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Speaker 1: Been waiting on this bro Come on Man legend in

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Speaker 1: the game mc actor man, you name it, he does it,

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Speaker 1: Buster round.

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Speaker 2: Legend, oh Man legend Legends, yeaho legends.

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Speaker 1: General drop the new project in November.

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Speaker 3: Talk to us about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the name of the new album is Blockbuster, And

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a son that produced that actually taught

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Speaker 4: So it's like he ended up evolving in such an

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Speaker 2: The reason why I asked about that because you are

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Speaker 1: The sea is professhing to see because it was once

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I love that it's three generations

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Speaker 5: And and t Pain.

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Speaker 4: You know, he definitely was by my work as well,

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Speaker 4: And you know, when I was younger, I was a

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at all this shit and I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 4: that's how the videos came, Like put your hands on

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Speaker 5: I'm like, if I was Eddie Murphy. I do it

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Speaker 4: Lead the weapon and ship we did the Dangerous video.

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Speaker 4: this is the way I would do it. The Janet

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Speaker 4: So this is how the ideas would come. I'm just

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Speaker 3: Ship, you rap like you rapp into for a score

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Speaker 5: Thank you, bro.

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Speaker 2: That's that's because when you when your videos, when you

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Speaker 2: you know, for people to see it, Like everything you

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Speaker 5: Thank you, bro.

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Speaker 4: We can't shoot a video for every song, especially the

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Speaker 4: to see it from what you're hearing. And I really

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like that's straight out of Compton and

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Speaker 4: the Niggas for Life album. When I listen to those albums,

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Speaker 4: the way they did their skits to the way Dre

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Speaker 4: to the next speaker, Like the Nigga dre Be doing

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Speaker 4: on some real what's this dude that he scores movies

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Speaker 5: Fucking Zimmer d word.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I try to create that and paint that

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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure that the shit ain't

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Speaker 4: I'm just making it for me. I could do this

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Speaker 5: I want to.

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Speaker 4: Affect motherfuckers in the whole world with the shit that

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Speaker 4: You know that this I did right here that was

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Speaker 5: Fucked the whole planet up.

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Speaker 3: Shook the world.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Your style, your energy, your tempo, where did that come from?

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Speaker 4: The combination of it came from absolutely hip hop. You

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Speaker 5: And I think.

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Speaker 4: Prior to the hip hop shit, which I'll get back to,

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Speaker 4: being able to go out the crab. You gotta clean

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Speaker 4: you gotta do your homework. You gotta make sure all

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Speaker 4: and the way that I would pass the time doing

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Speaker 4: shit like that was always listening to the music that

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Speaker 4: all like legendary whalers, the whalers, these is legendary Jamaican

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Speaker 4: and reggae artists. I'm listening to this shit left and

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Speaker 4: in eighty six. They had a battle at this shit

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Speaker 4: called Sting, and these motherfuckers was going so crazy with

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Speaker 4: the speed rap that that's where I first seen it

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Speaker 4: could google it right now. Papastan versus Lieutenant Stitchy. Actually,

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Speaker 4: there's an artist that's out right now that works very

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Speaker 5: His name is Bean.

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Speaker 4: That's Papasan's son, and he's nice, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But Papa San and Lieutenant Stitchy was the first two

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00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 4: that I've ever seen speed rap ninety six. I ended

438
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: up trying that shit in ninety three on the Second

439
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 4: Leader's album on a song called Dealy Vermanda, And that's

440
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 4: the first time I ever did a speed rap. I

441
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: don't know if that was the term, because I don't

442
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: remember calling a speed rap. But it wasn't called on

443
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 4: regular rap shit neither, you know regular, It wasn't no

444
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 4: real name for it. It was just could you do this?

445
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: And I was getting busy, but I wasn't at the

446
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: level that I eventually evolved into now. But it was

447
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 4: really just a combination of the dance soul shit. Because

448
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: when you would watch a shopper during those days in

449
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 4: the eighties, it's a straight rhagonomics that all the crack

450
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: being sold of me wearing a hood. And you would

451
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 4: see these motherfuckers on these DVDs or these videotapes, and

452
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: we would cut school and go to these hookie parties

453
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: and we would go and see the motherfucking bootleggers that

454
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 4: were selling these ships on the street and East Flat

455
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 4: was Brooklyn, and we would get these ships. We'd get

456
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: our a little twenty bag of chocolate townweed. Niggas is rolling,

457
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 4: they shit up and the slowest burning cigar, and you

458
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: in the crib and we at the hookie parties and

459
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: fucking around with the homies, We fucking around with the chicks,

460
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: were watching these shits on the videotape, we smoking everybody bugging.

461
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: You would see these dudes perform. They kicking their feet

462
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: all over the place, they throwing their hands all over

463
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: the place, they wearing mad colorful shit, custom linen shit,

464
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 4: big jewelry hanging down to their shin bone. So all

465
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 4: of that shit that you see Slick Rick doing come

466
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 4: from his Jamaican upbringing. Even though he was born in England.

467
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: Slick Rick Moms is Jamaican. My mother and my father's Jamaican.

468
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 4: A lot of my family live in England too, But

469
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 4: that's that Jamaican shit, that's that dance hall shit. Cool

470
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 4: herk was a Jamaican, is a Jamaican. Excuse me, you

471
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I think that the dance

472
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: hall culture and hip hop is kind of like brothers

473
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 4: in a sense. But yeah, the hip hop shit is

474
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: what gave birth to bust and rhymes, and I incorporated

475
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: everything else that made me who I am culturally and

476
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 4: morally and principally and integrity based into the shit that

477
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: I did. And I just always wanted the motherfuckering have

478
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: fun and get people that feel good energy. So I

479
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 4: was always known for the while out because I was

480
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: the same way at the hookiy party. I was the

481
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: same way in school, was the same way in the

482
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: block when we was hustling with the homies. I was

483
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: the same way all the time. Make motherfuckers laugh. I

484
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 4: always every every gangster movie, but there was Scarface and

485
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: good Fellas. One of the most dangerous niggas was the

486
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 4: niggas that made you laugh. Joe Peshy made niggas laugh.

487
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: He was a loose fucking cannon scarface. He made you laugh.

488
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: Gom here Pelican, Pelican, Pelican to.

489
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 4: Y ass up though, So you know, I was always

490
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: intrigued by the gangster that had a sense of humor,

491
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And I was around a

492
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: lot of motherfuckers that was doing shit that other people

493
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: might have classified or categorized its terrorism. But those were

494
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: the same dudes that raised us. Those were the same

495
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: dudes that taught us integrity. They taught us respect. When

496
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: the parents got off the school bus, I mean the

497
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 4: public transportation, whether it was the B thirty five on

498
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: Church Ave in Detroit or it is you know, the subway.

499
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: You see moms, you know, walking up the block with

500
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: the shopping bags and you blowing tree, nigga, put your

501
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: weed out, homie. Put the cigarette out, homie, and don't

502
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: curse when she walked past us. So you better help

503
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: her with the shopping bags too, And if you don't,

504
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: we're gonna fuck you up when we take upstairs and

505
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 4: we come back outside. So that shit was important, like

506
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: they was crazy to many, but it was very civilized

507
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 4: to us, and it was the same dudes that if

508
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: it ain't have nothing better to offer, they was gonna

509
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: guide you while you was doing your dirt too. But

510
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, if they seen that

511
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: you had potential to do some good shit, the motherfuckers

512
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: would be encouraging you to go over there and do

513
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 4: your good shit. Stay away from this shit because you

514
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 4: might be the one that saved the rest of our asses.

515
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: That you get it, you know what I'm saying. But

516
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: all of that shit combined is what made the buster

517
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: Mom's energy that the people ended up getting and continues

518
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: to receive.

519
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: High school you crossed, Big jay Z special Ed talk

520
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: about that high school experience, all them legens in one vicinity.

521
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: Man, it was two different schools. Me special led chip

522
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: Fuol from food Schnickings. We was in a school called

523
00:28:52,040 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 4: Tilden High School in East Flatbush, Brooklyn. Me Bigg and

524
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: jay Z went to George Westernhouse Technical and Vocational High

525
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: School that was downtown Brooklyn. I went to Tilden after Westernhouse.

526
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: So my mom's I was getting in trouble when I

527
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: was eleven or twelve in Brooklyn, so she decided to

528
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: take me to Long Island when I got to Long Island.

529
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: That's when I met leaders of the new school. By

530
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: the time I turned fifteen, my mother wanted to move

531
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: to Florida. I ain't want to go, so my mom's

532
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: and my pops had a divorce. My pop stayed in Brooklyn.

533
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: I moved back to my father's crab. When I moved

534
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: back to my father's crab, where my father lived was

535
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 4: in the school district where Tilden was. But because my

536
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: father is a licensed electrical contractor, he wanted me to

537
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: go to a trade school, so he ended up for

538
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: naggling it so I could go to George Westernhouse Technical

539
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: and Vocational High School because it was a trade school

540
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: and he wanted me to learn his trade. He wasn't

541
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: supportive of the rap shit at the time, because you know,

542
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: it's old Jamaican father. He on some fuck that rap shit.

543
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: There ain't no future in that. You're gonna learn his trade.

544
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: And I'm the oldest of the two kids that he had,

545
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 4: me and my younger brother. But he was in his head,

546
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: you know, I guess, feeling like he's doing the thing

547
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: that worked for him. It provided a stability for him

548
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: to provide for the family, and he know this, so

549
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: if I learn it, whether I like it or not,

550
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: at least I got some shit to fall back on

551
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: if whatever else I'm trying to do don't work, I

552
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: ain't appreciate that shit till later on, you feel me.

553
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: So that led to a lot of conflict with me

554
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: and my pops. While I'm in school at Westernhouse. Big

555
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: wasn't Roman in school, but he was rhyming. Dangerous motherfucker.

556
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: He just wasn't doing it in school for niggas to

557
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: knew what was going on. Biggie was bubbling a little

558
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: weed in school.

559
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 5: Hole.

560
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: We knew he was rhyming because he was already putting

561
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: joints out with the originators, and everybody was getting to

562
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: the little hustle money. Remember it's the eighties, so it's

563
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: very economics. Ever, so we was all getting to that,

564
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know again, one day,

565
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: me and Hove, I don't know how it got put together,

566
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: but somebody mentioned battle on some speed rap shit. I'm

567
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: gassed thinking that I could fuck with it a little

568
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: bit because I'm seeing this Papa San and this Lieutenant

569
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: Stitchy shit, and I'm already practicing this shit a little

570
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 4: bit in the crib, but I wasn't really ready to

571
00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: display it. But again I still wasn't. I wasn't concerned

572
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: with none of that. I was with whatever smokers, So

573
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: me and who we go, We do our battle thing

574
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: and I took the l that day. That moment is

575
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: what turned me into the motherfucker that nobody don't want

576
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: it with now. Hope don't want to give me no remssage,

577
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: not on the.

578
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: Now.

579
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: But Hope was always just. He was always a fly

580
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: motherfucker in school.

581
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 5: Like he.

582
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: From the jewelry game to the clothes. He was always flying.

583
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 4: He was always smart past his classes. He wasn't fucking around,

584
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: and you know he got to the bread even though

585
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: he was on his job with his school shit. Biggie,

586
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: same shit, everybody was on their shit. I ended up

587
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: dropping out of school because my opportunity came. I was seventeen,

588
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: and my moms came back from Florida because she heard

589
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: what I was doing in the street and she didn't

590
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: want it to be a guilt that she felt she

591
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: was living with if something happened to me, because she

592
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: bounced and let me stay. You know that mother's maternal

593
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: instinct ship, you know what I'm saying. So she ended

594
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 4: up coming back and I moved back to Long Island.

595
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: But before I moved back to Long Island, I went

596
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: to Tilden and I got with Special Led and Chip Full.

597
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: Special Lead was the first one to put the records

598
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 4: out though, and Special Lead was that fly motherfucking.

599
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: I got.

600
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 5: The Redskin.

601
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: And he had the chase was on him and he

602
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: got busy with his pen and he had the most

603
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 4: legendary producer at the time, which was hit Man.

604
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 5: How We tea like you couldn't with Howie T.

605
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: Howie T was doing everything U TFO shit, chub rock shit,

606
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: real rock, saying shit. It was just everything that was

607
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 4: scorching was Howie T and Special Led. He was the

608
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: youngest in charge at the time, and it was just

609
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 4: incredible to be around all of it because these these

610
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: motherfuckers that was getting it Hove and Special Led. Hove

611
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 4: wasn't doing solo shit yet, you know, he was rocking

612
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: with Jazzo and with the Originator Originators. But when when

613
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: Special Led came with his solo shit, it really made

614
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: this belief and this dream that much more tangible to

615
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: me because I wanted that shit so fucking bad. How's

616
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: a little nigga? I was staying at this babysitter when

617
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 4: my mom used to work nights. Her name was on Mitzi.

618
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: She had a son named Alfonso. This nigga was one

619
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: of the Illis graffiti artists ever. So in the night

620
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 4: he would go and bomb the subway, but I would

621
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: watch him for pear in the crab before he would leave.

622
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: Some motherfucker would get these like shoe remember the roll

623
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: on the shoe polysies that you would shake and it

624
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: had to brush on it and wipe it on your

625
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: church sneaks your ship before you go to church. This motherfucker.

626
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: And remember when you used to ride on the subways

627
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 4: and used to see the tags on the subways with

628
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: the thick magic markers and the shit would drip and

629
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: drive with the drip. So he created those some shoe

630
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: polush bottles where he would take a chuck board eraser

631
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 4: and you know in the chuck boardy racer got like

632
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: five strips of the felt for you to erase the chuck.

633
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: He would rip a strip of that ship off and

634
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: bend it. Niggas squeeze that ship and take the brush

635
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: off the shoe polus. He squeezed it in the motherfucking

636
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 4: shoe pilars, put the top back on, shake it, use

637
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: the shoe polus as the ink, and then he had

638
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 4: the That's how he made the fact tip magic marker.

639
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 4: Now I'm watching this motherfucker do that. This is hip

640
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: hop in front of me, so I'm watching him doing this.

641
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: And back then, they had this radio station called WHBI,

642
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 4: and on WHBI it was Africa Islam from the Zulu nation.

643
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 4: Red Alert would spin on there. The Supreme team who

644
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: made Buffalo Gals was on that shit. And this shit

645
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: would come on from like two to five in the morning.

646
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: So a lot of motherfuckers ain't know that station was

647
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: coming on at that time. So I'm so hyped to

648
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: see what Fonzo would come back with story wise and

649
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: picture wise, because they used to take pictures of the

650
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 4: shit that they was doing. I would stay up and

651
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 4: I would make my pause tapes. Sometimes they would play

652
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: their battles with the Cold Crush Brothers against the Furious Five,

653
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 4: or the Cold Rush against the Foursome Seeds, the Kumo

654
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: d Battle against Busy b and these battles was being

655
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 4: played live from the actual battle themselves, so you would

656
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: hit the crowd in the background and the whole shit.

657
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: You know, I was too young to be in the

658
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: street hustling shit because at the time, you know, I'm

659
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: like fucking nine, ten years old. I'm at the babysit

660
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: or whatever. But still I want to come to school

661
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: with the Pumas and Adidas on my nigga. I'm lying

662
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: when I make the pause tape, and when I played

663
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: this shit in school for motherfuckers, motherfuckers will be.

664
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 5: Like, yo, how you get that used to a nigga?

665
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 5: I was dead. I was dead nigga.

666
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: My cousin stuck me in there and son, you want

667
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: to copy five dollars? And I was selling in the

668
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: hustle these tapes that I was making from this underground

669
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: station until I had enough Puma and Adida's money. And

670
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 4: that's how I kind of school on my fresh shit.

671
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: That's that was the start of my hustler mentality. But

672
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: you know, going to school with Big and Hole and

673
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 4: going to school with Chip Full and Special led that

674
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: shit was really dope for me because I was able

675
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: to witness first hand that under eighteen motherfuckers was getting

676
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: to it bad, doing and driving their own fly ship

677
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: to school and read up in school, and because moms

678
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 4: had to sign they deals, bro because they wasn't eighteen,

679
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's what it was

680
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 4: for me. It was just being fortunate enough to be

681
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: at the right place, at the right time and around

682
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 4: the right motherfuckers, like a.

683
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: Magical time, good old day, early nineties.

684
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: Would you say the African Medallion movement around that time,

685
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: how do you.

686
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: Feel the state of hip hop got like that?

687
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: And do you think it'd ever get back to that

688
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: point where it's so much unity and hip hop like

689
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: it was around that time.

690
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 5: I don't know.

691
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: It's hard to say.

692
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: H Yeah, it's definitely hard to say, and I'm gonna

693
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 4: be honest with you, I don't know if it'll ever

694
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: get back to that unless they allow the success to

695
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: lead as an example in that way that will attract

696
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 4: motherfuckers to follow the win, because motherfucker is only attracted

697
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: to the win. So it's acting like a savage is winning.

698
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: Motherfucker's going or followed being savage because they feel like

699
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: that's the way they gonna win. Like I was saying earlier,

700
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 4: I come from the era when it was cool to

701
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: be smart, you know.

702
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 5: What I'm saying.

703
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: So having knowledge itself was important. That's why you had

704
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: brand Nubian and ex Clan and like Kim Shabbaz and

705
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 4: Poor Righteous Teachers and Public Enemy And you would hear

706
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: all of these records on the radio say it was

707
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: so cool to be smooth, to be smart. Then nig

708
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: Guy's cube went from being a gangster to becoming a Muslim,

709
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And even though he always

710
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: wrapped his gangster shit, even with that, you know, he

711
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 4: he felt comfortable enough repping something that was a direct

712
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: exemplification of being a civilized motherfucking man. And you know,

713
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: I think Public Enemy and they success had a lot

714
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: to do with that, and Rock Kim, you know what

715
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and and Wu Tang and you know the

716
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: presence of dudes with knowledge yourself was super strong. And

717
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: I think that in addition to that shit being cool,

718
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 4: it was cool because it was also a success. Motherfuckers

719
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: was able to put platinum records on the wall. Being smart.

720
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers was able to get rich being smart, King King Asiatic,

721
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like and motherfuckers wasn't oding

722
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 4: on drugs and going to jail, right, And we wasn't

723
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: beefing a lot of motherfuckers at the time. We was

724
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: just you ain't really hear about no beef, and if

725
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: there was a beef, motherfuckers addressed each other because you

726
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: ain't have no choice. It wasn't no pop shit through

727
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: the gram because it wasn't no social media. You had

728
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: to be a little more mindful of what you said

729
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 4: because you can run into a motherfucker get your shit

730
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 4: broke for real, you know what I'm saying. The accountability

731
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: was serious, so it was it was you thought before

732
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: you spoke. Nowadays, obviously, the difference is you don't got

733
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: to earn your right to passage to be heard. We

734
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: had to earn that shit back in the day. And

735
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that it was better then, because there's

736
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 4: a lot of shit that's happening now that you can

737
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: benefit from in a way that we wasn't able to

738
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: back then, too, you know what I mean. I just

739
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: think that the evolution and being in tune with the

740
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: evolution and taking the best from the evolution, and being

741
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 4: swift and changeable in order to stay remainable is what

742
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 4: we ultimately got to do, because if you stay in

743
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: the same way in any situation, or you get stagged

744
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: and or stuck, you ain't growing no more. Anything that

745
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: ain't growing no more is dead. So we got to

746
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 4: take the good with the bad. You know, I do

747
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: think it can happen. I just think we had another

748
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: Lauren Hill moment where the shit she did and how

749
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: successful it was doing what she did, and it wasn't

750
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: a bunch of none of the shit that we see

751
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 4: that's happening. And I ain't knocking nobody. But if we

752
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: had another one of those moments right now that could

753
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 4: do the numbers that she did now without having to

754
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: do the shit that girls feel like they got to

755
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: do now in order to get them numbers, you see

756
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 4: a chollion in them starting to follow her as because

757
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: what she did was so magical and it was done

758
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: without having to exploit shit that could eventually be used

759
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: against you with time. So I don't rule out the

760
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 4: possibility of nothing, you know what I'm saying.

761
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 5: I just know.

762
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: All you could do is your part, and you hope

763
00:42:54,680 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: your part is a significant enough contribution and influence to

764
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 4: make a couple of motherfuckers want to do it. The

765
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 4: way you did it, but still make it their own.

766
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

767
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: Who were your rap influences? I knew you said you

768
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: was big fans of LLL and Slick Rick.

769
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: LLL was the dude that made me write my first rhym. Circumstantially,

770
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: I was getting disrespected by the c Brown from leaders

771
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: of the New school when I first started the rhyme.

772
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: I went to Junior High School in Long Island when

773
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: we first moved out there, and you know, a lot

774
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 4: of parents felt like going to the Long Island side

775
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: of suburbs was the way to get your kids out

776
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: of the trouble making mischief they was finding for themselves

777
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 4: in the hood, whether they was from Bronx, Queen Staten Island, Brooklyn, whatever.

778
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: They slid us all along island. You fucked around and

779
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: got the Long Island. You ended up being around a

780
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: bunch of the same motherfuckers from the hood anyway, So

781
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: you ain't escape shit. You ain't escape shit. So you

782
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: out there and brown. You know, when a new kid

783
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 4: from the hood king of the island at the time,

784
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: like they would be little rumblings about the new motherfucker

785
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: from the hood. So at the time I was getting

786
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: the rumbling and brown. Obviously, he ain't want the attention

787
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: to be taken from him. He was he a Queen's kid,

788
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: I'm a Brooklyn kid. He started rhyming in the schoolyard

789
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: after school one day. I want to be in a

790
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: circle of hip hop niggas, so I go over there.

791
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 4: I started beatboxing for him. Small fucker started dissing me

792
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: while I was beatboxing.

793
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, he.

794
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: Was on your beat, expected to sit out of me.

795
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 4: So I'm doing the beat for the small fucker and

796
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: he blacking on me because he wanted to make sure

797
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: that people see the new kid from Brooklyn. Ain't that dude.

798
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: I'm that dude. I ain't had no raps for his

799
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: ass that day. And I'm fucked up because I'm like,

800
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: do I stop doing the beat while this niggas or

801
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: do I just keep doing the beat and not be

802
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 4: on no party poop and shit. So I kept doing

803
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: the beat. I kept it cool. I looked at him

804
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: after he try to dap me talking about he was

805
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: just joking, nah my nigga, IM gonna see you.

806
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 5: The mom went home.

807
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 4: I started listening to mad ll shit and then I

808
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: wrote this rhyme called polse rate and when I wrote

809
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: that rhyme, that rhyme was the rhym. I came back

810
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: the next day and I lost his ass immediately. He

811
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: wanted to be in the same crew, and you won't

812
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: get down with me. You what I'm saying you. So

813
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: we ended up forming a crew. There was a third

814
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: of them, see by the name of Mystery, that was

815
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: down with us. This was before Dinko. Mystery was in

816
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 4: the street. He was hustling by two years passed by,

817
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: were trying to figure out how to get on. He

818
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: ain't had a patience. He like, fuck this rap shit.

819
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: Brown found Dinko, brought Dinko to me. I liked with

820
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: Dinko was doing, and we ended up agreeing to just

821
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: become the group. Malo, which is the DJ, is my

822
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: mother's sister's son, so he's my first blood cousin brought

823
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: him in to be the DJ, but eventually he wanted

824
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: to rhyme too, so it became the four of us,

825
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: and I think we didn't start showcasing Malo Karam until

826
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 4: we got to scenario remix, and then when we got

827
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: that look, it was like fuck that I ain't turning back.

828
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: I like this shine of being in the front as

829
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 4: opposed to being in the back with the two turntables.

830
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's that's that that that.

831
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: Llo influence was important. Slick Rick was one of my

832
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: greatest influences. Rock Kim, he pm D, Big Daddy Kane

833
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: and I say that, oh, Chuck D is my greatest influence.

834
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: He gave me my name, He gave us the name

835
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: leaders of the New School. He taught me everything, like

836
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 4: he's like my big brother and my father when they

837
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 4: came to this rap shit. So I was raised by

838
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 4: some of the most increable motherfuckers and they used to

839
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: let me come pull up on them like I could

840
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 4: come to their crib and ask questions, ride around in

841
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: their cars and ask questions, come to their studio sessions

842
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: and ask questions. Big So they really really embraced and

843
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 4: we were just always super respectful and humbled and grateful

844
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 4: to be around them. And we showed them that you

845
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and I mean, any other act

846
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 4: was blasphemous. You try to disrespect a grandmotherfucking a grand

847
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 4: master and the shit you you was playing yourself. So

848
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 4: you know, again, being fortunate enough to be around the

849
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: right places, right time, right people. Never even know when

850
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: you was ever gonna meet these motherfuckers when they was

851
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: just your inspirations and you meet them and sometimes you know,

852
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: they say, don't meet some of your heroes because they

853
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 4: might let you down. And shit, not one of them

854
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 4: ever let me down.

855
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: Bro.

856
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:56,959
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

857
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: They gave me the nourishment I needed to just become

858
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: greater and great there and to this day, I baked

859
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 4: them up. I pull up on them. I'm finding something

860
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: that we could do together, and that shit ain't never

861
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: gonna stop.

862
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: Tribe called quest take us through a studio session with

863
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: you and the brothers.

864
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 5: Okay, so.

865
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: I got them mother st So some of the funniest

866
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 4: stories would be like, say, you go to the studio

867
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 4: with Q tip, this is the ship that I do

868
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: rest in peace fight all the time because.

869
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 5: Fife Fife dog.

870
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: It was kind of like, you know, like when you

871
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 4: would ask your moms if you could do some ship

872
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 4: and she say no, and then you go ask your

873
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: your father and he'd say yes, and then you you

874
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 4: act like you ain't never had a conversation with your

875
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: mom at all about it, and then that ship might

876
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 4: get them to a little argument. I used to play

877
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: fife and q Tip like that, so I ended up

878
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 4: on mad Tribe songs because I don't think people realize

879
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 4: how important q tip is on the East Coast. Q

880
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: Tip is like the East Coast Doctor Dre. So many

881
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 4: artists and people came through q Tip that if we

882
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 4: was all signed to q Tip, q Tip would be

883
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: the East Coast Doctor Dre financially because all of us

884
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: mean most deaf D'Angelo tribe, so many different things came

885
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 4: through q Tip, and he justever was interested in signing nobody,

886
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 4: which was admirable at the time. I think that shit

887
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 4: crazy than the motherfucker signed everybody because we all grew

888
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 4: through his, his tuteligion, his knowledge for music, his production's ability.

889
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: So every time you go to a tribe session, q

890
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: Tip got the Illis beats on the board him and

891
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 4: Ali Shahid if he didn't like the beat. And at

892
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: the time, motherfuckers is recording on two inch tape reels. Right,

893
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: It ain't like pro tools where you know you could

894
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: you could record ninety nine tracks worth of shit and

895
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: not erase nothing. You get your twenty four tracks worth

896
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 4: the shit you record that shit on the two inch

897
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: tape reel, and if you don't keep that shit in

898
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: the right temperature, the tape could get brittle and be destroyed.

899
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 4: Right this motherfucker Q tip would be called the Illis

900
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 4: Beat and then if he didn't like it, he would

901
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 4: erased the ship off the reel. Niggae one man trash

902
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: is another motherfucking man treasure. If you ain't like it,

903
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 4: give the ship the bus rhymes Dade, let me fuck

904
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: the beat up. But he wouldn't. He wouldn't, he wouldn't

905
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: listen to that. So every time leaders had an argument,

906
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 4: because after scenario I became like one of the most

907
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 4: sought after dudes for features. Everybody wanted that dungeon dragon

908
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 4: shit on their songs, So it started to create a

909
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 4: little conflict internally with leaders. With me and Brown Dinko

910
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: was always fine with it, and the understanding amongst the

911
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 4: crew was, Yo, no matter who get a feature, get

912
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: on that motherfucker record, shout the crew l n s,

913
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 4: and then go pop your shit. The more the more

914
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: features we do between the three of us, the more

915
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 4: we promoting the click. But everybody, as much as they

916
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: said cool to that, it wasn't cool to them if

917
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: they wasn't getting the same amount of feature looks that

918
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 4: I was getting. Long story short. Every time we get

919
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 4: into an argument, I would pune to motherfucking tribe session,

920
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: but I would always hit Q tip. So a couple

921
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 4: of times the nigga Q tip be like, nah, that's

922
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: a private session. I'd be like, yeah, right, nigga fight.

923
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: Flip right down the block from Q tip, I go

924
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: to fife crab fight.

925
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 5: What up, brother?

926
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: What you doing going to the studio? All right, I'm

927
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: coming with you. Come on bus. I ain't telling nigga

928
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 4: nothing about what happened with me and Q Tip. I

929
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: get right in the studio session. Nigga q tips see me.

930
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 4: Nigga just look at me with the frown. Nigga turned

931
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 4: on the beat. I'm here, what we gonna do? Turn

932
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: the beat on? And then I would end up on shit,

933
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god scenario. Well, we was all supposed to

934
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 4: be different scenario, but oh my god. A song called

935
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: one two shit il Vibe for my first solo album,

936
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 4: a song called ah ah Man. There's a song on

937
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 4: the Rhyme and Reason soundtrack that we did, and we

938
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: rhymed over a sample that was done by this producer

939
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: and cash money from Philly, and he chopped up motherfucking

940
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: music from Return of the Dragon Bruce Lee movie, and

941
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 4: me and Q Tip ronde on that, but it's on

942
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 4: the Rhyming Regions soundtrack and I forget the name of it.

943
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: But my point is I ended up on all of

944
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: these records with Tribe and collapse of me and Q

945
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: Tip because a lot of the times I was just

946
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: trying to be where I was welcomed when I felt

947
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 4: unwelcomed by my own crew, you know what I'm saying.

948
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: And those brothers always took me in and made me

949
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: feel like I was a part of they crew, like

950
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 4: a little brother, and they was never hesitant to let

951
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 4: me get on and rock with them. And I think

952
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: it was also entertaining because I was in the studio

953
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 4: going so fucking crazy just to make sure that I

954
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 4: showed my appreciation for them letting me get on shit

955
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: that I would overdose the spas out so could overdose I.

956
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 5: Because I want them to let.

957
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: Me stay, and then I wanted them to let me rock,

958
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: and then I wanted them to let me stay on

959
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 4: the song. And then I always wanted to feel like

960
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 4: I was in their group because I was huge fans

961
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 4: of Tribe. Tribe probably was the first group that made

962
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: me cry when I heard shit that was so fucking

963
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 4: dope that I wish that I did it and was

964
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: mad because I ain't know if I would ever be

965
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 4: able to come up with the shit that they was creating,

966
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: so I would want the shit so bad that I

967
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: would sit there and listen to this shit and just

968
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 4: start crying like I can't believe what the fuck I'm hearing.

969
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 5: Try.

970
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: Probably the first group to do that to me. Chuck

971
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 4: d did that to me. Public Enemy did that to

972
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: me with Rebel without a pause. So you you ever

973
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: heard of the white boy group called Young Black Teenagers?

974
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: You watch the House Party movies, right, yeah, kidn't play right?

975
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 4: Remember the kid Cameron and White with the drags?

976
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

977
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So can you imagine that ship today just

978
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: that name alone.

979
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 5: Young Black Teenagers are all group today.

980
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 4: But see that's the crazy shit, right, Hank, Shockley and

981
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 4: Chuck They was like mad scientists. They would do shit

982
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: that they knew was just gonna fucking give create the

983
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 4: old shit reaction. But they had these group names on

984
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 4: the wall on a bulletin board and they didn't have

985
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: no group members to fill in the group names. So

986
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 4: like they had fucking Son of Berserk and the hell

987
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 4: Raisers as one group, and they had the logos for

988
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 4: these ships because Chuck was ill. I think he went

989
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 4: to college for like animation and illustration or something, so

990
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 4: he drew these logos and came up with these concepts

991
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 4: Kings of Pressure, True Mathematics in the Invisible Empire, Funky

992
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: Frank in the Street Force, leaders of the New School.

993
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 4: Did I say some the Berserk and the hell Racist

994
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 4: all right? So these is all of these group names

995
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 4: they had, and then they had these auditions. So you

996
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: come up there with your group and everybody start rocking

997
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 4: and shit, and they'll look at you. It'll be a

998
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 4: line of motherfuckers waiting to get on. After they'll look

999
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 4: at you and they'll be like, you know what.

1000
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 5: You fit? Funky Frank in the Street Force.

1001
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 4: Your man, you fit True Mathematics, and the Invisible Empire

1002
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: you fit Son of Berserk. Y'all looking at each other

1003
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 4: like these niggas is breaking us up. And depending on

1004
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 4: how bad you wanted it, we'll determine whether or not

1005
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 4: you was gonna do it. We come up there. We

1006
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 4: was the Destiny three em c's my name is chill

1007
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: old Ski. Out this motherfucker name sound trash.

1008
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 3: I know.

1009
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: Chill old Ski was my rap name son and the

1010
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: l shit is At the time, the three part names

1011
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: was the ship.

1012
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 5: You had ll Cool J.

1013
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 4: You had Prince Monkey D from the Fat Boys. You

1014
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: had cool Rock Ski from the Fat BOYSKI the three

1015
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 4: part Nakumo D.

1016
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 5: The three part names was cool human box.

1017
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Human beat box. My ship

1018
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 4: was fucked up though Chill o' ski three part names

1019
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 4: signed trash so so so so we come up there

1020
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: Leaders of the New School. Well as the Destiny three season,

1021
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: we saw the name Leaders of the New School and

1022
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 4: the logo had looked like Raiders of the Lost Art,

1023
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: so Leaders was bent over like Raiders. And then of

1024
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: the Lost Art was of the New School, and we

1025
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: saw that ship and the young black teenager dudes with

1026
00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 4: the Jamal Kid cam he came up there with DJ scribbling.

1027
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 4: These two other white dudes, I forget their name, but.

1028
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 5: We was all cool. At the time.

1029
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 4: They wanted the name Leaders of the New School. And

1030
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 4: when they tried that breakup shit like they wanted to

1031
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 4: put me with Funky Frank in the street. For us,

1032
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 4: I was like, that name don't even sound cool, and

1033
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: I'm not breaking up with the Coup, and the Coup

1034
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 4: ain't breaking up, and we all stood our ground. So

1035
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: they respected it. And it was ill because Hank Shockley

1036
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 4: was like the bad cop and Chuck d was the

1037
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 4: good cop, and that's how they moved on some bomb

1038
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 4: squad shit. Eric Vietnam Shadler was one of the main producers.

1039
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 4: Keith Shockley was one of the main producers. So they said,

1040
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 4: y'all want that name because both groups wanted the name.

1041
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: So hey, come Hank Shockley with his bad cop bullshit. Okay,

1042
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 4: y'all motherfuckers want the name, then y'all need to go

1043
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: home and write a song called funck the old School.

1044
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: What are you talking about. We're not dissing the architects, bro,

1045
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 4: you heard what I said. Go home and write the record.

1046
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: And whoever got the hottest record winsday name. Obviously we

1047
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 4: won record. We won, We got the hot fucking record,

1048
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: disrespecting all of the greats, crying while we're writing this

1049
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: ship emotionally fucked up, and and and I don't know

1050
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 4: where that song is but I hope that ship don't

1051
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 4: never resurface because we violated everybody, Flash Furious five, Crash Crew,

1052
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 4: Cold Crush, Cool Her Africa Band. We dissed everybody the block,

1053
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 4: every block. But you know what, man, it was it

1054
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 4: was a testament to really just it was a testament

1055
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: to how bad we wanted it. Them dudes just was

1056
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 4: wanting They just really wanted to see how how much

1057
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 4: we was willing to go extremely hard to secure the win.

1058
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: And they wanted to see how much we was willing

1059
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 4: to sacrifice and secure the win. And with all of

1060
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 4: that being said, Chuck D said, Yo, that chill o'

1061
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: ski name ain't the shit if you're if you're gonna

1062
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 4: be leaders at the new school, you gotta lead the

1063
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 4: new so you can't hand no old ass out of

1064
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 4: the name or nigga, get that shit out of here.

1065
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 4: Nigga came through because they used to always ask me

1066
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 4: to bust a rhyme too, and why don't you bust

1067
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 4: around for this nigga because they used to love seeing

1068
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: the animation and the aggressive shit the nigga. Chuck D

1069
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 4: one day, He's like, Yo, you and mommy of this

1070
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 4: football player named Busted the Rhymes used to play for

1071
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 4: the Minnesota Vikings in nineteen eighty five. I think he

1072
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 4: was a wide receiver and I was like, word the

1073
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 4: nigga brought the card with the fun fucking athlete on

1074
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: the card and his name was Buster rhymes with an Er,

1075
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 4: and I looked at that shit and I said, this

1076
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 4: shit is hell yo, A real dude named Busta Rhames

1077
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: that played for the Minnesota Vikings. So I took his

1078
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 4: exact name, b us t Er. Never met him then

1079
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 4: when time started to pass, because I ain't like the

1080
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 4: name at first, but I thought it was dope, but

1081
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 4: I just was so much on my I changed from

1082
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: Chiloski to Lord Tiim because me being five percent, that

1083
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 4: was my attribute, its five percent. But it wasn't nothing

1084
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: unique about it because they had so many other guards

1085
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 4: with their names. Is they MC name like Kim Shabaz

1086
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: and King's Son and you know Lord Jamal from the

1087
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 4: Brand Nubian. Everybody had this, you know. So when Chuck

1088
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 4: said b bust Rhymes, he was like, just try it.

1089
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 4: If you don't like it, you could go back to

1090
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: all of them names you got. So I gave it

1091
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 4: a shot and probably like a year or two of

1092
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 4: them bringing us to shows and letting us open up

1093
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: for them. He had a lady named Jessica rozenbloun Hon,

1094
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 4: A man that shared Demi, a man that shit. Demy

1095
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 4: is the widowed wife of Ted Demi, who created your

1096
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 4: MTV reps. He used to run shit in the downtown

1097
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 4: area with the clubs, and that's how we was able

1098
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 4: to perform as leaders of the New School and get

1099
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 4: the buzz going. Dante Ross, who was at Tommy Boy

1100
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 4: who signed Dayla Soul and them, he saw us at

1101
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: a club in the Lower east Side called pay Day

1102
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: one time and he was leaving Tommy Boy to go

1103
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 4: to Electra, and the motherfucker was like, y'all so incredible,

1104
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: I want to sign y'all. But all of that grooming

1105
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 4: in the two three years of being able to go

1106
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 4: out with chucking them and get that schooling and be

1107
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 4: able to ask questions and learn how to really perform

1108
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: all of that shit. It was like the boot camp

1109
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: training that we needed before we started getting in these

1110
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: clubs and getting seen and all of that shit is

1111
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 4: what provided the opportunity to get the deal. So Buster

1112
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: Moms was born December fifteenth, nineteen eighty nine when I

1113
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 4: was seventeen years old, after being.

1114
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna let you let that one down breakout?

1115
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 2: Oh you broke out solo career or was the process

1116
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: of this debut app the debut album to coming and

1117
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: putting together wooah.

1118
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 3: Got you all in check? Talk about that?

1119
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 4: So I was scared to go solo. I was super

1120
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 4: nice with doing the features. And while we're scared, I

1121
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 4: was scared because I was never a solo MC. I

1122
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 4: was always in a group. I was responsible for my

1123
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 4: sixteen bars out the fucking way.

1124
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1125
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 4: When you got to do three sixteens and the chorus

1126
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 4: for twelve to fourteen records, shit is a weight. And

1127
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 4: then you ain't got nobody to really bounce no ideas

1128
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 4: off of. I'm used to having Brown and Dinko around

1129
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 4: and bounce the ideas off of having a nigga tell

1130
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 4: me yo, this shit, dope that shit.

1131
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 5: Ain't you know tweak? These two three bars over here.

1132
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 4: And who I did have those relationships with, like a

1133
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 4: Q Tip or you know, dayline them, I was they

1134
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 4: was busy, so I didn't have the same access to

1135
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 4: them that I would have with my own crew. The

1136
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 4: thing was though that forced me to figure it out

1137
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 4: was as the youngest member of the group, I was

1138
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 4: the first one to have a child, so I had

1139
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 4: to find my way to provide for my child. So

1140
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: that's when I kind of started o ding with the

1141
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: features enroment on everybody's shit, and I used the buzz

1142
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 4: from scenario to sell myself and solicit myself to make

1143
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 4: sure that I ended up on everybody's records because I

1144
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: had to find verse money to keep taking care of

1145
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 4: my kids until I figured out what I was doing

1146
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 4: as a solo artist. Once I got to the solo

1147
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 4: artist opportunity, I remember there's a skit after It's a Party.

1148
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 4: If you listen to the album sequence in its full

1149
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 4: form right and in the skit, it's like you hear

1150
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 4: this band like just randomly playing the instruments like they

1151
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 4: find tuning the instruments. And I acknowledged that and then

1152
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 4: I do some little short ass freestyle. That was the

1153
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 4: very first thing that I recorded for the first solo album.

1154
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 4: And it happened like that because I was shooting Higher

1155
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 4: Learning movie at the time. I get the call from

1156
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 4: Dante Ross and he told me because when they did

1157
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 4: the deal, and initially they signed us as individuals as

1158
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: well as a group. So when we broke up, we

1159
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 4: still was stuck at the label. So he telling me

1160
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 4: that I'm getting a budget that was way more than

1161
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 4: what we got for each leader's album and I ain't

1162
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 4: have to split that shit with nobody. I was excited

1163
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 4: then the motherfucker about that, but I wasn't excited about

1164
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 4: the solo artist responsibility.

1165
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 5: I called Q Tip.

1166
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 4: He come to La Fuck with me and were going

1167
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,919
Speaker 4: to studio. I think we went in like three days straight.

1168
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 4: I couldn't come up with nothing. I'm angry than the motherfucker.

1169
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: And then this brother named was Shad Smith Tumbling Dice.

1170
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 4: He produced the One More Chance remix for Biggie, He

1171
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 4: produced Doing It Well for LL, He produced Woha Got

1172
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 4: You on the Check. He produced Dangerous for me as well.

1173
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 4: The Wuha sample was played in a Rampage session. Rampage

1174
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 4: was working on a song and I think when Shad

1175
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 4: needed a horn sample for this beat, he ended up

1176
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 4: pulling out the Golt McDermott ship, which is the sample

1177
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 4: for the Wuha shit from the Hair Broadway played soundtrack.

1178
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 4: When he plays this shit, I'm like keep that for

1179
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 4: me and shit crazy my nigga, he make the bead lopid.

1180
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 4: I'm riding around in the whip. First week passed, I

1181
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 4: don't come up with nothing. Two three weeks past, I

1182
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 4: don't come up with nothing. A whole month passed, I

1183
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 4: don't come up with nothing, two three months pass, I

1184
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 4: don't come up with nothing, four five, six months past.

1185
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: I don't come up with nothing by the seventh month.

1186
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 4: And I got sued by telling this story on Jay Leno.

1187
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: I never cleared the sample. And I think Sylvia Robinson's

1188
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 4: son he sued me because I told him myself trying

1189
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 4: to give credit. So I'm already paying for it.

1190
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 3: So you can tell it now.

1191
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 5: I can tell it again freely.

1192
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 4: Rest in peace to Sylvia Robinson's son too, because he

1193
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: passed away shortly after he was in the room with

1194
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 4: me while I was forced to make a deposition than

1195
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 4: any event. Read Alert was doing the Old school at No.

1196
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: One on Hot ninety seven. He plays the eighth one

1197
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 4: direcord by the sugar Hill Gag, the Lorns and Ron

1198
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 4: Yes then Ron my neck woo ha got you all

1199
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 4: the check A let's scream a less shout let's turn

1200
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 4: this function now to keep keep it on.

1201
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 5: I heard that shit I called a shard, I said,

1202
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 5: I got it.

1203
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,839
Speaker 4: Meet me in the studio tonight. Went to the studio,

1204
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 4: made that shit, the hook, wrote the verses on the spots.

1205
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 4: Song done. We put the shit out. That shit went

1206
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 4: platinum in six weeks. When I started to see the

1207
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 4: money from them shows and the money from them royalties

1208
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 4: and the publishing deals and all that shit, I said,

1209
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 4: I like this solo shit, and I like the responsibility

1210
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 4: of a being a solo artist. And if this shit

1211
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 4: takes seven months to write, but pay like this, fuck it.

1212
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 5: But going.

1213
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 4: But you know, once you taste the steak coming from

1214
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 4: canned food, bro that motherfucking tastes butter, and that palate change.

1215
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 4: It's like my whole way of thinking started to change.

1216
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm taking care of my family. I'm

1217
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 4: watching baby mom smell get bigger. I'm watching my mom

1218
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 4: smile get bigger. And that first thing I did with

1219
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 4: the success of that told my moms quit a job.

1220
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 4: And once she quit a job and helped me run

1221
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 4: the rest of my shit. That's probably the most rewarding

1222
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 4: feeling that I have, because that's the first thing I did,

1223
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 4: Like before I bought myself jewelry and cars and all

1224
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 4: of that, I took care of my mom's because she

1225
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 4: signed my deal when I was seventeen. I could have

1226
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 4: woke up one day and did some shit to piss

1227
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 4: her ass off. It would have never been a buster

1228
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 4: rhyme signature in that contract, and then y'all would have

1229
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 4: never knew me, and I'd have never been sitting here

1230
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 4: with all the smoke.

1231
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 5: So big up to Mom Dukes.

1232
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dope.

1233
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: What goes in obviously you spoke to you know, your

1234
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: greatness across the board, but obviously on features. What goes

1235
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: into hopping on someone else's song and in your thought

1236
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: process because you have so many, you know, songs you

1237
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: hopped on that you made magical, not this.

1238
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: Track, that's what you're going on saying, yeah, you're gonna

1239
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: go out, but not on this one.

1240
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 5: Not this Yeah.

1241
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: For me, it's always respectful competition number one. But we

1242
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: are always battling, just respectfully battling. You know, I'm gonna

1243
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 4: get on your record, bro, I'm gonna give you the

1244
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 4: biggest hug and a pound, and we're gonna joke and

1245
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 4: laugh Willfore it's time to work doing the work. I'm

1246
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 4: coming for blood. I don't want no friendship. Don't talk

1247
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 4: to me nothing. When the show is over with the

1248
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 4: bars in that booth, Nigga, we could be the best

1249
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 4: kumbaya in the motherfucking world after that. But that's what

1250
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 4: it is on every song, and that's what it's been

1251
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 4: every time, And for me, I think it's we all

1252
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 4: got this instinctually. Any click we move with y'all playing

1253
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 4: on a team, who the fuck want to be heard by?

1254
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 4: You don't want to hear nobody talking about you the

1255
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 4: weakest link in no situation, not on a team, when

1256
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 4: you playing ball, not in a beef. If y'all got

1257
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 4: to defend each other in a fight, not in a

1258
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 4: motherfucking nothing, you don't want to be classified as the

1259
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 4: weakest link. And it's really those same instincts I think

1260
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 4: we all just culturally have been raised with. You know

1261
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I just apply that shit in every

1262
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 4: aspect of my life. And when it come to these

1263
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 4: records and how good the game has been to me

1264
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 4: and these opportunities have been to me, I don't play

1265
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 4: with it.

1266
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 5: And another way of.

1267
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 4: Showing the most high and showing the person that gave

1268
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 4: me the opportunity to rock with them that I appreciate

1269
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 4: it by putting my best fucking foot forward.

1270
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: Talk about some of your your your classic collapse. I mean,

1271
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking how well they did at the time, But

1272
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: can you imagine this TikTok generation right now?

1273
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it would have been stupid.

1274
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Now, ain't gonna front some of this TikTok generation.

1275
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 1: They still got my definitely, definitely, definitely tell us a

1276
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: little bit about each We're gonna try to run through these.

1277
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: Put your hands where my eyes can see. I mean,

1278
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: one of the coldest beats ever.

1279
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 4: Thank you, cam. Big up to my man Schamelo d

1280
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 4: Rest in peace. Shamelo passed away a couple of years ago.

1281
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 4: He made the beat with my brother Buddha and big

1282
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 4: up to my man Gerald odham a ka fab Ries.

1283
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 4: He brought the beat to the studio after they made it.

1284
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: So that beat is one of those beats that was

1285
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 4: evolution point for me because it's probably one of the

1286
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 4: first songs that y'all heard me on on my calm

1287
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 4: shit you know what I'm saying, And I ended up

1288
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 4: roming on the record on some calm shit. Because I

1289
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 4: went to a Diddy session one night at Daddy's house

1290
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 4: and back at the time, Diddy told me he was like,

1291
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 4: my nigga, why don't you just rhyme on your calm voice?

1292
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 4: My nigga, Like, bitches don't want to do that like

1293
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 4: a dungeon dragon shit with you all the time on

1294
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 4: no song. Bitches don't want to do that, my nigga.

1295
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 4: So just calm your voice. Talk to the chicks, bro,

1296
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 4: talk to them like talk on this beat. That ship

1297
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 4: got room to breathe on it. You ain't gotta be

1298
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 4: doing aways, killing with the flow and killing with your

1299
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 4: regular voice.

1300
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 5: You got a good You got one of them James

1301
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 5: Arl Jones voices when you're talking regular, and I listened.

1302
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 4: To in fact, Joe was dead too. Joe was dead

1303
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 4: in Fat Joe. He was chiming in and pretty much

1304
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 4: telling me the same shit. That was the record that

1305
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 4: set the tone for sure.

1306
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 3: What's it going to be with the lovely Miss Janet

1307
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: Jackson again?

1308
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 5: Buster Mom on some calm shit. I just combined it

1309
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 5: with the speed wrap.

1310
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 4: But that song came about as a result of Janet

1311
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 4: touring for the Velvet Rope album that she did. She

1312
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 4: was on Hot ninety seven with Angie Martinez at the

1313
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 4: time when Angie was there before she went to Power

1314
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 4: one on five and she was doing an interview with

1315
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 4: Angie and I'm driving from Long Island to the city.

1316
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 4: And at the time, I owned a Toyota fore Runner.

1317
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 4: It was my second whip that I ever had. It's

1318
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 4: ninety eight. I also had a Benz and I didn't

1319
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 4: drive the Benz this particular day because I was in

1320
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 4: a rush and I had twenties on the Benz and

1321
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 4: I was always running into a situation when you hit

1322
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 4: a pothole. Was the most annoying ship. So Angie asks

1323
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 4: Janet what rappers has she never worked with that she

1324
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 4: would like to work with. She said, Bust the Rhymes

1325
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 4: nigga almost.

1326
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 5: Crashed my ship.

1327
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 4: I pulled over and I'm on the belt Parkway. I

1328
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 4: pulled over and I immediately called Mona Scott Young from

1329
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 4: Violator and I said, Mona, you need to get in

1330
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 4: touch with Janet now. She said High ninety seven. She

1331
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 4: said she want to work with Bust the motherfucking Rhymes

1332
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 4: until her I got the perfect song for it, and

1333
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 4: I ain't have no song so we had to find

1334
01:15:54,439 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 4: a song, and a brother named Delight produced the record,

1335
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 4: and he got a young lady, I forget her name

1336
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 4: to write the hook Pin the Hook for Janet. When

1337
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 4: I heard it, I fell in love with the shit

1338
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 4: immediately because nothing had sounded like it at the time

1339
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 4: on the radio, and it was something that it actually

1340
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 4: plays into me being able to speed rap on it perfectly.

1341
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 4: So I immediately got the record. Mona got in touch

1342
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 4: with Janet, sent it to Janet. I didn't write the

1343
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 4: rhymes yet.

1344
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 5: We pick us, We pick a.

1345
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 4: She picks the studio session and it's somewhere in a

1346
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 4: different state from New York. And we go to the

1347
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 4: studio and I researched everything that Janet likes, what type

1348
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: of flowers she like, the type of candles she like,

1349
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 4: with the fragrances is that she like, and we dressed

1350
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 4: the fucking studio up exactly with all of the shit

1351
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 4: that she likes. Her security came, They advanced that shit.

1352
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 4: They walked around searched every fucking room like they was

1353
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 4: screening and looking for fucking wire taps and bugs everywhere

1354
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 4: some president ship. This was probably like three four hours

1355
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 4: before she showed up. And then when the queen showed up,

1356
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: I gave her a nice brief greeting, hugged her, asked

1357
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 4: if she needed anything, and left her with the track

1358
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 4: with all the vocals on it for her to sing

1359
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 4: them over. And I'm bounced. I ain't even want to

1360
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: be around her long enough to do some shit wrong.

1361
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm not fucking this Mombrian, not even by accident. Right,

1362
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 4: Piermman ain't nothing fashion than pem money, Right, I got

1363
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 4: the funk about it here, hunfashioned pume.

1364
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1365
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 4: I went in another room next door and I wrote

1366
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 4: all the verses and then I spit them. Then I

1367
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 4: came back and I let the engineer imported in a session, revived,

1368
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 4: listened to it a couple of times.

1369
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 5: She was happy.

1370
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 4: I was super bugging out, couldn't believe this moment was real.

1371
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 4: And then when it came video to shoot time and

1372
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 4: that terminated, two movie came out and I saw that shit.

1373
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, this is all that liquidy make you

1374
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 4: wet shit wet dream all at talk called Hype Williams.

1375
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 4: I said, this is what we're doing. Big Bro called

1376
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 4: Sylvia roon. I was scared to have that conversation because

1377
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 4: when Hype sent the budget back. That shit was two

1378
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 4: point four million dollars for that video to him, most

1379
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 4: expensive hip hop video ever shot to this day, and

1380
01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 4: that was in fucking ninety eight.

1381
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 3: That's what I say.

1382
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 4: You can imagine that terminated two million and fucking and

1383
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:11,480
Speaker 4: fucking Titanic. The special effects company that did the Titanic

1384
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 4: movie was called Digital Domain.

1385
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 5: They did the effects for that video.

1386
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 4: O d overcharging niggas because they won all them fucking

1387
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 4: Oscars for the Titanic movie at that time, so there

1388
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 4: wasn't no negotiating with them.

1389
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 5: You just got robbed.

1390
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 4: I mean, the finished product was phenomenal, but it's so

1391
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 4: funny when you compare the prices to the shit that

1392
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 4: they charged me then to amazing shit that I'm able

1393
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 4: to do now. Of course, times is different and technology

1394
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: advanced a lot, but it was crazy when you did

1395
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 4: the research to find out what the fuck they was

1396
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 4: charging you for a while and they charging you like

1397
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 4: that later on, not too long after neither, I would

1398
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 4: say two three years ago. I just was starting to

1399
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 4: be really confused about why did I get charged like this?

1400
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 4: And you know, we was getting so much money, we

1401
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 4: didn't even care. Man, it was like, fuck a royalty.

1402
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 4: You know, we're getting publishing deal money millions, and were

1403
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 4: getting touring millions, and we're getting all type of other shit.

1404
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 4: It was just like whatever. But again, that was an

1405
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 4: unbelievable moment and Janet, by the time it got time

1406
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 4: to shoot the video, all of that nervous shit was

1407
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 4: out the window because now I'm fright in front of

1408
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 4: the camera.

1409
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 5: I gotta make it look like that's my wife. Wasn't

1410
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 5: That wasn't hard. That wasn't hard at all. Is Bard

1411
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 5: a big up to Janet Jackson.

1412
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 4: Night Front twenty twenty three was the first time that

1413
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 4: we got to perform that record together together in twenty

1414
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 4: five years, because last year was the twenty fifth anniversary

1415
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 4: of that song and that album. So thank you to

1416
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 4: Janet for bringing me out at the garden where I

1417
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 4: was able to celebrate twenty five anniversary of that song

1418
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 4: in my backyard in New York, and I tried to

1419
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 4: recreate the whole environment in the studio because after the song,

1420
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 4: I bought all of them flowers in the same shit

1421
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 4: that we had in a stewl on stage to give

1422
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 4: her her flowers.

1423
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, br I love it.

1424
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: I know what you want with flip mode in my

1425
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,839
Speaker 1: childhood crushed Mariah, How was that experience?

1426
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie that shit was an incredible

1427
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 4: fucking experience too. Yo, I'm gonna tell you what was

1428
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 4: bug me? And split was on a tour bus and

1429
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 4: I'm not I wasn't. I'm still not the biggest fan

1430
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 4: of flying, but I really was fucking not fucking with

1431
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 4: the flying. And I had built a tour bus in

1432
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 4: two thousand and three when I first went on tour

1433
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 4: with fifty and jay Z for the Rock to Mic tour,

1434
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 4: and I built a brand new bus from the frame and.

1435
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 5: We was driving back and forth from New York.

1436
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 4: To LA so much said I think, I think, I

1437
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 4: think I put like one point seven million miles on

1438
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 4: this engine. And I had a man that was doing

1439
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 4: the maintenance and he was our tour bus. It was

1440
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 4: a couple, Cisco Kid and Marta Kid, and they're from Florida.

1441
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 4: Well they're from Ohio, but they lived in Florida. Cisco

1442
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 4: rest in peace. But he up kept the maintenance on

1443
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 4: that bus so phenomenally that we never had to put

1444
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,799
Speaker 4: a new engine in that ship. Never At motherfucking Cisco

1445
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 4: was a genius with them buses.

1446
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 3: That bus probably Fred Sam from uh to yard right now.

1447
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 4: Probably said one point seven million miles gre but but

1448
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 4: but but The crazy shit is we riding on the bus.

1449
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 4: I got a beat tape from Rick Rock, Big Up

1450
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 4: the Rick Rod from the bed, and he sends me

1451
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 4: this beat tape and were vibing on the bus and

1452
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 4: were drinking and a shuit and we going cross country

1453
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 4: and the beat came on and we just me and

1454
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 4: split bugging out. And I think I came up with

1455
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 4: the melody first and then the words came later. But

1456
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 4: when I sent it to Mariah, she was with it

1457
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 4: off rip. The crazy part, though, is she goes on

1458
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 4: these vocal rests periods where she don't talk at all,

1459
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 4: so that you know she don't fuck with a vocal cause,

1460
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 4: because over a period of time it's not abnormal for

1461
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 4: US artists to get PALOPs on your vocal cards. I

1462
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 4: had to have a vocal cord surgery to remove PALOPs

1463
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 4: because the PALOPs started to get so big they could

1464
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 4: block your breathing passage. And at the time when that

1465
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 4: shit was happening to me, combined with being overweight, when

1466
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 4: I was super out of shape, a shit had blocked

1467
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 4: ninety percent of my breathing passage, so I had to

1468
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 4: get an emergency surgery. And she obviously does the smart

1469
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 4: thing so she can avoid that with the vocal rest.

1470
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 4: So at the time when we needed to record the record,

1471
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 4: we couldn't speak to her on the phone, could only

1472
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 4: text her because she was only gonna communicate by writing,

1473
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 4: So we had to wait until she did her vocal rest,

1474
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 4: which took like four weeks or some shit, and when

1475
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 4: that was done, then she was ready to sing.

1476
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 5: And when she sang that shit, she bodied it like.

1477
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 4: Super quick, sent it right back, put flip Mode on it,

1478
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 4: because at the time I was actually setting up a

1479
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 4: flip Mode album that we was putting out because we

1480
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 4: was on Jay Records Clive Davis label at the time,

1481
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 4: and I had did a label deal there and had

1482
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 4: a project that was almost done with flip Mode. But

1483
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 4: after this album, which came out in two thousand and three,

1484
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 4: I had did a two album deal at Jay Records,

1485
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 4: so I put out The Genesis in two thousand and one,

1486
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 4: which Kavas was on, and then Yeah, this song was

1487
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 4: on the two thousand and three album. Two thousand and three,

1488
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 4: when my deal term was up after six months of

1489
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 4: the release. I ended up signing The Aftermath with Dre

1490
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 4: and got a label deal over there too. So when

1491
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 4: I left Jay Records, they dead at the Flip Mode album.

1492
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: But I was using the Mariah song as like a

1493
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 4: single setup Flip Mode shit, so we could just bust ass.

1494
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 4: And that's pretty much how that played out. But long

1495
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 4: story short, Mariah really she always pretty much delivers for

1496
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 4: us whenever we we need her.

1497
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 5: She's dead.

1498
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 4: Whenever she needs me, I'm there. She just actually brought

1499
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 4: us out to rock the Garden with her as well

1500
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 4: for her Christmas. You know how she turn it up

1501
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 4: and give it up for Christmas every year. Shit, But

1502
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 4: she did. She did a couple the sholds at the

1503
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 4: Garden and brought me out to fuck it up with

1504
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 4: her and I had a great time.

1505
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 5: Riah, we love you, queen.

1506
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: Breaking that Grammy nominated live performance is incredible.

1507
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: You talk to us about that.

1508
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 4: Before I got to Aftermath, I was shooting schaff in

1509
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 4: Canada and Dre was shooting training day at the same time.

1510
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 3: Was that up there too?

1511
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: Were just shooting at the same time.

1512
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 4: We was both shooting at the movies. Wasn't out yet

1513
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 4: I was shooting Shaft, he was shooting training Day. We

1514
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 4: had a schedule where the off days that coincided with

1515
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 4: each other. And I think that the Grammys right before

1516
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 4: those movie productions was greenlit. I've seen Dre. Drey was

1517
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 4: with a brother named Mike Lynn at the time. Mike

1518
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,799
Speaker 4: Linn was helping Dre, you know, run with his aftermath

1519
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 4: shit on the executive level and just going out there

1520
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 4: and working with a lot of producers and bringing them

1521
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,839
Speaker 4: to the table so that you know, Drake could scoured

1522
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 4: through the producers to see who was worth bringing on

1523
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 4: his production team. Mike Lynn was with Dre when I

1524
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 4: had my moms at this particular Grammys with me.

1525
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 5: As we was leaving seeing Dre and Mike Lynn.

1526
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 4: My mom saw Dre first, and I wanted to introduce

1527
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 4: my moms to Dre, and then I also wanted to

1528
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 4: big up Dre.

1529
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 5: Mike Lynn.

1530
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 4: He kind of made the whole get together official. I

1531
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 4: tell Mike Lennon at the time, I was leaving like

1532
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 4: I was a free agent from Jay Records, and I'm like, Yo, Dre,

1533
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 4: whatever we gotta do to get in the studio together,

1534
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make my and the Debuggain happen. I don't

1535
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 4: give a fuck where we gotta go. Dre said, cool,

1536
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 4: So I'm in Canada. I'm shooting chaff. I had these

1537
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 4: off days. I called Dray to see what his availability was.

1538
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 4: He had off days. I get to LA. He said,

1539
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 4: I got two days. I said, how many songs could

1540
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 4: we do? He said as many as you could record.

1541
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 5: Wow.

1542
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 4: I said, what I get the fucking LA. I go

1543
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 4: to the studio. I slept in that bitch two days,

1544
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 4: no showering, on nothing, and like when niggas just hustling

1545
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 4: back in the Reaganomics, right in a drug spot, Nigga,

1546
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 4: you ain't leaving no money unaccounted for.

1547
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 5: I stayed in that motherfucking studio.

1548
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 4: He put a beat after beat after beat after beat

1549
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 4: out of five songs in two days. Three of them

1550
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 4: ended up on the Genesis album One Call Holler, One

1551
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 4: Call Bounce, and Break Your Neck. Truth Hurts is doing

1552
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 4: the background vocals on Breaking Neck. And when we did

1553
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 4: the record, Dre said, this is your single and he

1554
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 4: chose it. He knew and it's one of the biggest

1555
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 4: records that I made today. Just sales wise and everything

1556
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 4: at radio and everything like Dre always you know his

1557
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 4: ear is he got bionic ears, Like he hears shit

1558
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 4: different from every regular human in the planet, and then

1559
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 4: everybody falls in line with the way he hears the shit,

1560
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 4: because I mean, as we all know, when you hear

1561
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 4: dre finished product, that shit got a crystal sparkle on

1562
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 4: that bitch. It's just so, it's so, it just sounds

1563
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 4: different from anybody else's finished product. So Dre is my

1564
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 4: favorite producer in the planet, along with J Dillar, rest

1565
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 4: in piece to J Dillar and Q Tip Oh can't

1566
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 4: forget DJ scratch too, my full favorite producers in the planet.

1567
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 4: I got other producers that I love, but those are

1568
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 4: my full favorite. Oh can't forget the Big up Knots too.

1569
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 4: It's the ruler from Virginia, Swiss Beach, tipulated paral.

1570
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 5: I can't stop the sad.

1571
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 3: Grace.

1572
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: Last, but not least, look at me now, Chris Brown, Wayne,

1573
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: how that track come together? Because that's different generations.

1574
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you how that shit came together for me.

1575
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 4: I'm in Platinum Studios, which is Jerry Wonder Studio in

1576
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 4: Midtown Manhattan. I was working with the artists at the

1577
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 4: time who we had did a remix for his song,

1578
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,759
Speaker 4: and on the remix there's a few MC's and Nelly

1579
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 4: was one of them on the song. I think the

1580
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 4: methad man was on the Cameron was on it. So

1581
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 4: Nellie coincidentally was working in the room next door to

1582
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 4: the room that I was in. Were on the same floor.

1583
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 4: So when I found out Nellie was over there, I

1584
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 4: go over there. I dap him up. I say, yo,

1585
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 4: we mixing the record, so you should come over and

1586
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 4: approve how your vocal sound before we print the mix.

1587
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 5: He goes cool.

1588
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 4: He come over to the room, he hear the verse,

1589
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 4: He happy with it. He go back in his room.

1590
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 4: When he go back in his room, look at me now.

1591
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 4: Beat is playing, but I couldn't hear it the way

1592
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 4: you obviously gonna hear it when you walk in the room.

1593
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 4: But that eight of waights is so heavy on that beat.

1594
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 4: This shit was rumbling through my room and I was like,

1595
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 4: what the fuck this dude is playing in his room.

1596
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 4: So I just got on my nosy shit and I

1597
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 4: crashed the session. And when I got in there, Breezy

1598
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 4: was in there. He playing look at Me Now for Nelly,

1599
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 4: and he's speed wrapping the nelly, and I looked at

1600
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 4: it Breezie in the jokingly manner, like, Nigga, you don't

1601
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 4: know what you're fucking doing with that speed rass shit.

1602
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 4: Let me sure you how to keep the dice rolling

1603
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 4: when you're doing that thing.

1604
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 3: That's exactly what.

1605
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:54,919
Speaker 5: Yes, that's exactly.

1606
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 4: That's how it ended up on the song because when

1607
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 4: I was saying it to him jokingly, he was like,

1608
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 4: what you just say? I said, Nigga, you don't know

1609
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 4: what you're doing with the speed rap shit, and you

1610
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 4: need to let me show you how to keep the

1611
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 4: dice rolling when you're doing that thing over there, homie,

1612
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 4: because you don't know what you're doing with that day Nigga.

1613
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 4: He goes, I need you to say that shit again

1614
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 4: to me while I'm speed rapping. Interrupt me say that

1615
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 4: shit and then just go crazy. I said, fine, give

1616
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 4: me the beat. I go back in my room, scribble

1617
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 4: a verse up. Two hours done, I record the shit.

1618
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 4: I come back in the room. I had like towards

1619
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 4: the end of the verse, I would say, like within

1620
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 4: the last six bars, I had like two or four

1621
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 4: bars where I kind of slowed it down from the

1622
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 4: speed rap because I felt like I owe deeds so

1623
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 4: much and I might need to let niggas get a

1624
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 4: breather before they catch a seizure in this bitch. So

1625
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 4: I played it again for him. He goes, why you

1626
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 4: slow it down? I need you to spas through the

1627
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 4: whole shit. You going crazy? Could you just make that adjustment?

1628
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 5: Please?

1629
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 4: Bus I'm like this nigga telling me I go write

1630
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 4: my shit. Fuck it, I'm gonna go. I got you, King,

1631
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 4: And when then I made the adjustment, I came back.

1632
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 4: That was the end of that next thing I heard

1633
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 4: when the record is finished, no Nelly on the song.

1634
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 4: Little Wayne got on the song. So I hit a record.

1635
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 4: I heard Little Wayne go bad like that too. I

1636
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 4: was like, this shit crazy. Time to shoot the video.

1637
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 4: We shoot the video, video, come back looking phenomenal. I'm like,

1638
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 4: this shit is crazy. Did I know that the motherfucking

1639
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 4: world was going to react like they did to it?

1640
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 5: Nope.

1641
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna tell you who was very, very instrumental

1642
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 4: in that record becoming what it was besides it being dope,

1643
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 4: And I have to credit this woman would be in

1644
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 4: the first one to probably ever invent the challenge that

1645
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 4: now exists on social media. When everybody want to do

1646
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 4: a challenge, okay, and she wasn't even doing it as

1647
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:08,440
Speaker 4: a challenge, but it evolved into that. When Angie Martinez

1648
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 4: was on Hot ninety seven and she was decorating her

1649
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 4: motherfucker dressing her Chinese food with the duckt sauce and

1650
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 4: the hot sauce, and while she was doing it, she

1651
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 4: was spitting the shit and DJ enough was behind he,

1652
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 4: DJ mister C was behind her, and like the whole

1653
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 4: staff was behind her, turning up and she just did

1654
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 4: spitting the shite a way and get away and get

1655
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 4: a wing, knowing where and every day it ain't want

1656
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 4: to hunt me, just know that. And she blacking while

1657
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 4: she dressing the food. It made it seem like, damn,

1658
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 4: a woman learned this shit before me. And I'm a

1659
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 4: dude and a kryme. And when that shit hit the internet,

1660
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 4: it just spread like wildfire, and everybody else jumped in

1661
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 4: and wanted to do what she is doing. So Angie

1662
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,640
Speaker 4: Martine is the voice of New York as far as

1663
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm concerned, is the founder of the challenges learning look

1664
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 4: at Me Now. First, it definitely had motherfuckers and they

1665
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 4: feeling that a woman got it together before dudes.

1666
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 3: Bean shown.

1667
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 4: Chico Bee too, because he killed killed Angie got him first.

1668
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 4: Chico Bean, you definitely did your thing. But I'm gonna

1669
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 4: tell you. I'm gonna tell you who else. What's his name? Man?

1670
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 4: Let me yo, pass me, pass me look on my

1671
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 4: Graham real quick. I just got a big up this

1672
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 4: dude because this is the most recent dude, the body

1673
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 4: at the most and I've seen a married couple kill it.

1674
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 4: I've seen a wife do it at at at performing.

1675
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was their wedding or whatever.

1676
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 4: But you see the dude that's on the that's on

1677
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 4: my gram. He's he did this ship like he was

1678
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 4: an auctioneer. I think I seen you've seen that, right.

1679
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 4: I think I said, Yo, that ship was so crazy

1680
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 4: for the bro that he actually put up a post

1681
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 4: about how that shit got like thirty forty million views.

1682
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 4: And when I posted it, it helped, it helped contribute

1683
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 4: to the to the way it went viral for him

1684
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 4: so much. I just want to acknowledge his name correctly.

1685
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 4: You got you got it, you got you got the post, broke,

1686
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 4: give me my give me your phone, all right, here go.

1687
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 4: His name is Crank Lucas. Crank Lucas. Crank Lucas name

1688
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 4: Crank Lucas. Crank Lucas is incredible. I like that Crank Lucas, Like.

1689
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 3: Hey, but he was a bunch of different characters. He

1690
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 3: was like three characters.

1691
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 5: That was hard. He killed that ship.

1692
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 3: That's hard.

1693
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Obviously getting a chance to meet or you know, become

1694
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,759
Speaker 1: friends with Biggie early. Give us one of your favorite

1695
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: Biggie stories.

1696
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 4: One of my favorite Biggie stories. One day there was

1697
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 4: an accountant by the name of Bert Poddell. Burt Podell

1698
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,600
Speaker 4: was like the dude that everybody used to have to

1699
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 4: go and pull up to to get their bread from

1700
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 4: when it came to like labels and shit. He was

1701
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 4: like the top shelf accountant for all of like the

1702
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 4: big executives at the time. I've had to go to

1703
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 4: get some of my bread from features that I've done

1704
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 4: from Burt Podell. It was one day Biggie was over

1705
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 4: there getting a feature. We're not getting a feature, getting

1706
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 4: a check from Burt Podell, and we was riding back

1707
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,759
Speaker 4: to Brooklyn and I ended up going to Burt Padell.

1708
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 4: I saw big yet ask Biggie where he was going.

1709
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 4: He said, he was going to Brooklyn. I said, you

1710
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 4: need to ride. He said yeah, So he came in

1711
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,719
Speaker 4: and wh with me. We jet back. We go to Brooklyn,

1712
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 4: I go to his crib. When we get to his crib,

1713
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 4: now he let me here the Ready to Die album,

1714
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 4: the fucking crazy shit is. While we did, he told

1715
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 4: one of his niggas to let everybody know that he

1716
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 4: got the Ready to Die album done and he about

1717
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 4: to give it to everybody in the street. So niggas,

1718
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 4: you know, here already popping with the fucking kicking the

1719
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 4: Door record and all of these shits is playing as

1720
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 4: like the singles to build a momentum or whatever. And

1721
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 4: biggie feature game was crazy because did he had him

1722
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 4: on one twelve shit and total shit and everybody else shit.

1723
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 5: So it was like extremely.

1724
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 4: Intriguing and strange to me at the time because this

1725
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 4: is during the time where you would beat the fucking

1726
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 4: bootlegger up for selling your shit for five dollars. Biggie

1727
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,799
Speaker 4: had the hood lined up in front of his building

1728
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 4: like a crack spot, but he was giving it to

1729
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 4: niggas for free. He wasn't even selling it. And I

1730
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 4: couldn't understand, bro, what are you doing niggas say your

1731
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 4: bus I'm gonna make sure that the nigga that don't

1732
01:38:54,400 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 4: got my album look like he the hater. That was

1733
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 4: the illest way of thinking at the time, because it

1734
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 4: was brilliant marketing. You already get promo shit to give

1735
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 4: the DJs and certain motherfuckers for free anyway, because you

1736
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 4: need them to play it. The advertise that your shit

1737
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 4: is out, and that is hot, right. He took it

1738
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 4: to a whole of the place. He had the double

1739
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 4: cassette JVC box in the crib and he was dubbing

1740
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 4: his own fucking tape and just giving the shit away

1741
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 4: for free, free promotion, free promotion. It was one of

1742
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 4: the most brilliant marketing schemes I've ever seen. And that

1743
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 4: was the one that was one of those incredible moments.

1744
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 4: One other incredible moment, and I never told this story,

1745
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 4: not on the record. So there's a song in the

1746
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 4: middle of the Biggie of the Tupac Beef and he

1747
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 4: recorded the verse in my studio session. The studio was

1748
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 4: called Soundtracks Studio is located Broadway between twenty first and

1749
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 4: twenty second Street. At the time, I thought it would

1750
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 4: be brilliant to have these three MC's on a J.

1751
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 4: Dillar Bet as I mentioned, he's one of my favorite

1752
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 4: producers to ever exist. First studio session it was at

1753
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 4: a studio called Unique Studios, around the block from Quad

1754
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 4: where Tupac got shot. This was a studio that Easymo

1755
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,759
Speaker 4: Be another one of my favorite producers. He produced Flavor

1756
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 4: in Your Ear and many other classics, the most are

1757
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 4: Ready to Die. He used to work in the studio

1758
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 4: a lot, so I ended up booking the session and

1759
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 4: the song was supposed to have nas method Man, Biggie

1760
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 4: and Buster Rhems on the same record. J. Dillar Bet,

1761
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 4: I got a ten thousand dollars check in my pocket

1762
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 4: for Big. I think Big just got into the car

1763
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 4: accident with Sees, so his leg was fucked up and

1764
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 4: the elevator wasn't working. Big coming to the studio, he downstairs, Yo,

1765
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:12,799
Speaker 4: I'm here, bus. I said, all right, well the elevator

1766
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 4: just stopped working, so you gotta come up the stairs.

1767
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 4: I said, mephanze here. He was like a word, tell lebros.

1768
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 4: I set it up, but you ain't gonna see me tonight,

1769
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 4: My nigga fuck I looked like climbing up them stairs,

1770
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,719
Speaker 4: my size and my foot fucked up. I said, my nigga,

1771
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 4: I got your brad nigga. I don't give a fuck

1772
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 4: if you had a trillion dollars upstairs, I ain't coming

1773
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 4: upstairs to night bus the convicts and fuck you and

1774
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 4: fucked that, and Biggie bounced. We had another session. We're

1775
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 4: in the same studio, no beg Interestingly, I don't know

1776
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 4: if anybody wrote they rhyme or even a piece of it,

1777
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 4: but nobody laid they shit because motherfuckers wanted to see

1778
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 4: what Biggie was gonna do. Never got the nis. In

1779
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 4: meth verse, I go to sound tracks. The third day,

1780
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 4: Elevator's fine, big and Seeds come. They pull up methan

1781
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 4: and nis came two days in a row. Now no Biggie,

1782
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 4: so they was not coming on the third day. We

1783
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 4: and the motherfucking stew at the time branching and selling

1784
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 4: the most incredible bud in the hood, and he would

1785
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 4: sell them in these jars that looked like motherfucking pickle jaws,

1786
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 4: Mason jaws. Seeds would roll the blunts and Biggie would

1787
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 4: come with the branching jaws and they're rolling weed blunt.

1788
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 4: After Blunt after Blunt and Biggie just sitting in this

1789
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 4: one of the studio chairs that got the wheels on

1790
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 4: it that roll around. He's sitting in that shit just

1791
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 4: doing this while a beat was playing. One hour, two hours.

1792
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 4: He's just smoking. He ain't writing nothing. Said about three

1793
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 4: hours in.

1794
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 5: I'm just like my.

1795
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 4: Nigga, you ain't gonna you're gonna do this verse one, nigga.

1796
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 4: The nigga said, I'm ready. Buss said ready, you ain't right, shit,

1797
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 4: I'm ready, Bus, You're going to booth. He does the verse.

1798
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 4: Diamonds on my neck, chron drop top nigga seenland pound

1799
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 4: of green. Ooh wee you see the ugliest money hungriest

1800
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 4: Brooklyn Lockness nine millimeter one test, comfort tests and that

1801
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 4: and the winner is not that thin a kid Ban

1802
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 4: Danna's tattoos, my skin never bruised, laying still cruise Frank White.

1803
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 5: So you know what he's doing. You know he doing

1804
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 5: that you shooting?

1805
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's your guy though it's my guy. Yeah.

1806
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 5: And he goes and this other party goes. He goes.

1807
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 4: Kai actor needs chiropractor for crack jaw. Yes, I rocked

1808
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 4: your chatter box danger Rishia not I gets down, twist

1809
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 4: your body round and round upside down. I said, Big,

1810
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 4: I ain't putting this out, putting this out bag because

1811
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 4: Pop was my friend too. Pop choked the sound man

1812
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 4: out for me at a college show when we was

1813
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 4: leaders of the New School because we got there late.

1814
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 4: The nigga turned their equipment off and wouldn't let us

1815
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 4: get a sound check. The stick of Pock ran up

1816
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 4: on this man and just choked him. We only got

1817
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 4: one album out. He calling us legend. He's still dancing

1818
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 4: for fucking Digital Underground. We ain't legends yet, but in

1819
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 4: poc eyes, we was the legends. I love these niggas, man,

1820
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 4: I got to be the mediator. I can't add fuel

1821
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 4: of this fire. I ain't put it out. So when

1822
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 4: Big pass Pop passed, did he working on a Born

1823
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 4: Again album? And if you listen to the Born Again album,

1824
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 4: Biggie was Diddy was looking for verses that might have

1825
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 4: been laying around that was never released commercially that Big

1826
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 4: had recorded. And I told Diddy that I had this

1827
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 4: verse for a long time. So when did he wanted diverse?

1828
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 4: I said, you gotta give me back the money that

1829
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 4: I paid Big. You could have a verse because I

1830
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 4: already know that number one. I wasn't putting it out

1831
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 4: with the back and forth. And I also knew that

1832
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 4: once Biggie passed, yes, whatever was gonna happen with Big,

1833
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 4: Big Moms needed to sanction it. She needed to bless it,

1834
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 4: she needed to be okay with it. I knew Puff

1835
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 4: had to clear it. So I wasn't gonna be able

1836
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 4: to put it out anyway, even if I did do

1837
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 4: it the way that I ended up doing it on

1838
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:17,600
Speaker 4: the Born Again album, Because if you listen to the

1839
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 4: Born Again album, there's a song called Dangerous some Seas

1840
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 4: and I told Diddy, if I give you this verse,

1841
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 4: I need to control this record creatively. So I went

1842
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 4: and got one of my favorite producers, Notch the Ruler

1843
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,799
Speaker 4: from VA. He gave me one of the craziest beats.

1844
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 4: Snoop Mark Curry, myself and Biggie is on a song,

1845
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 4: but in the lines where Biggie might have said something

1846
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 4: to Pop, I muted those lines and I put bars

1847
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 4: there to cover up those dishes, so it sounded like

1848
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,560
Speaker 4: me and Big going back and forth. You know what

1849
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And that's one of the gems that the

1850
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 4: world finally got the hair about. Wow, that's dope. So

1851
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 4: y'all getting that story from the motherfucker. Y'all getting real smoke.

1852
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: Quickly quickly speak on and not quickly speak on your

1853
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 1: relationship with Pop.

1854
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, My, my relationship with Pop was super duper beautiful.

1855
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something. Biggie and Me was closer

1856
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 4: than me and Pop, But my relationship with Pap was incredible.

1857
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 4: This is this is the moment when I knew me

1858
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 4: and Pop was really solid. While I was shooting the

1859
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 4: Higher Learning movie Me Pop on my epps. We all

1860
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 4: stayed in those awkward oparments them fully furnish its in

1861
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 4: the West Coast, but this one in particularly was on

1862
01:47:56,040 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 4: Hollywood and Fuller and at the time, I think me

1863
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 4: and Pok stayed on the same floor. So I would

1864
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:13,719
Speaker 4: come out of my apartment, walk down the hall, bust

1865
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 4: a left, and go to pock apartment. We both was

1866
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 4: on the first floor. During this time was when a

1867
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 4: lot of the crazy shit started with Poc jacked the

1868
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 4: rapper in Atlanta and he sent his motherfucking six' four

1869
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 4: down there and he ended up shooting the cop off

1870
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 4: through the police. Pac was staying in the Oakland apartments

1871
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 4: in Hollywood and Fuller. When Pop got back from that,

1872
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 4: Pop became superpowerl because he felt like the cops was

1873
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 4: going to be out to kill him no matter what

1874
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 4: state he was in, so he had gotten wild arsenal.

1875
01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 5: He kept an NPC beat.

1876
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 4: Me in the crib and like I literally watched them

1877
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 4: write about seven songs to the same Misley brother sample.

1878
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 4: Each song was about different shit. I couldn't understand that.

1879
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 4: After a while, I get tired of hand the motherfucking beat.

1880
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear that beat to write no

1881
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 4: more songs to it. I'm write the one damn song

1882
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 4: to it. I'm off the damn beat. He wrote seven

1883
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 4: songs of the same beat. The next thing that was

1884
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 4: happening to him or that did happen to him, and

1885
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 4: we used to just build all the time and just

1886
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 4: smoke and chop it up. But the next thing that

1887
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 4: happened to him that I had to play a rolling

1888
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 4: was before the Source Awards was on TV, and before

1889
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 4: the Source Awards with the Ship which with Sugar and

1890
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 4: all of them towards Diddy. You know, at the time,

1891
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 4: we would perform off of these dat tapes, right, So

1892
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 4: It's not like an instant we play or like the

1893
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 4: Serado where you could just press the button and shit

1894
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 4: start over. Right, you gotta the wind that shit like

1895
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 4: a cassette. It's like a mini VCR tape. Right, it's

1896
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 4: called that tape. Did you do audio tape? You press

1897
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 4: that shit and it goes. If you don't go with

1898
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:16,560
Speaker 4: the motherfucker, you miss your placement. So if a motherfucker

1899
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 4: press play, you just go. So Tribe had won Best

1900
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 4: Group award at the Soorcial Wards at the time, and

1901
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:28,799
Speaker 4: while they were doing their acceptance speech, whoever the producer

1902
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 4: was of the show, this nigga press pocks that. So

1903
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,600
Speaker 4: it looked like Poc came out in the middle of

1904
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 4: the acceptance speech on some fuck them shit. So he

1905
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 4: looked like he was dis Tribe because he just came

1906
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,720
Speaker 4: out performing on the top of the acceptance speech, like

1907
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 4: he didn't care that they just won their award and

1908
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 4: they trying to do their acceptance speech or whatever. That

1909
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 4: shit led to instant beef. So Tribe and some of

1910
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 4: the Zulus they stepped the pocket and that shit almost

1911
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 4: became something. Poc comes back to La and calls me

1912
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 4: and tell me come higher. At him because he know

1913
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 4: how close I am with Tribed. The world know at

1914
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 4: this point because you know scenario and all of that shit,

1915
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 4: and we you know, everybody, and we see me with

1916
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 4: Tribus one thing or another. I'm with Tribe, right. So

1917
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 4: Pac calls me and Donnie Simpson was on beet still

1918
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 4: at the time, and Tupac when I get to his crib,

1919
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 4: he just was like, yo, bro, you know everything I

1920
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 4: just explained to you. He explained to me. He was like,

1921
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 4: you know, I would never distribe like I love them niggas.

1922
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 4: Them niggas don't be disrespecting nobody, and I'm fans of

1923
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 4: they fucking music them niggas is incredible. You know.

1924
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 5: They pressed my dad.

1925
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 4: I thought it was time for me to go, so

1926
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 4: I just went, you know what I'm saying, I ain't

1927
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 4: know what was happening with the speech and all of that,

1928
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 4: so I want you to if you can get me

1929
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 4: on the phone with Q tips so I could let

1930
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 4: him know it wasn't intentional. I got them on the phone.

1931
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 4: They squashed the beef. The arrangement was they were supposed

1932
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 4: to do something on BET to make a public truce

1933
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 4: so that the world could see them showing each other

1934
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 4: love and embrace, and I think it was supposed to

1935
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 4: happen on Donnie Simmons or with Rap City. I don't

1936
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 4: know if Rap City was on yet with Tiger. That's

1937
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 4: how earlier this shit was because Donnie Simpson was video soul.

1938
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:34,879
Speaker 4: He was video soul, and how Learning came out January.

1939
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 4: It came out early ninety four, So I don't know

1940
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 4: if Rap City was on then, But Donnie Simpson, I

1941
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 4: knew they to go on his shit, get the show,

1942
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 4: and the coordination for them to get around to it

1943
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 4: didn't happen. And then Pop died two years later in

1944
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 4: ninety six, so they never got the chance to squash.

1945
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 5: It for the world.

1946
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 4: They squashed it in front of each other, but they

1947
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 4: really wanted the world to see it because Poc really

1948
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 4: real shit. Poc really was on some He loved the

1949
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 4: East Coast so much that he was doing a one

1950
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 4: nation project where it was a bunch of East Coast

1951
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 4: niggas rocking with West Coast niggas. Greg Nichan, all of

1952
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 4: them was involved with that project. Buckshot bad App, you know,

1953
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 4: he was involved with that project. It was a lot

1954
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 4: of New York MC's rocking with West Coast MCS under

1955
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 4: the vision that Tupac had to create this unified front

1956
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 4: and call this shit one nation to settle down the

1957
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 4: East Coast West Coast shit, you know what I'm saying.

1958
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 4: And he didn't get to see that through yet neither.

1959
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 4: I mean, these songs still exist, that project is still around,

1960
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And I got I got,

1961
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 4: I got a few of them sessions in my own

1962
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 4: hard drive, you know what I'm saying, Because I was

1963
01:53:56,160 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 4: supposed to get on a few of them songs. But

1964
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,759
Speaker 4: the point that I'm trying to make is from choking

1965
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 4: a motherfucker that wouldn't let me get my soundcheck done

1966
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 4: when I was in Leaders at the New School all

1967
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 4: the way to and mind you, leaders broke up in

1968
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 4: ninety three. We're talking like ninety two ninety one. This

1969
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 4: shit happened all the way down to ninety four, ninety three,

1970
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 4: ninety five, even I would say ninety four ninety three,

1971
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 4: him wanting me to play a role into squashing this

1972
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 4: shit with him a Q tip. It just it's a

1973
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 4: testament to how much of a respect and a love

1974
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 4: that we had for each other because we helped each

1975
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 4: other be solution based on shit. Like even when he

1976
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 4: got into the beef with the soundcheck man, we were

1977
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 4: straining him, like, my nigga, we don't want you to

1978
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 4: get in trouble over some shit that ain't worth it.

1979
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 4: We ain't never it was never about doing shit to

1980
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 4: be advocates of create a problem. It was always advocating

1981
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 4: to find solutions to solve problems. And that was the

1982
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 4: relationship dynamic with me and Pop and with us and Pop.

1983
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 4: And you know again, at that time, your mentality was different.

1984
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 4: Nobody was on some yo was get on the gram

1985
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 4: and end nigga out or get on the record and

1986
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 4: end nigga out. Nine niggas called each other and wanted

1987
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 4: to pull up and figure this shit out, like what's

1988
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 4: really good? You know, if it's gonna be something, then

1989
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 4: let's settle it this way and get it over with.

1990
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 4: You know, we ain't got to Nobody gotta get shot right,

1991
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 4: Nobody don't even got to know you know what I'm saying.

1992
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 4: Let's just handle it the way we're going to handle

1993
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 4: it and stand on business. And that was it, and

1994
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 4: miss them days, but we still love pol those integrities

1995
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 4: and those morals and principles on this side believe that what.

1996
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: Is your thought and you don't have to go too

1997
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: deep into it, but obviously kind of being neutral as

1998
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: far as having love for too of the main people

1999
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 1: in the East Coast, West Coast, beef rivalry, whatever you

2000
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: want to call it, How did you play that?

2001
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 3: Or you just step all the way back and just watch. Nah.

2002
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 4: I did everything that I could at the time. I

2003
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 4: wasn't able to have the same access to Pop, so

2004
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 4: I had no real influence in the situation. When it

2005
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 4: came to him, Like when he got around death Row,

2006
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 4: it was different, you know what I'm saying, Biggie, I

2007
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 4: was able to speak to him, and the beautiful thing

2008
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 4: about Big is he didn't even really want to respond

2009
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 4: to none of it because he loved Poc and true story,

2010
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 4: he had a lot of appreciation for shit that Poc

2011
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 4: gave him as gems to help evolve his way of

2012
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 4: thinking to become who he became. You know what I'm saying.

2013
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 4: Pac was obviously out before Big, you know what I mean?

2014
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 4: And when they got super cool, you know, he was

2015
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 4: able to give Big some game that Big was able

2016
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 4: to apply in a real way, and he loved and

2017
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 4: appreciated Poc for it. You know what I'm saying. I

2018
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 4: think Big was more hurt than disrespected, Like he felt

2019
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 4: more hurt, you know what I mean, than anything. So

2020
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 4: it wasn't hard to have those conversations with Big because

2021
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 4: Big really just wanted it. He wanted to settle it.

2022
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 4: He didn't want to provoke it, you know what I'm saying.

2023
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 4: And it's kind of challenging to talk about it because

2024
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 4: you know, I know certain shit that I'm not going

2025
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 4: to disclose that. Sometimes it's interesting to hear young dudes,

2026
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 4: you know, speak about the situation and they don't really

2027
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 4: know what they talking about, you know what I'm saying.

2028
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 4: Like Biggie and Poc, they had absolutely nothing to do

2029
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,839
Speaker 4: with what happened to him. You know, Pop got involved

2030
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 4: with shit in New York that he should not have

2031
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 4: because of his desire to want to be accepted and

2032
01:57:54,520 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 4: loved by his thugs. And sometimes every dog ain't pro

2033
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 4: your movement for the empowerment of thugs. Some of them

2034
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 4: gonna look at you like a Burger or Frankfurter with

2035
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 4: fucking hands and feet, ye, and it become food to them.

2036
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 4: And situations can get manipulated for you to fall into

2037
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 4: certain traps, and unfortunately something of that nature could have

2038
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 4: been avoided if Bro just would have moved a little different.

2039
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 4: I just don't like that it ended up bleeding into

2040
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 4: it becoming this biggie in poct thing when it really

2041
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 4: wasn't even about Picky and Pot at least not the

2042
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 4: shit that happened to Pop. The ship that Pop, I

2043
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 4: guess was disappointed in was completely separate from any of

2044
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 4: that which it was so simple and petty. They could

2045
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 4: have spoken and resolved it. So with that being said,

2046
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 4: I really wish that I was able to have a

2047
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 4: stronger influence knowing the real dynamics of this shit, you

2048
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But ultimately, what we know now

2049
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 4: and what we have the ability to do now is

2050
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 4: keep the motherfucking thoughts and all of the ideas that

2051
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 4: they sparked his thoughts in our minds and the greatness

2052
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 4: of their legacies. We're gonna keep them shits alive forever

2053
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 4: because them dudes is both heroes to me.

2054
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:41,040
Speaker 2: So you talked about your health, your health journey, where

2055
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 2: were you at mentally physically or you said it really

2056
01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 2: hits you when your father passed.

2057
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know how to deal with my father

2058
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 4: passion at all. You know what I'm saying for two reasons.

2059
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 4: I think the first reason was I never experienced the

2060
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 4: death of a family member that close to me prior

2061
01:59:58,880 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 4: to my father passion.

2062
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2063
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 4: I had auns that passed, you know, grandparents that passed.

2064
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 4: You know, I've had cousins that passed. But if father,

2065
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 4: there's nothing that could replace that, nothing to co replace

2066
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 4: your mother. So that was weird to me, and I

2067
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 4: didn't know how to deal with it. Second thing was,

2068
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 4: you know, like I told you all, my father wasn't

2069
02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 4: the biggest fan in the rap shit. He wasn't really

2070
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 4: supportive of you know, I was able to talk to

2071
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 4: my moms about the first time I had sex and

2072
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 4: shit like that, Like my moms were super cool. She would,

2073
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 4: she would, she would really encourage being truthful and being

2074
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 4: comfortable in my truth, you know, with her. My pops,

2075
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 4: I talked to him about getting some ass. He's like,

2076
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 4: he don't want to add that ship because you need

2077
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 4: to be focused on the ship that's that's going to

2078
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:54,000
Speaker 4: help you. You got time to get with girls and shit,

2079
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:58,360
Speaker 4: like get your school ship to get so that mentality

2080
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 4: with my pops I learned to appreciated later because he

2081
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 4: just wanted the best for me. At the time, I

2082
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 4: just was like, we ain't fucking with me, so it

2083
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 4: made me not feel like fucking with him. And when

2084
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 4: he got sick because he caught a heart attack, and

2085
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 4: he caught two heart attacks, the second one is really

2086
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 4: what fuck them up? But I was also having conflict

2087
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:29,320
Speaker 4: with my brother, my only brother, and my pops didn't

2088
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 4: want nothing more than for me and my brother to squash.

2089
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:33,040
Speaker 5: Shit before he passed.

2090
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:37,920
Speaker 4: And between having my frustrations with him as my pop

2091
02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 4: and my brother, I was on some fuck that shit

2092
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 4: and I'm grown and I'm paying my own bells and

2093
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:48,360
Speaker 4: I'm taking care of my whole family. I'm doing this

2094
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 4: shit on my terms, which was selfish and it was stupid.

2095
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 4: So by the time I get I got cool with

2096
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 4: my pops, it wasn't long enough for me to enjoy

2097
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:02,120
Speaker 4: him before he left, so I left with I lived

2098
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 4: with that guilt for a long fucking time, and that

2099
02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 4: shit led to me drawing myself and work, drawing myself,

2100
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 4: and smoking, drawing myself and drinking, drawing myself and staying

2101
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 4: out late because I ain't want to be angry around

2102
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 4: the kids or angry around my woman at the time

2103
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:26,960
Speaker 4: that was living with me, and I just was a

2104
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 4: grouchy motherfucker and extremely unhealthy. So all of this shit

2105
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:37,000
Speaker 4: that I was doing, it made me gain weight to

2106
02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 4: the point where I was the heaviest I ever been

2107
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 4: in my life. And I got to three hundred and

2108
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 4: forty pounds, and I was looking fucked up and I

2109
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 4: was feeling fucked up.

2110
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:49,960
Speaker 5: And then.

2111
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 4: I think just hearing that shit from my immediate circle

2112
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 4: of loved ones is what really started to make me

2113
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 4: feel crazy, because now you ain't the cool pops no

2114
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 4: more on you know what I'm saying. We concerned you,

2115
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:06,040
Speaker 4: this ain't this is not the person that we love

2116
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:08,760
Speaker 4: you something you turning into some other shit, you know

2117
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:10,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So when I started to hear that shit,

2118
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 4: that's when I was like, all, I gotta figure this

2119
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 4: shit out. And then the shit that really hit the fan.

2120
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 5: I think.

2121
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 4: I was shooting the video for Czar, which was the

2122
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:27,400
Speaker 4: first single on my second my last album, Extinction Level

2123
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 4: Event two, and my stomach was so big that the

2124
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 4: stylus at the time, which was a brother that I've

2125
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 4: been working with since, like not too long after. Put

2126
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 4: your hands with my eyes can see who came through

2127
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 4: June Ambrose, the legendary stylus. To make my stomach not

2128
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,360
Speaker 4: look so big, these motherfuckers had to duct tape my

2129
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:57,120
Speaker 4: stomach down. So this shit was the most embarrassed and shit.

2130
02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 4: Literally like the big thick silver tape. It wrapped a

2131
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 4: thin saran wrap around my shit so that the tape

2132
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 4: wouldn't be against my skin. The duct tape Son and

2133
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 4: walked around.

2134
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 5: My body taping my fucking stomach down, Son so I.

2135
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 4: Wouldn't look as crazy as I actually look. Individuals, that

2136
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 4: shit was the worst fucking feeling ever. Video turned out banging.

2137
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 5: That same night.

2138
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 4: I think it was the anniversary of Biggie Passion. We

2139
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 4: go to this club called Poppies in La. My bro

2140
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 4: Fred Matters is DJing and I'm getting super drunk celebrating

2141
02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 4: the video on him and Biggie Life. I overdid it

2142
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:49,880
Speaker 4: to the point where that combined would sleep apnea and

2143
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 4: the PALOPs on my throat. I couldn't breathe properly. And

2144
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:59,360
Speaker 4: then you drunk, so you're sleeping heavier and deeper when

2145
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 4: you drunk we get to my crab and the security

2146
02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:09,920
Speaker 4: couldn't wake me up. My oldest son who works at Blackrock,

2147
02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 4: who was the three year old in the Wuha video,

2148
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 4: who's now thirty at the time when he was my

2149
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:18,280
Speaker 4: road manager when this happened. It's all transpired in like

2150
02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen forty five minutes it took for them to

2151
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:27,120
Speaker 4: wake me up to get me in the crab. He

2152
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:33,720
Speaker 4: got so scared that he told the security everything that

2153
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:36,480
Speaker 4: he felt. He was too scared to tell me because

2154
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:39,600
Speaker 4: he ain't want to hurt me my feelings, so he

2155
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 4: asked them to say it to me, and they said

2156
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 4: it to me the next day, And the next day

2157
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:46,720
Speaker 4: was when I went to the doctor by my breathing

2158
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,960
Speaker 4: because I felt the shit wear the next day and

2159
02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:52,720
Speaker 4: that's when the nigga he stuck this shit in my

2160
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 4: nose and went down into my throat and.

2161
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 5: He's like, oh my god.

2162
02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 4: Nigga just kept saying, oh my God, Like you're gonna

2163
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:03,280
Speaker 4: say fucking on my guard again and not tell me

2164
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 4: what's going on and what you're saying, or you're gonna

2165
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 4: tell me on my guard and tell me what you're saying.

2166
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 4: He's like, you gotta go to the emergency room because

2167
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 4: ninety percent of your breathing passage is blocked. If you

2168
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:17,320
Speaker 4: go to the crib and take a shower and your

2169
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 4: central ear system is on and catch a cold, at

2170
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 4: last ten percent of your breathing passages get blocked. You

2171
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 4: won't be able to breathe. You will be drowning above water.

2172
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 4: I said, I ain't going in on ambulance. He said, okay, well,

2173
02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:32,440
Speaker 4: you gotta sign this agreement right here, because I want

2174
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:34,480
Speaker 4: to make sure that I'm exempt. If you're leaving something

2175
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,120
Speaker 4: happened to you. You're not suing me because I'm telling

2176
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:40,240
Speaker 4: you what they're doing. You ain't listening. I went straight

2177
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 4: to U shl a medical big up to doctor Chetrie.

2178
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 4: Doctor Chetrie is the one who saw my shit, kept

2179
02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 4: me in there for two days, prepped me for the surgery,

2180
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,200
Speaker 4: did the surgery, told me to go home. Now you

2181
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 4: gotta go and vocal rest like Mariah for the next

2182
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 4: two weeks. And I did it, came back. I ain't

2183
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:01,440
Speaker 4: have to see another doctor about it. Palate problem when

2184
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 4: the lost weight transform turned into my little hercules shit.

2185
02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 4: Then after that I got comfortable and gained my weight

2186
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:09,960
Speaker 4: back A little bit, and then I went on tour

2187
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 4: with fifty and I came off for that motherfucker weighing

2188
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:16,800
Speaker 4: probably the I'm probably the lightest I've ever been since

2189
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:19,600
Speaker 4: Leaders and right now I'm in like two twenty six.

2190
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 4: When I went on that tour, I was two sixty.

2191
02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna come down about ten more pounds

2192
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:30,840
Speaker 4: and I might throw the action figure Nigga back on.

2193
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:36,600
Speaker 3: Me as well, you know what I'm saying.

2194
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:40,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was. It was tough dealing with the

2195
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:42,240
Speaker 5: loss of pops like that. Shit was.

2196
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:46,320
Speaker 4: It's a domino effect. I'm definitely let it. It domino

2197
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:48,440
Speaker 4: effected every single thing.

2198
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 5: Else bro.

2199
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 1: Higher Learning, Ice Cube Classic. I think y'all shot a

2200
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:58,160
Speaker 1: light right, Yes, we did, yeh In my school talked

2201
02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 1: to us about that process up, especially just I always

2202
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 1: pictured just y'all beating the skin just about that movie

2203
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 1: and just that process.

2204
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:08,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you, that was the

2205
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 4: most incredible experience for me because that was the first time,

2206
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 4: like I had a coach starring role number one, So

2207
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:20,600
Speaker 4: I was super gassed by that. I was super gassed

2208
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 4: with working with John Singleton. All I was thinking about

2209
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 4: with this the legendary boys of the Hood.

2210
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 5: God.

2211
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was putting all of us in position

2212
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 4: of power more than any other director ever the MC's

2213
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:36,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, the black actors, whether you

2214
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 4: you didn't have to have no skill set, no film

2215
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:44,400
Speaker 4: or television acting history. He believed in you enough to

2216
02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:47,320
Speaker 4: pull something out of you to execute the job, and

2217
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 4: he put you in position. So I salute John Singleton.

2218
02:08:50,240 --> 02:08:54,880
Speaker 4: That made John Singleton's soul continue to rest peacefully. But

2219
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:58,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this, the thing that I learned for

2220
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 4: the first time on his set was how motherfuckers stay

2221
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 4: in character even when they say cut. That ship was

2222
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:12,520
Speaker 4: weird because I ain't understand it. And when niggas say cut,

2223
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 4: I knew how to get back to bust rhymes. I

2224
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 4: knew how to get back to Trevor Smith. I knew

2225
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 4: how to get back to Lord Tyen. I knew how

2226
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 4: to get back to chill O' scheme. You might see

2227
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:28,960
Speaker 4: all the bigger than one Night, like Yo Yo Yo

2228
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 4: so so. The dude who was the leader of the Skinheads,

2229
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:38,200
Speaker 4: I forget his name, but he's a super known actor,

2230
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 4: super successful actor. But the leader of the Skinheads, who

2231
02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:48,000
Speaker 4: you know convinced Michael Rappaport to become a skinhead. He

2232
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:51,680
Speaker 4: stayed in character the whole film. This motherfucker used to

2233
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 4: come on set and go into the trailer with like

2234
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:59,120
Speaker 4: Nazi paraphernalia that he brought himself. That ship used to

2235
02:09:59,200 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 4: bug us the fuck out, bro. He would walk past

2236
02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 4: you and not say nothing like fuck you, looking at

2237
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:08,320
Speaker 4: Nigga like he was on it, on it for real,

2238
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 4: like so and he was the nicest dude in the

2239
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 4: planet like but he just stayed in character the entire film.

2240
02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:22,680
Speaker 4: It really wasn't until it was done that he interacted

2241
02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 4: with people. And that ship was crazy cube at the

2242
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 4: at the at the end of the day, me and

2243
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:31,879
Speaker 4: Omar we stayed in the same apartment complex with Tupac,

2244
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 4: which was the Oak with the States in Fuller in Hollywood.

2245
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 4: So we was vibing all the time. And I ain't

2246
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 4: had I ain't know. This was the first experience. I

2247
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 4: ain't know to have a barber with you bring your

2248
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 4: own barber, so I had to use on my Epps barber.

2249
02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:46,720
Speaker 5: I think we called him Shorty.

2250
02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:51,920
Speaker 4: No, he actually was killing my ship because I had

2251
02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:53,680
Speaker 4: much to do, because I had to dream line, right,

2252
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:55,280
Speaker 4: you know, he just give me a nice lineup and

2253
02:10:55,320 --> 02:11:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm Gucci. But Cube, for the first there's time I

2254
02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:07,600
Speaker 4: saw a motherfucker have their studio in their trailer, Like

2255
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:11,160
Speaker 4: Cube had a full blown studio in this movie trailer.

2256
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 4: So he was recording on the set. And I will

2257
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:22,000
Speaker 4: never forget this day when Na's second album it was written,

2258
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:26,000
Speaker 4: was coming out. Bro that ellmatic fuck the streets up

2259
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:29,560
Speaker 4: so bad that we was on the set counting down

2260
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 4: the days to get that it was written album from Nas.

2261
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:37,160
Speaker 4: Like the conversation every day when we would come to

2262
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:40,160
Speaker 4: the set in the morning and eat breakfast and freshen

2263
02:11:40,280 --> 02:11:42,120
Speaker 4: up on our lines and pop out a little shit

2264
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 4: amongst each other. That Na's conversation was every day on

2265
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 4: the movie set. Regina King, she was incredible, Like I'm

2266
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 4: such a huge fan of her, super duper proud of her,

2267
02:11:56,680 --> 02:12:00,720
Speaker 4: Like she's one of the best actors in human beings

2268
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 4: and one of the most beautiful women in the world

2269
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:06,440
Speaker 4: to me. Super big up to Tyra Banks too, you

2270
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. At the time, Hunt John, I

2271
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:12,040
Speaker 4: think they was in a relationship and he just was

2272
02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 4: taking care of his people, man. And you know one

2273
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:19,080
Speaker 4: thing that I could say about John, not only did

2274
02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:20,720
Speaker 4: he take care of his people, because he came back

2275
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:23,520
Speaker 4: and got us for shit like he got you know,

2276
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:27,200
Speaker 4: he put tyres in position, he put cuban position, He

2277
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:30,120
Speaker 4: put me in position to Raji. He brought me back

2278
02:12:30,200 --> 02:12:33,120
Speaker 4: for fucking shaft like he would come back and get us.

2279
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:34,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It ain't like he would

2280
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 4: just use you one time and that was it. He

2281
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:40,280
Speaker 4: came back and got you. Come on back, Let's do

2282
02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 4: it again.

2283
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 5: Fuck it.

2284
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:45,360
Speaker 4: But for John, the reason why I'm really bigging him

2285
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 4: up is because when you really think about his legacy

2286
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:52,400
Speaker 4: and you think about boys in the hood all the

2287
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:56,360
Speaker 4: way to snowfall on me, I don't know if there's

2288
02:12:56,400 --> 02:13:00,440
Speaker 4: another motherfucker that did it is ilaz him from start

2289
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:04,680
Speaker 4: to returning back to the essence he did it to

2290
02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:08,160
Speaker 4: illis So I thank John for everything.

2291
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:10,600
Speaker 5: Rest in Peace or Rest in Peace of the King.

2292
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:15,800
Speaker 1: Nominated for twelve Grammys. Still haven't received that trophy. Obviously,

2293
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:17,840
Speaker 1: your career is decorated and cemented as one of the

2294
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:20,600
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. You know, athletes, we play to

2295
02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:23,640
Speaker 1: win championships. Grammys is kind of like a championship. Do

2296
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 1: you feel like you need one for self validation because

2297
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:28,760
Speaker 1: we already already know what you are. But what would

2298
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 1: it mean if you were able to get one?

2299
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:34,960
Speaker 4: I like and I enjoy what I've experienced last year

2300
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:39,600
Speaker 4: because what I've experienced last year in my thirty three

2301
02:13:39,680 --> 02:13:45,560
Speaker 4: years are professionally recording. Actually this year makes thirty four, right,

2302
02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:48,160
Speaker 4: but in thirty three years of doing it, And I

2303
02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:51,760
Speaker 4: say thirty three is because my thirty third year, which

2304
02:13:51,800 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 4: is the Jesus year, is when I've received my flowers

2305
02:13:57,080 --> 02:14:01,040
Speaker 4: in an abundance that I've never received it in before.

2306
02:14:01,400 --> 02:14:05,360
Speaker 4: From the Lifetime Achievement Award at the BT Awards, me

2307
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:07,920
Speaker 4: being able to have all of my children since they've

2308
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:08,720
Speaker 4: been born.

2309
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:10,120
Speaker 5: In the same room together.

2310
02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:13,720
Speaker 4: I never I never had a picture with all of

2311
02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:18,160
Speaker 4: my kids in the same room until last year. I

2312
02:14:18,320 --> 02:14:23,240
Speaker 4: still haven't. You know what I'm saying. My happiness and

2313
02:14:23,320 --> 02:14:27,360
Speaker 4: my joy is at a level that I've never I

2314
02:14:27,480 --> 02:14:29,520
Speaker 4: never knew this kind of happy existing.

2315
02:14:29,960 --> 02:14:32,480
Speaker 3: I love to hear that that's deep until.

2316
02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:35,880
Speaker 4: Last year, bro, and the fucking fun that I'm having.

2317
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:38,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all noticed, but I don't think

2318
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:43,560
Speaker 4: before last year, I haven't posted as much as I've

2319
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:49,000
Speaker 4: started posting about the blessings, Like every post I talk

2320
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:52,600
Speaker 4: about the blessings ain't stopping, So we ain't stopping.

2321
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:54,200
Speaker 5: Stay blessed.

2322
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:58,280
Speaker 4: Everything is just I'm appreciated, grateful the way I'm being blessed,

2323
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:02,640
Speaker 4: I'm super grateful, and it's just getting more and more incredible,

2324
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:06,760
Speaker 4: man Like I got incredible people that really love a motherfucker,

2325
02:15:07,320 --> 02:15:12,760
Speaker 4: and I want to keep experiencing that. None of that

2326
02:15:12,920 --> 02:15:15,680
Speaker 4: is gonna determine the greatness I think we do this

2327
02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:18,400
Speaker 4: shit and the reason why we end up receiving these

2328
02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:23,240
Speaker 4: beautiful things. And I always say, you know, ain't no

2329
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 4: timing better than the most highest time, and God clock

2330
02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:32,440
Speaker 4: is the best clock ever. When we do this shit,

2331
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:35,200
Speaker 4: we love and it's coming from a place of passion.

2332
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:38,120
Speaker 4: And it ain't for the bag you already won. You

2333
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 4: already won because you're gonna do it anyway. It's provided

2334
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:44,000
Speaker 4: something else that the bag probably can't.

2335
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:47,680
Speaker 5: It's giving you a fulfillment, self fulfillment, you know what

2336
02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:50,240
Speaker 5: I mean. Nothing else could give you it like that.

2337
02:15:50,440 --> 02:15:54,760
Speaker 4: But the beautiful shit is because you do it from

2338
02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:58,520
Speaker 4: a place of love and personal fulfillment. When you get

2339
02:15:58,600 --> 02:16:01,400
Speaker 4: the bag on top of it, it's so fuck amazing

2340
02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:04,960
Speaker 4: because it never feels like work. You feel what I'm saying.

2341
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:09,000
Speaker 4: So if I get the Grammys, yes, I'm gonna add

2342
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:11,080
Speaker 4: that shit to the botanical garden.

2343
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:13,680
Speaker 5: The flowers up and received like a motherfucker right up.

2344
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:16,000
Speaker 4: But if I don't get it, it don't change the

2345
02:16:16,120 --> 02:16:18,600
Speaker 4: fact that I can still go down in history on

2346
02:16:18,720 --> 02:16:21,440
Speaker 4: my Bob Mally shit because Bob ain't never get a

2347
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:24,480
Speaker 4: Grammy either. You know what I'm saying, But you can't

2348
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:29,080
Speaker 4: tell Bob Marley legacy nothing right, And I'm comfortable.

2349
02:16:28,640 --> 02:16:29,080
Speaker 5: With that too.

2350
02:16:29,240 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 1: That's dope, all right. Last question before we get the

2351
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:35,840
Speaker 1: quick hits. This shit's been amazing. So yeah, your influence

2352
02:16:35,879 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 1: you've had on artists such as Eminem Tai, Lib Quality

2353
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:42,560
Speaker 1: k Dot, you Major Mark thirty three, thirty four years now,

2354
02:16:44,120 --> 02:16:46,160
Speaker 1: what do you think back when you look, you know,

2355
02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:48,360
Speaker 1: on your journey, where it started, where you are now,

2356
02:16:48,800 --> 02:16:51,119
Speaker 1: the people you've encourage, the doors you've opened, the people

2357
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:52,760
Speaker 1: you've got to meet. What do you sit back and

2358
02:16:52,760 --> 02:16:55,440
Speaker 1: think about because I feel like often we're on the

2359
02:16:55,480 --> 02:16:57,320
Speaker 1: hamster wheel, so we don't get to kind of look back,

2360
02:16:57,360 --> 02:16:59,720
Speaker 1: and man, man, I had to run. So when you

2361
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:01,280
Speaker 1: get a chance to kind of sit back and think,

2362
02:17:01,320 --> 02:17:02,360
Speaker 1: you know what comes to your mind.

2363
02:17:02,560 --> 02:17:04,080
Speaker 4: The first thing that comes to my mind all the

2364
02:17:04,160 --> 02:17:08,360
Speaker 4: time is just how incredible I feel that the Most

2365
02:17:08,440 --> 02:17:11,800
Speaker 4: High has blessed me with this gift and the ability

2366
02:17:11,879 --> 02:17:14,640
Speaker 4: to share it. You know what I'm saying. I think

2367
02:17:14,640 --> 02:17:16,400
Speaker 4: that's why I overwork. I don't miss a day in

2368
02:17:16,480 --> 02:17:19,520
Speaker 4: the studio, even if I'm sick. I go to the

2369
02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:24,160
Speaker 4: studio with my medicine, my chicken noodle soup, my ginger root,

2370
02:17:24,320 --> 02:17:26,680
Speaker 4: the whole shit, and I will sit down and just

2371
02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:29,080
Speaker 4: lay there. Even if I don't feel strong enough to record,

2372
02:17:29,160 --> 02:17:32,440
Speaker 4: I'll go there and just lay down and relax. Because

2373
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:35,879
Speaker 4: being in them four walls therapeutic for motherfucker. I could

2374
02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:40,480
Speaker 4: think about being the all five, six, seven, eight Avengeance combined,

2375
02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:43,400
Speaker 4: and I could be that nigga in that fucking studio

2376
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:46,400
Speaker 4: and can't nobody tell me nothing, and the studio don't

2377
02:17:46,520 --> 02:17:48,480
Speaker 4: argue with you, and the studio ain't talking back and

2378
02:17:48,520 --> 02:17:51,200
Speaker 4: trying to manipulate and over talk you and act like

2379
02:17:51,240 --> 02:17:55,280
Speaker 4: it don't want to listen. I avoid all of that

2380
02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:59,840
Speaker 4: when I go to the stool. So sometimes it's the sanctuary.

2381
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 4: I actually heal quicker because I ain't got a cater

2382
02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:09,879
Speaker 4: to nothing in there. I'm at the most piece when

2383
02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 4: I'm in the studio number two. Every name that you

2384
02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:23,080
Speaker 4: just said, they're my favorite artists. I'm gonna keep it

2385
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:25,440
Speaker 4: a buck. I don't think nobody could fuck with Eminem.

2386
02:18:27,520 --> 02:18:34,800
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, doctor Umar, stop it, Wolence.

2387
02:18:36,600 --> 02:18:38,400
Speaker 3: That's all I need to be said, man, Wilence.

2388
02:18:38,959 --> 02:18:41,440
Speaker 4: And and there's a lot of shit that doctor Umar

2389
02:18:41,520 --> 02:18:43,920
Speaker 4: said that I agree with, but this is one particular

2390
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:46,560
Speaker 4: one when you way off the kilt. Bro. You know

2391
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:49,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Eminem is the truth, Bro, you know

2392
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:52,720
Speaker 4: what I mean. I actually I got a song coming

2393
02:18:52,800 --> 02:18:55,920
Speaker 4: out with with with an artist you know, that I

2394
02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 4: had to address about, you know, his testimonial and the

2395
02:19:00,040 --> 02:19:03,120
Speaker 4: opinion on Eminem two. I had to check him on

2396
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:06,440
Speaker 4: his own song in rhyme form. Oh so, y'all just

2397
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 4: stay tuned for that. And I'm a huge fan of

2398
02:19:08,840 --> 02:19:11,040
Speaker 4: the artist that I made the record with. But the

2399
02:19:11,120 --> 02:19:14,960
Speaker 4: beautiful thing is what makes these moments specialists when you

2400
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:17,560
Speaker 4: could be honest on these records and we ain't got

2401
02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:20,240
Speaker 4: a front, So don't put yourself in a situation and

2402
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:21,920
Speaker 4: then asks me to rhyme with you because I'm going

2403
02:19:22,040 --> 02:19:23,840
Speaker 4: to check you when you can't argue with me, because

2404
02:19:24,160 --> 02:19:27,840
Speaker 4: I'm the fucking of the statesmen in the timeless great Now.

2405
02:19:27,920 --> 02:19:31,760
Speaker 4: With that being said, Kendrick is my favorite, Eminem is

2406
02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:35,000
Speaker 4: my favorite, Ta lib Quality is my favorite. Loot is

2407
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:46,040
Speaker 4: one of my favorites. Smeno JD J. Cole Drake, Lil Wayne,

2408
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:58,560
Speaker 4: Rick Ross. Huh word, I got way too many favorites.

2409
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:00,959
Speaker 4: Rock Chim is one of my favorites. Caine, Slick, Rick,

2410
02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:04,720
Speaker 4: krs One, Chuck d. I'll be here forever going down

2411
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:08,520
Speaker 4: this list. But what I'm saying is to the younger

2412
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:10,400
Speaker 4: ones or the ones that might have came after me,

2413
02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:14,039
Speaker 4: to hear them actually acknowledging, big me up and give

2414
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:17,360
Speaker 4: me my flowers. Whether it's in a conversation piece, it's

2415
02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:21,520
Speaker 4: in an interview, that feeling and the thought that crosses

2416
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:28,200
Speaker 4: my mind is super humble, humbling and gratitude and appreciation.

2417
02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:32,000
Speaker 4: And I'm such a giver of love that even if

2418
02:20:32,040 --> 02:20:35,360
Speaker 4: you don't big me up in that way, one thing

2419
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:39,280
Speaker 4: I know is the difference between the truth and the lies.

2420
02:20:39,360 --> 02:20:42,760
Speaker 4: The truth don't change, only lives do. So even if

2421
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:45,400
Speaker 4: you don't speak it, it's showing prove us. You know

2422
02:20:45,440 --> 02:20:49,760
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, we know who my DNA is in pause.

2423
02:20:50,760 --> 02:20:52,600
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, the

2424
02:20:52,680 --> 02:20:55,800
Speaker 4: great thing is motherfucker's actually acknowledge that. You know, we

2425
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:57,800
Speaker 4: all take a little thing from each other. I'm not

2426
02:20:57,879 --> 02:20:59,800
Speaker 4: gonna front like I could see Kendrick, and I can

2427
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:03,360
Speaker 4: to Kendrick and watch Kendrick, and I want a rhyme

2428
02:21:03,480 --> 02:21:06,800
Speaker 4: with Kendrick because he is evoking and emotion in me.

2429
02:21:07,440 --> 02:21:10,760
Speaker 4: Eminem is the same shit. He brings the best out

2430
02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:12,440
Speaker 4: of me. These dudes bring the best out of me.

2431
02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:15,320
Speaker 4: I did a song with Eminem called Calm Down. I

2432
02:21:15,440 --> 02:21:17,959
Speaker 4: sent it to him with sixteen bars. He gonna send

2433
02:21:18,040 --> 02:21:20,920
Speaker 4: back forty eight. Not doing that to me on my record.

2434
02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:24,879
Speaker 4: I sent to fifty four. He sends me back sixty two.

2435
02:21:25,240 --> 02:21:28,119
Speaker 4: I sit back sixty eight. Who we making the song

2436
02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:30,360
Speaker 4: for at this point? Yeah, movie, we ain't making no

2437
02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:33,000
Speaker 4: song for the consumer. We just battling, not a record

2438
02:21:33,040 --> 02:21:35,360
Speaker 4: a seven minutes. They ain't playing it in the club,

2439
02:21:35,600 --> 02:21:37,800
Speaker 4: They not gonna play it in the radio. We might

2440
02:21:37,879 --> 02:21:41,000
Speaker 4: get some satellite radio spins, we might get some motherfucking

2441
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:44,040
Speaker 4: blogs to talk about this shit, because it's an eventful moment.

2442
02:21:44,360 --> 02:21:46,920
Speaker 4: But we turned a record that could have been a

2443
02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:50,160
Speaker 4: radio joint into a Me and you straight raw hip

2444
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 4: hop fuck the rules moment because we love it so

2445
02:21:54,320 --> 02:21:59,560
Speaker 4: much that the competitive nature we both have forced us

2446
02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:03,280
Speaker 4: to bring the best out of each other. Only dudes

2447
02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:07,120
Speaker 4: like that can cause me to be this way. So

2448
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:10,879
Speaker 4: I love em, I love Kendrick, I love ty Lip

2449
02:22:10,959 --> 02:22:14,240
Speaker 4: Quality and every other MC that I just said, And

2450
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:18,160
Speaker 4: these is the dudes when they pick me up, it

2451
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:21,199
Speaker 4: just really feels fucking incredible.

2452
02:22:21,560 --> 02:22:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot right here. Named

2453
02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:25,800
Speaker 1: one MC that represents each borough in New York.

2454
02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:29,440
Speaker 4: One MC that reps each borough in New York. Let

2455
02:22:29,520 --> 02:22:34,920
Speaker 4: me think of this one good buster rhymes, I rep

2456
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:36,000
Speaker 4: every borough.

2457
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:38,760
Speaker 5: Because I'm on my.

2458
02:22:38,879 --> 02:22:41,800
Speaker 4: New York shit hat to the back of my New

2459
02:22:41,920 --> 02:22:46,280
Speaker 4: York shit. I'm on my New York shit. Tim's with

2460
02:22:46,400 --> 02:22:50,120
Speaker 4: the shorts of my New York shit. Fuck you talking

2461
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:52,440
Speaker 4: about I repped the Giants, the jadge to New York.

2462
02:22:52,600 --> 02:22:55,800
Speaker 4: Next telling me clothing in my New York stitch, my

2463
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:58,240
Speaker 4: chick banging, what you see my New York bitch?

2464
02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:04,080
Speaker 5: Fuck you mean? Ill rap all the burrow man, every

2465
02:23:04,240 --> 02:23:05,080
Speaker 5: burrow man.

2466
02:23:07,320 --> 02:23:09,880
Speaker 3: Next question, who is your childhood crush.

2467
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:16,040
Speaker 4: Janet off grip and got off rip when I used

2468
02:23:16,040 --> 02:23:20,080
Speaker 4: to watch her on fucking good times and even when

2469
02:23:20,120 --> 02:23:23,720
Speaker 4: she was Willis golfriend on different strokes. I ain't gonna

2470
02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:29,840
Speaker 4: lie two penny bro facts of life, Kim Fields Bro. Yeah,

2471
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:34,360
Speaker 4: she was a mean one for me to now plate

2472
02:23:35,080 --> 02:23:36,280
Speaker 4: grown now to y'all.

2473
02:23:36,440 --> 02:23:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I'm outside, let me stop playing. Hey, that

2474
02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:41,200
Speaker 1: makes sense though, why you did the studio the way

2475
02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:43,920
Speaker 1: you did for Jenna appreciative, but at the same time,

2476
02:23:43,959 --> 02:23:45,000
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of loving that.

2477
02:23:45,280 --> 02:23:48,640
Speaker 4: Love respect, and I still had that crush and that

2478
02:23:48,840 --> 02:23:52,480
Speaker 4: nervous right I had to get out the road, you

2479
02:23:52,520 --> 02:23:55,240
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Yeah, Now, my moms did an

2480
02:23:55,280 --> 02:23:58,160
Speaker 4: amazing job with making sure that being a gentleman was

2481
02:23:58,280 --> 02:24:01,959
Speaker 4: first and foremost, and Kim Fields and Janet, the respect

2482
02:24:02,080 --> 02:24:08,680
Speaker 4: level is so tremendous, you know what I'm saying. It's

2483
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:11,160
Speaker 4: too It's so many women I would love the bigger, bigger,

2484
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:12,240
Speaker 4: Missy Elliott Man.

2485
02:24:12,640 --> 02:24:15,440
Speaker 1: She okay, so she's one of my favorite. Talk about

2486
02:24:15,480 --> 02:24:17,120
Speaker 1: Missy for a seconds, she's one of my favorite. I

2487
02:24:17,120 --> 02:24:19,000
Speaker 1: don't think she gets to her and Tim, but don't

2488
02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:21,560
Speaker 1: they don't really get the what they did for that

2489
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:22,680
Speaker 1: era of music.

2490
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:27,199
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, she's getting her fucking flowers now, brother.

2491
02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:28,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I hear.

2492
02:24:28,400 --> 02:24:31,520
Speaker 4: She got the Vanguard Award from the vm as she

2493
02:24:31,840 --> 02:24:34,760
Speaker 4: just been became the first female hip hop artist to

2494
02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:37,600
Speaker 4: ever be inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

2495
02:24:38,600 --> 02:24:44,200
Speaker 4: Like that ship is the most prestigious decorated award ever.

2496
02:24:44,440 --> 02:24:48,760
Speaker 4: Like hip hop existed fifty years now, they never ever

2497
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:50,920
Speaker 4: gave it to one female MC.

2498
02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:51,800
Speaker 5: Prior to her.

2499
02:24:52,040 --> 02:24:59,080
Speaker 4: Wow, fifty years. No, No, not one female guy that

2500
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:02,760
Speaker 4: before Missy. It's a testament to what you're saying, though,

2501
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:06,160
Speaker 4: how much has she has done and what Tim has done,

2502
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:12,000
Speaker 4: it's definitely a one of none. There's been a lot

2503
02:25:12,040 --> 02:25:14,800
Speaker 4: of female MC's, but you gotta think about it, Like

2504
02:25:15,800 --> 02:25:22,000
Speaker 4: Missy writes for the most successful other artists ever, produces

2505
02:25:24,920 --> 02:25:29,600
Speaker 4: smashes everybody with her own ship. She could fuck up

2506
02:25:29,600 --> 02:25:31,520
Speaker 4: the live shows when she feels like doing it, but

2507
02:25:31,640 --> 02:25:33,760
Speaker 4: she got so much money that you will very rarely

2508
02:25:33,800 --> 02:25:38,240
Speaker 4: see her on the stage, and her visuals is probably

2509
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:41,080
Speaker 4: the closest thing that could fuck with anything that I've

2510
02:25:41,160 --> 02:25:46,280
Speaker 4: done out of everybody's. That's the female twin sister of

2511
02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:50,600
Speaker 4: buster rhymes. I hold Missy in the highest regard. I

2512
02:25:54,160 --> 02:26:00,160
Speaker 4: love that woman in a very like She inspired as

2513
02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:05,800
Speaker 4: me so much. Bro, we inspire each other. You know,

2514
02:26:06,080 --> 02:26:08,840
Speaker 4: I've been putting my ship out before Missy, but Missy

2515
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:12,800
Speaker 4: she showed me the same love and appreciation from her

2516
02:26:12,920 --> 02:26:15,920
Speaker 4: very first album. She she was probably the first person

2517
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:18,080
Speaker 4: to get me on an album and and not even

2518
02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:20,720
Speaker 4: make me rhyme, like just get on here and talk

2519
02:26:20,800 --> 02:26:22,600
Speaker 4: some shit and fuck around. But I just want your

2520
02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:24,920
Speaker 4: voice on my ship, you.

2521
02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:25,440
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.

2522
02:26:26,320 --> 02:26:30,640
Speaker 4: She from the inception of hip hop. Miss's the first

2523
02:26:30,720 --> 02:26:32,160
Speaker 4: one to get the rock and roll Hall of Fame.

2524
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:35,080
Speaker 4: So hats off to miss you know what I'm saying.

2525
02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:38,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, she she She ain't stopping no time

2526
02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:41,200
Speaker 4: soon either, now that am mine. We just cut from

2527
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:42,720
Speaker 4: a cloth manufacture no more.

2528
02:26:42,879 --> 02:26:44,840
Speaker 3: Came Most Underrated Foodspot New York.

2529
02:26:45,680 --> 02:26:47,400
Speaker 5: Most underrated food spot in New York.

2530
02:26:47,480 --> 02:26:49,760
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody's familiar with it personally, but

2531
02:26:49,840 --> 02:26:53,240
Speaker 4: there's a West Indian restaurant on Utica and flat Lands

2532
02:26:53,280 --> 02:26:57,400
Speaker 4: and it's called Topaz. It got the wickedest butt.

2533
02:26:57,480 --> 02:26:58,240
Speaker 5: I shrimp.

2534
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:05,800
Speaker 4: Bought shripn Corey Lobster. That my Wicked As Team snap

2535
02:27:05,920 --> 02:27:13,560
Speaker 4: out with her crime vegetable hell, coury chicken pat regular

2536
02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:17,440
Speaker 4: beef pat call card at them, the Wicked as hawkstail. Yeah,

2537
02:27:18,000 --> 02:27:22,360
Speaker 4: that's got all got every amazing food. They've been catering

2538
02:27:22,480 --> 02:27:25,560
Speaker 4: all of my album photo shoots pretty much my entire

2539
02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:28,960
Speaker 4: solo album career. And big up to Ali trus Sho

2540
02:27:29,080 --> 02:27:31,800
Speaker 4: was the art director for all of my solo albums

2541
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:38,960
Speaker 4: up until up until probably The Big Bang and then

2542
02:27:41,760 --> 02:27:44,800
Speaker 4: and Ali Trush is a legend. She did fucking o

2543
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:48,240
Speaker 4: DB's return of the thirty six Chambers with his picture

2544
02:27:48,280 --> 02:27:51,800
Speaker 4: in the welfare car. Now like she's different type of

2545
02:27:51,879 --> 02:27:55,760
Speaker 4: legend with this ship. But she made sure that every

2546
02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:59,360
Speaker 4: photo shoot for every album that Topaz was in the building,

2547
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:03,480
Speaker 4: praise and trays of each fucking dish that I wanted

2548
02:28:03,520 --> 02:28:05,920
Speaker 4: to eat. So to all of those that get a

2549
02:28:06,040 --> 02:28:09,400
Speaker 4: chance experience that toe Pads experience on Utica and flatlands

2550
02:28:09,440 --> 02:28:11,880
Speaker 4: and these flappers Brooklyn, and to the owners and the

2551
02:28:11,959 --> 02:28:14,960
Speaker 4: shareholders of the toe Pass Corporation, we have to have

2552
02:28:15,080 --> 02:28:16,440
Speaker 4: a new discussion.

2553
02:28:20,320 --> 02:28:22,879
Speaker 1: In a different text backing. Now, Yeah, let's tell maybe,

2554
02:28:23,560 --> 02:28:26,840
Speaker 1: let's expand Stuck on the Island. Three movies to show

2555
02:28:26,879 --> 02:28:27,400
Speaker 1: in rotation.

2556
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:30,720
Speaker 4: I want snowfall, of course, gotta have it, funk that

2557
02:28:31,560 --> 02:28:35,200
Speaker 4: gotta have snowfall. There's a fucking series that only had

2558
02:28:35,280 --> 02:28:39,039
Speaker 4: one season and it was on Amazon Prime.

2559
02:28:39,320 --> 02:28:46,280
Speaker 3: Was the Regina the Netflix? A minute, seven seconds, seven minutes.

2560
02:28:47,120 --> 02:28:48,680
Speaker 5: That was unbelieving. I didn't see that.

2561
02:28:48,720 --> 02:28:49,480
Speaker 3: I gotta out.

2562
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:54,280
Speaker 2: I got only one season season, right, That's why we're

2563
02:28:54,280 --> 02:28:55,040
Speaker 2: still talking about it.

2564
02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:59,119
Speaker 4: I'm watching that ship tonight, yo. But the ship I'm

2565
02:28:59,160 --> 02:29:02,000
Speaker 4: talking about. The aim of the ship was it was

2566
02:29:02,080 --> 02:29:04,960
Speaker 4: the same name three times, with no spaces in between

2567
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:08,960
Speaker 4: the words. It was a show about some drug dealers

2568
02:29:09,040 --> 02:29:11,960
Speaker 4: and some some like all this old man mafia, that

2569
02:29:12,600 --> 02:29:20,200
Speaker 4: old man godfather that was actually in charge of bringing

2570
02:29:20,520 --> 02:29:25,400
Speaker 4: like this big, super out of control portion of drugs

2571
02:29:25,480 --> 02:29:29,800
Speaker 4: to these mafia families because he took took money from

2572
02:29:29,840 --> 02:29:30,400
Speaker 4: them or whatever.

2573
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:36,600
Speaker 1: And zero zero zero son, There he goes again, zero

2574
02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:38,760
Speaker 1: zero zero, There he goes again.

2575
02:29:38,879 --> 02:29:39,400
Speaker 5: Looked it up?

2576
02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:42,800
Speaker 3: Okay, zero zero much credit out?

2577
02:29:44,240 --> 02:29:49,040
Speaker 5: That shit is crazy one season. It never came back.

2578
02:29:49,160 --> 02:29:54,680
Speaker 4: That ship is crazy Amazon, Amazon's Amazon Prime. One season.

2579
02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:57,880
Speaker 4: That shit never came back. It's super crazy, all right?

2580
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:00,959
Speaker 4: So I got a third one? What is my third one?

2581
02:30:01,280 --> 02:30:03,080
Speaker 4: This might just be a movie. This not might not

2582
02:30:03,200 --> 02:30:05,840
Speaker 4: be a series. I don't know why I love this movie.

2583
02:30:05,879 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 4: This movie just did something else to me. But when

2584
02:30:07,879 --> 02:30:13,440
Speaker 4: you said seven, there's a movie called seven. Yeah, with

2585
02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:17,160
Speaker 4: the Deadly Me and all of that ship. The movie

2586
02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:21,680
Speaker 4: was fucking ill to me. To crazy, right, they sold

2587
02:30:21,720 --> 02:30:24,959
Speaker 4: that nigga mouthfucker, Margaret Freeman, and so they wouldn't eat.

2588
02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:26,560
Speaker 5: Because he was a glutton. You know.

2589
02:30:26,680 --> 02:30:29,520
Speaker 4: Not this movie was so crazy, but that it would

2590
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:32,759
Speaker 4: be that type of ships that them action dramas.

2591
02:30:32,360 --> 02:30:35,039
Speaker 5: And and suspense suspense thrillers.

2592
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:38,320
Speaker 4: I'm a fanatic for them ships, big bro. So yeah,

2593
02:30:38,320 --> 02:30:40,160
Speaker 4: if I was stranding on the island, them three ships

2594
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:40,720
Speaker 4: is what I need.

2595
02:30:41,240 --> 02:30:42,960
Speaker 2: One guess you would like to see on All the Smoke,

2596
02:30:43,720 --> 02:30:46,320
Speaker 2: But you have to help Leu's get your answer on

2597
02:30:46,400 --> 02:30:46,879
Speaker 2: the show.

2598
02:30:49,360 --> 02:30:49,680
Speaker 5: Twist.

2599
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:52,640
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna interrupt this question. I normally don't if

2600
02:30:52,680 --> 02:30:55,040
Speaker 1: you got a personal relationship with Missy that would make

2601
02:30:55,120 --> 02:30:57,440
Speaker 1: my whole years.

2602
02:30:56,920 --> 02:30:59,800
Speaker 4: I definitely do. Please, I'm gonna tell you something now.

2603
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:04,039
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you. Go to see now

2604
02:31:04,120 --> 02:31:08,480
Speaker 4: that's different because your step.

2605
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:11,920
Speaker 5: That's one thing she she it's hard to get her

2606
02:31:11,959 --> 02:31:12,520
Speaker 5: to step.

2607
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:13,800
Speaker 3: Out we'll step in.

2608
02:31:14,400 --> 02:31:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, missy will step in respectfully. Shoes no shoes on neither.

2609
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:21,280
Speaker 5: Now, that's that's my sister.

2610
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:25,200
Speaker 4: And and I will definitely reach out and and and

2611
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:30,360
Speaker 4: I would let her understand this is not regular. Rest

2612
02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:33,760
Speaker 4: the piece magoo too well, Rest in peace to Magoo. Man,

2613
02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:37,320
Speaker 4: rest in peace to Magool. Or they just recently passed. Man,

2614
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:40,360
Speaker 4: it's it's it's crazy. And my mom's always would say,

2615
02:31:40,400 --> 02:31:43,720
Speaker 4: you know, we're not old, but we're grown. And the

2616
02:31:43,840 --> 02:31:47,760
Speaker 4: more grown we become, the more regular it becomes when

2617
02:31:47,800 --> 02:31:53,760
Speaker 4: we see our people pass. And again with that being said, motherfuckers,

2618
02:31:54,520 --> 02:31:56,880
Speaker 4: take full advantage of the present. That's why it's called

2619
02:31:56,920 --> 02:31:59,680
Speaker 4: the present. And and and value the present like the

2620
02:31:59,760 --> 02:32:01,920
Speaker 4: scene gift that you value when you receive it, with

2621
02:32:02,040 --> 02:32:04,720
Speaker 4: the fucking gift wrapping the ribbon on it. Enjoy it

2622
02:32:04,879 --> 02:32:07,680
Speaker 4: the same way, you know what I'm saying, Because one thing,

2623
02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:10,320
Speaker 4: the most hid on os is another five seconds out

2624
02:32:10,360 --> 02:32:12,119
Speaker 4: this bitch real shit.

2625
02:32:12,280 --> 02:32:14,000
Speaker 5: So enjoy it. Value it.

2626
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:18,160
Speaker 4: Don't be afraid of reluctant to tell your people, your folks,

2627
02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:22,480
Speaker 4: you love them. Fuck that bear hugs is okay amongst

2628
02:32:23,120 --> 02:32:26,600
Speaker 4: grown men, you know what I'm saying. And and and

2629
02:32:27,080 --> 02:32:28,879
Speaker 4: women and men. I mean, you know, it's a little

2630
02:32:28,920 --> 02:32:32,280
Speaker 4: weird with the sexual assault shit. Trust me, I'll shake

2631
02:32:32,320 --> 02:32:34,720
Speaker 4: your hand before I give you women a hug, But overall,

2632
02:32:34,800 --> 02:32:36,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna still hug the ones that I know what.

2633
02:32:37,440 --> 02:32:38,199
Speaker 5: My hug means.

2634
02:32:38,920 --> 02:32:42,640
Speaker 4: And I just feel like, you know, Missy, we love you,

2635
02:32:42,959 --> 02:32:46,040
Speaker 4: Yes we do. I'm gonna say it right now. I

2636
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:50,640
Speaker 4: love all of my fellow brothers and sisters in this

2637
02:32:50,760 --> 02:32:54,200
Speaker 4: shit period. And as y'all can see, I don't have

2638
02:32:54,480 --> 02:32:58,880
Speaker 4: conflict with people, nobody. I don't have those problems. I

2639
02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:01,920
Speaker 4: love people. I'm a giver of love. We're gonna keep

2640
02:33:01,959 --> 02:33:04,360
Speaker 4: it that way too. In fact, we're gonna step the

2641
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:06,360
Speaker 4: ship up and keep each other lifted up while we

2642
02:33:06,480 --> 02:33:07,040
Speaker 4: love each other.

2643
02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:08,080
Speaker 3: That's right, man, that.

2644
02:33:08,280 --> 02:33:10,640
Speaker 1: Part bus Man, we appreciate. I mean, just to get

2645
02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:13,039
Speaker 1: an opportunity. This has been one of my favorite interviews.

2646
02:33:13,080 --> 02:33:14,880
Speaker 1: And I think the owner of the building, We're sorry,

2647
02:33:14,920 --> 02:33:15,640
Speaker 1: we're probably.

2648
02:33:15,360 --> 02:33:18,200
Speaker 3: An hour and a half past. We couldn't turn this off,

2649
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:19,080
Speaker 3: couldn't turn this off.

2650
02:33:20,840 --> 02:33:21,880
Speaker 5: This was beautiful.

2651
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:24,080
Speaker 1: You know, the chance to obviously be a fan, but

2652
02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, befriend you over the last handful of years.

2653
02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:28,680
Speaker 3: And then get to know more about you. Thank you

2654
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:31,040
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and just how you you know

2655
02:33:31,640 --> 02:33:32,200
Speaker 3: what you've done.

2656
02:33:32,240 --> 02:33:34,320
Speaker 1: Obviously you accomplishment speak for themselves, but I think you

2657
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:36,640
Speaker 1: know a better man, if that makes sense, than a

2658
02:33:36,680 --> 02:33:39,080
Speaker 1: great artist and great a lot of things, but to me,

2659
02:33:39,160 --> 02:33:41,200
Speaker 1: a better man. So it's just like it was an

2660
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:43,400
Speaker 1: honor for you to sit down and come fuck with us.

2661
02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:46,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you both, I've been a fan.

2662
02:33:46,680 --> 02:33:47,200
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

2663
02:33:47,320 --> 02:33:49,320
Speaker 5: Thank you. That made me a lot of money on bets.

2664
02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:57,000
Speaker 5: I'm not. Let me tell you something.

2665
02:33:57,320 --> 02:33:59,560
Speaker 4: The thing that I love the most about y'all both

2666
02:34:00,360 --> 02:34:05,480
Speaker 4: and particularly outside of being champions and being boss and

2667
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:08,960
Speaker 4: a part of the elite group of the greatest athletes

2668
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:11,680
Speaker 4: to ever do it, I love what y'all stand on

2669
02:34:11,760 --> 02:34:12,599
Speaker 4: and represent.

2670
02:34:12,320 --> 02:34:14,000
Speaker 5: As black men. Thank you.

2671
02:34:14,879 --> 02:34:17,880
Speaker 4: I don't cause no trouble, but y'all ain't got no

2672
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:22,800
Speaker 4: problem finishing that shit with grace, with grace, with grace.

2673
02:34:24,200 --> 02:34:24,680
Speaker 3: You feel me.

2674
02:34:25,080 --> 02:34:28,440
Speaker 4: I've watched I've watched both of my brothers check motherfuckers,

2675
02:34:28,840 --> 02:34:31,200
Speaker 4: and it ain't about being tough. It's about being men.

2676
02:34:31,840 --> 02:34:33,920
Speaker 4: And they be trying to misconstrued a ship with the

2677
02:34:34,040 --> 02:34:38,080
Speaker 4: toxic masculinity talking all that fuck shit. No, we got

2678
02:34:38,240 --> 02:34:42,720
Speaker 4: young men's, young men's children and young men teenagers and

2679
02:34:42,840 --> 02:34:44,959
Speaker 4: young men that still think they.

2680
02:34:46,600 --> 02:34:49,320
Speaker 5: Men. But it's a difference between being a man and

2681
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:52,240
Speaker 5: being a male. You have a male.

2682
02:34:52,680 --> 02:34:55,160
Speaker 4: You got your little Johnson swinging between your legs. You

2683
02:34:55,240 --> 02:34:57,920
Speaker 4: got a little legal adult age. You think you are man.

2684
02:34:58,440 --> 02:35:00,960
Speaker 4: You're not a man, bro you a man, You're an

2685
02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:03,960
Speaker 4: adult male. A man means you could take care of

2686
02:35:03,959 --> 02:35:06,680
Speaker 4: yourself and you can actually assist taking care of other people.

2687
02:35:07,640 --> 02:35:10,320
Speaker 4: Distinguish the difference between the two and stop moving around

2688
02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:12,320
Speaker 4: here like you're a man when you not. You know

2689
02:35:12,360 --> 02:35:14,360
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Being a man that shit come with

2690
02:35:14,520 --> 02:35:17,800
Speaker 4: us standard and it comes with a responsibility that you

2691
02:35:17,959 --> 02:35:20,880
Speaker 4: have to be able to successfully execute and be able

2692
02:35:20,959 --> 02:35:24,279
Speaker 4: to take the good with the bad and be indifferent

2693
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:28,560
Speaker 4: and just you know, living down your own iniquity and

2694
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:31,280
Speaker 4: know that the justice is the reward or penalty for

2695
02:35:31,360 --> 02:35:32,480
Speaker 4: one's actions of deeds.

2696
02:35:32,560 --> 02:35:33,800
Speaker 5: A lot of times niggas.

2697
02:35:33,520 --> 02:35:37,920
Speaker 4: Don't even understand. They it's going to blame everybody else

2698
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:38,920
Speaker 4: for their shortcomings.

2699
02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:39,760
Speaker 5: Men don't do that.

2700
02:35:41,320 --> 02:35:44,680
Speaker 4: Male adults do that until you understand the difference, and

2701
02:35:44,760 --> 02:35:47,520
Speaker 4: you could do that. Don't talk that man shit. To

2702
02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:49,440
Speaker 4: me because I got kids that I got a raise

2703
02:35:49,520 --> 02:35:51,480
Speaker 4: to be men straight up. You know what I'm saying.

2704
02:35:51,879 --> 02:35:55,120
Speaker 4: I've watched my brothers defending the integrity as men, and

2705
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:57,240
Speaker 4: they will definitely let you know that you can get

2706
02:35:57,280 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 4: your face broke. We ain't here to start the trouble.

2707
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:04,280
Speaker 3: We don't want to, but we will handle will handle it.

2708
02:36:04,680 --> 02:36:08,400
Speaker 5: And it's important that we understand the difference that gangster

2709
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:09,320
Speaker 5: ship is not.

2710
02:36:09,440 --> 02:36:12,200
Speaker 3: It laid out, be a man, talk about it.

2711
02:36:12,280 --> 02:36:14,440
Speaker 4: You don't need to be a gangster. You don't need

2712
02:36:14,520 --> 02:36:16,080
Speaker 4: to be trying to fight. You don't need to even

2713
02:36:16,120 --> 02:36:18,760
Speaker 4: get in trouble. Liabilities ain't getting to the bag. You

2714
02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:21,760
Speaker 4: got the bag running from you when you are liability.

2715
02:36:21,920 --> 02:36:24,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's make it to where being smart is cool again.

2716
02:36:24,320 --> 02:36:25,800
Speaker 5: Let's make it the way being smarter.

2717
02:36:26,360 --> 02:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Ye, don't let you today's decisions affect your futureself.

2718
02:36:35,480 --> 02:36:38,440
Speaker 1: You can catch this on all the smoke production you two. Man,

2719
02:36:38,480 --> 02:36:41,640
Speaker 1: this is another legend theory. Bust the rhymes in the building.

2720
02:36:41,680 --> 02:36:41,800
Speaker 5: Man.

2721
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:42,840
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.