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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say, disaster strikes and this negatively impacts Drake

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Speaker 4: May and you stuck without a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So make May is playing but he's not playing.

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Speaker 4: Well, oh, well, they didn't do anything to support them.

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Speaker 4: They failed them, you know, they ruined them. And that's

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Speaker 4: the that's the narrative to say this time in two years.

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Speaker 4: We're not allowed to say.

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Speaker 3: That by drafting Joe Milton.

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Speaker 4: We're not allowed to say. Yeah, we're not allowed to

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Speaker 4: say it.

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Speaker 3: Thought, well, I think that would be incorrect.

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Speaker 4: But you didn't see it. No, but if it's a hypothetic,

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Speaker 4: were there more reasons mac Jones was a bust other

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Speaker 4: than they hired Matt Patricia for the offensive coordinator. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but you're not allowed to say that.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot different than drafting Joe.

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Speaker 5: I don't hear you say.

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Speaker 3: It's not even apples to apples.

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Speaker 4: So don't don't ever saying.

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Speaker 3: Allowed to say whatever you want, and everyone's allowed to.

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Speaker 4: If I do that, I'm just being a baby. Check

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Speaker 4: it at the door next time. Okay, I'll be all

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Speaker 4: on board.

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Speaker 3: Baby when you start saying, well, I can't say what

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Speaker 3: I when you act like a baby, baby, It's.

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Speaker 6: Gonna be fun to just get out there. See what

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Speaker 6: they look like, see what they move like. And I'm

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Speaker 6: just excited to see what Joe Milton most like.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 3: at you Let's Stadium. It's Deuce, it's Alex, it's Paul,

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Speaker 3: it's Fred Evan.

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Speaker 6: U doing interviews with on WHENU and uh Bentley okayah.

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Speaker 8: Help me buying a little bit. He's gonna listen to

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Speaker 8: those guys.

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Speaker 6: And ask Michael and whine about his bike riding through

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Speaker 6: the locker room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that was wild.

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Speaker 8: I'm just like and who filmed that?

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Speaker 6: Kendrick Bourne, I think, Yeah, it seems like Kendrick Born.

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Speaker 3: So that's new.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, those basketball the shot.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't have been able to do that a year ago.

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Speaker 6: Riding your bike, go ride your bike outside.

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Speaker 3: Or having your phone out. You got to get Yeah,

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Speaker 3: forget about the bike just filming social media content?

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Speaker 5: Are those rules just for in season?

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Speaker 3: Maybe I thought when you come here, you come here

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Speaker 3: to work.

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Speaker 8: That's what I've thought. Yeah, tonight, good job.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if the basketball hoop is brand new

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Speaker 9: or if it was just replaced. I think they've had

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Speaker 9: basketball hoops in the past, but they get broken.

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Speaker 8: They definitely connect four okay, right, don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you guys have been in the locker room

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Speaker 4: way more than I have lately. I don't know that

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Speaker 4: they've had basketball hoops in the locker.

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Speaker 8: I've never seen.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that. Well.

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Speaker 9: We talked about it for static camp, and I think Richie,

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Speaker 9: one of the guys that works in football, was telling

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Speaker 9: us that when they do have them, they.

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Speaker 10: Just they break them because they take the games to series.

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Speaker 3: Set up a hoop, me too, I want to set

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Speaker 3: up a hoop right here in the TV compound. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So like when there's no trucks, we could just go

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Speaker 8: That'd be fun, would be good.

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Speaker 3: The ceiling is certainly high enough.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, work on my my shot. Evan.

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Speaker 6: We can put Evan in his place because I think

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Speaker 8: Actually he's not. He didn't play whatever his youth basketball

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Speaker 10: Him he can pick anyone against me. And Genesia.

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Speaker 8: Oh well, Genisia, that girl, she she can play.

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Speaker 5: Guys are both legit basketball players.

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Speaker 10: I've never seen her play, but I think she would be.

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Speaker 8: I think so too. I talked to it.

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Speaker 10: Well, know, she coaches, coaches, she coaches boys.

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Speaker 3: She said, she's that's her. That's yeah.

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Speaker 5: She played basket.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we've talked a little bit. She played AAU.

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Speaker 6: I love talking to her about she first year coaching.

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Speaker 3: She so.

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Speaker 8: I love hearing her go through the coaching experience.

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Speaker 10: And you know, it's very wholesome.

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Speaker 5: There's always a pain in the information.

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Speaker 4: I don't get doun in my dungeon. I was aware

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Speaker 4: of that. Lot told to go back.

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Speaker 11: Down, get you.

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Speaker 3: I had a call.

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Speaker 8: I have a call anyway.

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Speaker 3: People listening don't know who these people are.

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Speaker 5: But dey knew who Devin mccordy is.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So you got a new kicker.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Sly Joey slye veteran, little veteran.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, any good guy. He was Washington's can't be that.

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Speaker 6: Last, yeah they Yeah, the Jacks just I guess the

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Speaker 6: Jags must have drafted somebody and don't care for competition.

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Speaker 6: But wow, but I mean joking aside, like and I

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Speaker 6: don't want to get back into the Joe Milton at all,

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Speaker 6: but I mean it does.

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Speaker 8: Seem like this regime is you have.

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Speaker 4: No threat of that that.

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Speaker 6: I do think that this regime has carried some of

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Speaker 6: that over from Bill, which is competition, competition, competition, and

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Speaker 6: is they try to, you know, find a new offensive

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Speaker 3: I mean, believe it or not, most coaches or that

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Speaker 3: I mean Pete Carroll, believe it or not, was like that.

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Speaker 3: He always, you know, fancied himself at having a very

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's just sometimes you think, guys, I've.

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Speaker 8: Actually heard that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know sometimes you just like think about

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Speaker 6: like some player like well he should just have the job.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't need like this guy breathing down his neck right.

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Speaker 4: Year, there wouldn't be another kick.

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Speaker 8: And that's specific to Ryland.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you in the respect to Ryland. That

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Speaker 6: wasn't the point. I was trying to go ahead, go

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Speaker 6: to your little pole.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is.

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Speaker 6: But sometimes other position groups, you know, it's just kind

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Speaker 6: of like, really, do you really you need another body there?

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Speaker 8: But you know how it works.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes these guys people get hurt and uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: you can always use those guys that have been in

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Speaker 6: the building since the spring.

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Speaker 3: So that happened, and then today just probably right now,

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Speaker 3: the remaining Tom Brady Day tickets are up for sale

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Speaker 3: on ticket Master June twelfth.

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Speaker 8: Go get them. Go get them people.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, what they're going for it's a hundred bucks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, go get them. I was just as a Patriots fan, Well,

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Speaker 6: there's not many left I go right now because they've

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Speaker 6: been up there for about six minutes. But I just say,

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Speaker 6: as a Patriots fan, this is it's worth it. It's worth

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Speaker 6: it to be there if you're a Tom Brady fan

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Speaker 6: and you want to see him honored the way he

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Speaker 6: should be honored, with all kinds of surprises and all

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Speaker 6: kinds of fun and not you know, and some people

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Speaker 6: are like, oh, it's probably the same old cast of

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Speaker 6: characters that you're gonna wrote. No, it's different, and there's

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Speaker 6: just a lot of really cool stuff. And I think

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Speaker 6: if you're a Tom Brady fan and you miss this,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna be kicking yourself in the butt because it's

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Speaker 6: it's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be something that goes down in Patriots history. Yes,

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Speaker 3: the same way Larry Bird and I did for the Celtics. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was well done, and I remember that like it

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Speaker 3: was yesterday.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was kind of you know, he's getting

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that'll be interesting, Yeah, which which was you know.

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Speaker 6: But I feel like it's a good complimentary thing because

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Speaker 6: you're gonna have everybody come out kind of tease them

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Speaker 6: a little bit this weekend his wounds Brady, and then

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Speaker 6: it's you're gonna have some of the same people coming

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Speaker 6: complimentary With an E and an I I think you

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Speaker 6: corrected me on that a couple of times, spread on

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Speaker 8: Got it down now so that the difference between the

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Speaker 6: But you know, there's a lot of complimentary weapons, complimentary pieces.

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Speaker 8: To the offense cross I did.

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Speaker 6: I did, but I didn't know the actual name of

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Speaker 3: They compliment each other and when they do well, we

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Speaker 11: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Right, It's like.

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Speaker 8: The the brown horse jumped over what's that saying?

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Speaker 12: That?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 8: It gets every letter in you know I'm talking.

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Speaker 10: About now jump over the fence or something?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, okay, sorry, all right?

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Speaker 3: What else? So we got Brady tickets, we got a

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Speaker 3: new kicker.

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Speaker 8: A new kicker.

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Speaker 6: We're I mean, we're supposedly going to see the rookies

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Speaker 6: next weekend, right.

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Speaker 3: Did we mention that they released Connor McDermott last.

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Speaker 5: Show after the show?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's got rid of him.

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Speaker 6: So that gets him down to eight eight tackles. I

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Speaker 6: maybe do air quotes on the tackles because some of

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Speaker 6: them have you know, Michael, when you I guess as a.

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Speaker 8: Tackle, but I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I continue to want wish them when you would go

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Speaker 8: I just think that that's the best place. And well,

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Speaker 8: I love if they could find two tackles.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. If he goes back inside, it

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Speaker 3: means that they have somebody outside, so that now you've

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Speaker 3: increased the depth you've you know, So that's that's why

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Speaker 3: I would want it to go inside, is because wow,

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Speaker 3: they've got a you know, a real tackle out there.

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Speaker 3: Not that no, no, no disrespect to Mike and when

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Speaker 3: you he could be just as good, but you want

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Speaker 3: as deep in solid line as you can possibly get.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think when you spent most of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I think that the upside of

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Speaker 4: that would be to have and I know that it's

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Speaker 8: Sounds like Jalen Polk's gonna take number one too.

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Speaker 3: These rookies, So that'll we'll be having content throughout. I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, some pictures, yeah, and stuff like that as a

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Speaker 8: Getting them all in today.

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Speaker 8: What else?

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Speaker 6: No, I mean, I I think we're just uh, I

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Speaker 6: Shoot, I didn't, Uh, I didn't reprint my own I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Your color coded death shot lasted one show? Did me

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Speaker 3: He was rattled.

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Speaker 4: We rattled him, Freddy. Yeah, he's done.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, more Brady.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if you guys wanted to bring that out.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: This was the cool.

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Speaker 4: It was incredible. I loved that we we sat with

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Speaker 4: I said to my dad so much.

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Speaker 8: What made Brady great?

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Speaker 6: And like you said, Paul, like I could have sat

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Speaker 4: you know, like you know, super Bowl thirty six against

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Speaker 4: the Rams, and you know, the overtime game winning drive

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Speaker 4: against the Falcons and the Chiefs, and but there's some

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Speaker 4: other stuff in there that you probably don't necessarily necessarily remember,

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Speaker 4: with the same amount of detail that So we kind

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Speaker 4: of gave you a good little cross section. Yeah, regular season, postseason,

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Speaker 4: you know, different stages of his career earlier, later, and

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Speaker 4: just sort of the maturation process that you could actually

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Speaker 4: see as you go through them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The cool part to me was just that Josh started

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Speaker 6: off as a coaching assistant and you know, we know

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Speaker 6: we left for a little bit, but when he I

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Speaker 6: mean he was basically there for the whole thing.

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Speaker 8: You know, he saw all the development.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he made a joke we were talking about

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Speaker 6: a game in six that we're reviewing and it's like,

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Speaker 6: you know, all of a sudden, you're the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 8: How was that?

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Speaker 6: Trends in out I was very lucky to have Tom,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 8: He's that.

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Speaker 6: But they became such a you know, a dynamic duo,

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Speaker 6: so to speak, and and you know, Brady and McDaniels.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this will live forever, and I think it'll be,

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Speaker 6: you know, something that people really want to look at

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Speaker 6: how great Tom Brady was. I think this shows it

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Speaker 6: in a way that nothing else has ever shown.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't wait to see how they edit it.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think we're gonna do and we're going

479
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Speaker 4: to need to sit down and figure out exactly what

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Speaker 4: our goal was to try to present.

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Speaker 8: It a lot.

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Speaker 3: I was telling No Socks that it should be edited

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Speaker 3: in a way to make it look like the old

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Speaker 3: NFL films would safety stable, would sit down and maybe

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Speaker 3: kind of have that time kind of look to it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that was I mean, those were my I mean

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Speaker 8: that's for me like that.

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Speaker 6: I love those films, like and everyone remembers those where

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Speaker 6: you know, Steve Sable sitting, you know, in a button

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Speaker 6: down and a sweater and he's sitting in the studio,

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Speaker 6: you know, within his chair and it's almost like masterpiece

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Speaker 6: theater kind of how he would, you know, introduce it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was definitely thinking the masterpiece theater thing, because

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Speaker 4: I know they had to be a camera behind us,

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Speaker 4: you know, and you know, contrary to popular opinion, they

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Speaker 4: did not show the plays on the back of my head.

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Speaker 3: But I heard You've got a lot of compliments from

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Speaker 3: Josh and your memory. Yeah, like you were throwing stuff

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Speaker 3: out there and he's like, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the steel Trap. Yeah, Paul's like calling out corners names.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the useless stuff that I can't know.

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Speaker 5: Somehow, in this case, it was useful.

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Speaker 6: As soon as we got about twenty fifteen, Paul zoned out.

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Speaker 6: He didn't remember any I.

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Speaker 4: Was laughing with Deuce because I was sort of talking

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Speaker 4: about different personnel on the other side of the you know,

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Speaker 4: the other team. And I have a recollection for the

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Speaker 4: individual players that were involved in any of those plays

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Speaker 4: from six, much more so than I do now. Like

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Speaker 4: if you ask me, you know, like the Denver game

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Speaker 4: last year when they went down the fields and you know,

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Speaker 4: set up the Ryland game winning field goal at the end,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you who the cornerback was they gave

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Speaker 4: up the big play or anything, you know for Denver.

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Speaker 4: But you asked me, like, why do you think seven was?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is that because we were doing the paper?

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Speaker 6: Because I'm a loser now, No, seriously, get older to

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Speaker 6: retain new.

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Speaker 5: Information the brain, Really, I have to push some other

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Speaker 5: stuff out.

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Speaker 4: You gotta get rid of some of those. You probably

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Speaker 4: have a theory on that. What do I have to do?

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Speaker 5: Get rid of your olive oil?

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Speaker 10: Olive oil?

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Speaker 9: Definitely, if you want me to go into a rabbit

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Speaker 9: hole olive oil. Every day consumption is we don't really

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Speaker 9: linked to good memory function.

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Speaker 3: What about oil?

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Speaker 10: That's two. That's definitely.

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Speaker 3: I have a goods take every day. Yeah, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: I'm only kidding. I do take it every Some fish.

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Speaker 10: Oil is sketchy. You got to get a reliable fish oil.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but you need a lot of people are deficient

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Speaker 9: in omega threes and then their balance of omega sixes

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Speaker 9: is too much, and it can.

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Speaker 10: Correct me if I'm wrong. If anyone actually knows more.

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Speaker 3: Than this, somebody nutrition.

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Speaker 10: If we got a balance, it is really bad, really bad.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's always the rule of thumb. I always assume

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Speaker 5: they all know more. They will, let you know, brain superfood.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, let's get to the listeners eight five

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Speaker 3: to five past five hundred programming Note. Around one o'clock

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Speaker 3: or so, Mike Reese of ESPN, one of the leading

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Speaker 3: Patriots beat writers, will be joining us to get his

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Speaker 3: take on the draft and in the current state of

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Speaker 3: the team. So we'll be talking to Mike around one o'clock,

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Speaker 3: just before or after we get to eat. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's get to the Ace ticket hout line. We'll start

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Speaker 3: with Tim and Westford. What's up, Tim?

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Speaker 13: Hey, I just want to talk. But Drake May for

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Speaker 13: a minute, really excited by the pick. Okay, I think,

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Speaker 13: you know, looking at him after all the draft type

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Speaker 13: has gone down, a lot of people have compared him

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Speaker 13: to Josh Allen. I don't quite see that. I don't

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Speaker 13: think he I think, you know, I think Josh Allen

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Speaker 13: is kind of one of a kind, super elusive kind

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Speaker 13: of quarterback and a rocket arm. I think Drake May

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Speaker 13: is a plus arm. I think he's you know, kind

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Speaker 13: of prototypical. But I see it more as like a

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Speaker 13: Jordan Love as an NFL pro comparison. It's still a

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Speaker 13: great player, right, I guess my My other feeling is,

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Speaker 13: you know, if this offensive line situation is really not

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Speaker 13: good this year, I think in the best interest that

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Speaker 13: Drake made it not play.

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Speaker 3: But how will we know that just because yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: we find that out before you know, when it's too late.

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Speaker 3: You know, how do you know if the line is

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Speaker 3: going to be good before they start playing games? And

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Speaker 3: if you want me in there right away, he's going

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Speaker 3: to be in those games.

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Speaker 13: Well, I don't think they should play him right away.

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Speaker 4: So regardless if he's good enough to play.

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Speaker 13: Well, he might be physically good enough, but I don't

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Speaker 13: think he's going to be a full field reader by

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Speaker 13: the time the NFL season opens. I mean, that was

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Speaker 13: one of the big knocks on him coming out is

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Speaker 13: that he was kind of a first read guy. So

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Speaker 13: I think he's gonna need some time not only just

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Speaker 13: getting used to the playbook this offseason, but also working

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Speaker 13: on his footwork and becoming a full field reader. So

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Speaker 13: I think Jacobe Brissette is starting no matter what. And

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Speaker 13: I think if we see bad offensive line play, then

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Speaker 13: you know he can't go in until the offensive line improves.

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Speaker 13: And if it doesn't improve, then you know, I see

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Speaker 13: a whole year with him not playing.

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Speaker 4: All right, Thanks, Tim, I mean count me among those

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Speaker 4: that absolutely hate that mentality.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, the whole thing where I veer off of

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Speaker 3: what Tim was saying is he's gonna Jacoby Brissett's gonna

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Speaker 3: start no matter what.

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Speaker 8: Why.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so it has nothing to do with the

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Speaker 4: offensive line. I mean, this is Tim's view, and this

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Speaker 4: is a lot of people's view, but it has nothing

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Speaker 4: to do with the offensive line. You don't think that

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Speaker 4: Drake me is going to be ready to start, he

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Speaker 4: may not be, and if he's not, I would suggest

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Speaker 4: Tim's right, don't play him. But he says, but if

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Speaker 4: he's ready to play, I don't care what the offensive

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Speaker 4: line he can't. I want my third overall pick to

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Speaker 4: elevate people around him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And when you say no matter what, then you're

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Speaker 3: saying even if he's head and shoulders better than perset,

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Speaker 3: and I don't that I don't agree with. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 3: you can come up with examples of it working every

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Speaker 3: different way, and you can also come up with examples

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Speaker 3: of it not working every.

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Speaker 4: If he's not ready, I don't want him to play.

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Speaker 4: That's where I agree with Tim. If he's not a

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Speaker 4: you know, if his footwork is still a mess, and

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Speaker 4: he hasn't, you know, learn how to read the field

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Speaker 4: and see the field properly, I'm with Tim. I don't

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Speaker 4: want to play him, but I'm assuming that we're having

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Speaker 4: a good training camp right where he shows that he

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Speaker 4: can do those things. And the comparison to Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: is not about like level of play, it's style of play.

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Speaker 4: Like he might never be anywhere near what Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: was four years ago, let alone now. He might never

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Speaker 4: get to that level. But stylistically he plays in a

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Speaker 4: similar style. He's a bigger quarterback who doesn't necessarily elude you.

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Speaker 4: He runs through you, and he has a big arm.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't have Josh Allen's arm, No one does.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not quite the freight train that Josh Allen is.

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Speaker 6: To me, like hell run through, but he plays in that.

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Speaker 5: That's where the comparison is. Yeah, And a lot of

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Speaker 5: people say, justin Herbert, that's the mix.

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Speaker 6: It's a mix of those guys to me, And it's

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Speaker 6: not either one of them is perfect, but I think

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Speaker 6: there's little elements of both that if you kind of combined,

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Speaker 6: And that's that's kind of what I just want.

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Speaker 5: Like Tim, like I've used that comparison a lot.

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Speaker 14: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I would never even dream of putting him on that

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Speaker 4: level of ability. He has never played a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I agree with Tim, Like, it's not it's not

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Speaker 4: call him Josh Allen. I don't think anyone is. I

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Speaker 4: think they're just kind of comparing them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just to categorize the guys, like it's just

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Speaker 9: leading up into the draft. How else do you get

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Speaker 9: these players to resonate with fans who don't really know

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Speaker 9: as much about it. You have to give it, you

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Speaker 9: have to give a comparison, but you can't read too

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Speaker 9: much into it.

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Speaker 6: Like yeah, I mean, even I think we get on

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Speaker 6: the field on ota is you'll start to get a

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Speaker 6: little bit of a sense. But on one point I

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Speaker 6: wanted to make off that call though, is that I'll

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Speaker 6: be very disappointed if this offensive line.

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Speaker 8: Is a disaster this year.

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Speaker 6: Like, I think that that's a huge miss if that,

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Speaker 6: if that ends up happening, I think that they have

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Speaker 6: enough depth there that they should be able to salvage

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Speaker 6: a serviceable, dedicated coach. Dedicated coach guy knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 6: He's been trained for a while under Bill Callahan. So

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, kind of like Elliott Well, some

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Speaker 6: of these guys have been apprentices to do what they're

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Speaker 6: doing now. And you know, if that ends up short

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Speaker 6: circuiting this season and harming Drake May's development, I think

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Speaker 6: that's something that you really have to look at as

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Speaker 6: a point of criticism.

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Speaker 8: Where we all knew it. We knew it was a

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Speaker 8: disaster last year. It wasn't addressed.

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Speaker 6: We knew it was you know, we knew that that

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Speaker 6: was a big piece that had to be fixed, and

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Speaker 6: you went the wide receiver route. It seemed like even

667
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Speaker 6: if you traded back into the second round, you wanted

668
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Speaker 6: to go to the wide receiver route.

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Speaker 8: So I do think that that's an area that you

670
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Speaker 8: have to watch.

671
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Speaker 6: And that they I think they should be okay, though

672
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Speaker 6: good enough at least to not be like we can't

673
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Speaker 6: even put a rookie in because it's just the guys

674
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Speaker 6: are flying it.

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Speaker 4: I think that's going to depend on what they do

676
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Speaker 4: for a system. Evan's been talking about this a lot about,

677
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Speaker 4: you know, protecting the offensive line, and that was one

678
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: of the things that really stuck out to Mike and

679
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: I yesterday when we were watching a lot of those things,

680
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Speaker 4: and how many times Brady was the offensive line.

681
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Speaker 5: It was amazing.

682
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Speaker 4: How many times was absolutely immediate pressure Yeah, didn't matter

683
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: because you knew, he knew it was coming, he knew

684
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Speaker 4: where it was coming from.

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Speaker 10: Now, there's always going to be offensive line complaints.

686
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that there will be because I

687
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: don't think they've really done anything to address. So I

688
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: think they're going to have a similarly in terms of

689
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: the way they play. It's going to be similar, But

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Speaker 4: I think the offense is going to probably do more

691
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Speaker 4: because it's going to be so different and to protect that, yeah,

692
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: and but sort of and hide that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But will the communication be better on that?

695
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Speaker 5: I don't know those things to be, but that that

696
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 5: can help.

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Speaker 3: It would have helped even last year with those guys,

698
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: better communication even would have helped them.

699
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean I think even just in a heavy wide

701
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 6: zone system where you know, you want to I mean,

702
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Speaker 6: Drake's athletic, I mean, Jacoby's pretty athletic. I mean you're

703
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 6: gonna be running bootlegs with them, you know, stuff like

704
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 6: that off of play action. So you know, I do

705
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 6: think that there's some stuff baked into this offense that

706
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 6: you know, can just help. It's not going to just

707
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 6: be a spread attack where make sure we had the protection, right,

708
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 6: that's you know, not have any you know, free runners,

709
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Speaker 6: which is what you've seen a lot the last couple

710
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Speaker 6: of years, is those guys where it's like, well that

711
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 6: play had no chance because they were they weren't they

712
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 6: didn't have it protective, you know, And.

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Speaker 3: If a good defensive coordinator can create that anyway, that's

714
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Speaker 3: where the quarterback comes in, right, right, What do I

715
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Speaker 3: do when it's a red alert.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that feeds into the question of and you know,

717
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Speaker 6: to Tim's point about you know, I don't think you

718
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Speaker 6: need to feel that a quarterback is ready to read

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Speaker 6: the full field before you can put him in. I

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Speaker 6: do think there's ways that you can manage young quarterbacks,

721
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Speaker 6: you know. And and but how much are they gonna

722
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Speaker 6: put on Drake may I? You know, we again go

723
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Speaker 6: back to the breething. I mean, everything was on him,

724
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Speaker 6: he could, you know, And I think that was one

725
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Speaker 6: of the big criticisms of, you know, the system that

726
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 6: they kept going after Josh with Mack, that you put

727
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 6: so much on the quarterback that if he.

728
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Speaker 8: Misses one thing, he's dead.

729
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Speaker 6: So now, you know, I know there's you know, David

730
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Speaker 6: Anders been saying he's gonna start calling the protections and stuff.

731
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Speaker 6: So I do think that there's some mechanical shifting going

732
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Speaker 6: on within this new system that that I hope will

733
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Speaker 6: help keep them all on the same page.

734
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Speaker 3: Our first feedback on the Brady tickets, Carlos writes in

735
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Speaker 3: the show, just wanted to give an update on the

736
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame cermony. Tickets are sold out and the

737
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Speaker 3: cheapest verified resale ticket was around two seventy five.

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Speaker 12: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, also wanted to ask what your guys opinion was

740
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Speaker 3: regarding to do your job signs being removed from the facility.

741
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: I personally feel like it makes sense considering it was

742
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: the previous coach's mantra. It's interested to hear your thoughts.

743
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel the same.

744
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 6: I mean, you've got to put your own stamp on

745
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 6: the team, You've got to put your own pictures up

746
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 6: you want to you know, that's that's I mean, that's

747
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 6: probably one of the fun parts of things that I

748
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 6: like about coaching is you have to have your own

749
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 6: philosophy and you know, those things are so attached to

750
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 6: Bill and I mean the general sentiments kind of remains

751
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 6: with what you see, Like we not me saw some

752
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Speaker 6: of the signs that you know.

753
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Speaker 8: Supposedly that they had up.

754
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Speaker 6: But you know, that's that's what each coach has in

755
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Speaker 6: their discretion and how they want to you know, what

756
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 6: messages they want to boil down and really want the

757
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 6: team to focus on.

758
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Speaker 9: So it's funny, it's become a narrative kind of because

759
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 9: it's like, has football been renovated in like twenty years,

760
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 9: Like they probably needed to refrash.

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Speaker 4: I just did the whole thing. They justly Yeah, like

762
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: before like what was that it's inside of ten years anyway.

763
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, when they Yeah, they redid a lot down there.

764
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: Yeah they did the whole now but now they they

765
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Speaker 5: read it again.

766
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Speaker 3: I know.

767
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Speaker 4: But I'm saying when we moved, when I like, when

768
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Speaker 4: we moved over to the other side of the building,

769
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Speaker 4: that all football all changed. That's not that long.

770
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Speaker 3: No, when we first moved, Bill's office was right up front,

771
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: right and he had a window looking out. And then

772
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Speaker 3: when they redid it, they moved his into more.

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Speaker 10: The interior didn't want the window anymore.

774
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Speaker 3: They didn't want a window anymore.

775
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Speaker 9: Regardless, Like if you bought a house, if you bought

776
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 9: a house and the previous owners were like driving by

777
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 9: to see like what you were doing, Like don't update

778
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 9: the don't take the floors out like we worked hard

779
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 9: on this, or like oh you can't take the cabinets

780
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Speaker 9: or redo the kitchen.

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Speaker 4: Like for my pic, it's less about the snappy little

782
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: sayings because I'm not a big fan of Yeah, I

783
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Speaker 4: think that's I totally agree with Alex on that, like

784
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: take all of that out and put yours in it's

785
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 4: like to use to continue Alex's like home analogy, like no, no, no,

786
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: you have to have the pictures of my family up there, right,

787
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put you know what I want. What I

788
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: am a little bit curious about is and I read this.

789
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: This was Cameron Wolfe's piece on NFL dot com, who

790
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: was here for the draft, so he had sort of

791
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Speaker 4: evidently a little bit of a tour and info session

792
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Speaker 4: about all the things. I'm a little surprised they took

793
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Speaker 4: away as many of the pictures of past success. I

794
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: would think that's something that you'd want to embrace, but

795
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, they decided to take all that away.

796
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Speaker 4: But do your job, and now it's I have no

797
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: problem with any of that. Like Jimrod should have what

798
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Speaker 4: he feels is an important messaging on the walls. I

799
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Speaker 4: totally agree with his team. I'm with Alex, especially.

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Speaker 6: With the big criticism of you know, former Patriots assistants

801
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 6: trying to be Bill, like you can't like always just

802
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 6: keeping do your job, you know, like that's Bill's thing,

803
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 6: like he heeds.

804
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Speaker 4: I did like the camera and this is just the

805
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 4: one little critique I would say, And this was nothing

806
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: to do with what the Patriots have done. This was

807
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: the way it was written in the piece. It was

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Speaker 4: like they did have a picture of Belichick with other

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Speaker 4: past coaches. Oh well, that's nice, you know Rod rust

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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, you know Bill Boshells. I just thought that

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Speaker 4: was kind of odd that they had, like that's what

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Speaker 4: they banished him too, like all with all the rest

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Speaker 4: of the you know, the memorable coaches and scouts.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was a little strange.

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Speaker 8: I didn't even realize you were doing an out read.

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Speaker 3: Just work it right.

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Speaker 6: guys ordering pizza time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can bet on that. Speaking of betting, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Sam's in Connecticut. What's up, Sam? Sam?

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Speaker 5: Sam?

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Speaker 10: Hey, Hey, guys, can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 15: That a question about something I haven't really seen discussed

844
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 15: on the show so far. Looking at pats caps, the

845
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 15: Patriots to have around fifty million in cap space. Do

846
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Speaker 15: you expect them to spend that this season or do

847
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Speaker 15: you expect them to roll it over? And if you

848
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Speaker 15: do think they're going to spend it, what position slash

849
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Speaker 15: players do you think they may potentially use it on?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I do expect to expect them to spend

851
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Speaker 3: if not all of it, most of it.

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Speaker 8: I don't, I don't. I just don't see where they

853
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Speaker 8: can right now. That's my only thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, where are you just going to get it

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Speaker 4: a fie million in caps?

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Speaker 6: I mean I could see Matthew Judon getting a little sweetener,

857
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Speaker 6: but that's.

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Speaker 4: Not that could get forty billion.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's you know, they they definite they

860
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Speaker 6: need Look, they need five ten million to sign all

861
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Speaker 6: the draft picks and everything.

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Speaker 4: So well I thought that was counting. That is that

863
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Speaker 4: I thought that that number took in to account the draft. Yeah,

864
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Speaker 4: so I mean also the neighborhood they have fifty they

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Speaker 4: have fifty million, you know in the draft. I mean

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Speaker 4: that's usually the way Miguel does it. Yeah, okay, but

867
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Speaker 4: maybe he didn't and I would say, you need you

868
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: definitely need some money for I R and you know

869
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Speaker 4: stuff like you know in season.

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Speaker 8: Yeah sort of, but still that but that's still a

871
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Speaker 8: pretty big number.

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Speaker 4: That's a huge it's a huge number.

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Speaker 5: But I'm just like, I'm with you. I don't like,

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Speaker 5: there's not a big ticket.

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Speaker 8: Item that you can talk about your thing.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's a it's a subtraction that they're saving.

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Speaker 4: It for a subtraction that they're saving it, I mean

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Speaker 4: dead money.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not going to be fifty No.

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00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 8: But you know, little chunks here and there. You know,

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Speaker 8: you get a little sweetener.

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Speaker 4: For you might get another another extension too, who knows.

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Speaker 4: I mean bar More was one. I was surprised there

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Speaker 4: wasn't as much. Who else redre Andre could get one

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Speaker 4: one probably wouldn't heat up too much space.

886
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 10: That narratives kind of started to about it.

887
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: I was like, already, huh, well yeah, I mean the

888
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: media obviously turns to him. There came in, you're gonna

889
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: get your Yeah, you really deserve it, you know. That's

890
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: how like some of them do it.

891
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: That's what they do in New York.

892
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they go up to the guy in the you know, boy,

893
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

894
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: You know they do that.

895
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: They do that to one guy in New York. Then

896
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: they go to the other guy that might play the

897
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 4: same position. A do you believe they gave that money

898
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: to that guy? My god, you're better than him.

899
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: And then before you know it, he's just yep. Yeah,

900
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: school girls.

901
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 5: And that's why Parcels calls them commies subvert from within.

902
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: And hi, evn't hi. How's Mike on one?

903
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 8: You he's good?

904
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing has changed about Mike on One who except

905
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 5: a role X. He said that at that he bought

906
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 5: with his new contract. But he didn't say no.

907
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 10: No, no to ask a good question.

908
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 5: I didn't get the model.

909
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: Was that an elected that he was riding?

910
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 5: No, I think it was a I don't think so,

911
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 5: but I guess he said that the defensive players got

912
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 5: them last year apparently, and some of the guys left

913
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: them here. Uh, you know, over the just leave him here.

914
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: And so it wasn't his bike, it was somebody else's bike.

915
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 5: Was the story? Big stuff?

916
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 6: What was Bentley saying about the kind of culture stuff?

917
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 8: I don't know.

918
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 6: I just saw him saying stuff about things. It's it's

919
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 6: all across the building.

920
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, there's news, there's new slogans and pictures.

921
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 16: Whiney can adult today, Cameron Wolf somewhere in the world

922
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 16: from NFL network, I think right network.

923
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 5: He had written his story obviously had some access to

924
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: to girod and he had written a story about some

925
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 5: of the new pictures and slogans. And you know, they

926
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 5: revamped football. It's not Bill's football operations anymore. So it's

927
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: there's different, uh stuff going on and uh and so

928
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 5: they they asked Jwan Bentley about what's your favorite slogan

929
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 5: and his was progress process something now is off the

930
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 5: top of my head, I cannot remember that's it.

931
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 8: Wow, yeah, I read it in.

932
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 5: The process progress payoff is what it is. And he

933
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: just said that that that's his favorite out of the

934
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 5: few that are floating around. But he did say we

935
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 5: have a slogan coach, well when that comes, well he did.

936
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: He did say that, you know, it doesn't really matter.

937
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 5: He was like, thank you, but yeah, he was like,

938
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 5: if you don't walk the walk, then you know, the

939
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 5: slow the slogan really isn't gonna gonna do much for you.

940
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 5: But yeah, he uh, you know, opened the press conference

941
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 5: with Celtics, ended it with Celtics. So I was happy

942
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: about that. Okay, that's what's really important right now.

943
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: Okay, Evan, did you have a chance to send your

944
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: best wishes to Mike Gorman? And if not, I did

945
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: on Twitter?

946
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it motivated you to get into the business.

947
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 5: I don't. I mean I didn't want to do the

948
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 5: job that he does, so I wouldn't say that. But

949
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 5: as a as a as a Green teamers, somebody that

950
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 5: bleeds green, I'm okay with saying that.

951
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 10: Did you cry?

952
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 5: It got a little Dusty full fledged tried.

953
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 10: I have I have photo evidence because it did.

954
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: And I'm not and I'm not just saying this because

955
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 5: you know I'm tough. No, I'm not really a crier.

956
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: I am a crier, and that's not something that.

957
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 5: Was when when he when he got he was getting

958
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 5: choked up. You could tell on his final sign off.

959
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: And it must have been a puddle when Tom Heysen left.

960
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 6: Well what about Johnny most That one hurts you way

961
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 6: before my time.

962
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 10: Only true Jack's last game tonight too, Right, Well, that's.

963
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 8: What I was going to bring up my Jack.

964
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 5: I don't think so they don't many.

965
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: People sucD Rock.

966
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: I do you think he's feeling like That's what I

967
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 6: didn't get because they said that Game seven would be

968
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: on ABC, But I didn't know if there was an

969
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 6: implication that they would lose.

970
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 5: No, No, there's no so that local TVs only get

971
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: first round.

972
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: I thought in the NHL they got the second round.

973
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 5: Maybe anymore. I think Mike said last night Orman said

974
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: that eight was the last time that they had No.

975
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 5: I thought the NHL was two rounds. Yeah, and he

976
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 5: wrote he did some interview. I'm sorry, I don't know

977
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: if he did a couple. I don't know which one

978
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 5: it was from, but he said that he still hasn't

979
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 5: forgave the NBA for selling their souls to the big

980
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: networks and getting you know, the local guys out of

981
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: the playoffs. You know, he's still that still bugs him

982
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 5: to this this day.

983
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 8: The cowards too, cowards.

984
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: It's funny. I love Mike Gormy, I do, but I

985
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: can't wait for the playoffs so I don't have to

986
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 4: watch the local broadcasts, especially in hockey.

987
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: Oh I don't watch anyway, You don't watch. I know

988
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 3: I watched the National.

989
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying.

990
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: It's just better.

991
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 4: It's it well, sometimes depends on what you're I just

992
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 4: like when something happens and I actually gets might actually

993
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 4: have happened, like when you watch the Bruins and I

994
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 4: know this is like taboo now because it's so sad

995
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: that and I do agree that it's sad that Jack

996
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: Edwards has to just step down because you can't do

997
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 4: it anymore. But like, I'd like to know what actually

998
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 4: happened on a play as opposed to the fiction worlds

999
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: that Jack Edwards.

1000
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: Jack Edwards is Sean McDonough yeah.

1001
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 9: When Jack Edwards compared the Bruins win to the Revolutionary War, though,

1002
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 9: but that's a classic.

1003
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 5: That's a classic.

1004
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: Back in the day, it was different.

1005
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 5: Give me when I just what I don't like about

1006
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 5: the national because I know ESPN just took over and

1007
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 5: TNT just took over, and as somebody that watches the

1008
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: Bruins every single night, they don't know the team, like

1009
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 5: they really don't, you know, they well I don't really

1010
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: care about that, but they don't know the team and

1011
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: that bugs me. Like I'm sitting there, like watching it,

1012
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 5: and like they're talking about a guy that isn't even

1013
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 5: in the lineup that night, or hasn't scored a goal

1014
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 5: in ten games, and they're pumping them up or something

1015
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 5: like that, and I'm like, have you guys actually been

1016
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 5: watching this team play?

1017
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: I hear that I haven't heard things like that, and

1018
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 4: I just I'm with you, Fred, I've watched Sean McDonough.

1019
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: I think they've done a fantastic job with the Toronto

1020
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: series and they've gotten some of the the behind the

1021
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: scenes stuff. Now what helps for Sean that he's a

1022
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: Boston guy, so he probably does have a little I'm.

1023
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: Not talking as much about the play by play guys.

1024
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the.

1025
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 4: Think it's been terrific. And I like Brickley, but I

1026
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: just think he gets sucked into the homersm of Jack

1027
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 4: And yeah.

1028
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 5: I can't I can't handle that. I can't stand Scal awful.

1029
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: It's awful.

1030
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 10: Now I have when I Scal's pretty good though, we'll.

1031
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: See play by play guy.

1032
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Syracuse Robot, Oh yours are mean. I feel

1033
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 5: like Scal though, Like last night, he's still complaining about

1034
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 5: the reps. They're up thirty points and he's still bitching

1035
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 5: about how they're not handled that in the free throw discrepancies,

1036
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: like twenty to two as it should have been, like

1037
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: the Celtics were the more aggressive team. But like Scal's

1038
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 5: going off about the refs and I'm just like, dude,

1039
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 5: they're winning the game by thirty points.

1040
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 8: Is not the difference.

1041
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: Six games all year, every one of them was because

1042
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: of the refs. That Drew that Drew Carter kids just

1043
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: like oh man, tough call. Like not every single time

1044
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: they lose it's because of the rest.

1045
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: I have to admit. When I was a green teamer

1046
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: back in the eighties, I would listen to Johnny most. Yeah,

1047
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 3: I mean for the entertainment. I mean it was completely biased.

1048
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: It it was like ridiculous at times Tommy, but it

1049
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: was just you had to listen to Johnny Mos.

1050
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 5: I feel like scal is trying to be like Tommy

1051
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 5: because Tommy always used to complain about the rafts and

1052
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 5: all that stuff. But it's not the same, Like, it's

1053
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 5: not this it was like when it was coming from Tommy.

1054
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 5: It was different for some reason.

1055
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: The only thing I would say about Scale and Tommy

1056
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: is Tommy would die. Tommy would get down with the

1057
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: ship like you kidding me, and then they would show

1058
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: the replay and it'd be like blatant, right, and he

1059
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: would just stay with it, like you know what. Scale

1060
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: sometimes will watch the replay and go okay, all right,

1061
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: he probably got him on the yard there.

1062
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 5: That's the only plus I would say for Scale.

1063
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: But I totally agree with you.

1064
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 5: He's trying to rip off Tommy.

1065
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Scale points, Yeah, I don't know, it's just like

1066
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 3: and I think if you did a poll of people

1067
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: who watched the local broadcast, most of most of the

1068
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: fans want that they want the home of view. They

1069
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: don't want objective, don't there's two things there too.

1070
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: Much Like I want for my local broadcast, I want

1071
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: homers I do. I want to listen to my team

1072
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: get excited when my team does well. That doesn't mean

1073
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: that I'm not calling what's going on on the game

1074
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 4: in the game. And Mike Goleman was great because he

1075
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: actually told you what was happening happening in the game

1076
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: when it was to me the heyday was Mike, Tommy

1077
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: and Bob Coozy. And when Kozy would tell you five

1078
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: minutes into the game, Bird and Company didn't come to

1079
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: play tonight. This game is going to go down a

1080
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: little Why because they were so good they could turn

1081
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 4: it on and off in the middle of a game.

1082
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: He'd tell you they're not they didn't come to play tonight.

1083
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: He wouldn't just.

1084
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: Say the referees have put them in a hole in

1085
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: the first quarter, which is what happens now.

1086
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know.

1087
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: And that's I don't mind. I want Jack Edwards' enthusiasm,

1088
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: but when the Bruins commit a penalty, I don't want

1089
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: it to be a bad call every time. He called

1090
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 4: the ref of coward the other night for being the

1091
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: first guy off the ice, like I don't.

1092
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 8: I just I didn't.

1093
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 4: I didn't appreciate it. I understand, so he's probably just

1094
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 4: like whatever, like tell me what's happening in the game,

1095
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 4: Like I don't mind that you're rooting for this. I'm

1096
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: rooting for the team, like I want the Bruins to win.

1097
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 6: But hopefully he gets to call a win because the

1098
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 6: way the Bruins look the other night, they are they're.

1099
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: Trying to blow out.

1100
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 5: I'm sorry you get like three shots and forty minutes.

1101
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 5: It's not the ref's fault that you lost the game.

1102
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: I swear to you. If if I have to listen

1103
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 5: to Doris Burke call another Celtics Playoffs series against the Sixers,

1104
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 5: I'll turn on the radio. I really like the horsebur She's.

1105
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: Better with play by play as than color. Like color,

1106
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: she feels obligated to say something after every play, like

1107
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: I agree with criticism.

1108
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: She has talk.

1109
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 9: The other day, I forget which game I was watching.

1110
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 9: I think it was either a Knicks game or maybe

1111
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 9: even the Bucks. But JJ Redick was in the booth wow,

1112
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 9: and Doris made a joke about like.

1113
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 10: Oh, they barely even guarded him.

1114
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 9: Looks like like JJ Reddick out there like as a joke.

1115
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 9: JJ did not take it as a joke. JJ was

1116
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 9: silent for the next five minutes until halftime, and then

1117
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 9: the other guy in the booth was like trying to

1118
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 9: get JJ to talk, but it was so awkward. JJ

1119
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 9: goes that was a little unnecessary. Right after she said

1120
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 9: that it was silent, I was like, oh no, I

1121
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 9: have secondhand like awkward.

1122
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 5: I can't do Doris. I just especially when they play

1123
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 5: the Sixers, Like if they're playing a different team, it's fine.

1124
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 5: But she grew up in like South Jersey and she's

1125
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 5: the biggest Joel Embiid fan on the planet.

1126
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 3: I've heard that criticism.

1127
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I I just Boston fans.

1128
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 5: Okay, well that's who the ones that are watching, Like

1129
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 5: all of.

1130
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: The national meanies are all rooting against your team.

1131
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 5: That's not about rooting against them. I just don't need

1132
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 5: to hear about how great.

1133
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 3: Power to bring it back to the Patriots. You know,

1134
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: during the game when we're covering the Patriots, I listen

1135
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: to the broadcast whenever I can, and I'm doing the

1136
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: blog and I hear people and it's amazing how right

1137
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: off the bat, Jim Nance hates the Patriots. Mike Tarico

1138
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: hates the Patriots, and I'm listening and I'm like, I'm

1139
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: not getting that, Like they're doing an okay job. They're

1140
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 3: not favoring and I get I would write, I would

1141
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 3: say more so, especially in the early you know, two thousands,

1142
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: if you were the fan of another team, he would say,

1143
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: Jim Nitz, all he talks about is the Patriots, I.

1144
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: Would definitely say, especially like the Color guys who loved

1145
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 4: Bill right like it was completely apparent that these guys

1146
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: are like bowing at the altar of it rightly. So

1147
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 4: the guy won six titles. I understand why they had

1148
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: such reverence for him, But I don't how you could

1149
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: come out of any of those national broadcasts and think

1150
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 4: people were rooting against Bill.

1151
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 3: Phil Simms hates the Patriots.

1152
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 5: You know, like it's like I don't know, you know,

1153
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 5: normally I I that does like I try not to

1154
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 5: do that, and it does bug me, but but it's

1155
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 5: it's clear as like day with Doris with the Sixers,

1156
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 5: Like I mean, every single time they set to play

1157
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 5: the Sixers in the.

1158
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: Playoffs, I'm probably not going to play the Sixers.

1159
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 5: Though, no, probably not. You We're lucky, we're saving ourselves

1160
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 5: from that.

1161
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 9: All that to say, we've had some like legendary like

1162
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 9: Jerry red Mey and Don Ricillo, Mike and Tommy Gil Santos.

1163
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 10: Like, yeah, legendary, we had it so.

1164
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 5: Good and Jerry, we we gotta let it go. With Donncillo,

1165
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 5: he's not walking through that door.

1166
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: What was the much better pair of Fred the guy

1167
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: before Sean McDonough and yeah.

1168
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 5: Like but it's all about Don cracking. They were great,

1169
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 5: like that was that was invented by.

1170
00:50:59,360 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: John Pearson.

1171
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 8: Well that's me. That's good.

1172
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 5: That was really good the only and I dare I

1173
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 5: don't want to speak for you, Alex, but I'm sure

1174
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 5: we're probably in the similar boat. She's a lot younger

1175
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 5: than you, don't kid. Donnacillo with the Red Sox obviously,

1176
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: Mike Gorman with the Celtics and Jack Edwards with the Bruins,

1177
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 5: Like those were the three people that that's well. I mean,

1178
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 5: Jack Everard's been doing it for nineteen years, so I'm

1179
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 5: only thirty.

1180
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: So like h Sean got a little bitter after he left. Yeah,

1181
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 4: he actually complained was stole my act?

1182
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 5: And he totally did. He sounded just like Sean who

1183
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: had better me just like I think they were both excellent.

1184
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 4: I think they were both excellent. I like Donald solo

1185
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 4: a lot. Now to Fred's point, not to the point

1186
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: where I'm going to wage a Twitter campaign to try.

1187
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 11: Right, like.

1188
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 5: The war camp.

1189
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 10: I was working for Nesson mind you.

1190
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 9: This was years after Don had gone to San Diego.

1191
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 9: I would write a Celtics article or like a Bruins article,

1192
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 9: and the comments would still be like, you guys.

1193
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 5: Got rid of Don, bring back and it was unreal. Yeah, good,

1194
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 5: good local announcer talk right there.

1195
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 8: We didn't even mention my namesake or my my likeness.

1196
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 7: I am.

1197
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's the national It's always a national crew for

1198
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 9: Fred Chusick was a pretty good play by play guy.

1199
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he had. I had nothing to compare it to.

1200
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 4: I was Derek Sanderson, Keys to the game, Skate Skate Skate,

1201
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: I was.

1202
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: I went to school with Derek Sanderson's son.

1203
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: But we're forgetting the best color guy for the Red Sox.

1204
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: He was the best.

1205
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 9: The best experience I ever had in my career was

1206
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 9: being a little Ness in intern and getting to watch

1207
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 9: games with E and like as funny as he was

1208
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 9: calling the games.

1209
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 10: The stuff he said in the room. Oh, I write

1210
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 10: a book.

1211
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 6: I love that man.

1212
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: Why did you like that so much?

1213
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: Just just this little quirky you know, look at that

1214
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: cheese and that one had hair on it, or you

1215
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: know the time that he would swear on air and

1216
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: then have to come back.

1217
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 4: After Dave Price has taken four minutes between pitches. He's

1218
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 4: telling you this guy's a clown. That's why he was

1219
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: the best.

1220
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 9: The best example of how beloved Ech was was when

1221
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 9: David Price and Eck had that little altercation on the plane,

1222
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 9: and instead of all of the fans standing by their

1223
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 9: star cy young pitcher, they said, hell, no x our

1224
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 9: guy and just the man, terrible.

1225
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 5: Baby, he has the cards now or whatever you know

1226
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 5: they want.

1227
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the phones. People are like,

1228
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: what are they talking about? Well, this is our show.

1229
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: We can talk about inside.

1230
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 5: We went over a lot of news.

1231
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to the ace ticket hut

1232
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: line eight five five past five hundred. Landed is in Virginia.

1233
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 3: What's up landing? You guys?

1234
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 13: Doing good?

1235
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 12: So first time caller. I never thought I'd have to

1236
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 12: call in until I heard read all all a Baby

1237
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 12: on live radio.

1238
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 17: I had to come to fall and talk about how

1239
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 17: I agree with him on how drafted Joe Milton could

1240
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 17: affect our third overall pick developments be I'm twenty two

1241
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 17: years old. This is the first time a quarterback has

1242
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 17: ever been younger than me, and to throw him into

1243
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 17: a position like that, if time's crazy when you're dealing

1244
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 17: with I love Patriots, I love our fan base.

1245
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 12: We're very uh, we're not very forgiving, and so I

1246
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 12: want to put our quarterback in the best position possible

1247
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 12: the defense.

1248
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 15: But I also had a question for you guys, at

1249
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 15: what point do you.

1250
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 12: Guys think we can evaluate Draws Elliott's draft class. We

1251
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 12: have to wait a year, two years, five years, wouldn't

1252
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 12: be going to be able to look back and say,

1253
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 12: how was their first draft at our GM and head coach?

1254
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, good question.

1255
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 8: I mean, thanks Landon, I mean training camp. I mean,

1256
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 8: I'm not with it. That's not the final evaluation.

1257
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 6: But I think right way, you're gonna know if these

1258
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 6: guys can play the receivers, and you know, you're gonna

1259
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 6: get a sense of Drake May right away. You're gonna

1260
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 6: get a sense of where these offensive linemen are in

1261
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 6: the depth chart.

1262
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 8: How much is Kayden Wall is he at left tackle?

1263
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 8: Is the starter?

1264
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: You know?

1265
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 6: I mean you can't make a final definitive judgment till

1266
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 6: a couple of years evaluation.

1267
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's different places and each of them have

1268
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: their own criteria, you know. But like you said, you

1269
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: can't make the final call, the definitive call until like

1270
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: two years, like if you.

1271
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 9: Had made the call about Mac after his first season

1272
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 9: compared to you know what I mean, Yeah.

1273
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: People did, and.

1274
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 5: If you want like the final pictures, I'm with Duce.

1275
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 5: I think that one of the biggest players require one

1276
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 5: of my biggest pet peeves is like, oh, you have

1277
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 5: to wait three years, and you know, when we get

1278
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 5: out there in training camp, especially for the skill player

1279
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 5: guys like Jalen Polk and Javon Baker, we're gonna know

1280
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 5: if those guys have got the juice or not, like

1281
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 5: pretty much right away, when when Javon Baker lines up

1282
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 5: against Christian Gonzales, can he get away from him or not?

1283
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 5: Like we're gonna be able to see that.

1284
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 4: I agree that's short extent, but I would say, you know,

1285
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 4: just as a point of recent comparison, during training camp,

1286
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 4: rookie year of Taekwon Thowton, I would have told you

1287
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 4: this guy has some of that that you were talking about. Yeah,

1288
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: I thought he was pretty good in his first camp.

1289
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: Never Never did I think he was pretty good when

1290
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 4: the game started.

1291
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think you have you need two years

1292
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 5: because of the MAC thing, Like you need to see

1293
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 5: how the when the league reacts, in the league adjusts,

1294
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 5: is he's still going to be good post adjustment and

1295
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 5: that usually takes at least a full year to be

1296
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 5: able to see him. At least one full year, but

1297
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 5: probably too.

1298
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 4: And like to Mike's point, I think there's a chance

1299
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 4: you might see Kayden Wallace at left tackle or even

1300
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 4: right tackle. You know, I brought that up before when

1301
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: you were still doing the interviews, like if if you

1302
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: see would it be stunning to see both Wallace and

1303
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 4: a core for a corps for it left and Wallace

1304
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 4: at right?

1305
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 8: I don't know, that's what.

1306
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 4: I'm not expecting that, but I mean I wouldn't be

1307
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: stunned to see it. Yeah, I mean that doesn't mean

1308
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 4: to me, that doesn't make it. It doesn't make it

1309
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 4: a good draft, right, like it means that he's better

1310
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 4: than Calvin Anderson and Connor McDermott who they cut.

1311
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I mean I think too.

1312
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 6: It's it's it's directly related to like what they need,

1313
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 6: you know. It's like if they have in the key spots,

1314
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 6: like you know, if the guard Robinson doesn't work out,

1315
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 6: it's not.

1316
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 8: That big a deal. But you know Wallace the receivers.

1317
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 6: I mean then, I mean, I'm thinking back to seeing

1318
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 6: to Kill Harry in training camp, seeing Cole Strange in

1319
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 6: one on ones in training camp as a rookie, and

1320
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 6: you know, you got bad juju vibes out of those

1321
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 6: juju not juj, but you got bad vibes kind of

1322
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 6: out of the gate of like is this guy can

1323
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 6: this guy play? Because he like, you know, I mean,

1324
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 6: Nikil Harry looked great from like the point he walked

1325
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 6: to the top of the stairs to the sideline and

1326
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 6: then it's just started, right.

1327
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: I was like this close to callin Nikill Harry a

1328
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: bust and OTAs before his rookie training camp, and it's crazy,

1329
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 4: you know, it's like, well, let's wait, let's wait, because

1330
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 4: Fred wasn't overly impressed either, but like you know, he's

1331
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: a rookie, first round pick. You want to give him

1332
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 4: a chance. Like you want to give him a chance,

1333
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: but you know, kind of back full cracle to our

1334
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: announcer category. If you're tell it everybody, then everybody's great,

1335
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: and then they actually see them play and they're not great,

1336
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 4: then what does.

1337
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: That make you? Anybody have an example of someone who, uh,

1338
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: we thought was a bust but then ended up not being.

1339
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: Huh, that's a good question, because I have a million

1340
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: the other.

1341
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, a million the other way. But someone this

1342
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: guy can't play and then all of a sudden he

1343
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: surprised everybody.

1344
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 8: I'm struggling. Yeah, I'm trying to so the closest I

1345
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 8: can come.

1346
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't say bust because he was like a

1347
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: third round pick, but like Anthony Jennings, I thought on

1348
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 4: the way out of town, Yeah, yeah, he couldn't get

1349
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 4: on the field. When he did get on the field,

1350
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: he didn't do anything. Yep, And all of a sudden

1351
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: he got a you know, his first real extended opportunity

1352
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 4: last year, and I thought he played really well.

1353
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: That's a good example.

1354
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, late bloomers like that, Yeah.

1355
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: Late bloomers.

1356
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 6: I'll still think about that. But just one other point

1357
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 6: I want to make was like with and when you

1358
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 6: like you kind of knew right out of the gate,

1359
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 6: this guy's involved, like they're getting him at right guard,

1360
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 6: they're getting him at right tackle, like he's in there

1361
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 6: a lot like.

1362
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 4: You put you right out of the gate. This guy's

1363
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 4: going to play, yes, you don't know out of the

1364
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: gate is he going to play well?

1365
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1366
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: And then that's that's all you got.

1367
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 8: That's my thing.

1368
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 4: And I say this to Fred all the time. They

1369
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 4: always tell you when it doesn't look good for a guy,

1370
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: you can't to Evan's point, you can't evaluate you need,

1371
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 4: you need three years. Can't evaluate these guys. But God

1372
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: help us if a guy looks good. On September seventh,

1373
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 4: mailed it what a draft pick? Like, nothing can change,

1374
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: Nothing can change. And I'm telling you there's a lot

1375
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 4: of guys that look good out of the gate. Chad

1376
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 4: Jackson looked unbelievable out of the gate, never did really

1377
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 4: anything for the paper.

1378
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 6: I think to it's it's like situational because you know

1379
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 6: the positions of need and you know when you just

1380
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 6: see the coaches are giving a guy a chance, like

1381
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 6: it's hard to know. Are they putting him in there

1382
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 6: to see how he plays with the around the other ones.

1383
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 6: We're not sure if this guy is really talented. Let's

1384
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 6: put him with the ones and see how he kind

1385
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 6: of looks out. Is he moving, you know, at the

1386
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 6: same speed as those guys, or you know, is this

1387
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 6: somebody that we really see potential in and and you

1388
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 6: know we think he's Malcolm Butler.

1389
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, Malcolm Butler was one of

1390
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 4: those guys that right away in ot A as you

1391
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 4: saw them like with regular players, and you're like, they

1392
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: have they have some confidence in this guy.

1393
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: Hey, joining us right now on the WebEx Cisco line

1394
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: is Mike Reese from ESPN. Hey Mike, what's up?

1395
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 5: Fred?

1396
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: Hey Paul?

1397
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 4: What's up again?

1398
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1399
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 5: Cubicles?

1400
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: Are you in the building forever?

1401
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 4: Oh, you're right here. I wanted the field. Yates had

1402
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 4: a nice like bookcase behind him. He's rich May that's the.

1403
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 5: Stadium.

1404
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 3: Mike. I know we've got you on a laptop and

1405
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: what you see is not what everybody else is seeing.

1406
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: So just so you know that but In We've got

1407
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 3: Deuce here, We've got Alex, We've got Evan, Paul myself.

1408
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 3: So thanks for joining us. What's up? How you doing?

1409
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: How's your uh off season been so far?

1410
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 14: Everything is great, Alex. I'm so happy you're in there.

1411
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 14: I didn't see you when I was looking at the screen.

1412
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 11: So awesome.

1413
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 14: N everything is great, Fred, it's been it's been a

1414
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 14: great off season. And I want to tell you yesterday

1415
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 14: was a great day and just seeing Alex made me

1416
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 14: think of it. I was down in Providence with six

1417
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 14: players and it was really a very meaningful thing.

1418
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 7: You know.

1419
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 14: I know we're going to talk a lot about the football,

1420
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 14: but I went down there because the team had They

1421
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 14: were working with this Foster Forward or Not, you know,

1422
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 14: nonprofit organization that set up three apartment units for three

1423
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 14: youth that are aging out of foster care. And Fred

1424
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 14: it was like an amazing building that they put together,

1425
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 14: and with the Patriots being down there, it brought a

1426
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 14: lot of media and and I was sort of uplifted

1427
01:01:59,200 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 14: by being there.

1428
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: It was really cool to see.

1429
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: That's cool. And Mike, you you've always been really good

1430
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 3: at covering those events, one because you know they're nice

1431
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: events and like you said, uplifting, but you're also smart

1432
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 3: because those are times where you get to know the

1433
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: players a little bit differently.

1434
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: Freddie Adam so Jacoby.

1435
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 14: I hadn't seen him since he got traded in twenty seventeen.

1436
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: And he looked at me and he goes, you look

1437
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: the same.

1438
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 14: And I said, Jacoby, that's like the biggest compliment you

1439
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 14: can give me right now, like, because I.

1440
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: Don't feel the same. I feel old, I'm tired.

1441
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 3: My go ahead.

1442
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 2: Oh.

1443
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 8: I was just gonna ask you, Mike.

1444
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 5: You know you were here.

1445
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 6: You've been covering this team since, you know, the late nineties.

1446
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 6: I know you got your start with Fred, but so

1447
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 6: much has changed this year, and just what has it

1448
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 6: been like from your perspective, the shift from kind of

1449
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 6: how things had been now to Gerard and the energy

1450
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 6: around the team. Just from your perspective talking to the fans,

1451
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 6: I mean, you're so plugged in. What's that experience been

1452
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 6: like from you as the whole culture's kind of shifted

1453
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 6: here in Foxboro?

1454
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 14: So just start with starting with Fred, because I was

1455
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 14: reflecting on that recently, nineteen ninety seven first ever game

1456
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 14: deuce preseason lambeau Field. Oh my gosh, like like think

1457
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 14: about that, Oh, it's your your first job out of college,

1458
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 14: and just go go cover a preseason game at lambeau

1459
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 14: Field and Fred said to me.

1460
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: Fred, I don't know if you remember this.

1461
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 5: You had your little camera with you.

1462
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: Get down on one knee, Mike, and just just say

1463
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: something about the game.

1464
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: I remember the old postgame shows.

1465
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, the best, the best.

1466
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 14: So I was reflecting on that, and I think in

1467
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 14: a lot of ways, Mike, like, I'm trying to just

1468
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 14: keep an open mind this offseason, because you get used

1469
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 14: to something for twenty four years and it's you know,

1470
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 14: sometimes you get thinking like that's the only way to

1471
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 14: do something, you know, and it was so successful that

1472
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 14: it's like I can it's normal to think that way.

1473
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 14: So as I'm older now, Mike, so like, I'm trying

1474
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 14: to keep an open mind to say, Okay, don't judge

1475
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 14: what's happening as much as just let it unfold and

1476
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 14: report on what's happening, if that makes sense.

1477
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: It feels more open. It feels a little I.

1478
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 14: Don't want to use the word looser, but just like

1479
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 14: like a little bit of like everyone took an exhale

1480
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 14: and it's sort of like, Okay, let's let's move this

1481
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 14: forward and try something a little different.

1482
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Mike. We can read what you had to say

1483
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 3: about the draft on ESPN. So I don't want to

1484
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: really get into like, you know, how do you think

1485
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: this guy is going to do? And so on. But

1486
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: in terms of one of the conversations that's going on

1487
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: now is do you play Drake May right away? Or

1488
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 3: you know, no matter what, do you let do you

1489
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: have him sit at least for some of the season.

1490
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 3: Are you in a camp or on that on that take.

1491
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 14: I'm in a total camp of let it play itself out,

1492
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 14: for like, I don't understand why anyone would have to

1493
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 14: be like he has to play. And actually someone at

1494
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 14: ESPN texted me that today he's the number three pick.

1495
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 14: He has to play, and I said, I guess I'm

1496
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 14: in the other camp of it will we will know

1497
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 14: based on what we see, Yeah, and by by setting

1498
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 14: like a declarative like it.

1499
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 5: Has to be this.

1500
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: I just I don't understand that.

1501
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is also the camp that says he

1502
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: has to sit and I don't agree with that either. Yeah,

1503
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: me neither.

1504
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 11: Friend.

1505
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 14: So, but so here's my question to all of you,

1506
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 14: like why, like why I understand we have debate and

1507
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 14: we have to feel like airtime, but why do we

1508
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 14: have to like say that it has to happen. Why

1509
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 14: can't we let it play itself out and whatever happens

1510
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 14: on the field dictates the decision, Like I guess I

1511
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 14: don't understand.

1512
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 3: Someone enlighten me.

1513
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's a great point because if you go

1514
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: back to twenty twenty one, I don't think anybody was

1515
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: spending this saying.

1516
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 5: Mac Jones has to play, he has to be the starter.

1517
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: You couldn't have had much worse quarterback play the year

1518
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 4: before with Cam Newton. So I don't remember everybody just

1519
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 4: saying definitively yeah, but like the fifteenth overall pick has

1520
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 4: to play, but the third overall pick has to play.

1521
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 4: Like to Mike's point, let the process play out.

1522
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 5: He and I usually locks down. I don't know if

1523
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 5: you know, it's the best part of the award.

1524
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 6: And that's what you're telling.

1525
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,479
Speaker 3: And here's the thing with Mac. With Mac, had he sat,

1526
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 3: do you think it would have made a difference, Like

1527
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: if he had sat behind Cam Newton for half the

1528
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 3: season or even a season, do you think it would

1529
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: have helped Mac Jones?

1530
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 15: No?

1531
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 14: I fred I personally thought like at that point, like

1532
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 14: it was so clear to everyone that was at practice

1533
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 14: that he gave him the best chance to win.

1534
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: So I think it would have hurt the team if

1535
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: he sat.

1536
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Speaker 3: Definitely would have hurt the team.

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01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, explain your reason, because this is something we

1538
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 4: did talk about on the show about how the the

1539
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 4: like the sort of a message that gets sent.

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01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 14: So if you're so to me, Paul, like, if you're

1541
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 14: sending a message that it's all about competition and the

1542
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 14: best players will play, and it's it was so remember

1543
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 14: when Mack had that practice against the Giants. Yep, it

1544
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 14: was so obvious at that point that it was the

1545
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 14: offense was running a certain way with Mac that it

1546
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 14: wasn't with Cam that I felt like Coach Belichick owed

1547
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 14: it to the team to play Mac because if he didn't,

1548
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 14: what message was he sending to the players, We're going

1549
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 14: to play a quarterback that.

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01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: Doesn't give us the best chance to win. But it's

1551
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna focus.

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 14: Here on the development of one player over what gives

1553
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 14: the team the best chance to win. It's a balance, obviously,

1554
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 14: but when it was, if it's that decisive, I think

1555
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 14: you just let let that decision play itself out by

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01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 14: what happens on the field. And if it's like this, so,

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 14: how about this, would Jacoby and Drake? If it's close

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 14: who Jacoby right?

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01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: That can't hurt.

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01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 14: Drake will probably have to be that much better than

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 14: Jacoby to get the nod, just because it makes sense to.

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01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: Play it a little safe. Yeah, you know, if does

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01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: that make that that's.

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01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 3: Sort of my view. Yeah, So I'm not going to

1565
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: go run down the draft. But other than Drake, who

1566
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 3: was your favorite pick for the Patriots or who's the

1567
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 3: guy that you're most intrigued about seeing?

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Speaker 2: So I went with the last one, Fred Bell, the

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01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 2: tight end jahem Bell?

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Speaker 3: Did I say it right? Evan?

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01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good answer, all right, And here's why.

1572
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,839
Speaker 2: So I have to be honest.

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01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 14: I don't study the players as close as Evan does,

1574
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 14: So I have to stay within what I feel most

1575
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 14: comfortable in my wheelhouse.

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01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: And I look at opportunity based on the roster.

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01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 14: So Hunter Henry, we know he's going to be there

1578
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 14: at tight end, Austin Hooper pretty good, Betty's going to

1579
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 14: be there behind him at tight end.

1580
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 2: So I look at like there's a spot behind those two.

1581
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: If Bell can do.

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01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 14: Sort of what he did last season, catch and run

1583
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 14: short and intermediate roads, and so I like the opportunity

1584
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 14: in this, you know, for him there, and I think

1585
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 14: he's sort of a different maybe type of tight end,

1586
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 14: sort of a not necessarily an inline guy and maybe

1587
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 14: fits well with what Alex van Pelt and the Browns

1588
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 14: have done with their tight ends.

1589
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, absolutely, I think that he has the most

1590
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 5: explosiveness out of the group, definitely on I mean, Hunter

1591
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 5: Henry's mister reliable, mister steady, but there's no doubt that

1592
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 5: Jahim Bell is the best athlete in that room right now. Mike,

1593
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you about Elliott Wolf's future and

1594
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 5: just your read on you know, are they going to

1595
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 5: interview people to maybe be an official general manager or

1596
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 5: above him even on the totem pole, And do you

1597
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 5: think that he there's a chance that he's given the

1598
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 5: title after this offseason?

1599
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 14: So my read is that and I don't know this

1600
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 14: for sure, Evan, but I assume he's just going to

1601
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 14: continue in his role. And if this was sort of

1602
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:08,799
Speaker 14: like a trial run for Robert Kraft to feel comfortable

1603
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 14: with it, I think he did a good job and

1604
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 14: he continues to do a good job in terms of

1605
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 14: these resignings that we're seeing.

1606
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: So if there are interviews. To me, it would be

1607
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 2: to compliment.

1608
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 14: Elliott Wolfe, Matt grow Alonso high Smith, Patrick Stewart continue.

1609
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 14: I don't want to leave anyone out, but you get

1610
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 14: my point. I believe that the structure they have will

1611
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 14: stay in place. But I am and I don't think

1612
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 14: it'll be like a general manager title unless I'm way

1613
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 14: off on that.

1614
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: It would be maybe like a vice president.

1615
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 14: Of player personnel, which is if I recall what it

1616
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 14: was with Bobby Greer back in the late nineties, when

1617
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 14: Pete Carroll was coach, what Scott Pioli was, what Nick

1618
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 14: Cassari was, did I and check me all of you

1619
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 14: if I'm wrong on that.

1620
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 3: But no, there's no one. I mean, we know Bill was,

1621
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 3: but there was no one since I've been here that

1622
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 3: has had the title of general manager.

1623
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would argue that that title is higher than

1624
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: the general manager. But I wanted to ask you something

1625
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 4: that we were talking about earlier in the show, Mike

1626
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 4: about the cap space the Patriots. I think Miguel has

1627
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 4: it at around fifty million of cap space. Do you

1628
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 4: anticipate the Patriots using much of that? I mean, obviously

1629
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 4: there'll be expenses that are incurred to take up some

1630
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 4: of that. But in other words, is there another maybe

1631
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 4: big money extension that's possible between now in training camp or.

1632
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 3: Portrayed on resigning or something. Yeah, I like the thought

1633
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 3: I was.

1634
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 14: We talked to Ramandre Stevenson two days ago and he

1635
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 14: talked about it. I know running backs aren't like necessarily

1636
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 14: the biggest ticket items. He would be one that comes

1637
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 14: to mind that could use some of that space, But

1638
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 14: I Paul, off the top of my head, I can't

1639
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 14: think of anything that would use a significant chunk as

1640
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 14: much as just like good to have the flexibility, right,

1641
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 14: opportunity presents itself in a trade that you have the

1642
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 14: flexibility to do that. I'm curious with all of you, like,

1643
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 14: are you thinking of something or am I missing something

1644
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 14: with another player on the roster.

1645
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 2: No?

1646
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you kind of batted it around, and I don't think.

1647
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 4: I don't think any of us really envisions a big

1648
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 4: ticket item coming available now. The obvious one as a

1649
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 4: possibility would be one of the veteran wide receivers, you know,

1650
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 4: a T. Higgins or a Brandon Ayuk, and then you

1651
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 4: acquire them and give them a big, you know, a

1652
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 4: big contract.

1653
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 5: But I don't really think any of us envisions that.

1654
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 3: I can't think of anything, But I think an opportunity

1655
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 3: will present itself, and I think I think they will

1656
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: if they have an if they have a chance, they'll

1657
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 3: they'll they'll take you know, they'll do it.

1658
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder if it's a you know, there's still

1659
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 5: some veteran defensive players in free agency that didn't sign

1660
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 5: before the draft. You know, Stefan Gilmore is obviously the

1661
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 5: biggest name. I think Justin Simmons is still out there too,

1662
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken. But you know, Mike, do you

1663
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 5: have any indication at all if if Gilmore would be

1664
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 5: open to a reunion with the Patriots. And I don't

1665
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 5: know if you know about his relationship with Gerard at all.

1666
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 14: You know, so so not too much Evan, And I

1667
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 14: think I'm thinking about the position off the top of

1668
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 14: my head. I mean, they possibly could use a little

1669
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 14: help there, my gut. Evan tells me that they'd like

1670
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 14: to see the young kids first before and so I

1671
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 14: think timing wise, I wouldn't sense like anything like right now.

1672
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 14: But I I you know, Stefan, I think I don't

1673
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 14: think like this would be like a door closed type thing.

1674
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 14: But he's a very shrewd in my opinion, businessman, So

1675
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 14: I don't think it would be like I want to

1676
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 14: come back on a short money deal. Like I think

1677
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 14: he's going to be out there looking for a significant deal.

1678
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 14: And if ultimately the Patriots like, like, let's be honest,

1679
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 14: you know, like Christian Gonzalez incredibly promising, but I mean

1680
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 14: he did get hurt right in the fourth game of

1681
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 14: his career the depth.

1682
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 3: Mike, I just got a text from p R you

1683
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 3: wanted elsewhere. You have something coming up in a couple

1684
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: of minutes the room.

1685
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 5: They need room, Mike, So I'm.

1686
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 3: Gonna let you go, but I appreciate you coming on

1687
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 3: and always always a pleasure to talk to. Mike g Reese.

1688
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: Awesome, all right, thanks for having.

1689
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 3: Me, Mike, Mike, all right.

1690
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 5: I always tell you.

1691
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 4: My favorite Mike Greece story is the day that I

1692
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 4: because I was hired to replace Mike Reese here, good job,

1693
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 4: and you know Fred the Kingmaker Pete Carroll was the

1694
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 4: coach at the time, and Brian Moorey introduced me to

1695
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 4: Pete and he said he's replacing Mike, and he goes,

1696
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 4: whoa big shoes to Phil.

1697
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 5: Then he goes, well, actually, but but welcome.

1698
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 6: But that's and that's Mike Reese two years out of college,

1699
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 6: Like that's his He established.

1700
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 4: That relationship professionalism even at that two years. That's why

1701
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 4: I tell the story not to take a crack at

1702
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 4: Mike being small, but more so that the respect the

1703
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 4: head coach had all around.

1704
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure probably twenty four years old.

1705
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 4: She's pretty sure when Andy Hart left in twenty twenty,

1706
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 4: they didn't go to Mike do so and say, oh, Bill,

1707
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 4: Bill Belchieivisor's advisor to film, and he would be like,

1708
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 4: oh that hurts.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's stings.

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Speaker 6: But after a head size and I feel like maybe

1711
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Speaker 6: I could fill it.

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Speaker 10: Your head size is the angle.

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Speaker 18: always were, start off with some trivia. I got some

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Speaker 18: good stuff today, Chris. Don't answer it, all right, I might.

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Speaker 18: Question one, when was the last time the Patriots wore

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Speaker 18: week the year, opponent?

1751
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: All right? Question two?

1752
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 18: Who caught Vinny Testaverde's only career touchdown passes the New

1753
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 18: England Patriot? Probably don't even know.

1754
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 1: What that is?

1755
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 18: And question number three, how many rushing yards did Fred

1756
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 18: Taylor have.

1757
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: As a New England Patriot? All Right, you probably don't

1758
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 3: even know what that.

1759
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 11: Is either, Fred Taylor?

1760
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all right, Bill's guy.

1761
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get into it. Let's get it. Let's get

1762
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: into it. Let's get into it.

1763
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 18: Jack's guy, all right, okay, alright, right, So so so, Chris,

1764
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 18: there's been a while since we've done some of these

1765
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 18: because it's been kind of busy here a little bit.

1766
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, we had the draft, we did.

1767
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 18: We did Yeah, saw A class the first of the

1768
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 18: Mayo Mayo Elliott wolf Era. But no, we're gonna do

1769
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 18: a little breakdown on our end what we think of

1770
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 18: the draft, we think of the picks, and so Chris,

1771
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 18: what do you think?

1772
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: Just like quick grade overall quick grade?

1773
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, before I give the grade to say, I think

1774
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 11: they hit all the pieces that they needed. Okay, were

1775
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 11: they the right pieces, we don't know yet for sure,

1776
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 11: but overall I would give him around a B plus

1777
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 11: A minus.

1778
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going I was going B B plus.

1779
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 18: Listen, I think the may pick was needed, it was

1780
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 18: the gat, it was the right pick, and the way

1781
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 18: the board played out, I think they're very smart they

1782
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 18: didn't trade that pick. I mean, you were on the

1783
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 18: draft countdown, we're talking about potentially, you know, getting a

1784
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 18: haul from the Vikings and trading back. But I mean,

1785
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 18: look what happened to the Raiders. Like Pennix went super early.

1786
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 18: He wasn't gonna be there in the second round.

1787
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 11: I mean that Penis pick is still nuts.

1788
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 18: But you could we could go into a whole thing

1789
01:18:55,280 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 18: about that too. But listen, I personally a little not

1790
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,799
Speaker 18: disappointed because the pick needed to be done. The Caden

1791
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 18: Walls and Leyden Robinson pick. They needed to be done.

1792
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 18: I just think there were some really good players on

1793
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 18: the board that you missed that, like, like, you know,

1794
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 18: we we took the tackle, but you know you had

1795
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 18: Roman Wilson there, you had the other tackle from Pittsburgh,

1796
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 18: addas at Isaac the defensive end, and you know, I

1797
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 18: just feel, like Evan mentioned it, there was a top

1798
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 18: tier line of tackles and I think we missed out

1799
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 18: in a couple. So I hope Wallace works out. And

1800
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 18: then also with Polk, I listen, he's very good, and

1801
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 18: it's tough because you know, you had all the shiny

1802
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 18: toys there, Adie Mitchell, Roman Wilson as mentioned earlier, and

1803
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 18: I guess Polk was hiding a lot of people's boards.

1804
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 3: The Nutburn Baker. The Baker pick made the Polk pick

1805
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 3: feel better.

1806
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: I agree.

1807
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 11: I think I was just about to pick your back

1808
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 11: off of the pole comment that you just made. But

1809
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 11: I think that Javon Baker picked by the Pats in

1810
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 11: the fourth round, by the way, their second fourth round pick,

1811
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 11: which was even the kind of it was really piggybacked.

1812
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 11: I mean I already use that term picking back of

1813
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 11: for you, but that it was a huge ad with

1814
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 11: the Jalen Polk pick, just because kind of counter one another.

1815
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 11: And also, I mean, whoever's playing quarterback this upcoming season,

1816
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 11: they have weapons around them and they haven't really had

1817
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 11: that deep ball threat. Both of these guys are deep

1818
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 11: deep ball threats. Jalen Polk especially, I mean one of

1819
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 11: the better contested catch players in college.

1820
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 5: Football last year.

1821
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 11: So these both of these editions were huge for the team. Yeah,

1822
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 11: and again, I think that Jayvon Baker pick was high

1823
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 11: on everybody's boards here in New England.

1824
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 3: And I mean I haven't got up draft guys, ivn't

1825
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 3: got up.

1826
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 11: I haven't seen a remotion. I haven't seen a reaction

1827
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 11: like that before. And it was pretty funny and so

1828
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 11: Evan was pumped.

1829
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 18: It also shows that they were you know, it's been

1830
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 18: a last since we had at true receive over here.

1831
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 18: I mean they reportedly made like tried make a move

1832
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 18: for Xavier l Get and key On Coleman, who I

1833
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 18: know Evan wasn't high on key On Coleman, but.

1834
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 3: I've already come to terms that since he's not here,

1835
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a superstar. Yeah, that's just how That's

1836
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 3: just how you.

1837
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 11: Were saying forever that you thought is going to be

1838
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 11: a bust.

1839
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 3: Was Evan talked my ear in my ear, he got

1840
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: on my ear, and I, you know, I hope he is.

1841
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 11: I've been I've been pretty high on Keon for the

1842
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 11: most part, but I he scares me a little bit

1843
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 11: in the sense that he's very Harry esque. Yeah, and

1844
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 11: I mean he's serviceable, but when he a league, you

1845
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 11: don't know how he's gonna fully adjust the Bills. The

1846
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 11: Bills kind of made a move for him, essentially.

1847
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 18: It's funny because we talk about we talked about all

1848
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 18: these receivers, and I honestly don't think we mentioned Polk.

1849
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 18: I mean, Evan Deduce like wrote about him, but like

1850
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 18: in the Draft Countdown podcast, we didn't really talk about him.

1851
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 18: And then you like look at his tape and he's

1852
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 18: he's solid. You're just like overshadowed by Roma Dunde, who's

1853
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 18: a beast.

1854
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 11: Yeah. I think Evan had him in his uh. I

1855
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 11: think it was his twelve spot. Yeah, was this twelfth

1856
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 11: receiver on On in the draft and kind of in

1857
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 11: that second tier of guys aside from the Parrison's neighbors.

1858
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 11: And yeah, Brian Thomas's and everybody else up there. But

1859
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 11: he was in that second tier. And I mean, to

1860
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 11: Evan's credit, he was. He wasn't one hundred percent on it,

1861
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 11: but he was. He was kind of there with what

1862
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 11: he was writing. And I mean, our guys really did

1863
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 11: a pretty good job of keeping track of the guys

1864
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 11: that the Patriots were interested in this year.

1865
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 18: So another guy I wanted to talk about, and it

1866
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 18: would have been a luxury pick, Jatavian Sanders.

1867
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 3: I think that was a potential miss.

1868
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1869
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 18: I mean he just kept dropping just the way the

1870
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 18: board was playing out. I mean, he actually was taking

1871
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 18: two picks before Leyden Robinson and then you know, we

1872
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 18: got a tight end in the seventh. But yeah, there

1873
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 18: were beasts.

1874
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 11: There were two tight ends that I personally felt the

1875
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 11: Patriots could take that weren't going to be in that

1876
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 11: first year of tight ends. Uh, And it was Jatavian

1877
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 11: Sanders and Jaheem Bell. I thought Jaheene Bell had a

1878
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 11: really good career at South Carolina before coming over to

1879
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 11: Florida State. By the way, Marcel Style and Yeah Dreams

1880
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 11: teammates teammates back in South Carolina in twenty twenty two.

1881
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 11: But when jahaem Bel made the switch to Florida State.

1882
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 11: I mean really, he became that number one tight end

1883
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 11: on a college football team and that was a big

1884
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 11: thing for him. And he flourished at Florida State. He

1885
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 11: was great. So you know, he's really a bigger guy.

1886
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 11: He can get get targets and he's also a pretty

1887
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 11: good run blocker. So the overall really solid pick for

1888
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 11: the Patriots, something that they needed. And between those two guys,

1889
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 11: he was one of the two that I felt they

1890
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 11: could take and they got him.

1891
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 18: So let's go into one more thing, and it was

1892
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 18: a big thing on the filth third, Joe Milton, what

1893
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 18: are your thoughts like that liston We Got It Machine.

1894
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 3: He's a beast.

1895
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 18: I think he's a great player or like a great athlete.

1896
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 18: He's a great quarterback. And you know, I'm I'm not

1897
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 18: in on ZAPPI nice kid, I'm sure.

1898
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,839
Speaker 11: But he's great. I love love Bailey Zappy.

1899
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 18: I'm more at the thing, yeah, the Avon and Paul thing,

1900
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 18: which is like, you know, he's gonna look great and

1901
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 18: T shirts and a short. He's gonna throw a bomb

1902
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 18: to Baker this summer. And you know, Drake May might

1903
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 18: have some growing pains and stuff like that. And then

1904
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 18: you got the twenty four year old freak athlete who's

1905
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 18: gonna throw a deep ball and THENTO a backflip.

1906
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 11: That's so what's interesting about Joe Milton? And again we

1907
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 11: mentioned we already mentioned Bailly Zappy. It's kind of tough.

1908
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 11: He was released last season and uh, you know he

1909
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 11: after being released last season was picked back up by

1910
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 11: the Patriots. But Joe Milton, he's somebody that you know

1911
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 11: has similar issues to Drake kind of pocking mobility is

1912
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 11: not quite there. Yeah, but I mean he he has

1913
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 11: ability to be the interesting quarterback backup possibly in this NFL.

1914
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 3: So I'm Milton over Zappy for backup.

1915
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 11: I don't know if he's I think kent with.

1916
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 3: It, because what kind of athlete doesn't want to go

1917
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 3: for the starting job.

1918
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 11: Your three quarterbacks? But sorry, Milton, May and Versette this

1919
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 11: season we share a birthday.

1920
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 3: There you go, all right, Chris, thanks for joining.

1921
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,040
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1928
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1929
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Speaker 5: What's the Top Golf situation?

1930
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Speaker 8: Tuesday?

1931
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Speaker 3: Tuesday night, you're going to play Top Golf? Thanks for

1932
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 3: inviting me.

1933
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 4: Oh, it's actually for Mike's brother.

1934
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 8: It's for my brother in law.

1935
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 6: Wanted nothing more pha he's out. He wanted nothing cameo, Yeah,

1936
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Speaker 6: they want. He wanted nothing more than a cameo from

1937
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 6: Hardy for our family secret.

1938
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1939
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 10: I didn't see the video, but he told me the story.

1940
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 8: Oh, and I have a video of my brother in

1941
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 8: law opening.

1942
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 6: So Hardy was like, well, why don't we just go

1943
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 6: to Top Golf cut my brother than Lockolf's And so

1944
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 6: I had the video of course, o'hardy. But then I

1945
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 6: took a video of my brother in law opening it

1946
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 6: and like you've never seen anyone more excited, And like

1947
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Speaker 6: when you.

1948
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 3: Heard Parrillo's gonna be there too, Oh, let's go.

1949
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 6: He's from southeast Like yeah, he get so excited.

1950
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 4: They love you, not like Hardy. You should have seen it.

1951
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 4: It was like Brady gave him the cameo when he

1952
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 4: found out.

1953
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Speaker 10: It's like a thirteen year old open like Taylor Swift

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Speaker 10: Tickets under the tree.

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1964
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Speaker 3: the way it looks now in August, I'd be upset.

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1966
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 3: green and showers.

1967
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 5: You have no water down on your your mats.

1968
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 3: What do you mean water? No sprink I could put

1969
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 3: my own sprinkler. You know, I could water, But you know,

1970
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 3: but you're to August, and it's like you feel guilty.

1971
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying is you don't have

1972
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 4: any I don't have irrigation.

1973
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't have an irrigation system.

1974
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 5: We do and my dad, not me, but my parents

1975
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 5: house does. And like my dad's obsessed with technology, so

1976
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 5: he's like always on the freaking phone app like playing with.

1977
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 11: It and stuff.

1978
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 5: It's like I don't want the sprinklers to turn on

1979
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 5: when I get home because then I'll And I'm just like, okay, mister,

1980
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 5: go go gadget over here.

1981
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 8: That's fun.

1982
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: But like everybody's grass looks great, now mine doesn't.

1983
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 5: It looks like c really I agree for even mine

1984
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 5: looks good.

1985
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 6: I gotta do some weeding, I like, I just it's

1986
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 6: it's a life project of mine with the lawn.

1987
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 4: But yeah, I have some minor issues in the back,

1988
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 4: the rabbits that lived back there.

1989
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 8: But you got the Japanese not weed. It's just this.

1990
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 4: It's a nice you got the Japanese little trivia.

1991
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 3: Anybody ready, let's go.

1992
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 8: It's an Invasi's plant. It's invasive, Paul, It's a big problem.

1993
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 3: What is the last time the Patriots wore their silver

1994
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 3: alternate jersey?

1995
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 14: Oh?

1996
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 8: I helped him rite anything the opponent in.

1997
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 5: Their silver alternate jersey.

1998
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 6: All right, we don't know that was Cowboys, No, but

1999
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 6: it's Buffalo seven, right, Buffalo seven.

2000
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 5: I was literally just about to say Buffalo and you

2001
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 5: jumped all.

2002
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,759
Speaker 3: Over seven and they should Those are awful.

2003
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:39,520
Speaker 5: I did have time. I apologize.

2004
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 3: Who caught Vinnie Testaverdi's only career touchdown pass as a

2005
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 3: New England Patriot?

2006
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 4: Christian Fourier incorrect?

2007
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 5: Daniel Graham incorrect. I don't even think they play it together.

2008
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: Answer is Troy Brown.

2009
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 5: I knew it was one of those.

2010
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 8: I remember.

2011
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 4: I thought that was something about four being an answer

2012
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 4: to a trivia question.

2013
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 3: Oh, with that over, finally, how many rushing yards did

2014
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: Fred Taylor have as a New England Patriot?

2015
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 11: Oh?

2016
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 8: Boy, it's like two or three games. I'm going to

2017
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 8: say four hundred and thirty eight.

2018
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 3: You would be wrong.

2019
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 5: Two hundred and seventeen.

2020
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 3: Incorrect, one hundred and eleven, one hundred and fifty five.

2021
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 8: Fifty five.

2022
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 6: I remember, like, I think it might have been against

2023
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 6: the Jets that he was because he was I mean,

2024
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 6: he probably maybe dressed for two games, but there was

2025
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 6: one game at the Jets.

2026
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 8: I guess it was ten or nine that.

2027
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 6: That he had the he had like a really nice run.

2028
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 6: I remember it got called back for a penalty. And

2029
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 6: this is the weird things to stick in your brain

2030
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 6: and like, oh Fred Taylor, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you see

2031
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 6: how it works, and then we never saw him again.

2032
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2033
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 5: Speaking of running backs, I have a question for the group.

2034
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 5: You guys want to give Rimandre a second contract?

2035
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 3: No, it would have to be very very team friendly,

2036
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 3: you know, coming off an injury right now and running

2037
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 3: back and you know the way they go through right

2038
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 3: backs here and it doesn't seem to hurt them.

2039
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't give him an extension now, but after the year,

2040
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 4: I would let him explode the market and take him

2041
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 4: back on a friend.

2042
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,600
Speaker 6: Can I throw a question back at you? No, I

2043
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 6: just to looking at the running back depth chart. I mean,

2044
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 6: considering what they want to, you know, probably do with

2045
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 6: the wide zone. Do you feel like they have the

2046
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 6: horses right now? I mean it's Stevenson and Gibson and

2047
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 6: then a whole lot of math. I mean it's you know,

2048
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 6: Kevin Harris, undrafted, Deshaun Fenwick, Jamichael Hasty Keys, Shaan Vaughan.

2049
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 6: I mean, you got two guys, which is kind of

2050
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 6: what you had last year. But I I just I'd

2051
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,799
Speaker 6: like another guy like and I'm not sure.

2052
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 4: Guy from Oregon State.

2053
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 5: Why does that ring a bell to me?

2054
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 8: I think so that sounds right.

2055
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 4: I mean, Fenwick just stick to me because he's not.

2056
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 8: He's not a bishop.

2057
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 5: H Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, obviously Antonio

2058
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 5: Gibson fits it extremely well.

2059
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 8: But I I do wonder.

2060
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 5: I think Remandre doesn't in a in a one cut sense,

2061
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 5: you know, if he if you're asking Rimandra Stevenson to

2062
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 5: turn the corner, then I don't think you're that's him.

2063
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 5: But if your plan is to, you know, just stretch

2064
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 5: it and then cut it back up the field, I

2065
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:02,560
Speaker 5: think that he could do that sort of thing. I

2066
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 5: do wonder if they would add another running back at

2067
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 5: some point, you know, the Zeke Elliott type of signing,

2068
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 5: you know.

2069
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 11: News.

2070
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 4: I don't think we mentioned that. The other day Tuesday,

2071
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 4: he did officially resign with fifteen.

2072
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 8: From Trey Lance. I can't get respect.

2073
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 4: I will say, you know, we talked a lot about

2074
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 4: their ability to continue to win with all those quarterbacks.

2075
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 4: When Nick Chubb went down, the offense kind of maintained

2076
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 4: some semblance of competence. So maybe they don't feel like

2077
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 4: the the individual running back is as important as.

2078
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 5: I shouldn't be in that scheme. And yeah, I wonder

2079
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 5: if they have a Zeke type signing.

2080
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 6: You know, late veteran addition and or Kevin Harrison.

2081
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 5: I'll just throw it out there. Jahan Bells played running back.

2082
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 4: YEP, I get my intel from FSU in house intel

2083
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 4: on well I.

2084
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 5: Was going to say. I was like, do you have

2085
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 5: an actual in because I'm writing.

2086
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 8: The profile according to the Patriots video guys.

2087
01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 5: Scrap, yeah, one of our guys.

2088
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 4: He's a psychotic Florida State fan, and yeah he did.

2089
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 5: I saw him walking in the other day and I

2090
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 5: mentioned it to him. I was like, hey, we got one,

2091
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 5: you know, in Philodralphia for like twenty minutes and tell

2092
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 5: you about all the place.

2093
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 4: That's what happened to me.

2094
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 8: He's like, wait, what happened?

2095
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 3: Wait?

2096
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 6: Why weren't you guys in the playoffs?

2097
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 8: You just walk into that nest.

2098
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 5: Oh, I've done that before and into that just for fun,

2099
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 5: you know.

2100
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,759
Speaker 4: Fred just comes down to talk to like Matt sometimes,

2101
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 4: and every once in a while there's like a Scrap rant.

2102
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, I've heard right, And he looks and

2103
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 5: he's like, what's going on down here?

2104
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 6: I mean, for those listening, this is a guy named

2105
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 6: that's called Scrap that has a thick North Shore Boston.

2106
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 6: Is it a north Shore accent? Would that be accurate

2107
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 6: way to say it?

2108
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 5: Boston?

2109
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 8: Just a Boston, pure bost Why you have to?

2110
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 6: I feel like the accents are the hardest, just because

2111
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 6: we're better the hardest Boston accents.

2112
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 8: I feel like a north Shore Now, am I wrong?

2113
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 8: Tell me I'm wrong?

2114
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 5: Like right in the suite, Dorchester Southey, that's.

2115
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 3: The North Shores Boston and Rehab. Yeah, we're trying to

2116
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 3: get rid of it.

2117
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 4: It's I mean, shots fired at both of us at

2118
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 4: this point, Like it's ridiculous Dorchester Southie.

2119
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know that because Gino I just thought

2120
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 6: about the Dale I think is where he grew up.

2121
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 8: Rossie. Yeah, I got ancestors from there.

2122
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 6: But has a good investors to do there from Ireland?

2123
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 6: You go, you don't even get me started. No, my

2124
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 6: Irish ancestors set up shop and they're like twelve kids.

2125
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:27,480
Speaker 5: But there's something harsh.

2126
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 6: Though to me about the North Shore version of the Boss,

2127
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 6: Like I know the south the one has that and

2128
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 6: like it's almost familiar, like and I think there's so

2129
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 6: many like whitey bulger things that like that's.

2130
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 4: You know, I think if you want to Shore, there's

2131
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 4: not much.

2132
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 10: Strong all the way up to Lowell.

2133
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 5: That's all the way up to Lowell, that's strong.

2134
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Merrimack Valley. That's not North Sture. Okay, But

2135
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 4: like if you go to like if you work your

2136
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 4: way up, I mean, if you're like in Everett, Revere,

2137
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 4: that's not really North Shore to me. I mean it's

2138
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 4: on Revere Beach is like Beverly, Yeah, and not getting

2139
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 4: bost You might get something.

2140
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 10: Cousins, but they have some thicks.

2141
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 5: That's more of a blue collar town.

2142
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 4: You'll get it.

2143
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 5: Fisherman family, Marblehead, rock Port, Yes, newberry Port.

2144
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 4: You're not getting Boston accents.

2145
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 5: Rich. That's the North Shore.

2146
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 8: It's weird.

2147
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 6: It's supposed to be a study, like because some people

2148
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 6: like I grew up here, I have no accent.

2149
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 8: I grew up in the suburbs.

2150
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 6: But you know, I don't know, it's just it's it's

2151
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 6: strange how it kind of works out.

2152
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 9: I went to college and the friends I met from

2153
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 9: Eastern mass that I had a New York accent, which

2154
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 9: is really strange.

2155
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's approximate, but from the western

2156
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 4: Mast thing you can go either.

2157
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 5: That's like I just thought I didn't has New York

2158
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 5: and Boston accents. It comes out a little bit when

2159
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 5: you've had a few drinks.

2160
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 8: Oh that's my Boston accent.

2161
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden it's you know, there's

2162
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 5: no yourself for me. No, you're just like say, you know,

2163
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 5: it's everything's wicked, no time for ours.

2164
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:56,520
Speaker 3: A couple of drinks and yeah, you're like, no, fascinating.

2165
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 5: So it's nothing like when Fred is no interest in

2166
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 5: the topic.

2167
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 10: Was impatiently waiting for anyway.

2168
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 3: Carrie writes in how adorable is Mike Reese? More of him? Please?

2169
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 3: We just had Mike rees on, Thanks again for joining us.

2170
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 8: The best, yes, the pro of all pros.

2171
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 6: And you know, I just I said it before that

2172
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 6: one of the things most remarkable to me is like,

2173
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 6: as things have shifted over the last few years and

2174
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 6: the team wasn't as good, he continued the same level

2175
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 6: of output and analysis and investment, and as you just

2176
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 6: saw him talking about he was down.

2177
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 8: There at Rhode Island yesterday, you know, talking.

2178
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 10: About I wasn't.

2179
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, does he didn't go yesterday?

2180
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 4: Oh he was, Yeah, he sort of scurried out right

2181
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 4: after we shot. Usually we you know, we have like

2182
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 4: a half hour forty five minute debris. Yeah, after shoot

2183
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 4: and you know we got we got about fifteen minutes

2184
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 4: and he's like, it's a providence.

2185
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 3: Sorry, I got it.

2186
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, No. That's the best part of it is

2187
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 5: that he always feels terrible for going to do something

2188
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 5: more important than talking to you in that moment.

2189
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get back to the phone.

2190
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 11: I knew it.

2191
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm wrapping up.

2192
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 3: It's like I made him whatever, Todd. Todd's in North Carolina.

2193
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 3: What's up, Todd?

2194
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, I want more micrees to that.

2195
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 13: He's a he's a great interview for you guys.

2196
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 3: That a little bit yep, good guys.

2197
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 12: So I would like to do some way way too

2198
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 12: early little predictions for the season. Let's go, guys up

2199
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 12: for that.

2200
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 13: Sure, Okay, let me start with number of games Drake

2201
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 13: May plays.

2202
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 8: Seven.

2203
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 3: I was going to say in his career just this year.

2204
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 3: This year, I would say twelve.

2205
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 5: Oh wow, I like that. It's a pig number.

2206
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 4: Kobe, Yeah, I think seven eight is good for you guys.

2207
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 4: I agree with you guys.

2208
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 8: Right in the middle, okay, technically middle.

2209
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 12: Which receiver will have the best yak.

2210
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 5: Pop Douglas oh, I feel like we're forgetting about pop.

2211
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 5: Doug Douglas is probably a good one, and I'm going

2212
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 5: to start I'm going to start reminding people that he exists.

2213
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 8: Javon Baker.

2214
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 12: Cool.

2215
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 13: How many times?

2216
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, will Paul ever give you the nod?

2217
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 3: This year?

2218
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 12: And it's still how many times?

2219
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 15: No?

2220
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 3: No, no? Not free zone?

2221
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 11: All right?

2222
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 3: Thanks to it has been retired.

2223
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 10: Is like a like a Tommy point.

2224
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 6: That's when when no way, anyone's winning, no way.

2225
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 4: The Patriots went the other way in recent yeah, went

2226
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 4: I never publicized the reverse nod.

2227
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 5: There have been a lot of them. Might be time

2228
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 5: to retire had at.

2229
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 8: The nod and the shake. I got the shake this one.

2230
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 3: I used to be like four Patriots go up seven nothing,

2231
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 3: look over the game? Games over.

2232
01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 5: I give Fred the knowing book.

2233
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 3: Let's see. Jordan writes in subject line Evan, I'm worried

2234
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 3: he's from Hawaii. I'm excited. What's to worry about in Hawaii?

2235
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 3: West Volcano worried about me? I don't worry. Let's trade.

2236
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 3: Let's find out. I'm excited about all of the new

2237
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 3: toys the Patriots got for their offense in the draft

2238
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 3: and elsewhere. This year brings a lot of excitement, new energy,

2239
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 3: I think to the team, But I also have a

2240
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 3: big concern. AVP has already said that they're going to

2241
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 3: be a running team. They will run the ball to

2242
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 3: open up the play action down the field. Does that

2243
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 3: mean they just need to move here and there or

2244
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 3: they need big chunk runs because I'm worried that they

2245
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 3: don't have the talent at running back to pick up

2246
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 3: yards consistently. Andre had one good season. Other than that,

2247
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 3: he's been plagued with injuries and not productive behind a

2248
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 3: bad line. Just want to know if I'm alone here,

2249
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 3: do you also have concerns with the old line or

2250
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 3: running back room not being good enough to open up

2251
01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 3: those shots downfield?

2252
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 5: Well yeah, everybody else, just shut your mics off, and

2253
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 5: I would just say that to quell your your concerns.

2254
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:20,560
Speaker 5: There is absolutely no statistical connection to rushing success and

2255
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 5: play action success. Could not agree more they those two

2256
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 5: things do not correlate. That teams that run the ball

2257
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 5: well also play action well. Now, teams that dress up

2258
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 5: play action well play action well. You know if you

2259
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 5: show teams blocking schemes that look like your runs and

2260
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 5: you marry it together to your runs, or you use

2261
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 5: little indicators or formations or personnel groupings that typically lend

2262
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 5: themselves to your run plays. That's when you really get

2263
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 5: on play action. That's why teams like the Niners and

2264
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 5: the Rams and all these teams are so good at

2265
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 5: it because everything looks the same. It's it's in the

2266
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 5: first phase of the play you have you cannot tell

2267
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 5: if it's a runner or pass, and then they just

2268
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 5: hit you with the play action and then you're screwed.

2269
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, my concern would be about just the desire to

2270
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 4: run the ball first and foremost.

2271
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 3: That's my big concern, right because I don't want to

2272
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 3: be a running team. I want to be in I know,

2273
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 3: I want to be a two thousand, you know, twenty

2274
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 3: four NFL offense.

2275
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 5: Well, I think that what they're trying to do is

2276
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 5: I just think that the concern that you have is

2277
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 5: I guess maybe what the emailer is getting at is

2278
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 5: they still I think lack high end talent on the

2279
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball. Like, I'm excited about these

2280
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 5: receivers as much as everybody, but I said the other

2281
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 5: day on Twitter that, you know, the only miss to

2282
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 5: me this offseason is Calvin Ridley and oh we don't

2283
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 5: even need Ridley now. It's like you don't even know

2284
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 5: if these guys can play, Like for all we know,

2285
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 5: Jalen Polk and Javon Baker is Aaron Dobson and Josh Boyce, Like,

2286
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 5: you know, how did that go? All right? I like, boys,

2287
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 5: you know how did that go?

2288
01:40:59,600 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 8: To me?

2289
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 3: To me, there's two times in the modern NFL where

2290
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 3: running games is successful. When you got a guy who's.

2291
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 5: Just so good like your guy Derrick Henry.

2292
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, or when you're when you're passing game is so

2293
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 3: good that teams just you know, have to give up

2294
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 3: the run at times because they have to focus and otherwise.

2295
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 3: Like I don't think, and you know, to whoever's point made,

2296
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anyone on this team right now

2297
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 3: that's that good a runner that you know, you can

2298
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 3: just run the ball and be successful.

2299
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 4: They might be fine running the ball, but if you

2300
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 4: can't throw it effectively traditionally, not just like mirrors like

2301
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 4: Kevin just talked about, you're dressing it up. I think

2302
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 4: that Alex van Pelt probably knows how to do that,

2303
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 4: and they probably will hit some plays doing that this year.

2304
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 4: I know, that's that's his offense. I mean when when

2305
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 4: Cleveland was looking really good late in the year with

2306
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,440
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco, he was hitting chunk play to David Najoku

2307
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 4: off of those hard play actions. With Flacco, he has

2308
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 4: the big arm to get the ball there, and I

2309
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 4: think I could see that with Drake May. I could

2310
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 4: absolutely see big plays. But if you can't throw it

2311
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 4: consistently traditionally, you're not going to be a high powered offense.

2312
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. If you're just running and trying to

2313
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 5: set up play action, it's not going to be good enough. Well,

2314
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 5: it's like you know with the forty nine ers, like

2315
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 5: they run into this problem. It feels like every single year,

2316
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 5: especially late in the playoffs, where eventually it comes it

2317
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 5: becomes a traditional drop back game and it's Jimmy garoppolover'sus

2318
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes and the Super Bowl and who always wins,

2319
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 5: you know, the better drop back passers. So I understand

2320
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 5: that that's my concern. But you know, with the running thing,

2321
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 5: I think you know the other way that you're good

2322
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 5: running teams if your quarterback can run. Because now if

2323
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 5: you're playing eleven on eleven and the quarterback's a factor

2324
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 5: in all these rushing schemes. That's what Baltimore does, you know,

2325
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 5: that's what Eagles do. Like now you're in a different

2326
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 5: element of run. That's really the teams other than teams

2327
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 5: like San Francisco or just are really talented offensively. The

2328
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:06,799
Speaker 5: teams that are really good running teams and nowadays are Baltimore, Philly,

2329
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:08,520
Speaker 5: you know, those types of teams.

2330
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 3: Where the quarterback is part of the running game.

2331
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 4: And San Francisco would be that example of a high

2332
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 4: powered offense that does it that way absolutely well.

2333
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 5: That makes a good plaint San Francisco is but they're

2334
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 5: so loaded.

2335
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 3: They're so loaded, like if you there, they their offense

2336
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 3: is a problem for the defense, like you don't know

2337
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 3: where it's coming on any down because they have weapons

2338
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 3: everywhere on the field. That's where every offense wants to be,

2339
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 3: you know. That's that's the goal for every offense that

2340
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 3: we can line up any way and do anything out

2341
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 3: of any formation and it puts the defense on their heels.

2342
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 3: But you need talent to do that. You know, it's

2343
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 3: hard to do. There was a time when the Patriots

2344
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 3: were kind of like that, you know, back in the day.

2345
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 5: Oh god, yea offense like that.

2346
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:57,560
Speaker 3: You know, we were talking about late bloomers, you know,

2347
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 3: people who started to go Yeah, the most interesting Pages

2348
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 3: fan in the world. James Pettigrew says, wondering didn't take

2349
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 3: a bit of time for Nate Soldier to come on.

2350
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 6: Well, he sat behind Matt light right dah, and then

2351
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 6: he got kind of thrust in as a right tackle initially.

2352
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's one of those guys that played some right tackle.

2353
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 8: I wouldn't.

2354
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're talking about being really good, I'm

2355
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 4: not sure he like I think he was kind of

2356
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:26,799
Speaker 4: an average tackle, so might you know, but he played

2357
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 4: pretty quick.

2358
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 6: Bruski I couldn't speak to this maybe you guys cause

2359
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 6: but Bruskie seems like he was a guy.

2360
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. He he couldn't cover at first, and I remember

2361
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 3: Parcels talking about it that we need to get him

2362
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 3: in coverage.

2363
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 4: The thing with him was it was such a dramatic

2364
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 4: position change. You're going from a defensive tackle to a linebacker.

2365
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was an interior pass he makes that movie.

2366
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 3: He had the n cua A sack record, you know, that's.

2367
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 11: What he did.

2368
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 4: And he was basically just a special teams player early

2369
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 4: in his career and then he yeah, I remember, he.

2370
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 5: Mike.

2371
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know, but I remember when

2372
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 4: I talked to Teddy once he talked about he never

2373
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 4: really felt like a true linebacker until he picked off

2374
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 4: a pass against Detroit on Thanksgiving in two thousand and two.

2375
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a sixty year yeah wow.

2376
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it took him a while, but paid off progress.

2377
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 3: What is it patience? Progress? Payoff or I don't pay

2378
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 3: off the end?

2379
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 10: Progress is in there somewhere.

2380
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 5: This is your this is your slant progress.

2381
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 10: There's no word art in.

2382
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 3: My home, all right, Jonah says, And this one's kind

2383
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 3: of a reach. I don't know if anyone remembers, but

2384
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase was dropping balls in his rookie preseason because

2385
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 3: he claimed the NFL balls were bigger.

2386
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 5: Yeah that lasted like maybe a week.

2387
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 4: But that doesn't qualify as being a bus.

2388
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 3: Or even people thinking he might be right.

2389
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 11: Yeah right, but I do.

2390
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 4: I actually do remember there being some talk about that

2391
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 4: that him can play. We'll not complaining, but just saying

2392
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 4: I have to get used to the I.

2393
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 6: Always wonderful that no one ever talks about that, like

2394
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 6: doing the quarterbacks, like it's all of a sudden, the

2395
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 6: ball is bigger.

2396
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 8: How much of a change.

2397
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 6: It's longer, Yeah, tell me more about it, Paul, What

2398
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 6: about it?

2399
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 5: Duke is longer.

2400
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 4: College ball was shorter and fatter, the girth of the ball.

2401
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 4: All I could think about was Mike when I started

2402
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 4: picking up.

2403
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 3: Plus it has the stripe on the tip in college.

2404
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 6: And they started implanting micro chips in it, so you

2405
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 6: know exactly where it goes and when and how fast.

2406
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 8: And it's pretty impressive.

2407
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 6: Can I say, I'm going to be laughing for the

2408
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 6: rest of the foreseeable future thinking about them having Creighton

2409
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 6: barrel whiney like those kind of signs up, like those

2410
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 6: like oh I.

2411
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 3: Hate when you know, like I don't want to. I

2412
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 3: don't want to those in their houses I just can't stand.

2413
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 3: Or like college girls in their dorm room. Hang in there, Kitty,

2414
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 3: the little kiddy hanging on the branch.

2415
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 4: There's a good how many college.

2416
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 8: Hang in there? What does that mean?

2417
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:06,799
Speaker 11: I have to say.

2418
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 15: Him?

2419
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 6: I was gonna say something sitting on the sitting on

2420
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:13,640
Speaker 6: the bump bed with his feet hanging off.

2421
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 3: Never hung out in the all girls dorms in college.

2422
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 8: He went to be you was like fights out there everybody.

2423
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 3: They were just kind of Tampa. We had. There were

2424
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 3: a couple of all girls and then all boys, and

2425
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 3: then everything else was.

2426
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 8: Holy crossed the girls holy Cross.

2427
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 6: The girls scores were locked and so you used to

2428
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 6: have to like I was gonna say, then, the poor

2429
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 6: two girls who like had the dorm closest to the

2430
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 6: door had to always come and like the boyfriend.

2431
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 5: And I was gonna say, holy Cross. Right, you're not

2432
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 5: allowed to like stay anywhere I was there. I'm only kidding.

2433
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 5: I think that's Notre Dame though, that is like that. Yeah,

2434
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 5: Notre Dame is like you are not allowed to have

2435
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 5: female or male visitors to be by you.

2436
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, differences definitely the drink there.

2437
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't have any of those rules that.

2438
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 11: No.

2439
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 4: I can attest a couple of prescriptions later.

2440
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 3: No, okay, uh, Jeff in Canada, I gave the draft

2441
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 3: process an a. I say the process because that's all

2442
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 3: weak and great right now, we can't great players who've

2443
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 3: never played a snap in the league. But at the

2444
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 3: end of the day, every football fan knew their needs

2445
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 3: and they took swings at all of those positions. I

2446
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 3: didn't hear your positions yet, your opinions yet unless it

2447
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 3: was in the first half of the show. On the

2448
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 3: tight end for fsu Bell, I've heard he could be

2449
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 3: a steal, but he's a seventh rounder, so who knows well,

2450
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 3: both Mike Reese and Evan.

2451
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 8: Concur you just see me.

2452
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the the process I think is,

2453
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,719
Speaker 4: I think you're only looking at the positions that they.

2454
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 5: Picked as opposed to how they did it.

2455
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2456
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 4: Like, I think there's some questions as to how they.

2457
01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 6: Did me too, And that's why I couldn't say, like, oh,

2458
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 6: you know, if you had to do the stupid thing

2459
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 6: and give a grade. I mean, I think the only

2460
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 6: thing you're really great is how well did you hit

2461
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 6: the needs? And I think they did hit the needs.

2462
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 6: But I you know, I think it probably could have

2463
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 6: been a little bit better with the left tackle need.

2464
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 4: And I think they could have moved a little bit

2465
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:19,639
Speaker 4: or changed the order slightly and maybe better maximize the Yeah.

2466
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 6: If they but if they've gone like cornerback, you know,

2467
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 6: guard safety, I mean, that's an.

2468
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,719
Speaker 3: Af you know who I would I'd like to ask

2469
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 3: Elliott to ask his father who he thinks was the

2470
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 3: best draft day negotiator over the phone that he's ever dealt.

2471
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 5: With in terms of picks.

2472
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, ask your daddy.

2473
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 3: I'll bet you that there's people out there that are

2474
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 3: better than others. Like you get him on the phone,

2475
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 3: you just couldn't say no, he was he was the best,

2476
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 3: you know, so fast, you know, before you knew it,

2477
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 3: you've given up a first round pick. Yeah.

2478
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that in terms of you know, you

2479
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 5: talk people that you know, we've been talking to now

2480
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 5: after the draft and things like that, a lot of

2481
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 5: people will say that the league had Jalen Polk higher

2482
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 5: than the media did. And now this type of stuff

2483
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 5: comes out every year a player gets slightly over drafted

2484
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden there's this media campaign about

2485
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 5: how the league was higher on him than than the

2486
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 5: media was. But that was one of them that I

2487
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 5: felt like that. And with Jaheane Bell, I was just

2488
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 5: talking to Jim Nagy, the Senior Bowl director for all

2489
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 5: of our profiles on these guys, and he said point

2490
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 5: blank that Jahan Bell is going to make a fifty

2491
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 5: three man roster.

2492
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 4: Yes, of course he was any But.

2493
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 5: I have to I have to agree with him though,

2494
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 5: And I agree with what Mike Rees said to us

2495
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 5: earlier to a t there's a clear role in path

2496
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,639
Speaker 5: for him to make the roster. It's not like we're

2497
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 5: talking about him beating out, you know, a bunch of

2498
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 5: receivers or something like that out of nowhere. But there's

2499
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:56,440
Speaker 5: a clear role projection for him as this move explosive

2500
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 5: tight end when they have some veteran guys that aren't

2501
01:50:59,160 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 5: exactly in.

2502
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 4: And that's why I always get into like I don't

2503
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 4: really necessarily care, like a lot of people will do

2504
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 4: the evaluation, Well, that's a great draft. They drafted eight

2505
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 4: guys and all eight of them made the roster. The

2506
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll Patriots were famous with this with Bobby Greer.

2507
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 4: Do you remember how many linemen they used to draft

2508
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 4: that couldn't that couldn't play at all, Fred Damien Denson,

2509
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 4: Scott Rayberg's got ray but they all made the roster

2510
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 4: every year.

2511
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 3: What are draft? Scott? What a draft?

2512
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 4: These guys couldn't play a monster.

2513
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 3: He was like sixth eight and back in the day

2514
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 3: on the plane they had the TVs that would hang

2515
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 3: from the ceiling. Every trip he'd hit his head. It's like,

2516
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 3: don't you learn after the first time that you have

2517
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 3: to do every trip? He'd hit his that on that.

2518
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 4: Side, but they would have like their fifth, sixth, seventh

2519
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 4: round picks, they would make the team, and everybody'd be like,

2520
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 4: what a great draft. You know, great drafts with like

2521
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 4: Chris Canty and Brandon Mitchell, you know at the top

2522
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 4: of the.

2523
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:52,639
Speaker 11: Like great draft.

2524
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 4: These guys can't play just because So if if Jahem

2525
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 4: Bell got drafted by a team that had really good

2526
01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 4: tight end depth and he didn't make the team, it's

2527
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 4: not any better or worse pick than it is. As

2528
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,600
Speaker 4: Evan said, if he has more of an opportunity to

2529
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 4: actually make the team here, can he play, Like we'll

2530
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 4: find that out.

2531
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 5: He could play in Florida State. It's going to translate.

2532
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,640
Speaker 4: But it's funny because we did. We had that was

2533
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 4: one of our questions, like the draft pick that you

2534
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 4: liked the best, and we both thought we both wanted

2535
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 4: to say, Belle, you know, after this is after not

2536
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 4: including Drake May. Yeah, it's kind of like best Patriot

2537
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 4: of all time, you know, non Tom Brady, non Tom

2538
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 4: Brady category. We wanted to have our listen, you can

2539
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 4: keep trying.

2540
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 5: I actually have something to say about Joe. I have

2541
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 5: something to say about Joe Milton.

2542
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 4: Too, but we both we both wanted Belle, and I said,

2543
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:42,759
Speaker 4: you talk about Belle, and I ended up taking Baker

2544
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 4: just as as my pick because I didn't. I didn't lie,

2545
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 4: but I did. I do like Baker as a pick,

2546
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 4: but I like it. I like the athleticism of the

2547
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 4: tight end. You know, I do think there's a chance

2548
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 4: they take advantage and.

2549
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:00,680
Speaker 5: Scrap, I'm not gonna lie. Scrap was like he made me.

2550
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 11: He got a dog.

2551
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 5: He can run the scene like there's no doubt about that.

2552
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 5: And he can catch the ball. He can catch and

2553
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 5: run with it. And if you look at what Drake

2554
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 5: made does well in terms of throwing the middle of

2555
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 5: the field. If you have a four to six tight

2556
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 5: end that can split the seam, you know, this is

2557
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 5: one of those guys that can do that. And Drake

2558
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:18,919
Speaker 5: make and throw that past.

2559
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 4: All day, four six tight end, bigger guy than that might.

2560
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 5: But the thing I was going to tell you about

2561
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 5: about Joe Millton our favorite six round pick, is that

2562
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 5: uh Naggy again mentioned that down at the Senior Bowl,

2563
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 5: they have an award that they give out every year

2564
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 5: for everybody's favorite guy at the Senior Bowl. It's the

2565
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 5: good guy Award of the Senior Bowl, and it just

2566
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 5: so happened that the good guy of the twenty twenty

2567
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 5: four Senior Bowl was won Joe Milton.

2568
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,640
Speaker 3: So I had somebody in my office yesterday who not

2569
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 3: from the South, but who sometimes likes to talk with

2570
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 3: an acid. Now, now he had a pretty good year

2571
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 3: kindnesse last year. You know.

2572
01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Now we didn't the just on the Milton thing,

2573
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 4: and I know that you guys don't like busting on,

2574
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 4: which is fine that I deserve it. This is not

2575
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 4: about what I think of Joe Milton, as much as

2576
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 4: would ensue after that, Like I don't we Fred and

2577
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 4: I have disagreed on our evaluations of different elements and

2578
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 4: players for twenty plus years. This is not about that

2579
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 4: he didn't agree with my viewpoints on Joe Milton. I'll

2580
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:29,600
Speaker 4: just drop it there and leave it.

2581
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 3: We both agree on a lot of things, and we

2582
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 3: both disagree on a lot of things.

2583
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 6: Since the show's running out and it'll cut off, and like,

2584
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 6: the question in my mind though with Milton is just like,

2585
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 6: what's the best case scenario.

2586
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 8: For the Patriots with him?

2587
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 3: What is the best I I told you in the

2588
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 3: last show that it's obvious to him that he can't

2589
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 3: play quarterback.

2590
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 5: That's the best case.

2591
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 3: They have a conversation with him, why don't you give

2592
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 3: something else to try, like tight end, and then that's it.

2593
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2594
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 5: I feel like the best case scenario for the Patriots

2595
01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 5: is that if he needs to be Kirk Cousins, and

2596
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 5: he's Kirk, he puts it all together, it'd be the

2597
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 5: best case.

2598
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 6: YEA, not a great case scenario because that means Drake

2599
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 6: may got hurt though, right, but that's.

2600
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 5: The whole idea of the insurance policy.

2601
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 4: But even if he just develops no, no, and that's

2602
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 4: where my head and all of a sudden, you look like,

2603
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 4: this guy's a much better pro quarterback than he was

2604
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 4: in college.

2605
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 8: Let's let's flip them.

2606
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 5: After being in college for so long that the Mike

2607
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 5: quarterbacks Mike was his college teammate, Yeah, Mike on when

2608
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 5: he was going into your five in the NFL, if

2609
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 5: they played together.

2610
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 3: If you're a Joe Milton fan, a real fan, yeah, Joshua,

2611
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 3: you should be. You should be rooting for Jacoby Brissette

2612
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 3: to get hurt.

2613
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, hurt?

2614
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 11: Why?

2615
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 3: I think acause right now I am rooting for people

2616
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 3: to get hurt because well, no, but Joe Milton, he's

2617
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 3: buried in the depth chart. He's not even the he's

2618
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 3: not the backup. He's not the backup.

2619
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 4: He's not now, he's not even three.

2620
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 3: He may not even see time in preseason.

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01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 5: Oh he will?

2622
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 3: What else? What else? You have two quarterbacks they need

2623
01:55:58,000 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 3: to get ready before him.

2624
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 5: Jacoby does need to get ready. He just played in

2625
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 5: this offense two years ago.

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01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 3: They need to see what they've got.

2627
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 4: And I don't think you're going to see a tremendous

2628
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 4: amount of Jocoby what.

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01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 5: No, Joe Milton is the fourth quarter of preseasons. Joe

2630
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 5: Milton's time to shine, baby, that's his time.

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01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I could be wrong, but I feel like everybody

2632
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 3: in this offense, it's starting from square.

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01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 4: I think he'll play, but I don't think he's going

2634
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 4: to play a ton.

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01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2636
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 8: Oh, I got a great idea.

2637
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 6: You know, maybe we could get Joe Milton to throw

2638
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 6: Patriots on Filter T shirts to people at training. Kid,

2639
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 6: you know, like up on that, like you know when

2640
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 6: there it go. You know, we don't need to get

2641
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 6: that thousand dollars T shirt. Cannona been looking forward to

2642
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 6: Joe Milton. Give him some oranges, give him.

2643
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 8: Some some T shirts.

2644
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 5: And I was watching his tape the other day. The

2645
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 5: power in his arm is it's truly power.

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01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 4: Sleep better than Drake Man.

2647
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 5: Like not even just in terms of it's not just

2648
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 5: that he throws the deep ball.

2649
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 3: It's already started.

2650
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 5: It's not even just that he throws the deep ball

2651
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 5: far though, Like that's one thing, Like, Okay, you know,

2652
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 5: he Arcus Russell to.

2653
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 8: A frozen rope.

2654
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 5: Now it might be ten yards over the guy's head,

2655
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 5: but it was hard. And I think that that's the

2656
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 5: one thing that just with both these guys. For so long,

2657
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 5: in the last five years or so, the Patriots have

2658
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 5: been in this situation with quarterback where they couldn't access

2659
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 5: all the parts of the field because the quarterback just

2660
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 5: didn't have the arm for it. So basically like everything

2661
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 5: outside the numbers and the deep middle of the field

2662
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 5: were just like off limits, Like we're not even gonna three,

2663
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 5: We're not even gonna draw plays for these areas of

2664
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 5: the field. Now they have two guys that, like you

2665
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 5: just have to hope they keep it on the field,

2666
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 5: you know, Like they have such arm talent that now

2667
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, every blade of grass is accessible.

2668
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 6: That's what I'm interested in, just because people excited.

2669
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:43,920
Speaker 5: That's what gets me excited about it. Is like you

2670
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:47,200
Speaker 5: can really see that, you know, Drake May, Joe Millon, whoever,

2671
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 5: those guys, you know, there's no longer oh, we can

2672
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 5: just fall asleep on this play defensively because you know

2673
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 5: he's rolling to his right and there's no way he's

2674
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 5: gonna flick it back to No, these guys can flick

2675
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 5: it back to the left like they they can go

2676
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 5: forty yards in the op is a direction just five.

2677
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 8: That's that's what I'm interested in.

2678
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 6: Is I have a sense of Bailey Zappy already having

2679
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 6: watched him, and so just to see the comparison between

2680
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 6: what we've seen in his arm, which is admittedly, you know,

2681
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 6: fairly average to below average, but you know, is it

2682
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 6: that noticeable right from the get go, Drake Man.

2683
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 3: And by the way, you gotta move Bailey Zappy right,

2684
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 3: he can't be on the roster probably.

2685
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 5: Final roster, probably Yeah, Yeah, I mean I think he

2686
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 5: might have like a teen c weensy bit of value.

2687
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 5: You think he's got a market in August, like if

2688
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 5: some quarterback gets hurt and they need a backup.

2689
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 3: If and if that's the case, then Joe Milton's even

2690
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 3: further down the depth Shart.

2691
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, wait till you see this arm though, Fred.

2692
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I believe the arm. I believe the arm. A

2693
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 3: head is the other thing I've heard jack In and

2694
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:48,839
Speaker 3: Arbor talking about late bloomers. Rob Ninkovich late bloomer.

2695
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that's a good I mean,

2696
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,640
Speaker 6: that's gonna be draft Yeah, but yeah, we didn't draft them.

2697
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 8: That's why he probably didn't.

2698
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 6: But I mean a guy that came here as a

2699
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 6: long snapper in like the second or third week of August.

2700
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 6: You know, I like rabel Now he was, he was,

2701
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:04,120
Speaker 6: he was scratching the surface with it.

2702
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 4: Really good player for Pittsburgh, became a really good player

2703
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 4: in New England.

2704
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah.

2705
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 4: Second round, but I mean I believe it was the

2706
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 4: second round pick out of Ohio State.

2707
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 6: Like that's but Ninkovich is story one of my favorites

2708
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 6: of you know, especially because that time it was, you know,

2709
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 6: this was the defensive turnover. I mean, Ninkovitch was that

2710
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 6: diamond in the rough that they were able to uncover

2711
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 6: that you know, made them able to overcome the losses

2712
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,959
Speaker 6: of you know, the Seymour's and you know and McGuinness

2713
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 6: and the very bad.

2714
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 4: I'm thinking more of players the Patriots trapp.

2715
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you kind of wrote too much hung

2716
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 6: around I mean Edelman to some extent, but I think

2717
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 6: he could be one of those I.

2718
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 10: Was going to say him, but I feel like in

2719
01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 10: order to be a bus you have to be like hyped.

2720
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's probably yeah, too hard to say. The

2721
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 4: seventh round pick, right, the.

2722
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 3: Guy that had expectations, he was happy to be there,

2723
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 3: then came back and yeah, it's hard to come up

2724
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 3: with those guys. All right, that's going to be it

2725
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 3: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. I hope everyone has

2726
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 3: a good weekend. I think we've talked about everything we

2727
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 3: need to talk about. The Brady tickets are sold out.

2728
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 5: But did you talk about Joey Sly No, Well, a

2729
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 5: little bit kicker, he kicks the ball.

2730
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 3: All right, we'll see you next Tuesday.

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02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:20,360
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02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:23,480
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