1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: tracking down all of the big stories out there. At 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, Jason Miarez, who is the 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Attorney General of the state of Virginia running for reelection 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: in about three weeks against a guy who frankly has 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: done some said some pretty awful things. We will get 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: into all of that with him, and then in the 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: third hour we're going to be joined by our friend 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Jack Carr, who is one of the most successful fiction 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: writers in America right now, and he's got a brand 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: new book out. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: We will discuss that with him. 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: But I was reading this Buck, and I want to 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: make sure that I get this, and I probably am 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: mispronouncing this guy's name, but his name is Eric Pacifici, 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: and again I apologize if I mispronounce that he is 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: a attorney. And he has a good thread that I 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: was reading during the most recent commercial break, and I 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: just want to hit this because it goes directly to 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: what we were talking about with Letitia James, and he says, 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: not trying to make a political point here. I spent 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: years as a mortgage banker at Quicken Loans now Rocket Mortgage, 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: the number one mortgage lender in the country before I 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: ever went to law school. 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: Here's the deal. 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: How you classify a property as a primary, secondary, or 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: investment home changes everything about the loan, the down payment, 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: the interest rate, the underwriting, all of it. Primary or 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: secondary homes can get by with as little, he says, 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: as three to ten percent down. Investment properties usually require 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: twenty five percent or more. So if you're a brand 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: new real estate investor with limited cash, there's a big 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: incentive to call something a quote second home instead of 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: an investment property. But that's why lenders make you sign 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: a second home writer a separate document where you specifically 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: promise you'll use it as a second residence, not rent 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: it out. You also assert, like not times in the 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: application process, it will be owner occupied. Could this kind 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: of thing ever be an honest mistake? I doubt it. 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: The facts, at least as reported, look pretty bad. You 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: buy a house, say it's a second home, immediately rent 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: it out till you're insure its owner occupied, and then 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: report rental income on your taxes. That's not a misunderstanding. 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: That's a pattern, and it just continues again. The wild 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: part is she's a lawyer, she's the Attorney General of 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: New York. She's prosecuted the former president for similar financial representations. 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: You'd think someone with that background would fully understand what 48 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: those documents say and what it means to misstate intent 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: on a loan. It's going to be a tough case 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: for her to defend unless she's able to present additional 51 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: information in the meantime, lots of financial and life lessons 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: in the story for all of us. I just thought 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: that was interesting. That's someone who deals all the time, 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: as I'm sure many of you out there have in 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: the mortgage industry. Again reiterating what we have said, which 56 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: is this is not something that would have been likely 57 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: to have occurred as an error, particularly not someone who 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: is the chief law enforcement officer of the State of 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: New York. Okay, so that a little bit of a 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: bow on that discussion for all of you. Now, last 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: night in Virginia, Buck, I was watching this early this 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: morning when I got up. I know you were watching. 63 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: I saw some of it last night. I want to 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: play a couple of these cuts, and some of them 65 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: are a bit long, but I think it's important for 66 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you guys to hear exactly how long these answers are 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: because it speaks to an unwillingness to answer direct questions. 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: And I actually give credit to the debate moderators who 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: were asking questions and then doing something crazy when they're 70 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: not answered, following up, Hey, this is kind of a 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: yes or no question. So let's play this when it's 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: a bit long. This is Abigail Spanberger Democrats. Why don't 73 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: we play it and we can stop it? Do they 74 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: do the whole thing or they have it in multiple clips, 75 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: because we could probably stop start this one, because it's 76 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: really you want to hear the whole thing. Yeah, we'll 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: stop start it, but this is the long one. This 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: is buck This is a couple of minutes here. This 79 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: is her repeatedly refusing to say if men should be 80 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: allowed to compete in girls sports and use girls' locker rooms. 81 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: This is that first one cut seven. 82 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: Focusing on a K through twelve school system. Should transgender 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: girls who are biological males be allowed to use girls' 84 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: bathrooms and play on girls' sports teams? 85 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: You have sixty seconds. 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 5: I'm a mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools, 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: and nothing is more important to me than their safety 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 5: and their experience in schools. I'm also a former federal agent, 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 5: and I work to investigate crimes against children, and so nothing. 90 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 4: Is more important to me than the safety. 91 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: Of all of our children, and that work, in part, 92 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 5: has earned me the endorsement of Virginia's police Benevolent Associations. 93 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: Talking issues related to what's happening in our schools in 94 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 5: each individual community, I think it's important that we have 95 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: parents and teachers and administrators making decisions about their individual schools, 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: not politicians. 97 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: And if we are talking about the safety of our. 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 5: Children, I would ask why my opinion continues to support 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: efforts to defund public safety, an effort carried on continually 100 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: by this mispanstration. 101 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: Once again, the question was should transgender girls who are 102 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: biological males be allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: on girls sports teams? In K through twelve? You have 104 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: fifteen seconds to clarify. 105 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 5: In cases across Virginia. I think it's incumbent upon parents 106 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 5: and educators and administrators in each local community to make 107 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 5: decisions locally. 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: That's what this is about. 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 5: There should never be indess. 110 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 6: We finally have her saying that, but you voted for that. 111 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: Now this is Miss Spanberger's time. 112 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: Have a follow up question for Miss Spanberger, would you 113 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: rescind the young and administration policy requiring boys and girls 114 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sex? 115 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: You have thirty seconds. 116 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: My priority would be to ensure that local communities, importantly 117 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: parents and teachers, that's educators, are able to work together 118 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: to meet the unique needs of each school in each community. 119 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 4: Girls. 120 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 5: And that and I say that as a mother of 121 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: three daughters in Virginia public schools exactly, and as someone 122 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 5: who used to investigate crimes against children. The way that 123 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 5: we keep our children's is by ensuring they are safe 124 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: in schools, which includes funding law enforcement and public safety. 125 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: But Miss span Burger, the question was should the young 126 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: Would you rescind the youngin administration policy requiring boys and 127 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: girls to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sex? You 128 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: have fifteen seconds to clarify that question. 129 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: Yes, and my answer is that in each local community, 130 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 5: decisions should be made between parents and educators and teachers 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 5: in each community. It shouldn't be dictated viral chlititicians. 132 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: Please don't interrupt you. We're coming to you next. 133 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, Buck, This is devastating, Yeah, because this is 134 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 7: where the Democrat party is right now. Span Burger is 135 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 7: pretending to be something she's not, or rather, she's making 136 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 7: sure that no one knows what she is. That's the 137 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 7: whole game here. She is a Democrat. Democrats have to 138 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 7: say trans dudes have to be able to go in 139 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 7: to your daughter, your wife, et cetera's locker room and 140 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 7: bathroom under law. Okay, it's a civil rights issue. That 141 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 7: is what Democrats as a party mandate. This is orthodoxy. 142 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 7: You're not allowed to deviate from this. But she is 143 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 7: playing this game of well, it's about the communities, and 144 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 7: there should be conversations, and next she's gonna say, I'm a. 145 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 8: Mother of three and I like girls that are in 146 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 8: school public schools. 147 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 7: It's it's sound the most circular nonsense evasion imaginable on 148 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 7: a debate stage. If you're listening to us in Virginia 149 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 7: and you have not gotten out and voted for Winsome Seers, 150 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 7: I don't know, frankly, what you're doing in your And 151 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 7: I appreciate the fact that all of you are listening 152 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 7: to us in Virginia. If you are not out voting 153 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 7: for Winsome Seers right now, I would submit to you 154 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 7: that you need a check because I think people may 155 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 7: have gotten a little bit a little bit happy with 156 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 7: the Trump win. They got Glenn Youngkin there, let me 157 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 7: play this two buck because this Jay Jones character who's 158 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 7: running And we're going to talk with the current Attorney 159 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 7: General of Virginia, Jason Miarrez about this in just a 160 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 7: moment at the bottom of the hour. But this was 161 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 7: another devastating moment from this debate. And again, listen to 162 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 7: the questioners. I give them credit for going back and saying, hey, 163 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 7: you know, the question is really just a yes or no. 164 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 7: It's not a complicated question. They also ask why she 165 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 7: hasn't asked Jay Jones to drop out of the race 166 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,479 Speaker 7: based on frankly awful text messages wishing death. 167 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: On the children of his political opponents. Here's cut nine. 168 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 9: I didn't hear an answer there on the endorsement issue, 169 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 9: so I want to just make sure will you continue 170 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 9: to endorse Jay Jones to be the next Attorney General 171 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 9: of Virginia? And were you aware of these text messages 172 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 9: before they released? 173 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 4: You have thirty seconds. 174 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: In fact, it appears that it was those who released 175 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 5: the text messages and held them for years, so the 176 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 5: public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages. 177 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: For many of us, you. 178 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 5: Text messages the day that they came out, and I 179 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 5: denounced them as soon as I learned of. 180 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: Importantly, at this. 181 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 5: Point, as we move forward, the voters now have this information, 182 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: information that was withheld for them. 183 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: You're running, presumably for. 184 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 5: Affairs reasons, but the voters now have the information and 185 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: it is up to voters to make an individual choice 186 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: based on this information. 187 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 9: Miss Memory, I understand what you're saying about the voters, 188 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 9: But for you yourself, do you still continue to endorse. 189 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: Jay Jones fifteen seconds? Yes or no? We are all 190 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: running our individual races. 191 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 10: I believe my opponent has said that about her lieutenant 192 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 10: governor nominee affairs and up theirs every person to make 193 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 10: their own decision. I am running my race to serve 194 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 10: Virginia and that is what I intend to do. 195 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: Thank you you. 196 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 7: Oh sorry, she's an etch a sketch politician. Well, whatever 197 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 7: you want it to be. What I'll say whatever I 198 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 7: need to say in the moment so that people don't 199 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 7: know what I actually believe. Here's what everybody should know. 200 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 7: She is a Democrat. She will do the will of 201 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 7: the Democrat Party when she is in power in that state. 202 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 7: That is very obvious. Everything in the meantime is an 203 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 7: evasion so that people who don't pay much attention, who 204 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 7: rely on TV commercials for who they're going to vote for. 205 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 7: And you know, the whole game here Clay is to 206 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 7: fool voters enough voters that once she's in power, Oh, 207 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 7: she knows the answers, or she has answers to all 208 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 7: these questions, She's just not going to answer them with 209 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 7: anyone paying attention until it's too late. Once the voters 210 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 7: have had their say and she has pulled off the swindle, 211 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 7: then you'll see that she is all about the LGBTQ 212 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 7: IA plus plus plus agenda and trans writes and trannies 213 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: in the bathroom with your wives and your daughters and 214 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 7: everything else. 215 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: The whole thing. 216 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: It's not dissimilar to the way they ran Biden. Biden 217 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: got into office as a moderate, and then he got 218 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: there and you saw that he actually was going to 219 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: govern as a far left wing, insane person. Virginia. 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Spend time with Clay and 252 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 8: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 253 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 8: get your podcasts. 254 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in to Playing Buck. 255 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 7: We were talking about that Virginia governor's race debate and 256 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 7: how Spanberger was just running in circles. 257 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: Really one of the. 258 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 7: Most absurd debate performances for somebody who does not have, 259 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 7: you know, late stage elderly person cognitive dementia. One of 260 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 7: the most absurd performances I've ever seen. And it's, like 261 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 7: I said, all along, that's why, whatever her name is, 262 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 7: whatever her politics are, she's just supposed to be a 263 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 7: mediocre cipher. You know, somebody you can put whatever you want. Oh, 264 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 7: she stand for this, I don't know. She seems nice, 265 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 7: she's got kids or something. 266 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: Who cares. 267 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 7: She is trying to fool people. She's being dishonest about 268 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 7: who she is and win some sears was not having 269 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 7: it on that debate stage. The lieutenant governor, the current 270 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 7: lieutenant governor. Here she is pointing out what needed to 271 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 7: be pointed out. Play ten. 272 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 5: It is extraordinarily important that we have transparency and that 273 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 5: there is a clear market in order to be enforced, 274 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 5: because it is in the absence of an open. 275 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: And clear and. 276 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 5: Extraordinarily transparent market that law enforcement is not able. 277 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: What you're saying, miss Spenburg, your time is up. 278 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you heard that. 279 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 7: You don't even know what you're saying, which is absolutely correct, Clay. 280 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 7: She is just babbling. It's just words coming out of 281 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 7: span Berger's mouth that have no actual meaning beyond trying 282 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 7: to run the clock out so people can't figure out 283 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 7: she's a Democrat like all the rest. 284 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's another good one here that I thought 285 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: was also you don't even know what you're saying. This 286 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: is also cut nine. We have time for this one too. 287 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Listen to this one, Buck, because I thought this was win. 288 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: Some sears at her best last night in the debate, listen, well, 289 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: I think. 290 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 11: As everybody knows, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian before 291 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 11: I'm a Republican, and I'm required to forgive people. And 292 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 11: it's hard sometimes when somebody has abused you, etc. But 293 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 11: something you must do because not to forgive is almost like, 294 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 11: as someone said, you drink poison thinking that it's going 295 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 11: to affect the other person. And I want to live 296 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 11: a decent life. And I don't want to not have 297 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 11: peace in my life. And so I, as I've said before, 298 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 11: I would not say that. So that's why I'm wondering 299 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 11: why my opponent won't say, beyond its abhorrent and disgusting, 300 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 11: why she won't say it is not okay and that 301 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 11: he must leave the race. Because Jay Jones advocated the murder, Abigail, 302 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 11: the murder of a man, a former speaker, as well 303 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 11: as his children who were two years, two and five 304 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 11: years old. 305 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: You have little girls. Would it take him pulling the trigger? 306 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 12: Is that? 307 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: What would do it? And then you would say he 308 00:16:59,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: needs to. 309 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 6: Get out of the race, Abigail, you have nothing to say, Abigail. 310 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 6: What if he said it about your two children, your 311 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: three children. 312 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: Is that when you would say he. 313 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 6: Should get out of the race, Abigail, you're running to 314 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 6: the governor. 315 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: I thought that was really good. 316 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: If you watch that video, Abigail Spanberger just looks like 317 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: a sociopath, staring straight ahead, refusing to look at wins Sears. 318 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: If you're gonna say all the time, I've got three daughters, 319 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: I've got three daughters there in public school, like she said, 320 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: as if she were a robot, why not have to 321 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: address the fact that the attorney general nominee for Democrats 322 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: wanted the kids of the Virginia Speaker of the House 323 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: to die to teach a lesson to the mom and 324 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: dad because he said they were raising fascists. 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We were just playing a lot of cuts 352 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: from the governor's debate last night, Jason, which I'm assuming 353 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: that you watched in full and for people out there 354 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: who have not heard, I jotted down a lot of 355 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: the awful things that Jay Jones said and will run 356 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: through them. But can you believe that he's still running 357 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: for the office of Attorney general based on the stories 358 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: that are out there right now about calling for someone's 359 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: kids who was the Virginia Speaker of the House to die, 360 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: to send them a message saying they're being raised as fascits. 361 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's truly vile and reprehensible, and I was 362 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of stunned that anybody would say it, much less 363 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: somebody who's running to be the chief law enforcement officer 364 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: of a state. 365 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 12: Yeah. I mean, I gotta admit, as attorney general or 366 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 12: your job, your number one job is to stop violence. 367 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 12: I can't imagine someone running for this position as advocated 368 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 12: for it. And you know, part of why this has 369 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 12: been so surreal for me is I previously part of 370 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 12: being Attorney general, I served in the General Assembly in 371 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 12: Virginia with Jay and Todd Todd. Gilbert Todd is a 372 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 12: personal friend of mine. In fact, during session, me, him 373 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 12: and another legislators will get an airbnb. He was my 374 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 12: roommate during session. He's a personal friend. I know Jennifer, 375 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 12: so does Jay Jones. I mean, Jennifer Gilbert would come 376 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 12: to the Assembly, Jennifer Gilbert would bring her children. You 377 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 12: would see them running down the hall or on the 378 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 12: house floor. So this wasn't some hypothetical. Part of what 379 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 12: makes this so startling to me was the fact that 380 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 12: at the ages of Todd's children when he sent these 381 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 12: text messages was they were two and five years old. 382 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 12: And I gotta tell you when this first broke, you know, 383 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 12: my team was all like, you've got to get a 384 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 12: statement out, and I said, just stop. I need some 385 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 12: time to process this because just imagine this politics aside. 386 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 12: Imagine somebody's saying this about a friend of yours and 387 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 12: their family. Imagine how you would feel. And so the 388 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 12: idea that he would say this about someone he knows, 389 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 12: someone he's worked with, children that he has met, I 390 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 12: think has just made this at a different level that 391 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 12: has just astonished me. And you know that it seems 392 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 12: like you are seeing a few Democrats outside of Virginia 393 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 12: that clearly indicated they can't vote for him. But as 394 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 12: far as right now, the political class in Virginia right 395 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 12: now is saying these are horrible texts he needs to 396 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 12: be held accountable, but they don't say what accountability looks like. 397 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 12: I think Virginia voters are going to hold him accountable 398 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 12: for sure. 399 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 7: Well, mister me I turned in, gentlemen, we are as 400 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 7: I got to ask the moment where on the debate stage, 401 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 7: and we played it for this audience just a few 402 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 7: minutes ago, where the Lieutenant governor asked Abigail Spanberger if 403 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 7: she still endorses Jay Jones for attorney general. How can 404 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 7: you have somebody who is hoping to be governor who 405 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 7: can't even say that the attorney general from her party 406 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 7: would be attorney general from her party has her full endorsement. 407 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: It just seems like this is a should be a 408 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: non starter. 409 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 12: Well, it's it's clear that's where we are now. And 410 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 12: this remind people that Abigail Spamburger had asked for Ralph 411 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 12: Northam's resignation as governor of the previous governor over a 412 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 12: thirty year old yearbook photo. But to your point, I mean, 413 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 12: I think this should be a question asked of every 414 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 12: elected Democrat or even elected official needis Son in Island, Virginia. 415 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 12: If someone was applying for a job to work in 416 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 12: your office, and it came out during their betting that 417 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 12: they had sent these that expressed the sentiments and had 418 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 12: actually wished or as they hoped, a two to five 419 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 12: year old child would die in their mother's arm. Would 420 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 12: you still hire them? Well, then the extra question of 421 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 12: answers knows then why would you vote to elevate this 422 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 12: person to be literally the top prosecutor in the entire 423 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 12: Commonwealth of Virginia. And it just shows and just for 424 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 12: your listeners realized the background what set Jay Jones on 425 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 12: this path is he was very upset that Todd Gilbert 426 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 12: had said nice words in memory of a moderate Democrat 427 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 12: that served in the Assembly that had passed away. He 428 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 12: was angry that Todd was saying something nice about a 429 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 12: member of his own party. And his response was that 430 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 12: he wanted to be able to pit on the graves 431 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 12: of his political opponents. I mean, think about that where 432 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 12: you're coming from. And for your listeners, you know, I 433 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 12: keep a sign in my office in Richmond. It's one 434 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 12: of my favorite quotes from Thomas Jefferson, and it is this, 435 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 12: I have never found the difference of opinion in politics, philosophy, 436 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 12: or religion to be cause to withdrawal from a friend. 437 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 12: It's just a reminder for me and my job that 438 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 12: I may disagree with you politically, I'm not going to 439 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 12: draw my friendship for you. I had met with victims. 440 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 12: I had never once asked the victim of a crime 441 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 12: whether they ever voted for me in what part of 442 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 12: the are I don't care. My job is to be 443 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 12: the people's protector of everyone. That's such a different mindset 444 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 12: of someone who says I would like to see a 445 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 12: you know, my political opponents have two built bullets in 446 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 12: their head. And when he's texted by his colleague Jay, 447 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 12: you're literally saying you're hoping that Jennifer Gilbert's children die 448 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 12: in her arms. Your responses, yes, because it is only 449 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 12: through change that pain, through pain, the change occurs. Well, 450 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 12: that is a that is an incredibly dark world view 451 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 12: to think that you have to inflict pain on individuals 452 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 12: to somehow achieve a political objective. That is a that 453 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 12: you know, we have some chapters in our history, obviously 454 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 12: as our country, but we set them a long time ago. 455 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 12: We don't. We don't settle our differences with bullets. We 456 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 12: settle at the ballot box. And that's the sign of 457 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 12: a vibrant democracy, and so it's a I do think 458 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 12: this election now in Virginian is not about right versus left. 459 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 12: It's about right versus wrong. It's about a basic standard 460 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 12: of decency, and candidly, it's just nationwide, what is the 461 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 12: signal that can you say anything you want about your opposition, 462 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 12: even saying you helpe violence against their family, and they're 463 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 12: not be a political price? And I think I trust 464 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 12: Virginians are going to get it right, but I think 465 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 12: the stake's here for the larger nation is a sobering one. 466 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: Let me hit you with some of those quotes you 467 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: mentioned them a lit a little bit. I am reading 468 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: from the New York Times, which actually managed to cover 469 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: it today. At one point, Jay Jones, as you said, 470 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: remarked that he would quote piss on the graves of 471 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: Republican delegates when they died. He went on to say 472 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: that if he had two bullets in a gun and 473 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: his choice was to shoot Adolph Hitler, the former Cambodian dictator, 474 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Polepot or Virginia House speaker Todd Gilbert, a Republican, that 475 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: he would shoot mister Gilbert twice. And he said, spoiler 476 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: put Gilbert and the crew with the two worst people 477 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, and he receives both bullets every time. He 478 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: also said that he hoped that Jennifer Gilbert's children would die, 479 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: and he didn't back down. He said, yes, I've told 480 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do 481 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: they move on policies. He then said, I mean, do 482 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: I think Todd who was the Speaker of the House, 483 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: and Jennifer his wife, are evil and that they're breeding 484 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: little fascist Yes, I mean this is vile, vile things 485 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: that Jay Jones is saying. 486 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: So are you surprised? 487 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned that there are some Democrats out of the 488 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: state that are saying even Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer said, yeah, 489 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: I would have trouble voting for Jay Jones. He's the 490 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Democrat governor of Kentucky. Are you surprised that Virginians in 491 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party so far are staying rock ribbed behind 492 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: Jay Jones given what he did? 493 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: Would we know that? He said? 494 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I am surprised. I'm Kim William very surprised, 495 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 12: But I do think that there has been a disconnect 496 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 12: between the political leadership and where everyday Virginians are. Obviously 497 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 12: it's something I am hearing about constantly when I am 498 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 12: out talking to thedividuals. But think about this as well. 499 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 12: What this also tells me that about my opponent is 500 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 12: that he's never actually met with real mothers that have 501 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 12: actually lost their children's to violence. Have I have met 502 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 12: the moms of murdered victims, and I could tell you 503 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 12: that right now, there is no cry like the car 504 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 12: I have a mother that has lost her child. There's 505 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 12: nothing like it. It is. It is soul theory. And 506 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 12: once you've actually experienced that, you you can't even imagine 507 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 12: that on your on anybody, you know, even if they're 508 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 12: your political enemy. But it just shows that he is 509 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 12: as he's not prepared, he's obviously reckless with his his judgment, 510 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 12: and he has a worldview that is is completely incompatible 511 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 12: with this office. Period. And don't forget it also has 512 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 12: come out that he apparently told another colleague that as 513 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 12: far as you know, police violence, that he said, if 514 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 12: you could get rid of qualified immunity to sue police personally, 515 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 12: and maybe if some cops died, and actually they would 516 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 12: change their behavior. And so you've seen the Fraternal Order 517 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 12: Police and a host of other law enforcement organizations also 518 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 12: have come out. You have a group of sheriffs and 519 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 12: commonwealth attorneys in Virginia say that he should not stay 520 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 12: in the race. So you seeing law enforcement has come 521 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 12: out quite forcibly saying we don't want him to be 522 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 12: the top prosecutor in the States period. And so you 523 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 12: have seen I think of, not surprisingly, an enormous amount 524 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 12: of courage from our law enforcement heroes that have come 525 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 12: out quite fortunately, a lot of which are apolitical. The 526 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 12: Virginia State Police Association, which normally rarely ever deals into 527 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 12: anything slightly political, has come out quite Forcully about these remarks. 528 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 12: Because the hardest thing for me is attending the end 529 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 12: of watch funerals for officers that have died in the 530 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 12: line of duty. That is by far the most difficult 531 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 12: moment that you ever have as a public official. You 532 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 12: realize it's the hardest job in America, and you just 533 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 12: sit back and you think, I can't imagine, not that 534 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 12: I think we'd ever attend, but somebody who actually has wished, 535 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 12: because when you talk to these family members and then 536 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 12: they talk about the job and the burden of the 537 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 12: badge and what it means to carry the shield every day, 538 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 12: and earlier this year, I attended the end of Watch 539 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 12: with the officer Camp Gerban Austar, Christopher Reef. They died 540 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 12: February twenty second of this year, two officers in Virginia 541 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 12: Beach gunned down in the line of duty. You know, 542 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 12: you talk to those family, you know, Cameron left behind, 543 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 12: the wife who had just found out she was pregnant 544 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 12: with a baby girl. I mean, you you get those stories. 545 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 12: You meet these law enforcement guardians and you realize what 546 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 12: Jay Jones has said, this world view of violence against 547 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 12: individuals to advance agendas, so outside of the normal frameworks, 548 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 12: I think he's disqualified himself from the job. 549 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 7: Turney, gentleman, areas, could you just tell everybody, with the 550 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 7: couple of minutes we have left, what have you done 551 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 7: as attorney general that has had real impact that you're 552 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 7: proud of, that has shown the kind of law enforcement 553 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 7: focus in there. I love Virginia. It's the state that 554 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 7: it's like a top five in terms of time spent 555 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 7: state for me. I would say, so, I'm I have 556 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 7: family in Charlottesville. I'm very very fond of Virginia. Tell 557 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 7: everybody what you've been doing in your state. 558 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 12: Yeah, well, listen, I came in the office. The Virginia 559 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 12: had a murder rated, a twenty year high, violent crime rate, 560 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 12: a thirty year high, the high levels of addiction desk 561 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 12: ever recorded. And I had this novel Idea Clays. I said, 562 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 12: I I'm going to work with law enforcement, not work 563 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 12: against them. We also saw that we had unacceptable violence. 564 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 12: Our murder rate was driven by violence in certain areas 565 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 12: of the state, certain of our localities. We saw the 566 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 12: five percent of felons were committing over fifty percent of 567 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 12: the violent felonies. So we went after these repea violent offenders. 568 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 12: By the way, a lot of which are in the 569 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 12: narcotics trade. City of Roanoke alone, for example, zero point 570 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 12: one two percent of the population of the City of Ronoke. 571 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 12: That's one fifth of one percent. We're committing over thirty 572 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 12: percent of the homicide. So we went after the small 573 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 12: subset of repeat violent offenders. We investigated them, we indicted, 574 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 12: we in prosecuted them, and the murder rates dropped dramatically. 575 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 12: City of Ronoke sixty two percent dropping our murder rate. 576 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 12: We've had a double digit cross dropping our violent frank 577 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 12: crime rate our sees fire cities is huge reduction. More 578 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 12: people are alive today, we prosecute and have got enough 579 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 12: bettanyl off the streets that would have killed seven million Virginians. 580 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 12: Record settlements against some of the opioid manufacturers that has 581 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 12: gone to treatment. So Virginia is not top ten, we're 582 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 12: not top five. We are now the number one state 583 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 12: in the entire country. And they were all dropping of 584 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 12: addiction death. So from this record high addiction death to 585 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 12: this number one in the country and the drop, huge 586 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 12: dropping reduction or a violent crime. I say, as Attorney General 587 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 12: and the people's protector, I protect all Virginians, whether they're Republican, 588 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 12: Democrat or Independence. We're proud of that record. I've said, 589 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 12: Virginian safety has been my mission from day one. That's 590 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 12: what I'm asking Virginians to rehire me to continue to 591 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 12: do that good work. And definitely don't hire somebody to 592 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 12: be the top prosecutor who a has never been a prosecutor, 593 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 12: as being his wife, B has a legislative voting record 594 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 12: of voting against police and against victims, and C literally 595 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 12: is advocated for violence against his political opponents and said 596 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 12: he hopes to see their children die. He's simply unfit 597 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 12: and disqualified to this office. 598 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: And gentlemen. 599 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 7: Arez appreciate what you've done, sir, and we know our 600 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 7: audience is going to get out there in your state, 601 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 7: those who are listening who live there and help you 602 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 7: pull this one over the finish line. 603 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. 604 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 12: Sure yeah, stand with Jason dot com. Stand with Jason 605 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 12: dot com. 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The pulling worker said there's been a 654 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: steady line every day of early voting. Well, I'm glad 655 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: you went out there cast your ballot. Thank you for 656 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: doing this. Virginia needs to stay read my friends. It's 657 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: up to you. Up to you to tell your friends, 658 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: tell your family to get out there. VIP email from 659 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: Brian Clay, her attitude being Letsia James. Laws are for thee, 660 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: not for me. My attitude. When the law breaks the law, 661 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: there is no law. 662 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: I think that's what I said. 663 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's where things are so coming up, we got 664 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 7: Jack Carr in the next hour. We've also got h 665 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 7: I don't Clay, you know, do you want what you can? 666 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 7: You can tell everybody about some sports things. You tell me, Well, 667 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 7: there's a good story out there. Trump did not win 668 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 7: the Nobel Peace Prize, but the woman who did win 669 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 7: the Nobel Peace Prize dedicated her award to Trump. We 670 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 7: can dive into that a bit again. The twenty hostages 671 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 7: scheduled to be released on Monday, and we will discuss 672 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 7: all of that when we come back. And we've also 673 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 7: got Jimmy Kimmel saying there's no such thing as Antifa. Yeah, 674 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 7: it's not he doesn't exist. Yes, doesn't exist, he says, 675 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 7: that's which is weird. How does he know about antifa 676 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 7: if it doesn't exist, Clay, it's 677 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 1: A great question, like Bigfoot, I guess when we come back, 678 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: we'll break it down for you.