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Speaker 1: It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to betting Pros. It's me Joey p joe Pisapia,

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Speaker 1: and we've got a great show for you today. It

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Speaker 1: is me, it is Dan Harris, and it's you, and

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Speaker 1: we're talking major League Baseball. Dan Harris and I are

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Speaker 1: going to take you through the winners for the divisions,

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Speaker 1: the odds that we like. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: World Series and playoffs as well, and we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the big awards. We're talking MVP, Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year, Cy Young, all the biggies. So, Dan Harris,

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Speaker 1: it's a little betting pro's action for you today. Are

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Speaker 1: you excited to talk a little baseball here and change

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Speaker 1: things up? Because I know it's March nevery long. Everyone

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Speaker 1: wants to talk about is basketball, but I don't. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk some baseball today.

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Speaker 2: I have been enjoying March madness. I will admit even

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Speaker 2: more than I usually do. But now now I am ready.

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Speaker 2: We are recording this on Tuesday. The season starts on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I am ready to go. I have very strong feelings

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Speaker 2: on a lot of this stuff. So let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I like when Dan has strong feelings. That's what I like.

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Speaker 1: I don't like weak feelings. You take those weak feelings

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Speaker 1: to get out of my show. Get out, Get out

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Speaker 1: with the weak feelings. Only the strong survive here. And

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Speaker 1: of course, if you want to get some of these

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Speaker 1: odds here, the great thing about Betting Pros is it

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Speaker 1: takes all the different ads from all these different places.

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Speaker 1: You get the Betting Pros consensus lines too, and then

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Speaker 1: you can look for lines that you want to exploit. Basically,

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Speaker 1: whether it be on FanDuel or DK or Fox Better

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Speaker 1: or MGM, all these kind of different sites, they've got

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Speaker 1: them all here in one condensed spot on Betting Pros.

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Speaker 1: And that's why you hang out with us here on

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Speaker 1: the show. So let's start with the American League East.

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Speaker 1: The Yankees are a consensus minus two hundred. That's no fun.

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Speaker 1: Then the Rays plus three fifty, the Blue Jays are

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Speaker 1: the same plus three fifty, Red Sox at twenty to one,

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Speaker 1: and the Orioles forget it, five hundred million to.

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Speaker 2: They don't have a number high enough for the orders.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's actually broken. The site's it's plus fifty two

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Speaker 1: hundred just in case you wanted to see it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about the Yankees, Dan, because you

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Speaker 1: always pay attacks on the Yankees because they're the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: and you know, to wager two hundred just to wait

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Speaker 1: one hundred. To me, I'm never a big fan of that.

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Speaker 1: And plus the Yankees have some question marks in that rotation.

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Speaker 1: got Klueber's health, you got whether or not herman, can

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Speaker 1: you know, do it for a whole season? And I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Man, this just does not feel like a

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Speaker 1: smart wager to me. Now that being said, that kind

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Speaker 1: of opens the door for maybe the Rays or maybe

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. So do you have any feelings about

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Speaker 1: either of these two? We're both basically at three and

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Speaker 2: I said I had strong feelings about this is not

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Speaker 2: a division of strong feelings. To be as fair as possible,

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Speaker 2: I will have it later. I agree with you. The

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Speaker 2: Yankees at minus two hundred definitely not worth it. Do

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Speaker 2: I think they're the favorite to win the division? I do,

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Speaker 2: but it's not something that I feel comfortable enough with

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays at plus three fifty. Now, the Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: consensus line is three to fifty. You look at the

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Speaker 2: different books which we have on bettingpros dot Com at BETMGM,

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Speaker 2: theyre plus four fifty and at points bet their plus

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Blue Jays here. I think

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Speaker 1: Now on the central side, the White Sox consensus minus

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Speaker 2: Cleveland is my favorite bet actually at plus seven hundred

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Speaker 1: Pitching two. I mean, they've always got good starting pitching.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a huge polea sack guy, but no, but

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Speaker 2: But again, their bullpen's pretty good. Karen Jak has some

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Speaker 2: at plus seven hundred, those are the odds I like best.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good middle up up the middle defense too,

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Speaker 1: the Astros are the favorite at plus one twenty five,

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Speaker 1: the A's plus one forty five. Again this is the

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Speaker 1: still the stay away. If anything, I would still go

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Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people want them to.

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Speaker 1: But I still think they're very good and I think

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Speaker 1: Dusty Baker's gonna have them right back in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and I do think they're gonna win this division. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going chalk here with the Astros. What do you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. I'm on the Astros and

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Speaker 2: know they're the favorite at plus one twenty five as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, and again, you can't get much better than that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe plus one thirty out there at bet MGM, but

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Speaker 2: that's pretty much where you're at. But I still think

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Speaker 2: there's value there the A's. Look, they always outperform what

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Speaker 2: they're supposed to do, but they're just not going to

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Speaker 2: be as good as they have been in previous years.

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Speaker 2: They would need a lot of things to go right.

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Speaker 2: I think losing Hendrix at the back end of that bullpen.

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Speaker 2: I know Trevor Rosenthal is there but they're not the

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Speaker 1: Wow, I love that. That would be a great story.

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Speaker 1: The Braves at plus one twenty consensus number one, while

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Speaker 1: Brewers at plus three hundreds, the consensus for them, Reds

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Speaker 2: Freddy peralta guy like I've never liked him, but I

427
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 2: don't know. I like what I've seen a lot in

428
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,639
Speaker 2: this spring, so I'm kind of excited to see what

429
00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 2: he can do. So Brewers, this is not close to me.

430
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,600
Speaker 2: Brewers at plus three hundred is the bet that I

431
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,680
Speaker 2: love in this division.

432
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent here. All right,

433
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,880
Speaker 1: let's go to the West, which is basically a two

434
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,400
Speaker 1: team race. I mean, the Giants are fifty to one,

435
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,000
Speaker 1: the d Backs are fifty to one, the Rockies are

436
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 1: fifty one. I think we can all kind of dismiss them.

437
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,440
Speaker 1: It's whether or not you want to pay the premium

438
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,879
Speaker 1: on the Dodgers, which is minus two fifty. So for

439
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 1: those of you are new, it's putting two fifty down

440
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,919
Speaker 1: to win Andre That doesn't seem like a good day

441
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 1: at the office, no matter how good the Dodgers are.

442
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,080
Speaker 1: Or to have a little fun with the Padres at

443
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,200
Speaker 1: the plus two hundred, now here's the thing. It would

444
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,119
Speaker 1: be fun to play around with the Padres. But I

445
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,880
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, the Dodgers still

446
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,560
Speaker 1: win this division. So for me, I'm gonna stay away

447
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,359
Speaker 1: from the West because it's just not Now. If the

448
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,120
Speaker 1: Padres were three or four to one, yeah, okay, now

449
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of listening. But two to one, it's kind

450
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 1: of like it's okay. But so many things would have

451
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 1: to go wrong for the Dodgers. You'd have to have

452
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 1: Kershaw with the back issue. You'd have to have Walker

453
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 1: Bueller continue to be bad like he's been in spring.

454
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 1: You'd have to have Trevor Bauer, you know, be bad

455
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: Trevor Bauer, and maybe a Cody Bellinger injury. Like you

456
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,199
Speaker 1: have to have all these things happen, but I don't know.

457
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 1: I just don't see a world where the Dodgers aren't

458
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 1: winning this division. So I'm just gonna pass on this one.

459
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 2: We talked about the fact that Dustin May was named

460
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 2: the fifth starter, and I was like, cool, that change

461
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 2: is absolutely nothing for me because I know that they're

462
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 2: going to have all tho those guys start with David

463
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 2: Price in Gonsolan. It means nothing. This is a team

464
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,200
Speaker 2: there was ever a team that's built for every part

465
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,919
Speaker 2: of the season. There. They have so much depth, so

466
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 2: much would have to go wrong for them to not

467
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,880
Speaker 2: win the division. But at minus two fifty, come, what's

468
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 2: the point? You know, it's just not something I want

469
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 2: to do because the Padres are a very good team.

470
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 2: But again, yeah, it's just to stay away. I mean,

471
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,159
Speaker 2: I'm not sprinkling at all on you know, the Giants

472
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 2: or the d Becks or the Rockies or plus five thousand.

473
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 2: It's just not worth it. There's no chance. So for me, yeah,

474
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: just not a bet. I mean, if you want to

475
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 2: get in on the Dodgers, as we'll talk about in

476
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: a little bit, for like the World Series or the league, fine,

477
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 2: but to win the division forget about it, just stay.

478
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 1: Away, all right. So that'll bring us to the National

479
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: League Winner, where the Dodgers are obviously the favorites to

480
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: defend their crown at plus one seventy five the Padres.

481
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 1: Now here's where I like the Padres. Plus three ninety.

482
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 1: This is where I'm listening because look at this pitching

483
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: staff in a short series. Look, they could even bring

484
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: up the Mackenzie Gore at some point, right. They've got

485
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 1: all this depth. They got guys like C. J. Abrams

486
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues too, Like if they need something,

487
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: they can go down and pluck it and they can

488
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: fill the holes. I do think at some point in

489
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 1: time they will get better in the bullpen, I really do.

490
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be pegana moll Hanson when

491
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: all said and done. I don't know who it's going

492
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: to be, but it's.

493
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: Not gonna hate the bullpen, by the way. I mean,

494
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 2: if Palmerance is healthy and he's pitching right now, I

495
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 2: don't hate it.

496
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't They're gonna go in on somebody. I don't

497
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: know who it's gonna be.

498
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: You can tell they're not holding back this season, and

499
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: they've got.

500
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: The chips to move to do it, to make it

501
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: all work. And that's the other thing too. That's why

502
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 1: I like Toronto, you know, because I feel like they

503
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: can keep the aggressive. So the Dodgers plus one seventy five,

504
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: the Padres three to ninety, the Braves are five to one,

505
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: the Mets are at plus five twenty five, the Cardinals

506
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: ten to fifty, the Reds blah blah blah. So let's

507
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: be realistic here. I don't like any of the long shots.

508
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 1: If you want to play around with the Nationals and

509
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: that narrative at twenty to one, okay, because once again

510
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: you get the Nats in a short series with a

511
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: healthy Strasbourg, Corbin and Max Scherzer. Yikes, Like that is

512
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot to deal with. So I get that long

513
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: shot in the National League. That's the only long shot

514
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: of all these I like. But to me, that Padres

515
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: at plus three ninety, that pitching those four guys we've

516
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: talked about before with Musgrove, with Snell, Darvish and Chris Paddock.

517
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 1: I like this group. I think they're they're hungry, they're

518
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: ready to go, and I think they will add more pieces,

519
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: which is kind of scary when you think about it.

520
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: And they're good defensive team too. Hosmer at first is

521
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: really good defensive player to tease the Machad. All these guys,

522
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: very good defensive team. So I like the Padres. Where

523
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 1: are you leaning for the National League Crown?

524
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: My worry with the Padres is again I don't think

525
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna win the division, which means they've got to

526
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: get through a wildcard, which means it's just automatically an

527
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: extra variable that we may not see. Now again, do

528
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 2: they have the staff? Oh? Sure, you can start darbashing

529
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 2: that game and you're going to be the favorite no

530
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 2: matter who you're facing. So I don't mind them at

531
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 2: three ninety if we are talking a long shop. By

532
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: the way, you did mention Nationals, which again at plus

533
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: two thousand. But I also kind of like the Brewers

534
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: at plus twenty five hundred because I do think they

535
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 2: will win their division, and if they win their division,

536
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: if they add a real a starter, if they're able

537
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: to sort of make a move at the deadline, they

538
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: could become a true powerhouse. But outside of that, I

539
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: actually kind of like the Mets at plus five twenty five.

540
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 2: And the reason is I think it's probably at this

541
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: point they're probably like, I don't know. They obviously have

542
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: a decent chance to win their division for everything goes well.

543
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 2: Now you want to talk about the playoffs, You've got

544
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 2: the best pitcher in baseball who you're going to be

545
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: favored when you get there. The Mets have not only

546
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: the money, but they have enough in the farm system

547
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: to be able to take a move at the deadline.

548
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: And again the money thing, Joe, this is what I

549
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 2: screamed about with the Wilponds. Joe and I both Mets founds.

550
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: By the way, if you have not heard that before, miserable,

551
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: miserable human beings and baseball fans. But you now have

552
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: Steve Cohen, who oh, are you trying to give somebody away?

553
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: So we cannot have to really give up grade a prospects,

554
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: But you need somebody to take on salary. Great, we

555
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: can do that because money is irrelevant. That's great. You

556
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: can do that at the deadline hopefully. And also, who

557
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: hopefully will come back in the middle of the year

558
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: is Noah Cindergarten. You add to him Carrasco and suddenly,

559
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: if those guys are all healthy, you've got to get

560
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: through to gram and Carrasco and Cinderguard and hopefully Stroman,

561
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,239
Speaker 2: who I think is going to take a step up.

562
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: That's a really really good rotation and a team that

563
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 2: could make some noise. So for me, I think there's

564
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: a good chance the Mets are going to get into

565
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: the rotation into the playoffs, and if they do, I

566
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 2: think they have a team that's kind of built for it.

567
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: So I kind of like them, Like I like them

568
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: much better than the Braves at plus five hundred, because

569
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: you talked about it. You worry about the Braves a

570
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: little bit once you get to the playoffs. Once you

571
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs. For the Mets, I feel good

572
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: about it, So I do like them a little bit.

573
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: At plus five twenty five.

574
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: I certainly hope so. I haven't seen them win a

575
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: World Series since I was eight years old, so you

576
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: could do the math on the folks, all right. So

577
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: to win it all the World Series, the Dodgers plus

578
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: three fifty, the Yankees at five p fifty, the Padres

579
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: at eight hundred, the White Sox at eight to fifty.

580
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Then the Braves are ten to one, Mets are ten

581
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: to one, Twins are twenty to one. Astros twenty two,

582
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,239
Speaker 1: Blue Jays, twenty two Cards, twenty two, and then they

583
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: get to the twenty five then over starting with the

584
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: Rays and A's and Nationals at plus thirty three hundred.

585
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: So for me, obviously, I've kind of mapped out my

586
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: White Sox Padres World Series, which I would very much

587
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: like to see. I think that would be good fun.

588
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: They're both kind of the same here plus eight hundred

589
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: plus eight to fifty at the end of the day. Look,

590
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: I think the White Sox are just that lineup that

591
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: doesn't quit, and I think that the pitching staff is

592
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: very good. The Padres are there too. I think you

593
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: could kind of hedge with either one of these and

594
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: bet them at the top of the season, both of them.

595
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 1: I think one of them might actually come in there potentially.

596
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling the Yankees and Dodgers that I'm just

597
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm not buying the big time teams here in the

598
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: chalk on this one this year. Give me the Podgers

599
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: of the White Sox. I think those are my two

600
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: favorite picks on the board. Do you have Are you

601
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: sticking with your mets here, because certainly ten to one,

602
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: that's you know, put one hundred bucks that's a pretty

603
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: good term.

604
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Mets at plus a thousand

605
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: are a pretty decent bet. I do prefer Again, I've

606
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: talked about all the teams obviously, so it's going to

607
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: be where I was leaning to with the you know,

608
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: winners of the National League in the American League, and

609
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: I do like the Astros a plus twenty two hundred

610
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: because I do think that this is a team that

611
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: could really really They're going to add somebody if they're

612
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: in there, they're going to add somebody. Their lineup is

613
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: deep and can do some real damage. Again, they were

614
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: terrible last year and they came real close to moving on.

615
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: So for me, my favorite bet of it is the

616
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: Astros at plus twenty two hundred for you know the reasons.

617
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: At number one, I feel pretty confident that they're going

618
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 2: to win the Division. Two, I feel pretty confident that

619
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: they're going to add a significant piece at some point

620
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: during the season and again get over Lander back, which

621
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: is I don't know if that's a ball prediction. I

622
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: know I love it.

623
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: It's bold.

624
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: I like it because Verlander is like not human and

625
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: I think if you're like hi, it's been more than

626
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: a year since.

627
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: I just took him for a buck in my home

628
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: fantasy league at the end of the auction where nobody

629
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: had any more money and I was the last person

630
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: with money, and I was like, I'm gonna go Justin

631
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: Verlander for a buck if which is again next year,

632
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: that's a heck of a keep.

633
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you give it you, you give this

634
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: guy where you're basically like, hey, what every other day,

635
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna give him an inning in that bullpen and

636
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna be throwing ninety miles. Now, I mean that

637
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: that's a that's kind of a game changer when you

638
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs. So for me, I will My

639
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: favorite World Series bet based on the odds is the

640
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: astros a plus twenty two hundred.

641
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the odds for MVP will

642
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: start in the American League trout or the field. Basically,

643
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean.

644
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: That the odds are like, what is trout to twenty

645
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: or something.

646
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: That's twenty five? After that, it's Aaron Judge is the

647
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: consensus at plus twelve. Again, the Yankee tacks Jose Ramirez

648
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: at plus twelve, which, again, if you think the Indians

649
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: really have a chance, yeah, he was in this conversation

650
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: last year. You got Bregman at twelve, you got Rendona fifteen,

651
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: Chapman a fifth fifteen, Otani a plus twenty, which is

652
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: that's the one that again, if he can pitch one

653
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: hundred innings and drive in one hundred runs, how is

654
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: he not the MVP of the league. That is my

655
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: case for the show. Aotani dart throw, now that's risky,

656
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: but you're getting twenty to one on it, and Jose

657
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: bre You the defending champ, there is plus twenty five,

658
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny to me that he doesn't

659
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: get more respect he should personally. But a bray you

660
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: and Otani are fascinating long shots. You know you're getting

661
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: basically the simple two to one with Mike Trouts if

662
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: you want to bet big on Mike Trout in the

663
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: plus two twenty five. Okay, but how do you see

664
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: the al MVP race?

665
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: I see it as something where I hate it, Like

666
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: I really just don't like it because I do think

667
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: that it and again.

668
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: It's sink or swim. There's no you know, there's no

669
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: in between where you can like find that in between.

670
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Nice ways. Yeah, that's a good smart investment. It's like

671
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: it's Mike Trout of the field. It's back to the

672
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: old Tiger Wood days.

673
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: And I think what you really need to do at

674
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: this point if you're not gonna go with Mike Trout

675
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: is this is the problem with this is it's a

676
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: it's a it's an award that's voted on, right, so

677
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: you have to think about you know, the what are

678
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: people going to be thinking about.

679
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: It's the award like OWI because to me, that is

680
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: the story of twenty twenty one.

681
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: If that happens, it's a good point. My only thing is, like, man,

682
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: he has to absolutely explode because on his own team

683
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: is Mike Trout, and so you really have to dominate

684
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: my Trout.

685
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: Don't pitch.

686
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: It's lot of courds. He probably could know if he

687
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: was there. So look at when I was looking at it,

688
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: I think Jose Ramirez again, you'd have to see something

689
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: where a guy is really responsible for his team's surprising success.

690
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez is a good one. Matt Chapman again, it's

691
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: only it's a little short. I was surprised if it

692
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: was only plus fifteen hundred. But he's a guy with

693
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: his defense, you know, especially adding on on the war.

694
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: If the A's do surprise, he could be somebody. And

695
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: the only other guy I kind of thought of, is

696
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: this a guy who everybody waits for. You know, the

697
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: breakout's going to happen at some point. If it does

698
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: happen this year and his team overperforms, and that's Laddie,

699
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: it's a plus twenty five hundred. Again, if he does

700
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: suddenly live up to his potential and the Blue Jays

701
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: somehow win that division, and you know odds that you liked,

702
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: it's a little tough because their lineup is really very,

703
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: very good, So he'd have to really really stand out

704
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: among a lot of very quality hitters, with George Springer especially.

705
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: But again, if he does and if he lives up

706
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: his potential, and if they win that division, he could

707
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: win it. So plus twenty five hundred, that's really the

708
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: only one I might take a shot on.

709
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the National League, which is

710
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: very different, way more wide open YEP consensus. Mookie Betts

711
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: is plus seven fifty, Juan Soto my one to one,

712
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: plus seven to fifty. Cody Bellinger at eight, which I

713
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: don't think is a great wager. Talked about his health

714
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, Ronald Acunia plus eight hundred, Tetis

715
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: Junior plus eight to fifty, Freddy Freeman at twelve, Noan

716
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: Aernato at twelve, Lindora at plus twelve hundred, and yell

717
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: At at plus twelve hundred, not to mention the Rice

718
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Harper plus fifteen. This thing is wide open, and we

719
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about Manny Machado and some other guys

720
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: that could even kind of throw into this mix. But

721
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of you know, you could throw

722
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo in there too if you wanted to. But

723
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: to me, this is this is simple. This is I

724
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: think Juan Soto is the best player on his team.

725
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: I think he's the best player on the planet. So

726
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go plus them fifty. There. The other guy

727
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: that would be my number two ranking here in wagers

728
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: would be Fernando Tatis Junior plus eight to fifty because

729
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: he's kind of becoming that new face of baseball. And

730
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a media narrative to the Padres this

731
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: year because they're fun and exciting and they're all in

732
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: and you know, the snazzy new uniforms they debuted last year.

733
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: There's there's juice there. Okay, when it comes to Fernando

734
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: Tatis Junior and when you go to Acunya and Freeman again,

735
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: same team, Bellinger bets it's always tough when they're on

736
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: the same team. To me, it's Tatis and Jansto. I'm

737
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna go with Sodo as my number one. How do

738
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: you see National League working out?

739
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: Soto is also my number one because he I don't

740
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: think the Nationals have to win that division, even for

741
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 2: him to win it if he has a monstrous yere

742
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: like I mean, his trajectory is otherworldly at this point,

743
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: and they are just better than you think. They win

744
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: eighty eight games, but they lose the division, you know,

745
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: in the last weekend or something like that. That should

746
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: be enough for him to get it. So at plus

747
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: seven to fifty, I do like him. There the other

748
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: guy who I'm looking at it, And again this goes

749
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: into maybe I'm just a Brewers homer this year. Who

750
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: knows would be Yelich just because sure he's won it,

751
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: but you've said Yelich is the guy on that team,

752
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: right if that team does, if there's one guy on

753
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: that team who could go crazy, And again, he has

754
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: performed at an MVP level for two years straight, and

755
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: then you had last year, which was just I'm throwing

756
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: it out, forget it. If he gets back to what

757
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: he can do at plus twelve hundred, I'm willing to

758
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: go with that. I don't mind tattoos either, by the way,

759
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: but Sodo is my number one at plus seven to fifty,

760
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: and then Yelich at plus twelve hundred is my second favorite.

761
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the cy Young. And

762
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: if you pay attention to sy Young, you know these

763
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: usually come in bunches. So although Garrett Cole is one

764
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: of the best pitchers in baseball plus three fifties, that

765
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: consensus number, Shane Bieber is four to one at plus

766
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: four hundred. That's where my money's going. It's going to Biber.

767
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: I think we're in the Shane Bieber cycle right now.

768
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: It just feels like that watching him this spring. The

769
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: guy is just so good. Gilito's at four to fifty

770
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: glass now I just don't think he's gonna throw enough innings.

771
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: So he's nine to fifty. Then Ryu thirteen hundred, and

772
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Lance Lynn's seventeen hundred, along with Barrios and my Ada,

773
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: so This is kind of a two man race as

774
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. Even Gilito's great and all, but

775
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Bieber. That's where I'm gonna lean.

776
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the four to one, how about you.

777
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Realistically, it's very difficult to make a case for

778
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: anybody other than those two guys, because this year, especially,

779
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: you are going to deal with innings concerns with almost

780
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: every pitcher and probably not those two guys. They're gonna

781
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: pitch a lot of innings and that's just gonna make

782
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: a difference. And I will say that I feel like

783
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: the you know who, Brian Kenny used to go on

784
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: the rant about kill the win, right.

785
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: Kill the win.

786
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: But voters have have wised up, you know. They they

787
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: they now look beyond just the classic stuff, and I

788
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: know they're going to realize the impact of innings. So realistically,

789
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: it probably is one of those two guys, and I

790
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: would favor Bieber at plus four hundred. I really like Gilito,

791
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: but his odds are it just had four to fifty

792
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: is just not worth it. Like I you know, if

793
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: it was.

794
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: Double that, if it was seven fifty or something like that,

795
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: I'd be more exactly.

796
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: But at four fifty, I'm surprised. I mean it's too close.

797
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean tells you how good Giolito is.

798
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: It does I'm surprised, though I didn't think. And again Glass,

799
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: now I also like a little bit. But at plus

800
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: nine fifty, again not there. If I'm going to go

801
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: for a long shot, it's a guy who I really

802
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: like this here, and that's Lance mccullor's at plus four thousand,

803
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: and I think again, what would have to happen is

804
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: mccullor's I think he threw fifty five somewhere around those

805
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: indings last year. He'd have to add at least one hundred,

806
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: maybe one hundred and ten. And I'm not saying he

807
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: will or won't. I don't know what necessarily their plan

808
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: is with him. But if he does, and if he

809
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: does take that next step, and again, this is a

810
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: guy I look around. He's plus four thousand, is consensus.

811
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: At fox Bett it's plus six thousand, So there, I

812
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: would definitely just do a little taste at that point.

813
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 2: But again, realistically it's Cohl or Bieber, and I would

814
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: side with Bieber overcall like.

815
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: You with amazing. I think about Gi Alito. Heavity's stuck

816
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: on that national's rotation, and they didn't deal him for

817
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: Adam Eaton. How different things might be here? And now,

818
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean, really, you know, I talked about it the

819
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: other day on another show here, which is if you

820
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: think it back to that, if you know, Anthea and

821
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: Don probably would have stayed, they would have paid him

822
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: as so as Strasbourg if they had Gilito, and that

823
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: would have been a far better investment. But they dealt

824
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: three pitching prospects for Adam Eaton. I just yeah, all right,

825
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: National League Cy Young plus four to twenty five for

826
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Jacob Degroma. Are we still in the d gram window? Well?

827
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: Vegas seems to think so. Trevor Bauer plus seven hundred, No, thanks,

828
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. It's a good odd too, it

829
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: really is. Seven to one is nice. Max Scherzer plus

830
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: nine to fifty is also very intriguing. Walker Buehler at

831
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: ten to one, at plus one thousand, you Darvish is

832
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: at plus twelve hundred. This is the one I like

833
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: the most. I'm sicking with this, you Darvish narrative. I

834
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: just think people don't realize that, you know, and sometimes

835
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: people get tired of voting for the same guy. And

836
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: if you Darvish really hasn't Like Let's say you Darvish

837
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: wins twenty games and his peripherals are similar to de

838
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: Gram and de Grom wins sixteen. They're gonna give it

839
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: to you, Darvish, because winning twenty games in twenty twenty

840
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: one is hard. It is a hard thing to do.

841
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't look at Nola or Snell. I mean, I

842
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: know you're a Snell guy, Strasbourg or even Charlie Mood.

843
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: I think these are all just long shots. I think

844
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: it's de Groam. I think Scherzer is going to get

845
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: into that conversation. But at the end of the day,

846
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: I think Darvish and deGrom is where I would kind

847
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: of spend my money. How do you see National League

848
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: SciTE young working out?

849
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: I think de Gram should be like a shorter favorite.

850
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: I think he should be at least like three to

851
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: one or under like I'm you know, and you can

852
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: find plus three point fifty at FanDuel for him. That's

853
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: about Yeah, you know, that's as bad as it gets

854
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: bad as it gets there.

855
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the consensus line is four twenty five. That's where

856
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: it is at most it's crazy, there's value on that.

857
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: De Gram is the obvious choice because I mean, not

858
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: only has he shown no slippage in his performance, but

859
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 2: he looks better than ever, like he's just going going.

860
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: And you know, you think about a guy like de Grom,

861
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: who again was not a pitcher originally, he does. He

862
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 2: was injured, so he doesn't have a ton of miles

863
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: on his arm. He could have several years left of this.

864
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: He's just so much better than the field wings on,

865
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: so I would go with him. I don't hate Darvish whatsoever.

866
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: I do like Snell as well, which you know, again

867
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: we have seen the upside of Snell, so I do

868
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: like him. And again I don't mind Morton at twenty

869
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: two hundred because I do think that again, innings are

870
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: gonna make a difference. Is here. I expect a guy

871
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: like Morton who was injured last year, but when you

872
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: saw his velocity come back in the postseason, you saw

873
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: his performance come back as well, maybe the last year

874
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: of his career. They're gonna let him pitch as much

875
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: as he can, so if he is able to get

876
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: out there with one hundred and seventy one hundred and

877
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: eighty innings, because what's the need to save Charlie Morton

878
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: and he does get back to what he does best,

879
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: he's got a shot there. But realistically, to Gram at

880
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: plus four twenty five, there's massive amounts of value on

881
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: that still at this point, and he would be the

882
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: real guy. If I only had one pick to make,

883
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: it would be that.

884
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: All right. Moving on to the Rookie of the Year

885
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: in the American League, Randy Rose Arena my goodness, plus

886
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: three point fifty the consensus top. I am fading this

887
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: so hard. I'm just fading it all together. Jared Kelnick

888
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: is plus one thousand, wander Franco plus one thousand. I

889
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: do think you're gonna see Wander Franco this year. But

890
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: Andrew Vaughan at plus eleven consensus, by the way, you

891
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: can get him at plus twenty to one on places

892
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: like bet MGM. Yeah, oh my goodness, he's gonna be

893
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: playing for day one. This is to me one of

894
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: my favorite things we're gonna talk about today, because Andrewon's

895
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: gonna get the abs. He's gonna be there from day one.

896
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: He's got a ton of line up support. It's Andrew

897
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: Vaughan I'm sorry, and if it's not, I'll take the

898
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: heat on it. Yep, but mis has been terrible, Pearson's hurt.

899
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: Rutchman and Malcastle play for the Orioles, and I just

900
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna really make that kind of a

901
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: big jump. And I like kirol Off, but he's not

902
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: gonna be starting day one. Interesting McKenzie is a nice

903
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: pitcher to me, it's Andrew Vaughn and stand back and

904
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: Wander Franco is probably the higher rated prospect, and he

905
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: should be. But Andrew Vaughn I think is the best

906
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: set up this year to win Rookie of the Year.

907
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: Absolute agree. I mean he's going to start the year

908
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: in the majors almost certainly. I mean, as we record this,

909
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's been officially announced yet. But

910
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: he's been playing the outfield as well, which apparently he's

911
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: not terrible at, which is a little surprising to me.

912
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That is awesome, bar true, the bar exceptionally low.

913
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: Lo He is gonna play and he can hit, I mean,

914
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: without a doubt heating it. I have no doubt that

915
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 2: he's gonna end the Major so at plus eleven hundred yeah,

916
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: there is. And again you mentioned it, bet mg M

917
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: plus two thousand all day long. I love that, I will.

918
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: I don't mind, Kira lof you mentioned it. He is

919
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: not starting in the majors. I did not expect him

920
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: to start in the majors this year. They'll buy the

921
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: extra year of control. He also made it easier for them.

922
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: But the fact that he had a terrible spring, but

923
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: his minor league track record shows.

924
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: That he can't play.

925
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: It's Jake Cave and left field. They're going to need

926
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: to win to be able to keep up with the

927
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: White Sox, so I think he's going to be up

928
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: in like three weeks.

929
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Would Jake Cave sound like a like a fake singer

930
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: from a Disney Channel show? Like I just felt, I

931
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: don't know, like.

932
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: Wherever you were, wherever you were going with that, I

933
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: was going to find it humorous because you could go

934
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: anywhere you want with Jake.

935
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: Color's Jake Cave. He's the coolest guy on campus.

936
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: So whatever he is, he's going to be. He's going

937
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: to be out of a job in three weeks as

938
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: my guess. And I think ki av hit as soon

939
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: as he gets there. But he is not good defensively either.

940
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: So again I think it's Vonn because you know you've

941
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: got it. But at plus two thousand, I wouldn't mind

942
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 2: taking a shot at Kilof as well.

943
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: All right, So let's close things out here at National

944
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: League Rooki of the Year, could Brian Hayes a plus

945
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: three fifty the favorite, which is yep, I'm fine with this.

946
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: It's good. It's fine. Six Do Sanchez a plus five hundred.

947
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: I love six Do Sanchez, but I don't know if

948
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: this is where I want to go. Dylan Carlson is

949
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: plus seven hundred, and then wait, Ian Anderson plus seventy fifty.

950
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me. Ian Anderson's a brave Have

951
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: we not seen how many brave rookiy of the Years

952
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: we've had in our lifetime? I mean, look, you want

953
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: to build a narrative. This is a good team. It's

954
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: going to be winning probably ninety plus games, and Ian

955
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: Anderson is gonna be a big part of it. So

956
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: as much as I love the talent of Cabrian Hayes,

957
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: Ian Anderson is my wager here. If you want to

958
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: look past this, you're looking at Joey Barton, Pasha and

959
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Stevenson and Hassy Young Kim hasn't hit a damn

960
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: thing this spring, and Spencer Howard is already sent down.

961
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Same thing with Gore. So like to me, it's Ian Anderson.

962
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: If you want to make a case for Dylan Carlson

963
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: or Cabrian Hayes, the floor is yours. But I'm gonna

964
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: go with the pitcher.

965
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ian Anderson is my favorite at plus seven to fifteen,

966
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: and again we both like him. We do a lot

967
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: of fantasy work, and you know when you do that,

968
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: you really have to dig in to all of these pitchers,

969
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: and it just again we I think we both had

970
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: the same feeling on him, which is when we started

971
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: sort of our preparation for the twenty twenty one baseball season,

972
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: we did not like Ian Anderson, and by the time

973
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: we were done with it, we loved Ian Anderson. Now

974
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: there is a bottom out situation here, for sure. He

975
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: struggles with the control. His control isn't great the spring,

976
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: but still he's really really good in the Braves rotation

977
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: at plus seven to fifty. I like it. The only

978
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: other one I would I would take a shot on

979
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: is the favorite Cobrian Hayes because I'm I'm actually a

980
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: pretty big Cabrian Hayes.

981
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: And worry about the lack of line of protection.

982
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: Right, But I don't think that matters nearly as much

983
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: when you're talking about one of these individual awards that's

984
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: not an MVP award.

985
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: MVP no, no. I mean to support him having good stats,

986
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: because when you take away all the lineups likes no Marte,

987
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: there's no Josh Bell.

988
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: That lineup is abysmal.

989
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lineup is abysmal. And I wonder about that

990
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: because when the young kid does he start to go

991
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: fishing when they don't throw many fastballs anymore. That's why

992
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: I can, Sir Brian Hayes, that's it.

993
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: I think you know it's possible, but he certainly didn't

994
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: last year, which was you know, the lineup wasn't quite

995
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: as bad, but it was pretty bad. And I do

996
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: I like his talent. I like sort of the stack

997
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: cast ata that I saw. That makes me think. But

998
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: it's true, when you are a young player and you

999
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 2: are in a team that is absolutely terrible and you're

1000
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: the only hitter that can really do some damage, had

1001
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: chances or you're not gonna see some great pitches, and

1002
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: that might make you a little impatient, But at plus

1003
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: three fifty, I'm still willing to take the shot. I

1004
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: agree though that Ian Anderson at plus seven to fifty

1005
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: is my favorite. The only the other thing I do

1006
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: love six do Sanchez as well, But he's gonna start

1007
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: the year in you know, the either the alternate inside

1008
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: of the miners or whatever it is, just to build up,

1009
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: So it's going to be really difficult to see him

1010
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: topping like maybe one hundred and forty innings this year.

1011
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: They're gonna be careful with them. So for me, that

1012
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: takes me off of him at plus five hundred much

1013
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 2: prefer Anderson at plus seven fifty.

1014
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,200
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1015
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1017
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1018
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1019
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1020
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,960
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1021
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,360
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1022
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,840
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