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Speaker 1: I am curious because obviously all the basketball. Did you

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Speaker 2: No, No, I did not.

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Speaker 3: I so my dad is a personal trainer, and so

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Speaker 3: like I played every sport, and he kind of was

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Speaker 3: you should play soccer, you should play those were my

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Speaker 3: am not, I am not a former hooper.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be a journalist.

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Speaker 3: It's what I always wanted to do, and I thought

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Speaker 3: is what I wanted to do. I wanted to write,

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Speaker 3: not even just about athletes, but that's kind of.

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Speaker 2: Where I wanted my career to go.

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Speaker 3: And when I got to college, which is a big

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Speaker 3: And I'm an athletic person who's not particularly good at

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Speaker 3: I was a quite good horseback rider, not a great

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Speaker 3: did you hoop? And what are your credentials? I was like,

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Speaker 3: my credentials are definitely to ask the question, my credentials

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Speaker 3: are because I started my career at the New York Times, right,

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Speaker 3: and so my path kind of like Mina Kimes, she

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Speaker 3: At Bloomberg, I was covering politics, and I was covering

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Speaker 3: sports was the Donald Trump. Stormy Daniel's case happened at

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Speaker 2: So like that was kind of my path into this.

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Speaker 3: And then but the NBA was always my favorite growing up,

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Speaker 3: and it's what my dad would let me stay up

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Speaker 3: late to watch, and so we would watch terrible Golden

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Speaker 3: State Warriors games, like awful, awful Golden State Warriors games

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Speaker 3: and I fell in love with it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 4: So ye, Golden State Warriors. So you were all Oakland.

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Speaker 2: Based, oaken based, because I grew up in oak.

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Speaker 3: Raiders and Raiders Raiders. Every team has gone even I

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Speaker 3: know that they still they bury work hard to stand besides,

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Speaker 3: but even Golden it's it was Oakland and now it's

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Speaker 4: Ocle Oracle that was crazy chases, chase centers loud, but

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Speaker 2: There was nothing like it.

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Speaker 4: My rookie years of last year and it was Yeah,

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Speaker 4: then you go to chase them the next year you're

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Speaker 2: Is the loudest rain that you've ever played in or

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Speaker 4: Top three, top five, top five, top five, top five

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Speaker 4: for sure, Yeah was What's another one was louder Sacramento

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Speaker 4: It was those places, but like Detroit playoffs last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the so the maps obviously they have an interesting,

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Speaker 4: It was the year after the MAVs lost six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the We Believe Warriors and it was

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Speaker 3: They were one seed and they wanted the Warriors because

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Speaker 2: Uh he threw a chair into the wall.

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Speaker 3: And so I think I asked them, are you going

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was like there's like so many, so

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Speaker 3: Going to games there, and I remember, like I remember

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Speaker 2: But people say, well, who is your team now?

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Speaker 3: And you get to know the people, right, So it's

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Speaker 3: But I grew up a huge Golden State fan, and

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Speaker 4: The full detail. So he probably wears a full Raider

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Speaker 2: Well, now it's complicated.

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Speaker 4: You can't you can't wear you can't wear the Golden

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Speaker 1: So is he just like a football free agent or.

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Speaker 2: Now now I think he's open. He's open. Well, so

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Speaker 2: I mean, go birds. I'm married into a married in

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Speaker 3: There's struggling right now, struggling right now. Days from Philly. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's actually but you can probably see it from campus.

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Speaker 1: We all work on Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Because we all work on Christmas, so I mutually agreed

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, hellow yeah forty one.

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Speaker 2: Well forty one then yeah, the other forty.

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Speaker 4: thirty nine, thirty nine. Yep, let's see if you get that,

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Speaker 4: you understand that, you understand that, Yeah, because the Clippers Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you seen what San Antonio is doing now? No,

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Speaker 3: Really well, I don't come to New York as often,

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Speaker 2: And I think it's easy. Names and I'm not naming

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Speaker 3: I just so saying that I think it's it's it is.

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Speaker 3: not you know, we get to play and watch basketball.

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