like a doll's eyes. Yeah. Well, Jacquiese, we are thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined in our third seat by another person
Speaker 1: you've already heard from, a very funny comedian improviser who's
Speaker 1: special spiritually filthy dropped earlier this year. It's very funny.
Speaker 1: It's more burn.
Speaker 2: Dude. Thank you for having me. Guys, i' psyched to
Speaker 2: be here. We're psyched to have you, ma'am.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about Jesus real quick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, our one and only Lord and Savior? You mean, yes,
Speaker 2: thank you?
Speaker 1: What's good man? Where are you coming from?
Speaker 2: Los Angeles?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all in LA.
Speaker 3: All in LA.
Speaker 5: We all survived the hurriquake. Yeah, I'm absolutely over hyped.
Speaker 3: Hurricane they came through LA. Is that bad to say?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I think that's accurate. I mean, I'm from Missouri, where
Speaker 2: it's like there's just tornadoes and torrential right, like we're
Speaker 2: used to clement weather, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say I felt more wind
Speaker 5: on a normal summer day in Chicago.
Speaker 2: What we got, dude. I lived in Chicago for seven
Speaker 2: years and my friend likes to remind me of the
Speaker 2: time that it was colder in Chicago than on the Moon.
Speaker 2: That was like a real that's a thing that happened, bro.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: When I first moved to la in twenty twelve was
Speaker 5: the year of a polar vortex, and I went back
Speaker 5: for the winter and it was so cold because you know,
Speaker 5: Chicago got that wind chield. I know, Jack, know about
Speaker 5: that windshield. Chicago got that wind shield, and the wind
Speaker 5: chield made Chicago so cold that at the zoos in Chicago,
Speaker 5: they had to take the polar bears inside because it
Speaker 5: was too.
Speaker 3: Cold for them outside.
Speaker 5: I was like this, and then that's when I decided,
Speaker 5: like why would I ever come back here? Like this
Speaker 5: is a mental illness to live in this city during
Speaker 5: the winter. I should have lived a place where I
Speaker 5: can walk in the house, stick my head in a
Speaker 5: freezer and warm up.
Speaker 3: Like that's Chicago. Yeah, that's it's insane, but I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that story and that moon story are both
Speaker 1: such great. It's like they have some really like talented
Speaker 1: like novelists who's like writing for their local news, who's
Speaker 1: just like, how do I convey how fucking cold?
Speaker 2: He's acting like it's fine. That's the thing, like everybody's.
Speaker 2: It's like the domestic violence relationship where you're like, it's actually,
Speaker 2: there's four days in a fall. Where's he's amazing beautiful?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Right, and it is, oh man, the spring, the summer
Speaker 1: in Chicago.
Speaker 3: Ye spring, understand why you understand? That's right, you understand.
Speaker 1: I lived in Missouri for like two and a half years,
Speaker 1: and I remember there being one time when the sky
Speaker 1: was like the only thing I could describe it as
Speaker 1: is like go the end of Ghostbusters, when when the
Speaker 1: sky is like circling over that building. It was just
Speaker 1: like I don't know if it was a pre the
Speaker 1: pre comb of a tornado or what it was necessarily,
Speaker 1: but it was just very like I cut. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe what I was looking at.
Speaker 2: That is a meteorological term, pre com pre covid. The
Speaker 2: sky turns, it looks like the northern lights, but like evil.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, like it's the same. It's like mystical.
Speaker 2: But you know, but where's terrifying? Where's that color?
Speaker 1: Also growing up?
Speaker 5: Because Chicago and they get many tornadoes, but we got some,
Speaker 5: especially in the suburbs. Uh So, you know, people won't
Speaker 5: understand the fear, not fear because we got used to it.
Speaker 3: But hearing the tornado horn go off, you.
Speaker 1: Just hear it.
Speaker 3: That shit start going on. You like boys about to
Speaker 3: get windy up in here all the time.
Speaker 2: It's so insane. It's like it's like there's it's like
Speaker 2: a World War two bombing alarm, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You're not used to like on alarms. It's like a
Speaker 2: car alarm. But for the whole city, it's a crazy experience.
Speaker 3: It's very wild. Yeah, very wild.
Speaker 1: All right, Well more, we are going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things.
Speaker 1: We're talking about. Two nights ago was Debate night. We
Speaker 1: discussed it on Yesterday's Trending. But we're just going to
Speaker 1: check in with you know what, if anybody has seen
Speaker 1: any of the clips, what what your thoughts are and
Speaker 1: then you can do a little bit of a deeper
Speaker 1: dive on Vivek, who seems to be the surprise focus
Speaker 1: of the first debate. And there's this phrase that you
Speaker 1: often hear about him, that he is a scientist who
Speaker 1: has developed a number of medicines, which would be surprising
Speaker 1: to you if you watched the debate and saw that
Speaker 1: he thinks climate change is a hoax. And so we're
Speaker 1: just going to like dig into what his scientific scientist
Speaker 1: bonafie days are. We're gonna check him with Jorna Jordan
Speaker 1: Peterson Jorna as I call him for some reason, uh,
Speaker 1: because he has to go to Twitter school apparently.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna we're gonna look into the subtext of
Speaker 1: the Mission Impossible movies like what whether there is some
Speaker 1: scientological subtext running below the surface. All of that plenty more,
Speaker 1: But first more, we do like to ask our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history?
Speaker 2: I like to pick the I tried to pick the
Speaker 2: most boring one.
Speaker 1: Uh. Good good.
Speaker 2: I feel like that makes a good good podcast. And
Speaker 2: last night I searched how do I cook potatoes?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, my my I love this. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My wife made a really good curry. Although she and
Speaker 2: look this, I love spicy. I actually really do like
Speaker 2: spicy shit. But like by any measure, it was way
Speaker 2: too spicy. Uh, just like nose flooding spicy, you know.
Speaker 2: So I had to go. I was like, we can't
Speaker 2: waste all this curry she made so much. So I
Speaker 2: went to the store and got potatoes, corn, and onions,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm going to thicken up this curry.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna cut the curry with various vegeta
Speaker 2: stepped on. Yeah, you need this curry to be stepped
Speaker 2: on exactly bingos. So then and then I just yeah.
Speaker 2: So then I ended up boiling the potatoes for twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes and yeap, and it was great, honestly, a
Speaker 2: little bit of salt and then a little bit of
Speaker 2: salt in the onions, cooked the onions in a separate pan,
Speaker 2: and yeah, ended up really making a solid curry.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this, Listen, as a potato lover, I
Speaker 5: wouldn't trust anybody's who don't like potatoes.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody can eat them, Vegans can eat them.
Speaker 5: Everybody can eat a potato, right, And there's a in
Speaker 5: the choose your own adventure with the potato, Like, what
Speaker 5: is what would you see? What would you say your
Speaker 5: top three potato is?
Speaker 2: I mean, look, potatoes are French fries. Potatoes are potato chips.
Speaker 2: Potatoes are know the like a sad little cousin, the
Speaker 2: baked potato.
Speaker 3: Yeah, doude, I.
Speaker 2: Love a hash brown. I'll do a hash bro any day.
Speaker 2: I'll do a night hash brown. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: know why we're for brunch.
Speaker 1: A night A night hash brown.
Speaker 3: Night hash brown is great, so good.
Speaker 2: I'll do scrambled eggs with like veggies on top and
Speaker 2: hash browns on top.
Speaker 1: It's this whole.
Speaker 2: It's a hash. It's a mixed up hash.
Speaker 5: Are we talking are we talking shredded hash or are
Speaker 5: we talking hash brown patties?
Speaker 2: Beautiful question, Thank you chichies. I would do. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go shredded just because you know what else I love
Speaker 2: is like the little shoe string potatoes. I like a
Speaker 2: thin I prefer.
Speaker 1: A thin potato. Do a thing so you can get
Speaker 1: a lot of the crust on the potato. I feel
Speaker 1: like hash brown is like that. We we have lots
Speaker 1: of potato options for dinner and lunch. That are all good.
Speaker 1: You know, the chip, you ran through a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: the chip, the French fry, mashed potatoes, I even love.
Speaker 3: I love your mash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, breakfast potatoes, though, I feel like hash browns are
Speaker 1: so far out in front of the home style potatoes.
Speaker 1: They do not like home style potatoes either. Keep those
Speaker 1: in your home.
Speaker 3: You sick coming home?
Speaker 5: You you They they're so easy to fuck up, that's
Speaker 5: the thing. Yes, Because like the thing about the thing
Speaker 5: about a breakfast potato in any variety, whether it's paddy
Speaker 5: hash brown patty or shredded hash around even breakfast, is
Speaker 5: the seasoning, Like.
Speaker 3: That's what's gonna. That's what's gonna.
Speaker 5: And like the thing about shredded is is shraded so
Speaker 5: thinly that the seasoning really soaks in really well. And
Speaker 5: when they're diced or home style, they're just cubes of potatoes.
Speaker 5: So the season to be following, you gotta make them soft,
Speaker 5: and if you don't, you make them too hard, then
Speaker 5: that season and not gonna hit. The home style potato
Speaker 5: is my my least favorite of the breakfast potato.
Speaker 2: And they're they're leaning so hard on Rosemary. They're acting
Speaker 2: like rose just found out about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's not that great?
Speaker 2: No, it's like yeah, it's yeah, it's like a it's
Speaker 2: like a subtle it's like slightly better tasting, like pencil
Speaker 2: shavings or something, you know what I mean. It's just weird.
Speaker 2: It stasts weird. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Texture is a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Roseberry is like a suggestion of It's like a
Speaker 2: whisper of a seasoning.
Speaker 5: It's a garnish almost. Oh the little the little spike things.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it smells great, smells like it's going
Speaker 1: to be the least Yeah. And then but you shouldn't
Speaker 1: have to eat it. It's like pine needles weird air. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, potatoes, O'Brien, my aka is not a
Speaker 1: good potatoes dish. I don't think I've ever fully come
Speaker 1: out and said that, but uh, it's like green peppers
Speaker 1: and red peppers and maybe some tomatoes thrown in and
Speaker 1: like with some home fries, and it's just not not
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm looking for from potatoes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2: It's all about the crisp. It's exactly like you were
Speaker 2: saying about the hash browns. What you need the surface
Speaker 2: area to be much larger than the interior area.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, give mee crust.
Speaker 5: Underrated potato, underrated potato, cheesy scalloped underrated. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 5: get it too often, but every time I do, I'm like,
Speaker 5: shit hits.
Speaker 1: Well, here's what's interesting.
Speaker 2: Is most so like most cheese dishes are just cheese
Speaker 2: delivery systems, right like your math cheese is you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But the cheesy scallops or ero grotten potatoes,
Speaker 2: those are both potatoes which are amazing, and cheese, which
Speaker 2: is great, so you can't really go wrong.
Speaker 1: Beautiful real cast roll if if you're if, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go cast roll. I don't mind the two predominant ingredients
Speaker 1: being cheese and potatoes. That's beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: This is now a pretty passable food podcast. We just
Speaker 2: changed it is.
Speaker 1: It's whatever, it's whatever you want it to be. What
Speaker 1: what's something more? Do you think is overrated? U?
Speaker 2: Overrated? Waking up early? Mm?
Speaker 1: Hmmm?
Speaker 2: Hell yes, I think we have a society built on
Speaker 2: a bunch of try hard nerds and uh who are
Speaker 2: all are all up at six am, can't wait to
Speaker 2: get their oatmeal and face the day, you know, and uh,
Speaker 2: I just you know what I mean? And now everybody's
Speaker 2: got to work the sun from sunrise to sunset because
Speaker 2: these weirdos woke up early and made it the law
Speaker 2: while they're still.
Speaker 1: Sleep a bunch of bridges that we have to use.
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, if you're gonna use our bridges,
Speaker 1: you gotta play by our rules, that's right.
Speaker 2: And I just feel like, man, all right, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be controversial. But all the most evil people in history,
Speaker 2: I'm certain there's no like the people that created the
Speaker 2: fossil fuel industry. They weren't rolling out of bed at
Speaker 2: twelve thirty like a bunch of badasses. Yeah no, they
Speaker 2: were not. You know, from like Stalin to whoever Trump.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure they're all up early.
Speaker 1: I think like to party and sleep in a little bit.
Speaker 1: They're actually sorry. He was beta means right, and he
Speaker 1: didn't sleep, Yeah he didn't. He didn't sleep much. But
Speaker 1: when he did, don't don't wake him up in the morning.
Speaker 5: Getting up early too, is also a form of punishment sometimes,
Speaker 5: you know, it'd be like get up and go work,
Speaker 5: or when you in jail, they would be like, all right,
Speaker 5: you can start working at one and be like nah,
Speaker 5: get up, wake up, call seven am like, that's what
Speaker 5: it's punishmentunishment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. The look on somebody's face when
Speaker 2: they just woke up. If you've ever watched somebody while
Speaker 2: they're waking up, they look like somebody just punched them
Speaker 2: and handed them a puzzle to solve. It's like the
Speaker 2: most confusing face. You know, it's hard, it's hard waking up. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The only time, the only time a person should wake
Speaker 5: up early is when, like you have a child, because
Speaker 5: you're teaching that child, and that child is just gonna
Speaker 5: wake up all the time. And but once that child
Speaker 5: learns to stay your ass asleep, then you you can
Speaker 5: go back and stay your ass sleep too.
Speaker 3: And we should all wake up collectively.
Speaker 5: At noon, yes, yeah, and then the workday should be
Speaker 5: four hours and then we can enjoy the rest of
Speaker 5: our night, go to bed whenever, and wake up and
Speaker 5: the day should be starting at noon.
Speaker 1: Are we still describing Europe basically?
Speaker 5: Yesus much to figure out, pretty much. But the thing
Speaker 5: that sucks though I'm not a morning person. I don't
Speaker 5: like the morning, I don't like waking up, but I
Speaker 5: still feel the guilt of sleeping in like, and it
Speaker 5: makes me so upset. Like whenever I if it's past
Speaker 5: nine thirty, I'm like I've wasted the day and like
Speaker 5: I haven't. I don't want to get up. I don't
Speaker 5: want to like be up. I want to stay in
Speaker 5: my bed. But like the guilt will fucking get me
Speaker 5: all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's cultural. That's a cultural reaction to a
Speaker 2: bunch of dorks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Waking up early was invented by farmers and nerds,
Speaker 1: and nobody's ever had fun with them. I think fun
Speaker 1: is like building a barn is fun. That's work, right,
Speaker 1: that's work. Yeah, yeah, how do we how do we
Speaker 1: cram some work into this party? Let's build a fucking barn. Yeah. There,
Speaker 1: there's like a real rise and grind thing that I
Speaker 1: am am over, like the the thing with Mark Wahlberg
Speaker 1: and the Rock like being in competition to see who
Speaker 1: can like wake up earlier, like start their workout earlier,
Speaker 1: to the point that they're like now just doing it
Speaker 1: late at night, Like they're like getting up at two
Speaker 1: am to start their workout. Is seems like a form
Speaker 1: of like insanity.
Speaker 2: Dude, Like what are you running from? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Where? What is the pain?
Speaker 2: What pain exists? So deep in you that you can't
Speaker 2: like be There's that quote of like all the trouble
Speaker 2: in the world is man's based on man's inability to
Speaker 2: sit in a room alone.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, just with his thoughts.
Speaker 2: We're dealing with people who like, they're soaf They're like,
Speaker 2: it's the opposite of meditation, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yes, Like, yeah, exactly, go keep going.
Speaker 2: You're like, why why are we all going?
Speaker 1: Just one moment of silence and then the thought I
Speaker 1: should probably get on Instagram and stream this brother chow
Speaker 1: them my uh show my amazing at home portable mobile
Speaker 1: gym that costs it's basically an actual transformer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyways, what is uh? What's something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: Dogs?
Speaker 1: Dogs? Okay, I've never heard of the I've I've been
Speaker 1: hearing some things, but I've never actually met one in person.
Speaker 1: Tell it, What's what's the deal with these things?
Speaker 2: I think that probably twenty five percent of all conversations
Speaker 2: should be about how great dogs are. I I got
Speaker 2: I didn't have a dog for a long time, and
Speaker 2: then I got a dog like a year ago. And this, dude,
Speaker 2: I know this. I'm not the first one to say this.
Speaker 2: But he well, the first one to say this. He
Speaker 2: greets me like women meeting Mick Jagger in the late sixties.
Speaker 2: Like every time I come home, he cannot believe he's wiggling.
Speaker 2: It's like if you had a friend who every time
Speaker 2: you saw them, they were so happy they just started dancing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, Yeah, just can't.
Speaker 2: He runs in circles. He runs in circles. He's so
Speaker 2: happy to see me, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 2: like twice a day where I feel like a full
Speaker 2: on absolute rock and roll star.
Speaker 1: You know, that's great.
Speaker 2: It's so good. The guy soag. His name's Cody. He's
Speaker 2: an American Staffe. He's a little he's a genius. It's
Speaker 2: all he does is cuddle. It's improved my life dramatically.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 5: I have I've only had one dog in my life,
Speaker 5: and I'm dating someone now who has two dogs.
Speaker 3: But I currently also have two cats.
Speaker 5: And just like the difference, the difference in like energy
Speaker 5: is astounding and even you know, because dogs also like
Speaker 5: you have to almost train them to not be as excited.
Speaker 5: If not, they will maul you. It will just maul
Speaker 5: you if not, and like and then I'll come home ill,
Speaker 5: like may not see my cat for like a whole day,
Speaker 5: or if I go on vacation, I'll come home and
Speaker 5: then like one of my cats will be sleeping and
Speaker 5: I'll open the door and they'll just pop their hair
Speaker 5: and be like, oh it's you, and then like go back.
Speaker 3: I'm like fuck you, fuck you you.
Speaker 5: And it's so but like when cats want to be
Speaker 5: affectionate and cuddly and stuff, and I know somebody out
Speaker 5: there is like Mark comes to the fuck you like
Speaker 5: most cats don't.
Speaker 1: Your head has something wrong with it, then okay, your
Speaker 1: cat is a dog. I had the dog that was
Speaker 1: a cat. It would it would curl up in a
Speaker 1: beam of sunshine, lick its pause and was just very chill.
Speaker 1: I think it suffered from depression and but it like
Speaker 1: had the personality like anybody who came over was like
Speaker 1: that dog is doing the best impersonation of a cat.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also have two cats and one dog, and I
Speaker 2: love the cats. They definitely do this thing where they
Speaker 2: like they look at you like they're superior, but like
Speaker 2: I just watch you ship in a box inside, like
Speaker 2: how are you acting? You're a super bottle? Brian.
Speaker 3: Brian asked, who cleans.
Speaker 5: That'll be right, we clean up they ship done ready
Speaker 5: for you, congratulations. But you know, but but but I
Speaker 5: will say for cats, at least we get to use
Speaker 5: like a little Scooper and and you know it's it's
Speaker 5: masked in sand or whatever, you know, litter and.
Speaker 3: Ship but with the dog for the most part, with
Speaker 3: your hands.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, wild, totally forget about that.
Speaker 1: When you don't actively have a dog. It's so easy
Speaker 1: to forget.
Speaker 5: Imagine like your kids shitting jack and like instead of
Speaker 5: the diaper, you have to like grab it with your
Speaker 5: fucking hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean just wild this wild.
Speaker 1: It is, it is.
Speaker 2: It is a mess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kids shitting is a whole other thing. Now they're
Speaker 1: five and seven and not in diapers anymore, but they.
Speaker 3: Yet you're still cleaning up there now.
Speaker 1: They just love to like have conversations while it's happening.
Speaker 1: There's a like their brain enters a new phase where
Speaker 1: they're just like get real chilled out and like have
Speaker 1: deep philosophical questions for me, all of a sudden when
Speaker 1: they're taking a ship's weird contemplative. Yeah, they become real
Speaker 1: contemplative and ask me like the big questions. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, why is this happening?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: You have two sons, right, yeah, two boys?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, well listen, sound like me to just real huh.
Speaker 2: How do my bones move me?
Speaker 5: Ye?
Speaker 1: Things like that. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. And we're back, and we
Speaker 1: are at a point in history, just for people listening
Speaker 1: to this on Friday, we are at a point where
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's mugshot has not been released yet. I don't
Speaker 1: know if where where you people are it has been released.
Speaker 1: We we do not have any insight into the mugshot,
Speaker 1: although we have gotten to see like his team's mugshots.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen seen those, Rudy Giuliani looking the
Speaker 1: most like a crooked politician who's been caught doing something, Like.
Speaker 3: I just it's pretty great.
Speaker 1: It's amazing that that is what he went with that,
Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't know if they were like
Speaker 1: if he didn't know when the picture was being taken,
Speaker 1: but he just looks so much like he's just yeah,
Speaker 1: like a corrupt politician being caught doing something, and like
Speaker 1: he's in the middle of the phrase like I would
Speaker 1: have gotten away with it too, if it weren't.
Speaker 3: For meddling kids, ye.
Speaker 2: Liberals, like nobody else.
Speaker 1: Out of the group of mugshots, there's there's one guy
Speaker 1: who's like gone real evil, like there is a darkness
Speaker 1: inside his soul. The guy in the blue shirt. He
Speaker 1: looks like the mugshots of famous people, like when they're
Speaker 1: caught like doing a dui, Like you can see that
Speaker 1: their life is at the lowest point that it's ever
Speaker 1: been at like that, which again, it just feels like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I assumed everyone go in smiling, right,
Speaker 1: Like isn't that what you're supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean that guy, the blue shirt guy
Speaker 2: looks like if you the people that commit the most
Speaker 2: like atrocious crimes or like, oh that guy had somebody
Speaker 2: in his basement for twenty that makes sense, That makes
Speaker 2: sense why he has that look on his face like
Speaker 2: he's devoid of any soul.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a woman smiling like. The youngest person
Speaker 1: in these pictures is a woman who is one of
Speaker 1: Trump's lawyers who would like go on Fox News and
Speaker 1: say things I forget her name, but she'd go on
Speaker 1: Fox News and say things that would make people be like, wait,
Speaker 1: you're a lawyer.
Speaker 3: Are you sure?
Speaker 1: Sorry, it says here you're a lawyer, but our researchers
Speaker 1: must have gotten that wrong, because what you're saying does
Speaker 1: not make any sense. But yeah, she's smiling. I think
Speaker 1: she got the she understood the assignment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and her picture looks the best picture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she looks wonderful.
Speaker 5: Hair done, you know, got the little side part almost
Speaker 5: going down.
Speaker 3: I see her.
Speaker 1: I see a little new gingrich guy who's like also
Speaker 1: smiling and just looks like, you know, he's having a
Speaker 1: good time, which I think, I think that should always
Speaker 1: be your goal. In the mugshot is like they don't
Speaker 1: let the bastards get you down.
Speaker 3: He's also missing the top right of his skull.
Speaker 1: In feature, it's like a blown out Yeah, so white,
Speaker 1: his hair is so white. And then they've like blown
Speaker 1: out the lighting so much. He's just so he makes
Speaker 1: cameras not work anymore. He's just it looks like he's
Speaker 1: dissolving into light.
Speaker 5: But love that, Like I also love that, Like still
Speaker 5: to this it has to be purposeful, like with how
Speaker 5: great cameras are, Like they still use like like a
Speaker 5: six like megapixel camera for all ske like the iPhone
Speaker 5: can't get better pictures than these, but they still use
Speaker 5: the still the worst camera they can possibly use for mugshots.
Speaker 3: Cracks me up so much.
Speaker 2: Is so funny on Julianti is very like German expressionism,
Speaker 2: Like he looks he looks like nos Faratu, like got
Speaker 2: forced to go outside in the daytime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really does. Like he looked like they were
Speaker 1: just like asshole like and he he was like busily
Speaker 1: like devouring a mouse in the corner. And then they're like.
Speaker 2: Hey, Rudy, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: He's looking Yeah, you seem borrett too, all right, So
Speaker 1: that is happening. This is there's all sorts of things
Speaker 1: happening that you know. The timing isn't great on this one, guys.
Speaker 1: Uh debate was a whole night ago. Have you guys
Speaker 1: had any chance to like catch any of the clips
Speaker 1: anything jump out at you.
Speaker 3: I called a couple I'll call I'll call it dude.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna attempt to say his name because I
Speaker 5: will butcher it. We all know who I'm talking, Yes, Swami, yep, yeah,
Speaker 5: I I you know, love that my guy, good old VR.
Speaker 5: But I love that he's trying to poison him. So
Speaker 5: he even like said the same Obama line like I'm
Speaker 5: just a skinnercare with a funny last name. I bet
Speaker 5: you wonder why I'm up here. I'm like, dude, y'all
Speaker 5: shut your ass up. Yeah he's here.
Speaker 3: I think he wants to.
Speaker 5: It just cracks me up when like, because there's always
Speaker 5: the fresh faced one of the Republican group, and you
Speaker 5: know it's usually a person of color and like that
Speaker 5: bubbly but like, you know, I'm the smart young option.
Speaker 5: You know, basically is the is the is the Obama
Speaker 5: want to be of of the field, and he is.
Speaker 5: I think like in his mind he's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be the I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Be that for this like field as far as.
Speaker 5: Young personal color, so white people can be like, see,
Speaker 5: we do support the black and browns, We support him.
Speaker 3: They just need to be a little bit more like him.
Speaker 5: Uh Like that's that's what he is. And he just
Speaker 5: cracks me up. But it's look, it's working. He's he's
Speaker 5: rising as from what I've heard and the clips and
Speaker 5: everybody's talking about him, you know, he's rising as what
Speaker 5: people are saying could be the second option. Yeah, Santis
Speaker 5: has kind of fallen off or.
Speaker 1: Had he had that smile, that one moment where he
Speaker 1: like gave you know what was like a pre canned
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what he was like, and I'm
Speaker 1: your man, and that's why I'll be president and you
Speaker 1: can count on it, and I will never abandon you,
Speaker 1: and like hit his final line and then the camera
Speaker 1: lingered on him for like I guess two seconds longer
Speaker 1: than he was expecting. Or maybe this was like a
Speaker 1: smile that he had been practicing. We talked about it
Speaker 1: Yesterday's trending, but it's it was the worst, like the
Speaker 1: most fail catastrophically failed attempt at a smile that I
Speaker 1: think I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Like watching the Terminator learn to smile or whatever. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: he Doesanteo slet he I've watched a lot of comedy.
Speaker 2: He had the vibe of this was his third open mic, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: like he was he looked so nervous, Like he looked
Speaker 2: like he had forgotten how to swallow and kind of talk,
Speaker 2: you know, like there was there was a look on
Speaker 2: his face like he was like, right, I shouldn't be here.
Speaker 2: Uh is that mistake?
Speaker 1: Yeah? There are different things like that, there's that one
Speaker 1: viral post where he's like or that, you know, somebody's
Speaker 1: interviewing him, and like his eyes like go through these
Speaker 1: like different phases of like responding and like thinking about
Speaker 1: what his face looks like and thinking about like whether
Speaker 1: he's smiling, and like you can just see like things
Speaker 1: are coming apart inside of him, Like he's just like
Speaker 1: not able to like hold the forces within himself together anymore,
Speaker 1: and like that that seemed to happen at a few
Speaker 1: moments in the debate. It's not like he totally just
Speaker 1: lost his mind on up there, but he was pretty bad.
Speaker 3: He's I mean, we're starting to see. I mean, here's
Speaker 3: the thing. Here's why. When people was like, man, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm really worried.
Speaker 5: I'm very worried about the census, I was like, why
Speaker 5: why he gives off the energy of a woefully lame
Speaker 5: person who now has power. Yeah, and once he got
Speaker 5: to the national stage, he was gonna get his ass
Speaker 5: eight the fuck up. Why And But but the difference, though,
Speaker 5: is he has shame. He's trying to pretend like he don't,
Speaker 5: but he has, whereas Trump don't get no shame. You're
Speaker 5: like hit me up, I'll roast you back like which
Speaker 5: like unfortunately works as a politician. Desantans has shame, so
Speaker 5: that's why he's following upart because like he's getting his
Speaker 5: ass ate up and everybody's starting to see, oh, like
Speaker 5: you're also terrible, but you're just lame dude. You're a
Speaker 5: lame white guy. You have nothing else.
Speaker 1: He's just not Yeah, he's not built for it like
Speaker 1: Trump is. Yeah, Trump has a weird like Trump has
Speaker 1: the perfect personality disorder, where like he's uncomfortable unless he's
Speaker 1: like insulting someone or being insulted or like some part
Speaker 1: of him is like you know at stake, like unless
Speaker 1: like the like soul, like the hole in the center
Speaker 1: of his being that like you know, his narcissism is
Speaker 1: constantly trying to fill in for like and unless that
Speaker 1: is like propelling him like a jet engine. Like he's uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: whereas like Desantas is like furious like all the time,
Speaker 1: but he's like trying to hide it. And then he's
Speaker 1: just like thin skin and you can't see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and like and and like look there's other people
Speaker 5: like like even Bush like was kind of thing scinned
Speaker 5: and weird and stuff. But like at his core, Bush
Speaker 5: was a frat boy cocaine. Like yeah, there was like
Speaker 5: there's like has a degree of no shame to him,
Speaker 5: Like there's like a.
Speaker 2: Childlike quality to Bush. I think that was like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like talking about shame as like the arbor of
Speaker 2: what's going on with these guys. Yeah, he wasn't smart
Speaker 2: enough to have shame. Yeah, right, I think his has
Speaker 2: buried a lifetime of shame. So it's like there's a
Speaker 2: I think there's like an ocean of shame that cannot
Speaker 2: be touched, like if you get anywhere near it. He's
Speaker 2: like you said, he's soup. He's a snake, right, Like
Speaker 2: his heart is a spider. That's what you have to fuck,
Speaker 2: that's what you have to have going on.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, these dudes.
Speaker 2: I think to really to have him be like fuck
Speaker 2: yet like that's what they That feels like power to them,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Santas is Catholic, so that that would make
Speaker 1: sense that he's got the shame, the focus on the shame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: It's like we should I think we should just run
Speaker 2: like Jeff Ross or something like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like these like mid grade like insult comics, you know, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you should just get a professional there, just talk about
Speaker 2: his bad body and watch him cry, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, as we talked about yesterday, like that's what
Speaker 1: Trump was doing for for most of the debate, was
Speaker 1: just talking about how Biden has like a bad beach body.
Speaker 1: On his Tucker Carlson interview, we dug into that a
Speaker 1: little bit more. You can go listen to your trending
Speaker 1: episode from yesterday. But I don't know what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do with the beach thing. They're not. They look
Speaker 1: like he looks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's insane. It's so funny, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: He loves to make fun of Chris Christy for being overweight,
Speaker 1: always on the verge of toppling over.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's one cheeseburger away from being Chris.
Speaker 3: That's rude.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but he's talking about Yeah, it's just like.
Speaker 3: Brou do you see yourself? Like, what are you? What
Speaker 3: is you talking about?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: I think he's on oz epic though he's he's looking
Speaker 1: a little bit thinner. That's my guess is what's going
Speaker 1: on with both Trump and DeSantis. They both like seem
Speaker 1: like they're slimming down in a way that's probably not
Speaker 1: very healthy and.
Speaker 2: Not to like body ship. There's absolutely nothing wrong with
Speaker 2: being any weight at all. But when you come like everybody,
Speaker 2: oh that you were is fat, You're like, no, you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like do you see, Like what is
Speaker 3: you talking about?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so but yeah, Vivek was kind of the big focus,
Speaker 1: you know, hence came for him, like this is such
Speaker 1: a such a blessing for him to get is like
Speaker 1: the Pence comes for him. He's like, this is not
Speaker 1: the time for on the job training, young man. You
Speaker 1: need to be experienced and know that when you're in
Speaker 1: battle you just close your eyes really hard and wish
Speaker 1: you were somewhere else, you know. But he basically called
Speaker 1: him out, and then Vivec proceeded to you know, go
Speaker 1: After that, he told Mike Pence the us s R
Speaker 1: no longer exists, which I thought was kind of a
Speaker 1: good burn told Christy Uh said that Christy is gunning
Speaker 1: for an MSNBC contributor position uh and that Nikki Hayley's
Speaker 1: likely future is on the board of a defense contractor
Speaker 1: instead of the White House. So he kind of like, yeah, good, solid, solid, burns.
Speaker 3: This is this is fucked up.
Speaker 5: This is so fucked up that like this is entertaining
Speaker 5: because these are terrible people who are like you know,
Speaker 5: running to basically lessen the quality of mine and so
Speaker 5: many others lives. Yeah, Like but like it's also like
Speaker 5: the nature that that is also the nature of Like
Speaker 5: I love sports, Jack, you love sports.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you love sports or not more,
Speaker 3: but like.
Speaker 5: It it makes me upset that Like when Trump was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to debate, I was like, yeah, why
Speaker 5: would he because like.
Speaker 3: The sport competitive brain in me is like, yeah, what, Like.
Speaker 1: The saber metrics on that decision were actually really solid.
Speaker 5: Upset. Yeah, but like from a political standpoint, is shit
Speaker 5: because we as the people, should hear what you have
Speaker 5: to say about where you want to take our country. Right.
Speaker 5: But the political game, the election game, has become such
Speaker 5: a spectacle and a sport that like it, that's exactly
Speaker 5: what it is.
Speaker 3: So it's about.
Speaker 5: Burns and like all these things that have nothing to
Speaker 5: do with us essentially as far as like the actual
Speaker 5: people that you're trying to help is it's a game.
Speaker 5: It's a Game's popular contest.
Speaker 1: Vivek sells himself as a science guy, even though he
Speaker 1: claimed he's the only person on stage who claimed that
Speaker 1: climate change is a hoax. Also, like just based on
Speaker 1: you know, some people are like he was the focus
Speaker 1: because he's like serving as Trump's stand in because he's
Speaker 1: like a far right and experienced outsider outsider, and he
Speaker 1: is running third in Republican polling, so he has like
Speaker 1: a lot of interest I'm assuming from like younger people.
Speaker 1: He seems like he has more of a like younger
Speaker 1: person vibe. Whoever, the younger conservatives are I guess just
Speaker 1: like fascists for young fascists. I love him. But so
Speaker 1: he describes himself as a scientist who has developed a
Speaker 1: number of medicines, when in reality, he's just like a
Speaker 1: hedge fund grifter bro who got into the biotech industry
Speaker 1: and like it, is mostly known in that industry for
Speaker 1: a colossal failure that you know, because of the way
Speaker 1: he structured the deal that failed for everyone else, he
Speaker 1: got incredibly rich off of it. But what he did
Speaker 1: is he basically looked for patents for drugs that had
Speaker 1: been abandoned for business reasons, then bought them for cheap,
Speaker 1: and then invested heavily in developing the drugs, and his
Speaker 1: big first gamble was on an Alzheimer's drug, and it
Speaker 1: had like failed four times, but he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I really have feeling about this one.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: Trust me here, I've got my leg businessman's intuition. This
Speaker 1: is gonna work out. He got the company to like
Speaker 1: a three billion dollar valuation on this model and on
Speaker 1: like all of his promises around this Alzheimer's drug, and
Speaker 1: then this is all before the new clinical trial happened.
Speaker 1: But you know, he had a good feeling about this one.
Speaker 1: And then when the drug finally conducted another clinical trial,
Speaker 1: it failed again like it had multiple times up to
Speaker 1: that point, and the stock price plunged. And you know,
Speaker 1: but because of the way the system set up, he's
Speaker 1: kind of insulated from the failure. And he made like
Speaker 1: four hundred million dollars off of doing what I just described.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, also, like I do, I'm a firm. I mean,
Speaker 5: this happens on every side of each eye, especially in politics,
Speaker 5: but like the notion that you just have to play
Speaker 5: the game as far as like climate change, for instance,
Speaker 5: in him saying it's a hoax, like even though he's
Speaker 5: you know, not a respectable or reputable scientist by you know,
Speaker 5: the terms of a respectable and reputable scientist. But like,
Speaker 5: I don't believe in one second he thinks climate change
Speaker 5: is a hoax. Like if you are around scientists enough
Speaker 5: and you actually believe in science, then you know the scientific,
Speaker 5: fucking life proven fact that climate change is not a hoax, right, So, like,
Speaker 5: but him as a Republican and him, you know, he
Speaker 5: has to say these It's kind of like when Obama
Speaker 5: and when he first you know, came onto the scene
Speaker 5: and he was like, you know, he was saying things
Speaker 5: like you know, I don't believe in gay marriage, when
Speaker 5: like I knew that to not be true because Obama
Speaker 5: went to the same church as my mom, who is
Speaker 5: a lesbian who got married at that church, and he
Speaker 5: was there, like you know, so like, you know, but
Speaker 5: he has to say that on a national stage, right,
Speaker 5: because that's where we are. And so like it's just
Speaker 5: sad to me that like some of these things have
Speaker 5: to be said and they're of detriment solely because it's
Speaker 5: just what you think most of your party believes. So
Speaker 5: you have to, like you got to play the game.
Speaker 5: And like, because I don't I don't believe it for once.
Speaker 5: I don't believe that for one second. Maybe maybe it's true,
Speaker 5: maybe he doesn't and he's a moron, but like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, if he's being honest, the reality is like
Speaker 2: I don't care the climate change exists, right rightists, I'm
Speaker 2: pocketing enough cash up this thing that I'll totally say
Speaker 2: that to like wild applause. Like he literally says, like
Speaker 2: we celebrated, we were taught to to celebrate diversity too much,
Speaker 2: That's what he said. Yeah, Like, dude, they're not gonna
Speaker 2: run Like okay, there's no what do you guys think
Speaker 2: they're gonna run a person of color? Like do you
Speaker 2: think that would possibly? Because yeah, maybe, Like here's who
Speaker 2: wouldn't vote for him is the old conservatives and they're like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, seventy five percent old you know right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know. I think what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: I think what's gonna happen is all these people are
Speaker 5: running to possibly become Trump's vice presidential pick.
Speaker 1: Right. I think there's also some hope that like or
Speaker 1: his campaign falls apart because he's in jail.
Speaker 3: Oh well yes that too, yes that too, So it
Speaker 3: is needed that.
Speaker 5: But if he doesn't go to jail and he is
Speaker 5: able to continue with this campaign and he gets the nomination,
Speaker 5: I could see him picking somebody like VR, you know,
Speaker 5: solely because he you know, strategically, he thinks it'll give
Speaker 5: him votes that he would not get.
Speaker 2: Right Otherwise, he does TV well, right, That's the entire thing, now,
Speaker 2: Like that was the brilliant thing about bringing in Trump
Speaker 2: is that he is a television star, so he does
Speaker 2: TV relatively well. I don't even think that well compared
Speaker 2: to like normal TV people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He's still like weird and sweaty and like, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of like like unpleasant to experience, you know, like
Speaker 2: he's like like his charisma kind of bums me out.
Speaker 2: But it's definitely there, you know where it's like, and
Speaker 2: that this kid, he's good at talking. He's good, Like
Speaker 2: you said, he had a couple of birds. He seemed
Speaker 2: like he enjoyed being there, like Kent seemed like the
Speaker 2: whole thing was a goddamn headache, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And always yeah, he always appears like you can just
Speaker 1: both him and Dessanta's get the sense like deep down
Speaker 1: they would not want to be doing this. They are
Speaker 1: tolerating this.
Speaker 2: And it's really condescending, sort of like religious right, like
Speaker 2: really disappointed in everyone. And that's why he like got
Speaker 2: booed when he said that thing to that kid. Is
Speaker 2: he was acting like he was talking to like a kindergartener. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, he's talking to vivic Nobody likes that shit.
Speaker 2: It's condescending, you know. Yeah, Whereas like there's a there's
Speaker 2: a huge in what Trump does, whether you think he's
Speaker 2: funny or not, Like it's it is kind of funny
Speaker 2: to be an asshole all the time, right, That's sort
Speaker 2: of that's like a known comedic persona like oh yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy's a monster dickhead no matter what happens. You know,
Speaker 2: It's like you could at least trust that there's a
Speaker 2: there's a confidence to it. I'm safe with this guy
Speaker 2: because I know he's going to be a jerk no
Speaker 2: matter what. Where it's like Pence and Disantos, they don't
Speaker 2: feel safe because you know they DeSanto seems like he
Speaker 2: might start crying.
Speaker 1: Or like or hit someone, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: he really seems like he's on the verge of like
Speaker 1: doing something catastrophe, like just really bad for himself for
Speaker 1: somebody like directly around him, like crying or an act
Speaker 1: of violence, like a profoundly violent thing, like seems to
Speaker 1: be like both with him, reachia at any moment.
Speaker 2: And I would, we would They want like somebody who's
Speaker 2: consistent in seeming powerful, even if that's like this desperate
Speaker 2: power that comes from like deep insecurity, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But just to kind of closed the loop, because
Speaker 1: so he's not a man of science, Like he doesn't
Speaker 1: spend time with scientists. He spends time with other billionaires.
Speaker 1: He's a fucking hedge fund guy. He's he's just a
Speaker 1: fucking financial grifter. There's a chance that maybe he believes
Speaker 1: the climate change thing or that it's a posture, but
Speaker 1: either way, it doesn't it doesn't really matter. He would
Speaker 1: he would if he were in power. We would be
Speaker 1: completely fucked.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just that that investment that made him super rich.
Speaker 1: The California State Teachers Retirement System lost a shitload of
Speaker 1: money on that one. Lots of other people lost a
Speaker 1: shipload of money. And it also like setback research on
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's drugs, Like it duped people out of money. But
Speaker 1: it also a expert on like the search for research
Speaker 1: into Alzheimer's was like that money would have been better
Speaker 1: applied almost anywhere else in the field. Well that's a
Speaker 1: direct quote, would have been better applied almost anywhere else
Speaker 1: in the field. So yeah, it's he's it's he has
Speaker 1: some sick burns, but like the shit he's doing.
Speaker 2: He's just like these guys the ability to destroy everyone
Speaker 2: who they come in contact with. I mean, we're looking
Speaker 2: at all the mugshots of the people who supported Trump,
Speaker 2: Like that's what he does foundationally, is whoever he gets
Speaker 2: involved with fucking goes down. When the house burns down,
Speaker 2: you know, And it's exactly like that's good, Like that's
Speaker 2: smart capitalism actually is that? You know. That's the thing
Speaker 2: is these guys, there's a cunning to them that is
Speaker 2: really intelligent. It's just disastrous for like society.
Speaker 1: For everyone else, and they're running for president to head
Speaker 1: up the whole society thing.
Speaker 2: You guys should get a fucking like you should get
Speaker 2: hazard pay for having to watch all this stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and we'll talk about Tom Cruise and we're back.
Speaker 1: So there are some recent reports in the world of
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, speculating that he is stepping away from the religion.
Speaker 1: The evidence is sort of tenuous. He's just like, hasn't
Speaker 1: popped by the UK Scientology headquarters despite living there for
Speaker 1: the past few years. But people are like or it
Speaker 1: could just be he's like visiting a different scientific Like wait,
Speaker 1: you guys, evidence is that you're just camped outside of
Speaker 1: like a single Scientology center in London and haven't seen him.
Speaker 2: Like, but he he.
Speaker 1: Has been like less overtly like Scientology mascot and more
Speaker 1: like he's adopted the movies as his public facing. Really,
Speaker 1: He's like like, I'm the movies or are my religion?
Speaker 1: I'm the movies guy. Yeah, yeah, which I prefer that.
Speaker 3: I prefer that.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's town Cruise is a weird case, like
Speaker 5: because obviously it's.
Speaker 3: Weird.
Speaker 5: Scientology is scientology. We don't need to get into that.
Speaker 5: All the things we love, we love it, we love it,
Speaker 5: we love it, we love it. Oh yes, but all
Speaker 5: the things that we hate about Scientology and and you
Speaker 5: know the way we talk about it and the actual
Speaker 5: church and institution. Uh, we could say the same thing
Speaker 5: about Christianity as well. You know, it's just been a
Speaker 5: part of our country for millennia but or cent whatever.
Speaker 5: I don't know, But like, I get annoyed when people
Speaker 5: get mad at me for enjoying a Tom Cruise movie.
Speaker 3: The motherfucker I love it.
Speaker 5: I love a Tom Cruise movie like they're great, Like
Speaker 5: he is a movie star.
Speaker 3: He is a movie star, and I get it, and
Speaker 3: they're fun movies.
Speaker 5: And if he just wants to be like a movie
Speaker 5: star and leave the rest behind it, it's just like,
Speaker 5: all right, man, I would get I.
Speaker 1: Can see I.
Speaker 5: Can see him replacing the addiction of the religion of
Speaker 5: scientology for the addiction of the religion of Hollywood, like
Speaker 5: and acting and stunts and all the shit that he does.
Speaker 5: Like if Tom Cruise, if a news report came out
Speaker 5: next week saying Tom Cruise tragically fell fifteen thousand feet
Speaker 5: from an airplane and passed away, I would not be surprised,
Speaker 5: and I wouldn't even be sad, because I'm like, he
Speaker 5: died doing what he.
Speaker 2: Loved, falling out of the sky, falling from a space blimp,
Speaker 2: trying to set a world record for.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but yeah, so our writer JM. Wash went
Speaker 1: and saw the new Mission Impossible movie. I still haven't
Speaker 1: caught it.
Speaker 2: But I love it.
Speaker 3: It's great. It's good movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's saying that, like, there are some people
Speaker 1: who've been reading the entire franchise as a allegorical story
Speaker 1: about scientology. The best evidence I've read for this is
Speaker 1: the same year that Tom Cruise married Katie Holmes and
Speaker 1: roped her into his cult. Mission Impossible three hit theaters
Speaker 1: and found Ethan Hunt settling down and introducing his wife
Speaker 1: to IMF like the big you know, impossible mission fund
Speaker 1: or is that can't be what it is? But and
Speaker 1: then when ghost Protocol came out, like following his divorce,
Speaker 1: possibly due to scientology, Ethan and his wife similarly split
Speaker 1: because the IMF came between them, which like doesn't really
Speaker 1: make sense that they're like, no, you're too good at
Speaker 1: missions to be married, Ethan. And then in Mission Impossible
Speaker 1: Dead Reckoning, the movie villain is like this all powerful AI,
Speaker 1: but it could easily be seen as a stand in
Speaker 1: for scientology, like the human antagonist described as a Zelot
Speaker 1: who unquestioningly follows the AI entity has mysterious ties to
Speaker 1: Ethan's past, and apparently he joined the IMF right around
Speaker 1: the same time Cruz publicly declared that he was a scientologist.
Speaker 1: And also Simon Pegg's character is trying to diffuse a
Speaker 1: nuclear bomb early in the movie, which he can only do.
Speaker 1: This is the detail that got me, so I was
Speaker 1: like kind of like this theory is a little bit weird.
Speaker 1: But then there's this like scene where Simon Pegg's character
Speaker 1: is trying to diffuse a nuclear bomb and the entity,
Speaker 1: which is like this all powerful AI, quizzes him with
Speaker 1: personal questions that he could potentially use against him at
Speaker 1: a late date. So like he gets like his E
Speaker 1: meter reading, Like that's basically what the entity is doing
Speaker 1: to him. Like everything else is like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: like movie stars have things happen in their movies that
Speaker 1: are similar to their careers, and like that's not like
Speaker 1: having the AI antagonist of your movie basically do the
Speaker 1: scientology E meter test to somebody. Well yeah, while they're
Speaker 1: like trying to battle it and diffuse it just feels
Speaker 1: that feels very weird. And also like the idea of
Speaker 1: that you use the E meter to get secrets about
Speaker 1: people and then use that against them, which is you know,
Speaker 1: kind of the main scientology thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, Jack if that if you if
Speaker 5: this is true, would that make you like or like
Speaker 5: more or like less the movie and the and the franchise.
Speaker 1: More definitely more, I'm always interested in Yeah, oh for sure.
Speaker 2: In this conspiracy theory, are we saying that the script
Speaker 2: writer is like leaking secrets or that Tom Cruise is
Speaker 2: trying to like it's like his like secret like message
Speaker 2: in a bottle note to the world that like please
Speaker 2: pay attention. You know what I'm saying, Like, who's in
Speaker 2: this theory? Who's responsible for this allegory, Like the script writer, maybe.
Speaker 1: The scriptwriter working with Tom Cruise and is like, for
Speaker 1: some reason, I just have this weird idea that this
Speaker 1: might resonate with you, So I've like created this scene. Also,
Speaker 1: the only way to defeat the entity is with a
Speaker 1: cruciform key, like a crucifix key, and Tom Cruise is
Speaker 1: like or it was originally a Catholic before he was
Speaker 1: a scientologist, so like to defeat scientology with literal crucifix.
Speaker 1: I'm just putting things out there. I think there's there
Speaker 1: might be Like Tom Cruise has said that he attended
Speaker 1: the seminary for a year and like before he became
Speaker 1: a scientologist, he called himself basically a born again Christian, So.
Speaker 2: This is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not like a credited screenwriter.
Speaker 2: On the movie. But did you there's this move? What
Speaker 2: is this? There's a movie called Room two thirty seven.
Speaker 2: I think, oh yeah, yeah, it's all about the different
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories that people shining, and really it's about the
Speaker 2: depth of the art of Kubrick's the shining that you
Speaker 2: can sort of like you know, map onto anything, this
Speaker 2: beautiful piece of art, and I feel like that's what
Speaker 2: we're doing here, except for this one is correct.
Speaker 1: Except in this case it's absolutely correct and scientifically.
Speaker 2: Actually, Cruise is a priest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you imagine Tom Cruise as a priest? Like
Speaker 1: how but he does have that like weird, otherworldly like
Speaker 1: joy that is like makes you suspicious, or at least
Speaker 1: makes me suspicious of priests.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah yeah, but he also has like the
Speaker 5: charisma and the ability to talk to anyone as well
Speaker 5: that like is both off putting and disarming at the
Speaker 5: same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank scientology. It saved us from like Tom Cruise
Speaker 1: as the pope, you know, like he would be the
Speaker 1: pope right now if he had gone and gone that way.
Speaker 2: He's the kind of priest who would be like, somebody
Speaker 2: come up here and wrestle me. For god, I don't
Speaker 2: know I believe anymore, but wow, that was like quite
Speaker 2: a show.
Speaker 1: Tommy well More, It's been such a pleasure having you
Speaker 1: on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Where Can People Find You? Follow you all that good stuff? Yeah,
Speaker 2: just at Mort Burke on all the stuff and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: go watch Spiritually Filthy. It's on YouTube and I'm proud
Speaker 2: of it. Thanks for having funny Yeah, thanks, man, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Great to be really good.
Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying
Speaker 1: that you want to send people to.
Speaker 2: Uh, I like the new Bronze video on Thrasher. I'm
Speaker 2: a big skate fan. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: I've That's what I've enjoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh and I recently saw a vast of Night. Did
Speaker 2: you guys see that? I don't think so. This great
Speaker 2: indie like super low budget sci fi thing. I think
Speaker 2: it's on Amazon. It came out like twenty nineteen that
Speaker 2: I missed it. It's really great. I would recommend that.
Speaker 2: All right, go check it out.
Speaker 1: Jaquis. Where can People Find You? Is there a working
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5: Ah, you know what, you can always and every time
Speaker 5: find me in these streets.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 5: Always a pleasure, always a pleasure being on TDZ Love
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Speaker 5: There's a workermedia that I'm like, and who's that and
Speaker 5: it's not there. I want to be very very clear
Speaker 5: that this is not about anybody. I just found this
Speaker 5: so funny, and it's a it's a dude slurping like
Speaker 5: a big ass coffee cup of ice, coffee or drink
Speaker 5: or whatever, and he's like giving side eye to somebody
Speaker 5: and he says, when you're staring at your girl and
Speaker 5: you realize she low key kind of ugly.
Speaker 2: So fun.
Speaker 5: But also like I've also thought like sometimes when people
Speaker 5: are staring at me, and I was like, they probably
Speaker 5: think I'm ugly, drinking in, drink.
Speaker 1: It in, yes, yes, give the yeah, smiling, and.
Speaker 3: Then it cuts to and then it cuts to a
Speaker 3: girl who's like.
Speaker 5: Beautiful, yeah yeah, and like she's like mm hmm and
Speaker 5: you like me too. I just thought that was so funny.
Speaker 2: That's like I didn't know I needed glasses for a
Speaker 2: long time because I didn't have health insurance and I
Speaker 2: want to get my driver's license and they're like, you
Speaker 2: can't read any of these letters, dude, legally need glasses.
Speaker 2: So I got glasses and everybody looked different. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh and even like even unattracted people were interesting because
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, people have like imperfections
Speaker 2: on their faces. It was.
Speaker 3: Yes, so funny that.
Speaker 1: The marriage has ever fallen apart because someone didn't realize
Speaker 1: they hated glasses and then.
Speaker 2: Like, oh god, damn that. Oh no, it's a beautiful blur.
Speaker 1: What I've heard about a people who were engaged and
Speaker 1: then did mushrooms together and then, uh, we're not engaged
Speaker 1: after they did mushrooms together.
Speaker 3: Because they both they both came to realizations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can'tnot see you with like a hawkhead or.
Speaker 1: Whatever tweet I've been enjoying. Uh So, Elon Musk tweeted,
Speaker 1: this was big news, I'm sure to everyone. I have
Speaker 1: overcome the desire to be liked laughing crying emoji for
Speaker 1: some reason. And Noah Garfugle tweeted, and I have overcome
Speaker 1: the desire to dunk a basketball.
Speaker 2: As well.
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