1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck gets 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: going right now, and you have a special guest joining us, 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: the one and only and Coulter. She is, of course, 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the author of thirteen New York Times bestsellers and has 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: a substack and a syndicated column, So subscribe to a 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: substack for video content and her column. There, Miss Coulter, 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: I hear from a little, a little voice in the 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: background that it is your birthday, So happy birthday, first 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: and foremost of you. Thank you. Yes, that's because I 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: tell everyone weeks in advance, so we're pleased to be 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: part of your of your celebration today. So and I 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you. You know, we have these stories 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: going on every day now. It seemed at least Fox 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: is covering it. To Clay and I talk about it. 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: The border is so bad and so dystopian when it 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: comes to lawlessness, constant illegal crossings, and it's all really well, 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say all, but it's primarily through asylum requests, right, 19 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: So it's not even Oh, if only we would catch 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: these people, they're turning themselves in in huge numbers and 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: saying I want asylum. None of them are going to 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: get asylum, but they're pretending like that this is the 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: whole scam. Then they get let into the country, they stay, 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: they don't get no one gets deported. Basically under Biden, 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: I thought there should be a bigger issue in the midterms. 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: Why don't people care more about this? Do they care 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: more about this? What do you think? Oh, it's a 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: huge vote getter. It's a problem though, getting Republican politicians 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: to talk about immigration, because, as you've heard me banging 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: on about for years, the donors want the cheap labor, 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: they want open borders the same way the left does, 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: and they got politicians years. I mean, that's what was 33 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: so great about Trump's two thousand and sixteen campaign. Once 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: the campaign was over and he won the election, everything 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: he was ever going to accomplish had been accomplished. And 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: that was just showing politicians. I don't care if the 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat the country ordinary voters, not the ones 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: who have billion dollars lobbyists in washings and are desperate 39 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: for there to be a wall on the border, for 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: illegal aliens to be deported, for there to be fewer 41 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: legal immigrants coming in. I mean, year after year after year, 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,559 Speaker 1: Americans are pulled on this, do you want more immigration? 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: The same less immigration? They keep saying less, and the 44 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: politicians keep giving us more. So yeah, of course it's 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: a huge issue. The other reason didn't really come up 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: much in the mid Germs was that the man who's 47 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: accomplished everything he was going to accomplish as of election 48 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: night two thousand sixteen, demanded that all these Republican candidates 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: um makes make the stolen two thousand and twenty elections 50 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: there their number one issue. Now, I mean, clearly the 51 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: mid terms were crushed by Donald Trump. And oh, speaking 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: of which, I wanted my bet with m clay Traffts 53 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: please remind them of that. Well, what was the bet? 54 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: I forget? Which was this a new phone? Who's this? 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not even sure what is the what 56 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: the herschel bet? Is this the herschel Walker? Yeah, it 57 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: was herschel Walker. I owe you, I owe you a steak. 58 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: I told Buck as we finished the first hour, I 59 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: was like, I think I lost a big bet, and 60 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: but maybe she won't remember, and can I can I 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: ask you? You know, I put out a Pole. I 62 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: was just curious. I put out a poll on Twitter 63 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: and it got like sixty thousand votes, which it's not scientific, 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: but a lot of people weighed in. Um, and it 65 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: was about responsibility for what happened specifically in Georgia, and 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: I put herschel Walker, Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, or just 67 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: write in basically there a lot of people wrote in 68 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: with different responsible for the loss? What's the question? Responsible? Yeah? Responsive? Yeah, 69 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: responsive for the loss in Georgia. What how much does 70 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: leadership really matter? I mean, we had Kevin McCarthy on 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: the show yesterday. I get more angry emails about Mitch 72 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: McConnell probably than anyone else in American Like more than 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, Nancy Pelosi or you name it is that 74 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: the problem? Does it make a big difference? How do 75 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: you see all that? Well? Coincidentally I wrote about in 76 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: my column this week. It went up yesterday morning. Um No, 77 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: there's no question Trump is one responsible for Herschel Walker. 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't like it was Herschel's lifelong dreams 79 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: to run for Senate in March twenty twenty one. It 80 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: was Trump who put out a statement, Um, oh, herschel 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: would be the best. He should run for the Senate. 82 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: He'll take that. He'll be unstoppable, just as he was 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: on the football field for my US football league. Run 84 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: Herschel run um And why why did he think? Why 85 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: did Trump think that Herschel Walker would be a fans 86 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: has to candidate everyone knowing he has you know, a 87 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: string of illegitimate children throughout this stuff. Well, he's a 88 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: fine guy. I did everything I could, by the way, 89 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: to lose that, bet Clay Travis, I was. I was 90 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: promoting Herschel. Obviously he's better than any Democrats. But why 91 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: are you putting up problematic candidates? Oh? Yeah, because he 92 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: was on Celebrity Apprentice and played for Trump's defunct football league. 93 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: That's how Trump picks candidates. Incoming bombs on this one. 94 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: Go ahead, sir, No, Look, I mean I worked hard, 95 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: and we'll have to. I will take you out to dinner. 96 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Buck will probably be involved too, because I definitely lost. 97 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: I worked as hard as I could for Herschel to win, 98 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: same thing as you did. Anne. I wanted him to 99 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: win desperately. I was pretty crushed. I'm not gonna lie 100 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: that we lost Georgia, that we lost Nevada, that we 101 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: lost Arizona, that many of those candidates did. I think 102 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: the fact that erman one is maybe the biggest indictment 103 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: of the American electorate that I have seen in some time, 104 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: and also a further endorsement of the fact that if 105 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: you have a D beside your name, unlike Republicans, Democrats 106 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: just show up and vote party line. Because a lot 107 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: of Republicans split their ticket, you know. Uh, Brian Kemp 108 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: won by seven and a half points over Stacy Abrahams, 109 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: who was a well funded candidate, every other Republican one 110 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: in the state of Georgia other than Herschel. But Republicans 111 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: they lost because they switched their vote. So Buck made 112 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: a good point. Uh, and I gave you credit for 113 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: this Affagree with everything you just say? Okay, okay, you 114 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: would disagree with everything, all right, But but I made 115 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: a good point. Disagree all right, you had disagreed with 116 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: everything I just said. Tell you why you disagree with 117 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly it was the candidate your own facts 118 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: say that, yeah Kemp one, um um, sorry, Governor of Georgia, 119 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp, whom and the Secretary of State Brad Rassenburger, 120 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: whatever you say? His name. Who are the two Republicans 121 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Trump hates more than any other in the entire nation. 122 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: He spent money primarying the Republican governor of Georgia, and 123 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: the Republican governor of Georgia won that primary by fifty points. Yes, 124 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: the voters are trying to tell us we are done 125 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: with Trump saying. Yes, I'm saying, is Republican voters one 126 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: hundercent Trump again? Because he was he was encouraged. It 127 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: was one of it was mass Griano, the guy running 128 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: for governor. He was a nut. His number one issue 129 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: was as recommended as he insisted in pressured Republicans to say, 130 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: the stole Lin election. Masterriana was at that capital on 131 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: January sixth. He wanted to try women for murder for 132 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: having abortions. You're gonna run candidates like that. No Oz 133 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: could have won that. Master Riano dragged him. Then, Okay, 134 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: so we agree on some of that. I guess what 135 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying is it's Republicans in many of these states 136 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: splitting their tickets that actually cost Republican candidates, right because 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: it's Trump. It's okay. So, but your your analysis is 138 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: that Trump is causing that to happen. So what I 139 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: was going to build out here is in Georgia. One, Yeah, 140 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: they're not getting I think their tickets for governors or 141 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: attorney general, secretary of state. But if you're going to 142 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: keep pushing the ideas of this narcissistic moron infants, yeah, 143 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: we're that. Republicans are going to keep saying, please, just 144 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: send us a normal Republican, please please. And by the way, 145 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: I was shocked at how well, despite my bet with you, 146 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I was rooting like mad for Herschel Walker, and I 147 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: thought the Republican voters, you know, God bless them, they 148 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: kept Trump away this time. Um And and Kemp, the 149 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: popular governor of Georgia, campaigned for Herschel. I thought it 150 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: was going to be forty five fifty five. It was 151 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: really close. So I don't think you can blame Republican 152 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: voters in Georgia. They came out and voted for the 153 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: Republican even though it was not he was an imperfect candidate. 154 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Let's put that, okay. So what I was gonna say, 155 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: by the way, just bombs in every direction. I was 156 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: gonna say, we got to call this segment within bombs 157 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: away or get into which I respect throwing bombs here. 158 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: Buck had a thesis, I think he gave you credit 159 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: for it, Um, that the reason why the politically correct 160 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: era in the nineties ended was because OJ was found 161 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: not guilty. We I did give her credit because we 162 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: sent her the cliff. Yes, that's right. Um, So, how 163 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: do we break the woke virus in the United States? 164 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I was so crushed by 165 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: both twenty twenties outcome and twenty twenty two and is 166 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: it felt like a perfect time to destroy the Democrat 167 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: Party for their woke virus, and yet they continue to 168 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: win and the woke virus gets crazier and crazy year. 169 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: How does it end? How do we lance this boil? 170 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: How do we rid the body politic of this absurd 171 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: woke of virus. Yeah, it's funny. I've been thinking the 172 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: exact same thing. That is the thesis of my book 173 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: mug Um and I go through just ramped its crime, 174 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: much like we're going through right now. Um. In seventies eighties, 175 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: we come upon the nineties and if you were alive 176 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: during the OJ verdict, you will remember this. There was 177 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: there was a moment when when OJ was found not 178 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: guilty and Black Americans throughout America. Howard University. Um, you 179 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: know fast food places have historically black colleges across the 180 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: country cheered, cheered. Everyone's seen the trial or anotherment. To 181 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: know that that OJ was in fact guilty, um cut off, 182 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: cut off his ex wife's head and killed her on 183 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: goldment and to see black people cheering the equivalent of 184 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think OJ's hilarious on Twitter. I don't 185 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: know if you follow him on top I cut you 186 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: in here, but you know that there are tons of 187 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: twenty something girls sleeping with OJ now in Las Vegas. 188 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: I have friends out there. He goes out all the 189 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: time and girls just throw themselves at him, many of 190 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: whom were born after the double murder. Well, other than 191 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: the double murder. It's a pretty cool cat. He is 192 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: pretty entertaining on Twitter, and that woke up. It used 193 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: to be exactly the way it is now. That woken's 194 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: the way it is now. Um, you know you constantly 195 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: have these blowhards and dwell. I think the problem in 196 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: America is the systemic racism. That phrase didn't exist yet, 197 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: but oh it's white racism. And and that's when it 198 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: was the greatest thing that ever happened to black Americans 199 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: because it was just like as I say in the book, 200 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: it was like a subway card that didn't work anymore, 201 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: pulling this racism. Yes, and I've been wondering what what 202 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: what is it going to be? Is it gonna be 203 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: maybe this Brittany Grinder drave today. But if you want 204 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: to stop losing, because it really did suck, this should 205 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: have been a red wave your this should have been 206 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: a red tsunami. Way, you have to start telling the 207 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: truth to your listeners that Trump is a big, fat loser. 208 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: He lost fourty seats in the House for US in 209 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, he lost the election his own 210 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: election in twenty twenty when there was a red wave 211 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: across the country. Well, and I still have we have 212 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: a stake back because I think Trump is still going 213 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: to be the nominee. So I think we're so so 214 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: I guess the question is truth to your listener. Look, 215 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're going to have a big 216 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: Trump We're gonna have a big battle in twenty twenty three, 217 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be between the Santa 218 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: Saint tru battle. Trump is so dumb, But you are 219 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: ginning up these these few and far between dead enders. 220 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Did you see anybody Trump versus De Santis an they're 221 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: you're telling them they're part of a large group. No 222 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: they're not, They're not, They're they're slightly bigger than God. Well, 223 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: well this, well this very large group is actually going 224 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: to be sending us emails for the next two days 225 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: about how you know that that I will I will 226 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: say this. Let me just say this. I think that 227 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: Buck and I are going to provide a form and 228 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: this is important for a real debate about what the 229 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: future of the Republican Party should be. And it's going 230 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: to be like everybody gloves off, throwing punches. And what 231 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: I respect about Anne is she doesn't tiptoe up. She's 232 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: not pretending to tell you what exactly she thinks. And 233 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: I think this is the real conversation. This is why 234 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: like people who think when De Santis and Trump, if 235 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: it happens, get into a ring, that it's gonna be 236 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: a really nice, well organized boxing man, You're gonna roll 237 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: off there and they are going to try to gouge 238 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: each other's eyes out, and you have to everybody out 239 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: there listening has to get ready for that. It ain't 240 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a genteel affair. And to be fair, Miss Culture, 241 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: we call a lot more balls and strikes here on 242 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: the Trumpster than a lot of the other folks in 243 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: the radio world. I will tell you congratulations saying it's 244 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: it is true that we actually are willing to say 245 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: I about So, how does this play out? Then, Anne? 246 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: In your mind? You don't Buck and I have bet? 247 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: I think we both have steak bets on this. I've 248 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: already lost a steak bet to the extent that I 249 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: have because I said Herschel was gonna win. I really 250 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: thought he was. Um, how does this play out in 251 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty three? In your mind? Um? I think there are 252 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: so few people who are still supporting Trump though they 253 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: turn tune into Fox News and your radio show and 254 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: think they're part of some large group. No, it's pathetic 255 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: deadheads following them around. We look at the pictures from 256 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: his presidential announcement and draft. Look, I'm sure they I 257 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: feel about them the way I feel about Jimmy Swagger followers. 258 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Probably the followers were lovely people, but I have about 259 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: ten more minutes of patience with them. They have got 260 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: to wake up. Oh no, we got we got to 261 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: bring along all the all the the Trump voters are 262 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: our family, and we got to all mobilize together here. 263 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: But and we actually are at time. So we want 264 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: to say happy birthday, and people can write Anne at 265 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: her substat I say one more thing very quickly. We 266 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: literally have like twenty seconds. Yeah, right after you announced 267 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen introducing him. I don't know anyone 268 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: who supported him in two thousand and fifteen. We still 269 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: support them now. No, these are all the Johnny come lately. 270 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: We supported him for the issues and he betrayed us. Okay, 271 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: check out an culture substack everybody. I love the flame thrower. 272 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: I love. We should open up we should open up 273 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: phone lines to this. So thank you, Anne. Okay, we're good. 274 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, I still think Trump's gonna be 275 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: the nominee of We're gonna throw everything we have behind him. 276 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: And I think I think the Trump brings a lot 277 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: to the table that nobody else does. But An is 278 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: unhappy with the way the midterms went, and I understand 279 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: that's that's a part of it. Anyway. Yeah, the phones 280 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: are exploding eight hundred two two two eight two big tent, 281 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: big conversation here and let's talk about something else for 282 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: a second. Cyber thieves. We could all agree we don't 283 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: like cyber thieves. Agree. So many people these days are 284 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: buying gifts online. They're putting all of the information out there. 285 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: They're buying airline tickets, putting their credit card out there 286 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: and hoping that the data doesn't get stolen. 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It turned into let's put all 330 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: the cards on the table. Let's actually just lay this 331 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: out for everybody. There's a lot of back and forth 332 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: right now. I hear it all the time. I was 333 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: at a dinner last night with twenty rock solid Republicans 334 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: down here in Florida, and we actually did just for fun, 335 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: we did a straw pole. And the straw pole came 336 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: out pretty close to even between DeSantis and Trump, as 337 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: in who it wasn't who they want, it was who 338 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: they think to be fair, who they think will be 339 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: the nominee. So I sit here and I say to myself, Okay, 340 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: this is going on all over the place. Every person 341 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: that I know who cares about politics right now, Clinton 342 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: are talking about this, texting each other updates. Who's saying, what, 343 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: how are things going? Who is going to lead this 344 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: party going forward? And I'm gonna say this, anyone who 345 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: thinks that they know for sure, as in they can 346 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: predict the future of who I think is mistaken. I 347 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: think it's very possible it's Trump. I think it's very possible. 348 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: As to Santist, I think it's also you know, it's 349 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: a crazy world we live in, and we're not going 350 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: to know for at least another six months or so 351 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: who the Republican nominee is even likely to be based 352 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: on actual polling that's going on, and you know, six 353 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: months give or take. I'm just pulling it out of 354 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: thin air. But so we wanted to bring it on 355 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: here and allow somebody who keep in mind, and for 356 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: people who are saying, because I know we're going at 357 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: these emails, I'll say, hey, you guys have a duty 358 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: and obligation in the house that Rush built, and I 359 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: always say, yeah, we absolutely do. And that's to have 360 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: a conversation that brings in people within the party. First 361 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: of all, Anne and Rush we're very close friends. I 362 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: don't know. I think some folks know that, or they 363 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: were close friends for many years. And Anne obviously wrote 364 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: a book in Trump We Trust and was one of 365 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: his earliest supporters, earliest supporters, and then turned on him 366 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: as a result of what he did in office. Now 367 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: I could have sit here, it's hard in radio. I 368 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: don't want to sit here and argue he was right 369 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: though on China and China trade, Polot like, you can't 370 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: just leave all that he was right. I don't only 371 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: want to get into all the things you'd say, because 372 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: if we had another voice you people would say, what 373 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: about booming economy the Trump had, what about the deregulation 374 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: the Trump had? What about the US Mexico Canada trade agreement, 375 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: what about dealing with China? What about no new war? 376 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: What about the best border control we've seen in two decades. 377 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: That has to be a part of the conversation. But 378 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: there are people who have substantial followings right now in 379 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: the world of conservatism Clay, who are having this discussion 380 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: as to who should be the leader of the party, 381 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: and we, I think have to have a forum for 382 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: people within that family on the right to discuss what 383 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: the direction, what the future is. If we only serve 384 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: one side of that discussion, we're not saying we're taking 385 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: sides here. If we only serve one side of that discussion, 386 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: I think we do a disservice. I think this show 387 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: is a big public forum for people who are conservative, 388 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: for people who are libertarian, for people who frankly maybe 389 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: left a leaning in the past but have come over 390 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: because of the authoritarianism that they have seen in the 391 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: wake of COVID and also what happened to Brett Kavanaugh 392 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: and all those things. And I think if we pretend 393 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: that this is not going to be as I said 394 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: when Anne was on, this is going to be a 395 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: nasty eye gouging, rolling around in the mud battle over 396 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: who is the nominee in twenty twenty four. This is 397 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: not going to be some situation where Trump clears the 398 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: field like it was in twenty twenty and you and 399 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: me and Buck and everybody out there said, hey, we're 400 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: all in for Trump. I think there can be a 401 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: lot of divisions, and I want to throw this in 402 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: there too. Would Trump have even been Trump without having 403 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: to go through that primary and defeat people that by 404 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: the way, we have on the show, and we think 405 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: are you know, Ted cru is a fantastic senator and 406 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: a really good American and you and I both like him. 407 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: You know, Marco Rubio is doing a really good job 408 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: in Florida. Trump had to beat those individuals. It got 409 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: a little nasty sometimes, but by the time Trump made 410 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: his way to that primary, he was, you know, a 411 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: well oiled machine going up against Hillary Clinton. So it's 412 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: likely there's going to be some kind of a primary here. 413 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: We want to hear from folks on this one, and 414 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: we want to hear voices that aren't just going with whatever. 415 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean last they voices bring on guests. They aren't 416 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: just going with whatever they think the consensus is. At 417 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: any one point in time. You can agree or disagree 418 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: with Dan Buck with Anne, and she's super smart. She's 419 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: super smart, and she represents a segment of the Republican base. 420 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you there are a lot of Yeah, 421 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that want it to 422 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: be disantist. I'm just gonna tell everybody out there right now, 423 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: but they're scared of upsetting their Trump supporters that are 424 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: their friends that they love. That's out there that's out there, 425 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: and you see this person accurate. And by the way, 426 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: you're I think your point about being out to dinner. 427 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: You were with twenty people last night in Florida and 428 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: you basically did a straw pole. I'm having the same 429 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of straw poles all the time when I'm out 430 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: to dinner. Number one question that people in media, and 431 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: I think Republicans are talking about that, Lee, is your 432 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: team Trump or you team DeSantis. Now, look, DeSantis hasn't 433 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: even answered announced yet, and he may not. He may 434 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: decide that he's not gonna do it. I think he's 435 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: gonna run. I think you think Buck he's gonna run. 436 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: But until he's officially in the battle, that's not indefinite. 437 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: But all of you out there listening right now may 438 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: well have to make this decision. So we have got 439 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: loaded lines. Yeah, we're wrapped and stacked here. Yes. Uh, 440 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: And let's see who's up first. Let's go to hold on. 441 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull up the other North North Carolina starts 442 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: it off. Yeah, let's see what Bill has sick. Go 443 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: for it. Bill, Hey, guys, how are you doing that good? Hey? 444 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: I just you know, listening to Anne Coulter having been 445 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: a fan for a very long time, going back to 446 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: her first books about the Clinton administration. I think Anne 447 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: is to do a little soul searching on who she 448 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: has aligned herself with on the never Trump side. For 449 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: the record, I was a cruise guy in sixteen My 450 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: Heart when when he didn't get the nod, but Buck, 451 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: you just you just pretty eloquently laid out Trump's accomplishments. 452 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: I think conservatives have for a very very long time 453 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: wanted someone Reagan esque type who was the counterpuncher. Trump 454 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: was the The Rockefeller wing of the Republicans gave us 455 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: forty years in the wilderness. And Trump was completely unafraid 456 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: of opposition, of the media, of anything and everything that 457 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: was thrown at him. So if Anne is comfortable aligning 458 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: herself with the Lincoln Project, the National Review, the yeah, 459 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: you're you're eloquent on this issue, and we appreciate you, 460 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: you know, weighing in on what everything you've said. I 461 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: just to be clear, there are people that became so 462 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: anti Trump that they abandoned the right. Anne is not 463 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: one of those people. She's just anti Trump. She doesn't 464 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: she doesn't go on CNN and do the whole Oh, 465 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: everybody should go vote for Raphael Warnock or whatever. We've 466 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: seen a lot of never Trump heroes just now. I'm 467 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: not saying you're necessarily saying that, but I'm saying there 468 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: are some people on the right who haven't sold out 469 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: their principles. They just don't think Trump is the future. 470 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: But I think look on the counterpuncher point, your Trump 471 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: had that in a way that we've we haven't seen 472 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: anybody on the Republican side really in my lifetime. Trump 473 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: is fearless and that is what attracts you and me 474 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: and many people to him. That doesn't mean that Trump 475 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: is infallible or that he deserves to not have to 476 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: win the twenty twenty four And I think Buck, you 477 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: made a good point. Trump wouldn't have been Trump if 478 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: he didn't go through the eighteen or nineteen contenders in 479 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and effectively fillt them. He earned sitional state. 480 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: He earned it, right, that's the point. He earned it 481 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: in a way. You know, he was boxing and he 482 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: had to beat the stepping stones or whatever to get 483 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: to the the actual title fight. Tom Brady doesn't get 484 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: to go to the super Bowl every year, even though 485 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: he's the greatest quarterback of all time. He still has 486 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: to go through all the contenders every year to get 487 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. And we know that the lines. 488 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you want to send us 489 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: an email right away, we're reading those emails. Become a 490 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: VIP at clayinbuck dot com. Now that's a good time 491 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: if you want to cut right through Clay and Buck 492 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: dot com vip emails. Have you become a subscriber? David 493 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: in South Carolina, David, what do you got for us? Hey, guys, Yeah, 494 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm tired of hearing about these people. Immediately 495 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna blame Trump. I blame the Republican establishment, especially 496 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: mix Mitch mcconnal. There's no leadership in the Senate, and 497 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about blaming him for twenty Sorry to cut 498 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: you off, David, you're talking about blaming them for twenty 499 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: twenty two the results. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean these 500 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: guys should have been there's no leadership in the Senate. 501 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: They should have been there in Georgia. They should have 502 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: had all these guys they're pushing, They were laid on everything. 503 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: The financing was going in the wrong place. He's pulling 504 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: financing on these things, and if he would have won, 505 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: he would have given himself credit to leadership. The redistricting 506 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: killed us. I don't think they fought hard enough. The 507 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: establishment the governors in these states that killed us. We 508 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: had so many house races that were close that we 509 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: lost and we still got seeds. So we did all right. 510 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: But that come out Trump. It's the same thing Mitch 511 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: McConnell opposed. You know, legan back then, the Tea Party there, 512 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: the established me you know, the Wall Street Journal, editorial 513 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: page Times. It's just they want to go they want 514 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: to blame everything on Trump. What about O day they're 515 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: back candidate Colorado got slaughtered. Look, so you're you're with 516 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: I tried, by the way, I was trying to get 517 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: this in the end, but you know, she got rolling. 518 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: And the problem with radio is if you try to 519 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: talk over or you know, it just turns into cross talk. 520 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: And we want to respect our audience's ability to hear 521 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: everything that's being said all the time. But I was 522 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: gonna say, what about Mitch McConnell, because a lot of 523 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: people are upset about Mitch McConnell. But that's a topic. 524 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Will return to one more before we go to break 525 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: by the way, eight hundred two two to eight two 526 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: were lines wide open. We want to hear from you 527 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: across the country on this Eddie in Virginia. What do 528 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: you got, Eddie? How are you doing? We're great? Uh? 529 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: You know, I I like Trump and I liked his policies, 530 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: and I vote a for him and UH, but I 531 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: gotta met with uh and UH. I don't think he 532 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: uh should run again because everything's gonna be brought back 533 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: to the stolen election and everything back, and everybody's getting 534 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: tired of it. I'm getting tired of it. I know 535 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: a lot of my friends are getting tired. Would you 536 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: who would you vote for? Because you're speaking I think 537 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: for a certain segment of the population as well. Do 538 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: you have a favorite candidate in twenty twenty four? Right now, 539 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: you're a Trump guy, but you're wavering. I'm assuming you 540 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: would like Buck and eye vote for Trump if he's 541 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: the nominee in twenty four. But before we get there, 542 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: there's a primary race. Who is your guy or girl? 543 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: Do you have somebody that you would prefer to support? 544 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: I like the scientists. Probably a cruise if you you 545 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: went in on it. Look, thank you for calling it Eddie. 546 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: And like we said, we want to get a lot 547 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: of We know, all the lines are lit, phones are 548 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: blowing up, email boxes are filling up. Tell us what 549 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: you think about this, because let's let's all just this 550 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: is the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room right now. 551 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: This is the or the you know, the elephant and 552 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: delivering room, or pick a large animal whatever. This is 553 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: what everybody behind closed doors on the right is discussing. 554 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: And we're having that conversation out in the open with 555 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: all the u We'll get back to in a second 556 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: eight hundred two, A two two eight two, rising inflation, 557 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: a volatle stock market, reaking havoc on retirement accounts. 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Reaction pouring into and Coulter off 576 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: the top ropes on Donald Trump, and I just want 577 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: to say this, in my opinion, Buck and we were 578 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: saying this off air is going to be the story 579 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three because I think Rhonda Santist at 580 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: some point is going to announce and this battle because 581 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody other than Trump or to 582 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: Santists who can be the nominee. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe 583 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: Glenn Youngkin is gonna show up at the debates and 584 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna be amazing. Maybe Nicky Haley or Mike Pompeo 585 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: or Mike Pence, and we're gonna come on the day 586 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: after the debate and we're gonna be, like, my goodness, 587 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: I've never seen a more succinct and beautiful and magisterial 588 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: performance than one of those guys might offer. I tend 589 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: to think it's gonna come down to Trump to Santis, 590 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: and I think everybody out there has to understand that 591 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be nasty. And the analogy I was using, Buck, 592 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: this this reminds me of sports, because it's like Alabama 593 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: versus Auburn. We're number one right now in Birmingham, Well 594 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: Tid versus war Eagle. That's right, Buck. It's like Michigan 595 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: versus Ohio State. We are number one all over the 596 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: whole state of Ohio. We love you. People are going 597 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: to be super passionate about their side, and if we 598 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: wanted to, we could be like, oh, we're gonna pretend 599 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: that the other side doesn't exist and we're going to 600 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: avoid it and ignore it. I don't think that's how 601 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: this show should be as we prepare for twenty three, 602 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: I think all of you out there and we're gonna 603 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: take a bunch more of your calls, and I think 604 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: the Trump advocates and eventually the De Santis advocates, we're 605 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: gonna have a public forum here. We're gonna let them 606 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: make their arguments to you. Doesn't mean that we're pro 607 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: de Santists or pro Trump or anti De Santist or 608 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: anti Trump. This is the biggest forum in all of 609 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 1: radio to make this decision, and we think it's important 610 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: to you, guys hear both sides of that r We 611 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: are pro conservatism and defeating the commies and saving the country. 612 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: So whoever is the most useful in a leadership role 613 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: to those very broad ends, we can get in and 614 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: we get into the specifics of what all that means 615 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: every day. That's where we are on all this. Let's 616 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: take We got a lot of calls still. We have 617 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: Kenny in Indiana, He's got some thoughts for us. What's 618 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: going on? Kenny? Oh, Kenny's gone? Eric in Phoenix, what 619 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: do you got for us? Eric? Danny in Denver? What 620 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: do you got Danny? All right? Can you hear me? Yes? 621 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: We got you, hey, man, I just want to have 622 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: a have some beast to pick with you an end culture. 623 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm twenty three, I'm gen Z. I used to be 624 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: the biggest Bernie supporter in twenty sixteen, but I switched 625 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: to Trump because Bernie center's balled down to Hillary Clinton 626 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: and the Democrats. But I just want to say, I'm 627 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: not a conservative, I'm not even a Republican, but Trump 628 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: Trump won my vote because like he's so empty establishment. 629 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: He called out people like George Bush and Obama because 630 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: like I'm young, but both of those presidents were bad, 631 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: like they just ruined the country. And I'm not saying 632 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm in the Trump like cult or bandwagon, but I'm 633 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: just saying us he's he's a populist, and well, he 634 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: definitely expands some of the some of the parameters of 635 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: of who on the you know who will vote for 636 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: um based on what we saw in twenty sixteen. So 637 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: what do you think, though, I'm just curious. You said 638 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: you had a bone to pick with us. What is 639 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: your bone to pick with us? Well, no, they're a 640 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: big bone. But I'm just saying that you have people 641 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: like and culture who like give their two stints. But 642 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: if we listen to their two stints, like in twenty 643 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: sixteen or even twenty twenty, we would have he would 644 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: have lost with the Ted cruise, or we would have 645 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: lost with a jet Bush. And well, I think to 646 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: be fair, Anne was a super Trump supporter in his 647 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: most vocal and earliest supporter period. And she was the 648 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: one who went on the Bill mar Show and said 649 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: that he would he would win. That was early in 650 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: the primary, and they all laughed at her. And to 651 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: Bill Maher's credit, actually he had her back on to 652 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: say you were right. Nobody should have laughed at you. Yeah, 653 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Who's up next? We got to 654 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: keep our well, we got wet. We only got about 655 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: a minute place, so why don't we We also got 656 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: emails coming in. We're gonna keep it going here, you're 657 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna come back. I'll read some of the emails. Will 658 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: continue to take your calls eight hundred two eight two 659 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: two eight eight two uh, And we will continue to 660 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: allow you guys to voice your reaction to Ann Coulter 661 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: bringing a flamethrower into the show at the top. Don't 662 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: if anyone, if anyone you know doesn't necessarily agree with 663 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: every with Anne's particular style, but is it just thinks 664 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: de Santis has to be the guy we please call 665 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: in if you think it's Trump, and anyone who doesn't 666 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: think it's Trump is crazy call it. We just want 667 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: to know what you're thinking, what you're feeling all over 668 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: the country right now, because look, let's be honest, Clay, 669 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: everybody listening to this right now has thought at some 670 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: point about this issue in the last few days, maybe 671 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: the last few hours before the show, So let's talk 672 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: about it. Is the number one conversation that is going 673 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: to be occurring among Republicans throughout twenty three. We got 674 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: an early start on it here in December. Thanks for 675 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: hanging with us on Clay A Buck