WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: The Riches People In Tech

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tex Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech and I have a

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<v Speaker 1>dated episode here. It's time for a classic episode of

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff because it is Friday, and this episode originally

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<v Speaker 1>published on April seventeen, two thousand thirteen. This is one

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<v Speaker 1>that I think desperately needs an update, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be fun to go back and visit. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Richest People in Tech Enjoy. We're taking a list

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<v Speaker 1>from the top tech billionaires off of Forbes list, which

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<v Speaker 1>they published pretty much on a yearly basis. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is from the list of tech billionaires. We kind of

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about who these people are and what

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<v Speaker 1>they've done to kind of get to where they're going,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe some little trivia facts about yeah, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a profile, just to see, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>these these are the people that are running all of

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<v Speaker 1>the businesses that are creating all of the cool stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we talk about basically, and so there's some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are who are working for the same company. There's

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<v Speaker 1>three from one company in fact, that rhymes with shmoogle.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoiler alert. Um, but uh, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the folks that are on this list, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, you know, this is this is like

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<v Speaker 1>the people who have the most money. It does not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily mean they're the most influential, because at least a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of them are for the most part retired, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And and also it doesn't necessarily mean that they have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that kind of Scrooge McDuck giant swimming

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<v Speaker 1>pool of goal of coins. It's mostly wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 1>stock options, so you know, right, but nonetheless, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>may not have a lot of liquid assets compared to

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<v Speaker 1>what they have in investments. But hey, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that I'm sure they're not they're not hurting, probably

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<v Speaker 1>none of them are. Now. They can probably afford a

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<v Speaker 1>nice ice cream cone on a warm summer's day. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk about some of them. So yeah, coming

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<v Speaker 1>in at number fifteen is James Goodnight, who has probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most awesome name. I know he's I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a PhD. So it's doctor good Night, Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>good Night. That is amazing. I did not think about

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<v Speaker 1>that until you said it. Dr Goodnight is awesome. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Goodnight is worth, according to Forbes, about seven point

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<v Speaker 1>seven billion dollars. And and this this is the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the bottom of our list. Yes, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going. We're going from number fifteen down to number one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a countdown. You can actually all play along at

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<v Speaker 1>home if you like, and place bets on who you

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<v Speaker 1>think is in the top five. Well, we'll try not

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<v Speaker 1>to give any spoilers. No, but we've already said that

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<v Speaker 1>three of them are from the same company. So as

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<v Speaker 1>as we get down, you're gonna be thinking, huh, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>which you can think of a couple of names that

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been mentioned yet. All right. Well, what good Night

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<v Speaker 1>did was he co founded a company called s A s.

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<v Speaker 1>John Saul's back in nineteen seventy six. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a business analytics software company. Yeah, and originally it was

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<v Speaker 1>part of a research project. You see. Uh, James good

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<v Speaker 1>and I grew up in North Carolina, so he's a

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor of mine as far as I'm concerned. I'm born

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<v Speaker 1>in Georgia, so I consider folks from North Carolina my neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>And he began to work with computers back when he

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<v Speaker 1>was a sophomore at North Carolina State University. So he

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<v Speaker 1>graduated with eventually with a pH d in statistics. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's seventy right now. If that gives you an

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<v Speaker 1>idea of what kind of era he was working in computers.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when he was working in computers, it was before

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<v Speaker 1>computers were really I think people worked on. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>certainly were no personal computers at the time where he

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<v Speaker 1>was getting into them. He didn't find you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>and John Stiles founded the company in nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just when personal computers were barely getting their start.

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<v Speaker 1>So he uh, he had helped design some equipment for

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<v Speaker 1>ground stations to communicate with the Apollo mission, which is awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. Yeah. So he then joined the faculty of

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina State and while he was a faculty member there,

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<v Speaker 1>he began to work on this project which was called

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<v Speaker 1>a statistical analysis system or s A S I was

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<v Speaker 1>for agricultural research actually to crunch some of that data

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<v Speaker 1>exactly statistically analyzing the information coming back from an agricultural project.

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<v Speaker 1>And he realized that there was a broader application for

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of statistical model for lots of different industries.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's when he and Saul's got together and

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<v Speaker 1>UH and founded s A S and UH. He led

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<v Speaker 1>the company to grow every single year. And he's been

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO for essentially thirty five years now, and every

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<v Speaker 1>year he's been CEO, the company has grown. And perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>the most remarkable thing, I think, according to what I read,

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<v Speaker 1>the company has never laid off a single employee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're supposedly completely excellent to work for. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are number two behind all companies aside from Google,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in like employee satisfaction ALVE. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. Now, that doesn't mean that someone hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>fired from that company, but no one has been No

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<v Speaker 1>one's job has been eliminated due to like cutbacks or something,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, when you're when you're talking thirty five years,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing and UH And there have been books written

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<v Speaker 1>about his management style. He's he's often shown as sort

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<v Speaker 1>of an example to folks about how to manage a company.

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard that he kind of developed his philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>while he was working on these ground systems for NASA,

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<v Speaker 1>because those projects had a lot of turnover, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, he was like, this is not the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to get anything done because you have to you

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<v Speaker 1>have to ramp people up as they come into replace people.

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<v Speaker 1>You're set back when someone leaves, so and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time to reading and spinning whales. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's one of those companies that add

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<v Speaker 1>has all kinds of services on its campuses and and

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<v Speaker 1>lots of educational support and snacks in the break room,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And uh, from a from a personal standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>he met his wife Anne while he was a senior

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<v Speaker 1>at at North Carolina State and she was attending Meredith College.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have three kids. So you gotta think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a kid of a billionaire. Now, a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires were gonna be talking about. Another interesting thing I

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<v Speaker 1>found out about a lot of them is that many

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<v Speaker 1>of them are philanthropists. Some of them are philanthropists to

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<v Speaker 1>such an extreme as to it, you know, they plan

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<v Speaker 1>on giving away a large amount of their wealth before

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<v Speaker 1>they pass on. And uh, and I know that there

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually a fairly common thing I've heard among a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these people who have said they want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that their their kids understand the value of

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<v Speaker 1>hard work and the responsibility and not just coast along

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<v Speaker 1>on the accomplishments of the parents. Right. Yeah, Since so

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<v Speaker 1>many of these people, you know, worked themselves with the

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<v Speaker 1>ground up, they kind of go that that was a

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<v Speaker 1>good life lesson. Yeah. Yeah, a few of them had

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat privileged upbringings, but a lot of them actually came

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<v Speaker 1>from from pretty humble beginnings and had worked their way

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<v Speaker 1>up to uh, you know, not just not just the

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<v Speaker 1>top of their their company, but the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>financial industry. So let's move on to number fourteen. This

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<v Speaker 1>is our first Schmoogle person, as I recall, that's uh

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Schmidt. Yes, yes, he's worth a reported eight point

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<v Speaker 1>two billion in net yep, and he was he used

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<v Speaker 1>to be the CEO for Google. He was the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>for Google for several years. He's currently the executive chairman

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<v Speaker 1>and international Ambassador. I think that's a honorary title. He actually,

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<v Speaker 1>well not just honorary, because he went to North Korea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she just went with that with his daughter and um

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Richardson to talk to the leaders of North Korea

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<v Speaker 1>about opening up internet channels. And apparently some of those

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<v Speaker 1>talks actually started to see some some results. Apparently, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea began to allow foreign visitors more access to

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<v Speaker 1>things like WiFi, and some folks are saying it's a

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<v Speaker 1>direct result of Eric Schmidt's visit. That being said, as

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<v Speaker 1>we're recording this podcast, there is a kerfuffle in the

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea area, and so I would imagine some of

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<v Speaker 1>those issues are becoming a bit more complicated at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>as as they tend to do when nuclear warheads are involved.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's you know, I always heard of Eric Schmidt

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<v Speaker 1>as the CEO of Google and being like a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of this shrewd businessman. I did not realize because I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I just never had looked into his background very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that he has a background not just

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<v Speaker 1>in business, but in actual programming. Yeah, he got his

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<v Speaker 1>engineering degree than a PhD in computer science. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't. He was brought on to Google back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand one as the chief executive to bring a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more business experience into the next Right, he

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<v Speaker 1>had been the CEO of Novel before that, and but

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<v Speaker 1>he he had actually co authored the lex analysis software

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<v Speaker 1>program for Unix and UH, and so yeah, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>also he's our second PhD. Um and uh. He got

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<v Speaker 1>that the University of California while he was actually working

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<v Speaker 1>on another project there. So he's working on a project

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of California and pursues a PhD at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. Of course, he was at one point

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<v Speaker 1>the technology advisor to President Obama. He was also at

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<v Speaker 1>one point on the board of directors for Apple, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He did resign from that position after it was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like there was some tensions between Google and Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly stemming from iOS versus Android. In fact, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was called iOS at the time. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>because he joined it in two thousand and six. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And and then when when everything was kind of golden

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<v Speaker 1>and people were going like our Google and Apple going

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<v Speaker 1>to make beautiful babies together, and then they were like, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. Is that they both had they both had babies,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both thought their baby was the most and

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<v Speaker 1>then they tried to fight them with Pokemon. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you just gave me a great business idea that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to pursue after this podcast. Bat Hey, hey, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get away Vocabama. Uh. Yeah, So he he was

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<v Speaker 1>on the board of directors for Apple for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>he stepped down. There were there was some mounting tensions

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<v Speaker 1>between the two companies, and it was pretty clear that

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be difficult to maintain a advisory

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<v Speaker 1>position at one company when York, the company you are

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of, is seen as an increasingly as a competitor,

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<v Speaker 1>so considered a conflict of interest, and he stepped down.

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<v Speaker 1>He married a woman by the name of Windy Boyle

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<v Speaker 1>and had two children with her, but they separated in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eleven, and now he's dating a concert pianist.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one really interesting thing about a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>these big, big names is that technically their salaries are

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<v Speaker 1>are practical nothing. In in Eric Schmidt's case, as of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eight, anyway, his salary was technically one dollar

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<v Speaker 1>per year. And you know, all of his fortune is

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<v Speaker 1>is wrapped up in all of these stock options. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you usually end up getting the majority of your compensation

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<v Speaker 1>ends up coming in the form of of stocks and

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<v Speaker 1>other investments, uh, which which which is fair when you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's you go from a stock value of eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars to over six hundred and three years it

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<v Speaker 1>does suggest that that you might have made one or

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<v Speaker 1>two good calls right in your time, especially when when

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<v Speaker 1>you're the one who who created the launch of those

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<v Speaker 1>stock options. That, yeah, that speaks well for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>almost certain that taxes have something to do with that

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<v Speaker 1>one dollar salary, but since I'm nowhere near a billionaire,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know for sure. Uh. Let's move down to

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<v Speaker 1>the next person, number thirteen. Now here's the first person

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<v Speaker 1>whose name I'm going to butcher. It's Pierre Amadyar, who

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<v Speaker 1>is worth eight point seven billion dollars. He's better known

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<v Speaker 1>as the founder of eBay. And of course eBay is

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<v Speaker 1>that auction site that did really, really well. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was it exploded on the Internet when it shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after debut. I think a debuted in in like ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty early. Yeah, eBay launched in and it

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<v Speaker 1>did it. Of course, was one of those companies that

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<v Speaker 1>gave a lot of other people the idea that the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet was a place to make your fortune. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, how could you deny it? I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>this this one idea was doing incredibly well, and it

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<v Speaker 1>made Pierre Almadyar a billionaire overnight. When the afternoon over

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon afternoon. In fact, yeah, in the middle of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>He became a billionaire when they held the initial public

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<v Speaker 1>offering for eBay. Yeah, so three years after he launches,

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes a billionaire because of the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>interest in this company. So again that's before the dot

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<v Speaker 1>com bubble bursts. So eBay had a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>right parts in place to survive the dot com bubble.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also I think helped create the dot com

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<v Speaker 1>bubble in a way because all these other people said

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<v Speaker 1>that was possible, Why can't I Yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bandwagoning that happened, and and at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, you can't support hence bubble. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he was born in France, uh and he now

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<v Speaker 1>makes his home in America. He is his parents were Iranian.

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<v Speaker 1>Still are I mentioned he's only forty five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty five years old, and he's given away a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his wealth already. He is known as a philanthropist,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's one of the people who signed something called

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<v Speaker 1>the Giving Pledge. The Giving Pledge was something proposed by

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<v Speaker 1>the number one entry on our lists. That's something for

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<v Speaker 1>you to listen for when we get there. It was

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<v Speaker 1>co pledged by um Co co created by Warren Buffett. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Buffett was one of the creators of the Giving Pledge.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one is the number one on our list.

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Befett is not the number one in tech and

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Buffett does not does not He does not appear

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<v Speaker 1>on this list as he is not one of the

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<v Speaker 1>tech guys. But he also created a philanthropic investment firm

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<v Speaker 1>called the Amadyar Network. And this is also not unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>There are several people on this list who have created

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<v Speaker 1>uh foundations that are actually investment firms because what they

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<v Speaker 1>do is they were given a certain amount of grant

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<v Speaker 1>money to start and then they invest that money and

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<v Speaker 1>then from the returns on those investments, they fund various

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<v Speaker 1>charitable efforts. Uh So. He graduated with a degree in

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<v Speaker 1>computer science from Tufts University and for a while before

0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.920
<v Speaker 1>he founded eBay, he worked for a subsidiary of a

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<v Speaker 1>little company called Apple Computer. The subsidiaries called Claris and

0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that's when he then went on to co found a

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<v Speaker 1>company called in Development, which was originally pen based computers.

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<v Speaker 1>So any sort of computer that would have a pen

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<v Speaker 1>based operating a stem that you would use that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he originally went into. It eventually became a shop which

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<v Speaker 1>was an e commerce site, and then from that he

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<v Speaker 1>got the idea for eBay. Yeah, I think was auction web.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing that he technically sold was a broken

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<v Speaker 1>laser pointer. Yeah, fantastic. That just makes me think of

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<v Speaker 1>the weird al song about I bought it on ebit.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and Uh and almady are married Pamela Kerr Almadyar

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<v Speaker 1>who supposedly had a huge pest dispenser collection, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that is this is part of why he decided to

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<v Speaker 1>found eBay because of his wife's pest dispenser wow collection.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that. It's always amazing to me

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the the what was the genestic alright number twelve? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go with a German uh Entry Hasso Plotner,

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<v Speaker 1>who was worth eight point nine billion dollars acoring of

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<v Speaker 1>Forbes and he is the co founder of German software

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<v Speaker 1>company s A P, s A P A G and

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<v Speaker 1>U s A P stands for a system analysis and

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<v Speaker 1>program development or if I'm going to butcher my German

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<v Speaker 1>system and a system analyze on program the vic lunk

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<v Speaker 1>that's I a thrish dish The only thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>can pronounce in German is my own last name. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's fair. I got my German is terrible. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He he founded this company along with four other former

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<v Speaker 1>IBM colleagues. So he used to work for IBM along

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<v Speaker 1>with these other four gentlemen, and and they they founded

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<v Speaker 1>this and it was a company that made enterprise software.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that means that they made software for other companies.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't software for you know, you to bring home

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<v Speaker 1>and install in your personal computer. This is something that

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<v Speaker 1>large companies would use. And in the case of of

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<v Speaker 1>S a P, it was software that's designed to manage

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<v Speaker 1>business operations and customer relations. So you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not something that would appeal to small businesses. It was

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<v Speaker 1>meant for big, big, big, big big. Yeah. Yeah. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of database kind of crunching going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the process. But that means, you know, big companies mean

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<v Speaker 1>big customers. So it's it's one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other companies have looked into. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the names we're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>will be familiar to you, but maybe not as a

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<v Speaker 1>customer like a direct customer, but rather that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of you know the name, and maybe if you work

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<v Speaker 1>for a big company and work with those those products

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<v Speaker 1>you know the name of, you know some of the software,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, yes, yeah against on your computer at home,

0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to have this kind of stuff installed.

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<v Speaker 1>But um yeah yeah he he um co founded this

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<v Speaker 1>back in two he's he's sixty nine as of right now. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh he uh he he has an interest in

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<v Speaker 1>lots of different things, including yachting and uh. And his

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<v Speaker 1>interest in yachting, he has seen himself compete head to

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<v Speaker 1>head against another person who will appear on our list

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<v Speaker 1>further down. I'll go ahead and spoil it because it's

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<v Speaker 1>too funny and I will never remember by the time

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<v Speaker 1>we get down to to this fellow Larry Ellison, CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of Oracle, So Larry Elson very well known for his

0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:13.920
<v Speaker 1>yachting uh interests and uh and how so Platner have had.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've both participated in yachting events where their individual

0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.359
<v Speaker 1>yachts went directly head to head against each other. And

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<v Speaker 1>apparently there have been words exchanged battle yachts, some in

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<v Speaker 1>German battle battle yachts driven by babies. All right, we're

0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.600
<v Speaker 1>getting a little too far. That's sorry. It's maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>after season four or five and things are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>peter off, we have to introduce a new twist. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was kind of interesting that these guys

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<v Speaker 1>and I got really snarky in my notes, didn't. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it shows that the CEO still know how to have fun,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the rest of us common folk. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 1>has also Plattner has also supported philanthropic efforts. In his case,

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<v Speaker 1>he has spent a lot of money UM to support

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<v Speaker 1>effort in South Africa to combat AIDS and the AIDS

0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.639
<v Speaker 1>crisis there, along with other charitable efforts not just not

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<v Speaker 1>just that one. UM. And he is married and has

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<v Speaker 1>two kids. Alright, moving up to number eleven. Now, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you take this one because because she's

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<v Speaker 1>the woman. What what is I get that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what you're getting at, Lauren because we

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<v Speaker 1>share the same name. That's why do you know? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it pronounced Lauren? And okay, all right, Lauren Powell Jobs

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<v Speaker 1>worth a net ten point seven billion UM. She is

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<v Speaker 1>she is the wealthiest woman in tech in fact, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is um Steve Jobs widow who we

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about so um. She she most of her

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<v Speaker 1>wealth comes from the fact that she owns seven point

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<v Speaker 1>three percent of a little entertainment company you may have

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<v Speaker 1>heard about, Disney, yep, seven point of Disney. That that

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<v Speaker 1>translates to about six point nine billion dollars worth of cares. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is through the trust that Steve Jobs left

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<v Speaker 1>to her when he passed away. Yes, but she's also

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know it's not she has inherited quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit from Steve Jobs, but she herself has been

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<v Speaker 1>very instrumental in several different companies. Oh. Absolutely, she's She's

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<v Speaker 1>only forty nine years old. She's um. She's got a

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<v Speaker 1>few degrees in business, and unlike Jobs, she stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>her her studies. But he met her when she was

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<v Speaker 1>in college, I believe, and so at the at Stanford University.

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<v Speaker 1>And she is the co founder and president of the

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<v Speaker 1>board of for College Track and College Track as an

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<v Speaker 1>after school program that's designed to help high school students

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<v Speaker 1>study and and excel and also to succeed in college.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh. And her interest in education goes well beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, this makes sense too, because Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Jobs was very much interested in education when he was

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the Next Computer back back when Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Jobs initially left Apple or was fired for Apple, depends

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<v Speaker 1>on your point of view. When he left, he founded

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<v Speaker 1>a new company called Next Computers, and it was really

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<v Speaker 1>for to make an educational computer, like a computer for

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<v Speaker 1>education systems for students. Uh. And then he was called

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<v Speaker 1>back to save Apple when it was on the brink

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<v Speaker 1>of bankruptcy and he uh, he never really lost his

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<v Speaker 1>his passion for education, but he definitely had a lot

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 1>more on his play at that point. Well. She has

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated much of her life to working on ways to

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<v Speaker 1>improve education and to give students tools that they could

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<v Speaker 1>use to improve themselves. And she also co founded tera Vera,

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>which is a natural foods company. She served on the

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<v Speaker 1>board of directors for a couple of other companies like Achieva,

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.440
<v Speaker 1>which is a company that makes study tools for students.

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<v Speaker 1>Again and um, she was appointed in twenty ten to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the White House Council for Community Solutions.

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:58.720
<v Speaker 1>She was appointed by President Barack Obama himself. Um and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She received an NBA for Stanford and n and married

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Jobs that same year and they had three kids together. Yeah. Right. Lately,

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<v Speaker 1>she's been really into promoting the Dream Act, which is

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act. It's

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<v Speaker 1>failed to pass through Congress a couple of times now,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would give undocumented US citizens, undocumented US citizens,

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<v Speaker 1>undocumented US youth a chance to gain citizenship by um

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 1>either joining the armed services or going to college. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of being that these are people who are

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<v Speaker 1>going to uh to contribute positively to society, and therefore

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:39.719
<v Speaker 1>society should extend to them the opportunity, right, especially if

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>they came here before they were fifteen. And you know

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that's because that's not at that point, that's not their fault,

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<v Speaker 1>so right, and beyond that, just the idea of for

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<v Speaker 1>the United States to succeed, we have to encourage uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, excellence, and so you know, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>way of doing it. Yeah, it's really interesting. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's our first batch of five. Uh. Let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break to thank our sponsor. All right, let's get

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>back to talking about some of these uh, these really

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>influential billionaires in technology. So at number ten, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a Zeem PMG who is worth about eleven point two

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars and he's an Indian businessman who's the chairman

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of white Pro Limited, which is one of those companies

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that started doing one thing and then dramatically changed its focus.

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know currently they do they work with outsourcing. Yes,

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it started out making vegetable oil. Vegetable oil, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a jump. Yeah, I started making vegetable oil for for

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<v Speaker 1>Indian food and then um, it eventually began to diversify.

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<v Speaker 1>It started making hydrogen atdive, fats, toilet trees, soaps, lighting products, hydraulics.

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>It's it is. It is still diversifying right now. It's well,

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<v Speaker 1>the the entire outsourcing industry is getting pretty tough right now,

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and so they're they just spun off its consumer products

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>arm and two why Pro Enterprises and bought a skincare

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>firm in December. Yeah, so this is um. This is

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>one of those things where if you were to have

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the you've heard of the elevator's speech right when you

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you are in an elevator with someone else and they

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.239
<v Speaker 1>asked you what you do, you have to have like

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<v Speaker 1>a way of summing up what you do in just

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen seconds that that explains accurately what you do.

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I bet this guy has a hard time doing that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since he's considered Asia's most generous person. He has

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<v Speaker 1>donated a two point three billion and shares a hy

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<v Speaker 1>pro to his educational foundation in February after signing that

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that Buffett giving pledge Buffet slash somebody someone who could

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it be? And that was on top of two billion

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>dollars that he had already donated. So again a very

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>generous philanthropist. Uh. And he actually holds a degree in

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>electrical engineering from Stanford University. UM. And he's married to

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Yasmine prim g and they have two children. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's move on to number nine. Now, this is

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting, number nine. This is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>has been on this list several times and hash seeing

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>his his ranking changed pretty dramatically year over year. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We expect to see that happen a lot now because

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the company he founded had an initial public offering last

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<v Speaker 1>year back in two thousand twelve, and his personal value

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>hinges directly upon the stock price of his company. We are,

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of course, talking about Mark Zuckerberg, founder of Facebook. Yes,

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>he is worth a net thirteen point three billion. He

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>is also only twenty eight years old, which somehow had

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>escaped me up until I was researching this article, and

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that was that was what it hurts it really, it

0:25:55.040 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>really does. Yeah. I am nearly a decade older than

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Zuckerberg and I haven't seen my first billion yet. But

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>then I haven't founded a company that has over one

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:12.360
<v Speaker 1>billion active users either, so I can't really complain, I guess. Yeah, yeah,

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you haven't been working quite as hard. Yeah. Yeah. Facebook

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>when public last May at a thirty eight dollars per

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>share and had fallen to under twenty by August. It's

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it's rebounded about thirty according to Forbes. Since then. Um yeah,

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>this is this was one of those you may remember,

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Chris and I did a podcast all about Facebook going

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>public and the issues that surrounded it, and part of

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that was that, um, there was there was a scandal,

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>something of a scandal anyway, that when the the company,

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, when the actual public offering happened, that Facebook

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>had told some of its larger shareholders who would have

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>started off right at the very beginning, that the company

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 1>was going to be worth less than what they had

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>projected earlier in the year, and that that would in

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>turn affect the stock price. But the actual stock price

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 1>itself the starting stock price didn't change, Okay, so uh

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>so it's like saying that, you know, this five dollar uh,

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>this five dollar thing you bought, turns out it's really

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>worth more like three dollars fifty cents, but they don't

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you that, and you go and spend the five

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars and then you go around to you turn around,

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>you decide you don't want you turn around to sell

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it to someone else, but you can only get three

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 1>dollars and fifty cents for it. Um. It's an oversimplified

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>way of saying what happened, but that's it's that's essentially

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>what happened. And some people or some really some financial

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>institutions knew about this and some didn't, and that caused

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:37.199
<v Speaker 1>a bit of the scandal. Technically, nothing was illegal, but

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>some people say that it may have been kind of underhand,

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, so, uh you know that that was a

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>bit of a black eye. And also again because the

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>stock price took a hit, Zuckerberg's personal net wealth took

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a hit. Yeah, but like eight point one billion dollars, Yeah,

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a lot of money. He attended Harvard College,

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>but he did not finish matriculating. He dropped out. Um,

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>he created Uh, you may remember we've talked about this

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 1>in the past. He created an application called facemash, which

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>allowed people to vote on the attractiveness of their fellow

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>students and are right, yeah, I remember that from from

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the social network more than anything else. Um, yeah, you know,

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was just if you could, you could

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>call it tacky, but we've seen plenty more of those

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>sort of things pop up, mostly from people who voluntarily

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>share their image. Face mash was kind of similar to that.

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>But then he launched Facebook in two thousand and four

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>while he was a student at Harvard, and it dropped

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>out to focus primarily upon Facebook, and it got kind

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a little popular hit you know again one billion users,

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>so that was pretty exciting. He also is one of

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the people who has signed this giving pledge that we

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>talked about that Buffett and uh came up with, And

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>so he's probably that pledge, by the way, states that

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the people who signed it are promising essentially to give

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>away at least half of their wealth before the pass right.

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's he's also um Glass Doors top employee

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>rated CEO. Oh okay, yeah, he also I remember back

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>when he was known as the guy who would only

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>eat what he could kill. I don't know, did you

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>ever read that or hear about that? I heard, I

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>heard a crazy internet rumor about it, but I don't

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>think that I saw it on a reputable story. So

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I heard I heard about on so many tech podcasts

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>back when that that kind of news story broke. But

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>then in he posted on his Facebook profile that he

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>is now a vegetarian. So maybe he's a really bad

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>hunter and he can only catch cucumbers. I think only

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>carets would be about my speed personally, Mrs Zuckerberg, I'm

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>just joshing, Please don't hunt me. Um. He got married

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in to Priscilla Chan and uh so, yeah he's Um.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>He's doing pretty well for himself. Not too bad that

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>despite that one point year old and ranked number nine

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and tech Building well last year he was six, So

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>really he should he should feel bad. He's bad, and

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>he should feel bad right, exactly, just like I do

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>every day. Number eight. Paul Allen. Allen worth that he's

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the co founders of Microsoft, the other one

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>being well, you know anyway, So he co founded Microsoft.

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>He made a lot of his current wealth in real estate. Yeah,

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Vulcan real Estate. It's the name of his company, Vulcan Incorporate, Yeah,

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>which also manages his philanthropic efforts, because, like several the

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>other billionaires on this list, he is a philanthropist. He

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>is also another dropout. He went to Washington State University

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>but dropped out after two years to start working in

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Honeywell in Boston. Um And he owns a couple of

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>sports teams, right, yeah, the Seattle Seahawks and the Portland's Trailblazers. Yeah,

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a football game in our football game

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>football team and the basketball. I'm not big on the

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>sports as it turns out. Yeah, yeah, we neither of us.

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I think are really really only to two sports I

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>follow in either of them are football or basketball. Just

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>baseball and hockey. And I don't follow hockey anymore because

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say pro wrestling sport that sports entertainment. Okay, alright,

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, Paul Ellen lately has been selling off a

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of his shares with Microsoft and starting to um

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>invest and diversify in a bunch of other stuff. And

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>he's he's also he lost his mother recently to Alzheimer's

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and related complications and has been UM really active in

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>brain research. Um donated five hundred million to the Allen

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Institute for Brain Science. Yeah, he's He's made some substantial

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>contributions financial contributions to lots of different nonprofit organizations. Um.

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>He also just another here's a little trivia for you.

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>When he took the S A T S he got

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>a perfect score, perfect scoring math. That was back in

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>both sides. I have heard about the math, but I

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>hadn't heard about Yeah back when the s S went

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>up to sixteen. Yeah, that was by the way, back

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>back in then. That's how it was when I took

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to so back in the day, kids, was the top

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>score you could make and you could not You couldn't

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>fudge that like that was a perfect score. You know,

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>because there are versions of the S A T since

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>then where you could quote unquote hit a perfect score

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>even if you didn't answer all the questions. Um. Also,

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>there was no essay back then. It's just math and

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the math and the words things English. That's it, those

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>word things that we do. Yeah, we do them anyway.

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>He made a perfect score on that. So, yes, smart guy. UM.

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>He never never married. He is he's a bachelor he's had,

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>uh had just the only bachelor I think that we

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>have on this list. Is there a call I might

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>be wrong about that. We'll find out when we get

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>towards the very bottle him. But um, yeah, never married

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>number seven. Interesting guy. Uh, this is a guy that

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I've seen in action on stage in person, and he

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>is a force to be reckoned with. We're talking about

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft. So we just and chairman. Yes,

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>we just went from the one of the co founders

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of Microsoft to the current CEO. He's worth a net

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>fifteen point two billion. He was born in Detroit and uh.

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>He also went to Harvard University, but he finished Uh

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>he like Zuckerberg, he earned a degree in mathematics and

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>one in economics. UM. And he met he met one

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of the the other co founder of Microsoft, Bill Gates.

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>He met him back in college, right, yeah, yeah, he

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>he had he had started going to Stanford for a

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>graduate degree. Um, and that was about when Bill Gates

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, Hey, do you want to come work on

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>this crazy project? And he was like yeah, sure yeah.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So Bill Gates and Paul Allen had founded a Microsoft

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. They invite the bomber to come and

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>work for Microsoft. He drops out of grad school at

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Stanford and he becomes the thirty employee of Microsoft and

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>was a business manager. His salary was about fifty thou

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year when he first started, and he had

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>also received a percentage of ownership in Microsoft. Uh and

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 1>so when it went public, he held about eight percent

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>of the company. And since since that time, he sold

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>some of that stock off about a little bit about

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>around half of it, a little less than half um

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and became the executive vice president of sales and Support.

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Then shortly thereafter he became the president of Microsoft. And

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>then when Bill Gates decided to resign to step down

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>as CEO, he became. Yeah, so he's he's been he's

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>been working there for a total of thirty three years

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's been CEO for thirteen. Um. He's he's actually

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a contentious CEO right now. He

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>only has a forty seven percent approval rating by the

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>employees over at Microsoft, according to glass Door. And um, yeah,

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the the Microsoft stock has been down, it's down like

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>like one point three two over last year or over

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>the past five years, with a seven percent drops it's

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>last year. Yeah, there's been There have been several uh

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:16.439
<v Speaker 1>critical reports about Steve Bomber's performance as CEO and whether

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>or not the company's on the right track. Uh. And

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you know there are people who point out products like

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Windows Vista or Windows eight and saying, you know that

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>this is an indication that perhaps there needs to be

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>someone else leading the way. Um. And also the mobile

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>performance of Windows versus Apple, and that they said that

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>the Microsoft didn't move on that fast enough and they

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>weren't innovators, they were followers. There are some areas of

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft that I think you can say pretty strongly are

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>are are doing really well. One of them is something

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that Lauren and I both enjoy, which is the Xbox

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>as console. Um. But you know, there's definitely been a

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of criticism. Uh. Also there's the famous if if

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Chris were here, he would demand that I do this.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>There was the famous presentation where Steve Bomber got up

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>on stage and started chanting developers, developers, developers, developers, developers

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.439
<v Speaker 1>and clapping his hands and moving around like like well,

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>like a crazy person. There's no easy way of saying this.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>If you've not seen the video, the famous Steve Bomber developers, developers,

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>developers video. Go to YouTube and do a search. You

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>really just have to search for the word developers and

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>it looks gonna pop up, trust me. So he he's

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>an interesting guy. He married Connie Snyder in nineteen and

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.720
<v Speaker 1>they have three kids. Uh. And he's only the second

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>person ever in the United States anyway, to become a

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>billionaire due to stock options he received as an employee

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>of a corporation where he was neither the founder nor

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the relative of a founder. So the very first person

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>was Roberto Goizetta of Coca Cola. He is he is

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 1>also and this is going to come back in a minute,

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>leading a group of investors that's trying to buy the

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento Kings, which is a which is a basketball team. Um,

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and moved them to Seattle, right, So I've heard of basketball.

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. So yeah, interesting guy. And you know, again,

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of debate about his performance, about his

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:17.959
<v Speaker 1>management style. UM. And I'll be curious to see, like

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>the next over the next five years, what happens over

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>in Microsoft. It's it's one of those things where even

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I have some years said I'm surprised that the shareholders

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>haven't made But you know, at the same time, uh,

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Balmber's had decades of experience at that company.

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>So and you know, I'm not a business person, so

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>for me, for me, it's all like you know, oh, well,

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I could easily see that someone else needs to be

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 1>right right, It's easy for us to sit back here

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and go like, wow, why are you doing? And then

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>but if you were to put me in charge of

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that company, we'd be bankrupt in two days, you know.

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>All right? Moving on to number six, Jonathan liquid fied

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>all of our shares to kid cats himself off in

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the back off butterfinger actually, but yes, yeah, that's that's

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>not a bad guest. I'm sure will be at least

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a few kit kats. Oh good times, all right. Number

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>six is uh is the co founder of another company

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>or a founder of another company. Michael Dell worth a

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>net fifteen point three billion. Dude, He needed lots of

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>delves there. He's the founder and CEO of Dell Incorporated,

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Dell Computers. So that was one of those companies that

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>made personal computers a viable business, right, this was they

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>founded it? Yeah, yeah, it was as while he was

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>attending the University of Texas at Austin, which he dropped

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 1>out of. He's another dropout, ye, and became the youngest

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 1>CEO to have his company ranked in Fortune's Top five corporations.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>He was only twenty seven at the time that that happened.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Uh so, you know, again, pretty amazing and and uh

0:38:56.200 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>very determined. He became interested in investments when he was

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>still a teenager, Like he would take part time jobs,

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and instead of just you know, putting the money away

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>or or spending it on something frivolous, he was actually

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.919
<v Speaker 1>investing in things like precious metals and stocks as a team.

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>That's that would probably be why he's worth fifteen point

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>three billion and I'm worth a negative. And I also,

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I also read an interesting story. I all know if

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>this is true or not. And I'm I'm paraphrasing because

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't write this down on my notes, but I

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>wrote a story that he had discovered, um like, he

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.879
<v Speaker 1>had essentially was what amounted to a paper route where

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it was really him selling newspapers, selling newspaper subscriptions. Okay,

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>so he's selling newspaper subscription He's really more of a

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>salesperson for a newspaper and he noticed a trend, and

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>this is something that he got really good at. It

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>is is UH analyzing systems and seeing how best to

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>work within a system or to manipulate that system, not

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>in a bad way, but just the most advantageous way.

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>He started to notice that people who were moving into

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the city were more likely to subscribe to a newspaper

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>as part of establishing their new home, and so he

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>began to target people he had, like he would get

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>records showing where houses had just been bought, and he

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>would target those as his as his places to sell papers.

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:18.879
<v Speaker 1>So he was I think in college at this time,

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it was actually I think it was high

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>school at this time, and if I'm not mistaken, he

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>made something like eighteen thousand dollars doing this, which was

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>more than what his teacher was making. Yeah. So so

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he was putting that kind of brain power to use

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>when he was in the university and he began to

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>realize that. He started to to offer to build and

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>sell PCs to other students and noticed that this was

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a viable way of making money, and so he became

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>he started a company called PCs Limited that would eventually

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>become del incorporated. UH He married Susan Lynn Lieberman in

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine and they have four children together. And they

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 1>also established the Michael and Susan Dell Foundation, which a

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>philanthropic organization that focuses primarily on child health and family

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>economic stability. They are committed to donating a hundred million

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 1>a year to that. UM. Dell meanwhile, is not doing

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily well these days there. Um uh, their stock is

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 1>done I think from as a February from last year,

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and um, Michael Dell has announced that he wants to

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>take Dell private and is trying to strike an agreement

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>with the shareholders right now, who are not really excited

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.959
<v Speaker 1>about the deal. Yeah. He his plan was to buy

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>back all those shares make it a private company again,

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 1>so essentially reversing the I p O. Yeah, for point

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 1>four billion, which the shareholders are going like, that's what. Yeah,

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>they're saying that's way too that's that's that's undervaluing the company,

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>is their argument, whereas his argument is, if we keep

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>going the way we're going, this company is going to

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 1>be worthless. So um, it'll be interesting to see how

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that works out, because you know, it's one of those

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>there are times when a company goes public, where you

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>realize further down the road that that was that was

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>not a good deal, because again you have to answer

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 1>or to shareholders. Sometimes that's a great thing. Sometimes it's

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly what a company needs to succeed. Other times, like

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>in this case, you can tell that maybe that was

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the you know, maybe it was the right decision at

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the time, but it's no longer. Yeah, yeah, it's it's

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>at this point, you know, it's it's computer industry needs

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to be nimble, and dealing with shareholders is never really

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>a nimble. It's pretty hard to reverse that decision once

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it happens, too, But we'll see if that pans out. Well,

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>we're about to go into our top five. Before we do,

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.879
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to take a quick moment to thank our

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>other sponsor. So we're getting into the top five here,

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Number five is another person from Schmoogle Google. We can

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>say the name now, it's not I kind of I

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of can't can't help myself at this point, we're

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about Sarah A. Brenn, who was one of the

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>co founders of Google. Yes, he is worth a net

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty two point eight billion and he's the director of

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Special Projects at Google, which means that he so oversees

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the super awesome, cool ridiculous stuff like the autonomous cars,

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Google glass, yeah, things, things like that kind of stuff

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>where you know, we've heard rumor that Google might have

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>a smart watch in the works that could have an

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>augmented reality application included in this. UM I I would

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>imagine that falls under his jurisdiction and as a special project.

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty clear that Sarah a Brand wants to

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>become a cyborg and rule us all. Uh. He he's

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a smart, smart guy. His parents were both from Moscow

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 1>and right then they moved the family to America when

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 1>he was six, yes, six years old. His father was

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a mathematics professor at the University of Moscow and his

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>mother ended up being a researcher for NASA. Sorry, sorry

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I cut off here. You know, it's just gonna be

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be smart. But you d smartified me. That's fine.

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.439
<v Speaker 1>The listeners wish they could do it all the time. Yeah,

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>But so the point being that his parents wicked smart,

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:11.399
<v Speaker 1>like you know, already, mathematicians, researchers, really smart people. Um

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>some of the people on this list we've talked about

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.399
<v Speaker 1>our folks who you know, they came from maybe not

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, humble beginnings, but not there the parents were

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily normal people more or lest. Yeah, yeah, I'm

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>not gonna. I'm not gonna. I mean, you know, I

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.760
<v Speaker 1>personally don't have any parents who have worked for NASSA,

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>so I'm a little bit impressed when I hear about

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Neither of my parents have worked

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.959
<v Speaker 1>for NASA either. Um. But yeah. When he was six,

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the family immigrated to the United States. He received degrees

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in mathematics and computer science at the University of Maryland,

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and then he went to go do some graduate study

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>research over at the at Stanford University. He wanted to

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>eventually get a PhD Uh. He's still working towards that.

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>His studies are on indefinite hold right now, so technically

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't dropped out of grad school right in Stanford.

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't really want to go get in the boot, I

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>don't think. Yeah, but I mean it all depends. Like

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.439
<v Speaker 1>the Stanford's already got that that record of other people

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>who said, can I get a deferment and they said no,

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:10.839
<v Speaker 1>And that's fine. I'm going to become a billionaire. That's

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 1>happened a few times. But uh, but so he and

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>when I had became a billionaire. But maybe maybe one

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>day he'll end up finishing that work and earning his PhD.

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>He he's only thirty nine, so he's got a minute. Yeah,

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>he's got a little while. He also, while at Stanford,

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>met the other co founder of Google, Larry Page, and

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:32.280
<v Speaker 1>not that first meeting. Supposedly, Paige and Bren were both, um,

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>let's call them smart Alex. Okay, so they're both smart Alex.

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>They're both a little snarky, and apparently that snarky and

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 1>snarky when they first met, kind of sparks flew like

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>things were not but it wasn't necessarily a friendly kind

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.280
<v Speaker 1>of snark. Yes, supposedly they did not totally get along

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>upon first meeting, but they ended up spending a lot

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of time together because they were working on the same

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>research project called back rub, which was this project to

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>help index the up They were talking about how a

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.240
<v Speaker 1>link on a web page is kind of like a site,

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like a c i T. E. Site, not sitation excitation exactly,

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and that if you were to index all of these

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you could easily navigate around the web, so that was

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the basis of BackRub, which eventually became Google. And and

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this had been pages idea at first, I believe, and

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>he kind of needed somebody with with a stronger computer

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>background and mathematical skill. Yes, so Brent came on. Brent

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>had already been at Stanford for a while, and in fact,

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 1>originally Brent had shown Page around for the graduate program.

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>That's time when they first met, and then he ended

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 1>up working on pages project. And as they worked together

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>they became they became buddy buddy. They got past that

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>initial he's kind of a jerk. That guy's kind of

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a jerk. Uh. And in two thousand seven, Sarah Gey

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Brenn married Anne wagis Ki. Together they have two kids

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and um. And he's also done a lot of philanthropthropic

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>work himself directly actually for Google dot org, which is

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the philanthropic arm of Google. And it's a division that

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>looks at lots of different problems, including ways of creating

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>clean energy, reducing environmental impact in general, battling climate change.

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>So he's dedicated a lot of his his time and

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 1>efforts towards these sort of projects too. It's pretty heavy stuff, right,

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>which then leads us nicely into number four, which is

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Larry bag Change. So the other half of the Google

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>co founder duo's He's worth a net twin ye, so

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 1>point two billion more than h than Sarage. So I'm

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>sure they lord it over each other whenever they're fortunate,

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they go to when they go to the Billionaire Club

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and they play play monopoly with real cities. Uh. I

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>was gonna make a joke, but I'm gonna stop on

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that one. So anyway, Uh, he's actually been the acting

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>He's been the CEO for Google since April eleven, so

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Eric Schmidt, of course was the former CEO. When Schmidt

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>stepped down, they were talking about who was going to

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>be the next CEO. Was there going to be an

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 1>interim CEO? Would they pick someone from outside the company,

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 1>But Larry Page ended up taking that role. And uh,

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>he's originally from Michigan. His parents were both computer science

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>professors at Michigan State University, so again Larry Page grew

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 1>up in a household that was already familiar with and

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 1>interested in the computers, so he picked right up on that. Uh.

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>He attended the University of Michigan and earned a degree

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>in computer engineering and then he went to Stanford and

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>earned a master's degree in computer science. That's, of course

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>we just mentioned where he met Sarah gay Brinn and

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>they started working on the BackRub project. UM. He's also

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>an investor in a company that we talked about in

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a recent episode of Tech Stuff, Tesla Teslamotors. Ye have

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Tesla Motors. Um I found both him and Aswer I think, okay,

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I believe I knew that page was um and he

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 1>married Lucinda Southworth in two thousand seven and they have

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>one child together. And um Google is doing incredibly well.

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>There's Stacros, which earned page four billion personally, So don't

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:22.879
<v Speaker 1>don't knock you right up the list pretty quickly. Yeah,

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 1>he's He's also in the in the top twenty of

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Forbes businesses overall. UM billionaire, right, because this is this

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.280
<v Speaker 1>is specifically the list we're doing is just the tech folks.

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>But obviously there are people who work in their businesses

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>other than technology. I've found one or two. I guess

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I was unaware of this until I just happened to

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>read the wrong link on a while I was researching,

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and my heart shrunk three sizes that day.

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Sad story Number three. Moving on Jeff Bezos, worth a

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 1>net five point two billion, and he of course is

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the founder of Amazon. Yeah, and we've talked about Bezos

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit when we did our our Amazon two

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 1>part two part. Keep talking about doing the third part,

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 1>but we keep putting it off because we're we think

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 1>after covering Amazon so thoroughly that we didn't want to

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to turn tech stuff into the Amazon podcast.

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 1>But we have to do it for a little while

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:23.320
<v Speaker 1>because he's number three on the list. Um, so he

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he his mom ended up, uh, you know,

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>he remarried, divorcing his father and then remarrying. Uh, and

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 1>she married Mike Bezos, and uh, Jeff decided he essentially

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>took his last name from his adoptive father. Um, he's

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 1>very very close with him. He considers him his real dad.

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.799
<v Speaker 1>That's his real dad, because he was there to raise him.

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>And so he his maternal grandfather worked for DARPA on

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>space technology and missile defense technology, and he was a

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>very instrumental figure in early life. On a calm, Jeff, Jeff, Well,

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:05.839
<v Speaker 1>you guys are so I'm so tight. Yeah, I've ordered

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.319
<v Speaker 1>three day It's Jeff this and Jeff that I ordered

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 1>so many things from his site, you would think he

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>would know me by name. At this point, he at

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:15.840
<v Speaker 1>least knows my address. So he graduated with a degree

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:20.399
<v Speaker 1>in electrical engineering and computer science from Princeton. He met

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 1>his wife, mckensey Bezos while they were both working at

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>a hedge fund company called D. E. Shaw. And while

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>he was working there, he was working on some database

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>projects and that's when he got the idea of you

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:36.280
<v Speaker 1>could create a website that could become an online retail

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>space for books, which is exactly what Amazon dot Com

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>was originally. When it first started, it was just about

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the books books only. Yeah, they shipped their first one um,

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:49.880
<v Speaker 1>but had expanded so much that they went public in

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:52.800
<v Speaker 1>h didn't take long at all. So again, this is

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>one of those companies that existed before the dot com

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 1>bubble burst and uh and really quite well through it.

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>They didn't they didn't make a profit for a long time. No,

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:04.359
<v Speaker 1>they weren't. Their revenues were not profitable, but they were

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 1>growing quite a bit. And and the reason that they

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>weren't profitable was was not because they were not doing well,

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.320
<v Speaker 1>but because they kept you know, they were growing so

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>quickly and expanding so quickly into so many new distribution

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>centers and so many new areas. The costs were higher

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>than what they were bringing in, but they were Their

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:25.399
<v Speaker 1>revenues were increasing year over year, so there was lots

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of growth. There just wasn't a lot of of actual

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 1>profit for the first few years. But it did start

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to turn profit and then didn't stop. Yeah, yeah, it's

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>not a problem anymore. They their stock last year, earning

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Bezos personally six yea, and he was in He was

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>named Time Magazines Person of the Year because that the

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Amazon had become so influential even back then in ninety

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>nine before again the dot com bubble went Carr pluey.

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's done quite well for himself. He's number

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>three on the list, which leads us to number two.

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Mr Larry Ellison, one of the more controversial figures from

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>technology where worth worth the net billion controversy or now

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 1>he is. He is America's third richest man. In fact, Yeah,

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of interesting. We went from twenty five point

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 1>two billion with Bezos to forty three billion with Larry Ellison.

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 1>He of course, is a co founder of the Oracle Corporation.

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 1>UM and uh, he's. He's made quite a name for

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 1>himself for multiple reasons. One is that again he's the

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:40.040
<v Speaker 1>guy who sets his yacht against the fellow we mentioned

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the podcast Great Right. He's he's also removed

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to be exploring a deal to purchase the Sacramento Kings

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 1>to prevent them from being moved to Seattle, so he's

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.800
<v Speaker 1>in direct conflict with two of the people on our list.

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>He also he's he's bought some pretty famous places, like

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>an island of Hawaii, Lennai, of one of the Hawaiian islands.

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a hundred and forty one square mile island. He

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>owns pretty much all of it, including two resorts that

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 1>are on the island. Um, you know, he just dropped

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 1>five hundred million on It's not not a big deal.

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Half a billion dollars buying Hawaiian island. He also owns

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:23.319
<v Speaker 1>a one million dollar home in Woodside, California. He owned

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 1>several properties in Malibu. Apparently one of those properties in

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Malibu has a one million dollar entertainment system that uses

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 1>an empty swimming pool as a sub bliffer. That is

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the best thing I've ever heard. So if Az you're

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 1>in Malibu and you think there's an earthquake, make sure

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that Ellison's not having a house Parker starting. Yeah. Yeah.

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>If he's dropping some mad beats, that might be what

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling instead. He's another college dropout, not from both

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 1>in the University of Chicago and the University of Illinois

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>at Urbana Champagne. Yeah yeah he um. He believes in

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>doing it wholeheartedly in multip full universities. UM. His adoptive

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:07.879
<v Speaker 1>father actually assumed the name Ellison to commemorate the fact

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that he came to America and passed through Ellis Island.

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 1>So Ellison Ellison is from that. UM. He worked at

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 1>a few companies in California when he was in his twenties,

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and he designed a database for a little organization called

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the c I A UH, and that database was called Oracle,

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's when he got the idea to found a

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:35.759
<v Speaker 1>software company. It was originally called software Development Laboratories, not laboratories, um,

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 1>which is how I usually say it, and that's what

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 1>eventually became Oracle. UH. This is again enterprise software. So

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the Oracles one of those names that I think like Oracle,

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Sun Microsystems like these are these are big names that

0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>people are familiar with, even IBM to some extent, they're

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>familiar with, but they haven't necessarily used it in a

0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>personal person unless they work for a company that has

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:02.359
<v Speaker 1>these systems and they're in charge of him anyway. Um.

0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe he's been married and divorced four times, so

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he's had some issues in his personal life. Um. He's

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>also known as being a very outspoken and blunt person. Yes, yeah,

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I've I've heard that once or twice. He has signed

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 1>on to the to that Warren Beffett and our number

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 1>one number one is yet that's it's amazing. Yes, he's

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>thus far donated um million, mostly by Oracle Stock. Right. So, yeah,

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 1>so he's another one of the members of this this

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 1>elite club of billionaires who have signed the giving Pledge

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:43.879
<v Speaker 1>to to really try and make the world a better place.

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't criticize that at all. That's a phenomenal thing.

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why I would like to think that

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 1>if I were a billionaire, I would do the same thing.

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:52.440
<v Speaker 1>But of course I'm not in that position, so it's

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 1>really easy for me to say it. Right now, I'm

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that you would be a mad scientist and

0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 1>would be really busy doing mad, So you gotta at

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 1>least be a frustrated scientist if not outright mad. But

0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you can still you can, you can still participate in

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 1>have you sharity? Have you watched? If you watched the

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 1>forward thinking episode about our cities growing, you'll see me

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 1>deliver one of my megalomaniacal monologues. And I guess man

0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>scientists is pretty accurate, you know, based on that. So

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that's fair, all right. So that takes us up to

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>number one. And number one, of course is the the

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 1>other person along with Warren Buffett, who said let's do

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 1>this pledge, and that is of course Bill Gates, Yes,

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 1>um net sixties seven billion, yes, seven billion dollars, has

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of money um and he he only

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 1>retains about five percent ownership of Microsoft, so most most

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>of that wealth comes from investments that are in other

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>industries and things in bonds and stocks. He's invested in

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 1>other companies, He's founded other companies. UH. He was the

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 1>CEO of mike or Soft for many years. He stepped

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:03.920
<v Speaker 1>down in two thousand. Of course, Bomber became the CEO

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 1>at that time. UM he stayed on as the chairman

0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and chief Software Architect for a few more years. Uh.

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>A transition from full time to part time at Microsoft

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand six, and retired in two thousand eight.

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And I actually remember when you retired because I went

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:20.520
<v Speaker 1>to c E S when they were talking about the

0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>fact that Gates was going to retire. It was his

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 1>final keynote at c E S UM, and so they

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 1>presented this very cute video package that showed a typical

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 1>day of Gates. Yeah, and it was absolutely ridiculous. It

0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 1>was very clear that Bill Gates has a very healthy

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>sense of humor about himself. He seems to enjoy poking

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:45.960
<v Speaker 1>fun at his own reputation. Uh and um. And that's

0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 1>also clear. If you guys know where the phrase conquistadors

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they run tight, then you know he's a goofy guy.

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know about that, go to YouTube again.

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 1>After you've watched Steve Bomber screen about developers for a

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:06.760
<v Speaker 1>good thirty seconds, go and type in Jerry Seinfeld Bill Gates. Uh.

0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>There was a commercial that ran several years ago that

0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:12.440
<v Speaker 1>was really just to promote Microsoft. It wasn't any particular

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft product, just a Microsoft men and a half long

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was mostly about Jerry Seinfeld walking through the

0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:22.080
<v Speaker 1>mall and seeing Bill Gates getting fitted for new shoes

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and then having a bizarre, absurd conversation with him. I

0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>have somehow completely missed this. It was it only aired

0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a few times. But one of the things they talked

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 1>about the type of shoes. They talked about our conquistadors

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and they run tight, as you find out in the

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in the commercial. Chris and I would quote that all

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the time because we both really appreciated how goofy that

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:47.680
<v Speaker 1>commercial was. He was also once arrested in nineteen seventy

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 1>seven d traffic violation. So it is nineteen seven. Mug

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>shot is on the internet and it is the goofiest

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>looking thing you've ever seen. By the way, that mug

0:59:56.760 --> 1:00:00.959
<v Speaker 1>shot also appears in that contest door commercial herschell yeah.

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah. And like Jonathan said, he's only retained five

1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 1>percent of ownership and Microsoft, So most of the money

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that he is making right now, and which is he's

1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:15.320
<v Speaker 1>he made six billion in has been from investment in uh,

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, other stocks and bonds and etcetera. He uh,

1:00:18.560 --> 1:00:20.840
<v Speaker 1>when he went to college at Harvard and he of

1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 1>course dropped out uh and went to work with Paul

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Allen at Honeywell first, and then the two of them.

1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Actually he was still going to Harvard when he went

1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to work for Honeywell. He dropped out of Harvard when

1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Paul Allen said, Hey, we should get together and make

1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a company. And so Allen, essentially, according to what I read,

1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:44.000
<v Speaker 1>convinced Bill Gates to drop out and to co found Microsoft.

1:00:44.160 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 1>So if he had not dropped out, we might not

1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:49.080
<v Speaker 1>have ever had a Microsoft, and the world would be

1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a very different So he and Allen co founded this company.

1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Of course, it went on to amazing success, and he

1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 1>went on to great success both at company and a

1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:04.440
<v Speaker 1>part of from it. So he and his wife, Melinda

1:01:04.520 --> 1:01:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Gates uh founded the the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,

1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:13.480
<v Speaker 1>which has done an incredible amount of philanthropic work, a

1:01:13.600 --> 1:01:16.920
<v Speaker 1>lot in developing nations, really all concentrating on things like

1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:22.800
<v Speaker 1>access to clean water, healthcare, education forms Forbes lists and

1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:26.760
<v Speaker 1>is the world's most generous person. It's it's pretty phenomenal,

1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and of course he's still making boatloads of money. I

1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:33.919
<v Speaker 1>know that this foundation has received criticism because the way

1:01:34.080 --> 1:01:37.440
<v Speaker 1>that the foundation ends up funding the various projects it

1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:40.840
<v Speaker 1>works on is through investments, just like we've spoken about earlier,

1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes some people have said that there are times

1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:47.600
<v Speaker 1>where the foundation has invested in companies that are causing

1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:50.360
<v Speaker 1>some of the very problems that the foundation is trying

1:01:50.440 --> 1:01:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to So things like companies that through their operation contribute

1:01:57.040 --> 1:02:02.080
<v Speaker 1>to pollution and air quality, things like that, and if

1:02:02.160 --> 1:02:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that's in fact how they are funding the projects, then

1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that might be counterproductive. And they the Gates Foundation said

1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:14.560
<v Speaker 1>at one point that they were going to uh instill

1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a new policy where everything would be reviewed before it

1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:22.360
<v Speaker 1>would be funded, but then eventually apparently went back to look,

1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the MORESS really compresme, this is leading us to not

1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:29.280
<v Speaker 1>actually get money out to people, not quite not quite

1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:31.520
<v Speaker 1>so far as to say the ends justify the means.

1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:34.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's what the critics have said, right that that

1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:38.360
<v Speaker 1>was their position. But ultimately they have funded a lot

1:02:38.480 --> 1:02:41.280
<v Speaker 1>of charitable efforts to make the world a better place. Yeah,

1:02:41.720 --> 1:02:46.760
<v Speaker 1>they Bill and Milinda have personally given over billion. That's incredible.

1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And like we said, you know, Bill Gates was one

1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of the ones who founded this giving pledge idea uh

1:02:53.480 --> 1:02:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and there are a lot of people who have signed

1:02:54.880 --> 1:02:58.160
<v Speaker 1>onto it, not just the tech billionaires. We've mentioned um.

1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.800
<v Speaker 1>He also owns a one hundred twenty five million dollar

1:03:01.920 --> 1:03:04.760
<v Speaker 1>home on Lake Washington. Not actually on the lake. It's

1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:07.360
<v Speaker 1>actually just on the shore of the lake. It's should

1:03:07.480 --> 1:03:08.920
<v Speaker 1>should be on the lake, that would be come on

1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:12.000
<v Speaker 1>floating home. Technically it's underground, or most of it is.

1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:14.840
<v Speaker 1>We did a Chris and I did a great podcast

1:03:14.920 --> 1:03:18.000
<v Speaker 1>about Bill Gates's house, like a couple of years ago

1:03:18.560 --> 1:03:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and the place from what we could what we were

1:03:21.520 --> 1:03:24.480
<v Speaker 1>able to read, because you know, there's not not all

1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the details are available. But he didn't invite you over

1:03:27.560 --> 1:03:29.600
<v Speaker 1>when he found out that you were doing the episode. Yeah,

1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:34.320
<v Speaker 1>sadly that invitation has been lost in the never been written. Male. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's an incredible house. It's one of those places

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<v Speaker 1>where they incorporate a lot of environmental design in the

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<v Speaker 1>house itself to make it kind of a compliment to

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<v Speaker 1>the area, not just you know, not just a big

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<v Speaker 1>house that's sitting on a pretty day. It's part of

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty hill. Uh. They also incorporated a lot of technology,

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<v Speaker 1>including and I'm I'm assuming that he's upgraded this since then,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember one of the first systems I I

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<v Speaker 1>read about was an r F I D system where

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<v Speaker 1>you would get something that would have an r F

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<v Speaker 1>I D chip in it, and you could program the

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<v Speaker 1>chip to whatever specifications you like, so you could say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I like it when a room is seventy degrees,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like this kind of music, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of art, and as you moved through the house,

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<v Speaker 1>the house around. Yeah, so it's the idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>smart home. Now, you know, we're getting to the point

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<v Speaker 1>now where the r F I D is becoming less

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<v Speaker 1>and less necessary to achieve that. But back when the

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<v Speaker 1>sus is first being built, that's that was state of

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<v Speaker 1>the art. So yeah, I mean, pretty interesting guy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the father of three kids. Uh. Thought i'd go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and drop that on there. So yeah, it's he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's definitely done a lot uh in technology and and

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<v Speaker 1>again the world be a very different place without his contributions.

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<v Speaker 1>So about the contributions of all of these people, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I just thought one of their little interesting tidbits.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we talked about fifteen people, one third of the

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires we talked about dropped out of college. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>found this fascinating. Yeah, five five out of the top

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen billionaires in technology billionaires dropped out of college, and

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not saying that you shouldn't necessarily drop out

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<v Speaker 1>of school. And it's it's a great the first Star

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<v Speaker 1>is listening to tech stuff. Obviously you are congratulations. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't we don't know. We only teach, No, don't. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not saying you drop out of school. But what what

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking I was telling to Lauren before we

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<v Speaker 1>came into the studio, and I said, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think part of it is that when you are really smart,

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<v Speaker 1>like like these people are smart, Yes, this level of smart,

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<v Speaker 1>which is way over my head. When you're this smart

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<v Speaker 1>and you're this ambitious and you have this kind of vision,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just that you're smart, but that you

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<v Speaker 1>can you can apply that intelligence in a way that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to resonate with people and be valuable to people.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you are of this age so we're talking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of the college age, you know, in eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>funny fast somewhere around there. Uh, then you you also

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<v Speaker 1>are at an age where you can afford to take

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty big risks because you haven't necessarily got these

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<v Speaker 1>other things that you have to worry about, like a family,

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<v Speaker 1>your home or something like that you don't already have

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<v Speaker 1>large investments that you're going to you know, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to throw away if you if you risk

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<v Speaker 1>everything and lose. So you have you have it lots

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<v Speaker 1>of benefits. You've got a lot of energy, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this great idea, you've got the intelligence, you've got the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have a lot of stuff that would

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<v Speaker 1>prevent you from taking a big risk aside from this

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<v Speaker 1>pesky degree that you're pursuing. Right, yeah, that might be

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. But uh and and so we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>other people who realized that, you know, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a risk, like Elon Musk, where he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is this is something that might not work.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to be able to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>my studies if I need to. Um. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>get older, that that window becomes harder and harder to

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<v Speaker 1>justify jumping through. Right at my age, I'm a married man,

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<v Speaker 1>I own a home, I've got a lot of ties

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<v Speaker 1>here in Atlanta. It would be it would take a

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<v Speaker 1>lot for me to have to make a so um.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some benefit to to doing it the way

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<v Speaker 1>these guys have done it because they were in the

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<v Speaker 1>right time, the right position, with the right idea, but

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<v Speaker 1>most of us probably could benefit from finishing out the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of that college education. I hope you enjoyed that

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