1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Well, well, well, guess who's back. It's me Jack, I'm 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: back and Miles is gone because we cannot be in 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the same room together. We are like cats and dogs, 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: but we are here. I'm here with super producer Jabari Davis, 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: and it is Summer League Baby, Full Swing Team USA 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: has a few more basketball showcases before heading to Plin 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: at the end of the month. Teams are still making 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: moves in free agency. We'll get into all of that 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: and more with actor comedian one of the great podcasters, 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: one of the great singers. He is Jackies Neil. On 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: today's episode, I'm Jack. 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: O'Brien and I'm producer Jabari and for Miles, and. 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 3: This is Miles and Jeff got mat Yeah, I think 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: we three got it. 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: Look, don't hitch t k there. 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: You're going to be driving spinning. 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: From Block's got it with five? 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Is gonna try another three? 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 4: Mister? 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Look on James to be honest, Well the tell look out, 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: no shot time? 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: What you go? Yes? Uh? Jack, Keith? 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: What up? 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 5: Man? 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: How we doing we living? 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing alright, man, I'm doing alright. I was. 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I was talking before you arrived on the call that 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: I am. Unfortunately I have been pulled back in. Welcome 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: as a seventy six er thing, you've. 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 5: Been pulled back in. I mean, look, you guys got PG, 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: We got PG. You know, personally, goal toward that that 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: uh Western that Eastern Conference Finals exit. 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: One of these days, that is the dream an Eastern 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Conference finals egg. 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we've been working for. That's what we've 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: been when we get in when when the seventy six 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: ers get in the huddle before the game, can we 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: if this, if we just work together as a team, 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: you guys, this year, we are going to be able 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: to lose in five in the Eastern Conference Finals. 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 5: One of those players, it's PG, one of those players 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 5: who we think won't ever win one, won't ever win 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 5: one because like so yeah, because when we just joined the. 45 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: Best team in the NBA. I don't know if you 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: heard the first part where I was talking about the finals, 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: the championship fate No go ahead. 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: Okay, no that you're right, You're right, he's gonna win. 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: The seventy six ers, uh. 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 5: I mean you know, listen, they the seventy sixers every 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 5: year are have the potential on paper, so you know 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: they can put it together. 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: Then you know who's coach right right now? Doc? Right? No, 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: Nick nurse, our Nick nurse. We're doc at oh Milwaukee. 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: All right's got. 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: A better chance now that doc is not in Philly. 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think nurse Like, I feel good. I feel 58 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: like they have the proper pieces to put it together 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: barring injury, which is which makes me think the injury 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: this is the injury ravaged season. 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Probably. 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you in much better place than I am. 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: I am and you know, so excited to root for 64 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 5: my Chicago Bulls who should barely get sixteen wins this year, 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 5: probably as our entire team gets decimated, which, yeah, let's 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 5: blow it up and tank. 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels like where we're at. It feels like 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: they they're like, we're three steps ahead of you, Bud, 69 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: we are in it. But yeah, I should mention, you know, 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: in addition to be an actor, comedian, podcasting stordinaire, host 71 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: of comedian Feud, hosts for Dropout TV and from Grand Crew, 72 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: and also a Chicago Bulls. 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: Fan, which is the most important thing because most of 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: that I am. 75 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: So I got to ask, is is this, like you 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: know SAG for Flag? Is Cooper Flagg the desire target there? 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: You mean for Bulls. 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, sure, I guess though. 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 4: I mean at this point, I don't. 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 5: Really have faith in the Bulls organization to do anything 81 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 5: to develop any player or build around any player or 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 5: anything like that. And you know, the last time we 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: were competing was the d Rose era and. 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: Like we had it's all. 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 5: It's funny, Like the Bulls organization post Jordan has always 86 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 5: been like you'll have all the pieces and everybody will 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: seem right except one little aspect that one or two 88 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 5: people do wrong and like and we won't go. 89 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: Away from it or debate from it. 90 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 5: So it was like Tips just running his players into 91 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: the ground, like when you know, during. 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 4: The d Rose era, So like at this point, like 93 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: it would be dope. 94 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 5: But my best hope is to see what happened to 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 5: like the black Hawks all those years, happened to the Bulls, 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 5: and then like then maybe we'll actually progress and turn 97 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: the corner. Something good will happen to our organization because 98 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 5: until then I don't have faith in our organization anymore. 99 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, the best name I've heard for sag for flag 100 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: was from friend of the show Carl Tart's podcast The 101 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Flagrant Ones, where I forget who it's friend one of 102 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: the friends. One of their friends came up with white 103 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: flag for white flag. 104 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: Uh, the white flag or white flag. 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: Pretty well, that's funny. 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Did you guys talk about his performance against Team USA. 107 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Miles was going off about it in particular because 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: he you know, dotted ads I and in that, you know, 109 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 2: in that one clip. 110 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, will allow it, will allow him them on 111 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: the Lakers. 112 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: No, okay with that? Yeah, okay, But honestly, much like Jaquez, 113 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: I'm not I don't have all the confidence in the 114 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: world that we do that, right, So you know. 115 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is the best time of the year 116 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: for everybody except Celtics fans, because it is the time 117 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: of year where we can be unrealistic and hope springs 118 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: eternal and we can just tune into the Summer League 119 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: to just have visions of sugar plums dancing in our 120 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: head about our off season acquisitions. 121 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: Summer. 122 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: The Summer League has some care. I mean, it's not 123 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: it's not Wemby this year, but the winners and losers 124 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: aren't important. It's just fun seeing these draftees in their 125 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: first action. Zach Eadie is my first person who who 126 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to highlight two time Woulden Award winner, but 127 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: somehow kind of under the radar, Like I remember when 128 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: I finally got to watch it. I don't really watch 129 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: a lot of college hoops, and when I finally watched 130 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: him play this year, I think it was in the 131 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: Ncuba Tournament. So it's like in the Ncuba Tournament of 132 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: his second year winning the Wooden Awards, so like being 133 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: the best college basketball player. I was like, well, so 134 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: where do they have him going in mock drafts? And 135 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: it was like late second round, like people were like, 136 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna this guy's gonna stink. Yeah, I didn't 137 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: quite understand that. I still don't understand where that was 138 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: coming from. I guess people think he might be a 139 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: little bit slow, but I don't know. He looks like 140 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: he can play. So he had one summer league game 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: and then he twisted his ankle. But in that game 142 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: he had fourteen points, fifteen boards like Q, A couple 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: really convincing and important blocks, a game saving tip in 144 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: like uh, actually missed free throw down by two? Uh 145 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: he tips it in? I don't know, he I and 146 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: and he's he's now the favorite to be Rookie of 147 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: the year because he's coming right in. I think did 148 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: he go eight or nine to Memphis? Yeah, he ended 149 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: up like rocketing up the but Memphis has a need 150 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: at center, so he's gonna get burned if he can 151 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: stay healthy. 152 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: If he can stay healthy, yeah, I think he will 153 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 5: be a good player. You know, he's not gonna win 154 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year. That's going to Brownie James Junior. 155 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. But uh, but I'm just stating. 156 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: But uh but uh but yeah, no, I I just 157 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: see I saw highlights of the game he played, and 158 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 5: like he looks he looks like a center. 159 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: Like he looks like a center. Uh. 160 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 5: And I think, like you know, with somebody like John 161 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 5: who I think just started playing again or just resumed 162 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 5: basketball activity or something. I just all or something like that. 163 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 5: I'm not sure what I saw with Job, but like, yeah, man, 164 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 5: I think that can be a good team, Memphis Slymphis 165 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 5: can be a fun team. 166 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: That's the thing. They didn't have a great season last year. 167 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 5: But when they're all healthy and they're all there, like 168 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: that team plays very fun. And I think he'll fit 169 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 5: in with that, like good style of basketball. 170 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: When Jaw was healthy for a couple of weeks there, 171 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: like they were right back at it, like they looked 172 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: like they were gonna, you know, maybe sneak into the 173 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: playing game, and then he got hurt again. So it's 174 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be like in the mix, 175 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: like I think they might be in you know, the 176 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: mix for a top six seed next year, and a 177 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: seven foot two person is just like always in the 178 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: right spots and can you know, put the ball in 179 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: the basket, like see it seems like he's going to 180 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: be useful there. 181 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, clean enough. 182 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really sure why there was hesitation or 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: why those mod drafts had him in the second round. 184 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: You know, it's not like he's like a Taco Fall 185 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: guy in no disrespect to Taco Fall, you know, shout 186 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: out the hmage playing overseas somewhere. 187 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, it sounds like disrespect. 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes he's kind of disrespect for what I'm saying is 189 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: just by comparison. It's not like it was like that 190 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: guy where he's just where he's just a huge guy 191 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: that you know, took up a lot of space but 192 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: didn't really know what to do, like or didn't seem 193 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: you know, to know what to do on the court. 194 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: He's a guy that you know, to your point, you 195 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: know two time would an award winner and they you know, 196 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: like you can actually get it done. 197 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: So he ate the ball. 198 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: He made me slow and plotting, but you know he's 199 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: got game. 200 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: I remember when Andrew Wiggins when it was rigging for 201 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: Wiggins and it was Wiggins was playing I think Jabbari 202 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: uh what's his name, the number two pick Parker Uh 203 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: in like an early season game, and it was an event. 204 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: It was like a TV event, and I remember tuning 205 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: into that and being like, who, who's the big guy 206 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: on Wiggins's team? And people are like, oh, no, he's 207 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: that big, goofy guy. He doesn't know how to play. 208 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: He's only been playing basketball for like six weeks. I'm like, well, 209 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: he seems pretty good for only having been playing basketball 210 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: for six weeks. And that was that was EMBIID and 211 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: but everybody was tuning into CE like Wiggins because that 212 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: was the target. And then of course, you know, EMBID 213 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: just rapidly improved at an exponential rate. So I don't know, 214 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: there's something we don't trust about extra big men sometimes 215 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: that yah. 216 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: So you heard it here first going to be it's 217 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: going to be the. 218 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Next Joe l mb uh huh No, I don't think. 219 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he has that touch and his game 220 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: seems pretty settled at this point. But I just think 221 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: he'll be a useful starting center. 222 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: And be all you need it. 223 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 5: You had a guard like Jah, Yeah you had you know, 224 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 5: you had a guard, you had a Ford, and you 225 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 5: got a center. And a center just needs to get rebounds, 226 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 5: clog up the middle when they need to. I mean, well, 227 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 5: now where everything gets stretched and you know, you got 228 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 5: stretch vibes and everything like that, it makes it a 229 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 5: little bit harder. But like I think we've been seeing 230 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 5: over the past couple of seasons. I mean, Yoka is 231 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: just a different case. But like we've been seeing over 232 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 5: the past couple of seasons, big men playing more big 233 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 5: men roles. Yeah, and it actually like working and you know, 234 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 5: like a center that can shoot a three is gonna 235 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 5: be great. But I think the big man is starting 236 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: to re evolve in the game in a way that 237 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 5: can help a team actually like compete. 238 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Anybody else jumping out to you, guys, 239 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: what what have you been watched any summer league? 240 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 5: I I've only even seeing clips. I was gonna try 241 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: to go to the Summer League this year. Then I 242 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 5: asked somebody, oh, man, we were talking about in the 243 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 5: summer League, Like yeah. 244 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 4: You want to like playing that. He was like yeah, yeah, 245 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: let's look when it is, oh yes, in two days. 246 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 5: Was like, oh, then I guess we're not going to 247 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 5: the Summer League. It like snuck up on me, like yeah, 248 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 5: because I think everything is I think like. 249 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 4: I've still just been in. 250 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 5: Like the mindset of talking about the draft and like 251 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 5: all the storylines that came around the draft and then 252 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 5: like you know, a couple of the big moves and 253 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 5: then the USA team, whereas almost like the Summer League 254 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 5: has been one of the least stories. 255 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, in basketball over the past, like a couple of weeks. 256 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: Jabari, who's jumping out to you? I know you stay 257 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: plugged in on this. The only other person I wanted 258 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: to mention was Reed Shepherd. He looks a little in 259 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: over his head on defense, but his shot making and 260 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: his passing is pretty awesome. He had a going with 261 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Cam Whitmore two man game against the Wizards that was 262 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. 263 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's really there. Like, don't get me wrong. 264 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: The rookies are fun. You know, it's their first action, 265 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: but I don't have a great deal of of expectation 266 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: for them. It's kind of just like, you know, let's 267 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: you know, see what they have. The second and third 268 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: year guys are the ones that I'm usually looking forward 269 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: to see if there's been any progress, see you know, 270 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: see what they've developed, like over the off season. Last year, 271 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, you know, we were looking at j Barie Smith, 272 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: you know, for Houston this year. You already mentioned him, 273 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: Cam Whitmore. You know, I liked him as a I 274 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: liked him. 275 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: As a rookie. 276 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: He looks he looks like and it's cliche now you 277 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: know when you say too good for you know, for 278 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Summer League, but he looks like a guy that's like, Okay, yeah, 279 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: we saw what we needed to see. Uh and you 280 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: know we don't necessarily need to see a ton more 281 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: from him. 282 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: But it's really the way that is why our show 283 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: is not at Summer League this uh this year. Last 284 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: year we did go to Summer League saw wemb but 285 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: the NBA decided this year that we are too good 286 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: for Summer League. So that's why we're not there. Just 287 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: wanted to clarify that. 288 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real, that's real. And speaking of those Spurs, 289 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm you know, like I saw him as a rookie 290 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: and the and he and he you know, like jumped 291 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: out to me. But City Soco. I pray that I 292 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: said that, you know, the right way. Watch out for him. 293 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be you know, like he played 294 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: in a lot of G League action last year. I 295 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be with the big team this year. 296 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: And I think he's gonna play a big role. Really, 297 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: I do. Where's the Swiss army knife guy? You know what? 298 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: You Brian's gonna have to edit. I have no idea 299 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: where he's from, but I'm gonna say France, just because 300 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: because that seems like every player is coming from France. 301 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: Now, I'll look it up. What's his name again, City? 302 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: Yeah that's France. Yeah, that's French. 303 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: Actually was right, he's a French. There we go. 304 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna shout shout out to all people 305 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: with French names. 306 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: You know, you know, I hear French. When I hear French, 307 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: I know it, I know it. 308 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: You know what Ken Whitmore is out there just like 309 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: trying to hurt people's feelings like he had some just 310 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: just amazing. Like there's one oop from reed Shepherd to 311 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: him where he like caught it at his like elt 312 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: like where like at his hip and just like cocked 313 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: it back one handed and it was. 314 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: I I do. 315 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 5: You know what's funny for me when I watched Summer League, 316 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 5: and I think. 317 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: It's even more evident this season. 318 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 5: Is the older I get, the more the more watching 319 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: the Summer League is just like watching college players play basketball. 320 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: I guess, like watching college pick up like to a degree. 321 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 5: I know it's a little bit better than that, but 322 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: you know, they are just kids, you know, like watching 323 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 5: Bronnie and and the big reason for that is because 324 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: of Bronnie, because students there and all these other kids 325 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 5: who are sons of NBA players who I was a 326 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 5: teenager when they got drafted, like not even like a kid. 327 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 5: I was a teenager when some of these kids bothers. 328 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: Got drafted into the NBA. 329 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 5: And so like, the Summer League is becoming more interesting 330 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 5: to me because like I'm starting not to equate it 331 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 5: as much, and this is just me equated as much 332 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: with with the NBA. 333 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: Like as I do. 334 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: It's just kind of like college and G league almost 335 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 5: and I know, like you know, that's not the case 336 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 5: for a portion of those players, but but yeah, it's 337 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 5: it's really and it's fun. It's fun, it's it's it's 338 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 5: still like players playing for the love of the game 339 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 5: until they get to Game one of the NBA season 340 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: and it's like, we're playing for love of the game, 341 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 5: but also, let's get these fits off, let's get our money, 342 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 5: let's get you know, let's get on the road. We're 343 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 5: NBA players now, you know, they're in the show. They're 344 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 5: in the show now mm hm. For summer league, is 345 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 5: still just we just playing because we just love basketball 346 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 5: and we're trying to make the team. 347 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: Do you have you watched any of your number eleven 348 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: pick matas boozellis No. 349 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 5: No, I'm pretty pissed. I'm pretty upset at the Bulls. 350 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie to you. I keep up with 351 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 5: like his stats and just what they say they're doing. 352 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, I I just don't like what we're. 353 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Right, man, I gotta say so, he have one one 354 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: dunk that somebody helpfully put to the beginning of they 355 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: not like us, and he just put somebody on their 356 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: rear and then landed on his but and then just 357 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: stared at the person who he had just dunked on. 358 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: And that was in a game where he had twenty 359 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: eight yeah on four or five threes. So like, yeah, 360 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a fan, Like I'm I'm gonna be 361 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: checking for Boozellis. I also just like saying his name. 362 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 4: It's not so much I don't think he'll be a 363 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: good player. I think he he'll fit in. 364 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 5: I just think he's gonna have to come to this 365 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 5: team and play a bigger role than he should right 366 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 5: for his talent level. Like he's gonna the way is looking, 367 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: he's gonna be like our second option. 368 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah with you know, yeah, you know a lot can 369 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 2: be developed over the course of a reset season. 370 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, you. 371 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: Don't want them to develop bad habits, but you know, 372 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: getting that type of run and you know, being featured 373 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: like that even in losses, you know, it's silver lining, 374 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: silver lining. 375 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why we're looking forward to us. 376 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 5: He's you know, twenty twenty six. 377 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Baby, how about a Dalton connect aka Dalton netched is 378 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: what it looks like it should be pronounced. But that 379 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: that's your silver lining. Jabari for this offseason. 380 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's playing well. 381 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, at number seventeen, he slipped to you. I think 382 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought he was gonna go higher, 383 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: and he his game looks smooth. 384 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: Because I'm on the same you know, like kind of 385 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: a vibe as Jack Keese, I'm like, okay, so when's 386 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: the other shoe gonna drop? You know what I mean? 387 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: I can't even allow myself to be as excited as 388 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: as I should be because they did look whether it 389 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: was you know, you know, their fortune or other team's misfortune, 390 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: he looks like a guy that can you step on 391 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: the court and contribute right now. You know, I mentioned 392 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: it in the you know pre show. There's gonna be 393 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: some questions on what he's gonna do defensively, but that's 394 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: really the case with any any rookie guard or you know, 395 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: rookies in general. But he's from the offensive side of things. 396 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: He looks like he's a guy that can step on 397 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: and and actually be, you know, be one of their 398 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: better players. Which I don't know what that says about 399 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: their you know, their chances this year, but at least 400 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: they go, yeah. 401 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 4: You know what about their chances. 402 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: We're just happy that, all right, let's take a quick break. 403 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll look around the league at what's happening. 404 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Jabari's gonna explain what the second apron means, and uh, 405 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at where where other people are landing, 406 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: will be, will be right back, and we're back. And man, 407 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: I have heard a lot of people talk about the 408 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: second apron. So the big thing that feels new to 409 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: me about the CBA this time around is like you 410 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: get punished by like your draft pick gets moved to 411 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: the end of the round if you violate the apron. 412 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: If you're a repeat offender, you're a repeat offender. 413 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: But that's that's a big deal, Like that's you can't 414 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: just be like I don't care, I'll take the hit. 415 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: I just want to keep keep going. And you know, 416 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: it's like, no, now you're actually getting punished in terms 417 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: of what you're able to do and where you're able 418 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: to draft. 419 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: What it feels like to me is that the owners 420 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 2: got their hard cap that they probably always know why 421 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: am I saying? Why am I being nice? That they 422 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: want it all along, Like technically they could still you know, 423 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: you know, uh deal with these penalties, but no one's 424 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: going to So basically, if you have a team right 425 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: now that you know is paying a ton of players 426 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: and you know, like on max money likes like say, 427 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: for instance, the Boston Celtics, part of the reason why 428 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't a surprise that their owners uh decided to 429 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: go ahead and pull out and and and and or 430 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: at least exploring the idea of selling the team. Yeah, 431 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: but if you have teams like that, get you know, 432 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: don't get used to it, because it's just not going 433 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: to be the norm. Like for you know, in the 434 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: in the apprecial, we were talking about the Denver Nuggets, 435 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: all of a sudden next year they've got a decision 436 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: to make with Jamal Murray. Obviously they're going to make 437 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: the decision to keep him, but what that does is 438 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: it puts him in a position to where they're gonna 439 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: have to make difficult you know, they're gonna have to 440 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: have difficult conversations about guys like you know, Aaron Gordon 441 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: and or even a Michael Porter Junior. So yeah, like, look, 442 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't explain all of it to you, but what 443 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: it feels like, like I said, is it's a true 444 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: hardcap and it's getting it and it's allowing allowing owners 445 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: to say, like, maybe parody isn't the worst of ideas. 446 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is great. 447 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I you know, listen, the NBA is, the 448 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 5: NBA is in a more fun era of its existence 449 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: right now than it has been, you know, in a 450 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 5: long time. And and for me, you know, there's certain 451 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: eras that are Every era is fun. You know, the 452 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 5: nineties were great. I was fairly alive in the eighties. 453 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 5: But the eighties were great. You know, the Kings and 454 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 5: the Lakers were fun, you know those even the Detroit 455 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 5: you know, or going to the two thousand tens, you know, 456 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 5: Lebron versus Steph for twenty five times, like, you know, 457 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 5: it was. 458 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: It was all fun eras. 459 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 5: But like, the one thing that the era before this, 460 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: one of the black spots on the league in my 461 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: and as a fan, was that it was just so predictable, Like. 462 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, come into the season and you were like, oh, 463 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Cas versus Golden State, and it was it. 464 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 5: And no matter and no matter how it looked like 465 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 5: it was going to shake out, it all settled to 466 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 5: be exactly that at the end, where it was just 467 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 5: kind of it was fun to watch you know, like 468 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 5: great basketball, but it was boring, yeah as a fan 469 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 5: to just like you know, get your hopes up and 470 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 5: then like lose to the two teams that everybody knew 471 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: was going to get there. And in the past, well, 472 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 5: in the past like five seasons, especially the last four, 473 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 5: since the bubble, it's not been that. 474 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: Why are you taking out the bubble? Why you. 475 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 5: Know, since the bubble, you know what I'm saying, since 476 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 5: the ship But I'm saying, but but as it. But 477 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 5: the reason I'm taking out the bubble is because like 478 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 5: that season was just like stop midway through and then 479 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 5: it was a weird season as far as standings and 480 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: play and everything like that. 481 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've always said that you don't think it 482 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: should have stopped. You thought that the plandemic was uh 483 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah. 484 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 5: You know when they sent when they sent Rudy Goberian, 485 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 5: you know as plants, the tough on all the mics, 486 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 5: you know, that was that was that was all part. 487 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: Of the play. 488 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: People don't know you did that at every NBA it was. 489 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, moving they flew that that uh that might cover 490 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: around and just like in every locker. 491 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Room, wrung the COVID out of it. 492 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: Just rung the COVID out. 493 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the only argument I've heard against this is 494 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: from uh, a very famous Boston sports fan. It was like, 495 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to like keep keep the 496 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: team together anymore. It's not fair, Like this should be 497 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: more like the NFL, where like you know, uh, you 498 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: can keep a core together. And the problem with that 499 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: is that the NFL has variants built into it because 500 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: it's a winner take all one game playoff and championship, 501 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: So you have variants built in, and you're not going 502 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: to have the same team in the finals every single 503 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: year with the same core. The NBA likes as we saw, 504 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: like what like you were talking about Jackies, Like if 505 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: if the NBA like makes it so that these teams 506 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: can keep the exact same core together for ten years, 507 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: it might be the same team in the finals for 508 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: ten years, because that's yeah, and. 509 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: It gets boring. It gets boring. 510 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Seven game series, the best team is going to usually win. 511 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 5: And then also like look, man, look look when the 512 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 5: sixth player on the team is making more money than 513 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 5: Michael Jordan made in his last season as an NBA player. Yeah, 514 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 5: like not keeping your core together is falling on deaf 515 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 5: years less money. Correct, then take less money like y'all 516 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 5: getting paid so and I'm not saying now, don't get 517 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 5: paid what you're worth. But the real reason it's hard 518 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 5: to keep a car together now is because players are 519 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 5: getting paid forty plus million. 520 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: Dollars this season to play basketball. 521 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 5: Uh and and and and this is part of like 522 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 5: the deals. And I know, I know it's not just 523 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 5: black and white, Like this money is coming from somewhere 524 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 5: and the players should get their share. Yeah, but that 525 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 5: is going to be a downfall to it. When like 526 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 5: every player becomes a max player, then you ain't gonna 527 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 5: be able to have a bunch of max players on 528 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 5: your concept on your team anymore. Like that's just the 529 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 5: way it is. 530 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: It's Scotty Barnes and what's his name from Orlando both 531 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: got maxed out right. 532 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 2: Crazy Vronz Wagner, Scotti Bares Yeah, Like that really is 533 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: a case. You can't have it both ways if you want, 534 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: you know, if you want parody in the NBA, you 535 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: don't want, you know, like the dynasty teams, then you're 536 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: gonna have to open it up for this if you 537 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: want guys to get paid. And you know, the way 538 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: that they should, you know, commiserate to their their talent 539 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: and what they're contributing your you know, to the product. 540 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: Then you're not going to be able to stack everybody 541 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: on the same team. It's just it really, you know, 542 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 2: to me, the argument or the complaint there, you know 543 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: it it falls on deaf ears because it truly is 544 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: a you can't have it both ways. 545 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the complaint is basically, I want the Boston Celtics 546 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: to be able to keep the Boston Celtics together for 547 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: the rest of my natural life, which yeah, I don't 548 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: know how many people are in that same boat. 549 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: And I'm a you know, look man, I grew up. 550 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 5: I look again, I'm a Chicago guy. I grew up, 551 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 5: and I grew up in the nineties dynasty. 552 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Man. 553 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 5: So I'm used to seeing a team win over fifty 554 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: percent of the championships in one decade. And I know 555 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 5: Boston fans are used to that too. I know Warriors 556 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 5: fans have that, Spurs fans have that. There are teams 557 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 5: that have it. But like, even as a Bulls fan, 558 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 5: as much as I would love to see my team 559 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: rattle off five championships, like I think as a basketball fan, 560 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 5: I think it's better to see a team win one 561 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 5: or two and then like, you know, move on. We 562 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: don't need to see a team win three, four or 563 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: five championships in a row anymore. Like it's not it's 564 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 5: not good for basketball, not in this era of basketball fanship, 565 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,239 Speaker 5: where our attention spans are so short and there's so 566 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 5: many ways to watch and enjoy the game and just 567 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: know so much about the game and his players. 568 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 4: It's not. 569 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: It was a very top heavy league back then, right, 570 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: Jordan was so much better than the next best players 571 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: and you know, uh, Magic and Bird and you know, 572 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: in the eighties. So it's so wild that the Bulls 573 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: are like, you know, just while we're on the subject 574 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: of like caps and hard caps and it's just so 575 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: wild that the and this is a point that I 576 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: think I heard Bill Simmons making, was that like Chicago 577 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: should be one of the best teams in the league. 578 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: Like perennially they're like a the second or third biggest market. 579 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 4: And their biggest market in the country get. 580 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: A lot of attention for having ownership that doesn't want 581 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: to spend money and is bad and does but the 582 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: Bulls ownership is believe, like even what that was One 583 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: of the things that the last Dance I think reminded 584 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people of is like even as they're 585 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: like going into the sixth season of this amazing dynasty, 586 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: They're like, we want to break it up. We don't 587 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: want to keep paying for these guys. We think they're overpaid. 588 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: This guy Jordan's dime a dozen. 589 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, we can do it again. We build this, we 590 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 5: can build it again. It's like, Okay, we're going to 591 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 5: make sure Eddie Curry. 592 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 593 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: And the thing about it, so, Chicago is the third 594 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 5: largest market in the NBA in most sports leagues generally, 595 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 5: I don't know about hockey. 596 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: And New York is over that. 597 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 5: I think New York will probably be number one, to 598 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 5: be honest, or or to and la Is obviously rounds 599 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 5: out the top three. But unlike New York, Chicago has 600 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 5: more success than the Knicks have had their entire existence 601 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 5: as a franchise. Like, we have more championships, granted, all 602 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: in one decade, but we have more. 603 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: Championships, had a good run, we had a great run. 604 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 4: We have more playoff success. 605 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 5: We've made like more playoff runs than the Knicks have 606 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 5: in the past twenty years. You know, not right, now, 607 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 5: but like, for the most part, we have and you know, 608 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 5: like we have more famous players. The Knicks are dope, 609 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 5: they got good players, Mellow great, but you know, like 610 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 5: the Rose was dope, Mike was great, Scotty was great. 611 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: Like filter like this, and so it's just it baffles me. 612 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 5: And I'm saying all that which sounds positive when I'm 613 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 5: about to take a poopoo on the Bulls. It baffles 614 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 5: me how we fumble so many free agents when it tried. 615 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 5: When it comes to like coming to the Chicago boy, like, 616 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 5: it baffles. 617 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: Me, Like they're not even in the conversation, Like the 618 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: conversation happens around the Knicks where people are like, well, 619 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: you know so, and somebody is going to get extremely 620 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: famous by bringing the Knicks back to glory, like it's 621 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: way too long. But the Bulls, I guess maybe it's 622 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: because Jordan's imprint was so massive that people are just like, well, 623 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: you're never You're just in his shadow forever. It's not 624 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: crazy to bring. 625 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: But when d Rose was playing and like it was 626 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 5: looking like we might go to the Promised Land with 627 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 5: d Rose, I'm telling you I was in Chicago. I'm 628 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 5: telling you we was ready like we would we would 629 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 5: have crowned d Rose. 630 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the media covers it. 631 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were ready. We were ready to crown him. 632 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 5: And like I'll see often like and now I'll see 633 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 5: this question often, you know, like the would you rathers? 634 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 5: And like I answered this honestly, would you rather like 635 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 5: take one or two championships away from Jordan just to 636 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 5: give one to d Rose? 637 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 4: And I routinely say, yes, Wow, I. 638 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 5: Would I would like to give one to that team 639 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 5: When Rose was that MVP level, Oh my god, yeah, dude, 640 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 5: and from Chicago, the kid from Chicago. 641 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 4: Who says why can't I be the MVP? 642 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 5: And they he becomes it and leads the team to 643 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 5: the championship. 644 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: Bro, Yeah, it would have been beautiful. So we're ready. 645 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: We're ready. 646 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 5: As much as we love Mike, we are ready to 647 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 5: crown somebody else, like we want to, like we want 648 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 5: to so bad. 649 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 650 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: I do think the Knicks are I don't know that, 651 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: so they Brunton has reportedly left about thirty million on 652 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: the table in order to make things easier for the 653 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: next with the salary cap. 654 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: I heard it was like one thirteen. 655 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: It's because like he signed it a year earlier, so 656 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: like basically, he'll eventually get that money. It's just okay, 657 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: he signed it early, so I think I think it 658 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: was somewhere between thirty and thirty five million. Is what 659 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: he's actually losing, which is thirty five million. 660 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Michal Bridges is expected to also take a salary 661 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: cut so that they can all play together. So now 662 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: people are like the Knicks. Are the Knicks the second 663 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: best team in the Eastern Conference? Do you guys think? 664 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 5: I think if they I think if they can put 665 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 5: it together, I mean, like the additions they made this offseason. 666 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: We're dope. 667 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 5: And I think if they can put it together, I 668 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 5: don't trust Milwaukee anymore. Yeah, who else besides I mean 669 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 5: I guess Philly obviously, and. 670 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Philly, New York and Boston. 671 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 5: But I think that's your top three, like just on 672 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 5: paper right now, that's your top three. 673 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 4: And I can't I'm not I'm not knock Gonna. 674 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 5: I can't knock it because I literally just said this 675 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 5: five minutes ago, Like, if you want to put a 676 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 5: team together that can win, and the core that you 677 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 5: can keep together, like players are gonna probably have to 678 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: take less money or less or different type of deals 679 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 5: to do it, and the Knicks are like, we want, 680 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 5: we want to win. 681 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 4: So let's go, let's do it. I respect that. I 682 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,959 Speaker 4: respect what they're doing. 683 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 5: Now from a broke man's perspective, what you're doing, bruh 684 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 5: doing brouh. 685 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: The anonymous nobody on Twitter tweeted, then teach economics at Villanova. 686 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, oh man, I think it's going to be 687 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: an interesting year in the Eastern Conference next year. 688 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: I guess Indiana is still there. 689 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: Indiana's still there. 690 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 4: I don't trust. I don't I'm not that high on them. 691 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be honest, yeah, I don't know. I'll tell 692 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: you the person that, just having lived through the series 693 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: where we got beat by the Knicks, Hartenstein was the 694 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: person who really I have bad dreams about still. I 695 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: think that's partially because we embiid was hurt and slow 696 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: to the rebound, and Hartenstein's just got every rebound. So 697 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he's gone makes me feel a little 698 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: bit better about how Philly stacks up against them. But not, 699 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. They they're going to have some shooting 700 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: now that's going to be pretty tough to contend with. 701 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: And Brunson so good. 702 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, Brunton and Halliburton may have a 703 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 5: w w E match one day, you know what I'm saying. 704 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 4: They were It was just on Monday Night rawl or 705 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 4: one or a pay per view. I can't remember which one. 706 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 4: Maybe it was a pay per view. 707 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got you're a fan of wrestling. In 708 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: addition to the NBA, I have to say that this 709 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: immediately gave me less respect for the acting of wrestlers 710 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: because they were immediately just as good as wrestlers in 711 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: terms of acting like they were and they sold it. Man, 712 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. They though they sold it. 713 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 5: Listen that that that's cool and all, but it was 714 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 5: also who they were, who they were in with, you 715 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Yeah, first let let uh let 716 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 5: brock Lessners big budget in that ring with them. 717 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was. 718 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: Fun really quickly. On the Knicks, it feels like they're 719 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 2: set up to honestly defend everybody except for Philly, uh, 720 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: which you know, whether they're gonna address that or not, 721 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: or they don't necessarily think that they're going to face 722 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: them like in a in a post in a post 723 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: season situation. I love what the Knicks have done. I 724 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: do think that I do think they're clearly the second 725 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: best regular season team, clearly. Yeah, I'll go out on 726 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: that limbit. And this is after trying to you know, 727 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 2: trying to get you to stick with the Sixers every year. 728 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 729 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: Well, now that I've said them sticking with them, You're like, Okay, 730 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: I can be honest. 731 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: Now, this is the one year where I'll say I 732 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 2: think the Sixers match up really well with a lot 733 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 2: of the teams in the East. So this is the 734 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: first year in a long time where I'll say the 735 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: Sixers look like a sixteen game team as opposed to 736 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: just primarily being the eighty two games were the Nick. Yeah, 737 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: for the Knicks, They're gonna cause a lot of trouble 738 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 2: for a lot of people throughout that regular season. 739 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I especially because the Sixers, I think our 740 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: best strategy is not to play Joe l Embiid in 741 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: the regular season. Yeah, you know what I do. 742 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 5: You know, like every every like major sport has like 743 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 5: a really dope thing about their season that's fun. Uh, 744 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 5: And I think MLB does this the best out of 745 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 5: the top four is like, uh, the trade deadline is 746 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 5: so fun in Major League Baseball because it is truly 747 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 5: just like all right, all the teams that stuck are 748 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 5: dumping off players, and all the contending teams just go 749 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 5: get that one last piece they need to like take 750 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 5: them over the hump for the second half of the season. 751 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 4: It's like such a fun Like in. 752 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 5: Twenty sixteen, the Cubs did that again in the World 753 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 5: as Chapman and like that took us over the humps 754 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 5: when that World Series. 755 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 4: Like I wish that. 756 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 5: I wish the NBA had more of just tool up 757 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 5: for much like I can see the Knicks. I can 758 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 5: see the like the Knicks playing well and then like 759 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 5: taking those first forty games to see like, okay, what 760 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 5: do what what do we need. 761 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 4: To like get us over the hump. 762 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 5: Now do we've seen ourselves play or we've seen how 763 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 5: that this team operates, and then make one move and 764 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 5: then it's off to the races in the second half 765 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 5: of the season. I think that would be so fun 766 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 5: in basketball. Yeah, if that happened more. 767 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: There's just like a whammy day where all of a sudden, 768 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: one player just got shaken loose from their team and 769 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: everybody had to let go around like to get them. Yeah, 770 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: that would be fun. All right, Should we take a 771 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: quick break, and then we'll come back and we'll do 772 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: the rapid fire round of questioning. Oh that sound good? 773 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh you forgot. Yeah, we should mention, Jaqis, 774 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: you haven't been on in one and twenty one episodes. 775 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: This is our one and twenty second episode. You were 776 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: on air our first episode. Gosh, couple things that changed 777 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: around here, Not really that much. 778 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 5: You mean if I went and I'm looking at my 779 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 5: list right here, and it says if I answer the 780 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 5: most questions, I guess season tickets, the NBA. 781 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: Tickets to recordings of Miles and Jack, and you can 782 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: just sit in invited. I got you. Okay, let's do 783 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: it all right, we'll be right back and we're back, Jaquise. 784 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: The Olympics are here. So in this rapid fire round 785 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: of questions, which by the way, is fastest segment in podcasting, 786 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: you just don't don't think. Just to answer. We're going fast, 787 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: bing bang boom. Picture a bullet ricocheting around, uh, the 788 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: the room in a in a movie. That's how fast 789 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: we want this conversation to flow. If we slow things down, 790 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: you need to get us back on track. Okay, okay, Jabar, 791 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: you want to start, No. 792 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 2: You go ahead and start. 793 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: Okay, we got two teams. You got Team USA twenty 794 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: twenty four or the redeem Team two thousand and eight. 795 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 4: Two thousand eight? Oh sorry, alright, Dan, correct? 796 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So I just want to name some of the 797 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: players who are on two thousand and eight. Got Carlos Boozer, 798 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: Darron Williams. Are you start with Michael Red Sure, Chris Bosh, 799 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: Dwight Howard, Ran, Kayshawn Prince. 800 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, defense babe? 801 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: All right? You also got Carmeli, you got Prime Lebron. 802 00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: You got Jason Kidd more or Asen kids. I think 803 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: this was a period where he still didn't have a Jay. Yeah, 804 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: somebody named Kobe Bryant or something b Bryant, that's right. Uh, 805 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade and Chris Paul. So that's the team two 806 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. You think they're beating this team? 807 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 4: Actually, now that I'm thinking about this, and. 808 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: Now that I said all those, now. 809 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 5: You got me thinking about this. That that team that's 810 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 5: a tough team to try to beat. A team with 811 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 5: Steph Curry on it. I'm going twenty twenty four. 812 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: I think that's right. I kind of agree, but Jabari 813 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: is hard two thousand and eight because he's a big 814 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: Kobe fan. 815 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 5: You got Kobe, and that's what I was going to, Like, 816 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 5: you still got Lebron, who obviously isn't as good as 817 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 5: he wasn't O eight, but like it's still still top 818 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 5: five player in the world right now. 819 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: So like he's just different. I mean, he's definitely not 820 00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: as good as he was in two thousand and eight, 821 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: but like he's also so smart. 822 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 5: I feel and in oh wait, in wait, basketball was 823 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 5: still slightly slower paced, wasn't The three pointer hadn't become 824 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 5: keen yet, and you put that team becaust. 825 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: This Steph Curry. Man, Nah, I think I gotta go 826 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 4: to the twenty four give me. 827 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 2: Oh wait, Lebron locking steps a little? But up man, 828 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, oh wait is smashing this team? 829 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 5: Man, Lebron lock up, Jason Terry, He ain't locking up 830 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 5: that not in two thousand and eight, Bro, Maybe twenty fourteen. 831 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: In the previous season had Lebron and No. 832 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 5: No. 833 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: Eight was Preheatles, right, yeah yeah not not wait wait 834 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: Boston won. 835 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 5: Oh that's right, yeah yeah, Lebron a locking up? Steph, Lebron. 836 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,479 Speaker 5: That Lebron offensively great. He ain't locking up prime Steph 837 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 5: Curry combination. 838 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: Of Lebron and Bean and and d Wade. You know, yes, 839 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 2: I'll take it, everybody. 840 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: This Lebron, oh wait, Lebron is not as good like 841 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: what he really needed that that loss to Dallas to 842 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: become like. 843 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 5: That's that's prime Lebron, right there is. Twenty eleven through 844 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 5: fifteen sixteen is prime Lebron. Uh, that's Lebron at his peak, 845 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 5: offensively and defensively. 846 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 2: I need y'all to go back and watch them O 847 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: eight Lebron highlights. Man, I'm sorry. Oh right, you're one 848 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: hundred percent right in terms of you know, twenty twelve, 849 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, it was ridiculous, but oh w eight Lebron 850 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: was still so nasty. 851 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty nicely he was great. 852 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: It's disgusting. 853 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 4: He was just ye, he was yelking on people. 854 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's fair. 855 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 4: I still got to go twenty twenty four. That's why 856 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 4: were you Let. 857 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 2: Me ask this as a follow up. By the way, 858 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 2: this is a rabid fire. So this was supposed to 859 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 2: be just yeah, and. 860 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 4: Now way up here discussing this stuff. 861 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: All right, I'll get it off of that, but stick 862 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 2: with Team USA. What is the one moment or game 863 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 2: from Team USA history that you wish Twitter had been 864 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 2: around for. 865 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 5: Oh, I wish it would have been around for that 866 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 5: game where Charles Barkley was like, uh, I get what. 867 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 4: The name is now, but I don't know them. We're 868 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 4: gonna beat them with like the like when he said 869 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 4: that quote, and they'd like to see it happen. It 870 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 4: would have been amazing. It would have been so funny. 871 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 5: Uh. And then also and then also the second second 872 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 5: response is and because I just saw this on Twitter, 873 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 5: but I wasn't big on Twitter when this happened. Was 874 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 5: like the New Zealand team did like the little tribal 875 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 5: dance before like before. 876 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 4: The game, and the NBA players were just watching, like 877 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 4: what the heck is this? And this dream team it 878 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 4: was there. 879 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 5: I think it was the Dream Team, yeah, or the 880 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 5: or like the USA team and then uh, and then 881 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 5: they beat them by like thirty point. 882 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: Twelve or twenty sixteen, but I think it was like 883 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 2: twenty twelve. 884 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was twenty twelve. It was so funny. 885 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 5: They had the hockey that we're doing in the haka dance, 886 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 5: which was dope, but it's also meant. 887 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 4: To intimidate and be intimidating and imposing. 888 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're talking about. 889 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 4: Cool and they who Yeah, that would have been great. 890 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: It's it's what we do best as a as a 891 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: country is basketball. So it's it's the one thing we 892 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,479 Speaker 1: have left. 893 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 5: Uh. 894 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: It is the beautiful game. With all apologies to I'm 895 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: not even apologizing to soccer anymore. Man, I just watched 896 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: the Copa Americas or whatever. Man, it's not a beautiful game. 897 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: We got the beautiful game. 898 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah man, yeah, yeah, as much as y'all running up 899 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 4: and down these fields, man, I need to see. 900 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 2: More toward Yeah. 901 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: Keith Neil, what a pleasure having you back on Miles 902 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: and jack got mad boosties. 903 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 4: Listen, listen, it's been it's been a beautiful time. 904 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: It's been a beautiful game. It's been a beautiful time. 905 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: One of the most beautiful guests podcast, Jakeith. Where can 906 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: people find you? 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