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Speaker 2: away about all the city and county incompetence when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the fire response. And today we've got another

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Speaker 2: huge fire, the Hues Fire in the Staic area, which

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Speaker 2: if you don't know, is part of La County, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to be deling into La County's evacuation warning

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Speaker 2: failures in just a moment with Alex Stone. But this

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Speaker 2: fire is burning over five thousand acres and this thing

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Speaker 2: exploded five thousand acres in less than two hours, so

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Speaker 2: I imagine it could be a lot more than five

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Speaker 2: thousand right now. They're attacking it quite a bit from

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Speaker 2: the air to the two county super Scoopers are being used,

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Speaker 2: not so much on the ground because the terrain is

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Speaker 2: very difficult to deal with. There are a lot of

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Speaker 2: homes in jeopardy. In fact, they show video now on

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Speaker 2: Fox eleven where there's a lot of people running. It

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Speaker 2: looks like they're in might be a school building. I

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Speaker 2: know people are evacuating.

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Speaker 3: Well School, Mystic High School.

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Speaker 2: They're showing the crowds of kids and administrators and teachers

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Speaker 2: all crowded on the stairs and in the courtyards and

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Speaker 2: running down the street because depending which way you point

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Speaker 2: and black from the fire and the smoke.

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Speaker 4: KTLA is reporting nineteen thousand people have been evacuated so far.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen thousand instaic and they I mean, that's most of

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Speaker 2: the population. I'm just looking on Wikipedia. They have a

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Speaker 2: twenty ten census number of nineteen thousand. Nearly the whole

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Speaker 2: town has run out. We will Debra's on the case there.

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Speaker 2: Michael Monks in the KFI newsroom is on the case.

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Speaker 2: Alex Stone is with us from ABC News to talk

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Speaker 2: about this really shocking and disgusting story. La County sent

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Speaker 2: out evacuation warnings up to eight to nine hours late

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Speaker 2: to western Alta Dina, where most of the deaths happened

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Speaker 2: in that Eaton fire. Let's get alex on. Yeah, John,

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Speaker 2: some of them were late or not at all real quickly.

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Speaker 2: On the Hughes fire. It's going thirty acres a minute

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Speaker 2: right now, is the calculation that we just got. And

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Speaker 2: we just talked to La County Fire and they say

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Speaker 2: they're letting it push into Castaic Lake, that that is

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Speaker 2: the best thing that they can do. They cannot get

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Speaker 2: out in front of it. They don't know of anything

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Speaker 2: on the western side of the lake that has burned,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to be their objective here to make

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Speaker 2: sure it doesn't jump the lake, but that they want

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Speaker 2: to push into the lake, use that as a natural

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Speaker 2: That they're really focusing on right now, but on the

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Speaker 2: the eas alerts of the Outadena fires. So we all

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Speaker 2: know there were a lot of problems with the emergency alerts,

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Speaker 2: the ones that go off on your cell phone during

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Speaker 2: these fires, and some people just have them turned off.

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Speaker 2: You got to make sure the yours is on. Others

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Speaker 2: turned them off because they got annoyed by them. But

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Speaker 2: where the deaths were, west of Lake Avenue, and people

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Speaker 2: eight or nine hours late. This is what they're saying.

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Speaker 5: I'm very disappointed and angry about it because I feel

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Speaker 5: like had we gotten evacuation official notification, we would have

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Speaker 2: She says she never got in order to evacuate. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: This guy the same thing. It's disappointing. Look, the fire

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Speaker 2: I don't know what their resources were, I don't know

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Speaker 2: have the notice. Now, The La Times says he reviewed

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Speaker 2: they had to resend that one. And this is the

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Speaker 4: To say, I can't express enough how sorry I am

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Speaker 2: And he said the mistake and alerts were a technical

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Speaker 2: even humans doing it, which didn't really make any sense.

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Speaker 1: So in the computers, that doesn't help.

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Speaker 2: So the computers were doing this on their own sending

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Speaker 2: it out to everybody in La County. As these alerts

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Speaker 1: So okay, So they got to look into that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, why don't they have a person reviewing it right

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Speaker 2: when they are supposed to go out, that a human

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but back to the ones that didn't go out

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Speaker 2: So now La County Supervisor Catherine Barber, she is the

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Speaker 2: one leading the charge for an investigation, and she is

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Speaker 2: pushing it forward, says that there will be a third

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Speaker 2: party investigation. She's getting a lot of support from the

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Speaker 2: supervisors where they want to know why didn't the alerts

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Speaker 2: somebody clicked the wrong zone? Was it a technical thing?

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Speaker 1: They don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's important for us to gather all the back so

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Speaker 1: And I make you this promise that is going to

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Speaker 1: be my priority. Aready moving forward.

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Speaker 2: And today the sheriff reminded everybody that alert or not

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Speaker 2: that his deputies did and credit to them that they

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Speaker 2: saved a lot of lives by banging on doors getting

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Speaker 1: We know they did a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: He does want investigation, He says he wants to know

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Speaker 7: Looking at their faces, a lot of them looking into

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Speaker 2: And so there is going to be an investigation now

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Speaker 2: into the wireless emergency alerts and a lot they have

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Speaker 2: to learn. It seems like we don't know how to

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Speaker 2: and they got to figure that out.

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Speaker 1: This is just stunning.

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Speaker 2: For all the money we pay in taxes, I don't

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Speaker 2: lesson here is that if you are in to Stay

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Speaker 2: notification moment ago in northern parts of Santa Clarita underwarning now,

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Speaker 2: then when you're underwarning, get out of there. And this

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Speaker 2: Don't wait for that. If you can see the smoke

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Speaker 2: and you think it's heading your way, and whether it

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Speaker 2: be this or any fire, you feel like you're in danger,

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Speaker 2: just go because you may not. As we learned an

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Speaker 2: in Paradise, no warning may come, especially in the middle

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just use your senses like forest animals. Do

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Speaker 2: you hear something, you smell something, you see something, get out,

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Speaker 1: Go right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and on the huge fire and everybody on the

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Speaker 2: right now. But the hope is going to be that

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Speaker 2: And again they're letting it push into the lake. They

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Speaker 2: But there are there are a lot I could see

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Speaker 2: It's not moving south. It is going dead with the

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Speaker 2: reporting for KF five. There's a high wind warning in

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Speaker 2: effect for the Castaic area and much of northwest Los

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Speaker 2: from the northeast. It's pulling from the northeast to the southwest.

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Speaker 2: The gusts fifty to sixty miles an hour, and that's

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Speaker 2: to tomorrow afternoon. So you're looking about twenty four hours

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Speaker 2: of this kind of wind and a tremendous fire going

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Speaker 2: more when we come back. There's more to add to

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Speaker 2: what Alex reported on. The La Times did a story

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Speaker 2: and we got to talk about this government because this

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Speaker 2: government is failing over.

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Speaker 1: And over and over again.

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Speaker 2: But the La City and the La County government is

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Speaker 2: the Actually the City Council and the Board of Supervisors

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Speaker 2: should be declared individual disaster areas because it is. It

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Speaker 2: is shocking how many fallops there have been, just with

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Speaker 2: the Emergency Management Center and and and these these evacuation warnings.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't count on an accurate evacuation warning

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Speaker 2: or earthquake warning when it comes time.

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Speaker 8: For I told you last week when I was driving

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Speaker 2: Assemblyman Mike Gibson from Carson says, now more than ever,

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Speaker 1: Is there anybody for US taxpayers?

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Speaker 2: Like when fire breaks out in West Altadan, is there

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Speaker 1: What can you say here?

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Speaker 2: And here's a photo of them standing on the steps, one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: Over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: It's been broken that we know of, right ever since

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Speaker 2: I don't know how it's working for static, but I

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Speaker 2: We have to revert to our primitive ways because you

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Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four, and then

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Speaker 2: All right, so here's final Let me get to the

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Speaker 1: The fire was eight nine hours earlier.

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Speaker 2: the power had gone out, but that had happened a

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Speaker 2: Her husband comes in and says, Diana, you need to

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Speaker 2: fire was bearing down in their homes. It was seven

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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Eight and a half hours after they evacuated, they got

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Speaker 8: You know, we haven't really heard any updates, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what it's been a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: He didn't sound like the guy that was going to

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Speaker 2: I look at Firewatch right and they have broken up.

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Speaker 2: I guess you're using a government source. Every neighborhood has

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Speaker 2: And when and when the county or the city issues

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Speaker 8: Are connected, so you need the Genesis app for that.

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Speaker 2: That's what I figured out. So you could get the

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Speaker 8: Yes, because you put your address in there and a boom,

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Speaker 1: It took me three days to figure that out.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you should have asked me.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what to ask.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. I don't remember that watching watching the

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Speaker 8: I never really knew about watching the watch Judy app

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Watch Duty is actually the name of it. So

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Speaker 2: If I book an airline flight right, I very carefully

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Speaker 2: Uh you know XCEL three two five three that's Woodland

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Speaker 1: Right, right, that's what you do.

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Speaker 1: Well, it does it on its own. There's no human involved.

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Speaker 1: Well what the hell is that?

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Speaker 3: No, that needs to be fixed, that needs to be changed.

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Speaker 2: You got bad wiring, bad software, bad programming, bad something

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Speaker 2: So who in county government thinks this is a good idea?

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with you?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: They talk about I was at a community meeting last night,

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Speaker 1: Do you need to do.

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Speaker 2: An investigation to sit down the crying guy and say,

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Speaker 2: By now Here's yeah, but as a Friday it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: fire along the roadway, I'm looking at Fox eleven.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it is a massive fire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, more than five thousand acres.

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Speaker 2: Look at yeah, and it's it's all along the road.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what road that is. That is a

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Speaker 2: spectacular video there and they've got some firefighters and police

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Speaker 2: standing on the side of the road watching the fire.

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Speaker 2: It is a long, long trail of flames along the

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Speaker 2: hills and Kassak and there's a lot of thick smoke

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Speaker 2: blotting out the sky.

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Speaker 1: Wow, really does look like hell.

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Speaker 5: I mean the air.

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Speaker 8: Quality in southern California. I mean, how are we ever

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Speaker 8: going to get over this?

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Speaker 1: The Pitch's Detention Center is evacuating inmates.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's good, Well just let them out, right, any

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Speaker 4: volunteer firefighters in that bunch.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, can they do a quick check?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Instead of letting them out? Why don't they? Why don't they?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because there are inmates that were working in the US.

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Speaker 1: Let him stand there here, you figure it out. You're

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Speaker 1: on parole. So I'm looking. So these are the supervisors

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Speaker 1: and you probably don't know their names.

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Speaker 2: We have a really really fed up system of government

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Speaker 2: here because we have five supervisors and they each represent

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Speaker 2: almost two million people.

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Speaker 1: And that's the government in La now.

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Speaker 2: I apparently there was a vote on the ballot November

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Speaker 2: to introduce the concept of a county executive. But I

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Speaker 2: don't know what with the relationship he's going to have

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Speaker 2: with the board of supervisors. I mean, he's like the

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Speaker 2: business guy to execute the business of the county.

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Speaker 1: And he's elected.

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Speaker 2: But the way you have an Assembly and a state

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Speaker 2: Senate and then a governor right to ratify a law,

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Speaker 2: or you have a House of Representative as a Senate

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Speaker 2: and a president. We've never had like a single figure

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Speaker 2: who could take responsibility and sift through the nonsense that

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Speaker 2: the county passes. We've got Hilda Salase, she worked in

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Speaker 2: the Obama administration and was a congresswoman. Holly Mitchell, she

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Speaker 2: was a state senator and she was a legislative advocate.

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Speaker 2: Lindsey Horvath was West Hollywood City Council and mayor. Janis

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Speaker 2: Hahn was in Congress for five years and then the

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Speaker 2: city council for ten years. Actually reversed and now she's

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Speaker 2: a supervisor. Han Horvath, Mitchell and Solise are nuts. The

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Speaker 2: four of them are nuts, and there's nobody to override

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Speaker 2: their decisions.

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Speaker 1: There's no.

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Speaker 2: Governor, there's no president, there's no executive chief to say,

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Speaker 2: you people are crazy with the stuff you spend money on.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Parker is a normal person. But that emergency Management

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Speaker 2: center has to be completely completely bolded.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why it hasn't.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we've been dealing with this for you know,

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Speaker 8: two weeks seventy people.

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Speaker 1: Died out to Dina. All right, we got more.

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI.

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Speaker 2: Coming up right after three o'clock. Tom McClintock, the Northern

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Speaker 2: California congressman, who's an old friend of the show. We've

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Speaker 2: had him on for many, many years, and he's going

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Speaker 2: to talk about all huge changes coming to Washington with

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration. By the way, the federal DEI office

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Speaker 2: died about fifty five minutes ago at two o'clock. DEI

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Speaker 2: is dead. Office is closed. Everybody goes home. They're on

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Speaker 2: administrative leave, and then they get fired.

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Speaker 1: Yay.

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Speaker 2: The Lake Hughes, the Hughes fire rather is burning now

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Speaker 2: along Lake Hughes Road. That was the road that I

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Speaker 2: was talking about a few minutes ago, which had flames

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Speaker 2: snaking alongside the length of the road as far as

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Speaker 2: the camera could see, and you had firefighters standing in

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Speaker 2: the on the road watching to see what was going

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Speaker 2: to happen there. Also, Channel four is reporting the Castaic

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Speaker 2: Middle and elementary schools have been evacuated. The students are

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Speaker 2: going to the routs at Halsey Canyon, and CBS is

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Speaker 2: saying that CHP is working to close the southbound five

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Speaker 2: at Grapevine Road. Five Freeway is set to close from.

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Speaker 1: Grapevine to six.

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Speaker 2: This fire is about as out of control as you're

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Speaker 2: going to ever see a fire. I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: humidity for the next twenty four hours. Humidity is going

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Speaker 2: to be down here in Burbank to three percent. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I've ever seen a number that long my life.

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Speaker 2: Pasadena four percent. And that's what's drying out the vegetation

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Speaker 2: so that it's turned all the vegetation into kindling. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's not a drop of moisture in these plants anymore.

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Speaker 8: But then, yet, it's gonna rain this weekend. Yeah, you

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Speaker 8: can't rain today.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna do a lot of damage. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: only Wednesday. I don't think the first rain is till Saturday, right.

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Speaker 3: Saturday and Sunday and possibly Monday.

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Speaker 1: So then is it real rain against an inch?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: A yeah, all right?

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Speaker 2: Because I saw that it was like fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: chance of a quarter of an inch of rain, so

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Speaker 2: it seemed like it would be light and scattered and not.

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Speaker 8: I mean it might be scattered, but I mean it

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Speaker 8: would be better if it's scattered, because if it just

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Speaker 8: starts pouring, if right, then we're gonna have the mudflow.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have the mud slides and the debris.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You want enough to tamp down them, exactly, but you

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Speaker 2: don't want enough that would start the big mud slides.

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Speaker 2: And they're releasing, not releasing, but they're evacuating the Pitcher's prison.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now we're going to have criminals roaming around.

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Speaker 2: I know, Well, what do you think is going to

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Speaker 2: happen with the competency of all of the state government,

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Speaker 2: county government, city government, what do.

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Speaker 1: You think is going to happen?

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Speaker 2: They're going to lose track of some of the prisoners

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Speaker 2: and they're just going to run off into the wildfire,

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Speaker 2: into the hills. Complete breakdown of government. And I don't

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Speaker 2: think I don't think anybody's even trying to make a

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Speaker 2: case otherwise. There are some people who are saying, well, well,

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Speaker 2: let's just weigh it's no that is that is the

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Speaker 2: potted plant brigade. That's what I call people who when

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Speaker 2: they go to meetings or they're on zoom calls, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, let's just see what happens. You know, they're

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Speaker 2: doing the best they can. There's so many people who

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Speaker 2: reflexibly think that people in government are doing the best

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Speaker 2: they can. And they all sound like that too when

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Speaker 2: they talk they are doing the best. They know they're

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Speaker 2: not and their best sucks on their on their day.

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Speaker 2: And people just got to get over this faith in

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Speaker 2: government that they have. No, you're not dealing with the

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Speaker 2: best and brightest in society. You're not dealing with the

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Speaker 2: top ten percent. You're dealing with the bottom ten percent

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Speaker 2: when it comes to intellectual ability, ambition, and drive, which

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Speaker 2: is what you need to succeed, and you end up

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Speaker 2: as a government bureaucrat. You don't have any of those

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Speaker 2: qualities and this is what you get. All Right, We

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Speaker 2: will come back Tom McClintock, he's a congressman from northern California,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about the massive changes coming

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Speaker 2: to Washington with Trump, the immigration executive orders, the fires

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Speaker 2: here that are going on, and what you know, the

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Speaker 2: piss poor government response. Again not talking about the individual

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Speaker 2: firefighters and police officers who have been superheroes. It is

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Speaker 2: the management on all levels that is just terrible, just awful,

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Speaker 2: and things have got to change, especially for the money

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