1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: I met Jones. The Cats lose in Austin thirty four seventeen. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: You can give a shout if I'm nine two eight 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: oh twenty two eighty seven. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: The game tonight was, you know, kind of a microcosm 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: of the season. Some good moments, some good things, a 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: lot of bad things, bad breaks. Tucky shoots itself in 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the foot some and ends up coming away with a 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: seventeen point loss, which, honestly, if you watch the entire game, 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: that kind of felt like about what the spread should 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: have been, even though it was weird. Kentucky once again 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: had a first and goal inside the five and was 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: not able to score. They ended up with a field 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: goal that they missed, but then they immediately got a 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: touchdown on a you know what ended up being not 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: a pick six but a fumble and got it right back. 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: So it was just one thing right after the other, 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: good fall by, bad fall by, good fall by, bad 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: Cats end up losing. They're now going to finish SEC 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Play one in seven and a very disappointing season. I 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: was sitting here kind of looking at the standings and 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: a and m right now is losing at Auburn, and 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking about, you know, Penn State and Indiana 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: both lost today and long story short, if then and 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: this could happen, if if Tennessee were to lose to 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: to Vandy, or if Alabama were to lose to to Auburn, 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: Like there's a world where a three loss SEC team makes, uh, 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, makes the playoff. And I was sitting there thinking, 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Kentucky what probably has the hardest strength of schedule of 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: any of the teams in the SEC, just by the 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: nature of who they ended up drawing this year. And 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: like those games Billy that at the start of the 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: year we talked about us being able to potentially win 35 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: South Carolina line of Florida, Auburn, Vandy. You of course 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: lost them all, but because they beat Old Miss, like, 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: there's a world where Kentucky fans could go, well, that 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: could have been us. Now, obviously we weren't close to 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: winning those games, but it sort of also highlights what 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: a disappointment this year is. And Kentucky probably played its 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: four best games this year in the SEC against against 42 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: the four hardest teams. This was not their best game, 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: but it was better than they played against Auburn, Vandy, Florida, 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: and South Carolina. Probably it's it's very unfortunate to take 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: this loss. This is not the end of it. It's 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: just an example of what Kentucky sort of dealt with 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: all season. If there's any hope from the game, it's 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: that Cutter Bowley played well. I think this goes contrary 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: to what I said last week, but I think after 50 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: today Cutter should probably start in that final game against Louisville. 51 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: I said, you know, Louisville's beatable this year, so you 52 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: need to play the guy who gives you the best 53 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: chance to win. I think after watching the second half, 54 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Cutter Bowley probably gives you gives you the best chance 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: to win. And I think, more fundamentally, whether they decide 56 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: to start Cutter or Brock going into this Louisville game, 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: I think next year, you know, the future of Vander 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Griff at Kentucky is very much up in the air. 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Whether whatever you do. I mean, in some ways, what 60 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Mark Stoops is gonna decide by the game Saturday might 61 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: be his decision for next season. I think if you 62 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: start Cutter Bowley Saturday, you're all but committing to not 63 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: bringing back Brock Vandergriff next year. And if you start Brock, well, 64 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: then the question would be are you just sitting Cutter 65 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: next year? What? Almost whatever you do Saturday is probably 66 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do next season. So that's a weird spot. 67 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: But Brock has had eleven games and it's just not happened. 68 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: And Cutter wasn't perfect today, but we saw flashes and 69 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: he made quicker decisions and probably gives you more upside 70 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: because the reality is he's got three more years. There's 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: also the fact that I believe Billy Cutter's played four games? 72 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Am I right about that? 73 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: I think it's three? 74 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: He only played three, played against Murray Florida, he played tonight. 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: Did he get in in another game? 76 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: That's the three I'm counting. 77 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if that's the case, then he could play 78 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: against Louisville and not burn a red shirt. I thought 79 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: he had played four, at which point playing against Louisville 80 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: would burn it. So if he's only played three, then 81 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: that would take that part of the decision making out. 82 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we can confirm that's the case, because I do 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: think if he played four, then that's an even more 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: difficult decision. But regardless, a disappointing season, and more fundamentally, 85 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: you know, going into this Louisville game Saturday. Next Saturday, 86 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna play Louville, and then that next week, which 87 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: is the first week of December, will be maybe one 88 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: of the most hectic weeks college football has ever seen 89 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: across the country and here specifically, right on top of 90 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: each other. You're gonna have the coaching change season, the 91 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: transfer portal and signing day is December fifth, So you're 92 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: gonna have a week of a lot of stuff happening quickly. 93 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: So Mark Stoopes, whatever's gonna happen after that is gonna 94 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: happen quick Now, all indications are he wants to come back. 95 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: What I would say is I'm okay with that in theory, 96 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: but I need to hear over the course of the 97 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: next week and after the Louisville game, a coach who's 98 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: not just complaining about what's wrong with college football and 99 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: what's wrong with society, because that's what I've heard for 100 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: the last year is how much we gotta raise money 101 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: and that stinks, and we gotta do this and it stinks, 102 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: and I don't like doing this, and it stinks and 103 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: he's the grumpy old man kind of yelling at the clouds, saying, 104 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: back in my day it was different. Well, it's not 105 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: your day anymore. It's this day, and this day is 106 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: gonna look even more different in a year. And I 107 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: need to hear a guy who wants to embrace that 108 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Bush Hampden. It's not been a great year with him 109 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: as OC. I think if Mark comes back, they're gonna 110 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: bring him back just because they can't have another offensive coordinator. 111 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: That would be seven years in a row with a 112 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: different offensive coordinator six. I don't think they can do 113 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: that either. So he's gonna have to convince this fan base, 114 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to convince, at least for me 115 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: as a fan, that this is a dude who sees 116 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: what's coming and is ready to be part of the 117 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: future of it For Kentucky. I'm gonna admit, like he's 118 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna take some selling from him to do. 119 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: And he's gonna have to convince the roster, and he's 120 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to convince the boosters, and he's gonna have 121 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: to convince the fans, and he's gonna have to convince 122 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: recruits and he's gonna have to convince the people in 123 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: the portal. If I'm Mark, I sit here and think 124 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: about this next week, because it's gonna happen quick after 125 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: the Louisville game, win or lose. Is this what I 126 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: wanna do? Is this what I wanna do? And if 127 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: the answer is yes, that I'm in, I'll be there 128 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: saying let's go and I'll be doing what I can do. 129 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: But if you're not all in, then I don't think 130 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: you should do it, because the last thirteen or fourteen 131 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: months of complaining about the state of college football just 132 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: didn't gonna work. It is what it is. John Wayne 133 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: is not coming back to star in a blockbuster picture 134 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: next Christmas or next summer. Right. Seinfeld's not on TV anymore. 135 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: You can't buy CDs at the CD store. This is 136 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: college football today. If you don't like it, nobody's making 137 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: you do it. But if you're gonna do it, it's time 138 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: to adjust. So we don't have a season like the 139 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: one we just had. There's a lot of teams that 140 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: started poorly and finished differently. Florida started what O and 141 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: flat five right or one in four maybe oh to five? 142 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: They just beat Old miss today and they're going to 143 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: go to a bowl. Amazingly, Auburn was awful at the 144 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, lost to cow They're up twenty 145 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: one to nothing right now in Texas A and m 146 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: Vandy lost to Georgia State in week two, beat Alabama 147 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: leading LSU on the road. Right now, and we have 148 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: seen a season that was disappointing, wimper and get slowly 149 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: worse all year to where we're the second worst team 150 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: in the SEC. Only Mississippi State is worse. And we 151 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: go into a game against Louisville where they had a 152 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: tragically disappointing loss last week and came back and won 153 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: thirty seven to nine against the Pitt team that looked 154 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: like they were headed to the ACC Championship a couple 155 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago. It is hard to be optimistic about the 156 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: future as it is. And for Mark Stoops, in my opinion, 157 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: he's got a week to get his mindset right so 158 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: that whatever happens after that Louisville game, if we beat 159 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: him like we've done the last five or six years, 160 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: if we lose at home to him for the first 161 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: time in a long time, whatever it is, if he 162 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: wants to go forward. He's got to make a plan 163 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: of action, be definitive, stop whining about what college football 164 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: is today, and lead Kentucky into the next generation. If 165 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: he can't do that, then it might be best if 166 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: we do different things. Only he knows the answer to 167 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: that Tuck. He's not go firing. I have a hard 168 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: time believing he just walks away and leaves all that 169 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: money on the table without having another So he's got 170 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: to decide. Is this for him? It's up to him. 171 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: He could do it, I think, But the last sixteen 172 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: months of the Stoops are really going back to last season. 173 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen if that Mark Stoops is the 174 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: Mark Stoops that comes out of that game against Louisville 175 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday eight five, twenty two eighty seven. Love to 176 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on today. Uh, you're are you excited 177 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: about cutter bowlie for the future? Am? What do you 178 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: think about what I just said? Do you agree with that? 179 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Disagree with it? I'm here with Billy right now. Auburn 180 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: up twenty one nothing against A and M. A and 181 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: M may end up playing themselves out of the playoffs 182 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: on the planes tonight. We'll see, We'll take a break 183 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: and be right back. It's a Local Toy Dealers KSR 184 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: postgame show. Welcme back. It is the Local Toy Dealers 185 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: KSR postgame show. You know, sometimes on on the text machine, 186 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: you do get a sense, Billy of how people hear 187 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: what they want to hear. All right, Mark Soop's been 188 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: here probably what has he been here? 189 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: Twelve twelve? 190 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: I think without question that was probably my harshest segment 191 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: during his twelve years commentary about his coaching. Would you 192 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: agree with that? 193 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'd say that's pretty close. 194 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: I think that's probably true. You know, but it's also 195 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: how I feel like I'm not I'm not taking a 196 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: shot or not taking I mean, it's just how I feel. 197 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: And I get a message it says you putting your 198 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: stake in Mark Stoops is not a good business strategy. 199 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Don't know how you could say that. Where did I 200 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: just put my stakes in Mark Stupents? Literally this, I 201 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: mean literally, that's what you took from from that conversation. 202 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: It just goes to show like people will just hear 203 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: what they want to hear. Yeah, what person rights? What 204 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: person rights? Matt, We've got fire Stoops. There's no doubt 205 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: every fan I know what's him gone, everyone, every single 206 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: one of them. I don't think that's true. Well maybe 207 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: everyone you know, but every fan does it. But I 208 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: would also say you got the money because it's a 209 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot of money, and the people 210 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: that would pay that money are not the people that 211 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: woun't have gone, So where are you gonna get it? 212 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: The people that would pay bouts like that, the people 213 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: that contemplated by paying byouts like that with John cal 214 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: Perry didn't end up doing. Just to think about John 215 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: cal Perry, think about how done this fan base was 216 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: with John cal Perry. They couldn't they couldn't raise the 217 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: money to fire him. So and the boosters didn't even 218 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: like him. They like Mark. So I just don't know 219 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: where people think. I mean, that's a fantasy world. This 220 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: is gonna be Mark's decision. I'm living in the real world. 221 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: You can live in the fantasy world that you could 222 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: dismiss him. I live in the real world, which is 223 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: he is either gonna decide himself to go or I 224 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: guess there's a world where they could do like some 225 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: kind of mutual buyout, But I have not heard that 226 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. Who knows anything can happen. But like 227 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: the day, you can't the idea that you're gonna fire him. 228 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: I just don't know where you think that money's gonna 229 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: come from? The money tree? Like it's just I don't 230 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: know where that would exist. All right, who's up first? 231 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: Skyler? 232 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: Skyler? Go ahead, Skyler? 233 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: Hey, Matt, Hey, Billy. A couple of things. Can I 234 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: make a comment and ask a question? First is I 235 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: may be in the minority. I do not want Mark 236 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: Stoops to go. I think he's built a good culture, 237 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: and I think cutter bully stepping in to day renewed 238 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: a little hope for the future. I thought his swagger, moxie, 239 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: command and everything was great. 240 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: I agree with that. By the way it is, it 241 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: is a way to feel some confidence after that game. 242 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there was I think for a lot of 243 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: people a sense of okay, now maybe you have something here. 244 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I don't know. I don't know 245 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: where you think the offensive line went wrong. I feel 246 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: bad for Brock because he's just had no coverage. And 247 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: maybe it's not that we need somebody really quick, really 248 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: witty back there. But but I don't know did Zack 249 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: Yinser just not do his job for however long he 250 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: was Is that what happened. 251 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination, so buil going forward. I 252 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: think it's a combination of a couple things. And I 253 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. I think there are people who would 254 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: tell you that starting two or like three or four 255 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: years ago, Freddie always used to say this, we got 256 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: away from really giving the young guys reps and developing 257 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: depths so that when people left they could be replaced, 258 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: and that we lost and then we were probably missed 259 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: on recruiting in a couple of years with offensive linemen, 260 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: and so we had like two years where our big 261 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: blue wall system kind of got off track. Then if 262 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: you ask people around the program, they'll say that the 263 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: guy last year was a disaster. I mean that's that's 264 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: generally what people believe. And then it all culminates this 265 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: year where you bring in a couple of transfers, they 266 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: don't really work, you don't have depth. Some of the 267 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: guys that you thought would be your star warts just 268 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: kind of were disappointing, and it led to a disaster. 269 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: I think it's the worst offensive line I can remember. 270 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure maybe during Mark's first or second 271 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: year it was worse, maybe years past that, but I 272 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: can't remember a worse offensive line. I remember plenty of 273 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: worse receivers, quarterbacks, defenses. I don't remember a worse offensive 274 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: line than this one, especially passing running and it's been okay, 275 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: but from pass protection, it's the worst one we've had. 276 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: So it's hard to You're right, I don't know about 277 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: with Brock, Like, I don't know, but I think, however 278 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: good Brock is or isn't. It just seemed to me 279 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: you got a better spark with Cutter, and he's your future, 280 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: so like we might as well go on. By the way, 281 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: You're right, Billy, he's only played three games, so the 282 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: red shirt question would not come into effect in deciding 283 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: who to play. 284 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've seen enough of Brock. I mean, it's 285 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 3: time to start Cutter. He is the future. There's no 286 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: doubt in my mind. 287 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: Well, Billy has spoken, it has been decided. You said 288 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: that so definitively, Well, I, Billy are sports. Yeah, I've 289 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: seen enough. Jimmy, Jimmy, go ahead, Jimmy. 290 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 5: Hey, Jimmy loves you guys, But Jimmy seconds Billy's statement, 291 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, Brocks Brock, Bye bye Brock. But Matt, really, 292 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just so confused. I don't I started 293 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: the season so optimistic, so hopeful, got season tickets for 294 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 5: the first time in my life, and then you know, 295 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 5: things happen and I just got really sad, and then 296 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: we beat over and I was like, yeah, here we go, 297 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 5: all right, and then you know. 298 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 6: Now I just I don't even know how to feel anymore. 299 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: Man Well, I would say, all right, so you're really 300 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: disappointed by the game against South Carolina. We all are. 301 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: But then you're right, beat Old Miss. We go beat 302 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: Old Miss in some ways, you kind of get that, 303 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: you get that game back in some ways by winning 304 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: that one, because I don't think most people thought we'd win. Now, 305 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean that the definitive and I appreciate the call. 306 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: The definitive series of the year is Vandy Florida. All 307 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: and probably we'll look back and say the Vandy game 308 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: is the definitive game of the year. They come in 309 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: there and they beat you, and they beat you, right 310 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: if they beat Alabama, so there should have been no 311 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: like surprise, and they didn't beat you, fluky, They just 312 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: outplayed you and you got out played for the second 313 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: time in three years by Vandy at home. And that's 314 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: I think when the fan base said, yeah, I don't know, 315 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I think that's where they still 316 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: are right now. And you know we had first collar 317 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: still support stoops second one. I don't know, But you 318 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: can't lose the bandy at home two out of three years. 319 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: You just can't. By the way, eight sec games, ten 320 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: offensive touchdowns. 321 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: That doesn't even sound real. 322 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's brutal. Eight games, ten touchdowns. Like con 323 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: we're the only Power five team in America that didn't 324 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: score twenty one points in a conference game. 325 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: And you're gonna bring the offensive coordinator. 326 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: Back, well, but can you change it again? I mean, 327 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: you know it's and at some point, how do we 328 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: keep blaming these offensive coordinators? How many people do we 329 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: have to send packing from here before we stopped to 330 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: start thinking maybe it's not their fault. 331 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't they're gonna fire the offensive line 332 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: coach either. They just brought him back. 333 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Like, I'm not saying 334 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: Bush Hampden has looked great, but like, how you know 335 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: we did this to Eddie Graham. We did this to 336 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: Rick Skangaillo. We did this in some ways to Liam 337 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: who left on his own. But people didn't love his 338 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: second time around either. Really, the only time people have 339 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: ever been happy was the first year Liam. 340 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: And Eddie, the Linn Bowden year. 341 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but people were done with Eddie every and and 342 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: all Eddie did was win, you know. I mean I 343 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: was too. I was kind of done with Eddie, and 344 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: I now you sit there and go, Eddie. We won 345 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: every We won every year Eddie was was the coordinator. 346 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: So here's here's one more thing. Five times in the 347 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 3: last six games, Kentucky's gotten inside the five yard line 348 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: and gotten no points. 349 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: I know, six times on the air. Five times in 350 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: the last six game. That's brutal. I mean, they but 351 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: part of it is they can't do anything on third 352 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: and short, fourth and short. They just think they you know, 353 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: we took for granted in the Bennie and Chris Rodriguez 354 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: years that they could just hand it off on third 355 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: and one and we'd get the first down. And that 356 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: just can't. We just can't do that. And it's not 357 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: only it's the running backs fault, our offensive line, the middle, 358 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: our two tackles, cannot block anyone in pass protection, and 359 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: the interior of our line can god get any push 360 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: on runs up the middle, And like, what are you 361 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna do? I mean, we're left having to run gadget 362 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: plays and we're clearly not very good at those either. 363 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: So who's next, Isaac, Isaac, go ahead, Isaac, Hey. 364 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: I got a couple of things. First off, I'm sure 365 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: people have seen this that, but it's the first time 366 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: since then ten nineteen eighty two UK team that we 367 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: have non score run of twenty points in an SEC 368 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: game in the season. So that's pretty bad. 369 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: That's pretty bad. Yep. 370 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then whatever happens is fine as long as 371 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: Eric Wulford is fired as soon as the level game 372 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: is up next week. I think, did you get it 373 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: to him? Stoop stays that's fine. It's been an absolute 374 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: disaster with him under the offensive line. 375 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know what you mean. I just 376 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: don't know if that'll happen. We'll see, but I don't 377 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: know if that would happen. I also know I appreciate 378 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: the call. Boise State and Wyoming Billy right now are 379 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: tied at ten. If Wolming we're to win that game, 380 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: especially now that Armies getting dismantled as by the way, 381 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: I told you they would Billy. You know who would 382 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: get the probably the non Power five birth Tu Lane, 383 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Tu Lane. And if you think John it's gonna be 384 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: available if Tu Lane goes to playoff, the answer is 385 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna be no. So that's another thing to watch. I mean, 386 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: we're one half away from John Summer all likely finding 387 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: his way into the into the playoffs. Not saying just 388 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: say who's. 389 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: Next, Let's go to Dave. 390 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: Dave, go ahead, Dave. 391 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 7: Hey, Matt, first time caller here, who are what's up? 392 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 7: Just want I just wanted to say, man, I'm just 393 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 7: like the previous caller, first time having season tickets thanks 394 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 7: to my awesome brother Jim. And it was an incredible 395 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 7: time at that Georgia game, being in that atmosphere and 396 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 7: just it was unbelievable and I was hooked. And it's 397 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 7: been so discouraging to see so many penalties. I lost 398 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 7: count this season of big plays and penalties happening and 399 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 7: wiping out those big plays, and I'm sure that has 400 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 7: to be discouraging to the team, the people that made 401 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 7: those plays. 402 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Man, I mean, brutal penalties brutal holds and then today, 403 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't have called it because 404 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: I think of time and setting, they shouldn't have called it. 405 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: But what is Max harriston a scene you're doing smacking 406 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: a dude? Nay, I know somebody hit you, But like 407 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, we'd stopped them. They were stopped, they were 408 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: gonna have to take a field goal, and then they 409 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: get a first time score on the next play. 410 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 7: I just want to I want to believe in Stoops 411 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 7: and I like your opening monologue, but is he the 412 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 7: coach that can take this to the to the next 413 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 7: level of nil and all that stuff? But what's been 414 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 7: disappointing is just the discipline of the team and the penalties, 415 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 7: and it's been so discouraging. And I want to believe 416 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 7: in Stoops, But like you said, is he gonna be 417 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 7: is he gonna embrace this next this name. 418 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: Where you just asked me, is he gonna be able 419 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: to let me ask you, let me kind of throw 420 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: it back to you. Do you think he's able. 421 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 7: To now it's the last few months of just complaining. 422 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 7: I just feel like he's burned out. I feel like, 423 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 7: as my brother said it, feels like cow without the arrogance. 424 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 7: And that's kind of how it feels like he's just 425 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 7: burned out. But if he's not, and if he wants 426 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 7: to be into this, which you know, he's the football 427 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 7: coach and he built this program, I just I want 428 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 7: to believe in him. But I'm just listening to him 429 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 7: talk and watching how he acts, and I'm just like, man, 430 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 7: can he do it? I don't know. 431 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's right, he's not arrogant like like cal, 432 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: He's not off. I appreciate the call. He's not like 433 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: sitting here saying I know much so much more than 434 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: you guys. But dude, you got to be into this. 435 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: Like the day you say, the day you're not excited 436 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: to get up and do your job, especially when it's 437 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: a job that like you don't have to do because 438 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to be the coach here, Like why 439 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: like then, why are you doing it? You know that's 440 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: I had somebody in radio who's now no longer in 441 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: radio say to me, the day Matt you start disliking 442 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: doing it, you owe it to the listeners to get out. 443 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: And I've always thought of that. I mean, I still 444 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: love doing it, but the day that Mark is like 445 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, then he not needs 446 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: to not not do it. And the discipline has been 447 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: awful this year. I mean, discipline has been an issue 448 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: the whole Stoops era. Hisse teams have usually been so 449 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: good and worked so hard that they've been able to 450 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: kind of get over it, but it's been this year especially, 451 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: it's just been terrible the discipline. The discipline problems on 452 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: this team this year, not off the field, but just 453 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: like the way they play have just been constant. And 454 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: then the other issue is holding, which is really just 455 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: a talent issue more than anything else. Who's next, j DJ, 456 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: What's up? 457 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 8: What's up? 458 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: Matt? 459 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 6: What's up? 460 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 9: Billy thinks for taking my call? Shout out to Gavin 461 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 9: last night. He killed it, went to high school with him. 462 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 9: He's a great, great guy. But with that being said, 463 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 9: you know you were talking about Mark stoops selling point 464 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 9: earlier in the in the show, and I think his 465 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 9: selling point is is cutter Bowllie. Because he's a young talent. 466 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 9: Maybe you go to your superstars try to get you know, 467 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 9: Dankey to stay. If you can, I doubt doubt it. 468 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 9: But if you can get bury On to stay, you 469 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 9: know keep people from transferring. 470 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question if you were burry On. 471 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: If you were Burryon, would you stay? Be honest, you're 472 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: burying you got one year left to play. You got 473 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: one year yet to play. You could have gone to 474 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: college anywhere in America. You decided to come here. You've 475 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: got mark, you got what a true freshman now will 476 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: be a sophomore quarterback likely be in your quarterback. You 477 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: have the opportunity, I'm sure he will to go to 478 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: a top ten program. If you were Burrying Brown, would 479 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: you stay? 480 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 9: So that's hard for me because I'm I'm born and 481 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 9: raised in Kentucky. 482 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: So but let's say you weren't because he wasn't. So 483 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: let's say you weren't. That's from Nashville. 484 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 9: If I put my mind setting the barry On, I'll 485 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 9: probably leave. 486 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Yeah, And I think that's 487 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: the problem that's gonna be the problem is you're gonna 488 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: have a lot of kids out there who are deciding 489 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: they have a year left, and they've got to decide 490 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: whether this is the place I could you know the freshman. 491 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: If stoops is all in the freshman, that's an easier 492 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: sell I actually think, but for the seniors and the 493 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: transfer guys, I just think it's gonna be a tougher sell. 494 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 9: Right. And then I have one question too as well, 495 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 9: if I may, but if we would have started Cutter 496 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 9: all year, do you think our season would have been 497 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 9: better or worse? And I'll hang up, listen and thank 498 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 9: you guys. 499 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it could have been much worse. 500 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, you know, don't I don't know 501 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: that it would have necessarily been It's hard to say. 502 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like he's played. I kind of throw the 503 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: Murray game out so that at that point what we've 504 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: seen he threw six passes against Florida, no completions, and 505 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: then this half, so like I don't know, I will 506 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: say there's clearly a spark there. And my reason last 507 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: week for saying play Brock the last two games is 508 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: he gives you the best chance to win. Okay, Now 509 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: I can't say that with confidence. So now I'm not 510 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: sure who gives you the best chance to win, and 511 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: I probably maybe even slightly lean towards Cutter. Well, if 512 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: that's the case, and Cutter is your future, then just 513 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and play Cutter that's that's kind of the 514 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: way I look at it. But the reality is, if 515 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: you start Cutter Saturday, Billy, don't you agree If he 516 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: starts Cutter Saturday, the Brock era is over now at 517 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: the end of the year. I think he has to. 518 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: So it is kind of crazy, like you're deciding who's 519 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: going to be your quarterback next year, probably in who 520 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: you play Saturday, because if you say you're if you 521 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: think Cutters better to win Saturday than Brock against your 522 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: rival in a game you could still win, then you're 523 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: basically telling Brock you're not gonna start next year, at 524 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: which point he's gonna leave. 525 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: So you know, Brock's just gotten worse as the season's 526 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: gone on. I mean, I've been rooting for I. 527 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Think he's kind of beat up. Yeah, I think our 528 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: offensive line is awful. 529 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: I will give them the benefit of doubt. The helmet 530 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: communication didn't seem to be working in the game early on, 531 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: so I don't know that's it. That's just been a 532 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: headache all year. 533 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, who knows, Steve what more and will take 534 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: a break? Ethan, Ethan, go ahead, Ethan. 535 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 10: Hey, Billy, Matt uh So, I got a comment and 536 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 10: a question here. I know you say that like most 537 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 10: of the negativity towards Dukes, it's probably more on Twitter. 538 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 6: Uh. 539 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 10: But from what I've the people that I've talked to, 540 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 10: I'm a season ticket holder, the other season ticket holders 541 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 10: that I've talked to, there's been quite a few that 542 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 10: have said they're not going to renew their tickets unless 543 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 10: there's a drastic change, whatever that may be. 544 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, bad football tickets unlike basketball. Like basketball, 545 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: people don't like to stop buying season tickets because they 546 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: don't know if they'll ever get them back. Right, football, 547 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: you could stop renewing and you could still get it 548 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: back in a year or two. So I do wonder 549 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: like if people would be more likely to not renew, 550 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think that would be how 551 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: they make their decision, but that would obviously be a negative, right. 552 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 10: And then my question is if you think there was 553 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 10: a school outside of the SEC that would be willing 554 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 10: to pay Stoops what he is would be making now 555 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 10: on this contract, do you think that would make him 556 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 10: more likely to leave now or do you think his 557 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 10: heart is just set here at Kentucky. 558 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: I think if there was a good job that would 559 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: take Iowa for example, Well, he would go to Iowa, 560 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: but that's his alma mater. But take like, uh yeah, 561 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: so let's take like, like, what's what's in Iowa? Like school? 562 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: It's not let's fake. 563 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: Can we say too late? Well, no, that's a worse school. 564 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: So like like like take a take a big ten 565 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: school that's not Iowa. So Wisconsin. Right, Let's say Wisconsin 566 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: came up and they wanted him. Yeah, I think he'd 567 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: do it now. I think he would sort of take 568 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: a fresh start. But the other thing is, I don't 569 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: know how long he wants to coach period, right, So 570 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: if he in his mind only wants to coach for 571 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: two or three years, does it make sense to go 572 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: start over at a new program. Maybe not, you know, 573 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I don't know what's in his head. 574 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I haven't talked to him about it. 575 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: The people I know aren't sure exactly what he thinks. 576 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: I think the working assumption is at UK that he's 577 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: going to be back, but that's easy to say it. 578 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: But what if we go lose by two touchdowns next 579 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: week to Louisville. 580 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 10: You know, I don't know, right, So honestly, I almost. 581 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 10: I hate to say it, but I feel like it's 582 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 10: best in Kentucky's long term interest if it's a rough 583 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 10: game next week, because it's gonna be just. 584 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 6: Like last year. 585 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 10: We're gonna beat Louisville, hopes they're gonna be high going 586 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 10: in the offseason, and then it's just another cycle. 587 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate the call. I don't think it's like 588 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: last season. I think it's worse because last season we 589 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: still made a bowl game. We were making a bowl 590 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: game even if we didn't beat Louisville, so we wanted 591 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: to beat them, but we also beat them there. They 592 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: were really good last year on paper, we were not. 593 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: This is different. They're not as good. This year. We're 594 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: not making a bowl game. It's at home. So I 595 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: actually think this loss would be bad, And I don't 596 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: think necessarily we've all processed what losing the louisvill will 597 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: be like, because, be quite frank with you, we haven't 598 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: lost to them in a long time. So you know, 599 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: we'll see. If I'm nine two eight, twenty two eighty seven, 600 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break an him down twenty one 601 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: to seven to Auburn and driving Alabama and Oklahoma tied 602 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: at three. That's a brutally boring game. Also, if Alabama 603 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: loses tonight shakes everything up. Indiana probably got saved h 604 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: to make the playoff with Old missus loss, even though 605 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if they deserve it, they'll probably make it. 606 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: Now that Old miss has lost. We'll take a break. 607 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: Be right back. This is the Local Toy Dealers KSR 608 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: post gip shop. Welcome back. It is the Local Toy 609 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: Dealers KSR post game show. I'm gonna try to play 610 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: this through my microphone here, Billy, so I'll see how 611 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: this sound. This is Uh, we'll see how this sounds. 612 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: This is Mark asked to ask if Mark Stoops asked 613 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: about Bush Hampden's future, what I mean, that's not even. 614 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 11: That's that's hard g even answer because I don't want 615 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 11: to be the headline. Of course he's gonna be back. Yeah, 616 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 11: a lot, a lot of moving pieces that we need 617 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 11: to get. 618 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: Better, you know. So there you go. That's uh, that's 619 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: the comment. Sorry, now it's playing another video. That's the comment. 620 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Was that were able to hear that, Billy? Yeah? 621 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the most part, what. 622 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: Do you mean, for the most part the beginning were 623 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: the beginning. Yeah, that's hard to hear in the video too, 624 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: but you heard Stoops. Yes, Okay, so there you go. 625 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: That's that Mark Saint Bush is back. So if Stoops 626 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: is back, then Bush Hamden his back. That's how I 627 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: would I would read that. And I mean, but you know, again, 628 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: you got to take the coach at his word. He 629 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: he has seemed to suggest he would be back as well, 630 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: So you know that's the thing. There won't be I mean, 631 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna run at least at the top the top 632 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: guys back. Now, there have been there have been rumors 633 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: of Brad White being looked at at Florida State as 634 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: a as a defensive coordinator option. No idea if they 635 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: would even want him or or if that would be 636 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: an offer. But that's you know, that's always a possibility too. 637 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: But at least it seems like if you get Mark 638 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: Stoops back, you are also going to have the same 639 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator's. 640 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,479 Speaker 3: Nate is next. 641 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: Nate go ahead and Nate. 642 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean, there's just no room for optimism 643 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 4: right now, because, like you said, say, if we get 644 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: a fired up Stoops next years, he's ready to go. 645 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 4: He's ready to take us into the future. Well, we're 646 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 4: still punning on next year because we're losing regardless of transfers. 647 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 4: We're losing half of our defense and most of them stars. 648 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 4: We're losing all of our offensive line, albeit terrible, but 649 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 4: we have no debt. So then you're relying on buying 650 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 4: five offensive line and then seeing if that's going to work. 651 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 4: And let me tell you this, because I have it 652 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 4: from pretty good sources. If Brock van Regarth is back 653 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: next year, Cutter Bowl will not be here. And that's 654 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 4: a fact. 655 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 1: Well, I think we'll know the answer to that question 656 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: based on what happens starts Saturday, right, I mean, I 657 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: think the Brock Cutter thing will be decided by who 658 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: starts that game Saturday, Because I I kind of agree 659 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: with you. I can't see a scenario where Brock is 660 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: back and Cutter is back. Now, you know that can change. 661 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: People sometimes say that during the year and then it 662 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: shifts later. But I tend to agree with you that 663 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: that's the most likely scenario. I think if the staff 664 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: believe that, then you're gonna see Cutter play. That's my 665 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: that's my guess. I think they believe highly in Cutter, 666 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: so so we'll. 667 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 4: See you know, But but Matt, can you address my 668 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 4: first part though, like, do you how do you see us? 669 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 6: Not? 670 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 4: Because next year, I believe I think with in the 671 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 4: last three season winning. 672 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: For I think it can be very see that's part 673 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: of my my pessimism is what you just said, Our 674 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: schedule next year is hard. Okay, I'm I mean our 675 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: schedule it's the same teams, but we flip who's home 676 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: and who's away, and it's I think it's harder. Now 677 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: you you'll have the You're gonna have all the good 678 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: teams at home the bad teams away. Now when you 679 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: if you want to make a run, that's not like 680 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: if you had a really good team, you'd want the 681 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: schedule they have next year. But if you don't, you 682 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: could easily go zero to eight or one in seven 683 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: in conference. So that's what makes it hard. I appreciate 684 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: the call. No, it would be hard for me to 685 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: be really optimistic. I mean, let's look at the best 686 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: optimistic case. Dane will go to the draft. I think 687 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: it's almost certain that's not inside knowledge. That's the fact 688 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: that he's projecting the fourth round. And if you're dain 689 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: key with all that's happening, you're projecting the fourth round, 690 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: you gotta go. Okay, you got a ton of guys 691 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: graduating on defense, and then you got dudes like the 692 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: d'Al walker's going so you're gonna probably lose seven defensive starters. 693 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: You know who's coming back that you're excited about, Well, 694 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: they got a couple of freshman receivers. You like Ferrier, 695 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: Gilmore will Cox. Think you got will Cox at running back, 696 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: you got Willie Rodriguez at tight ends. You got some weapons. 697 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: But offensive line is a massive question mark, and defense 698 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be all new. Front seven in defense 699 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: is what would really worry me. A lot of these 700 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: guys in the secondary have had to play this year 701 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: to fill in for people, so I have a little 702 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: more confidence that they'll But the front seven, I mean, 703 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: you're just starting over, and yeah, I don't know. By 704 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: the way, I told you. 705 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 3: Notre Dame was gonna I had to turn that off. 706 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: Turn that it's thirty five to seven. That was the 707 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: easiest bet. The fact that was fourteen was ridiculous. And 708 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: you wanted to pick army. 709 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: Respect our troops. Please respect our troops. 710 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: I respect them, I respect them. I want them to 711 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: be trooping, not playing against Notre Dame in Yankee Stadium. 712 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: Who's next? 713 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: Amazing they lost in Northern Illinois this year. 714 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean that isn't a That is a bizarre loss. 715 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: But go ahead, Jerry, because Northern Illinois is not even 716 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: good six and five and six or something. Jerry, go ahead, Jerry. 717 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 8: Hey man, I don't care who you start quarterback. Okay, 718 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 8: give Cutter Bowlie four games behind this offensive line, he's 719 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 8: gonna be in the same shape vandergriff as in with 720 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 8: happy feet and scared of death back here behind that 721 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 8: line and not well, it's until you get until you 722 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 8: get rid of these coaches and that offensive line. I 723 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 8: don't care. 724 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: And let me ask you a question, Jerry, because you 725 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: know you've been called a long time. I like you. 726 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: You're you're negative, but I but you're consistently negative. When 727 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: you say coaches, who do you mean? 728 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 8: Hamden and offensive line coach? 729 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: When I play you the clip with stoops Hamden's back, which, 730 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: what do you say? Then? 731 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 8: What I say is is I think Steus has gotten 732 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 8: a reputation with these offensive coaches that they're not knocked on. 733 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 8: He didn't have offensive coordinators knocked on his door. 734 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 12: And yeah, I think he did. 735 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: I think he did for a while, but I think 736 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, let me say, all right, so 737 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: we've seen what Liam's done in the NFL, right, and 738 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: Jerry Hampden was very well respected. I mean everyone I 739 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: talked to, the same people that were telling me when 740 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: we got Liam three years ago. Because again, you know, 741 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: I met some people through my NFL show who were 742 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: saying to me, Liam's a great get. They were saying 743 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: the same thing to me about Bush. Which makes me 744 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: wonder Jerry if like, if we were to let him go, 745 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: if he wouldn't just go somewhere else and be really good. 746 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 8: Well, the first thing I would say is the Mountain 747 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 8: West Anteus and when you're in the SEC, you're in 748 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 8: the against the best. 749 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: Limb had ever been an offensive coordinator. Was like, what 750 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: Monment when he came here? 751 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, but but but when he came here, he he 752 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 8: was able to meet the level. And the thing that 753 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 8: worries me is Lim was the guy that recruited all 754 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 8: these quarterbacks. And it wouldn't shock me if if if 755 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 8: Cutter and the vander Griff left and we lose some 756 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 8: of these guys who we've recruited, because once again, they 757 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 8: were recruited by Liam Cohen. And it's just and it's 758 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 8: just a lot of the a lot of the offensive 759 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 8: play call I've seen. We're just bizarre. You know, you've 760 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 8: got an offensive line that's Swiss cheese and you're on 761 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 8: fourth and short and you're gonna run out of the shotgun. 762 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 8: You know you're and give the defense three yards. That's crazy. 763 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 8: I mean, the best play called was when they threw 764 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 8: the ball in fourth and short. And and I just 765 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 8: I can said and and then Alabama's Alabama's off of 766 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 8: line last year couldn't pass protect, and now we can't 767 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 8: pass protect this year. What's the common denominator? 768 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, I think I agree with you about the offensive 769 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: line coach. I think it's hard to imagine a world 770 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: where it makes sense to bring him back. You're exactly right. 771 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean the Alabama that Alabama lost a national title 772 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: last year because of their offensive line, and he was 773 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: the kip so and I appreciate it. 774 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 3: Just go ahead, Oh sorry, I cut him off. 775 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: That's okay, I'm sorry about that. Jerry. Jerry's a good call. 776 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: Jerry's been calling since the Joker day, so he's one 777 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: of the few football postgamers that I that has been 778 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: from day one. Who's next? 779 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 3: Corey's next? 780 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: Corey? Go ahead, Corey, Hey, Matt. 781 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 12: I got a couple of things here. I tend to 782 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 12: agree with the idea that Stoops. I mean, he's the 783 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 12: best coach we've ever had, that's pretty obvious. But I 784 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 12: do think going into the this nil world and the 785 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 12: transfer portal is just so accessible now you can re 786 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 12: build in a week, almost half of the season's over. 787 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 12: I think this idea that Stoops is the one savior 788 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 12: for Kentucky football is not true anymore. Maybe five years 789 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 12: ago when recruiting was a big deal and developing players, 790 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 12: but now you can go to the portal immediately, so 791 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 12: you really just need a guy that's connected with I 792 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 12: think that's actually true. 793 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point, and it's a 794 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: it's a point that is important to make. That mad 795 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: that I did think that two three years ago, and 796 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: I think I was right, But I think you're right 797 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: in that's changed now, Like now you can look at 798 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: Indiana like you can rebuild a team overnight. And the 799 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: thing that Mark is great at I'm not saying it's replaceable, 800 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: but you can find another way to do it now, 801 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: maybe in a way you couldn't three or four years ago. 802 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, And what I mean with that being said, what 803 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 12: really about the way his contract and all this stuff 804 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 12: is going to end up playing out unless he for 805 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 12: some reason wants to go somewhere else or steps down 806 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 12: with a pay cut of some kind, which is unlikely. 807 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 12: We're almost in a lame duck period here where maybe 808 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 12: he comes back for two years with a little bit 809 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 12: of fire, but at the end of the day and 810 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 12: two years, we're going to be in the same situation 811 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 12: we're in now. So in my opinion, if there's any 812 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 12: way to just start that process now, I think it's 813 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 12: better because what is the upside of him coming back 814 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 12: for two years? 815 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: Let me say to you, I don't totally disagree with that, 816 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: And not only is it lame duck, it's lame duck 817 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: in what I would argue will be the most important 818 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: two years in college football in the last twenty five years, because, 819 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 1: as we've talked about on the Morning Show, the rules 820 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: for the next twenty five years of college athletics are 821 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: going to be made in the next year or two, 822 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: and you gotta be ready. It's gonna change and I 823 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: think you're gonna this is a year of flux. I 824 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: think next year is gonna be a year of flux. 825 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: But then I think that next year the rules are 826 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: gonna be set, and whoever locks in is gonna succeed, 827 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: and whoever does it is gonna get left behind. And 828 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: you can and if you're not careful, you're gonna be 829 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: a Nebraska and like just get left behind permanently. Whereas 830 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 1: there are teams that can lock into this new era 831 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: and might create football powerhouses, uh coming up. So I 832 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. I mean, I to put it a 833 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,479 Speaker 1: different way, here's one of the great things. There's gonna 834 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: be a lot of negative things about the new rules 835 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: in college sports, but here's gonna be one of the 836 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: positive things. They're basically putting a salary cap in. Now 837 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: you'll be able to go above and beyond the salary cap. 838 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: But I've talked to some people in college football who 839 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: like think don't think most teams will need to do 840 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: that because it's not like the NBA, where like Steph 841 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: and Lebron are so much much better than everybody else, 842 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: like or were in their primes. Like this is a 843 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: case where there's a lot of guys you can win with, 844 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: and all these schools are gonna have money to spend, 845 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: so it's gonna kind of even the playing field. But 846 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: you better be ready to compete in that world, and 847 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: you better be loving that world because it's gonna be 848 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: a different kind of person that succeeds, right, It's gonna 849 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: be a different kind of person, the guy who can 850 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: intelligently build a team. Think about what Mark's done at 851 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: Kentucky basketball. We don't have the most talented players, but 852 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: he has put together a very smart team using the pieces, 853 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: using the money that we had. That's gonna be college 854 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: football now, and we need a dude that's ready to 855 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: do that. A five nine, twenty two eighty seven. We'll 856 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: do one more and take a final break. Who's next? 857 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 3: Wild Bill? 858 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: Wild Bill? What's up? Hey? 859 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 6: Can you hear me? 860 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 2: No? 861 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: Yes? Go ahead? 862 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 13: Sorry, So I had a bunch of things written down, 863 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 13: but I'm just I've been focusing on soups ever since. 864 00:47:58,920 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 4: You know. 865 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 13: The end of the game is like where the conversation 866 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 13: is going right now. But the overarching theme in his era, 867 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 13: with all the good he's done on defense, excellent draft picks, 868 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 13: guys in the NFL like changed. Our program been the 869 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 13: best we've seen. It's offense and consistency and community at quarterback, 870 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 13: and it's been just like a it's like nails on 871 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 13: a talkboard with qb at uk and he's not willing 872 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 13: to like totally get away from his defensive nature and 873 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 13: football and like actually open up the offense and take 874 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 13: us to a new level. But at the same time, 875 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 13: it's like, with the landscape changing, we need money to 876 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 13: allow us to do that, Like he has to change first, 877 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 13: and I think we can go forward with money and 878 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 13: like how we can build a squad if that makes sense. 879 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: So totally agree with you. I mean that listen, it's 880 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: a different world than college football. I appreciate the college 881 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: different world football. Like, guys don't want to play three 882 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 1: yards in a cloud of dust, and I think Mark's 883 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,479 Speaker 1: natural mind said is to do that now. He would 884 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: say to you, I'm not telling these coaches what to 885 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: do now, And he may even be I mean, he 886 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: may be right about that, but you know, facts are facts. 887 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: We just had the worst offensive season in terms of 888 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: touchdowns Kentucky's had since we were zwer in ten, So 889 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. We'll take a break, 890 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: come back for the final segment. This is the Kentucky 891 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 1: Select Chevy Dealers KSR pregame Welcome back. It is the 892 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: local Tony Dealers KSR postgame show. A lot of yeah, 893 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, you get the wrong wins sometimes a lot 894 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: of big time action with playoff implications going on right now. 895 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 1: Alabama losing at the half to Oklahoma ten to three, 896 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: a and m losing at the half to Auburn twenty 897 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: one to seven, and Boise tied with Wyoming at ten 898 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: with Wyoming driving. Does Wyloming have the worst colors of 899 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: any football program in America? 900 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're pretty close. 901 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: If not, it's either Wildman or Minnesota. Minnesotas are pretty terribles. Yeah, 902 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: it's just a terrible color. But wild mean, I don't 903 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: know why you would voluntarily choose brown as your color. 904 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: Brown is the brown is objectively the worst color. Yeah. 905 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: Seven seven two seven four uh five two five four. 906 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: One person rites, Matt Cutter gives me confidence. But if 907 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: I thought that Covington or Cutter was going to leave, 908 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: I'd be done. Another person says, Matt, thank you for 909 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: the Paddington I recommendation. My kids loved it, and my 910 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: wife and I did as well. Have you watched it? 911 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 4: No? 912 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 3: No, but I'm thinking about it. 913 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: You gotta watch good Watch it over Thanksgiving? Watch Paddington 914 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: two with your family. 915 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 3: Did you watch the b YU Arizona State game today? 916 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: I saw the end of it, saw the the insanity 917 00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: Arizona's Arizona State's coach seems like an insane man. You know, 918 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: he got he was a little too smart at the end, right, 919 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: he was trying to be trying to be cute. Right 920 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: then just scoring, he's like running backwards and throwing it 921 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: in the crowd. And here's what I don't understand. Hey, 922 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: how is it not intentional grounding when you throw it 923 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: fifteen rows into the crowd and you're not out of 924 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:17,760 Speaker 1: the pocket. 925 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. You gotta get past the line of scrimmage, 926 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 3: that's the only thing. 927 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 1: Wait, no, you also have to be out of the pocket. 928 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 3: Out of the pocket and past the line of scrimmage. 929 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: Right, yes, but he wasn't out of the pocket. Okay, 930 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: So if you're not out of the pocket, you cannot 931 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: just throw it fifteen yards in the crowd. So it 932 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: should have been intentional grounded. Second, how is it not 933 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: a penalty when the whole team, when the whole crowd 934 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: runs on the field and the game's still going on. Yeah, 935 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 1: how's that not a penalty? 936 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 3: Should have been It. 937 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: Took him fifteen minutes to get all those people off 938 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: the field. That should have been so that should have 939 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: been thirty yards of penalty, right, there should have been 940 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: intentional grounding and it should have been a penalty. Now, 941 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: they probably still wouldn't have scored. But I don't know, Billy, 942 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 1: how they didn't call those two calls. 943 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 3: But it would have been a very different last play. 944 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: And if I was BYU's coach, I would have been 945 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: losing my mind, especially that they didn't call a penalty 946 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: on the fans being on the field. 947 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 3: Not only that they tore one of the goalposts down. 948 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what they did, like just held it 949 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 3: up for the last time. 950 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: And he's sitting there. Here's a state coach sitting there screaming, 951 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 1: going how could there be a second left? Like, dude, 952 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 1: how could you even know? You know what I mean? 953 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: The referee is sitting there looking at the replay. How 954 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 1: did that dude even how could he have even known? 955 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: He didn't have it in front of him. It was weird, 956 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: losing his mind. His wife is standing next to him 957 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: with a look like, honey, you're on national TV. You 958 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: need to calm down a little bit. It was a 959 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: wild It's one of the wildest scenes in the history 960 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: of football right there. Who's next? JP? What's up? JP? 961 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 4: Hey? 962 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 6: Two quick points number one? What you're talking about with 963 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 6: steps and how he's talking The thing about it is 964 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 6: is it's real. I mean, that's why Chip Kelly is 965 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 6: an offensive coordinator in Ohio State. That's why Virginia's basketball 966 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 6: coach retired. I mean that stuff is real. 967 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: Well god, I mean, like, but you know what if 968 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,399 Speaker 1: Chip if Chip Kelly, if Chip Kelly decided he didn't 969 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: want to do it anymore, although he didn't get fired, 970 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: but if if Tony like didn't didn't do it, you 971 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I grant you. The set 972 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: of skills it will take to be a college football 973 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: coach in the future is probably different than what it 974 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: was in the last five years. But you know, sir, like, 975 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: it is what it is. So you can sit there 976 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: and hearken for another day, or you can deal with it, 977 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 978 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 6: Oh, I agree with you. I'm I'm I'm with you, man, 979 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 6: I agree with you. I'm just saying it's a real thing. 980 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm I'm with you. I mean, but but 981 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 6: and man, what that's what leads into my next point 982 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 6: is when and when you look at when you look 983 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,439 Speaker 6: at a backup quarterback, the backup quarterback always the fun guy. 984 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 6: He's always the person that the crowd looks for. What 985 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 6: what I've I've always looked at is how hard does 986 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 6: the guys play when the backup quarterback comes in? Okay, 987 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 6: and if you look, this team plays harder when Bowley plays. 988 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesse Palmer said that. Jesse Palmer said. Jesse Palmer said, 989 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: when Bowley came in, he thought everybody turned it up 990 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: or not. 991 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 6: Yes. What that means is these guys believe that he 992 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 6: should be playing. 993 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 994 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 6: And so when you talk about earlier in the season 995 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 6: of all of the stuff that goes on, that's part 996 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 6: of that. That whole division, that's part of it. 997 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 1: That's all I yeah, yeah, Now it's a fair point. 998 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that I think there 999 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,760 Speaker 1: was division, but you're right, they certainly had a bigger 1000 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: spark when he came in. I don't. I think that's 1001 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: that's undeniable. I want to go back to the though, 1002 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: the changing thing. You know, Billy, forgive me for just 1003 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: a second, but because you know, the election just happened. 1004 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: One of the things my side says that frustrated me 1005 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: is they were mad or at least whatever, like they 1006 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: would about the the way Trump went on all those 1007 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: podcasts right and likent like Rogan and Theovonne, et cetera. 1008 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: And they were like, you know, they were kind of 1009 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: complaining that that's how a lot of people make their decisions. Well, 1010 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: you know what, you can sit there and complain about 1011 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: it or not, but that's just how it is now. 1012 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: Like the reality is there's a ton of people thirty 1013 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: and under who the only news they get is from 1014 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: podcasts like like Rogan and theovonn. So you gotta do it, 1015 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you don't sit there 1016 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: and why about it? Or you can do it, Like 1017 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: that's just what you gotta do. And I when you 1018 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 1: fight change, you end up like Kodak and Blockbuster and BlackBerry, 1019 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: or you can be like Apple and be a company 1020 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: that people thought was gonna go away and now is 1021 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: the most powerful company in the world because they adapted 1022 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: to change or Netflix right, Netflix whole business model was 1023 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 1: about to go up in flames, the idea of through 1024 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: the mail. So then they said, you know what we'll 1025 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: do streaming and now Netflix is Netflix. I mean they 1026 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 1: got this huge show called Wrestlers. I mean, like that's 1027 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: what that's they were able to do it. Like you, 1028 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 1: you cannot Mark Stoops, cannot sit and complain about what 1029 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: football is? It is it? So do it or don't? 1030 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: Who's next? 1031 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,399 Speaker 3: Camden for four more? 1032 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: Camden? Go ahead? 1033 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 14: Hey man a while, I know it's good to see 1034 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 14: you and Billy. 1035 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. How are you. 1036 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 15: Doing? 1037 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 14: Okay? After that low some matt over the last you know, 1038 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 14: over the last three years. You know, it's it's been 1039 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 14: unsuccessful ever since the twenty twenty one Centriant Bowl wins. 1040 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 14: So rather than the five offens of coordinay we've had 1041 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 14: over the last five probably five years something like that, 1042 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,919 Speaker 14: rather than you know, the QB sails with Devin Larry 1043 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 14: and Rock vander griff what like, how do we get 1044 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 14: these these next future of the twenty five years when 1045 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 14: you call it football? 1046 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 6: Rolls? 1047 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 4: Like? 1048 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 14: How how how do we like, how do we get. 1049 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: Done, Like, how do we get That's a great question. 1050 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: That's a great question. First of all, you you get smarter, 1051 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: and I you go find people who understand the new 1052 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: rules and who and who sort of utilize them. You know. Uh, 1053 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: let me just give you an example. Camden on the 1054 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: basketball scale. Mark Poe has everyone on that staff is 1055 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: really smart and they think about things in an analytical way. 1056 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: They brought it in this guy who's lived in Lexington 1057 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: for many years, uh Ron Brown and Steven Horn, they're 1058 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: friends of mine. They got him to run the collective 1059 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: and they're doing it a different way than a lot 1060 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: of other collectives are doing it. And they were able 1061 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: to raise money in a quick way, and they were 1062 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: able to come up with ideas. And you know, Camon, 1063 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: sometimes they don't all work. When you do this new stuff, 1064 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,919 Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't work. Not everybody loved the Blue White Game. 1065 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: That wasn't a massive success. But you try stuff and 1066 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: you adapt. Mark I think has got to do that. 1067 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: He's got to get away from the old mentality of 1068 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: like we're gonna outwork them and we're going to this 1069 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: and then and think, okay, what does this new era need? 1070 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: And I think that involves probably changing some of the 1071 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: people came in that are that are around you. 1072 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, yeah, so like just like to thing is though, 1073 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 14: it's like he like like you said earlier, man like 1074 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 14: he doesn't he's not like used to like you know, 1075 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 14: like you said, he's not used to this old stuff. 1076 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 9: He said. 1077 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 14: This was like, well you said about the old master. 1078 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 14: It's like, how can you like, you gotta get used 1079 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 14: to it, because you gotta get used to this, Like 1080 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 14: how can you get used to like the. 1081 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 15: Old my era? 1082 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: You got to bring new people in. They can teach you. 1083 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: It's good to hear from you, Cam and I appreciate it. 1084 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: It's sort of like Billy, I don't like TikTok, or 1085 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 1: at least I didn't. I've kind of gotten used to it, 1086 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to be on TikTok. But now 1087 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: everyone's on TikTok. So I said, you know what, we 1088 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: got to get somebody and bring him in who understands 1089 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: this world. And we brought in Mario. And now our 1090 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: TikTok page has fourteen thousand followers. We have a couple 1091 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 1: videos have gotten over a million views. And it's because 1092 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: rather than sit there and whine about all these kids 1093 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 1: in their TikTok. I went and got somebody who could 1094 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,919 Speaker 1: do TikTok, and that's kind of Mark. I'm not saying 1095 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 1: Martin needs to get somebody can, but Martin needs to 1096 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: get somebody who understands what this new era is going 1097 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 1: to be. Like Who's next? 1098 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 3: Just wait till you start dancing to that TikTok. Account's 1099 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 3: just gonna skyrocket. I'm not gonna dance. O, We'll get 1100 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 3: you to dance. Josh is next, Josh, go ahead, Josh. 1101 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 16: A diehard Kentucky fan, longtime listeners, first time ever calling in, 1102 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 16: who are just just just want to pick you Brian 1103 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 16: a little bit? At what point do we start holding 1104 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 16: miss Barnhardt accountable? You know, from from my view, he 1105 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 16: made horrible contract the season with cal Perry, got bailed 1106 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 16: out by Arkansas. 1107 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 17: And him you know, leaving on his own, and then 1108 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 17: you know, in twenty. 1109 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 16: Twenty two the same thing he gave, in my opinion, 1110 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 16: a stupid contract to. 1111 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 4: You know, stoops that's winning but. 1112 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 16: Not really well. 1113 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so I'm the same question. You seem 1114 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: like a good fella, So I'm gonna give you the 1115 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: same question I give when people ask me this. It's 1116 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, right, Kentucky has just come off a 1117 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Citrus Bowl where where we won't where we lost that one, 1118 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: but we came off of Centrius Bowl. We had we 1119 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: had no we won that one. We had ten wins 1120 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: that season. Right, and Mark Stoops comes Mark Stoops agent, Yeah, 1121 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Mark Stoops agent comes in and says, give us this 1122 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: or he may go somewhere else. And we've just come 1123 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: off a ten win season. Will Levis has said he 1124 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: will return for a second year after one of the 1125 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: better quarterback seasons we'd ever had, and and his agent says, 1126 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: I want this, or he may go somewhere else. You're 1127 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: letting him walk. You letting Kentucky fans see the best 1128 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: coach that they've ever had at the time, go walk 1129 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: and go to a school similar to Kentucky. 1130 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 16: I say, I let him walk. 1131 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 1: That's what you do. Yeah, but okay, but again that's 1132 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: easy to say. Now, okay, And I'm not saying you're wrong, 1133 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: But I just want you to think about what the 1134 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: reactions of the fans would have been if Mark Stoops 1135 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 1: left and let's say he went to Nebraska and he 1136 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: took Will Levin with him and they went there. What 1137 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,439 Speaker 1: would that have been like, I don't think it would 1138 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:06,919 Speaker 1: have been nice. 1139 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 16: The amount of the contract is what bothers me. He 1140 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 16: gave him so much money, and the way the contract 1141 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 16: deals structured with Stoop sad, with cal Perry, they have 1142 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 16: no incentive to win, so they lay down. 1143 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not true. Great coach, that's not true. Great coaches. 1144 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Great coaches hang on. Great coaches have an incentive to win. 1145 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: If you go look at the top ten coaches in 1146 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: the country money wise, seven of them are going to 1147 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: be in the playoff this year, right, Like, like, great 1148 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 1: coaches win. I don't think the guys who make a 1149 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: lot of money just sit there and go I don't care, right, 1150 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Nick Saban was making more money than anybody. 1151 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: He also was winning more money more than anybody, was 1152 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: making more money than anybody. The names, I get you, 1153 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: But again it's all about leverage. You say you would 1154 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 1: have let him go, Okay, maybe you would have. I'm 1155 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 1: just saying that's a real hard decision to make. If 1156 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: we had won ten and he walks out the door 1157 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: and he takes Will Levis with him, and he takes 1158 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: and all of our good players transfer and Vince Marrow 1159 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: leaves and takes all our recruiting. I don't think most 1160 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: of our fans would have been thrilled about that. 1161 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 16: I hear you, and I can partially agree with that. 1162 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 16: I think what bothers me the most is it wasn't 1163 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 16: just with football though, like we done it with cal too, Calvi. 1164 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: Remember when we did it with cal Remember when we 1165 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 1: did it with Calvo. Coming off twenty seventeen, We've just 1166 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: been to the Final eight with Malik Monk and with 1167 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 1: staring Fox and Bam aute Bio and UCLA gives cal 1168 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: the offer and Cayl says to Mitch, just match it. 1169 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: At that point, he had really only had one bad year, 1170 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: and we had been to four final fours in seven years, 1171 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 1: and we were a loop may shot away from another one. 1172 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: You gonna let John Caliperry walk to U c l 1173 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: A at that moment. 1174 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 16: Me personally, absolutely, because Okay, we're UK. Were UK basketball 1175 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 16: now that were It's whole other story of basketball versus football. 1176 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 16: Were basketball. It's UK. You know, we're the number one, 1177 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 16: arguably the number one basketball school in the entire country 1178 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 16: and always will be. 1179 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 15: So you I. 1180 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: I think it is hard, and I appreciate the call. 1181 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you. I appreciate you going 1182 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: back and forth with me. I think it's hard to 1183 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 1: say you do that because I remember when those two 1184 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 1: situations were happening in the moment, and Billy, I don't 1185 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: remember a lot of people complaining. I don't remember a 1186 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 1: lot of people wanting him to go to UCLA. And 1187 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't remember a lot of people wanting Stoops to 1188 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 1: leave after that Citrus bawl. Now, yeah, you're right. So 1189 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, And I would also say 1190 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: about Mitch, he looks like he nailed two basketball hires 1191 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: this last year. None of us even knew who Kenny 1192 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 1: Brooks was Mark Pope. Most people, myself included, weren't thrilled 1193 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: about the hire, And so far it looks pretty good. 1194 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: Who's next, Tory, Tory, go ahead, Tory. 1195 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 18: Yeah, man, that was brutal. Listen to part of the 1196 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 18: benefit of a podcast. I could just skip through that, 1197 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 18: but I just sit here and listen to that guy. 1198 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 18: But anyways, I'm pretty mad. I'm pretty mad, as you 1199 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 18: can probably tell, like most people are. I think you 1200 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 18: said something similar when Calip Perry was towards the end 1201 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 18: of his time here that I don't think the relationship 1202 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 18: between Stoops and his staff and what he puts on 1203 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 18: the field and the fans, I don't think it's it's 1204 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 18: untenable now. I don't think he can recover from. 1205 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 1: It's that bad. Gets that bad right now. I mean, 1206 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: do you think the Stoops thing is as bad as 1207 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,439 Speaker 1: the cow thing was last year? 1208 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 18: Yeah? Because not not for any personal reason or like 1209 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 18: I'm not an ex's and o's guy. 1210 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: He's had like. 1211 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 18: Fifteen or sixteen different staffs since he got here in 1212 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 18: terms of like just primary coaches, just rotating, and he's 1213 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 18: created his culture of oops. And it's like Cutter comes 1214 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 18: in in the second and the second half. The first 1215 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 18: play he sacked for ten yards. The immediate first play 1216 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 18: he comes in immediately sacked. We got down to the 1217 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 18: one yard line on a mirapulous drive. We were on 1218 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 18: the one yard line, and that drive ended up with 1219 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 18: us missing a field goal from thirty three yards. 1220 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 6: Ooh, And I mean we just have to grin and 1221 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 6: bear it. 1222 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 8: And it's it's like if we get a pick six or. 1223 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 18: A big defensive play, it's Maxwell Harrison's given somebody what 1224 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 18: Willie on the opposite side of field, and that's fifteen 1225 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 18: yards and it's gone oop and we just have to 1226 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 18: sit here and watch it. And he's it's weaponized incompetence, 1227 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 18: and it's it's every game. It's like the question marks 1228 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 18: are trending on Twitter from the Kentucky media, just like 1229 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 18: what is this? And it's bad and you can there's 1230 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 18: so many people that it's like a laughing stock and 1231 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 18: has become a meme actually funny. 1232 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 7: It's hard. 1233 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 18: You'd be hard to script what happened in this game 1234 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 18: because the amount of times that, like the sinner just 1235 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 18: threw the ball over Cutter's head immediately after a big player, 1236 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 18: It's like you can't. Yeah, like you don't need to 1237 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 18: be in a situation where he has to catch it. 1238 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 18: Why don't you just play normal. 1239 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Football and stop? 1240 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 18: I feel like Charlie Brown. I feel like Charlie Brown 1241 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 18: every week watching this team to spend one hundred times. 1242 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 16: There. 1243 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I appreciate the call. I I 1244 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: don't disagree with some of what you said there. There 1245 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 1: is a kind of an oops. 1246 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 4: This. 1247 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't personally think the stupid situation is where the 1248 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 1: cow sit you wation was last year like unredeemable with 1249 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 1: some fans. But maybe I'm wrong. I mean, it's hard 1250 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 1: to read, to be honest with you, it's hard to tell. Yeah, 1251 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it's going to penning 1252 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: what happens next week. Though, losing a Louisville is gonna 1253 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: not be good if it happens, but we could still win. 1254 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: I mean, they're very beatable. 1255 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 3: Who's up next is a funny visual though. 1256 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 1: That is a funny Georgia State. By the way, the 1257 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 1: team that beat Vandy. Do you know what their record 1258 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 1: is after having beaten Vandy to in eight and eight 1259 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: and one of their two wins is against a Vandy 1260 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 1: team that beat Alabama? All right, go. 1261 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 3: Ahead, last caller, Brad, Brad, go ahead, finished strong. 1262 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 17: He was up Fellows. I'm a jump on the bandwagon 1263 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 17: of the last caller. I'm right there where he is. 1264 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 17: We have become the universe of the moral victories. 1265 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 4: I'm the tired of it. 1266 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,639 Speaker 17: I think at this point you'd have to get whoever 1267 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 17: you got to get in the room, the attorneys, whoever 1268 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 17: it is. They need to figure out a deal. 1269 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: And let's say, let me ask you a question, because again, 1270 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 1: I want you to I want to put you in 1271 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: the chair of the a D. Let's say, Mark Stoops, 1272 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 1: We're to say to you, what does that sound behind you? 1273 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 17: By the way, I probably my kids. 1274 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Let's say let's say you were to sit in 1275 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,640 Speaker 1: a room with Mark Stoops's agent and he said to you, 1276 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 1: we're not leaving unless you give us every dollar. And 1277 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 1: then you went to your boosters, your primary football boosters, 1278 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: and they said, we like Mark, we're not paying for it. 1279 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,560 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? 1280 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 15: Well, that's why I think you know that DC. If 1281 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 15: we're getting a lot of money to be in these positions, 1282 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,560 Speaker 15: and you got to figure out who and what you 1283 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 15: need to you know, come up with to come to 1284 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,600 Speaker 15: the to the table to get what. 1285 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 1: If it doesn't exist? But what if it doesn't then 1286 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: what if it doesn't exist? 1287 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 8: Then then what? 1288 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 15: And then what I think you're going to have is 1289 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 15: that last guy, the last guy that called and me, 1290 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 15: You're gonna have a bunch of us as fans that 1291 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,759 Speaker 15: probably are going to show. 1292 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 6: Up, maybe not at all. 1293 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 15: Maybe you know, I don't know what it is, but 1294 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,599 Speaker 15: I mean it it's going to financially impact them. 1295 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 17: It's like they can just roll out. 1296 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 15: They can't just roll out any kind of product and 1297 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 15: just think people are going to keep coming back, because. 1298 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 17: Like he said, it's the Charlie Brown effect. Man, I'm tired. 1299 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 15: I'm tired of something, you know, watching these games and 1300 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,679 Speaker 15: they do exactly what he said. They'll make a thirty 1301 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,879 Speaker 15: yard bomb and the next play, you know, do a stupid, 1302 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,799 Speaker 15: unsportsmanlike conduct. 1303 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 16: You know. 1304 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: No, I think you make a very valid point. I 1305 01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. That's a good one to end on. 1306 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: There's no easy answer because I usually focus on where 1307 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,640 Speaker 1: would you get the money? There is something on the 1308 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: other side, which is, if you roll everything out the 1309 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 1: same again next year, how do you get people to 1310 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 1: buy in. It's a fair point, completely fair point, and 1311 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why I am a little bit 1312 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:22,640 Speaker 1: pessimistic about the state of the program because I don't know. 1313 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's an easy answer, and that's 1314 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 1: why I said what I said to start. 1315 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:28,680 Speaker 18: Man. 1316 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:34,640 Speaker 1: Mark's been great here and I hope that if he 1317 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 1: ends up coming back, he approaches this in a way 1318 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: that sounds differently than he's approached it the last year. 1319 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: Because I can't reiterate enough how much this world of 1320 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 1: college football is about to change and those who are 1321 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: on the cutting edge that's going to be what the 1322 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 1: next twenty years are. So I hope we can get 1323 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 1: to a point one way or the other that we 1324 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: get there. Billy, thank you very much. We went a 1325 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 1: little long tonight, but that's because it was a good show, 1326 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: good callers. It's probably the best set of callers we've 1327 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 1: had for one of these in a while. So thank 1328 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: you all. We will see you on Monday, Monday in studio. 1329 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday we will be at the bar. 1330 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,760 Speaker 3: Actually, if you are Wednesday, we're on a remote in 1331 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 3: Glasgow for Don Franklin. 1332 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 1: You're telling me you're sending me to Glasgow right before 1333 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,679 Speaker 1: thanks for Thanksgiving break, Yes, that decision. 1334 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's been on the schedule for a couple of months. 1335 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 1: I thought we were going to London so I could 1336 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 1: get it on my way home. 1337 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 3: Now it's actually the opposite direction. 1338 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,840 Speaker 1: You're sending me the opposite direction of my home for Thanksgiving. 1339 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,600 Speaker 3: Day before Thanksgiving. 1340 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 1: What all right, I'm just gonna and we'll wrap it 1341 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,679 Speaker 1: up with that, all right, Happy Saturday night, everybody. We'll 1342 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: see you later. This has been the local TOYSR Post 1343 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: Gitting Show