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Speaker 1: The Around the League podcast deserves its own of football life.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosnthal. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: you know what up boys? You know I changed it up? Listen,

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Speaker 1: let me I gotta say something. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: just want to say, you guys did a great job

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I listened to it immediately. I really thought

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Speaker 1: you did Greg, great job in the hosting chair. I

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Speaker 1: really thought that was good. I thought Michael Berger, a

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Speaker 1: t L producer, solid work. But it was something like

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Speaker 1: Greg said early on about what up Boys. I didn't

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Speaker 1: bring it up, by the way, I just didn't say it.

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Speaker 1: Crystal or someone else brought it up. Yeah, no, it

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Speaker 1: was It was fine that it came up because it

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Speaker 1: was Greg didn't say what up boys? And then that

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Speaker 1: came up. K Rich said it later, and then I

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Speaker 1: thought about it's like, why do I say what up boys?

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Speaker 1: And then I was talking to Greg about this downstairs yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The idea of let's say this show became a global phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it became what the Simpsons was in, which

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Speaker 1: obviously is a matter of time, and yeah, exact k

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Speaker 1: Rich will be in a Rolls Royce like encrusted in

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Speaker 1: diamonds as the producer. But let's imagine the best case

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Speaker 1: scenario happens. This show becomes huge and there are t

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Speaker 1: shirts with my stupid head and face and then above

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Speaker 1: it what up Boys? I would hate myself. Don't you

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Speaker 1: think you're being a little too self aware here, a

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Speaker 1: little super These are existential questions being a little more

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Speaker 1: worried about your bros. So now, good point. So now

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull it all the way back out of

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Speaker 1: that dream scenario. K Rich is now back in what

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Speaker 1: Honda according Chrysler convertible. Let's pull it all the way back,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna say, before that happens, removing what

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Speaker 1: up Boys? Because I got some Twitter feedback to the

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Speaker 1: people on Twitter. The people on Twitter, I think we're bros.

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Speaker 1: I think Dan had some doubts about what up boys

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Speaker 1: before this all happened. Is that not fair to say?

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Speaker 1: It kind of took off a little bit and and

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it became a monster. I couldn't control.

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Speaker 1: I can't I literally can't look myself in the mirror

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Speaker 1: if that becomes something that I'd get known for saying.

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Speaker 1: So I won't think you can't have the same as

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Speaker 1: spree to corp without what up boys? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: can we get in the right Actually it's a good point.

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Speaker 1: How will anyone know what up boys unless someone I'm

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Speaker 1: that's very set. You're a great woman. Um all right?

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Speaker 1: So anyway, so that was just something I came but

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Speaker 1: great show on Wednesday. Now it's Friday, and uh, the

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Speaker 1: biggest story to talk about. I thought it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be my hero pick on the Jaguars. Nothing better than

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Speaker 1: getting a hero pick on Thursday night football. But unfortunately

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Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak went and stole me, knocked me out of

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Speaker 1: the headline sack fired on Friday morning by the Texans

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Speaker 1: and owner Bob McNair. Uh, this was a move and

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Speaker 1: I'll throw to you guys that needed to be made

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Speaker 1: made right right. Yeah, I think it was just a

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Speaker 1: timing question. So they decided to do it during the

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Speaker 1: season instead of after this season. He was number one

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Speaker 1: on the list of guys we knew we're basically gonna

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Speaker 1: get fired. And now they can start the coaching process.

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Speaker 1: Apparently they want someone with NFL experience. Levey Smith was

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Speaker 1: mentioned by McNair, but I'm sure they're gonna ask a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. I'm wondering if the new coach could

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Speaker 1: possibly keep Wade Philips. Everyone thinks this is a great roster.

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Speaker 1: I'm not so convinced that they don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They don't really have an offensive line that's gonna make

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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a quick turnaround. They have a lot

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Speaker 1: who hasn't inflated salary. There are a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: probably isn't much worse shape than people would think. You know, Greg,

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Speaker 1: based team, especially on offense, that if you blow this

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Speaker 1: That changes what this team's identity has been for a

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Speaker 1: long time. On defense, I'd be really scared of another

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Speaker 1: There you go. I don't know why they would bring

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Speaker 1: acknowledged that he would be a potential candidate to talk to,

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Speaker 1: But there was no was Tenant six last year had

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Speaker 1: think he's he was. He was never inspiring, especially not

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Speaker 1: if you want to change that offense. Look at and

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Speaker 1: we all love case Keenum. You know they don't know

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Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback. They have a quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: as any team in the league. I liked that Kubiak

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Speaker 1: and Shop went out like butching Sun dance. Don't don't

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Speaker 1: of the any given Sunday where Kubiak announces that he's

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Speaker 1: that probably not happening, by the way. One quote from

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Speaker 1: a shot at Kubiak uh and and looking for the

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Speaker 1: next Coast coach. McNary said this, it's based more on

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Speaker 1: the individual. We're looking for a coach who's bright, ethical, innovative,

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Speaker 1: and is able to make adjustments. That last part, maybe

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Speaker 1: at the line. So there you go. All right, So

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Speaker 1: let's get to the week fourteen games. This week we

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Speaker 1: have this is has to be a record number of

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Speaker 1: defend your Hero picks right the seven on the schedule,

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. Um, so why don't we start with him

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Speaker 1: because it's also some of the big games of the week.

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Speaker 1: So there it is. Oh, just defend your hero and

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Speaker 1: as a special treat, we're gonna get Kevin Patrick, a

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Speaker 1: Chicago correspondent on the line. Usually a Sunday fixture, now

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Speaker 1: a Friday fixture. People are excited. Society has called for this,

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Speaker 1: and now it is happening. Kevin Patrick, how are you?

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Speaker 1: How's it going? By great? I'm doing awesome? Didn't we

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Speaker 1: didn't have? Wait? So you you are in Chicago right now?

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Speaker 1: we've got Patra and this is a big week for Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Patra is going to the Monday night football game Dallas

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Speaker 1: It's the month of Patra. Okay, so let's get right

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Speaker 1: into it. Since we have Kevin on the line, why

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Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions um facing off against the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: two teams playing very well right now. The Lions coming

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Speaker 1: Patra chose the Lions to knock off the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles Kevin Patra defend your hero. Well. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I had to go with the Homer pick number one,

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Speaker 1: fair enough, But I do think that this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a high score game, and I think at the

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Speaker 1: that simplifies a lot. I do you think the Eagles

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Speaker 1: was just a total coin flip game. I'm surprised Patrick

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Speaker 1: went with Philly because they're at home. Detroit hasn't really

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Speaker 1: put When was the last time Detroit put together a

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Speaker 1: couple of really impressive games back to back? Kevin never

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Speaker 1: You said? People don't believe it. And I saw gil

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Speaker 1: brand has him number two in the m v P race. Well,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put him there, but I think he's been

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Speaker 1: more impressed than he's been giving credit for. Huh to

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Speaker 1: in two quick things on the Eagles, and I know

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Speaker 1: we should move on. It's ridiculous to mention Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: as a potential m VP candidate. He missed. He missed

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Speaker 1: that that's like missing seventy games of the MLB season,

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Speaker 1: you would not give him. What's the biggest point, Peyton

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Speaker 1: Kelly has over delivered the fact that he's made Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles into supposedly an m v P candidate, the fact

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Speaker 1: he's getting any criticism. We all thought, oh, he's not

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Speaker 1: being his revolutionary He is better than we could have

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Speaker 1: him at all. All right, moving on the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 1: coming off another decisive victory over the Bucks. Uh, now

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Speaker 1: take on the New Orleans Saints, who obviously a difficult,

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Speaker 1: I just think Cam is quarterbacking a lot smarter. He's

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Speaker 1: That is one of my philosophies. I don't love St.

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Speaker 1: every time Palmer struggled last week, if he played better

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Speaker 1: Now it's six of six losers of three and four,

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Speaker 1: As always, Mark always sets up his hero picks some

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Speaker 1: dare you Marks stick to your guns? Man? Oh? Hekay? Rich,

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Speaker 1: Chicago at home Monday night to teams that are you know,

427
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: very very tough to predict, unreliable. I'm going Bears, I

428
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: already did what a defense? Your defense is as good

429
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 1: as the Bears rushed the Cowboys capable of going on

430
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: the road when they had a chance. Here go control

431
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: of the NFC East or at least stay, you know,

432
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: right up there with the Eagles. Will they do that?

433
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: Everything we know about Dallas says no, they will not.

434
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: There you go, that's defending your hero. I don't need

435
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: to defend picking against Dallas. Wow, now he's getting Can

436
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: you tell me a more disappointing team in the NFL?

437
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a million. I think they're overachieving compared

438
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: were achieving there we're told every season they are. They

439
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: are disappointed, the injuries they've had on defense. They're doing

440
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: just fine in first place ords allowed per game. I

441
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: think this is the rare Cowboys team that is better

442
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: than this is worse than their record indicates. They're lucky

443
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: to be seven and five. I don't think they're very good.

444
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: They've actually pulled off some tough games. They're good now

445
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: they're healthy. All right, let's move on before that. Kevin

446
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: Patrick has actually a real job to do while we're

447
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: up here gallivanting. He is in charge of the news

448
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: operation and he needs to work, so we gotta let

449
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: him go. Alright, follows Aaron Rodgers is out. Thank you, Kevin.

450
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick will see We'll hear from you on Sunday.

451
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: He sounded downtrodden there at the end. You should be happy. No, rogers,

452
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: Your lions got a shot. Um, we we gotta shot.

453
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: You gotta win games. Can't worry, can't worry about other

454
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: people's injuries, Kevin, You gotta go work at some point.

455
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: All right, later, Patrick bringing the football cliches out. I

456
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: love Kevin Patrick. Um, all right, our last hero pick,

457
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: and this one has enormous personal ramifications in this room. Uh.

458
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders at four and eight. As as we

459
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: all know, Chris Westling needs to the Raiders not to

460
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: win six games. If they hit that six victory, Mark

461
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: west eats his softball pants. They are four and eight

462
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: and they're facing the New York Jets, My New York Jets,

463
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: who are crumbling before my very eyes. They're in a

464
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: three game losing streak. Yeah, and three game losing. Geno

465
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: Smith is absolutely off the reservation that the Geno coaster

466
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: is just out of control wreck and it's very hard

467
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: to figure out who would be an actual favorite in

468
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: this game. Somehow, the rest of this most of this room,

469
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: chose the Jets to get off the schnide. Greg Rosenthal

470
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: went with the Raiders. I haven't felt better about a

471
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: hero pick all season. I had a hero pick going

472
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: against the Jets three weeks ago. I believe it was

473
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: with the Bills, and and then since then, I don't

474
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: think Gino Smith has completed a pass. Matt Simms, who

475
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: had I think no products in college, has overtaken him

476
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: during some games to be the quarterback. And yet all

477
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: of you guys have picked the Jets. Does anyone watched it?

478
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: I haven't stood up in a while. Has anyone watched

479
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: the last three weeks? And no one's taken and no

480
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: one's taking the Raiders. Take a seat, by the way,

481
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: The Raiders stink. That's why he and they they're horrible,

482
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: and the Jets offensive line, and sometimes Dennis Allen and

483
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: this Jason Tarber and this Raiders defense, they cook up

484
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: some wild schemes and it can it can, it can

485
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: blow up in their face. It's kind of like Michael

486
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: Lombardi used to talk about battleship football. Sometimes it really works,

487
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. When you're playing Geno Smith and the

488
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: worst offense I have seen in the NFL the entire season,

489
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. Raiders went big. It's shocking that you

490
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: picked the Raiders, knowing full well that Rex Ryan said

491
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, the Jets have their best practice of the season.

492
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: How you cannot take that intel and pick again, and

493
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: you picked against the Jets. That's just that's just not

494
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: using your head. John, if you and the Raiders came

495
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: to you and said, let's say a drug induced Raiders organization,

496
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: said Gino Smith for Matt mcloyn, right up, straight up,

497
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: would of course not. You wouldn't do that. I'm taking

498
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: mcloyn at least for this week. Smith. I know, because

499
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: you're seeing Geno it is absolute and a deer. But

500
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: you know he's also had moments as a rookie. Chris Westling,

501
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: do you realize you're only trailing me in the picks

502
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: for this season because you picked the Jets every week.

503
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: You don't know about the deal I made with Rex Ryan.

504
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: I have to pick the Jets this week especially, I'm

505
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: picking with my heart right well, you have some personal

506
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: stake in this, so that makes sense. And we're banged.

507
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: Let's face it, we're banged if the Raiders can't get

508
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: a win they need in terms of West of Soft

509
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: softball pants. I looked this up on Google is nine

510
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: and set point seven five ft of fabric, and I've

511
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: been talking to chefs. I'm getting excited about this. I'm

512
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: with Greg, I'm for the I know it's fair. I

513
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: have a reason we're rooting for the Jets because it

514
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: was bread into me. But Mark, yeah, you should have picked.

515
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: You should have picked. I thought you liked mclovin. I mean,

516
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: do you like mclovin. But I have to pick the Jets.

517
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: I can't pick the Raiders. If the Raiders don't pull

518
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: this one out on Sunday, they need to go two

519
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: and one against Kansas City at home at San Diego

520
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: and then home against Denver. That's pretty grim. So they

521
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: have to get this. If they get this, I would

522
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: be very concerned for Wesley, and I guess while we're

523
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: on the topic of the Jets, I kind of feel

524
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: good about this game. By the way, the gener coaster

525
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: is due to go back up, right. You've seen out

526
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: roller Coasters Opera. I think it's come to the end

527
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: where everyone gets it's that. It's that that's me sitting

528
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: at my desk. I think it's that roller coaster that

529
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: got sunk into the Hudson River or whatever. That that's

530
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean. Again. Every once in a while, every

531
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: once in a while, it's revealed that we watched so

532
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: much football that we don't know what's going on in

533
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: the world. The roller coaster on the Jersey Shore ended

534
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: up in the Hudson River there during the hurricane. I

535
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: didn't have any power to watch the news coverage at

536
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: the time. And while we're on the topic of the Jets,

537
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: here lies in the New York Jets who could only

538
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: ride the Geno coaster for so long before the catastrophic

539
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: malfunction trapped an entire fan base beneath the wreckage. Please

540
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: send condolence cards to a heavily bearded fireman ed securely

541
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: tucked away and it's fortified underground bunker. It doesn't feel

542
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: good to do this. I gotta say, there was so

543
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: much there was genuine hope after that went over the Saints.

544
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: That put the Jets into the bye week. But they

545
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: came out of the bye week. Um they signed Ed Reid.

546
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: Uh Dave Gerrard had Gino Smith or Gino Smith had

547
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: David Gerrard as his personal UH salvation helpling to guide

548
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: him through the season. Instead, Gino just went in the

549
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: tank and it took the season with it. At the

550
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: end of the day, all they had going for them

551
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: was the best three or four defensive line in the NFL.

552
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Not enough and also, I guess one of the under

553
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: the radar And you know, it's kind of unfair that

554
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: I just put it all on Gino. A lot of

555
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: it has to do with Gino, but the other part

556
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: of it is the secondary. And they went and they

557
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: got Ed Reid with the hope that he could solve

558
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: their deep ball problems. The secondary went from a Revus

559
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: and Cramarti strength to now a huge issue that the

560
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: team needs to address in the off season. Well, the

561
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: offensive line is much worse than people think. You've got

562
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: David Nelson is your number one receiver. Stephen Hill isn't

563
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: is a draft bust. They have nothing, s Antonio Holmes,

564
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,239
Speaker 1: who's just counting his checks and waiting until the end

565
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: of the season. You're counting on Kellen Winslow to be

566
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: a factor. It's more than just Gino, and Gino got put.

567
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: He got put an impossible situation. Now when you kind

568
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: of take a step back and realize that he was

569
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: rushed into the job, and then he joined a team

570
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: that had very little talent on offense. And then when

571
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: he did what a rookie might do when you when

572
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: you're in your first season, especially when maybe you weren't

573
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: necessarily ready, he started to regress. And now this was

574
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: what I was saying at August. My ultimate fear was

575
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: that he would get rushed in the lineup and it

576
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: would mess his head up because he would start to struggle.

577
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: And now I'm starting to wonder if his confidence. I

578
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: know it's shot right now, but if it's going to

579
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: have lasting consequences on his future. Here's my concern with

580
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: Jets and what we're gonna be dealing with this offseason

581
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: is a steady stream como t A S Geno Smith

582
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: has turned the corner, looks outstanding and practices and I

583
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I think this team aggressively needs to

584
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: find another quarterback. I'll give you a quarterback, Jay Cutler.

585
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that would be nice. I got one for you, Okay,

586
00:30:54,160 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: don't two mentor Michael, I got at all. Well, I

587
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: think they might draft another quarterback. I think they might

588
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: fire the coach. Why wouldn't Drifts Ryan and then draft

589
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: another quarterback? Why would you anchor next year if you're

590
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: a new coach, or if you're Rex Ryan to Gino

591
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Smith after what we've seen, I don't think you would.

592
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 1: Who's the last team to do The Panthers drafted Clawson

593
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: and then turned around and drafted Cam Newton. But they

594
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: had to number one over to pick. That's a little

595
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: bit different. He don't usually admit after one year that

596
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: they messed up. Maybe take another second round pick or

597
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: a third round pick, something else that's a big investment itself,

598
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: second or third round. The reason why I like Cutler,

599
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: and even though I don't like the idea of shot

600
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's has a lot of great

601
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: football left in him. But there's a way to do this.

602
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: If you bring in a veteran guy in his early thirties,

603
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: it not only brings in a guy you could trust

604
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: more potentially it also saves face and also potentially saves

605
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: the chance of Gino Smith getting behind being a backup

606
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: and learning the craft as opposed to this, this test

607
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: he has been going through this year right with color,

608
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: specifically when they finally brought Brandon Marshall to Chicago and

609
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: you see also all Sean Jeffrey developed. Then Cutler is

610
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: able to do what Cutler is able to do. You

611
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: put anyone on the Jets without an offense that they

612
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: start to invest heavily in weapons, anything close to what

613
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: they have this year. There are four or five points

614
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: working under the assumption that the off season a major

615
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: the major focus will be on adding some weapons on

616
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: office is it failed to do that last off And

617
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: the other problem with Cutler is every team without a

618
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be lining. The Jets aren't gonna

619
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: be the only team that would. Why would you go there?

620
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: I have to point out four people on around the

621
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: league pick the Jets to win this week. So that's

622
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: how little faith we have in the Jets overall that

623
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: even though you guys think that they're gonna get to

624
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: six and seven, which potentially could be tied for the

625
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: final wild cards. Right, And I don't disagree with any

626
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: of your thinking that we just don't see them possibly

627
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: going on and run. But there is a reasonable chance

628
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: that they're one game out with three weeks to play,

629
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: or even tied with three weeks to play. So right now,

630
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: all our teams that we've stuck a forking, they look

631
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: pretty dead. Maybe the jettis for one team that Jacksonville

632
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: Jaguars are, right, that's the point. It's like, listen, everyone's alive,

633
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: but a lot of them are terrible football teams. All right,

634
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the rest of the week four

635
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: teen games, and we will start in Baltimore where the

636
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: Vikings a little bit of a frisky Vikings team down

637
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: the stretch, potentially here with a tie and a win

638
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: and back to back weeks, head to Baltimore to face

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, obviously coming off that controversial win over the

640
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: Steelers on Thanksgiving, Mark, I ask you the Ravens are

641
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: they primed to make a hard run toward through December

642
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: and into a playoff spot. Well, I love this matchup

643
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: for Baltimore because Minnesota's defense, which you know we arguably

644
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: is one of the worst in the league. They especially

645
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: are a problem when it comes to big plays. They've

646
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: given up more big plays than any team in football.

647
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: And last couple of weeks, I think Joe Flacco has

648
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: been playing some good, excellent, excellent football and has thrown

649
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: the football deep. They're doing that more, even though you

650
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: don't got an Kwon Bolden to kind of anchor that

651
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: shorter passing game. Tori Smith Jacoby Jones over and over

652
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: against the Steelers, they put them down field. Dennis Pitta

653
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: in the mix this week. Possibly it sounds like he

654
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: will be playing. It looks like at least some sort

655
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: of role. Elvis Dumerville is very questionable for this game,

656
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: which is would be a big loss for them. But yeah,

657
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: you get Pitt up back, and I agree, I think

658
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Flacco is started to make that turn. If you're a

659
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Ravens fan, you gotta feel like you might have another

660
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: little run in him here in December. Looking forward to

661
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: the Xavier Roads Tori Smith matchups. Xavier Road is playing

662
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: very good football for the Vikings right now. The rookie

663
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: cornerback and no One how about your guy Matt Castle

664
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Speaker 1: back back in the mix you love yourself. Matt Castle

665
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: is an upgrade on Ponder. But did you compare Matt

666
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Cassel to earlier in the week, Cam Newton or somebody, Oh,

667
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: this was outrageous. I was just saying he's much more

668
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: athletic than people would think that. He's not really a

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00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Alex Smith game manager type. He's a guy with a

670
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: huge arm that's very athletic, but he's not really that

671
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: good of a quarterback, I understand. Do you think that

672
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Josh Freeman is just pulling the move that old clinics

673
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: would move, the escape from Alcatraz where he has the

674
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: dummy set up and it's just laying in a cot

675
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: in Minnesota's clubhouse and just collecting paychecks somewhere. One of

676
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: the smartest men on the planet. I mean, he's made

677
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: three million dollars to do essentially nothing but go out

678
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: on Monday night football and sting up the joint for people.

679
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: People get fired for decisions like that, and we will

680
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: see if that happens. Alright, moving on, here's a matchup

681
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: between two a f C Division leaders, also two teams.

682
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to do, uh, figure out if

683
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: there are any good but the Indianapolis Colts coming off

684
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: a win uh face to Cincinnati Bengals. These are two

685
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: eight and four teams. Uh. The Bengals are home, and

686
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: I like to think that that might be the difference

687
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: in this type of matchup West as the disenfranchised or

688
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: former or recovering Bengals fan, I will throw to you

689
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: your analysis on this one. Bengals are the better team

690
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: right now, and it's not by a little. The Cultus

691
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: just aren't very good. I could see possibly thinking the

692
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Colts will win if they're playing in India. Maybe luck

693
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: finds a way to pull it out. But the Geno

694
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: Atkins injury really hasn't effected this defense much at all.

695
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: Vantes perfect is playing at an all pro level, which

696
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: is amazing that this they've been able to recover so well,

697
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: considering how good Dae Jenga theory, which block really makes

698
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: it tumble? And apparently Geno Atkins wasn't the block that

699
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: made the Bengals defense go, especially this week when they're

700
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: playing that Colts offensive line and they're having trouble doing anything,

701
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: and that we talked about the Jets is one of

702
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: the worst offense in the league. If you take away

703
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and put in a league average quarterback, the

704
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: Colts would be one of the very worst offense in league.

705
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: They can barely do anything. We all picked the Bengals.

706
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: It's amazing. This is a game between two eight and

707
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: four teams, and I doubt anyone thought too hard about

708
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: picking the Colts. Well and West, you talked about Dalton

709
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: and this was act as a streaky guy that he

710
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, early part first half of this season, he was,

711
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, statistically very effective. But last five games, six touchdowns,

712
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: nine picks, his plays trailed off. And I still listen.

713
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I whoever loses this game, it's over between me and

714
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: that team. It's over. I can't take you, seriously. I can't.

715
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: I almost can't take either of them seriously in terms

716
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: of long term playoff. Look, but whoever loses this to me,

717
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't even want to see you in January. Seriously, though,

718
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: the loser of this game has virtually no chance at

719
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: a playoff by whereas the winner has a very legitimate

720
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: chance because the Patriots have a couple of tough games left,

721
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: and the winner of this game, especially if it's the Bengals,

722
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: who has the tie break over New England, still has

723
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: a good chance at the two. Since he loses in

724
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Baltimore wins, that division is not over clean sweep. By

725
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: the way, Bengals, Uh, every a t L writer picked them,

726
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: So we'll see if we are geniuses or fools. All right,

727
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: let's move on. The Atlanta Falcons, fresh off a nice

728
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: win in Toronto over the Bills, head to Green Bay

729
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: to face a Packers team that needs a win to

730
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: stay alive, and during this stretch of Packers have had

731
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: to me a very soft schedule during this Aaron Rodgers

732
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: free time for the most part, and have not taken

733
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: advantage of it. They've been losing almost every week. West

734
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: will the Packers keep their playoff hopes alive? This is

735
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: the Packers season right here. It's it's that simple. If

736
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: they win and Aaron Rodgers comes back next week, I

737
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: would consider them the favorites in the division. If they lose,

738
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: I think their season is over. If they lose, Just

739
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: just for argument's sake, we're all in this room. At

740
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: least Patrick didn't picking the Eagles to win, so that

741
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: would mean the line the lines are underdogs. The Bears

742
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: are slight underdogs this week. If they lose and those

743
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: two teams lose, and they would still have a chance.

744
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they could get a little help. The

745
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: Lions have a pretty easy schedule the last couple of weeks,

746
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: and they also have an advantage in the standings on

747
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: the Packers right now that half game. But we all

748
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: picked the Packers in this game, so we which I'm

749
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: a little surprised that that we all, you know, didn't

750
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: try to get cute by picking the Falcons, who have

751
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 1: played better the last two weeks. They were very close

752
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: against New Orleans and then they won in Toronto. We're

753
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: all betting on Matt Flynn after thanks, betting on Green

754
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: Bay winning at home against a very bad Atlanta team.

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00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: That's where I went with it. At least I'm not

756
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: betting on Matt Flynn. He's got a terrible arm. I

757
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: think I have visions of Eddie Lacy running for two yards.

758
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: I think about it. I probably would change my pick.

759
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: I can't trust Matt Flann at all. Don't pull us.

760
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: That's another pulling a Sessler wanting to change your pick.

761
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: That's a they lose this game, and you want to

762
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: talk about how they're still mathematically vibrant. I can't go there.

763
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: They're not a playoff team. If they lose this football game,

764
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: they don't. Who wants to see this team in the

765
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: playoffs if they have that's the fiery it's it's your quarterback.

766
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: But it's more and they've shown nothing right, um Mark,

767
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns are going to Foxborough on Sunday. Jason

768
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: Campbell back in line up for the Browns after the concussion,

769
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: which is obviously good news because it means Brandon we

770
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: didn won't be anywhere near the field, not that he

771
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: would be as a concussion, but to me and um

772
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: and I think everyone on a t L picked the Patriots,

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00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: this smells potentially like th Mark. Is there anyway do

774
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: you have any hope that your Browns will stay competitive? No?

775
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: I don't. This lines up as a Patriots wipe out.

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00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, we da We were talking about this yesterday

777
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: morning and about six fifteen am. And this has the lates.

778
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: This feels like every other late season for Cleveland for

779
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: a long long time. Running back, this is the game

780
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: where that the damn breaks and you can listen, they

781
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: lost their one of the best defensive linemen. This week

782
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: to for Desmond Bryan for the rest of the year.

783
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: Even what's good about them is starting to melt away

784
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: and New England takes care of business easily. We've talked

785
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: up the Browns defense all season, and I think that's fair,

786
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: but they have had some opportunity eased to go out

787
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: and help their team win, and they haven't always done that.

788
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: Jacksonville would certainly be an example where I expected the

789
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Browns defense to be a little more dominant. And this

790
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: is about as tough a match up as there is

791
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: right now because the Patriots offense. Chris wrote a good

792
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: piece on on the site about how they're humming right now,

793
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: really with any offense in the league. The last four

794
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: or five weeks, they lead the NFL and points and yards.

795
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: They're actually averaging five more points per game in the

796
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: Broncos over the last five weeks. They on the other hand,

797
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks, they've given up career rushing

798
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: games to Ben Taton, No, Sean Marino, nothing in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is a voidable that's gonna come

800
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: back to haunt them in the playoff. How about the

801
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: last time these two teams played, No. One gave the

802
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: Browns much of a chance. You're right, that was a

803
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: very different time and and honestly was implementing his two

804
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: tight end system. They never lost again that season. One

805
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: last thing on this game, Josh needs a hundred twenty

806
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: four yards to break Calvin Johnson's record for most yards

807
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: that were a four game stretch. Belichick tends to take

808
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: your number one weapon away, especially when you have a

809
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: keep to leave and Devin mccordy Sandwichene Josh Gordon, it'll

810
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: be interesting to see if he can get Patriots. Patriots

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Speaker 1: haven't given up more than one all year. Ominous for

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00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: Mr Gordon. All right. Next up, is it a game

813
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: that some levels is almost like a low grade playoff game.

814
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: You have the Miami Dolphins at six and six and

815
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: coming off definitive win over my Jets, traveling to Pittsburgh

816
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: to face the Steelers now five and seven after that

817
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving loss. Obviously, if the Steelers lose their dead I

818
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: know everyone in this room believed, or most of us believed,

819
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: that the Steelers would be in the mix for that

820
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: last playoff spot. If that. If they are going to

821
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: be in the mix, they need to beat the Dolphins. Greg,

822
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: I ask you, will they do it? I think the

823
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: Steelers will win this game. I know you guys agree.

824
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: We went across the board taking Pittsburgh. The one thing

825
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: I'd be worried about with Pittsburgh is their secondary is

826
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: prone to giving up big plays. Ike Taylor, Ryan Clark,

827
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: Troy Paul Mallu not really playing well. And maybe it's

828
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: just the Ryan Tannehill fan in me, but I think

829
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of like Joe Flacco, He's played quietly pretty well

830
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I think he had a

831
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: good game overall against Caroline. I know he missed a

832
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: couple of throws. I think he had a good game

833
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: against the Jets. He's had some tough things around him

834
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: this season. I think this is a game he could

835
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: play well. There could be a lot of points between

836
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: Ben and Tannehill. I think Ben Roethlisberger is playing at

837
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: a level as high as anyone in the league right

838
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: now at quarterbacks. So almost m v P, like almost

839
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: MVP for the month of November. Like I don't know,

840
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a good question. The committee would

841
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: have to get together. If there was a six and

842
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: seven Dolphins team, committee should probably take a look at

843
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: the Raven schedule too, Yeah, brutal the next three weeks. Well,

844
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: that would indicate that we shouldn't be four teams that

845
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: are at six and seven that have any chance. I

846
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: know that I keep saying this every week, but even

847
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: if the Steelers lose, I don't think they're out of it.

848
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I mean, it's we talked about.

849
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: I don't think so Okay, we didn't even need the committee. Uh.

850
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: Moving on, This is a game one of I think

851
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: might be the only game right greg that has no

852
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 1: playoff ramifications. The Buffalo Bills traveling to Tampa to face

853
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers too also ran teams uh squaring off. So

854
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: that's the game you want to give me? Hey, the Bills,

855
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: and in theory the Bills haven't been mathematically limited. But

856
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: this is the one game other than the Thursday night

857
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: game that really has no juice to it. And I

858
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: think it's what immediately comes to mind is these two

859
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, which one is a little further along, and

860
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that we know can feel any better

861
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: about E. J. Manuel at this point of the season

862
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: than we did in Week one. Don't you think that

863
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks is a lot further along. Yes,

864
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: that quarterback is Mike Lennon. Moving on to Kansas City

865
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs now at nine and three. They went from nine

866
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: and o nine and three head to Washington to face

867
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: a free falling Redskins team. Uh that lost again on

868
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: Sunday night to the Giants and that weirdly non flexed game. Um,

869
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: at some point the Chiefs are going to get back

870
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: on the on the winning side of things. Mark, I

871
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: ask you, it's it will happen against the Redskins. Right. Well,

872
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I yes, if I, if I

873
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: and I made a pick, I picked the Chiefs. But

874
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: this defense kind of falling off a cliff last couple

875
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: of weeks there. I realized they played the Broncost twice.

876
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: There was high level heat building up the Chiefs defense

877
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: for the first two months of the season. You don't

878
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: hear much of that anymore. This game to me is

879
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: about as unappealing as any on the slate. Why Why

880
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: because I am absolutely exhausted. Well, they've got that going on.

881
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted with the Redskins at this point. I really

882
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: feel like they need to roll up the carpet and

883
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: just shut it down. It's over. You know who else

884
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: is exhausted with the Red Mike sha in a hand.

885
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if after the season we've found

886
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: out this has been an elaborate like Weekend at Bernie's

887
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: before going on that this isn't really even Shanahan. They

888
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: just have some puppet that Kyle is. They're gonna skip three.

889
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna go right from Weekend of Bernie's two, where

890
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: they became Jamaican Calypso dancers. One of the worst sequels

891
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: in the history of cinema never happened Weekend of Bernie's

892
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: to let's talk about For all the talking about r

893
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: G three, the Redskins have held the lead for fewer

894
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: minutes than any team in the NFL this season. They've

895
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: given up at least twenty four points in eleven of

896
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: twelve games. It's the defense, stupid. And this week, you know,

897
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm out of the fantasy game, but we're here in

898
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: the fantasy playoffs, and Alex Smith I think would be

899
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: a great option this week because Chris wants to bag

900
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: on him like you did when you have to give

901
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: him credit for playing at great It's preposterous to think

902
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: that he's a better quarterback to you were saying he

903
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: didn't win during this stretch and he played outstanding. He's

904
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: played outstanding. Well, that's a little chief. They need a big,

905
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: top heavy win to get back in the conversation here

906
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: because it's hard to take them extremely seriously. Uh, and

907
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: we're talking about January at this point. One and done. Alright,

908
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans head to Mile High to face the

909
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: Tenant to Tennant to Broncos. The Titans now on life support.

910
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: It was, as we talked about earlier this week, great

911
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: week for the Fourth Committee on Sunday, this past Sunday.

912
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: All the teams that kind of had a heartbeat lost.

913
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: Titans are basically out of it. They can they can

914
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: somehow beat the Broncos. Maybe we could think about it,

915
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: but Greg, there's no way that that happens, right, There's

916
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: no way. And the Titans are worse I think than

917
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: their five and seven record indicates. I think they're gonna

918
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: be a coaching change. The one thing I'm looking forward

919
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: to in this game does Peyton Manning. It's supposed to

920
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: be really cold there and degree it's supposed to be

921
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: really cool does he keep Aaron and out? Because rewatching

922
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: that Broncos Chiefs game, he was throwing bombs down in

923
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: Kansas City. They had not been a vertical team all year,

924
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: and he made a lot of really nice deep throws.

925
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: I hate to jump on this narrative because it doesn't

926
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: seem smart, but every evidence points to the fact that

927
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning does not play well when it's cold and windy.

928
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: He's one in five in his career under thirty degrees,

929
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: one in five for one of the winning his quarterbacks

930
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: of all time. This quarterback rating is seventy six point

931
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: two as opposed to a hundred when it's not cooled.

932
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: I heard in another moment of infidelity listening to the

933
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: Tony Cornheiser show. He was talking about when he when

934
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: he worked for Monday Night Football, and he asked somebody,

935
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: a high level source with the Packers, why are you

936
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: moving on from Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers. It wasn't

937
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: because they needed to get Aaron Rodgers in. The source

938
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: told Cony Tony Cornheiser, have you seen far of playing

939
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: cold weather the last few years? Owen six on the

940
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: road for Brett five in games below freeze, I don't

941
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: know why I saw that step this week. We know

942
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: Manning has possibly the weakest arm in the NFL as

943
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: far as arm strength and getting the ball in tight spaces. Hello,

944
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: Matt Flynn, all right, they're on the same level. Manning

945
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: does so many things to compensate for that. But when

946
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: it's cold and windy and you're powering the ball through

947
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 1: the wind, it's an issue. Can I make one point,

948
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: by the way, because I know um and the stats

949
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: that West spring up are obviously obviously accurate and speak

950
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: to something. But this comes up with Manning constantly. Of

951
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: course over the last few weeks. It's amplified. But are

952
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: there quarterbacks when you change the conditions like that? Isn't

953
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: that every quarterback? And wouldn't it be more Tom Brady's

954
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: excellent in the cold? Well there's one example. Yeah, Look,

955
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: the same game that Manning struggled, Brady was great. Remember

956
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: the blizzard against the Cardinals when Brady put up fifty

957
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: something points on the road in below freezing conditions. That

958
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: was against a terrible team, though, if I recall went

959
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: on to the Super Bowl, Oh that was well, just

960
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: tell me to shut up, isn't because he's just before

961
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: they went on the role, though that was a different

962
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: cardinal Sytember October November with Manning, he just hee's in

963
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: such commands, such control, and he obviously got off to

964
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: what looked like almost an electric robotics starts. He's gonna

965
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: rip rip up the record. But the best game last week,

966
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: I think, say he can't prove us all wrong, but

967
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: I think his arm as a factor in the cold.

968
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they can't run a bunch of wide

969
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: receiver screens and still get big plays. I'm with us.

970
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: I I see a different guy. I saw a different

971
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: guy in that Patriots game. I understand he made some

972
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: keiths ros, but he looked like he didn't want to

973
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: be there the same way. I don't want to. I

974
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: don't want to get into whether he wants to be

975
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: there or not. I just I think it's an armed thing,

976
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: all right. The last game that we have here, the

977
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: New York Giants, who were forked by the A t

978
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: L crew, can't really take him seriously. At this point.

979
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: They go to San Diego to face the Chargers team

980
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: that needs that needs this game to hang in there. Um.

981
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: I know the Giants are coming off a win, but

982
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: I you know, I think the Philip Rivers uh led Chargers.

983
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna win this game that at home needed the

984
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: Giants playing hard for Coughin at the end of the season.

985
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see the Charges losing this.

986
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? We all took the Chargers

987
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: and the most disappointing thing about the Giants I think

988
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: is that they've never really gotten their passing game going.

989
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: We kind of thought eventually they'll snap back into it,

990
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: and that hasn't happened. This is a week it should

991
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: because they're playing the Chargers, but it hasn't really happened.

992
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: I trust Philip Rivers and that trade by the Chargers

993
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: looking a little better right now. I'm just but seriously, though,

994
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: I would take if you put Philip Rivers in New York,

995
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: I think you win super Bowls to stand on that.

996
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there we go denigrating the Giants two

997
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: super Bowls over the Patriots doing it? Is it by we?

998
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: I agree with Greg Philip Rivers would have won the

999
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowls too, and yet he didn't did he wasn't

1000
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 1: on the Giants. It was because, yeah, because Philip Rivers

1001
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: never had teams around him the career. The Charges are

1002
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: quietly becoming a fun team to watch with Keenan Allen

1003
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: and Ladarius Green. They've got and Ryan Matthews, Danny Woodhead,

1004
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: They're they're fun to watch. So you're assigned to this game? Wait?

1005
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't want him? Um? All right, before we go,

1006
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of bits of housekeeping. First off,

1007
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: we we threw it to our Twitter audience to come

1008
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: up with some ideas for we're looking to name the

1009
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: stat when the quarterback uh never gets hit for a

1010
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: whole game by a defense, it's a great failure by

1011
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: the defense. So here are a few that jumped out.

1012
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: I of course nominated Dirty Peter, which has gotten some

1013
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: good buzz on the net, but we're not sure if

1014
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: that's gonna win. Obviously, Uh some negative buzz too. This, Yeah,

1015
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: it's just buzz. It's buzzy. Uh, how about let's see

1016
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: Josh Wiles, writes, Sactary of Sadness. All right, what do

1017
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: you guys think about that one? In the mix? Continue?

1018
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: Al right? Next up, Raoul Romo, it's a great name,

1019
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: writes how about no folly Molly. I don't even know

1020
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: what that means. I don't. I don't either. That involved drug.

1021
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: There was one called the clean sheet. I remember not

1022
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: to steal your thunder. Well, you've got a whole list,

1023
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: you've prepared it. Sports Guru mufc uh rights, it has

1024
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: to be doing an mc hammer. They can't touch it.

1025
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: Come on, there six or seven recommendations for the mc hammer.

1026
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: You can't touch this, which I thought, come on, it's

1027
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: a bit of culturally it's a little dated, isn't it.

1028
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: I don't mind because that's right in my wheelhouse. But

1029
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: come on, super fresh, all right, what else do we

1030
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: have here? I saw one mention for Casper because it's

1031
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: a friendly ghost like them. It's a friendly ghost. It's

1032
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: casperver Jedi, the real Jedi writes a QB, no hitter

1033
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: should be called a dirty Sanchez. We obviously cannot go there.

1034
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: And no hitter actually is not a bad one. No

1035
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: hitter is not bad that you cross into it and

1036
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: has a connotation of a good thing though, right, it's

1037
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: a little confusing, but it's not bad. And then Dooger

1038
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: two says it's hammer time because you can't touch it.

1039
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: So apparently MC hammer is still relevant figure in the world.

1040
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: I think among the four of us, we've come up

1041
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: with the perfect answer. Greg, Well, we I suggested this

1042
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: one the other day. A Ghoston, named after one of

1043
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: the latest greatest New York jets of all time, did

1044
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: have some QB hits though in his career. Well, I'm

1045
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: just I'm just being stubborn because I like dirty Peter.

1046
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, we need to do We need to throw

1047
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: it to the people Cambridge. Is there any way to

1048
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: start a pole or where we could give give the

1049
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: A t L Debate club listeners an option to vote.

1050
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: We can figure something out, but for right now use

1051
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: the hashtag what is it? A t L clean QB

1052
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: QB A t L clean QB. Yeah, keep them coming

1053
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: and we will will continue to figure it out. Um

1054
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: and before one last thing before we go, I think

1055
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: we're we're thinking about bringing up bringing back when West

1056
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: as toaster h next Wednesday. So, but it all depends.

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Speaker 1: We need we need to have some contestants. So we

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Speaker 1: obviously have uh, your friend West and Nemesis Hum and

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Speaker 1: beyond that, we want to have maybe one more contestants,

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Speaker 1: So reach out to us. There are a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys who told me they could take me down. I

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Speaker 1: should probably be favorite Nise tweets and sending them to

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Speaker 1: you and Cabridge. Alright, k Rich, keep an eye on

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Speaker 1: that um and that's it. We're out of here. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. We'll be back on Sunday night going

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Speaker 1: over all the week fourteen results, so uh check back

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Speaker 1: for that. Until then, this is Dan Hansis signing up

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Speaker 1: for the Mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss k Rich behind

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Speaker 1: the glass and lie all the intern until Sunday