WEBVTT - How Food Cravings Work 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.880 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:07.480 It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should Know 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:16.319 from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.240 the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always as 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:23.279 Charles W. Bryant. It sounded like the nursery rhyme? Did 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.720 it was? It's a new one. How's it going, Chuck? Oh, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.120 you know, dude, it's Friday. We're all ready to uh 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.320 trip the light fantastic this weekend? Do you know that 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.560 means dance? Right? Uh? Yeah, I don't dance. I don't 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.200 need the town brown dread while I'm a Weeen fan, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.360 so you paint the town brown. What is the name 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:45.640 of the god that Weeen worship that tells him to 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:49.040 get wasted? The book nish? Is that what it is? Well, 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.559 that's their little symbol, the little guy with a spiky hair. Right, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.040 But there's like a god that they listened to that 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:58.360 commands them to just get wasted that Yeah, how about 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.680 this listeners? What is the name of the god that 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.679 ween answer to? Yeah? Godwin Satan was the name of 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:11.640 their first album. Yeah, so so, Chuck, Yes, I could 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:16.440 go for a sloppy Joe right now, man, I haven't 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.759 had a sloppy Joe since I was a kid. You haven't, 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.920 you poor bastard, like the manwich kind any kind of school. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.760 It's sloppy Joe. It's like barbecue sauce and catch up 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.160 with some ground beef on a bun and get better 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.360 than that. Not since my mom was like cooking for 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:31.840 me as a kid, have I had a sloppy Joe? 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.360 I've never made one myself. Let me give you a 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:39.000 little little secret here, sloppy Joe, fish taco, sloppy Josh. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.200 Is it not yet? We're not out of work yet? Um, 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.160 insert fish taco into sloppy Joe and thank me in 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.480 the morning. Wait, put a fish taco in the sandwich 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:56.360 itself with the beef and everything. That's the weirdest thing 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.080 I've ever heard of. Just try and let me know 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.160 what you think. Grant key that after you have a 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.960 fish taco sloppy Joe, you will end up with the 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.560 food craving for it at some point in Yeah, that's 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.920 a great set up, thanks buddy. Food cravings. Food cravings, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.320 that's what we're talking about, right. Do you think that's 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.640 what I prepared for Yeah, same here. So chuck, Um, 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.400 you've had a food craving, right, If so, you're part 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.960 of the seventy percent of males in North America who 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.280 have had one in the last year. I found that 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.280 to be staggering. I thought everyone has had a food 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:32.120 craving like once a week. Yeah. The stet on women 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:36.359 was much more. Um, I guess in in my wheelhouse, right, yea, 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.400 but what thirty percent of men don't have a craving 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.840 in a years? Who are like, I'm not answering that question. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.079 I'm going ercent. You and I both know that everybody 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.440 knows that everybody's had a food craving in the last year. Well, 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.359 that's what I couldn't determine if it was an actual 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.560 classifiable food craving or just like, oh, I'm hungry for 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.760 a burger. Or maybe they thought that slim gims don't count. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.720 That's that accounts for slim gyms aren't food, they're slim jims. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.280 That's a good one. Uh yeah, Josh se say yes, 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.560 and women all say yes. And women in North America 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.320 and Europe particularly like the sweet stuff. Yeah, I think 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:22.040 chocolate is the most highly reported UM food craving women 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.239 in North America. We need to specify because it appears 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.880 that um food cravings are also culturally specific. Yeah, so 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.360 women in North America like the chocolate, but say women 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:38.080 in Egypt like, let's say, a meat stuffed eggplant. That's 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.320 pretty specifically. Christen Conger wrote this and it's a great article. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.720 But I love that she actually said that they will 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.480 crave a meat stuffed eggplant, which actually sounds kind of good. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.360 And I'm not even hip on eggplant, but I would 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:54.600 eat that stuff exactly, wrapping and bacon, stuffing with meat um, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.680 or put a fish taco on it, I'll leave it. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.480 Even a milk steak, although I've just recently found out 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.640 what that is. Was that right, I believe? So yeah, 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:09.440 we haven't gotten any corrections because one from the nineteenth 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:15.080 century is still around, they can correct us. So chuck um. Actually, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.080 food cravings we talked about how they're different in North 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.880 America and in Egypt for example. There there they appear 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.120 to be universal. However, while the food craving may differ, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.320 or the food that has crave may differ, the food 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.000 craving is is pretty much a universal human trait because 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.159 we all have a brain. Uh, well, let's talk about 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:38.840 there's two different kinds. There's a stomach craving, which accounts 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.760 for hunger, and then there's a food craving, which we'll 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.600 get to in a minute. It's like all mental, right, 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.479 you have to have a brain. Yes, actually you have 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.279 to have a brain for both. But let's talk about 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.360 like regular old hunger. Like, what is that, dude, That 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.120 is the stomach telling the brain by way of the 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:01.039 vegas or veggics I think vegas vegas nerve basically saying 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:05.520 I'm hungry, I need food to live, Sophie. Right, it's 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.680 pretty much as simple as that. It is. Uh. And 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:12.000 this hormone grilling, which has made an appearance uh incorrectly 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:16.960 in a previous podcast. I said grilling um tells your 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.599 stomach or tells your brain that you're not hungry any longer, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.159 actually does the opposite. Yeah, I know, I'm an idiot. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.120 It's a it's a hormone that is actually um emitted 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:30.040 by fat tissue, right, and it travels up the vagus 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.240 nerve to the hypothalamus and says, dude, I'm I'm hungry, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.520 and it triggered. It's triggered when your blood sugar and 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.320 insulin levels start to decline, which is just awesome. I 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.480 love the human body. I think it's like about as 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.600 fascinating as it gets. Yeah, I like the brain in particular, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.600 and I think articles like this everyone knows how much 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.560 we love the brain and studying the brain. But yeah, 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.479 look for a an audiobook on the brain from Chuck 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:58.400 and I little spoiler teaser, But it always amazes me 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.320 that the brain is so complex and then the rest 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.880 of the body is almost like just a big dumb, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.680 functioning group of organs compared to the brain compared to 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.160 the well, yeah, but I mean that's like comparing like 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.880 it together eight Dodge Colt to like, you know, um, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.240 a Bugatti, A Bugatti, Thank you. I don't know where 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.919 that came from. So okay, So the grilling travels up 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.720 the vagus nerve hits the hypothalamus, which the hypothalamus also 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:33.400 provides some other um function management like sex, drive, thirst, sleep, sleep, yeah, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.840 things like pretty smart, Yeah exactly. It's like it's the 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:41.120 party part of the brain, right. Um. So the hypothalamus says, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.560 all right, we're hungry, and uh, we're going to release 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:49.240 neuropeptide y and this is just all right. It stimulates 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.920 our appetites, right, um, So what have we eat? Yes, 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.000 we're eating the sloppy joe fish taco combo. And as 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.920 we eat, something else starts to happen because it just 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.600 can't keep on like this, or you would just keep 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.960 eating and eating and eating. So your body has to 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.039 do the reverse almost and say you can stop eating now. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.200 And it does this by um, in a couple of ways. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.640 The first things that happens is, uh, fat tissues expel leptin, 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.240 and son of a gun, I am never going to 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.960 get growling. Growling is released from in the stomach. Leptin 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.360 is released in the fat tissues. How did you say? 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.720 I did? I did? I'm just a big dumb animal. Well, 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.840 so hold your emails, folks. We will get this all 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.920 right by the end of this thing. Maybe Okay, hate growing. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.880 So Lepton gets going and tells our brain basically that hey, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:42.040 you're satisfied. You're you're not hungry anymore, you're satiated. You 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.880 do not need to keep eating. Right, But this doesn't 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.640 take place like immediately. No um. And actually, my half 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.680 oconow and girlfriend taught me that the Japanese have a 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:54.960 little rule of thumb called hara hatchi bo nice funny 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.200 that mean. It means basically, um stop when you feel 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.680 about full, and it works like a charm. Actually, well, 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.360 you don't see a lot of obese Asian people too, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.120 and they live forever to Yeah, we should follow that 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.080 that model. So u Lepton actually does this by turning 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.320 down the production of the narrow peptide y and cranking 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:18.760 up the production of pro opio melanocortin. I was hoping 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.520 you take that one. That was an excellent pronunciation, buddy. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.680 I had to literally sound it out and spell it 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.560 out very yeah, but it worked. And that is an 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.160 apptite suppressant in the bloodstream. So that basically says, uh mind, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.679 the hypothalamus monitors the insulin blood sugar, and then everyone's happy, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.720 we're eating, we're satisfied, we're full. Right, So there there 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.000 you go, we're alive. Right. Yes, So that accounts for 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.640 normal hunger, right, that actually does begin in the stomach. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.920 Crazy enough, right, that's how you have hunger, and that's 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.040 how your brain tells you that you're not hungry. But 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.199 that doesn't account for food cravings. Food cravings are pretty 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.360 much all mental or at the very least. They're all 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.640 brain centric, right, Yeah, And it's not hey, I need 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.199 to eat and stay alive, it's hey, I really really 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.760 want that sloppy Joe with the fish taco. Well, I 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.120 don't know about that, but that's mine hunger that you're 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.800 talking about, which accounts for the craving, right. And one 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.800 of the reasons, um that it's it's I guess worth 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.560 writing an article about researching and podcasting is that it's 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.520 kind of curious. It's a little bit of a mystery 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:24.520 because they're not really essential for survival. Uh, there was there. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.720 I actually thought this for a very long time and 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.880 probably will continue to do so because I don't give 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:34.200 up my views very easily. Um, but I tended to 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:38.160 think that food cravings where the body's way of saying, um, 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.720 you need more iron, so you really really want to 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:45.080 steak right now? Debunked whatever, debonk care. It's a good 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:46.920 way to live life, and I'm going to live it 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.400 like that. Yeah, But scientists have largely debunked that, basically 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.760 saying it's really not you're it's not you saying that, oh, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.720 I need a particular nutrient to keep me healthy. And 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.000 one of the reasons why it was debunked was because 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:03.280 most food crave things are for really rich fatty foods 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.560 trying calories. And do you know why we crave those, Josh, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:11.760 Why because they are loaded with chemicals called opioids. That 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.240 is true. And this is a this is a depressing 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:15.960 moment for me, by the way, Like I've lived like 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.000 this for years. Uh. Opioids what they do? They bind 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.280 to your receptors in the brain and they bring you 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.720 the like feel good feelings. They do actually, um, the 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:30.840 the the same processes followed for um, drugs do drugs? 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.800 It actually follows the same um, I guess mental process 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:39.320 or brain pathway. Excellent, Chuck, thank you. I was flailing there, 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.800 um that that drugs do. Right, Yeah, I thought that 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.240 was interesting. So you've got you've got let's let's just 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.040 use chocolate. It's just so easy. It's a good go to. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.280 So you you you eat a little chocolate. Let's say 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:56.280 it's the first time, and uh, the opioids that are released, um, 0:10:56.400 --> 0:11:00.320 actually form part of your memory of eating chocolate. You 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.880 have a sensory memory that is very very pleasant associated 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.959 with eating chocolate. It gets filed away by what part chuck? Uh, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.480 is that the hippocampus. Yes, it is. Uh, it's a 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.520 short sensory data and puts it into long term more 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:21.040 short term memory. UM. And when we see chocolate again, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:27.200 we say, oh, yeah, chocolate, that makes me feel pretty good. Yes. Right, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.720 So there's there's one aspect of the craving. It's psychological 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:36.120 based on long term memory. And it also stimulates the 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:41.600 caught eight nucleus and UM. Basically that helps control the 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.280 dopamine reward system and dopa. Bean is another feel good 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.920 chemical in your body. Right, what's your favorite, like drop 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:54.120 dead favorite? What would be your last meal you're on 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.719 death row? Let's say not a stretch would be if 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:03.600 you're really thinking about this all that I really like? Um, 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:09.400 the Porterhouse steak at Kevin Rathbun's, Oh very specific. Have 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:14.160 you had it? Dude? Awesome? Yeah? Or um there is Uh, 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.920 there's this fried chicken at Watershed. Have you had that? 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.760 I've never had their famous fried chicken. You should go 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.360 Tuesday nights. Tuesday nights and after six if you make reservations. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.640 They can't guarantee the chicken. I know I've been. They 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.040 can't guarantee it's good. Or no, they can't guarantee it'll 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:29.199 be there. We can give each some chicken, but it 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.920 might be gonna be pretty crappy. Yeah, I've heard about 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.640 that for years. It's definitely worth it. One of those 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.640 two probably would be my last meal, I think my 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.840 I don't I can't get super specific, but I think 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:43.160 my favorite last meal would be like a big fried 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:48.000 seafood platter. Oh yeah, with like fried shrimp, fish and 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.120 clams and scallops and hush puppies and French fries and 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:57.440 cole saw. Oh man, we should go to Long John 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.040 Silver's after this, Long John Silver's, where the fish and 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.920 the chicken are equally good and tastes much the same. Yeah, 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.400 so do I so chuck um. We've talked about the 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.640 reward system, right, And actually there's a study in two 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.320 thousand and four where people were jammed into the Wonder 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.240 machine and as to think about food. It's actually the 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.720 F m R I, which is the wonder Wonder Machine. No, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.079 that's the Wonder machine mr an m r I. It's 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.560 it's worthless unless it's got that little F attached to it. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.400 So they jammed some people in the Wonder machine and 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.600 say think about food, and then the people started thinking 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.839 about food, and like you said, the caught a nucleus, 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.360 the insula, and the hippocampus all. So, but it's very 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.440 clear that like our reward system is triggered when we 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:44.000 think about food. So that's that explains part of food cravings. Uh. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.400 And we also said that it's linked to the same 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.680 neural pathways as drugs and drug addiction, which also accounts 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.520 for food addiction. Yeah, it's just a milder version. We 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.600 also said that um memories like the sense memory. Remember 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.760 the chocolate chocolate makes me when I eat it, so 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.079 I want to chocolate, right, Yeah, reinforces all that. That's 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.160 part of it too. But um or where did the 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.319 food cravings come from? I guess is my point? Why 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.600 if I am to make one? Josh, you know what? 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.840 You know where the starts? Dude, I know you do. 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:21.760 It starts in the womb. You pronounced the bee. No, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.400 I just did that as a joke. It actually does 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.600 happen in the womb. And they found in studies in 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:31.480 studies that in utero a fetus can distinguish between different 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.840 flavors that are passed to them through the amtiotic fluid 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.160 um and that remarkable. It is remarkable, chuck um. And 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.880 although I'm not entirely certain how they figured that out. UM, 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:47.520 there have been studies on um post birth children UH 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.640 and their tastes for food, and a lot of it. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.120 Apparently it comes from uh their time in the womb 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:57.600 and whatever their mothers eating while they're nursing. Right. Yea. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.160 They found that UM mothers who eight lots of garlic, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.520 or who ate a steady diet of garlic, their babies 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.120 nursed longer. I know that crazy um possibly to try 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.640 to figure out what the heck this taste is. Yeah, 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.160 I love that because garlic is tough to miss. It 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.560 comes out everywhere, and I imagine garlicy breast milk would 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.280 throw the baby for a loop to the point where 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:18.960 they're like, what is this? Oh? I can tell you 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.800 it throws you for a loop? Yea. Uh, God, garlic 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.560 is just the best in anything though, it is and 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.480 really good for you too. Have you ever had a 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.280 whole roasted garlic roasted just squeezed out onto like a 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.120 piece of bread, the whole thing, like the whole bulb. Yeah, dude, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:34.800 what you I do it all the time. I cut 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.200 off like half of it and drizzle it with some 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.280 olive oil and take it in some foil. Uh. No, 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.840 I just throw it, throw it on like a oven. Uh, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.120 like a cookie sheet, wrap it and foil and twist 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.440 the top and just you don't even need the cookie sheet. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.200 You just throw it in there on the rack and 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.080 it just it goes. It's awesome and great for it. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.840 Have you ever taken garlic pills? I don't like them. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.200 I'd rather eat like the garlic bulb. Well I would too, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.000 but garlic pills are weird because you'll take like a 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:00.880 garlic pill in the morning because it's good for you, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.920 and like in the morning, you you feel like you're 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.120 burping up like Italian food and by afternoon's coming out 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:11.400 of your breasts if you're nursing, yeah, or your skin purse. Yes. Sweat, Yeah, 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.400 I'm you know, I mean with my sweat. You don't 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:15.800 want to be around me on a hot day after 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.560 I've had some Lasagnia Brothers. Not good. Oh, I know 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.600 it's not. I was getting hungry and now I'm revolted 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.160 all of a sudden. Yeah, this just took a real 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.960 nose diet, didn't Yeah. Um, so chuck, you're saying we're 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.240 first exposed to taste in the womb. Um. And also 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:35.800 apparently we carry these on right, those memories stick around, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.760 those sensory memories, and that's the beginnings of establishing our 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.720 food relationship basically, and it can also be established by 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.320 the mother. Apparently, studies have shown that, um, I should say. Hey. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.840 At least one study has shown that women who have 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:55.640 um more adventurous diets have children who have more adventurous diets. Um. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.720 I think you could say, well, maybe that has to 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.840 do with the way they're raised, probably, but it it 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.080 could go either way. Yeah. You know another thing I 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:04.720 thought was cool how you said it was kind of 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.160 like the same thing as a drug addict seeking drugs, 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.879 Just like that you need more and more to satisfy you. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.160 Like so, just like a crackhead might need more crack 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.240 to get high as they progress in their drug career 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.320 or hobby. If you eat chocolate, just that little bit 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.240 of chocolate isn't gonna do it. If you keep eating, 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.040 You're gonna need it more and more to satisfy you. Yeah, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.640 pretty cool, it is unless you have a chocolate addiction. Yeah, 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.159 that's true, or a crack addiction. Um so, chuck, what 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.240 do you do when you do have a chocolate addiction, 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:41.440 you eat chocolate, you do um personally No, No, okay, 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.040 I thought you meant me. You know what I'm saying. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.160 You know you like anybody? Sure, you're not a chocolate addict. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.280 I know you're hard on yourself, but you're not. No. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.400 I like chocolate, but it gives me the heartburn too, 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.600 So it's kind of a fine line I have to walk. Um. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.840 Jerry thought that was funny. Laugh. Uh. So they they've 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.920 they've this is something that people have been paying attention to, luckily, 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.480 although they still haven't quite cracked the code. It turns 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.840 out the body is a little wonky when it comes 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:12.439 to food cravings. Um, when you have a lot of 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.119 fat tissue, this is weird to me. You emit a 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.560 lot of leptin, which is the thing that lowers appetite, right, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.159 suppresses appetite, But it's in fatty tissue. So the more 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:22.679 fat you have, the more left in you have. So 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:27.040 that's that should mean strangely, Uh that the fatter you are, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.480 the less you should eat. Not true, No, it's the opposite. Yeah. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.000 The for some reason, as the body mass index increases, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.840 meaning you get heavier and more fat on you. Um, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:44.840 you actually eat more, which doesn't seem odd really if 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.320 you think about that, but what you know, you're putting 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:52.160 out more leptin. Yeah, and it nothing we found, like said, 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.000 why this happens. It's just is it just one of 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:55.959 those things in the human body that we can't account for. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.360 Do you know another cool thing, Josh? What that if 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.480 you try to diet or quit eating a certain thing, 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.320 like let's say you're a lady and you have like 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.800 a big chocolate thing. The more you if you say 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.880 I want to cut down on eating chocolate, you're gonna 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.000 crave it more. They did a study in two thousand seven. 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.800 If you're trying not to, you're gonna crave it more. Right. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.080 It's the imp of the perverse. Remember we've talked about 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.080 that the more you try to push a thought from 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:24.640 your head, the more you're gonna think about it, because 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.960 not only are you thinking about keeping it out of 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.880 your head, it inevitably floods in and you push it out. 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.960 So really, what you're doing is engaging on the cycle 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.439 of um, constantly obsessing about this one thing. Let me 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.520 let me try something here, Josh. Whatever you do for 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.040 the next ten seconds do not think about a sloppy 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.360 joe with a fish taco on it? All Right, what's 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.159 the first thing that just popped into your head? You wanna? No? No, 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:56.600 what is it? Donald Duck? Really? Is that your go to? No? 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.440 That's an odd go to. No, it's not my go to. 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.280 I read an article on it and somebody said, whatever 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.359 you do. Um, you know, for the next sentence, don't 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.720 think about Donald Duck. That was kind of my introduction 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.359 to the imp of the perverse. So that's why I 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.080 thought of Donald Duck. I'll tell you what I didn't 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.280 think of, and I think ten seconds is past. I 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.440 didn't think of a sloppy joe with the fish taco. No, 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.399 I don't believe you. I think you thought of Donald 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.840 Duck eating a sloppy joe without a pint, right, Like 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.040 I never wears pants. Yeah, it didn't even wear a 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.080 diaper or something or was that? Did you know? And no, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.120 he just that was just his duck bottom. Um he 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.160 who was banned in Finland. I think because they didn't 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.119 wear pants or they had to put pants on the 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.880 one they two. That's good stuff, Josh. I think people 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:44.879 are learning a lot here. I think we have gotten 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.520 really far off topic, I think, so, so should we 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:51.879 reel it in here? Yeah? Um, if you have a 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:56.280 food addiction and you have food cravings, people who didn't 0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:01.520 deny themselves every food craving managed to lose the most weights. Yeah, 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:03.920 they said. The trick is to get into it occasionally 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.199 to reward yourself, but to just keep that all in check, right, 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.400 and how it works. And you're big on the calorie restriction, 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.280 So what do you think about that? Um? I've found 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.800 that just not eating I don't eat breakfast or lunch, 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.399 to just eat dinner. Um. And I found that after 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.440 probably a week or two of really just doing it hardcore, 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.520 you just don't even think about it any longer if 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.280 I stop and think about it, Like right now, I'm 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.199 hungry because I stopped and thought about it, but I 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.320 don't think about it. I think you know what I'm 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:39.600 hungry for, chucky sloppy chat with a fish taco. That's right. Uh? 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.840 Should we talk about weird food cravings? Yeah, like ladies 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.840 when they're pregnant. Yes, which I was interested to read 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.200 about this actually because I've always wondered, like, what gets 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:54.199 somebody who say never like cheese before to suddenly like 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:58.360 cheese once she becomes pregnant or something. Right. Um, well, 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.240 it has a lot to do with the hormone that 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:05.800 are going berzerko when you get pregnant, right, especially estrogen. Yeah, 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:07.840 and it also has to do with their sense of 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.879 taste and smell really become honed when they're pregnant, So 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.840 something like um, maybe really pungent like coffee and cigarettes 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.480 is even more of a turn off than usual, which 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.760 is probably a good thing if you're pregnant, right, don't 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:25.240