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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Railvalry. No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth, revelry. That's good, Oliver. OK,

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Speaker 1: this is a fun episode. Enjoy. We both literally watched

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Speaker 1: the Paris Hilton documentary before we did this interview, so

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Speaker 1: right off the heels of doing that fresh we interview

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Speaker 1: them and I was really I was sort of like,

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Speaker 1: Paris is like like a woman. She's like an adult.

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Speaker 1: I mean, something shifted. Yeah, no, I mean when you

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Speaker 1: watch it, you definitely get a different person. I do.

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Speaker 1: And then even talking to her today, you can feel

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Speaker 1: a shift. Yeah she's just chilled out. Yeah, she's chilled out.

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Speaker 1: And then we've known them for a long time. I

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Speaker 1: used to live next door to Nicky and it was

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Speaker 1: just fun to sort of connect and catch up. You

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Speaker 1: you still talk to Paris, Yeah, yeah, I see them.

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Speaker 1: I went to Abisa a couple of years back and

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Speaker 1: spend some time. You know, of course, she she spends

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Speaker 1: remember I went to a beese. It's actually kind of

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Speaker 1: a what's happening? Tell Joey, we're busy. This is Joey. Joey, Joey,

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Speaker 1: we're busy. We're trying to do our podcast. Joey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're doing the podcast right now. Are you okay? I

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Speaker 1: love you. I miss you, Joey. I know, but dude,

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Speaker 1: you you you text me you're with big plants? You

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Speaker 1: could you wait right? Call me back immediately? What the

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Speaker 1: fuck is wrong with you? Oh see? Oh so you

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Speaker 1: do that to Joey? No, I don't know. He called

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Speaker 1: me last night. I didn't answer the phone. I was

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Speaker 1: having a romantic night with my wife. And then now

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Speaker 1: today he says, you know, sends me dang, well you

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Speaker 1: are and I had the same romantic night with your

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Speaker 1: wife a few months ago. I'll tell you later. I

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Speaker 1: love him so much. Okay? Enjoy no? No? Uh? Enjoy?

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Speaker 1: Like a question mark at the end was that twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen fourteen? There's nothing else I need to say? What

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Speaker 1: do you mean? Meaning we've just said a lot in

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Speaker 1: this intro. It was a great interview. You're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: it in about thirty eight seconds. Paris and Nikki Hilton, Enjoy.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I loved having the conversation with them after

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Speaker 1: after hold on we did that year? Was was it? Seventeen?

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Speaker 1: it speak for itself. Twenty fourteen. We can't tell everyone everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just twenty fourteen in June, they basically say everything, was it? Jane?

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Speaker 1: I think the interview? Oh look there's why do we

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Speaker 1: Introduce them quickly three four minutes and then boom they're

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Speaker 1: let's do the ads while I'm trying to find these pictures. Enjoy.

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Speaker 1: We've known each other really long. Well. We were just

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Speaker 1: saying Nicky and I used to live on normal place

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Speaker 1: we lived. We were neighbors, were neighbors direct back when

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Speaker 1: LA was fun, Back when La was fun. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about how like, what would it feel like to

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Speaker 1: timing for this. Nikki. What has it been like for you?

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Speaker 1: You're talking about Mom wanted you to be a Hilton

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Speaker 1: and not necessarily Paris and Nikki. The one thing we

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Speaker 1: Oh my, but you're the reason I got sent away.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. How old were you when you went to

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Speaker 1: I think that happens all the time, and all in families.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back a little bit to like

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Speaker 1: la days. You went to New York? You were you

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Speaker 1: guys were? Where? Did you go to school? Again? Did

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Speaker 1: you to Buckley? Mhm? I was at Buckley from like kindergarten,

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Speaker 1: which I don't remember when it was till sixth grade. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that I think I got kicked out? Did you

516
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Speaker 1: kick that your skirt was too short? Yeah? I got

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Speaker 1: in trouble about the skirt, so I would like roll

518
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Speaker 1: it up really short. Harrison Ochie would walk around Buckley Buckley.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to when you come back

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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, because you went to New York, you

521
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Speaker 1: went through that process, and then you went back to

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Speaker 1: La right, and that was like what you were like

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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen eighteen. From my perspective at that age, you

524
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Speaker 1: loved a party. You were out every night, you were,

525
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Speaker 1: you were in the scene. You remember, sure, I was there,

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Speaker 1: I remember, but it was if I mean, if I

527
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Speaker 1: look back now, I mean, yes, now, it's like I

528
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: long for those days when there was no cell phones

529
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: in a club. I mean, it was so fun. Think

530
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Speaker 1: about how much fun we had no I know. I

531
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Speaker 1: mean at the same time, if I was a parent,

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Speaker 1: you know that would be I mean, when I was sixteen,

533
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Speaker 1: I'd be worried. When I was sixteen. You don't have

534
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Speaker 1: to go to my whole story, but like I was

535
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: out with Melanie and it was crazy. I mean I

536
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: was doing crazy, crazy, crazy things. We survived it. This

537
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Speaker 1: is part of what it is to grow up, I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think at some point you

539
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Speaker 1: have to put trust in your kids and let them

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Speaker 1: go and hopefully they fucking survive. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: right now we have cell phones, we have GPS trackers.

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Speaker 1: Back then we had nothing, so it was so fun.

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Speaker 1: So it was so fun. Yeah, no one could find you.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. Social media killed the fun especially, Yeah,

545
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: it really did. You know, frutal, I know, but I

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Speaker 1: mean I can understand why a mother would be nervous,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I mean, were you were you that bad?

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Speaker 1: This is because I don't remember you being I mean,

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Speaker 1: you were a party girl, but were you that crazy

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Speaker 1: one into drugs and fucking and out of your out

551
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: of your mind? I was just having fun. Yeah, think

552
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Speaker 1: from being locked up, I missed out on a lot

553
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Speaker 1: in life, and I just like came out and just

554
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: like I just want to have the best time of

555
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Speaker 1: my life and like we live it on. This was

556
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: addicted to like going out and just getting dressed up

557
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: and just like every single night there was something happening

558
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: and it was just so much fun that I just

559
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: couldn't help myself. This was something that you created to

560
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Speaker 1: protect yourself. You know, you had lived this insane life

561
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Speaker 1: up to that point. You get out, You've been fucked up,

562
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: and now it's like, Okay, I need to be somebody

563
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Speaker 1: else because I can't be me. Me is horrible, Me

564
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Speaker 1: is damaged, and I'm going to create this persona so

565
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Speaker 1: I can be happy and live in that bubble as

566
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Speaker 1: you explained it, right, exactly right, Well that's happening, Nikki.

567
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Speaker 1: In your mind, are you going this is destructive? Or

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Speaker 1: are you going I trust my sister, or are you

569
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Speaker 1: going this is concerning? Like what are you feeling? Is

570
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Speaker 1: that sort of starts to go ESCALATEE Well, at that point,

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Speaker 1: I'm in high school in New York, so we don't

572
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Speaker 1: have social media and whatever like we do today, so

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't really hear about what was going on in La.

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Speaker 1: But I would visit La for Christmas break or spring break,

575
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Speaker 1: and she would sometimes take me out with her. I

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Speaker 1: remember Paris, when you took me out to Dublin's with you,

577
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Speaker 1: eyeliner on me, Pantera Sarah's at the door. She put

578
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: all this side on me, big sunglasses and a cigarette

579
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: in my hand. She's like, you have to smoke in

580
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: line because it will make you look older. So I

581
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: got a gl glimpse of the going out and you know,

582
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: seeing all the celebrities out and the while after party,

583
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: but no one was doing anything bad. People were just

584
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Speaker 1: having fun. I never saw the dark You're crazy. I

585
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: didn't see the dark stuff. Yeah, Nikki, were you ever

586
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: envious of Paris's success and fame? Love this question? Oh,

587
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: it's a very very fair question, having such a famous sibling.

588
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I I go through it still to this day. So

589
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: are you you know? Yeah? No, the answer is no.

590
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: I was always very proud of her, and we were

591
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: raised with that whole mentality that a feather in your

592
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: CAP's a feather in mind and no, and also helps

593
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: that we had such different goals aspiration taste, like we

594
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: had completely different taste in boys. Paris liked like a

595
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: email models and I like god knows what. We always

596
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: had a very different style. Paris was like pink and

597
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: sparkles and Barbie, and I would say I was a

598
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: little more like classic and refined. So we didn't fight

599
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: over boys or clothes, which is what most sisters fight up.

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: So what would you fight? What did you fight over? Like?

601
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Speaker 1: What were your big fight? What is your what is

602
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: what is your what are your disagreements? If you were

603
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: to pinpoint that thing, you're like, oh god, well back

604
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: then or today, well both. Paris is one of the

605
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: most tardy, unresponsive, rude people I've ever remember, like or

606
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, like crazy, she's so flaky. She will not reply,

607
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: and people like important people or business people, like I'm

608
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: trying to do this huge deal with Paris and she

609
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: won't return my email or call, and she just she's

610
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: the worst with communication. So that's that's a big fun.

611
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: It's still to this day. Keep them wanting more. You

612
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: keep them wanting more. They're always going to watch you.

613
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: That's Kurt. That's what Kurt says, let them want more. Oh,

614
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: don't even tell her that. That's so we fight over.

615
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: It's mostly meeting late, Like if we're supposed to meet

616
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Speaker 1: somewhere and I'm late, which I always wanting mental It's

617
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Speaker 1: just I think it's so rude. How late are we talking?

618
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Speaker 1: Like how so let's say, like Christmas dinner is at

619
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Speaker 1: eight o'clock. We all know to lie to her and

620
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: tell her six thirty or six okay, two hours. Well,

621
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Speaker 1: it's like your talk in it. She'll walk in at

622
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Speaker 1: nine thirty. She's so rude. So wait, I want to

623
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: get into this. I know it's such minuitious stuff. But

624
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Speaker 1: like why because my wife is late, right, and I

625
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: always like, well, I don't get it, like do you

626
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: just and I'm asking you this paris like do you

627
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Speaker 1: know that it's six thirty and you look at the

628
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629
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Speaker 1: my thing, Like what what is it? I think as

630
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631
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Speaker 1: distracted or if like something's happening, like I'll start doing

632
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Speaker 1: something else and then i won't look at the clock

633
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Speaker 1: and then I'm like getting ready and then I just

634
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Speaker 1: am getting distracted again. So it's just like that. So

635
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Speaker 1: you're so your action, it's not your fault. I totally

636
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: get that. Yeah, so you I'm basically the same way.

637
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: By the way, she'll also be two hours late. They

638
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: cannot be on time, you know what I'm not. I'm

639
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: not two hours but like I'm always my thing. I

640
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: feel like it's karma because I could be thirty minutes

641
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: early and somehow still end up being thirty minutes late,

642
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how I'd be ready to go,

643
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: but then I'm leaving and then it's like I forgot

644
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: my key and then I forgot to do this, and

645
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: then I go back in and I'm like, oh, look

646
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: at the this whatever. There's always something, so I kind

647
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: of understand. So basically saying early, I just I can't.

648
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm allergic to being late. I find it such a

649
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: sign of disrespect. Even today with Paris. I texted her before,

650
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: I said, we cannot be late. These are two working people.

651
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: They have children, they have shit to do. Don't be late.

652
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: I talk to her like she's my daughter. But it's

653
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 1: not Paris's fault because you just lose this track of time,

654
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: that's all. It's not doing it on purpose, understand me.

655
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: I actually have a question going back to the documentary

656
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: really quick, because when I was watching it, this is

657
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: what I thought. You said that you got out of

658
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: this place, and it kind of lit a fire under you,

659
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: meaning you're like, I'm going to prove my worth. I'm

660
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: setting off on this path with that in mind, would

661
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: you change anything in your life because essentially that is

662
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: what led you to where you are right now. Yeah.

663
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: I think about that a lot. So I'm like, if

664
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: I did not go through that hell, like, I don't

665
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: know if I would be the business woman I am

666
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: today or have that drive because who knows. But being

667
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: in there, I literally was like, I'm going to work

668
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: so hard, become so successful, no one will ever control

669
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: me again. And I've also felt like it was a

670
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: big fuck you to all the people who work there

671
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: who just always were talking down on me. I was like,

672
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: I want to prove them wrong, and I just gave

673
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: me that drive. So I don't know where I would

674
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: be today if I had it went through that. I

675
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't wish that upon anyone. It was hell, But I

676
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: feel that everything does happen in life for a reason,

677
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: and the fact that I'm taking that pain and now

678
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: making a difference and using it to really help other children.

679
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I was meant to go there so I could

680
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: be the one to put an end to it. I

681
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: don't know. Mom always says, all of the good, all

682
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: of the bad, you know, brings you exactly where you

683
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: are today and where you're meant to be. Yeah, And

684
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: what's your relationship like with your dad? I mean, you

685
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: guys still have a good, good relationship with your father,

686
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: both of you guys. Yeah, for you guys. What has

687
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: his point of view on everything, like choice, like life

688
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: choices in terms of you know, things that you do.

689
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Does he have opinions on it or is he just

690
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: sort of there to support you guys. No, my dad

691
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: has instilled a very strong work ethic in both, In

692
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: both of us, I think at a young age he

693
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: told us you have to get a job, and you

694
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: can't just ride on your family name. You got to

695
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: show your worth and make something out of yourself. And

696
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: we just always had that in mind. I mean I

697
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: got my first job at fourteen. Where'd you work? I

698
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: worked at a magazine and I would sort of do

699
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: everything from taking the trash out, taking lunch orders, shipping

700
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: out the magazines to advertisers, just like all the brutal jobs.

701
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: You said it in the documentary your sister Nikki, you

702
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: said you never takes a vacation. You can't turn down

703
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: a paycheck. I mean, where do you think that that

704
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: stems from. I think from just the way I was

705
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: brought up to what I went through. I just always

706
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: knew that I didn't never want to depend on a man.

707
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be in control and be the

708
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: boss and not ever have to ask for anything. So

709
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: I think just being raised in a way like that

710
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: and just wanting I don't know, I've always wanted to

711
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: be an independent woman and just never have to ever

712
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: be one of those girls. I feel like in LA

713
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: a lot of girls are trained to be almost like

714
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: these gold diggers, who they have no aspirations in life.

715
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: All they look for is a rich husband, and that's

716
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: not the way we are raised. I always just wanted

717
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: me to be I guess the one. Do you think

718
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: after doing this documentary and going through this Catharsis of

719
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: sorts that you are now able to sort of be

720
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: loved and love much more and deeper and be more

721
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: vulnerable when it comes to relationships. Definitely. This is the

722
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: first time in my life where I've been with my

723
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: boyfriend now for over a year, and this is the

724
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: first time I've opened up my heart because I never

725
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: did before. I never really loved anyone before because I

726
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: didn't even know who I was and I was just

727
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: so had this huge wall around my heart. And now

728
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: like the wall is down and I'm just I feel

729
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: like the happiest person in What does that feel like?

730
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: I know it's sort of a bigger question esoteric, but like,

731
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: what is it to open up your heart? I mean,

732
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: what does that? How does it translate? Meaning? Are you

733
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: able to receive love better more. Yeah, this is just

734
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: the first time where I can really just be myself

735
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: and I feel safe and I feel at home and

736
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: just like floating on air, because in other relationships, I've

737
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: always just been so scared and always thought that they

738
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: were cheating on me or just not trusting and not

739
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: opening my heart, where I almost like hated them all

740
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: the time because I just thought bad things were happening

741
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: or they were. And in this relationship has just been

742
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: like perfect since our first day, and I don't know,

743
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: I feel like it was just meant to be good

744
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, Nikki, let's talk about your marriage and

745
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: children you met, how you guys have been together a

746
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: second now, haven't you. It's been almost ten years. Well,

747
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: what was it when you met your husband now husband?

748
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: What was like did you know right away that that

749
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: was You're like, oh, I'm going to marry this guy.

750
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it was definitely. I know it sounds cliche.

751
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: It was a love it first sight thing. Harris was

752
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 1: standing there right with me. You were nearly ten years

753
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: ago at a wedding in Rome, and it was after

754
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: the reception and Harris was talking with some guy who

755
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: James was friends with, and he came over and he

756
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: introduced himself, and I had just gone out of a

757
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: serious relationship. Paris did too, so we were like wanting

758
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: to see cute boys, and we didn't see many at

759
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: this wedding, but then he walked over and it's just

760
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: like whoa. But I was living in la at the time.

761
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: He was living in London, so it was very very

762
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: long distance and we would occasionally meet up in New

763
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: York halfway and we did that for like a year,

764
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: and then we both decided to move back to New

765
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: York together and then we had like a year engagement

766
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: and then yeah, we've been We just celebrated our fifth

767
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: wedding anniversary over the summer and Paris. Do you look

768
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: up to your sister when it comes to that, meaning

769
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: like you look at that as a as a successful

770
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: relationship and it's a beautiful one that you would want

771
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: to emulate. Definitely. I feel, you know, just looking at Nikki,

772
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: her family, her beautiful daughters. I love spending time with them,

773
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: and I'm always it makes me kind of sad, like

774
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: I wish that I had that, but now I know

775
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: that I will have it, so we having children, Yes, definitely,

776
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: I want to, like next year, ew mine. It's fun.

777
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot, but it's the best. Do you think

778
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: that after this documentary that you guys, like, did you

779
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: feel a difference in your relationship and closeness Like we've

780
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: always been just always we're like one. I don't know,

781
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: like we've always been so close, but I think, you know,

782
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: just talking about certain things, like Nikki had no idea

783
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: of what I went through as well, So I think

784
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: that made us feel closer in a way because she

785
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: understood me more and what I've been through. But we've

786
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: always been so close. I don't even know how we

787
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: could even get any closer. I don't, like we literally

788
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: speak ten times a day. Have you noticed a different

789
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: reaction from the public, meaning just more of an understanding

790
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: for sure? Before it was about to come out, I

791
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like, how are people going

792
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: to react? That people are to think I'm insane? And

793
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: just when it came out, like the amount of like

794
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: love and support and just people writing any letters and

795
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: people I see on the street just so many calls

796
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: and people just really just being so kind to me

797
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: and understanding me, and I just felt so happy to

798
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: just finally, I don't know, have people understand me and

799
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: just really get why I'm the way I am. But

800
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: are you still going after the billion or is that?

801
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: Are you done with that? I think that was just

802
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: such like a drive for me because I wasn't focused

803
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: on my personal life. I only cared about that just

804
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: to like hide from my personal life. But now I'm

805
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: just so happy where I am that it's not the

806
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: focus anymore. Like I care more about having babies than

807
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: I do about a billion. This is so great, a different,

808
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: be different, kind of be different. You should do a

809
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: book from Billions to Babies. From Billions to Babies. I

810
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 1: like that. That's so cute. Two hundred and fifty days

811
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: a year that you travel to lock down COVID. What

812
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: does it feel like to not have to go show

813
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: up to an event, to not have to Like I mean,

814
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: I was watching in the documentary and I can relate.

815
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: Where like you're taking pictures with people and they're holding you,

816
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: and they're touching you, and you're constantly being held and

817
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: you want to make people happy, right, It's like you

818
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: want to make them feel good. But then when you leave,

819
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: you kind of feel like like everybody's touching you. You

820
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: feel like a zoo animal almost yeah, zoo. I don't know.

821
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: How does it feel for you to not have to

822
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: do that any right now? I mean, does it change

823
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: the way you see the future? Definitely? Like, of course

824
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: I love my fans, like they're very sweet, but then

825
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: there are those weirdos that like it's kind of just

826
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: like draining because you feel like there's like these energy

827
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: vampires around some people, and it's it's a lot. So

828
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: the fact that I haven't had to do that in

829
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: a year has been just so refreshing. And you know,

830
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: the future, I really want to, you know, step back

831
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: from a lot of that and not travel anymore because

832
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't need to. Well, you know, as your as

833
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: your psychologist, I feel like I feel like, you know,

834
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: it's almost like you don't need you love your fans,

835
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: but you don't need their adoration as much as you

836
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: did because you found something else, you know, you found

837
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: something else within yourself and then your man, you know,

838
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: so it's you don't need them. You love them, but

839
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: you don't you don't need them anymore, you know. Yeah,

840
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: I also don't need to travel like that anymore. It's

841
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: just way too much. Oh, I had anxiety watching documentary

842
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: with zoom. You don't need to go right, Yeah amazing.

843
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: Oh even you dealing with your clothes like it gave

844
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: me anxiety. I was like, oh my god, I started

845
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: to feel like a little nauseous. I'm like, I don't know,

846
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: how do you even exist? There's clothes everywhere and what

847
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna wear, and like, oh my god, I need

848
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: sunglasses and purses. I'm like, holy fuck, I I had

849
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Speaker 1: almost near panic attack. You would have a panic attack

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Speaker 1: other day. This is also coming from someone who like

852
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Speaker 1: lives in a hoarding house. There's so much shit and

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Speaker 1: all house, Oliver, I'm not a hoarder at all, Allie,

854
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Speaker 1: not if you okay. So we went traveling together one time.

855
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Speaker 1: I've been trying to get them to Europe, Oliver, like

856
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857
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860
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861
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Speaker 1: My wife is prepared for anything and everything. If the

862
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Speaker 1: plane goes down, Yeah, she's prepared. If the plane goes

863
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Speaker 1: down over the ocean, she has a life raft, she's

864
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: got parkas. She's got parkas in case we're over the

865
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 1: Andes or something. We could be in Hawaii and she's

866
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,120
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867
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Speaker 1: but I will say this, it does come in handy

868
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Speaker 1: if sometimes someone will say, hey, do you have like

869
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Speaker 1: a buttermilk biscuit for my kids? She goes, oh, yeah,

870
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: I've got one right here, pulls one out of her purse. Yeah,

871
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: it's literally you mean, she's got everything. It's so true,

872
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: it's so true. But yeah, no, I actually see as

873
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: a as a as a girl. I got excited about

874
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875
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Speaker 1: her leaving and the thing and the people running around,

876
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Speaker 1: and it's like eight thousand outfits. And I've never worn

877
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Speaker 1: the same thing twice, well, never wearing the same thing twice.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that's so hard, Nikki? Can you

879
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Speaker 1: can you use that for yourself? Have you ever worn

880
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: the same thing to Yes? I wear the same thing

881
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Speaker 1: you guys were let's say, early twenties, was there a goal?

912
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Speaker 1: Like what was it? Like? I guess separately, you know, Nikki,

913
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: did you have a goal in mind of Like this

914
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Speaker 1: is what I want to do, this is what my

915
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Speaker 1: future I want my future to look like. I always

916
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Speaker 1: I mean, my parents have such an amazing template of marriage.

917
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Speaker 1: It's almost too good. It's like crazy. They've been married

918
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Speaker 1: over forty years. So I always knew I wanted to

919
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Speaker 1: be married and have children, and I've always loved working

920
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Speaker 1: in design, so the goal was to always be doing

921
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: something in that space, and I happened. I'm sixteen years

922
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: old and it's something that I really enjoy and have

923
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: fun doing. Do you ever like to do design for interiors?

924
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at your house, I can see behind

925
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: you that it looks nice. That's my husband's forte. He

926
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: has such a brilliant eye and he loves interior design.

927
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: What is that? But is that like what is it called?

928
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: Like roll a rabbit? Roberta roller rabbit? Yeah? That looks

929
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: like the shade behind there. Oh over, okay, see I

930
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: know a few things. Okay, Ollie, are you going to

931
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: be strict with your with your girls? Do you think

932
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: like your like your parents were. I'm quite strict, but

933
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: not like Psycho. I let my kids watch TV. I

934
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: let them have sweet I mean not all the time.

935
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: I think everything in moderation, right right, That is one

936
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: of my slogans of balance excessive. I mean I am

937
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: a Libra, and that is that's my son. Balance. Yeah,

938
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: everything a moderation. Everything, everything in moderation. Moderation is never

939
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: your word. What do you mean? I am so balanced?

940
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? I'm September now, I'm a Virgo. But

941
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: if I've done my chart, I've done my chart and

942
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: a million times, and everyone says you're way more libre

943
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: than your virgo. What are you, kid? That makes sense?

944
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm an Aris? What are you? Paris Aquarius? Oh? I

945
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: have a feeling that Paris will be a strict parent.

946
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: What do you think? I think so, I'm pretty I

947
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: don't know. Think about what happened when she was sort

948
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: of suppressed and not able to do anything. I think

949
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna be surprised. I think what happens is I

950
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: guess what Paris is here? She could probably answer, go ahead, pair.

951
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: I think about that a lot as well, because when

952
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: I was a teenager, I was like, one day, when

953
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: I have kids, I'm going to let them do what

954
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: I really want. But now that I know how it

955
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: is to be a teenager, and I know, you know,

956
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: especially now, how dangerous it is, it's really scary. Like

957
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: the things I'm seeing, I think I will be really strict,

958
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: but not so strict, and I will never send my

959
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: kids away. I think I just will talk to them

960
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: and try to work things out. But I don't know.

961
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: It's hard because I don't want to be super strict

962
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: but then again, I just know how bad a kid

963
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: can be, then I probably will be Paris. You didn't

964
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: answer that question when you were in your early twenties.

965
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: What was your vote like? Did you have a goal

966
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: in mind? I just like being an aquarius. I'm like

967
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: a naturally creative person, and I always have loved music

968
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: and art and fashion and beauty. So I just wanted

969
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: to be everything. I couldn't decide on one thing. I

970
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: wanted to be a model, I wanted to sing, I

971
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: wanted to dj. I wanted to be an artist. I

972
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: wanted to be a designer. I just wanted to do

973
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: it all. But when I was little, I wanted to

974
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: be a veterinarian. And then it all changed. My moved

975
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: to New York. Mm hmm, yeah, maybe this is the

976
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: late life gig. Maybe Paris Hilton gets married and says,

977
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: fuck everything, has a baby, has a baby Aryan, and

978
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: now she's like, you know what, I'm opening up, I'm

979
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: opening up. That's what is it called a veterinarian studio?

980
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: What do you call those things? A veterinarians? What do

981
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: you call them going to the vet? You do you

982
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: call a veteranate? Like, oh, you're going to the vestans. So,

983
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: but if you're going to open up one, what do

984
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: you call I'm opening up a an animal animal hospital

985
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: or an animal clinic or well, don't look at me

986
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: like I'm crazy. Finish the sentence, finished, Hold on, finish

987
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: the sentence. Oh my god, I'm going to open up

988
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: a animal hospital or a clinic animals. So you're not

989
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: opening up a vet Yeah, you're you are a You're

990
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: opening up a veterinarian facility. No one knows. I mean,

991
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: you know what I've gotten into doing is fostering Docsh's

992
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: so nice. Well, I mean I just think about this Paris,

993
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton veterinarian clinic. I think that's that could be amazing. Eh,

994
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: I'll think about it. Just think about it. Okay. So,

995
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: now that we are entering into the forty zone of

996
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: your life, we're coming into a new decade soon. What

997
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: is the goal? What are you looking forward to twenty

998
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: twenty one and beyond twenty twenty one. I'm excited. I

999
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: think you know, twenty twenty was canceled and twenty twenty

1000
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: one has already been really crazy and it's only been

1001
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: like the first week. So I don't ever want to expect,

1002
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: but I'm excited just for the next phase of my life,

1003
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: to start a family, and it's just a I don't

1004
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 1: have enjoy my life. Finally, so great, I'm excited. Even

1005
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: your hair is older, Oliver, it is it just looked. No,

1006
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: it's great. It's just say that's why I'm like, dressed up.

1007
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: I know. I'm like, Paris, what are you wearing? She's like,

1008
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: I was like, do you have hair and makeup? She's like, yes,

1009
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: that's like great, And I knew when I signed on

1010
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: she would have perfect lighting and perfect glam. I'm like,

1011
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: what about you, Nikki. For twenty twenty one, I'm excited

1012
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: to launch my new sustainable shoe collection with French Soul,

1013
01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: my baby collection with Dottie Dungarees, and just I'm it

1014
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: just excited for I'm excited for this year. I think

1015
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: this pandemic has completely obviously changed the world. It's changed

1016
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: the way we eat, we travel, we communicate everything, And

1017
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing the world through new set

1018
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: of eyes and just being grateful and excited for the

1019
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: future because it has to be better than last year.

1020
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: It's got to be right, Please God, all right, let's

1021
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: do our speed rounds. One word to describe the other.

1022
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: Paris is fun, Nikki is strict. You were going to

1023
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: say that it's like me and Allie. I'm fun. Yeah,

1024
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm fun too, though, Nikki, you're fun. You used to

1025
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: be more fun. I'm very fun, more fun. I've had

1026
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: no opportun tunities to be fun. Yeah, you just you're

1027
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: too strict. You gotta let it go a little bit,

1028
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: just in general. That's Danny. One word to describe the other.

1029
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: At thirteen, we're not cutting that. Paris is flirty. Nicky's

1030
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: his tattletale. Hey, by the way, did you ever get

1031
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: in trouble for tattle tailing? Meaning your parents would finally hey,

1032
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: oh stop telling? Oh god, oh we did it. We

1033
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: did okay. One word to describe your relationship unbreakable, close

1034
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: as fuck. Here's a good If your sister was an animal,

1035
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: what would she be? Unicorn? A kitten? Nicky's parents would

1036
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: be the unicorn, and then Nikki would be kitten a kitten.

1037
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: What was the weirdest pet you had as a kid.

1038
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: I had a pet goat and monkeys and a lot

1039
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: of crazy pets, right, I had rats, mice. How did

1040
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: you buy a monkey with your own money. I don't

1041
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: even know how does that happen? In Las Vegas, there's

1042
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: like this exotic pet store called pet King in two

1043
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: thousand and they sell like monkeys and tigers and vinature

1044
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: like kangaroos and ferrets. And I just was obsessed every

1045
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: time I went to Vegas with buying all these exotic pets.

1046
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: That's amazing. When we were little, our parents bought Jacqueline

1047
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: Smith's house and she had built this doll house for

1048
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: her daughter, beautiful, big dollhouse with electricity and running water,

1049
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: and it was super far away from the main house Paris,

1050
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: and I, unbeknownst to our parents, turned this doll house

1051
01:03:53,120 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: into like a pet store and there was chinchillas, ferrets, rats, mice,

1052
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: guinea pigs. We were like oddly obsessed with rodents. How

1053
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: do you get the animals past your parents? Buy them

1054
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Speaker 1: a tropical fish on Hollywood? Yeah, so crazy, and then

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Speaker 1: you just sneak him in. They wouldn't know. The backyard

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Speaker 1: was so big that they wouldn't go back there. It

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Speaker 1: was like this, it was so far away from the

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Speaker 1: house they never went. Now, I built a dollhouse, which

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Speaker 1: I have in my backyard for my dogs because I

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Speaker 1: always said, one day, I need to like have a

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Speaker 1: dollhouse for my kids. And since I don't have kids yet,

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Speaker 1: my dogs and my kids we called the doggy Mansion.

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Speaker 1: What was your first celebrity crush? Riders Strong from Boy

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Speaker 1: Mutes Harris and I were in love with him. We

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Speaker 1: would the back page of Tiger Beating all those magazines.

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Speaker 1: We would write him love letters like obsessed. I loved

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Speaker 1: Luke Perry, me too, I loved him so much. I

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Speaker 1: was remember Luke Luke Perry's voicemail on that and it

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Speaker 1: was it was you know the drill? Oh? Okay, who

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Speaker 1: is more of the brainiac Dicky? I know, we know,

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Speaker 1: we know who's most likely to be late? What sisters

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Speaker 1: more dramatic me? Maybe? Oh? I wouldn't have expected that.

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Speaker 1: Who's the wittiest me? Are you to say that about yourself? Yes?

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Speaker 1: If you're robbing a bank, who's robbing it? And who's

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Speaker 1: driving the getaway car? I'm driving the getaway car. Paris

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Speaker 1: is robbing. I feel like that could end. That could

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Speaker 1: be parents would like get sidetracked, like go to coffe

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01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: she'd like talk to people are texting. Yeah, she'd forget

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Speaker 1: what she's doing. Yeah, what am I trying to do?

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Speaker 1: You'd be like honking the horn. Yeah, okay, pet peeve

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Speaker 1: about each other. Yeah. When she does not respond to

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Speaker 1: my text or emails, I want to punch her in

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Speaker 1: the face, especially when they're work related. Will they will

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Speaker 1: you go like an actual day, a full day without anything? No, no,

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Speaker 1: because then I'll just start harassing her. That's what I

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01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: do to Oliver. I'm just like pick up. I'm like

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Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, I'm like, She's like answer, I'm like,

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to cook. See. That's the great thing about siblings.

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Speaker 1: There's no pride, like you don't care about being embarrassed

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Speaker 1: in front of them. There's no judgment like zero EPs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah what about you, Paris? When she does like what

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01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: you did to your brother like things as well, I

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01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: don't like that as a p for me, that's so funny.

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: Your favorite look of your sisters that your sister's done

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01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: and vice versa. I mean like fashion, Yeah, like the

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Speaker 1: like one of your favorite Like I loved that, oh

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01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: my god, Valentino gown for her wedding. I would I

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: would say yes to that. I loved all the photos

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: you did when you hosted es to Now when you

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01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: were like Audrey Hepburn for one look and you were

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Speaker 1: it was. There were such beautiful portraits. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you remember those I did, Ollie, what was your

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Speaker 1: favorite look? I'd say Mom's dress from Cactus Flower. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's the only one I know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of like that was. I was like twelve,

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Speaker 1: you'll know what I know. I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't. The other night, The First Wives Club so good,

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Speaker 1: the best great, Yes, the best soundtrack too. Yeah. I

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: like when she's like fill them up, Morty love it? Okay.

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Speaker 1: Who's more competitive? We don't have a competitive sister nature.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying that. We really don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, like in games like you're playing Monopoly

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Speaker 1: or Harris doesn't care. So I guess me, who's the

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Speaker 1: better cook? Me? Who makes a better cocktail? Me? What

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Speaker 1: do we like to drink? What are our drinks of choice? Here?

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Speaker 1: In the past few years, I've become more of a

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Speaker 1: tequila girl. I never used to like tequila, but it's

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01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: a little harsh the taste, so I always have it

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 1: with something sweet like pineapple juice. Gives me a hangover,

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Speaker 1: but it's I like fruity sweet gurly drinks. I love,

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Speaker 1: I love, I love, Okay, I like all of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no marijuana in your life, anyone, anyone into weeds. No,

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Speaker 1: we should go, we should end this one time. You've

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Speaker 1: been the most intimidated, not intimidated. But Paris and I

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Speaker 1: were talking the other day about like one of the

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Speaker 1: craziest things that we've ever done, and it was when

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Speaker 1: we were cast in Sex and the City. We were

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Speaker 1: going to be Samantha Jones's new neighbors in the meatpacking district,

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Speaker 1: her loud, rowdy neighbors, and Paris and I were in

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Speaker 1: La and and you didn't get on the flight to

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Speaker 1: shoot Sex in the City, which is to this day

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Speaker 1: one of my biggest regrets. Not only by the way,

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Speaker 1: did we not show up. We were so scared that

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Speaker 1: we didn't even call. We just like, we didn't show up,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't. This is crazy. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest regrets ever because I was so obsessed with the show.

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Speaker 1: But it's just shows. It just scared the shit out

1138
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Speaker 1: of you. But how crazy to not even call and

1139
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: say we're not going. It's nuts. They were like Harris's

1140
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Speaker 1: agent calling. This was like before texting and everything, being like,

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Speaker 1: are you guys alive? Where are you them? Okay? Poster

1142
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: growing up on the wall, New Kids on the block,

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01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: the whole to an oldcast. If you could cast your

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01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: sister from another celebrity, who would that celebrity be like

1145
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: to play you? To play you like in real life

1146
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: or in a movie about us, in a movie about you, guys,

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01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: who would you cast him? Bass singer like Catwoman days Paris?

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Speaker 1: They look to like I was like parents, you were

1149
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: so obsessed with her. Zoe Deschanel. She has like those

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01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: like bright blue eyes and she reminds me when you

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01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: had you had your hair dark. So she's really pretty

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Speaker 1: and she's sweet. I love her. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: I like that, okay. And if there was a song

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Speaker 1: to sum up your sister, what the song would that be?

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:42,799
Speaker 1: Wild and Free? Isn't that a song? I'm sure right, Nikki,

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Speaker 1: it would be. I've never even asked this question before.

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Speaker 1: I like your questions are good, Uptown Girl, Yes, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I love that song. Okay. So this is our last question.

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Speaker 1: It's a two parts. One is if there's something you

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Speaker 1: could alleviate from your sister something that would you think

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01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: would make her life feel better or make it more optical.

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Speaker 1: And then the second part of the question is what

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Speaker 1: a characteristic of your sister that you wish you had

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Speaker 1: more of in you? This is NICKI speaking. I would

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Speaker 1: take away some of Paris's PTSD and pain and nightmares

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Speaker 1: that she suffers from. And what was the second part?

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Speaker 1: What of your sister do you as you had more

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01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: of in you? I just I love how unconventional Paris

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Speaker 1: is in every sense of the word. She doesn't follow rules,

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Speaker 1: she doesn't follow trends, she sets them. She sort of

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: marches to the beat of her own drums. She's an original,

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Speaker 1: She's unique. There's no one like her. Thank you and

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: for me, I would take away or alleviate you just

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like you're kind of

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: like sometimes uptight and you don't let go and be

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01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: free and like, I don't know, like that part of

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01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: you where you could just be like unresponsible and just

1178
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: like rage rage, okay, And the thing I would like

1179
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: the characters that I would like you is just to

1180
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: be like more responsible sometimes and be on time. All right, guys, listen,

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Speaker 1: thank you for doing this. I love you. Both thank

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01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: you guys so much I appreciate alright, bye guys. Sibling

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Speaker 1: Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: Producer is Alison Presnik, editor is Josh Wendish. Music by

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Speaker 1: Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.