1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: This is what happens for the fourth turning It's fifth 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: generation warfare. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran. 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic christ Is. 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 4: I stand in full support and will hardly agree with 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: the statements that President Trump has made over these last 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 4: few days with regards to the developments in Syria. My 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 4: own views and experiences have been shaped by my multiple 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 4: deployments and seeing firsthand the cost of war. It's one 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 4: of the many reasons why I appreciate Resident Trump's leadership 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: and his election, where he is fully committed, as he 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: has said over and over, to bring about an end 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: to wars, demonstrating peace through strength. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 5: A downfall of the Assad regime in Syria has raised 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 5: hopes that more information could come to light on the 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 5: where of US citizen Austin Tice TYSA marine veteran and 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 5: freelance journalist, disappeared over twelve years ago while reporting on 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 5: the Syrian Civil War. 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 6: After our jury cleared a marine veteran who placed a 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 6: chokehold that led to the death of Jordan Neelee on 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 6: the New York City subway, Daniel Penny was found not 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 6: guilty of criminally negligent homicide. 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 7: The fact that a person has expressed no remorse indicates 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 7: that there's a risk that it may happen again. And 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 7: if we do not want to unleash that level of violence, 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 7: then we should exert level of accountability to prevent that 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 7: from happening. 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: If you're on the American left tonight, here's my chart. 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 8: The good guys today, Daniel Penny, the bad guys, Luigi Mangioni. 30 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 9: It seems to me, how do you most starred for victims? 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what I see out there. 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 8: I know, I know, I want the world. 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: Manhattan prosecutors filing a murder charge against Luigi Mangioni for 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: last week's shooting of United Healthcare CEO. Brian Thompson, a 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: senior law enforcement official, confirming to NBC News that a 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: handwritten note saying, in part, these parasites had it coming 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: was recovered. 38 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, Unfortunately, 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: you know, because it's seriously I mean. 40 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 10: Execution. 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: Maybe not joy, but certainly not empathy. 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 8: Breaking overnight, US representative from Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Green, says 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 8: that a woman has died after getting into a car 44 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 8: wreck with a police officer who was responding to a 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 8: reported bomb threat at her house in Rome. 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: Ladies don't welcome award. Today's edition Human Events Daily. Here 47 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: we are live Washington, DC. Today is December tenth, twenty 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: twenty four. Anno Domini. So everybody's talking about Daniel Penny 49 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: and Luigi Mangioni, Daniel Penny and Luigi Manoni. For Daniel 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: Penny's case, people are saying, is this the system's fault? 51 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Why was he let off? Others are saying, like myself, 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: that he's a hero and he did what he had 53 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: to do to save lives, Whereas with the Legia Angionis, 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: other people are saying, oh, his supporters say, oh, he's 55 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: a hero, he did it. These people are parasites. 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: We agree. 57 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: You saw Taylor Renz there saying she felt joy that 58 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: a CEO business leader was murdered in the street of 59 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: man with a wife and children, Whereas others like myself say, this. 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Is the unraveling of law and order. 61 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: But let me let me step back, Let me step 62 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: back for a second. These are both symptoms of a 63 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: wider problem in America, and the wider problem in America 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: is this. We have a broken system of justice. We 65 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: have a law and order system in this country that's 66 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: absolutely in sham. And because our law and order system, 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: and it has been this way and it's been getting 68 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: worse for years, and because of that, you have people 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Penny who are forced into situations like this because 70 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Nealy never should have been on that train to 71 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: begin with. Just like how in the Kyle Rittenhouse situation, 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: the marauders and the rioters never should have been in Kenosha. 73 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: Now what's the situation with Luigi MANDIONI. Well, in that case, again, 74 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: here you've got a case where without law and order, 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: without a functioning justice system, people start to get ideas. 76 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: People start to think, maybe I can be a hero too. 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: Maybe I can be the one who listens to everything 78 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: that my professor's told me and everything that Hollywood tells 79 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: me about how we should eat the rich and how 80 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: we should take out these business leaders, and maybe I 81 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: can go on social media and I can be a 82 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: big star. And he certainly has gone viral and he's 83 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: gained more followers before they banned his accounts because he 84 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: took law and order into his own hands and his 85 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: own twisted, psychedelic, warped mind and thought that he could 86 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: be a hero. Well, in America with a functioning justice 87 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: system would not have this problem. And hopefully, as we 88 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: move into the Trump administration, hopefully as we move into 89 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: a country that has a serious justice department, serious FBI leader, 90 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: and so many others, that things like this will stop 91 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: simply happening again and again in the United States. 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But while there's so 128 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: much going on in the breaking news category, the law 129 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: and order section. Actually, what's what we see in Washington, DC? 130 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: That Trump's nominees are actually doing great. Pete Hegzeth is 131 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: having a fire week up there. He's going back and 132 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: back to back and meeting with senators now, Tulsi Gabbert 133 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: is meeting with senators. Cash Patel is meeting with senators. 134 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: Darren Beatty joins us Now to discuss this latest up 135 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: and the latest updates in President Trump's nomination confirmation battle. 136 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: Darren Dee grew with my assessment, does it look like 137 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: Pete and Tulsi and Cash are actually starting to get 138 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: a warmer reception than they were at first? 139 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 10: I think absolutely. 140 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 12: If you read the tea leaves, if you look at 141 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 12: the broader situation, if you look at how their meetings 142 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 12: with senators have been publicly represented, everything is positive. 143 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 10: So I think they'll all probably get through. 144 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 12: I would be pretty confident at this point they all 145 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 12: get through. I don't think the Senate is interesting, reinterested 146 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 12: in making. 147 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 10: A huge fuss over it. 148 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 12: So really I'm more optimistic about these three appointments than 149 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 12: I've ever been before. 150 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's fantastic I mean Pete hag Seth 151 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: talk about a transformative leader at the Department of Defense. 152 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody knows what needs to be 153 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: done to clear out the wokeness there to make it 154 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: effective fighting organization. Yet again, but one that had flown 155 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: under the radar for some time but is now starting 156 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: to get more scrutiny is Tulsi Gabbard. 157 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 3: And this is someone who, let's face it. 158 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: She is not a Okay, you know she I guess 159 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: she is a Republican, but her background, her roots, her 160 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: resume are all Democrat. This is someone who was the 161 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: former vice chair of the entire Democrat Party, now being 162 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: appointed to the Trump administration, and someone who also, by 163 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: the way, the intelligence community. 164 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,239 Speaker 3: Has spread just ludicrous lies about. 165 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: Smears about they call her in ASAD supporter, when all 166 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: she said, if I remember correctly, and has now been vindicated, 167 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: that if ASAD goes, that Jihadis will takeover. 168 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: And oh look, that's exactly what happened. So what are 169 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: some of. 170 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: The things Darren, you see that Tulsi could potentially be 171 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: able to do over there at D And. 172 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 12: I, well, I suppose in this case it was more 173 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 12: that the Jihadis ousted Asad, So that was definitely true, 174 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 12: as she was one of the early sort of heterodocs, 175 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 12: but perhaps more accurate than not voices when it came 176 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 12: to Syria and a lot of other critical issues, which, 177 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 12: of course you know, whenever there's a pretextual scandal about somebody, 178 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 12: the reality is always how much are they going to 179 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 12: actually challenge the system? 180 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 10: That's the determinative factor. And based on. 181 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 12: Tulsi's knowledge about certain things, including it perhaps especially foreign policy, 182 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 12: and her willingness to speak out on these things, that's 183 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 12: really why the intelligence community, the same community that bulld 184 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,359 Speaker 12: us Hunter Biden laptop was rushed, in, the same community 185 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 12: that launched Russiagate, the same community that's been really conspiring 186 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 12: against the American people from day one to subvert the 187 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 12: democratic process and Trump in particular. 188 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 10: This group is maybe not. 189 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 12: Entirely enthusiastic about policy, which I think should be her 190 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 12: proudest qualification. 191 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 10: For this office. 192 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 12: And the DNI office actually is an interesting one in that, 193 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 12: unlike the CIA, it doesn't control an enormous budget, it 194 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 12: doesn't control personnel, but in a formal sense, it does 195 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 12: sit on top of the intelligence hierarchy, and it could 196 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 12: be used most effectively in the context of declassification, for instance, 197 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 12: which could be a huge asset or at least tool 198 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 12: of leverage wielded by the Trump administration to make sure 199 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 12: that the intelligence community is on board and on agenda 200 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 12: I think wielded effectively, which I fully suspect Palsy will do. 201 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 12: This can be an absolutely critical position for which she 202 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 12: is almost uniquely qualified. 203 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's exactly right. 204 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: And it's a case where at the same time, she's 205 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: met with a number of senators that I think people 206 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: would put more in I guess your gop hawk territory, 207 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: people who are more interested in America's war footing, people 208 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: who have celebrated the ouster of Assad, who have celebrated 209 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: the takeover of Syria with this HTS Gihattish group that 210 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: nobody really knows anything about. And you know, I'm sure 211 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: even Erdowan and the CIA who funded them have no 212 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: real idea of what's going to happen when they take 213 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: over the country. Kind of like, oh, I don't know 214 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: when the Taliban took over Afghanistan, you know, just a 215 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Just another wonderful story in the 216 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: regime change. Regime change operation of the Middle East. But 217 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: when it really comes down to it, you're looking at people. 218 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: So here's what people don't understand exactly about the DOGE 219 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: and the way the DOGE process is working. And so 220 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm breaking news here or not, 221 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: but the way the DOGE process I've been told is 222 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: going to work is, yes, there will be the overall 223 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: set up with Elon Musk and the Veak Ramaswami and 224 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: a few others that are and potentially I think a 225 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: liaison who sits in the White House on a daily basis. 226 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: But also that each of the department heads, each of 227 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: the agency heads, and the cabinet members will have their 228 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: own DOGE office within their departments. So that means there's 229 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: going to be a d NI DOGE, there's going to 230 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: be a Pentagon DOGE, there's going to be a DOGE 231 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: office in basically. 232 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: All of these various agencies. 233 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: And so that's something where if you combine what Elon 234 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: Musk and Vivek have said, and predominantly what they've been talking. 235 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: About is bureaucracy. 236 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: But when you add that quotient to the intelligence communities 237 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: and the fact that oh, we have these eighteen intelligence agencies. 238 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: They're so important we need all eighteen of them, and 239 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: suddenly start thinking, do we really need all eighteen? It 240 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: just it just fills me with absolute gly Daron, it 241 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: really does. 242 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 12: Indeed, well, I have a recommendation for the DNI, doch 243 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 12: for Tulsi Gabbett. It's something to think about very seriously now. 244 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 12: As the audience may or may not know, the censorship 245 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 12: industry domestically is in retreat. And one of the latest 246 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 12: examples of this is the expected discontinuation of the Global 247 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 12: Engagement Center, which was sort of the nerve center of 248 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 12: censorship operations under the guise of fighting disinformation at the 249 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 12: State Department. That's on the chopping block. It's probably going 250 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 12: to expire now. What few people do know is that 251 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 12: there was a similar equivalent agency in terms of hierarchy 252 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 12: recently set up under the auspices of the DNI, so 253 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 12: that would be in Tulsi's purview, called the Foreign Malign 254 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 12: Influence Center. And to give you a sense of who 255 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 12: runs this now, her name is Jessica Brant. We have 256 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 12: a big piece coming out on her and basically of 257 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 12: Brookings Institutional lum every single report that she's done basically 258 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 12: has been some permutation of Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, and 259 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 12: Dan Bongino are amplifying Russian disinformation narratives. Pretty much ninety 260 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 12: five percent of her reporting has been some version of 261 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 12: that topic. Singling out those three obviously very influential pro 262 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 12: Trump voices. The funny thing about her career, and I 263 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 12: think it really does recapitulate what a joke this sensor 264 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 12: ship industry is at large. Is you go and you 265 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 12: look at her history, everything she's doing. And by the way, 266 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 12: this is funny thing. She doesn't brand herself as a 267 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 12: disinformation expert because that term, I think is already out 268 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 12: of favor. She brands herself, like certain people that we 269 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 12: know of, as an AI expert, which is hilarious because 270 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 12: all of her pieces are about attacking Tucker, Bongino, Charlie 271 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 12: Kirk over amplifying Russian disinformation, which is amazing. 272 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 10: But when you go back into her career, all of this. 273 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 12: Stops around twenty nineteen, before which every single thing she 274 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 12: did was to criticize President Trump for the travel ban. 275 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 12: So she's an obsessive in terms of travel ban, obsessive 276 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 12: in terms of massive migration who overnight seemingly becomes an 277 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 12: AI expert, which means in effect censoring people like Tucker 278 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 12: Carlson under the guise. 279 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 10: Of Russian disinformation. 280 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 12: That's the kind of person who runs the censorship office 281 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 12: within the DNI, which Tulsea Gabbert is about to take over. 282 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 10: So something for dose to consider. 283 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, this is fantas So I've talked to 284 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 1: Mike Ben's about some of this as well, and so 285 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: I want people to get in with their ideas. Does 286 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: it make seventeen seventy six of quan events dot com 287 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: does it make sense to shut these things down? Or 288 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: in some cases like SISA, should we want to talk 289 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: about them over? We got to talk about immediately after 290 00:17:38,480 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: the break Darren bed Jack Forsovie. Human Events Daily continues. 291 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 10: And I'm working long hours. I'm always listening to Human 292 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 10: Events with Jack Bosobic. 293 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: All right, jackisobc back live here. 294 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: Human Events Daily seventeen seventy six, Human Events dot Com 295 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six at Humanevents dot com. 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I went to heard 329 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: the latest article that she had written on Securing Democracy 330 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: a Strategy for US Diplomacy in the Age of Disinformation, 331 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: and then which which was like her you know, her 332 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: basic thing, the very next one, how Kremlin narratives about 333 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: Ukraine spread on US political podcast And I looked up 334 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: the names Jack Pasobic and Darren Beattie and guess what, 335 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: We're all over this thing. And the very first two 336 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: things she talks about for and specifically cites human events 337 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: daily were number one, the bio labs in Ukraine. And 338 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: she pointed out by the way that I played the 339 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: clip of Victorian Neulan talking about the the biochemical research 340 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: facilities that Ukraine has, that's Victoria. 341 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: Noulin admitting it, by the way. 342 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: And the second one was, of course the explosion of 343 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Nordstream two, which is just so it's a Kremlin narrative. 344 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: It's a Kremlin narrative that nord Stream too, would that 345 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: uh uh, well, that anyone, anyone would have would have 346 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: pushed this out. 347 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: It's amazing, this is amazing. 348 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 12: So there's going to be a much very comprehensive report 349 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 12: coming on revolver Don News about all of her reporting. 350 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 12: So just a little teaser there, but absolutely yes, one 351 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 12: of her reports was about nord Stream two. 352 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 10: And here's the amazing thing. 353 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 12: Just when you get into the details, it's almost kind 354 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 12: of we've seen this movie before. It's the same stick, 355 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 12: but it's so dumb that sometimes it's worth repeating. Because 356 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 12: she actually said, the only other time I heard this 357 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 12: was in a different context that I'm. 358 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 10: Sure you're aware of. 359 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 12: I won't say what it is, but you're aware of 360 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 12: someone actually saying that Russia blew up north Stream two. 361 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 12: And Jessica Brandt's position was anything that was it that 362 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 12: did not affirm that hypothesis was ipso facto Russian disinformation. 363 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 12: So anyone who didn't maintain the exceedingly implausible to the 364 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 12: point of absurd notion that Russia blew up its own 365 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 12: critical piece of infrastructure. Anyone who didn't maintain that utterly 366 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 12: and defensible and ridiculous line, which now, by the way, 367 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 12: all of the mainstream media ELF has abandoned up to 368 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 12: and including The New York Times. Anyone who didn't maintain 369 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 12: that was engaging in resting different disinformation, going from Tucker 370 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 12: Carlson to Bongino to Charlie Kirk and now even. 371 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: The official narrative, even the official narrative has gotten back 372 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: to the point that, okay, it probably they'll say Ukraine 373 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: or some Ukrainians or some unit operating out of Poland. Yeah, 374 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: by the way, I just have to read this quote 375 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: because it's so perfect. I guess this is me in 376 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I guess, just right after it happened. 377 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 13: And relatedly, several podcasters said that official denials made them more. 378 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: Likely to believe the alternative theories. 379 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: Quote never believe anything until it's been officially denied, argued 380 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: Pasobic on Human Events daily based absolutely based. I completely 381 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: saw with that guy, and I think everyone should listen 382 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: to that podcast every day. 383 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 10: Absolutely. 384 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 12: A couple other things about her, because again we've seen 385 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 12: versions of her, she's created the same lab as the 386 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 12: Brandy Sadrosney type. She's probably not as like mean and 387 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 12: cold as Zadrosney, but just as ridiculous. But the thing 388 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 12: that I thought was so amazing about her career, other 389 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 12: than branding herself as an AI expert, maybe she should 390 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 12: go to MIT and stand in front of a blackboard 391 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 12: if she's gonna call herself an AI expert, because that's 392 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 12: what she brands herself as. But if you date back 393 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 12: her work, literally ninety five percent of it is this 394 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 12: dumb like low IQ censorship, Russia stuff, and then come 395 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 12: twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, literally everything is about how Trump's 396 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 12: evil because of this travel band. So it just goes 397 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 12: to show you what a fake industry this actually is, 398 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 12: which brings up the very important question should you raise 399 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 12: before the break, which is there are all of these institutions, 400 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 12: the Global Engagement Center, the form Align Influence Center, there's 401 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 12: a lot of them spread throughout the bureaucracies Nodding, plus 402 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 12: the NGOs and all this, So what do we do 403 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 12: with it? Do we want to simply eliminate it? As 404 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 12: we're eliminating the GEC, or would it be a better 405 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 12: coach to commandeer, to repurpose, to reimagine, to reshape this 406 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 12: infrastructure to our own will and toward a free speech agenda. 407 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 10: I happen to. 408 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 12: Think that that is the correct approach. I somewhat lament 409 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 12: the expiration of the GEC, because while it is much 410 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 12: better than what it has been in its previous pernicious form, 411 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 12: imagine if the GEC were commandeered by somebody who thinks 412 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 12: along our lines, who repurposes it for a free speech orientation. 413 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 10: That could be very powerful. 414 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 12: And I think it's something to take very seriously when 415 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 12: viewing this kind of censorship architecture generally, that this can 416 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 12: and probably should be repurposed if somebody with the appropriate 417 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 12: energy and insight and knowledge and capability could be put 418 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 12: at the helm of these respective institutions. 419 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right, because you've got a situation 420 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: now where you can actually take that and spin it 421 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: back on itself. 422 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 3: Plus, by the way, and this is where Ben's came in. 423 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: Because of the nature of these organizations like SISSA, they 424 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: operate in this public private space. So the first thing 425 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: we've got to do, of course, is pull the funding 426 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: from from the public to the private. So get rid 427 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: of any of that then, and we called it. 428 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: We were talking about. 429 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: Severing the umbilical cord between the federal government and academia, 430 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: by the way, something I support completely across the board. Also, 431 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: we need to find out just how closely were these 432 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: organizations operating with elements of the federal government. 433 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: We need to also look at the receipts of Okay. 434 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: So they were listening to our podcasts and they made 435 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: some quotes and some reports. 436 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: Fine, not that big of a deal. 437 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: But then the question is did the federal government then 438 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: go and take that report and send it to Facebook, Twitter, 439 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: Instagram or any other of Google, YouTube and others and say, hey, 440 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: these are Kremlin narratives and we need to be de 441 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: ranking them. Here's a private report that was written, and 442 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: you can see where this all goes forward. This is 443 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: how the censorship industry actually works. So we need to 444 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: find out where the tentacles lead before we can actually 445 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: get this done. Now that by the said the same 446 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: token though, Darren, I guess if, as you say, if 447 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: true information were able to actually be supported by this 448 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: type of organization, wouldn't it make sense then to say, 449 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, reward people who were actually speaking the truth. 450 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 12: I would go even further, and I would say that 451 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 12: just in the same way as these organizations. Keep in 452 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 12: mind that GEK was primarily and really by its foundational 453 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 12: purpose given its positioned State Department supposed to be focused 454 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 12: for it outward communications, not domestic, and they're create, you know, 455 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 12: incubating civil society organizations across Europe and overseas to fulfill 456 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 12: various foreign policy objectives. 457 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 10: So I think there could. 458 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 12: Be a repurposing opportunity for these types of groups to 459 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 12: actually incubate a civil society architecture that is pro free 460 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 12: speech because you know, for instance, some organization like GEK, 461 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 12: there are some legitimate functions to we do need to 462 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 12: have some position of messaging in relation to overseas the 463 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 12: overseas domain. But what we don't have to do is 464 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 12: the groups that we're funding for legitimate national security or 465 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 12: foreign policy functions, we can make sure that their ancillary 466 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 12: activity or their other activity is very much in line 467 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 12: with America First and American values, rather than subverting the 468 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 12: First Amendment as. 469 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 10: Was the case before. 470 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 12: So there's a real opportunity to incubate an entire civil 471 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 12: society architecture that is not in promotion of this disinformation 472 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 12: censorship scam, but quite the contrary, is in promotion. 473 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 10: Of free speech objectives. 474 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 12: And so I think that's one of the several opportunities 475 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 12: that could be seized upon if again, the appropriate person 476 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 12: who's energetic, has the right vision, has the right knowledge, 477 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 12: were to take over these institutions. So I think that's 478 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 12: the most preferable outcome. Second most is just get rid 479 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 12: of them. The worst outcome is what we've had under Biden, 480 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 12: which is these were very much hostile and actuated against 481 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 12: the constitutional liberties of the American people. 482 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Well, I certainly should we should be punishing those that 483 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: are go against those liberties and rewarding those who support them. Darren, 484 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Where can people go to get this post? To find 485 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: out and tell us when it drops, and then also 486 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: to follow you and if there's anything else Revolver has 487 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: cooking up as we go into the new. 488 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 12: Year, Revolver dot News, we've got a big piece on 489 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 12: brand and a big piece that's a cautionary tale on 490 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 12: the Kids Online Safety Act, which I think could be 491 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 12: a censorship trojan horse. So something to look at very cautiously, 492 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 12: very carefully, so Revolver dot News. We're on the cutting 493 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 12: edge of all of this. Revolver dot News. 494 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: All right, Revolver dot News and meets, you're sending us 495 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: your email seventeen seventy six, Human Events dot Com. Right back, 496 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: ran Dusky joins nest huge piece on the MAGA coalition. 497 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 14: Say two, s. 498 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: Hey, Jack, where's Jack? 499 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 10: Where's Jack? Where is it Jack? I want to see you. 500 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 10: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do. 501 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 10: You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking 502 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 10: about the fake news and. 503 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 11: The band, but we have guys, and these are the 504 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 11: guys who are forgetting publishers. 505 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: All right, Jack, So we back live here Human Events Daily. 506 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: So massive victory for President Trump one month ago, and 507 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: so many people are focused on the transition. I know 508 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: we certainly are here that it's almost like we haven't 509 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: stepped back and really started analyzing not just the overall 510 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: arc of how President Trump won, but the specific groups 511 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: that were key to this victory. Groups by the way, 512 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: that hadn't voted in some cases for a Republican in 513 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: years or other cases ever. And Ryan Gerdusky has written 514 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: this incredible piece over at the American Conservative. It's a 515 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: long piece, but it's well worth your time because it 516 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: does go through the full story of the election, really 517 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: from about twenty twenty two early twenty twenty three to 518 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: the election itself, and walks through the ups and downs, 519 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: but specifically gets into that coalition of supporters that President 520 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Trump was able to put together, and then offers at 521 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: the end a sort of message to Republicans, and that 522 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: goes with the title a governing majority if you can 523 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: keep it playing off the old Ben Franklin quote, Ryan 524 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: Gerdusky joins us, Now, Ryan, do we have a governing majority? 525 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: We do. 526 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 9: I mean, for the very first time in two decades, 527 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 9: Republicans actually have a governing majorities. I mean that we're 528 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 9: not used to playing for you know, a minority of 529 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 9: the national votes. Republicans had it in the House, and 530 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 9: they had it in the presidential election, and they would 531 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 9: have had in the Senate if the states were a 532 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 9: little different or there was a national one where every 533 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 9: state was competitive in But that being said, I looked 534 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 9: back when writing this piece of the American Conservative magazine, 535 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 9: and thank you for reading it and talking about it. 536 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 9: I looked back at the last two years because in 537 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 9: the in the after glow of such a big election victory. 538 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 9: It's almost unfounding how much of a comeback this election 539 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 9: was two years ago, twenty months ago, oh, actually twenty 540 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 9: four months ago. 541 00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 5: Now. 542 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 9: Trump was in the worst place he was in since 543 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 9: twenty sixteen. I mean, things were not really going fantastic 544 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 9: for him, and he had a Nixonian style comeback, one 545 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 9: that you don't see in real life ever, and Nixon 546 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 9: is the only person within anyone's living memory that we've 547 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 9: seen such a comeback, and not only to defeat his 548 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 9: Republican primary opponents, but then to defeat two Democrats, which 549 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 9: is really what he did. I looked back and saw 550 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 9: one by one how he reassembled both his party base, 551 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 9: which was very fragile back in twenty twenty three, and 552 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 9: then a national majority to give him the presidency, win 553 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 9: every swing state and put some blue states within an 554 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 9: inch of flipping, and had Joe Biden stilled in the nominee, 555 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 9: I believe they all would have flipped. 556 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: And this really is the big piece of it, because 557 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: one of the flips that I saw, and I've been 558 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: talking about it for a while, but I haven't really 559 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: dug into it as much was, and it's you know, 560 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of our generation. Man, it's the it's the millennials, 561 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: and so you have so many millennials that are now 562 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: entering a different phase of their life, and it's it's 563 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: sort of the Churchillian kind of you know, quotation about 564 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: and you get more conservative as you get older that 565 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: people have really stepped away from the Barack Obama moment, 566 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: and people like, it's so hard, it's so hard to 567 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: explain to you if you don't remember two thousand and 568 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: eight and how much of a movement Barack Obama was. 569 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: And I would hear millennials talk about him like he 570 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: was the second coming of Jesus, and this whole thing 571 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: was media instituted. And something incredible has happened that twenty 572 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: twenty four really was the end of a certain era 573 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: of politics, and certainly I think the end of the 574 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: Obama era, the end of the neoliberal era, and really 575 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: just kind of the end of him really having a 576 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: major influence in our national conversation. And you kind of 577 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: see that reflected in the way that so many millennials. 578 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: Which were his coalition have. 579 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: Now moved over to Trump and Vance and others who 580 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: are actually going to do something about this. And oh, 581 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: by the way, you can even kind of see that 582 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: reflected in Trump's Trump's nominees because heg Seth and Jade 583 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: Vance himself and Tulsa. Not only are the veterans, they're 584 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: the GWATT you know, globe war and terror veterans who 585 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: believed so much of the stuff that was going around 586 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: back then and then have moved off. But not to 587 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: get into the nominees. But Gerdsky talked to me about 588 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: millennials moving away from Obama. 589 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 9: Right, I think that if you look back, I mean, 590 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 9: remember what years we came into adulthood and came into 591 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 9: our formative years, which was the Bush years and the 592 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 9: second term of Bush. I mean the first term he 593 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 9: was very well respected because of nine to eleven. But 594 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 9: the second term of Bush it was really a hrrrific presidency. 595 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 9: The second term of Bush, I mean it was awful. 596 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 9: There was very little positives you could say about it, 597 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 9: from the gutting and manufacturing to the endless war and 598 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 9: terror that was drilled you know, that put thousands of 599 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 9: people either in body bags or came back with horrible 600 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 9: PTSD and the inflation and the stock market crash, all 601 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 9: of those things culminated at the end of the Bush presidency. 602 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 9: So to still want to be a Republican post George W. 603 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 9: Bush was like announcing that you were a leper. It 604 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 9: was very, very, very strange if you were a millennial. 605 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 9: There was a genuine groundswell of support for Barack Obama 606 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 9: that did feel like a movement, a youth movement, and 607 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 9: it was electorally. It's taken twenty years, or nearly twenty 608 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 9: years to really come out of that. You know, cultural 609 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 9: fights like gay marriage was put a lot of millennials 610 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 9: into the Democratic What are They're not an issue anymore. 611 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 9: Abortion wasn't an issue for millennials the way that many 612 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 9: people thought that it would be. It's not like many 613 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 9: thirty five year olds are who you know, a lot 614 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 9: of them are a married or be never planning to marry, 615 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 9: or have full control of their body autonomy. So it's 616 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 9: not all the cultural flashpoints that the Left has been 617 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 9: using and banking on for nearly twenty years really have 618 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 9: gone by the wayside. The economic standpoint, for millennials who 619 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 9: are looking for their first home or their second home 620 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 9: or whatever the case, are trying to afford maybe private school, 621 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 9: for their children. It's it's become economically unavailable to them, 622 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 9: things that were within RISH a couple of years ago, 623 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 9: and I spoke to someone who I remember they were. 624 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 9: They voted Republican for the very first time ever for 625 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 9: the governor for the Connecticut governor's race, and that was 626 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 9: twenty twenty two, and they're like, I feel weird about it, 627 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 9: but this is not working. And there was these slow 628 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 9: moving things throughout the years where I think by twenty 629 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 9: twenty four they were like, this is this what I 630 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 9: have believed in, what I have done is clearly not working. 631 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 9: And the issues of like Ukraine or democracy or whatnot, 632 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 9: or abortion, they care about them to a certain extent, 633 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 9: but not more than their pocketbook, not more than the 634 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 9: price of grosses, not more than their personal safety, not 635 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 9: more than their ability to buy a home. And Donald 636 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 9: Trump did something very very specific in this election cycle 637 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 9: since the Bush administration. To be a Republican mint you 638 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 9: had to really whisper about it. In most corners of 639 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 9: the country. Donald Trump made himself and thus Republicans as 640 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 9: a whole, a bigger, I want to, for lack of 641 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 9: a term, more socially appropriate thing, you know, trum Trump 642 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 9: going to UFC fights was an event within itself. Who 643 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 9: would stop buy and say hello to him? Trump going 644 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 9: on a million podcasts was super super important for people 645 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 9: who consume that not just like eighteen year old, twenty 646 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 9: year olds, most thirty year olds, is how they get 647 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 9: their news from and people who are intellectually curious. You 648 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 9: want to hear. I wrote this in the American Conservative 649 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 9: piece you want to hear you know, Trump talk about 650 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein, there's a podcast episode. Or how about aliens? 651 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 9: It's a podcast episode. Inflation, there's a podcast episode immigration, 652 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 9: whatever the case is. He became more relatable through these events, 653 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 9: through these things, while Kamala Harris, through her celebrity and 654 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 9: endorsements like Taylor Swift and Oprah Winfrey and Beyonce, became 655 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 9: less less relatable. You know, the average person cannot relate 656 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 9: to Oprah Winfrey or Taylor Swift or Beyonce, But Andrew 657 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 9: Schultz is much more relatable. Or Joe Rogan is relatable 658 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 9: to a lot of people. The spipe being super wealthy 659 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 9: because that's how they've made their money. So they made 660 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 9: their fortune, it's by being a relatable personality who doesn't 661 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 9: come across as untouchable because they're so famous. And Donald 662 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 9: Trump as a man who's been wealthy his whole life 663 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 9: and famous most of his life, most longer than most 664 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 9: people alive, the average American's life has been more famous 665 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 9: than became an approachable person. The ability in the last 666 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 9: twenty two months to change a public image by somebody 667 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 9: who is universally known is almost unheard of. And I 668 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 9: think that that came through his the way he approached media, 669 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 9: and also I think by his indictments he went from 670 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 9: being a quote unquote bully to a martyr for a 671 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 9: lot of people, and all that I think really worked, 672 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 9: especially within the thirty to forty five age range. 673 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: No, I think that's exactly right, and I'd love the 674 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: piece there that you put together. 675 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 3: We have a quick break here, but this is huge. 676 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: In the next segment, though, I want to talk about 677 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: your contention that this is a coalition that potentially has 678 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: legs for future and more and more elections going forward 679 00:40:41,239 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: state doing. Ryer Dusky, the MAGA governing majority. 680 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 4: Of the. 681 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 10: Jack is a great guy. 682 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 3: He's written that fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. 683 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 9: You'll get it. 684 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 10: Hetty's bring my friend right from the beginning of this 685 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 10: whole urful event. 686 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 14: And we're going to turn it around, make your country 687 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 14: to get. 688 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: Mn Okay, Jack POSTOBC back Human Events Daily. Here we are, 689 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: We're all with Ryan Gridsky. So Gridsky walk me through this. Look, 690 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: President Trump, he can't run again. We have a constitution 691 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: that says so, and uh, no real chance of Yeah, 692 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't think any real discussion. 693 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 3: Of that being changed anytime soon. 694 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: So what's maga to do with this governing majority that's 695 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: been put together? 696 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: Here? Right? 697 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 9: And as I wrote in it in the American conservative 698 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 9: magazine mcommag dot com, it's called the governing majority. If 699 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 9: you can keep it is the article I really hope 700 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 9: everyone reads it. So what I write about is specifically 701 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 9: coalitions of new people and the same that Nixon brought 702 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 9: evangelicals and white Southerners and neo conservatives and ethnic whites 703 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 9: into the party in nineteen sixty eight to build his 704 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 9: first governing majority, which won five of the next six 705 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 9: presidential elections. Trump has brought a lot of minorities, inner 706 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 9: city minorities, especially Asians and Latinos, ex urban, suburban and 707 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 9: x urban minorities, which there are a specifically large amount 708 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 9: in some cities suburbs. Suburbs are all white. They're very 709 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 9: very diverse now and young men especially. How you continue 710 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 9: this is very very important going into the future, because 711 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 9: when someone casts a vote for Republican presidential candidate for 712 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 9: the very first time, they have not signed up yet 713 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 9: to be a Republican. And it is very common, as 714 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 9: it was with Nixon and with Reagan and George H. W. 715 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: Bush and even George W. 716 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 9: Bush, a lot of people with long traditional history of 717 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 9: voting Democrat would vote Republican at the top of the 718 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 9: ballot and Democrat down. That's why the South remained solidly 719 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 9: Democrat all throughout the Nixon and Reagan area. Even though 720 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 9: they were voting for Reagan, there were still Southern Democrats, 721 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 9: Southern white Democrats going to George W. Bush. States like 722 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 9: West Virginia didn't flip to like twenty twelve, twenty fourteen. 723 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 9: So these things take a long time in some cases, 724 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 9: I think with right now with the left being so insane, 725 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 9: and we're seeing this a lot right now with a 726 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 9: Penny case over in New York where they're defending criminality, homelessness, 727 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 9: all the worst elements of urban plight and saying no, 728 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 9: this is normative, and this should this is. 729 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 3: The real problem. 730 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 9: Was a white guy protecting people, not a black person 731 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 9: who had mental health issues, criminality and homelessness, or they 732 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 9: call it the unhoused down, their need to root for 733 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 9: societal breakdown, I think really pushes a lot of people 734 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 9: to question long held political alliances. If Republicans really double 735 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 9: down on this effort to make life healthier, more affordable, 736 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 9: more secure, protect our borders, and really reach into MAGA 737 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 9: issues that were a step further away from let's say, 738 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,919 Speaker 9: the Reagan issues. The nineteen eighty is not bashing around 739 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 9: with Reagan. It's just a completely different time. It's been 740 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 9: half a century for older viewers who get very very 741 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 9: you know, angry when you say anything that Reagan. If 742 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 9: you lean into these new issues, I think you will 743 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 9: create a pattern where you see the suburbs of New 744 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 9: York City, which includes New Jersey and parts of Connecticut 745 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 9: moving moving further Republican New Jersey becoming a Republican state. 746 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 9: Young people rather than breaking seventy thirty or seventy five 747 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 9: twenty five, breaking fifty five forty five and then eventually 748 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 9: become a majority Republican, all of these things, young black men, Youngestpian, 749 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 9: young white men, which we're moving more democratic. Up till 750 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 9: this last election, young white men were also being beaten 751 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 9: down by it. Really sitting there and saying that the 752 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 9: left's support for anarchy and rooting against civilization is antithetical 753 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 9: to American Valley. 754 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: By the way, I would even throw I would throw 755 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: New Hampshire in that bucket as well. I think New 756 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: Hampshire for those demographics. 757 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I know. In add you have to 758 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 3: mention it, but that's I think New Hampshire is right there. 759 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, listen, New Hampshire was considered why even 760 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 9: bother going there? When JD went a campaign there, it 761 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 9: was a two point state. Minnesota was a two point state. 762 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 9: This is not that far away from getting there. Maine 763 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 9: was only I think seven points, and in New Mexico 764 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 9: was five. This is this is very, very very winnable. 765 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 9: This is very easy to get and I think that 766 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 9: we can get there. It doesn't have to be a 767 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 9: situation where we are always dependent upon you know, three 768 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 9: Midwestern states, as much as you love Pennsylvania, but that 769 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 9: were always dependent upon them. I think we can grow 770 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 9: the map, and I think we can grow the map 771 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 9: based upon this new coalition. Trump got within six of 772 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 9: New Jersey. There's no reason why we can win the 773 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 9: governorship and make it a one point two point statement. 774 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 3: Remember Jersey was Republican. 775 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 9: From nineteen sixty eight to nineteen eighty eight in every election. 776 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey is a former Republican state anyway, so it 777 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: already generally has the demographics that you would expect. Now, 778 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: immigration has obviously played a huge role in that, but 779 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: there are ways through. 780 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 3: This path to be able to get back to it. 781 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: And in you know, in addition to that, you know, 782 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: you're looking at so many of these states going forward 783 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 1: that it just makes sense. 784 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: It just makes so much sense to try to expand 785 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 3: the map. 786 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: And I'll throw out that, you know, if we get 787 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: the census figured out, then we'll already be able to 788 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you get the census figured out, that you 789 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: are probably going to win more electoral votes just in 790 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: terms of internal migration in the country than like the 791 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin is worth in terms I want to hear. 792 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 9: The craziest thing since twenty twenty is the last presidential 793 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 9: lection cycle based on current trends, where we will need 794 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 9: a single Midwestern state. Republicans could win winning every single 795 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 9: state that Trump won outside of Michigan Wisconsin. 796 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: And Ryan, before we sign off, I hear there's a 797 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 1: special announcement that you wanted to make the guarding place 798 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: where people can go to find all these fantastic insights 799 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: that you have. 800 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so. 801 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 10: Much, Shack. 802 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 9: I am launching a new podcast on the bucking Clay 803 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 9: Network for iHeartRadio. It's called It's a Numbers Game with 804 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 9: Ryan Gerdusky, where I was breaking down statistics and data 805 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 9: very very important once a week and describing why you 806 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 9: should learn about it and what you should know about it. 807 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 9: So thank you for giving me the shout out. 808 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: That's absolutely incredible. Congratulations by the way, hugely earned. Fantastic 809 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: book that you wrote a while back on populism now 810 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: a huge podcast coming forward. And of course we all 811 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: love Ryan Gerdusky's his run on CNN, his epic run 812 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: where he flew straight into the sun, straight into the 813 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: face of the sun and just. 814 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 3: Just like I'm going for broke, I know they're gonna 815 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 3: fire me anyway, so we'll have to. 816 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: Your first episode should be all the greatest says thanks, right, guys, 817 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: go give Ryan a follow, Go follow this new podcast, 818 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: make sure you check that out when it comes, and 819 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: go watch the CN clips because they are just some 820 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: of the greatest things you'll ever see. Scott Jennings does 821 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: all right, but Ryan went absolutely into the pate folks, 822 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. It's been a great week and as always, 823 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: you have my permission to lay sure