1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: At the ball sitting McCovey cove in the water. McCovey 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: cove wishes it was that clear. By the way, it's 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: another episode of splash In. I met p Santangeo, your 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: friend and your other friend on this show. Susan Slusser 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: joins us from the Winter Meetings in Orlando. Susan, you 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: came over from London to the Winter Meetings. I'm back 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. We're back in the USA. Any news today. 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: I guess the number one thing I want to ask you, 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: and we've been talking about this, did you finally meet 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Tony Vitello. I have. 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: I finally met Tony Vitella, and he is I think 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: you've said, like, first of all charm, total charm. But 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: he's very funny, so uh, he was cracking loads of 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: jokes today, which you know what this is the time 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: of year, this is it's great, like get the temperature 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: right away, get everyone, you know, kind of like he's 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: won all the reporters over. So that's he's already done 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: the hard part. 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: Well that's good. Well, we'll see, we'll see what happens 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: within there's like five in a row. I'm sure he's 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: going to be the same. They're owing o right now, 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: what's what's the latest news? Like this is going to 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: be your show today. You're at the winter meetings. This 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: is a big deal. What's the latest news on the Giants? 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: What'd you hear today? 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's it's really interesting. The Giants have 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: so many needs, right and they've got to fill two 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: starting spots in the rotation they've got for my money, 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: they need to get another big bat who's also a 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: good defensive outfielder. That's a pretty big ask right there. 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: Uh and you know what a bunch of other things. 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Do they need a closer, maybe upgrade at second base. 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: There's a bunch of things. And we kept hearing like 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of a limited budget. Greg Johnson 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: told me in a Q and A I did a 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: month ago, we don't want to give out nine figure 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: salaries or long term deals, especially to starters. Athletic reported 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: that they were out on uh am I already. I 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 2: keep hearing that they've checked in on all of these 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: big names and that they're not necessarily out. So you know, 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: it's it's it's really hard to say right now, but 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: I like the fact that they are checking in on 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: all of those guys, even if it's just due diligence, 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: which I said last week, you know, of course they're 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: going to do their due diligence and kick the tires 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: on everybody. The fact that certainly there are a lot 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: of agents that feel like the Giants are still in 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: on some big name guys, and some reporters hearing that 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: the Giants could could even be a team that lands 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: a big name starter, I'd be a little surprised given 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: what we've been hearing about the budget, but they they 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: are certainly considering everything. And then when we met with 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: Buster Posey today and Zach Menazian sort of the little 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: you know every day at the winter meetings you meet 55 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: with the front office, and and Tony Vattelo was there 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: too for all of us today, we asked, you know, 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: these budget limitations, how much of an impact is that. 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: You know, Greg talked about the nine figure deals and 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Busser said, you know what this ownership when we went 60 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: to them last year with a dev's deal, you know, 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: he said, well, he said, they didn't blink, and then 62 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: he went, they maybe blinked a little bit, but you know, 63 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: we talked to them and you know, they understood what 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: we're trying to do and why it was important, and 65 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: they you know, they were willing to pick up that contract. 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Obviously huge deal, huge contract. So I think what the 67 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: front office feels like is that ownership has their back. 68 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: So if they went with to them with say, you know, 69 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: let's say franker Valdez, I think they feel like if 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: they presented it in the right terms and said, this 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: is the guy that we need. He's going to take 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: us to the next level. This is why we like 73 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: him so much, I think they feel like ownership would 74 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: do whatever. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, 75 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: but I do think that they feel like we we 76 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: should talk to everybody and if there's somebody we really 77 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: really want and if it's a deal we feel like 78 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: is fair, we've got a shot maybe with ownership going like, hey, 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: well we didn't want to do this, but for this guy, 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: we understand why we why we want might want to 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: Now I still think, you know, look, I'm like I'm 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm looking at their rotation. I go web Web You've 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: got a true number one. Robbie Ray, You've got a 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: you know, these are two frontline starters you've got already. 85 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: I'm fine with a guy who's more of a traditional 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: number three guy. You know, somebody who would could come 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: in on a two or three year deal, Uh, Chris Bassett, 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: Zach Gallon would be you know, really ideal. And I 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: do think they're in on him, even though you know 90 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: he's he's a little bit on a coming off of 91 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: a down year. He finished strong. Someone like that I 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: think would be fine. I don't think you have to 93 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 2: go out and get am I who's a who's something 94 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: of an unknown too talent, even though the great talent 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: and the young guy. And I don't think you need 96 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: to be in on Faldes. But what they need FP 97 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: they need a big bat. They need a great defensive 98 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: outfielder who can also hit. There's only a handful of them. 99 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't think that they're going to get Tucker. I'm 100 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: not sure they're even pursuing Tucker. I think he's definitely 101 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: outside the price range because that's going to be four 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: hundred million plus. But a Cody Bellinger, if if i'm 103 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: then those are the kind of that's the kind of 104 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: guy I'm going or trade for. Somebody you know that 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: to me should be their priority right now? Is a 106 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: big bat, good defensive outfielder. 107 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean a couple of things we know about 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: Buster Posey so far that he keeps things close to 109 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: the best, and it's good business, right, I'm not gonna 110 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to show my cards. I might even 111 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: do an okie doke and say we're not going to 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: sign a guy for an eight figure deal or whatever 113 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: it is, and then all of a sudden it's done. 114 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: We learn that with Willia Damas, we learned that with 115 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: Raefield Devers. Like you said, it's kind of good business 116 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: practice not to show your cards. Like they're gonna give 117 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: you guys just enough so you have something to go right, 118 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: but like what they're telling you and what's going on 119 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. And I think Giants fans get all 120 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: upset because they read an article somewhere here or there 121 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: and it says this. But like, if I'm doing business 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to make my team better, I'm not 123 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: showing you my cards, man, because then the other people 124 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: see it and it jack's up the price. And if 125 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: we're not in on this guy, maybe we can sneak 126 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: around the back door and get that guy whoever it is. 127 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: So I kind of like this this philosophy with Buster. 128 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: I like being surprised. And also when you go to 129 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: ownership as a front office and you say we want 130 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: this guy and this is how much gonna cost, you 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: really have to trust the people that are making those decisions. 132 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: If I'm writing the check, and I think Greg Johnson 133 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: in ownership, trust Buster Posey and Zach Manasci and the 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: front office that is a giants based on the deals 135 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: they've done already. Now it's way easier to say, Okay, 136 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to sign that check and we're going to 137 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: sign this guy because I trust you guys to make 138 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: good decisions, where maybe in the past there was some 139 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: weird decisions made. And then as an ownership if you 140 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: come to me, I don't have confidence in you anymore 141 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: like to make those decisions. And we won't say who 142 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: or names, but they're maybe with the last regime there 143 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: was some hums. So like, if you're coming to me 144 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: and I don't have confidence in you, but right now 145 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: you're Buster Posey, you're a world champion, Hall of Famer, 146 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: You've shown that you know what you're doing. And if 147 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: you come to me with like a big gulp contract, like, 148 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, I believe that this is going to 149 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: make our team better. So I kind of like the 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: strategy involved right now. And if I was ever a 151 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: front office guy, I wouldn't say anything to the media. 152 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say anything other than what's in that hotel 153 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: room and what we're trying to do, and let's just 154 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: give them just enough so they can do their jobs. 155 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: Well. I will say that last year Busters first year 156 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: obviously in the job, but he kind of said right 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: right away when when you know, everybody was talking about 158 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: Roki Sasaki and he was like, yeah, absolutely, we're going 159 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: after him. I don't know if necessarily there's a downside 160 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: to that. You do want to signal to your fan 161 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: base that you are in on big name guys. Now 162 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: that has bit the giants in the butt. Obviously in 163 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: the past, they missed out on a lot of the biggest, 164 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: biggest free name, big biggest free agent names. Judge Harper, 165 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: et cetera. 166 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: Show, Which is why, which is why, which is why? 167 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: You keep it close to the. 168 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: Vest now I disagree. I disagree. I would rather have 169 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: my fan base know that we missed out, but we 170 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: made every possible attempt to get a guy than to 171 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: even question that we maybe didn't go after him. I 172 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: think it's more important for them for teams to signal 173 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: to their fan base we are we are willing to 174 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: make these financial sacrifices for this to be the best 175 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: team possible, rather than keeping it secret just to avoid 176 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: like going like, oh, we missed out again. You know 177 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: what if you miss out like twenty eight other teams 178 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: also missed out, right, Well, they're probably not all going 179 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: after but only one team's going to wind up with 180 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: Sho heeo Tani. It was always going to get be 181 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: the Dodgers. That was pretty apparent after the fact, But 182 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: the Giants made a good faith effort. I think. I mean, 183 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: they get slammed for whatever they do. Either way, they're 184 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: going to get slammed, So so show you're going to 185 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: like I think they should if it's a big name. 186 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: There's I think there's really little downside to saying I 187 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: think the fans want to know. 188 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, those are great points and the only 189 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: pushback I'll give you that every Giants fans watching this 190 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: has had a therapist and a couch. Based on all 191 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the bridesmaids that have almost signed with the Giants, including 192 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: some bad tweets by big reporters. So we're all kind 193 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: of gunshy to that, and we all kind of have 194 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: PTSD on the fact that there's been so many close 195 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: calls that maybe we just maybe that's just a me 196 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: thing and I'm projecting right now. I'd rather not know 197 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: they get all excited and then all of a sudden 198 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: have the rug pulled out from under me. But hey, however, 199 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: you get it done, You get it done. Whatever your 200 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: style is your style. I kind I kind of like 201 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: keeping things close to the back versus it's all out 202 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: there for everybody to know. Bryce Eldridge. A lot of 203 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: talk about Bryce Eldridge. Are the Giants? Is he on 204 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: the market? Are the Giants going to trade him? Are 205 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: they shopping around? Personally? Before I throw it to you, 206 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: because you're there boots on the ground. You know, when 207 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: you talk about anybody in any organization, I don't think 208 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: there's any untouchables, because if you throw something out there 209 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: and somebody bites and all of a sudden, you're like, 210 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: WHOA Like everybody, there shouldn't be any untouchables in an organization. 211 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're going to trade that guy. It 212 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're going to do that deal, but why 213 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: not you see what's out there? 214 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, fpu know, most top prospects do not 215 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: wind up being every day big league players. I mean, 216 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: then the odds are against it. It's tough to make 217 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: the big leagues when you look at the first round 218 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: draft picks. It's not like some other sports. It's not 219 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: an automatic. You're you're just gonna wind up being a 220 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: big league player in a regular It doesn't happen like that. Now. 221 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: You also don't want to be the guy that trades, 222 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: you know, Max REI like, there are some so every 223 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: once in a while there's a big whoopsie, right, Fernando 224 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: Tatis Junior. You don't want to be that guy, but 225 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: you have to take risks. And prospects are really pretty 226 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: much unknown until they turn into big league regulars, and 227 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: then that's a very different dynamic. You can sell your 228 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: top prospect Teams romanticized top prospects. They want they you know, 229 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: they look, they all look at Bryce Eldridge and they go, 230 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: this is a guy who's going to hit fifty home 231 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: runs and look at the swing. We don't know, we 232 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: don't know yet I think everybody overvalues their own prospects, 233 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: and I think that if you can get a huge 234 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: return in exchange for a good prospect, I like the 235 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: idea of doing that. Now, look, we've got two great 236 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: examples right in front of us of reasons why not 237 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: to Buster Poe was the Giants' top prospect and the 238 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: number two back then was Madison Bumgarner. Giants pretty pretty 239 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: wise not to move either of them in a deal. 240 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: But Marco Luciano was just jumped a couple of days 241 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: ago for nothing, and for years he was untouchable, you know, 242 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: and now gone Joey Bart. They get almost nothing for 243 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: Joey Bart. Many of their top prospects the last few 244 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: years have either been gone through major injuries and are 245 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: no longer really factors, or just didn't quite pan out 246 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: the way that was expected for a whole different number 247 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: of reasons. That said that, the system has been as 248 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: a digression. The system as a whole, I think has 249 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: been underrated because the Giants have produced a lot of 250 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: really good players, just not the guys who were expected 251 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: to be the you know, but Logan Webb, Camillo d'aval, 252 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Randy Rodriguez, you know, a landed route like they there 253 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: are all sorts of good names and good players that 254 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: they've they have produced. Patrick Bailey obviously was a first 255 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: round pick. Elliott Ramos is obviously a first round pick. 256 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: These guys are all regulars and contributors. So I'm not 257 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: I am not in any way slamming the development or whatever, 258 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 2: but I just feel like if you can get a 259 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: pretty much a sure thing on the big league level 260 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: for somebody who's not a sure thing, I'm in favor 261 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: generally speaking of doing it. 262 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree a million percent on that. 263 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, so we all sort of asked around this 264 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: question today with with Buster Posey, and I asked Buster 265 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: if he has a philosophy on whether he prefers to, 266 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: you know, as some teams do. The Tigers for a 267 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: long time held onto all their top guys that worked. 268 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: A lot of teams trade their top guys padres that works. 269 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: You know, there's no right or wrong way. So asked 270 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: if he has a philosophy, and he basically said, you know, 271 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: he's in favor of doing whatever the movie is that 272 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: will help the team the most, which is exactly you know, 273 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: the right answer. A little frustrating where we're trying to 274 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: figure out are you going to trade Bryce or not? 275 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: But he also really he spent a long time complimenting 276 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: Bryce Eldridge Eldridge and explaining how he and Raphael Dovers 277 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: could both you know, be on the roster at the 278 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: same time, which is pretty simple. Brice Eldridge pretty much 279 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: just essentially what it boils down to. So you know, 280 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: they don't have to trade him. But the other part 281 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: of this to me that won't come as a surprise 282 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: to UFP is when you've got to he's said profiles 283 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: as such a special hitter, but he doesn't really have 284 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: a position. For me, that that also lessens his value 285 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: a little bit. I would rather have an I love, 286 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,239 Speaker 2: I love Bryce Eldridge, and he's a fantastic guy, absolutely 287 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: top notch. But I think even more so that makes 288 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: him somebody that I I if I were a general manager, 289 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: thank goodness I'm not, and I just have a team 290 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: of great talkers who can't play baseball. But I would 291 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: I would be a little bit more in to trade 292 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: somebody who is maybe not quite as fersatile. 293 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a position. He's got Ron Washing his 294 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: infield coach. He's gonna be a gold Glover in a year. 295 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we have that later in the show. 296 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: But since my right field, since it's a natural segue, 297 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: like we're gonna talk about Jeff Kent and Barry Bonds 298 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: in a second. We were going to talk about wash later, 299 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: but like, since it's a natural segue right now, Like 300 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: he's one of the best coaches I ever had end 301 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: of my career in Oakland. He was teaching me things 302 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: about second base, a position I played my whole life 303 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: that I'd never even heard of before. Like, for instance, 304 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: a ball to your right, instead of like working to 305 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: get around it and fielding it in front of you 306 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: and throwing on the run, just open up, like I'm 307 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: going to demonstrate, just open up and backhand it this 308 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: way so you didn't have to get all the way 309 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: around it and then throw across your body. Little things 310 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: around the bag, little things about double play turns, double 311 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: play feeds, stuff I'd never heard in my life that 312 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: made the position so much easier. And you know, all 313 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the names in the development, whether it's Ozzy Alby's or 314 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: even Freddie Freeman at first base Atlanta, all the guys 315 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: Marcus Simeon with the A's that just couldn't field. So 316 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: now you add a guy that's a manager, and we'll 317 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: talk about the influence that'll have with Tony Vitello and 318 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: a guy that's just cool as hell and gets it. 319 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: But also it's a hard worker. A lot of times 320 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball you have coaches that stop coaching 321 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: because it's the major league level. And Wash is out 322 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: there every day early doing all the drills. And the 323 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: way he communicates and the way he implements his philosophies 324 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: to you, whatever it is, it just sinks in quickly 325 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: and it's not hard, and he's just I got so 326 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: excited when I saw he was going to be here. 327 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: Number one for selfish reasons. I love him and I 328 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: miss him. And whenever our travel's connected and he was 329 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: the manager of this team or that team or the 330 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: infield coach, I'd always go say hi to him. But 331 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: one of the biggest influences in my career, and it 332 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: was almost too late. It was the last year my 333 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: major league career, and I'm like, I used to joke 334 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: with him all the time, like Wash, where have you 335 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: been all my life? Like I wish I would have 336 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: had all this stuff so along with Bryce Eldridge and 337 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Raphaeldever's at first base, like he has a chance to 338 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: make them really good. And you know I'm joking about 339 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 1: gold glove, but why not to me? And I'll let 340 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: you talk here. Like to me, defense like offense has 341 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: a ceiling, it's God given. Yet hold out a second 342 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: offense has a ceiling, it's God given. You can work 343 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: your ass off in the cage and you can only 344 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: get so far. Defense is an attitude and a work 345 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: ethic and wanting to do it in like a guy 346 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: like Wade Boggs that made fifty errors in the minor 347 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: leagues became a really good third baseman because he worked 348 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: at it. So now you've got guys that know what 349 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: they're doing, can implement it, and we're with work ethic there. 350 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: It's like even even a Damas who at times last 351 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: year would short arm baseballs and double pump with his 352 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: glove and get off rhythm with his legs. Chapy, you 353 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: just leave alone. But like, so this is going to 354 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: influence the infield defense a lot. And I think I 355 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: think Bryce elders while you say doesn't have a position, 356 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: and I kind of agree with you as we talk 357 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: right now and as we speak. But with Ron Washington there, 358 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: the influence is going to be unbelievable. Okay, I'm done. 359 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: You go, Okay, well, okay, great. Ron Washington could turn 360 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: Eldridge into a phenomenal first basement. Rafaeld Devers is still 361 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: there and he's Rathfaeld Devers, and I think he's going 362 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: to be a better first baseman than Eldridge because he 363 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: was a you know, an okay, major league third baseman 364 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: and he barely played any first base last year, you know, 365 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: and looked pretty good. So I think he's only going 366 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: to get better, and he's going to be working with Washington. 367 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be an outstanding first baseman. Honestly, 368 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: if Ron Washington could turn Bryce Eldridge into an outstanding 369 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: right field or somehow problem solved, that's the position they need. 370 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: It's kind of almost too bad. I mean, I love 371 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: the Devers Deeld it was brilliant. It came out of nowhere, 372 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: but it's kind of left Eldridge without without an everyday spot, 373 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: and I you know, at twenty one year old DH, 374 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: that's not ideal, you know. I do think he could 375 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: be a good first Baseman. I do. I don't. I 376 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: don't doubt that JT. Snow has talked extensively, including here 377 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: on our show, about you know, how he thinks that 378 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: Bryce Eldridge has improved and the big strides he's taken 379 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: and how much more he can and will improve. So 380 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: I do think that that's the reason I feel like 381 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: he doesn't have a position is because of Devors, not 382 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: really because of Bryce Eldridge. So yeah, but a little 383 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 2: bit hyperbolic with my he doesn't have a position stance, 384 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: that's not really what I feel like. But I think 385 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: he's blocked. I think he's most basically mostly blocked by Devers. 386 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: So hey, do they trade Deverse? Don't? I don't see 387 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: that happening, But I wouldn't do that. What they need, though, 388 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: is they gig a big bat, good fielding right field 389 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 2: or center field or either of those things. I think 390 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: would be fantastic and I think should be their top priority, 391 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: because the offense is what really limited this team last year. 392 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm gonna need a scoop out of 393 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: you soon, and hopefully tomorrow we find out about the 394 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: coaches staff for the Giants. The rest of the coaching 395 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: staff for the Giants. But we got to talk about 396 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Hey, we got to talk about 397 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: Jeff Kent and Barry Bonds, and Jeff is in. Barrie's 398 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: not your thoughts on that. I have my own thoughts 399 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: on that, but I want to let you go first 400 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: because I was talking so much a minute ago. So 401 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? 402 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean, what else is new? 403 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: That's why I drink this right here, a little coffee. 404 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: Maybe slow down, you know, I never know how to 405 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: approach some of the Hall of Fame questions because I'm 406 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: a little bit too close to it. I was on 407 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: the Eras Committee the first time Barry Bonds and Roger 408 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: Clements were up before the committee. I'm on the ballot 409 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 2: committee that formulates the ballot for the Eras committees. Both 410 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: both jobs are taking extremely seriously and really enjoy and 411 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: we're asked not to speak about the inner workings of 412 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 2: any of the committees for obvious reasons. I mean, this 413 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: is this the stuff where there are a lot of 414 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: people involved. We all take it very seriously, but you know, 415 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: some of it's a little it can be a little 416 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: bit sensitive, especially for the Hall. I get that, and 417 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: there's nothing more sensitive than sort of the steroid subject. 418 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: But before I was averund any of these committees, I 419 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: always said, and I continue to say, we will know 420 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: how the Hall of Fame really feels about Roger Clemens 421 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: and Barry Bonds when they go before the Erask Committee. 422 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: And so far they are over too, and the Hall 423 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: has instituted changes in eligibility that essentially will make it 424 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: impossible for either to either of them to get in 425 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: certainly for the near future. Look that any of these 426 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: rules can change at any time. If they've changed rules, 427 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: all it takes is, you know, different people involved, or 428 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: a different you know, stance on the steroid era in general, 429 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: and things could certainly change. Who knows, But Bonds now 430 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: because he did not get five votes yesterday will not 431 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: be eligible the next time in three years when this 432 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: Eras committee meets again, And if he doesn't get five 433 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: votes at least five votes that time, he won't be 434 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: back on ever you know, well ever is again, you 435 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: know whatever, lose loosely these under these rules, he would 436 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 2: not get back in. So those rules could could potentially 437 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: change in the future. Jeff Kent, I love it when 438 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: anyone gets into the Hall of Fame I feel like 439 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: this era in particular is very underrepresented, and I feel very, 440 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: very strongly that second base is underrepresented. You know, Lou 441 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: Whittaker is still not in, Bobby Gritch is still not in. 442 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: These are very good candidates. So I love that a 443 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: second baseman who Jeff Kent is not only the all 444 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: time leading home h hitter among second he's the leading 445 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: home run hitter among middle infielders because he has hit 446 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: more than any shortstops, so very deserving. I covered him 447 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: as a backup in Sacramento and a little bit in 448 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: San Francisco, and I always enjoyed my interactions with him. 449 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: I know he had a reputation as being kind of 450 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: gruff and difficult at times, but I thought he was 451 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: really interesting to talk to and pretty accommodating. I thought 452 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: that always got a little overblown. And watching Bonds and 453 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: Kent in that lineup back to back was for a 454 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: baseball fan, for a baseball reporter, for anybody that loves baseball, 455 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: that was, I mean, borderlinees surreal. That was like the 456 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: great one of the greatest combinations of all time, just 457 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: flat out amazing. 458 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that Jeff got in. You know, he 459 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: was a good teammate. He helped me out a lot 460 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: that the year with him. We used to joke that 461 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: he had three different personalities, JK, Chuckles, and Mikey. JK 462 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: was the guy that sat in his locker and didn't 463 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: say anything. Chuckles was when he had three hits, and 464 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: Mikey is when he was pissed off and you had 465 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: to stay away from him. So he had like three 466 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: different personalities that we used to joke about. But he 467 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: gave me a great hitting tip one day and he said, 468 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: I noticed you did something last at bat. You filed 469 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: a pitch off and then you took the same pitch 470 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: right down the middle, And he said, if you file 471 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: a pitch off, don't get away from your game plan. 472 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: If that's the pitch you were sitting on, stay on 473 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: that pitch because the pitcher is going to think that 474 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: you're switching to another pitch and he's going to double 475 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: up on that pitch. I can't tell you how many 476 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: hits I got that year, and this was toward the 477 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: end of my career, where if I did file a 478 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: pitch off, I would stay on that pitch and I 479 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: get it again. So I go to him like JK. 480 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: That's great man, Thank you so much. 481 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: So. 482 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: He was a good teammate. You just had to know 483 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: when to approach him. And the dynamic between him and 484 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: Barry was like two little kids trying to outdo each other. 485 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Like if Jeff had two rows on the playing Barry 486 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: had to have three. If Barry was five minutes late 487 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: for stretching and Jeff would be six minutes late for stretching. 488 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: Because there was always that ego dynamic between those two, 489 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: which I think made them better a lot. I think 490 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: they pushed each other in different ways. You couldn't have 491 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: had two more guys. And if this, I apologize, this 492 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense that we're polar opposite but the same. 493 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 1: Like they came from different backgrounds. They you know, they 494 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: were different people, but when it came to being great 495 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: and wanting to be great, they were equal in that sense, 496 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: and they pushed each other and they made each other better. 497 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: I knew Jeff when he was eighteen at cal Berkeley. 498 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: I was a sophomore playing baseball at cal Berkeley. Came 499 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: back for my sophomore year and they recruited this shortstop 500 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: from Long Beach. It was a cowboy. I don't still 501 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: don't get the cowboys. 502 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: From I'm we're all confused about it, and I still. 503 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: Don't get that healthic. But and Jeff when he was eighteen, 504 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: was tough man. He was like he didn't care what 505 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: anybody thought about him. He was super cocky. He wasn't 506 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: well liked, if I'm being honest. As an eighteen year 507 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: old freshman Cal Berkeley. So I was supposed to take 508 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: over at shortstop and he came in and he was 509 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: playing shortstop and throwing balls in the stands. He made 510 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty years in fallball. I had a great 511 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: fall ball And it came to opening day and he 512 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: was starting at shortstop and I was back on the 513 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: bench of my sophomore year. So after about twelve games, 514 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: I went and talked to Bob Milano, the head coach there, 515 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: and I said, do you see me playing here because whatever, whatever, whatever, 516 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: And do you see me playing Passcal? And he said no, 517 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: I don't. Very honest, he said, I want you to 518 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: use your scholarship for a great education. I said, thanks, 519 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: you can have my scholarship. I'm transferred. But now the 520 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: point in that story is I get to say I 521 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: got beat out by a Hall of Famer. So that's 522 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Hall of Famer beat me out at shortstop 523 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: in college. 524 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'd take it. Yeah, it's that's really cool. 525 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: I mean it really, it's does it Rey? It just 526 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: it just looks so weird, right. You look at those 527 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: teams and you go like, well, obviously both of those 528 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: guys should be in. It's like the the steroid I 529 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: feel like there should be a better solution for dealing 530 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: with this stoid era. And you know, Kent was one 531 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: of the guys who was very vocally in favor of 532 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: testing kind of earlier than other guys. He was very 533 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: vocal anti cheater. I think that probably helped him with 534 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: the committee too, along with all his I mean, he 535 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: got in for obviously baseball accomplishment reasons, but he always 536 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: was one of those guys, like, you know, I covered 537 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: Frank Thomas. Frank Thomas was the same way. These were 538 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: guys who pretty early on were saying, hey, like we've 539 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: got a problem here. Baseball was slow to respond to that. 540 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: I think that the fact that some of the architects 541 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: of the game and the people who were the leaders 542 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: of the game and that era are in the Hall 543 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: of Fame after not taking some steps that would have 544 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: maybe ended the stooid era a little earlier. I feel 545 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: like maybe holding two people accountable for it is a 546 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: little bit is potentially a little bit unfair. We all 547 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 2: wrestle with it, right like we all wrestle with it. 548 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 549 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame is a it's a museum, and 550 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 2: it's a shrine to the game's greats. And love him 551 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: or hate am very was the greatest player probably ever. 552 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: So it's just it's all strange, but good. Good for 553 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: Jeff Kent, and you know what, It's fun to see 554 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 2: somebody who's had that reputation is like, I'm tough and 555 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: I'm kind of I've got this edge. And he's been 556 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: so emotional these past two days. I swear every time 557 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: John Shay asked him a question, he started crying, like, 558 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: who are you, Jeff Kent? 559 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: That might be Mikey. 560 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that was Mikey. 561 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: But I gotta I gotta speak about Barry. And I 562 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: did a Giants thing at the ballpark yesterday and one 563 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: of the questions I got from the people at the 564 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: ballpark was what I thought about Barry Bonds in the 565 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. They said it's gonna happen at four 566 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: o'clock today, And I've said this publicly and it's probably controversial, 567 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: but I don't think the Hall of Fame is the 568 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame until Barry Bonds is put in it. 569 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Until you can tell me how many pictures that Barry 570 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: Bonds hit home runs off of that were on steroids. 571 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Then when you live that and you know how rampant 572 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 1: it was and how many guys that were taking it 573 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: that were never in the Metro Report Team photo which 574 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm in, you just can't really judge. So when you 575 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: talk about his career in what he did and how 576 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: base the Hall of Fame tells the story about baseball. 577 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: And I just think it's a shame that maybe one 578 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: hundred years from now, when we're all dead and buried, 579 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: that people might not know the story of Barry Bonds. 580 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: So whatever you think about Barry, like, the story has 581 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: to be told. If you go to the Smithsonian Museum 582 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: in Washington, d c. Of American history, like there's parts 583 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: of our American history that aren't flattering, there's parts of 584 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: like our history that aren't cool, but they tell the 585 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: story in that Museum of the History of the United 586 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: States of America. So along those lines, I feel like 587 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame has to tell the story regardless 588 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: of what's going on. And I texted Barry today and 589 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: he got right back to me. I said, are you okay. 590 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: I said that I think it's complete bs, and that 591 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: was my text and being fully transparent here, and he 592 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: texted me back he said, I'm blessed, Bud, and I said, 593 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: you are so yeah. I just I understand it. I 594 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: wish they would have both got in. But I'm sticking 595 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: to my guts in this that he was the best 596 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: player that I ever even was around playing against him, 597 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: and then to be his teammate for a year, and 598 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: how well he treated me as his teammate when I 599 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: heard that that could be the contrary, and how well 600 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: he's treated my family and my son, and even to 601 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: this day I consider my friend. It's just it's not 602 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: the hall and place. I think it's terrible. 603 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what the counterpoint is that there 604 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: are a number of Barry's artifacts in the Hall of Fame. 605 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: You know, he like bones is in there. 606 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: His towbone is in there, and they dusted it off 607 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: and then they just put this is Barry Bond's toe. 608 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: You know, bad Balls and Gloves FP, and I think 609 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: it's still up. There was an exhibit about the steroid era, 610 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: you know, and there's Kenseko stuff in there, and Bash 611 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: Brothers stuff and Barry Bond stuff and and all of that. 612 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: And someday you and I probably should have a full 613 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: pod just on the steroid era. You were in the 614 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: middle of it. You you you know, you you're not 615 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: gonna name names and stuff, but you dealt with all 616 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: of that as you as you've alluded to, and I'm 617 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: glad you did. But I just feel like, uh, it's 618 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: it's just a I don't understand how the Hall is 619 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: and baseball in general sort of has approached the steroid era. 620 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's and it it's so long ago, 621 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: and and you're talking about some of the games. Great, 622 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: there's guys Clements too in the Hall that did this. 623 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: This is oh well yeah, I mean it's. 624 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: Not the Vatican. 625 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: It's not like I covered guys who are in the 626 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: Hall who I'm you know, I'm just gonna leave that 627 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: right there. But uh, Roger Clemens, I mean, we're we 628 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: just keep mentioning Roger Clemens was one of the greatest 629 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: pictures of all times and and the greatest picture of 630 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: his era. I mean, this is okay. You know again, 631 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm probably not supposed to say quite so much since 632 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm on these committees, but yeah, there there are new 633 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: things in place, and it's kind of changed the complexion 634 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: of what we're looking at. And I think we do 635 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: know what what, how the how the hall feels about 636 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: the stories are and how they're going to deal with it. 637 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: They've they've told us without actually saying so too bad 638 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: and oh hey a note f P. On the coaching staff. 639 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: I did find out who the last two guys are today. 640 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: I just know I'm not sure exactly the roles. And 641 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: then as I said, they sort of said they're still 642 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: trying to figure out some roles. But Shane Robinson and 643 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: Hector Borg we're both added to the staff. It hasn't 644 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: been announced, but I was told those are the final 645 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: two names, both internal promotions, which is fantastic. I love 646 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: it when guys from within the system are brought up, 647 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: so fantastic. Looking forward to getting to know those guys. 648 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: Guess is that I don't know if it's a first 649 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 2: base third base situation, or if there's somebody else's going 650 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: to have different rules and they're going to figure those out. 651 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: But I think those are the two names, and hopefully 652 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: they will give us the full rundown on the coaching 653 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: staff very soon. That would be great. I mean, I 654 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: would like more news than that, frankly tomorrow, but I'll 655 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: take I'd take it. 656 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: Well, maybe we'll do an emergency pod of something big breaks. 657 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know those guys, so I'm not gonna 658 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: sit here in comment. I'd like to get to know 659 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: them this season. I'm looking forward to getting to know 660 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: everybody in the staff that Tony and Buster and Zach Hyer. 661 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: How are we doing on subscriptions these days? 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Yeah, 672 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: I think this week is going to be dedicated to 673 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 2: winter meeting stuff, just because this is the week, that's 674 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: all anybody wants to talk about. But let's do a 675 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: mailbag soon next next week, we'll tell the people how 676 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 2: to get in touch with you with me. You can 677 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: do it on the YouTube comments, you can do it 678 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: on my twitter, you can do on a FP's Twitter. 679 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: I we would love to do some sort of mail 680 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: bag thing because we both I think we both really 681 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: like interacting with fans. Honestly, FP. I tell people this 682 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: all the time, like, do not discount fan comments or questions. 683 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: I've gotten ideas from fan questions before. Yes, I've got 684 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 2: the story ideas I've gotten. I've asked questions to team 685 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: officials based on things that fans have asked me, and 686 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: I've been I thought like, that's a great question. You know, 687 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: I don't have all the answers. You definitely don't have 688 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: all the answers. So I want to hear from you 689 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 2: guys and maybe start up a little conversation and try 690 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: to get that going a little bit. Uh. Frequently Also, 691 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: I won't be here all the time. I'm just kind 692 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: of a regular contributor, so you know, f P you 693 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: can just you can do like full mail bags sometimes 694 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: if you want, because I'm sure you're going to get 695 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: some good ones. You're you're used to that from the 696 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: radio days anyway. But I love that idea. 697 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get pissed off ideas from some of the 698 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: comments too, So that's really cool. And I have a 699 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: winter meeting with a beer here coming up shortly. That 700 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: was a good show, Susan, thanks a lot for taking 701 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: time out. I know you have busy days there in Orlando. 702 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do an emergency pod. We'll see they see 703 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: what's going on. So thanks for your time tonight. That 704 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: was fun, my pleasure all right. Like I say the 705 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: way out every single time, you say it on my 706 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: radio show and can be our swing heart in case 707 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: you hit it on the splash It podcast.