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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 2: That's one pm for our friends in beautiful Ashtabulah, Ohio,

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Speaker 2: on this Thursday, September fourth, and we are live from

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Speaker 2: media to HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Randall Williams,

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Speaker 2: and I have the distinct pleasure today of being joined

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Speaker 2: by my two friends, Ryan Callahan and Seth Morris.

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Speaker 3: It's good to be here.

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Speaker 2: On today's show, we're talking to Ben Batton.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you sent me the script for this week,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know what I'm supposed to say. Am

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Speaker 1: I genuinely supposed to say?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 2: No? No, that's that's in a minute here. I will

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Speaker 2: send you the script right now in do you know

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Speaker 2: how to check slack?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Her email is better.

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Speaker 3: We should have we should have went over this a

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Speaker 3: little bit ago. But I'm Dickie here, we are. You're

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: Never can tell around here. On today's show, we're talking

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Speaker 2: to Ben Batton.

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Speaker 3: We've got a.

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Speaker 2: Hot, hot, hot tip off. We're gonna do a little

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Speaker 2: show and tell. We're gonna talk to Mark Kenyon about

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Speaker 2: the latest public land controversy, and finally you are faithful,

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Speaker 2: audience will choose the winner of the trailcam photo contest

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Moultrie. Sounds like another fantastic episode,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Seth, how are you guys doing today?

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Speaker 1: Fantastic, real good, real good, high anxiety likes started. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I have lots to do before or I can

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Speaker 1: like really get serious about hunting season.

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Speaker 2: That's your first big trip.

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Speaker 1: Brown bear in Alaska, which is a big, big trip

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Speaker 1: for anybody. Yeah, yeah, and truly a trip I never

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Speaker 1: thought I would go on, So, I mean it's it's huge,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to get any mental place with

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Speaker 1: all the adult responsibilities where I can just focus on

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Speaker 1: nothing but that.

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Speaker 3: Sure, it's hard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so you did you.

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Speaker 3: Ever guide a brown bear hunt before?

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Speaker 1: I worked as a packer for one season up on

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Speaker 1: the peninsula, So it'll be super cool to come back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, cool, it'll be awesome.

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Speaker 1: You know, like any ultra low paid position in the

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Speaker 1: outdoor world, you just do everything when you're up.

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Speaker 2: There, and you never dream about being the guy sitting

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Speaker 2: on the other side of the boat.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, never, never, And just like at that point

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Speaker 1: in my life too, I was like, how much did

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Speaker 1: the tag car?

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Speaker 2: Who would ever do this?

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Speaker 3: Jeez?

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Speaker 2: Incredibly indulgent, Seth, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm great? I'm uh. I gotta say I'm more excited

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Speaker 3: for fall fishing than picking up the boat at this

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Speaker 3: point in my life.

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Speaker 2: M hm. Got out this weekend for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yep, but I Jason, just big brown trout running after streamers,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're thinking about. No, just drown.

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Speaker 3: Big wall eyes and small mouth putting on the feedbag

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Speaker 3: for winter, That's what That's what gets me excited. That

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Speaker 3: and then just the thought of rifle season coming. I

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Speaker 3: like shooting things at further distances with center fire cartridges.

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Speaker 2: Your trip out to the Pecker, Uh.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of ship happened that that. It's

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Speaker 3: a long story. It's a long story. We got one

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Speaker 3: solid day in, but the weekend ended, uh sooner than

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Speaker 3: ike s back, So we'll just end it there. I

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Speaker 2: I got back to my old stomping grounds and the

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Speaker 2: Little Miami River, and I drowned four night crawlers, caught

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Speaker 3: That probably puts you back in a certain place and time.

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Speaker 2: My god, just the the bugs landing on me just

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Speaker 3: Was it after dark?

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Speaker 2: No, because much of my disappointment, all of my childhood

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Speaker 2: closes at sundown or dusk. Yeah, like it used to

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Speaker 2: be the case that this is before Onyx, We're just like,

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Speaker 2: And then we sort of verified that yes, it was

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Speaker 2: I pulled up, I was like, like, I came back

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Speaker 2: bought a big old cann of cors Light and twelve

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Speaker 2: night brawlers ripped down with like ten minutes before sunset

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Speaker 2: we used to have fight club down there, you know,

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Speaker 2: it used to be the wild West.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm advocating heavily with my buddy and his wife who's

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Speaker 1: this is a real like western Montana family float fish

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Speaker 1: fly fishing for trout all the time. But I'm trying

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Speaker 1: for antelope camp this year, with the intention of getting

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Speaker 1: that kid on some catfish too. So much introducing the

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Speaker 1: joy of sitting next to a rod that's just stuck

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Speaker 2: I did bring I did bring a bell. I got

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Speaker 2: to listen to the bell jingle. Excellent stuck stuck my

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Speaker 2: rod butt in a tangled root, Paul, and just oh,

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Speaker 2: it's like old times. But I didn't get a catfish.

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Speaker 2: I just caught a cut a little striper. Oh, and

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Speaker 2: then I broke my rod. I set the hook in

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Speaker 2: that striper, and I heard this little tick, and I

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Speaker 2: that maybe the jiggled loose. And then I got the

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Speaker 2: five inches above the cork. So that's why I only

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Speaker 2: drowned four of the twelve worms. Eight of them are

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Speaker 2: probably still living rich lives alongside the beautiful banks of

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Speaker 3: Well, at least you got out there and got a couple.

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Speaker 2: All maybe you want to do is go back immediately, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and just float that thing again and again and again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that's the.

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Speaker 1: Thing that nobody can properly celebrate, right is Failure just

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Speaker 1: really makes you be like, like your weekend, right, I'm

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Speaker 3: Need to go back. Oh God, I just put a

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Speaker 3: big W on the board. All I think about every

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Speaker 3: day since then is I just gotta get back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasted my weekend failed, Yeah, exactly, got to

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Speaker 1: do it right.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of doing things right, Joining us on the

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Speaker 2: line next is Mark Kenyan, Oh yeah, post of the

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Speaker 2: Wired to Hunt podcast and author of That Wild Country

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Speaker 2: and epic journey through the past, present, and future of

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Speaker 2: America's public lands.

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Speaker 1: Meet Eats, Most Beautiful cast member, Mark, Welcome to the show, sir,

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Speaker 1: there he is.

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Speaker 5: Look at that Oh stunning, cal You're you're too kind.

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Speaker 4: You're too kind. It's good to be here though, guess

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Speaker 4: thanks for having me Mark.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of news recently about something called

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Speaker 2: the roadless Rule, and uh for those listening to this,

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Speaker 2: they're not familiar with the road risk, the roadless rule.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain what the roadless rule is?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So the two thousand and one Roadless Rule was

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Speaker 5: enacted by the National Forest Service and the US Department

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Speaker 5: of Agriculture back in two thousand and one, as the

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Speaker 5: title would tell you, in response to a couple different

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Speaker 5: things going on at that time. You had one which

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Speaker 5: was a serious backlog in maintenance of the Forest Service

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Speaker 5: road system. So the US Forest Service has nearly four

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Speaker 5: hundred thousand miles of roads running across their public lands.

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Speaker 5: That's a lot of work to try to keep that,

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Speaker 5: you know, in good working conditions that people can access

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Speaker 5: their public lands, so that folks can access these different

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Speaker 5: So at this time in the late nineties, they realized, wow,

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Speaker 5: we have a massive maintenance backlog. These roads that have

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Speaker 5: been subsidized by taxpayers are now not providing the return.

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Speaker 4: Having serious budget issues.

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Speaker 5: At the same time, we have also, as one person

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Speaker 5: put it, cut the face off our forests in many places,

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Speaker 5: and now we are left with just you know, fragments

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Speaker 5: you know, long story short.

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Speaker 4: What that led to was the Roadless Rule.

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Speaker 5: It was a very long process, you know, almost two years,

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Speaker 5: hundreds of public meetings, one point six million public comments

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Speaker 5: All that led to this rule being created enacted, and

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Speaker 5: it protected about fifty eight point five million acres of

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Speaker 5: there were exceptions baked into this rule that allowed for

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Speaker 5: four years now. And these places are some of our

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Speaker 5: you know, our best, our last best backcountry elk hunting spots,

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Speaker 5: mule deer hunting spots, you know, high country trout spots.

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Speaker 5: I went on my two kids at the time, they

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Speaker 5: and five that was in one of our inventory roadless areas.

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Speaker 5: I killed my first elk on an inventoried roadless area.

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Speaker 5: So long story short, these are really really special places,

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Speaker 5: and they're in the news right now because the administration

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Speaker 5: those protections. So that's the high level scoop. That's what

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Speaker 2: Gotcha. And so what are the I guess what are

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Speaker 2: the main arguments on both sides of the issue. What's

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Speaker 2: the rationale for You've laid out a bit of about

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Speaker 2: the benefits of these roadless areas for hunters and anglers,

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Speaker 2: but what's the rationale for rolling it back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so in the proposal in the you know, in

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Speaker 5: all of the press releases and comments from the administration,

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Speaker 5: from the Secretary of Agriculture, the reason for rolling back

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Speaker 5: the roadless rule has supposedly been to to help you know,

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Speaker 5: move forward with President Trump's executive order to expand timber

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Speaker 4: They have you know, too much.

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Speaker 5: Fuel for wildfire, so wildfire risk is high, the habitat

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Speaker 4: That's why they say they should roll this rule back.

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Speaker 4: And I think there's you know, two things to consider.

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Speaker 2: Who could forget?

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Speaker 4: What's that?

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Speaker 2: Who could forget that?

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, we need to have management that can be

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Speaker 5: roldless areas it should be. There's plenty of challenges to

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Speaker 5: I think there's a conversation to be had there and

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Speaker 2: Sure, are there specific regions or forests where this debate

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So there are inventoried roadless areas, which are what

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Speaker 5: we call these places that the roadless road applies to.

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Speaker 5: There are iras inventory roadless areas and thirty nine different

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Speaker 5: that I know that Trod and Limited has been working

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot to be discussed there in Alaska.

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Speaker 5: I know, for example, you know, in Wyoming and Montana,

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Speaker 2: Gotcha? And what should people who care about public lands

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Speaker 2: Where do things stand right now? And if they want

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So this past Friday, so five six days ago,

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Speaker 5: the Federal Register. We have until September nineteenth to do so.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, this is this is the democratic process.

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Speaker 5: This is our opportunity to get in there and submit

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Mark, thanks for thanks for helping us better

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Speaker 2: understand this issue and for everything you're doing for public lands.

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Speaker 2: I know you got some groceries to unload and you've

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Speaker 2: got some deer to hunt this afternoon, So with that

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Speaker 2: we'll let you go.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Thanks Mark. Good Night's Mark.

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Speaker 2: Boy, he's got a he's got a good delivery there.

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Speaker 3: Oh, great delivery. Great.

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Speaker 2: Good to have advocates like that on our side.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. On that note too.

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Speaker 6: Rashad comment and said Mark just got out of the

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Speaker 6: I will say, Mark, the reason for that is that

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Speaker 2: So's he's on a little family hunting and fishing trip

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Speaker 1: Can I can I throw in a little color on roadless?

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Speaker 3: Sure, because so we call it.

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Speaker 1: Roadless, but there's about twenty million acres out there that

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Speaker 3: How is it roadless? Right?

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Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of sewing that goes on to

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Speaker 3: But the flip side of this is.

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Speaker 2: That you see the same thing with the Endangered Species Act.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly is the roadless rule is really working

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Speaker 1: And so obviously there's middle ground here for roadless rule

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Speaker 1: We're talking about an area that Seth does not go

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Speaker 1: But is that a situation where we have to roll

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Speaker 2: To accommodate these yes, specific things.

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Speaker 1: So, like, I, for one, very sick and tired of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, well, agreed, keep pounting the drum our. Next

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: Shot down? The sweet tones?

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Speaker 1: Shot is the song It's better? Or Philip dancing to

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Speaker 2: Stink face is good. Stink face is good.

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Speaker 1: Can you see I'm putting gel in his hair to

444
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: that song?

445
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that cut seth. Let's start with you did

446
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 2: you bring to share with the class today?

447
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: I brought a thing that I found out on the

448
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 3: prairie one time when I was hunting deer.

449
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: Boy, that's neat.

450
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 3: This is a bison skull that I found sticking out

451
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: of a bank. Wow in Montana. It's an eater size bison. Yeah,

452
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: not a big one.

453
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: Where are you hunting deer in Montana? And uh, like county?

454
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: Just joking.

455
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: So, my wife had just killed a pretty cool cactus buck,

456
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: and we were several miles from our vehicle at this

457
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: point in time, and it was starting to get dark,

458
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: and uh, I just pulled up the old ONEX and

459
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: noticed that there was a two track that got us

460
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: a little closer. So I kept her there to work

461
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: on the deer. She needed some experience in breaking critters

462
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: down by herself anyway, opportunity.

463
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so plus then you don't have to be there

464
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 2: during that process. Yep.

465
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm gonna go back and get

466
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: the get the truck and make a loop and we'll

467
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: get a little closer for the pack out. So I

468
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: did that, and all my way there, I just happened

469
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: to catch out of the corner of my eye a

470
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: little bit of white sticking out of a bank that

471
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: was wasn't even like a exposed type bank that has like,

472
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: you know, a bunch of soil and stuff. It was

473
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: just like completely over and grass and little woody shrubs

474
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: and set. Yeah, and uh yeah, I just saw a

475
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: little piece of white and I kind of got the

476
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: digging around and it just kept getting bigger and bigger

477
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: and ended up digging that thing out, which was cool. Yeah,

478
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: I should I was in a hurry, so I kind

479
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: of there was a lot more to it than this. Yeah,

480
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: I should have taken my time and got the whole thing.

481
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you got got the misses back there

482
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, just abandoned go.

483
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: The butchering went all right.

484
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: Well I got back and uh she had just stopped

485
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: and was like I got to a point where I

486
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: just didn't know what I was doing, so I figured

487
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I'd wait for you, gotcha? But uh yeah, very cool.

488
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: So I never found one.

489
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: I'd love to, you know, there's a lot of them

490
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 3: out there. You just got to find them. A lot

491
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: of them are buried. But a cool story about the

492
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: the buck she killed. I found that deer like twelve

493
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: miles away the day before. Oh cool. Yeah, And we

494
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: woke up that morning and we're like, we're just gonna

495
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: go hunt a different area, and for whatever reason, it

496
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: to be that deer overnight.

497
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: To get killed.

498
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: Moved a lot. So yeah, that's cool, that's really cool.

499
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: Cal, What did you bring the class here?

500
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: So I actually thought about this m first time here?

501
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: Or meteor radio life, Nate says, who wants to place

502
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: odds on what Cal takes off the wall for his show?

503
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

504
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Take off the nightstand, I think.

505
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: So this is the first real good book I've read

506
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: in a while here, and it's by this dude, Nate Schweber,

507
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: who was actually I think we were actually classmates, or

508
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: maybe we didn't overlap, but he's a Hellgate knight a

509
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: little Montana just like I am. This America of ours

510
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: Bernard Navis Devoto, and it is a great conservation history book.

511
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of relevance for this time in

512
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: space right now. There's a healthy help on of super

513
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: cute love story. There's all sorts of I would call

514
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: him like celebrity cameos in here that are are really

515
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: interesting as well.

516
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: But really.

517
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: It tackles a lot of like land theft, public land theft,

518
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: and it's like.

519
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: He's really engaged in like the late forties and fifties

520
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: right to photo, Yeah.

521
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean earlier earlier in that too, taken before his time. Yeah,

522
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: big old heart attack. Yeah, cut him down.

523
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: But so when you're looking to forget about your day

524
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: to day stresses, pick up a book about public land

525
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: theft and pillaging of our shared resources.

526
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

527
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: And the reality is is just like today, the reason

528
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: that folks trying to take all this awesome stuff away

529
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: from us is because folks were paying attention.

530
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it took.

531
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Gold Bernard and nave us here to shine a little

532
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: light on the situation. So great book, highly recommend.

533
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: Very cool. Yeah, appreciate it well. I brought. I brought

534
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: two things. One I was the first idea, and I

535
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: thought it was a good psa. So I was looking

536
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: at the gear shelf and oh, bless your heart, this

537
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: is the deuce number three. It's a trial for burying

538
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: your waist when you need to defecate in the woods,

539
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: which I hope to be doing plenty of this fall

540
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: if my work commitments allow. This probably weighs like like

541
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: weighs like a couple credit cards. I mean, it's nothing.

542
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: Slide it right there next to your water bottle. Well

543
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: maybe not next to your water bottle, but it fits

544
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: almost anywhere. It's flat and burier. Duke folks cal had

545
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: an unfortunate incitant recently.

546
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: The whole weekend the was just marked by human feces

547
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: on dogs in dogs surface pooping. Ye, human surface pooping.

548
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: The woods around Bosangelus are heavily loved by humans and

549
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: they're not burying their waist.

550
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: So if you, if you're going out into the woods

551
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: this fall, and I hope you.

552
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: Are, imagine a long haired border collie, be prepared rolling

553
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: in your feces, yeah, and then running back and wanting

554
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: to jump in the vehicle.

555
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: So this is this actually says on here.

556
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: It's bad.

557
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: It's zero point ninety seven ounces.

558
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: Snort eight for human poop and we make out think

559
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, it's horrifying. It is horrifying, Randall, Why

560
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: is that deduced number three?

561
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: They have different sizes, gotcha?

562
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: I think that's adults.

563
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: That's great question. Yeah, there's different sizes.

564
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: I mean, mama bear, baby bear.

565
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: I used to knock a bear trowel.

566
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 7: Guy.

567
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: I used to be like, oh, there's plenty of sticks

568
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: in the woods, but you know, when you got to go,

569
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: you don't want to have to dig around for something

570
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: to dig around with.

571
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, or just grabbing that rock to flip over.

572
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Just grab the deuce and release the deuce, as I

573
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: like to say, there you go. And then I also, uh,

574
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: I lost my bipod hunting last fall, and uh, it

575
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: fell off my rifle. It's got a like a little

576
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: arc of clamp and I was in a I was

577
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: in an unfortunate situation of trying to get a shot

578
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: off at an animal and lost my bipod. Didn't realize

579
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: until I got back home. Followed my Onyx track and

580
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: grabbed it last week. So a little once over with

581
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: the wire wheel on the dremal and she's good to go.

582
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: So nice, ready for ready to getting ready for the fall.

583
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't make up my mind when I visited the

584
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: gear bench.

585
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: I like it.

586
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: So you just just casually strolled in, just grabbed.

587
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: Something, didn't even think about it.

588
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, audience, phil Uh, what's chat saying?

589
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 6: Hey, listen your feedback. We got some good questions this week.

590
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 6: This might be a good one for cal. I don't know,

591
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 6: but Leland asks, what are everyone's favorite dove recipes?

592
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Yeah, don't cook them too long?

593
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of medium, raresh and and just gnawm them

594
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: off the bone. I've also ground him into sausage. My

595
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: favorite thing that I've ever done, probably is you take

596
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: your dove breasts and throw some kotia cheese and cilantro

597
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: and salt and a little cumin, and run that stuff

598
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: through the grinder and use the soft sausage stuff and

599
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: attachment and just shoot it right into halapinos. Oh, and

600
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: then just roast the jlipinos while on the top deck

601
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: of the Pellet Girl.

602
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a twist on the classic popper.

603
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: Oh people, Yeah, it's a killer. That's real good.

604
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've classier than the I've always done, like a

605
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: classic popper. Or just throw them on the grill real

606
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: quick and yeah them rare.

607
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. We used to fill at the meat off the

608
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: breast and throw it in spaghetti sauce. It was like

609
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: instead of me like spaghetti and me balls. There was

610
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: like spaghetti and duve breasts. Good.

611
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 6: Ramble Ethan says, did you pick up some skyline while

612
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 6: you were home? And follow up for me, how was

613
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 6: the tailgate tour your stop?

614
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: Well, I can answer the first question pretty quickly.

615
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: Yes.

616
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: Immediately after the Ohio State Buckeyes vanquished the uh deplorable

617
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: Texas Longhorns, I celebrated with four cheese conies onion mustard

618
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: in a small freeway. And then when the guy came

619
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: back and he said with the check, and he said,

620
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: you guys good, I said, no, bring me another cheese

621
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: cony please, just one onion and mustard. So I had

622
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: five plus three way And the next day I went

623
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: to the Reds game. And on the way to the

624
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: Reds game, I had four cheese conies, onion and mustard,

625
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: and I wanted to get more, but time didn't allow it.

626
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: I was on sort of a you know, I had

627
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: to crammele lot in I think, going to the zoo,

628
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: going to the baseball game, catching a fish.

629
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: I did it all.

630
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: But the tailgate tour was good. I met some delightful folks.

631
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: I saw there was a question there about ehd in Ohio,

632
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: and I heard a lot about EHD in Ohio. Sounds

633
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: like it's pretty bad at the moment. And actually, when

634
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: I was driving back from the airport to my folks house,

635
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: there's a guy that you know, like the houses that

636
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: like we'll write something on plywood and stick it out

637
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: by the road with their thoughts on the world. And

638
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: this guy had written postponed deer Hunting twenty twenty five,

639
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: let the herd recover.

640
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: WHOA wow.

641
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: And that was like a half an hour off. After

642
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: I got off the plane, I was like, whoa, this

643
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: is pretty serious. And then sure enough that sort of

644
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: peaked my curiosity. And the next day I heard a

645
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: lot about EHD. So but all in all, fabulous to

646
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: be in the Buckeye State and got to see Ohio

647
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: State win, got to see the Reds win, and got

648
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: to see some gorillas.

649
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 6: So, and that was Mason asking about EHD in Ohio.

650
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 6: This is from Stephen question for Seth. I'm trying to

651
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 6: beat twelve pounds four ounces Walleyes. Is four pack a

652
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 6: consideration or should I just be considering eerie?

653
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: I think you're narrowing it. You're narrowing in too much.

654
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: There's lots of places where you can beat twelve pounds

655
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: four ounces. The whole Missouri River system as as a

656
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: whole is pretty fantastic. A lot of places in the Midwest.

657
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: I'd recommend looking at survey data from local or from

658
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: state fish and game agencies. You can a lot of

659
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: times you can go on there and see when they

660
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: survey different lakes. They'll do something that fish app with

661
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: that has all the survey data in it, the.

662
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: I fish what what is the the onyx.

663
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: On ex fish fish app has. I think they have

664
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Speaker 3: Wisconsin and Minnesota and I think they just dropped Ohio recently.

665
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can go on there and look at

666
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: different lakes and see trophy potential. But I mean Fort

667
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: Peck and Eerie are both great fisheries. But I'm not

668
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: sure where you live, but there might be places a

669
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: lot closer to home. Great good luck, I hope you

670
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: beat it. Hey, Jamie, your Amber would your Amber your

671
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: wife Amber would like us to say hi to you. Hi,

672
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 3: thanks for being a watcher and a listener.

673
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: Shout out, shout out, Jamie Thibodeaux.

674
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: There you go.

675
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: Assuming you have the same last name as your wife.

676
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 6: Ralph asks cal A couple of months ago you were

677
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 6: on and talking about boots. You said, always get a

678
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 6: good pair of insuls. I am in the market for

679
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 6: some insuls and would love a recommendation if you have any. Thanks, boy, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Go some place where you can kind of get an

681
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: idea of what you're in s dep is and then

682
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: you like, you know, the I don't know what they

683
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: call a little footboard things any like kind of nice

684
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: boot shop has something like this, and they oftentimes have

685
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: an assortment of all the insoles out there too, and

686
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: and the difference between the insuls is like cushion, but

687
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: also how it fits the arch of your foot. And

688
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, like all good things in life, it takes

689
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: a little little do one, little little time invested on

690
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: your part. But uh yeah, fine, final one that that

691
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: feels comfy and and eliminates that foot slide and you'll

692
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: be in good shape if.

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Speaker 3: If for alf lives in central Pennsylvania. Little shameless plug

694
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: for the family, but definitely Center Boot Company, they'll get you,

695
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 3: They'll get your squared away. Cool.

696
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 6: Let's do one more yeah before the next segment. Here

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00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 6: is from mad Sean a question for the crew for

698
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 6: mid October Hunts. How do you adjust calling an approach

699
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 6: when hunting elk? He specifically says, Roosevelt elk but in

700
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 6: dense coastal forest compared to rocky Mountain environs.

701
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: Sounds like a question for old Ryan Callahan.

702
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: Boy, let's call Jason Phelps.

703
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: Boy.

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00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about Roosevelt elk. I would love

706
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: to go over there and hunt those things. They're super cool.

707
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: I do know that calling.

708
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Calling works, is just hard to hear them because the

709
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: foliage is so dense. Late or sorry, early to mid

710
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: October around here is typically when the herds are are

711
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: built up and they're bigger, and that means they are

712
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: more vocal, so you have a good chance of locating

713
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: elk because they're more talkative. And then cow calls, calcaf

714
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: calls and combo can bring in satellite and raghorn bowls

715
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: on the fringe, which most of the time when I'm

716
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: hunting elk, I'm hunting broadside elk. I don't need to

717
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: go find the big herd bull because I want to

718
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: put that sucker in my freezer and then worry about

719
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: mule deer.

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Speaker 3: I agree, can agree more.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Phil, and for those of you in the chat.

722
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: Keep them coming, Please keep them coming. We'll hit it again.

723
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Our next segment is Hot tip Off.

724
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah that's salty, Yeah that's salty.

725
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: Hot tip Off is where two listeners go head to

726
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: head with competing pieces of advice and after we hear

727
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: each tip, will declare which one is hotter. I think

728
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: we should change that to read and after we hear

729
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: both tips. If you have a hot tip, take a

730
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: one minute video on your phone and email it to

731
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Speaker 2: radio at the meeteater dot com with the subject line

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00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: hot Tipoff. This week, Hot tip Off is brought to

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00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: you by Mountain Oopsnops. Mountain Oops supports your daily journey

734
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: from mountain training to overall well being, optimizing performance, enhancing recovery,

735
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: and bolstering health, preparing you for any challenge. Today's competitors

736
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: are Chad in Coorvia from Eagle, Idaho and Nick Moroldy

737
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: from Cragsmore, New York, and they're competing for the Meat

738
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: Eater Classic Bison Hoodie. Folks in the chat, please chime

739
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: in let's see those hot tips.

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00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: Phil Nick Maroldy.

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Speaker 7: Hey guys, it is Nick coming with a hot tip,

742
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 7: so good way to start training for your season and

743
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 7: get your kids outdoors at the same time. See here,

744
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 7: I got my little guy in the chest carrier. I

745
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 7: got my little girl in the osprey backpack. This is

746
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 7: a great workout that's self progressing. So I started with

747
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 7: just the one progress to two. It's gonna have to

748
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 7: get a little creative if we have three or as

749
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 7: this one gets too big for the chess carrier. But again,

750
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 7: self progressing workout gets your kids excited to be outside,

751
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 7: and it gets you some points with the wife because

752
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 7: she's got a couple hours to not.

753
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 8: Have anybody hanging off of her. All right, I hope

754
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 8: you enjoyed. Take care, Chad in corfy up, hi.

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00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 9: Me eater wanted to spit a hot tip. I'm preparing

756
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 9: to head down to Utah for an elk hunt, and

757
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 9: in putting my kill kit together, I got my.

758
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 4: Meat hanging string.

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00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 9: This is waxed nine strand string used for a lot

760
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 9: of commercial purposes. Has a weight rating of about one

761
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 9: hundred and forty pounds. I'll hang an elk quarter off

762
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 9: one strand of that. See it's waxed, so it holds

763
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 9: its shape pretty good. Makes it easy to tie knots.

764
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 9: This twelve foot piece I just weighed is about four

765
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 9: and a half grams or point one six ounces. To

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00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 9: show you how strong it is, I have a piece

767
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 9: hanging up here and a makeshift pull apart. I weigh

768
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 9: about two hundred and thirty pounds and you can see

769
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 9: just a couple strands.

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Speaker 2: It carries it well, no problem.

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Speaker 9: So instead of pair of cord or other heavy ropes,

772
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Speaker 9: grab yourself some waxed nine strand.

773
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 3: Col h fine based off his garage there he has

774
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: some experience. Yeah that guy killed. Smell guy looks like

775
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: a killer. Yeah, he borrowed a lot of hell.

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00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 6: The poll is live in the chat. You guys are

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00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 6: picking the winners of two different contests today. I feel

778
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 6: like we're giving you too much power.

779
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I want to strip some of power from

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00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: them and appropriate it to ourselves. But yeah, get get

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00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: in there and vote. I you know, beyond honest. I

782
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: liked the joke about this being a self What did

783
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: he call? How did he describe his workout?

784
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 3: Self progressing?

785
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: Self progressing workout? It's very clever. Yeah, Plus he probably

786
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: gets to eat a lot of like cheerios and stuff

787
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: that they drop on the ground. The one worry I have, though,

788
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: is that. Whenever I see someone with baby on their

789
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: back or on their chest, I'm like, Okay, that's good.

790
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: They know if they fall they can go that way

791
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: or that way opposite the baby. Right when you got

792
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: babies on all sides, he can either go left or right. Yeah,

793
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: you gotta go left or right. And that's not good

794
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: for the old rotator cuff.

795
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: Nope, you guys doing anything too dangerous? Too dangerous, why

796
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: you won't be doing that particular training actors.

797
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: Precisely precisely, it seems like. And also I'm far behind

798
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: this man in uh in his development of his equipment.

799
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: So you guys doing any uh, doing any hiking, doing

800
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: any getting prepped for the old season.

801
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: I've been so short on time. I have been just

802
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: trying to like bust out on trail runs. I mean,

803
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: as much as possible daily, if possible. But I put

804
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: the shortened time there because I'm trying to make myself

805
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: feel as poorly as possible with the least amount of time.

806
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: Otherwise hiking would be good. I do some running a

807
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: couple times a week and then hit the weights a

808
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: couple times a week.

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00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: See you in here.

810
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: It's really it's not like a season prep. It's just

811
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: like general maintenance for my entire life. So this poll

812
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: is could not be closer. So you have not voted,

813
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: you can tip the scales, so you get in there.

814
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: They're gonna end in about thirty seconds here.

815
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Speaker 2: If there are fewer than three hundred votes out of

816
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: our audience of three hundred and fifty three, I'll be

817
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: sorely disappointed voting as you're right as an American, and

818
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: it's unconscionable that people don't participate when given the option.

819
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are the voting statistics the opportunity?

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00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I just think it's embarrassing,

821
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: like people, you know, vote three hundred and sixty one.

822
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: Come on, get in there. I'd like to see three

823
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty votes. Uh yeah, I like the guy

824
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: mentions he carries it. Well, that was one of my

825
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: I thought that guy two hundred and thirty pounds I

826
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: got stacked.

827
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 3: Looks great, I got stacked.

828
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll give this ten more seconds. I

829
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: have not been doing much preparation or training. I've been

830
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: on a real downhill slide since visiting Germany two months ago.

831
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: Just gotten a lot of bad habits in terms of

832
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: what I'm putting in my body, and I feel it

833
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: every day when I wake up.

834
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Speaker 1: I mean the Ohio trip. I didn't want to say

835
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: anything on that note.

836
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 6: I was going to ask if you wanted to go

837
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 6: a Guta lounda trip after the recording.

838
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I could be talked into that. I could

839
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: be talking. Yeah, yeah, I actually didn't. I mean, thankfully,

840
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: I didn't drink that much Ohio. I just ate a

841
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: lot of cheese.

842
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: I feel like I can't end there pole It's so close. Oh,

843
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: oh my god. Amount of cheese.

844
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: Is just a lot. You haven't even seen the VIDs yet.

845
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: And then the saltiness of the oh I feel like

846
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: it's so good. You're just entering one into your heart.

847
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: It's so good.

848
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't pride myself on like overly healthful eating.

849
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that that's tough. And Seth is the spouse

850
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: of an artist. You'll appreciate this. I found a painting

851
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: that I'd like to buy a print of, and it's

852
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: a Skyline chili parlor with a man dishing out Skyline

853
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: chili and Pete Rose is sitting there eating with him.

854
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, oh Mary Larkin Ken griffyr all the all

855
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati like classic athletes, and they're just all enjoying

856
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: join a nice three way, Phil, How are we doing

857
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: on this pole?

858
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: I got it? Okay.

859
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm describing artwork that I saw in a fast

860
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: food restaurant, so we should probably wrap it up.

861
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm hoping you'll have another Instagram reel about your time

862
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: in Ohio eating these.

863
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 7: Yeah.

864
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to figure out. I forgot how to

865
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: do voiceovers, how to do the voice change on on voiceovers?

866
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 3: So oh, just YouTube, I got.

867
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: I got a I got a real coming of our

868
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: Costco hot dog run. I got a real comedy of

869
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: my Cincinnati trip with some hot stuff.

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00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 6: With just over fifty percent of the vote, like fifty

871
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 6: and a decimal points, the winner is Chad the wax

872
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 6: string for hanging whoa.

873
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting it. In Corvi, it was back and

874
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: forth for a while. I am interested in that doesn't

875
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: always win, That's what That's why I.

876
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: End up carrying so much paracord. I've got like my

877
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: para cord to hang my food. I got my pair

878
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: cord to hang some meat. I got the paar coord

879
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: for just having paracord. You can just cut a little

880
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: bit of that out.

881
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 3: Parachord for hanging your para cord.

882
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, just cut a little bit of that out with

883
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: this wax nine strand we'll be running.

884
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 6: And Chad for winning the hot tip Off, you will

885
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 6: be receiving this wonderful Meat Eater hoodie, bice and hoodie. Look,

886
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure we'll be getting a hold of you

887
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 6: to get your size and address information.

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00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, I thank Yeah. If you would like to

889
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 3: submit a tip and win something like this wonderful Bison hoodie,

890
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: please submit your hot tips.

891
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 2: Radio at the meat Eater dot com with the subject

892
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: line hot tip off.

893
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: I thought you were actually asking me, Phil because I

894
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: don't own that sweater, and I was.

895
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: Like, well, I get I could, but I actually do

896
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: own that one. It's one of my favorites. It's thick.

897
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: Joining us on the line next is Ben Batton, Deputy

898
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: director of the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, who is

899
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: coming to us live from Bozeman, Montana, at a meeting

900
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: of the Mississippi Interstate Cooperative Resource Association. Ben, Welcome to

901
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: the show.

902
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 6: So, so Ben was in the waiting room as you

903
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 6: said his name. I think he might have picked up

904
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 6: his phone to get ready and then accidentally left. So

905
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 6: we're gonna wait here for Ben to rejoin. Oh no,

906
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's fine. I don't think it was anything

907
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 6: like a kidnapping.

908
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: He was very excited for this. He was he was

909
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: surprising if he'd abandoned us.

910
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: No, he was. I think he just accidentally left the room.

911
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: This, this is unexpected.

912
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, we just saw Yeah, I just

913
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: saw him. He was right there. Well, we couldn't do

914
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: the trail cam contest while we.

915
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't we give something? Oh hey, Ben, how

916
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: are you sir?

917
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 10: All right, guys, you're not gonna believe this. I got

918
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 10: one for you. Here is the ultimate hot tip. I

919
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 10: was sitting out for you all and two seconds before

920
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 10: I go on, I get your phone's too hot?

921
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that that always seems to hit it the

922
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 2: wrong time.

923
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 10: I'm gonna hatty, you're in Boeman and I went and

924
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 10: dumped my phone.

925
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: That's commitment, that commitment to the show. We appreciate that, Ben.

926
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 3: Ben.

927
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: Can you tell our listeners who might not be familiar

928
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: with the Mississippi Interstate Cooperative Resource Association and I can

929
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: guarantee that it's most of them. Can you explain what

930
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: the organization is and who participates.

931
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, thanks again, guys around me on, I really

932
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 10: appreciate it. So MICRA is the leadership for fishery manager

933
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 10: throughout the Mississippi River basin. And so there's thirty one

934
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Speaker 10: states in the basin. We currently have twenty eight folks

935
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Speaker 10: and this is going to be what's called the Chief

936
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Speaker 10: of Fisheries. Every state fish and Game agency has you know,

937
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 10: some number of employees, but the head is usually called

938
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Speaker 10: the chief.

939
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: So it's those folks.

940
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Speaker 10: We also have federal agencies like US Fish and Wildlife Service,

941
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Speaker 10: US Geological Survey on for Tennessee Valley Authority, folks like that.

942
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 10: And then of course all the tribes within the basin

943
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 10: are welcome. And basically, in short, the purpose of MICRA

944
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 10: is to do it we can coordinating inner jurisdictional fish species.

945
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: Gotcha, What are some of the challenges or projects that

946
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: you're currently working on as an organization?

947
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 10: All right, Well, I think what makes the Missing River

948
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 10: basin awesome is also some of the biggest challenges. I

949
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 10: mean one point two million square miles three hundred and

950
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 10: twenty million acres, you know, the Missippi River basin. Every

951
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 10: drop of water that goes from the east side of

952
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 10: the Rockies to the west side of the Appalachians ends

953
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 10: up in the Gulf. So it's just gigantic. It's the

954
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 10: fourth largest basin in the planet after the Amazon, Congo

955
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 10: and the Nile. So scale here is a challenge. Also

956
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 10: neat is that you know, a fish can swim from

957
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 10: the Gulf twelve hundred miles without ever running into anything.

958
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 10: Take a left and head up the Missouri all the

959
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 10: way to Gavin's Points South Dakota another eight hundred miles,

960
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 10: so two thousand miles a fish can swim before ever

961
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 10: hitting a dam. But that's the best case in the

962
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 10: in the in the area, I mean, there's dams and

963
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 10: things like that that you know, mess with fish passage

964
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 10: and fish being able to move. We love working on

965
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 10: on a positive native fish species, you know, big cool

966
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 10: things like cattlefish and sturgeon and things like that, catfish,

967
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 10: et cetera. But probably our biggest drain on our energy

968
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 10: is the invasive part issue that is most of the basin.

969
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: Gotcha, Now, I understand that the micro's currently working towards

970
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: being recognized by Congress. What does that recognition mean and

971
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: what does that process involve.

972
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's great. I appreciate you guys checking on. So

973
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 10: the goal of this, it's an association, so we just

974
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 10: all exist by a bunch of signatures of you know,

975
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 10: fisheries group leadership. But our goal since nineteen ninety one

976
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 10: and establishment was to become a commission and basically that

977
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 10: recognition would give us one just more stature and influence.

978
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 10: So you know, a letter to Congress or some from

979
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 10: this association doesn't carry near as much weight as it

980
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 10: does from the Mississippi River Basin Fishery Commission. And then

981
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 10: the biggest probably is funding and resource. I think you know,

982
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 10: you guys talk all the time. I don't think you

983
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 10: find anybody that's a manager across the country that would

984
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 10: say they have enough resource to you know, for the challenges.

985
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 10: And so this draft legislation that we have right now

986
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 10: asks for in years two through five of existing thirty

987
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 10: million dollars a year for the basin and then fifty

988
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 10: million on after that. So a significant amount of resource

989
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 10: that would help us out. Kind of you ask where,

990
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 10: you know, what does it take? So we currently have

991
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 10: draft bills both the House and the Senate on the

992
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 10: Senate side, it's Bill ten seventy eight with sponsors from

993
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 10: Senator Wicker and Mississippi, Boseman in Arkansas, and Baldwin and Wisconsin.

994
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 10: And then on the House side fifteen fourteen the companion

995
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 10: bill with Congressman ezelf and Mississippi and Carter of Louisiana.

996
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 10: And we're currently looking for more sponsors. So if you

997
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 10: are somebody out there that has connections there and we

998
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 10: work with coalitions, it's just something you do on these bills,

999
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 10: and so there will be groups you all are very

1000
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 10: familiar with, like BHA, Teddy Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, National Wildlife Federation,

1001
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 10: and American Sport Fish Association are all working with us

1002
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 10: to get this stick going good deal.

1003
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: And are there other interstate conservation partnerships that serve as

1004
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 2: a model for this approach and what have you learned

1005
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: from them?

1006
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 10: Yeah? Great question. So there's four existing fishery commissions. There's

1007
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 10: Gulf States, Pacific States, Atlantic States, and then the Great

1008
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 10: Lakes and those have all been around since somewhere between

1009
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 10: the late forties and the late fifties, and we visited

1010
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 10: with each of their leadership as we were doing this

1011
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 10: for kind of some Hey, what would you do differently?

1012
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 10: What worked great? That kind of thing, and so that

1013
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 10: was super helpful and we mostly patterned ours off the

1014
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 10: Great Lakes Commission and then probably the best known ination

1015
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 10: with is the Flyway Council system that manages water sure

1016
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 10: here in North America.

1017
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: Looking forward, what's what's on the horizon? Obviously you're working

1018
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: towards recognition, but but sort of what is the what's

1019
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: the discussion there about what's what's in the future for

1020
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: the for micro Yeah, we'll continue.

1021
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 10: To operate as we have for thirty four years, again

1022
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 10: coordinating and doing our best to manage you know, inner

1023
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 10: jurisdictional fisheries. Uh, but we're going to continue to go

1024
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 10: to the hill a couple of times a year DC

1025
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 10: and you know, beat the offices and try to get

1026
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 10: in there and get this bill across the lines.

1027
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: Great. Well been On a final note here, Arkansas was

1028
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: just in the news for its first bear attack in

1029
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: uh what I understand to be some twenty five years.

1030
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little bit about the facts

1031
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: of the incident and how if in any way Arkansas

1032
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: Game and Fish is responding.

1033
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, sure, so, Uh, yesterday in West central Arkansas, there

1034
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 10: was an older gentleman working on a gravel road on

1035
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 10: a tracker doing some work, and he was working with

1036
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 10: his son who was a little bit out of out

1037
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 10: of eyesight. Son comes back, finds the dad on the

1038
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 10: ground and there's a bear attacking. Able to stop that,

1039
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 10: and game fish was obviously immediately called. They're heading up

1040
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 10: and about twenty minutes later they get there and they

1041
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 10: end up dispatching the bear. You know, it was a

1042
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 10: young bear, which is really rare that it was a yearling.

1043
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 10: They did eighty to one hundred pounds, and you know,

1044
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 10: just want to emphasize it's really a rare deal and

1045
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 10: especially for to be a young bear. And of course,

1046
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 10: you know, all of our thoughts are with the family

1047
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 10: of victim and everything else, and hope that he makes

1048
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 10: a successful recovery.

1049
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, same same here. Ben, Thanks so much for taking

1050
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: the time to speak with us today and best of

1051
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: luck to you in the work of micro here.

1052
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 10: Appreciate the time. Thanks guys.

1053
00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: Yep, we'll see.

1054
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: I heard that stuff happens all the time in Arkansas

1055
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: from Clay. Yeah, cougars, bear attacks, bigfoots, panthers.

1056
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get the impression from Clay that Arkansas is

1057
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: like the wild West.

1058
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, sorry, Randall, did me to cut you off?

1059
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 4: Ye?

1060
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: Please?

1061
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 6: Feeling to appreciate before Just we have an update from

1062
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 6: our winner, Chad Uh. He referenced to Hunt that he

1063
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 6: was about to go on and this was the outcome. Nope,

1064
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 6: not that clever? Is it not working?

1065
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: To nice? Chad? You're even wearing the right stuff. Good

1066
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: for you, buddy man, that's probably why you know.

1067
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: That's exciting.

1068
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: Just why are we sitting here?

1069
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: I know, why are four?

1070
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: It's September beautiful.

1071
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: And I bet that I bet that wax nine strand

1072
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: uh handle those quarters nicely.

1073
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chad, if I were you, I'd just roll around

1074
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: on that underside of that bowl so you can take

1075
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: that smell home with you for months.

1076
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: Oh I love it. I love it.

1077
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing, Phil. That really added to the depth

1078
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: and richness of this program.

1079
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jake, Yeah, my producer reminded me about that. Thanks.

1080
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: Oh good job teamwork behind the bench there.

1081
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's now time for our trailcam photo contest,

1082
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: presented by our friends at Moultrie. Speaking of Moultrie, you

1083
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: really should check out their new Edge three. We recently

1084
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: got to learn about this latest and greatest Moultrie camera

1085
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: and it is super impressive. Plus they've got even more

1086
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: exciting cameras coming soon. For this second round, we asked

1087
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: you folks to send us your big bull elk photos

1088
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: captured from your trail cameras. We got loads of submissions

1089
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: on the met Eater website, so choosing these top four

1090
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: contenders was difficult, to say the least. There are a

1091
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: lot of fighting balls, impressive racks, and bachelor herds to

1092
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: wet your appetite for fall hunting. The winner will receive

1093
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: two Edge two First Light Spector Camo addition multi street

1094
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: cameras with ten watts what ten watt solar power pack

1095
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: bundles and a two hundred and fifty dollars gift card

1096
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: to the meat Eater store and a two hundred and

1097
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: fifty dollars gift card to First Light and a case

1098
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: Knive's Brent Reeves signature mini trapper knife.

1099
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: You got Brent Reeves in the chat today?

1100
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 2: My goodness, how many watts watts? Ten?

1101
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: Ten?

1102
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: Great Scott, Yeah, Phil was sleeping on that.

1103
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a gimme.

1104
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: I I just saw ten w and I second guessed

1105
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: myself in the moment, you know electricity. I'm like a

1106
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: medieval peasant when it comes to talking about watts and amps.

1107
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: And I.

1108
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: Do not enjoy the use of trail cameras other than

1109
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: the fun stuff like the you know, it's like it

1110
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: takes some of the mystery out of the woods. But

1111
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: at the same time, I also am jealous of not

1112
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: getting constant email update. It's of cool stuff walking around

1113
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: the woods. Yeah, it's a real conundrum.

1114
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Phil, would you show us our top contenders please?

1115
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: I'd love to. This is number one. Gosh, this is

1116
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: from at seven sixteen three oh seven? What would you

1117
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 3: title that? Phil? Well, luckily we've got a title. It's

1118
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: called Brothers. Oh, it's beautiful.

1119
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 6: I don't know if Jake, if Jake titled these ones

1120
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 6: or the people who sent them in, I would guess

1121
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 6: just Jake. I don't know if everyone has settled it.

1122
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: But it's cousin how we should have had a guest

1123
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: spot with well Kelsey Morris in here?

1124
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah this actually?

1125
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: Would you title this beautifully? She's good at that stuff.

1126
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: What do we got? What do we got?

1127
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: Number two? That's number one here? I will start a

1128
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 3: pull after we view all of the.

1129
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember, folks, you are choosing the winner that hefty,

1130
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: hefty prize.

1131
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: Package, insane price package. Okay. Number two is this from

1132
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: brockwe wad Box's great.

1133
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: Wow, that's yeah, crowny out. Yeah yeah, he's not gonna

1134
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: be like that for long better sticking fast, too many points.

1135
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: The surface of the water is really beautiful. You can

1136
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: see the reflection of some of the trees.

1137
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: There's water in that photo, all right. Number three this

1138
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: is from Heath Myers. Got butting heads actions. There's stuff

1139
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: going on in the background too. Yeah. Yeah, another Raghorn

1140
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 3: back there to the left.

1141
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: But these guys are putting on a real show.

1142
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, butting heads is kind of lazy.

1143
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: We can do better than that.

1144
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: What else we have?

1145
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 6: Well, our producer Jake said that he titled all these

1146
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 6: so good. Good job Jake, Jake, you yeah, do better.

1147
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 6: Let's see all right, So that's the old tangled up

1148
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 6: Number four, Winter Wonder I cut off to the borders,

1149
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 6: cutting these titles off.

1150
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 3: That's that's on me. Winter. This is from Cage Rosen.

1151
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: That's a that's a or KD. Rosen. I don't know.

1152
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: A stark image.

1153
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: That's a good looking bull silhouetted nicely.

1154
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm going to start this poll and then I

1155
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 6: will go through all of the photos again. You guys

1156
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 6: talk about them while I type up this pole here.

1157
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: Oh to me, there's a clear winner. Yes, yeah, same really, yeah,

1158
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: for sure.

1159
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: Say it at the same time two the brothers. There's disagreement. Yeah,

1160
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: I'd call it before the Rain my title Before the Rain.

1161
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: Waiting out there in that pond late Bogs Brothers is

1162
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: really I mean, if I took that photo with a

1163
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: handheld camera, I'd show everybody it's beautiful.

1164
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: Plus yeah, the back it is beautiful. Yeah. All right,

1165
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 3: I'm starting the poll and we'll go through the pictures again.

1166
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: But there's something haunting about that last image.

1167
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: I do like the last one, Like look at the backdrop. Yeah,

1168
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: the fact that you're not staring at a big muddy

1169
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: water hole.

1170
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: You can see this nice because you can.

1171
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: Get wild animals like looking wild on this.

1172
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. The gate of these bulls too.

1173
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, can't get wild animals looking wild in a pond. No,

1174
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: they're just you know, it's like.

1175
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 6: Looks like there should be some Sam comments that he

1176
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 6: votes for in korvia The Big The Big in Korva,

1177
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 6: the big one.

1178
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chad, we kind of we kind of popped this

1179
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: balloon already with a big dead bull.

1180
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Phil, let me get through.

1181
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: Let me get number two again, right, So.

1182
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: That's number one, so I can wade bogs. Number two.

1183
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: That's the one in the water here.

1184
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah.

1185
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 3: And then we've got number three butting heads. And that's

1186
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: a pretty picture.

1187
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: That's just fun. That's just darn fun. October twentieth.

1188
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: It's where the kids hang out right there.

1189
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then Winter Wonder number four. It's good looking.

1190
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's an amazing al It is nine degrees.

1191
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: Twenty nine oh yeah, yeah, twenty nine fahrenheit. I was

1192
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: like you, Celsius.

1193
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 3: The only thing that I just noticed about number two

1194
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: the one that I voted for, and is uh is

1195
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: it a trail camp photo. We've got the quality photo. Yeah,

1196
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: I can't see the bottom out the border. I don't

1197
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: think the original photo had any timestamps.

1198
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: Seth, you can't accuse one of our contestants of.

1199
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: Sure you can't. I like number one, Okay, Cow's vote

1200
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: is for Brothers. Number one. That says adventure.

1201
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: But what's really important is what the audience thinks is

1202
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,479
Speaker 2: number is the winner.

1203
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what us.

1204
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: Remember, you guys need to get in that in that poll.

1205
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 6: Only I can see the results right now we've got

1206
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 6: I don't I don't think this is going to swing.

1207
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 6: We've got a pretty clear winner. But I'll let this

1208
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 6: run for another minute. If you guys want to get

1209
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 6: some last minute votes in.

1210
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 3: Here, yeah, yeah, no, I feel like Randal, do you

1211
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: have a preference?

1212
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: Well, I just think number one is very tough to

1213
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: If those bulls were a little more impressive, it would

1214
01:04:58,840 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: just do it for me.

1215
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: Well, this is the last thing I'm gonna say. None

1216
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: of these animals are guaranteed to be there when you

1217
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: show up, right, So number one is like, man, could

1218
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: be anywhere, look at this country, but I know they're

1219
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: here somewhere. And then if we go to number two,

1220
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be stuck staring at this mud hole

1221
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: all day.

1222
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can just go there and get them, Yeah,

1223
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 3: there and get them. I like getting them.

1224
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this just uh speaks to my heart, I think.

1225
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 6: But got several people in the chat saying that number

1226
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 6: one looks fake, and I don't know if it's just

1227
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 6: the stream you guys are seeing, but this looks like

1228
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 6: a pretty legitimate trail camp picture.

1229
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 4: To me.

1230
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 3: It does look legit.

1231
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: That's just what Montana looks like everywhere or wherever.

1232
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 6: This is all right, I'm putting an end of the

1233
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 6: poll because one like one of these photos ran away

1234
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 6: with it.

1235
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh, let's do the CNN is now calling.

1236
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, we're prepared to call Markopa County. The

1237
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 6: results are in the voting and the winner with forty

1238
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 6: percent of.

1239
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: The almost half of the vote.

1240
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, clear winner number one. Brother.

1241
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: I hope we didn't taint. I hope we didn't taint

1242
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: the vote.

1243
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 3: Sold it was to take Yeah, I think is encouraged.

1244
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: Right, Well, congratulations to at seven one six underscore three

1245
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: oh seven. So it probably is a while.

1246
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: And just so everybody else, anything discussed on this podcast

1247
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: is our right to make it a T shirt, So

1248
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: tainting is encouraged as Yeah, that's ours be encouraged.

1249
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 3: Taint is on a T shirt is encouraged.

1250
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, well, well gang, uh you know, congratulations to

1251
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: seven one six, three oh seven. You've got a heck

1252
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: of a prize package coming your way. Please say thanks

1253
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: to the audience if you if you find yourself in

1254
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: the chat in the future, because well, you're you've got

1255
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: some trail cams, you've got some gift cards, you've got

1256
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 2: a Brent Reeves signature knife headed your way, and I

1257
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: just closed out my script accidents.

1258
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: We got listener feedback, I got left.

1259
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been missing some of the some of the

1260
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 6: chat for the last few minutes that I've been running

1261
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 6: other stuff.

1262
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 2: You've been busy today, Phil, I hope you're doing all right.

1263
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 6: Let's start with just a fun recreational one may ask

1264
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 6: what's the crew's favorite non game or non target animal

1265
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 6: to just watch observe while hunting.

1266
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: Gray squirrels. Oh, they do weird stuff. Sometimes it's kind

1267
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: of fun to watch easily.

1268
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Distracted and happily distracted bugs, horn toads, birds, doesn't matter.

1269
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna we're gonna call this a non target animal

1270
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: rather than non game animal. I'm gonna say a bear

1271
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: watching bears do stuff. Yeah, it's have The fun of

1272
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: bear hunting is just watching little bears fall off things,

1273
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: tip things, over do things for no reason at all.

1274
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: We had a crew of Swainson's hawks migrating through and

1275
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they're very social, so kind of curious

1276
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: I think they took note of the fact that I

1277
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: was aggressively observing their behavior. Sure, this is very urban,

1278
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, greater fringe bos Angelus region here. And they

1279
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: came down a ripped part of squirrel on top of

1280
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: the fence. Oh yeah, I mean like twenty yard viewing.

1281
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. Wow, got the stabilized binos out and

1282
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: it was great. It was eating right there with them,

1283
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: three of them, really really really awesome. Merlin app had

1284
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: was great, super fun.

1285
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 6: Isaac is stoked about bo seasons starting in Missouri in

1286
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 6: eleven days. Any sort of last minute rituals or things

1287
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 6: you guys do in the last days before going into season.

1288
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: Get all of the stuff done at home that is

1289
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: expected of you to get.

1290
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: Done eleven days before. Usually start shooting my bow about

1291
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: that time. Now I'm kidding, Hope you're shooting for a

1292
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 3: long time.

1293
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: You've got You've got a good week and a half

1294
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: to get your affairs in order so that you don't

1295
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: get a phone call saying that you know you need

1296
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: to come home to do this. Do that, you know,

1297
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: get you to find yourself in the good graces of

1298
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: your family unit and look forward to the season.

1299
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, in Missouri.

1300
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: You're probably starting your permethrone treatment right now, which I

1301
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: think would be a crucial step to your game.

1302
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 6: This is from j He says, as we are closing

1303
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 6: in on many hunting seasons. If one makes a bad

1304
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 6: shot on large game and it takes longer than ideal

1305
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 6: to find said game, how do you determine what meat

1306
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 6: needs to be cut out or lost when you finally harvest?

1307
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 3: Smell stank, smell test it.

1308
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's portions that can smell, and if those

1309
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: portions smell strong enough, remove them from the rest of

1310
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: the of the situation so the smell of that stuff

1311
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: doesn't contaminate you're you're sniffer because there there's typically is

1312
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: not all bad, and you need to salvage every edible

1313
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Speaker 1: thing that you can.

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Speaker 6: This is one that I don't think we've gotten before.

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01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 6: But favorite wild game meet pizza topic. Russell says. His

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01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 6: is duck bacon and goossolami. Wow, he guys put a

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01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 6: game on pizza. Yeah, just sa sausage.

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01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't do a whole lot of homemade pizzas,

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01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't know elk nachos. It's almost pizza.

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01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: Joe asked cal scent cover yay or nay. Walk into

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: the wind. If you're stuck in a tree, like my

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01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: friend Mark Kenyon, just face into the wind.

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: We used to mess around with all that stuff and

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: it just is just more complicates life.

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01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 2: We should we should make a T shirt of Mark

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01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: in a tree and just his help. I'm stuck in

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 2: a tree. I'm Markon the host.

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 3: Of David asked Randall Pete rose Gay your name.

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01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a slime ball, but he's our

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01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: slime ball.

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, Clifford, how does the crew store their food in

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01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 6: Black Bear Mountain? Lyon Country lives in Arizona, so Brown

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01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 6: Bear isn't an issue? Do you suggest putting food in

1335
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 6: the bag away from camp? I think the the general

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01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 6: thing to do is to hang it, right.

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, hanging will just it's just going to solve issues.

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01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: Because if you leave, let's say you have a like

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: a dry bag or a stuff sack that you put

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01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: all your all your food in once you get to camp,

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: so you're organized and you're not packing around all your

1342
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 1: food and you're in your hunting bag every day. A

1343
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: squirrel is going to chew through that thing on the ground,

1344
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: and then you got a mess to clean up, and

1345
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: you lose stuff, and then you're in that situation of like, well,

1346
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: now I got to eat something that it's world half

1347
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: chewed on and hana virus and all that fun stuff.

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01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: So you hang your food, even if you're not worried.

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01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 1: It's just going to prevent other things from happening. And

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01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: as I like to say, I'm totally fine if a

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: bear kills me. That's but I don't I'm not fine

1352
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: if in the article it says.

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: Didn't hang his food. Yep, and then I get lumped

1354
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 3: in like somebody who didn't know what was going on

1355
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 3: in the woods.

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01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: Yep. It's just a wherever you can prevent a headache,

1357
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: like having something chewed through your backpack or whatever else,

1358
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: like prevent those headaches because something else is going to

1359
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: go wrong inevitably.

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01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, self, I wouldn't worry about mountain lions. What do

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: you got, Phil? What do you got?

1362
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: Phil?

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01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 3: Here we go?

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 6: I feel a roll now, Yeah, real quick one for me.

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 6: We get this question a lot videos on Spotify. We

1366
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 6: have no plans is not going to happen anytime soon,

1367
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 6: specifically just because of other agreements we've made for getting

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01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:00,879
Speaker 6: on Spotify.

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01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 3: You can't.

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01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 6: It's very It's it's a pretty slick interface, cutting edge.

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 6: So when you just start, the audio of the video

1372
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 6: just plays automatically and you can choose to turn that

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 6: on or off. Uh, Christopher catw what do you carry

1374
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 6: in the field for your doggy first aid kit? And

1375
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 6: where do you find any non typical items that you

1376
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 6: pack up?

1377
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: But you know, feed stores or your Murdochs or what

1378
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 1: are they like the firm?

1379
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 3: What is a.

1380
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: Mountain supply Rocky mountain supply. Feed stores always have a

1381
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: really awesome what is the tractor want.

1382
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 3: Tractor supply supply?

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01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: Uh, that's hard place the tractor supplies.

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01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anyway, they always have a good vet section.

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01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: It's typically around like livestock, but.

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01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: Hot tip for you.

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01:13:54,920 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: Uh, you can go get doggy supplies there for uh boy,

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01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: like a fifth of what they're going to charge you

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01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: at the vet.

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01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: So that's where I go. And I always have emt gel,

1392
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: which is like a liquid suture that can get you

1393
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: through some tough time.

1394
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: Gauze.

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01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: I find a good tape that will stick to fur

1396
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: for holding gauze in place, or you know like.

1397
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: Get these big coband stuff.

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01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get this like zipper, like ninety degree tears

1399
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: in in dog hide from running into fence or corrugated

1400
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: metal when they're going nuts after roosters and stuff in

1401
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: that in that thick cover, and so you need something

1402
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna hold that flap down. And then I use

1403
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: just good old fashioned iodine. Beta dye works well too,

1404
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: and I just carry you like a small container that

1405
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: this sounds like a lot of stuff, but it's really not.

1406
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: You can pack it down nice and tight, and then

1407
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: pseudo fat, pseudo fed is good. Not it's an anti histamine,

1408
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: but it is something just like it makes us drowsy.

1409
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: It can put a little chill into the dog when

1410
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: you need it to get relaxed, like if you are

1411
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: in a rattlesnake bite scenario, because you're not gonna suck

1412
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: the venomount like in an old John Ford film. Eye wash,

1413
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of eye wash, just you know, you're

1414
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: over the counter stuff that folks with the bad eyesight

1415
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: used to flush their eyeballs out. That's like part of

1416
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: our routine to keep dog's eyes looking good because they

1417
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: pack a lot of seeds in there during hunting season,

1418
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: especially when it's hot and dry, which unfortunately it often

1419
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: is during bird season these days. So that little kit

1420
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: right there will definitely get you through the hard times,

1421
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: and you'll be able to package up your best buddy

1422
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: and get them someplace pro or get them into a

1423
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: good enough situation where they can keep hunting or walk

1424
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: themselves out.

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 3: That's about really what you need. Hm. Great.

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01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 6: I've got a couple questions about the new Wisconsin Meat

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 6: Eater store. I don't think there's a specific opening date yet,

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01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 6: but I think one update is that I think we're

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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 6: still hiring.

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01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, if you're in the area, I.

1431
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: Believe we're still hiring.

1432
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 3: Check out and isn't There's gonna be.

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01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 2: A little opening celebration coordinating with our Tailgate tour stop

1434
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 2: in Madison, well Chester, Floyd and Spencer Newharth nice. So

1435
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: take a look at the Tailgate Tour schedule and I

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01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: think the event page for that we'll have some mention

1437
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: of the event in Brookfield.

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01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: I would I'd love to make it over there myself.

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01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: He is a younger fella. I used to area. I

1440
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: had several good times in Milwaukee. Nice people, good food,

1441
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: lots of good the best.

1442
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do one more. You guys have had some

1443
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 3: great questions this week. Thanks.

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01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 6: I really appreciate it makes my job easier. But the

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01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 6: most important one for last Randall Top three zoos. This

1446
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 6: is from Jackson.

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01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I feel like this episode got way to Randall centric.

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01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 3: You are the host. Yeah, yeah, live it up, drink

1449
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: it in. Well, let's see you were just that one.

1450
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just at the Cincinnati Zoo. It's a

1451
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:37,560
Speaker 2: world class, phenomenal institution. The gorilla world is above and

1452
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 2: beyond what I want when I go to look at primates,

1453
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: specifically great apes. Probably my most favorite zoo visit in

1454
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 2: recent memory was the shoon Gotten Zoo in Vienna, Austria.

1455
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 2: If you've never been to a zoo in a foreign country,

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01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: I highly recommend it because you'll read things in a

1457
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: foreign language, and all of a sudden, it feels a

1458
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: lot more sophisticated than when you're just in you know,

1459
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: some suburban neighborhood, drink a beer and looking at a tiger. Finally,

1460
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: Gosh had some good visits to the San Francisco Zoo.

1461
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's if it's like strongly in

1462
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: my top three, but I've had some great visits there. Again,

1463
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: some really world class ape encounters, and it's just been

1464
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 2: there for me when I needed it at a few

1465
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 2: key points in my life. So I leave it at that.

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01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: Fantastic Thanks Jackson, your interest in zoological gardens is much appreciated.

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01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 3: Well gang.

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01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of today's show. It

1469
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: was another fun one. Thanks to Mark and Ben for

1470
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: joining us. And with that, we'll see you here next week.

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, I got one more thing for the audience.

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 3: If you're gonna be in the Manhattan area or.

1473
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,879
Speaker 2: Ideally if you live there Montana.

1474
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh not Montana, the New York City, Manhattan, I am

1475
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: participating in a conservation event at the end of the

1476
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: month at the Patagonia Store with Conservation Lands Foundation. And

1477
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: my god, I just got to looking at the prices

1478
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: of hotel rooms. If you need somebody to crash on

1479
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: your couch, hou'll sit.

1480
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 2: He'll tell you some stories. Yeah, and he actually does

1481
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: a great job cleaning up after himself. My barn has

1482
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: never looked better since Cal's been on a little trailer

1483
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: working tear. So yeah, there you go, delightful guest. All right, folks,

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01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: we'll see you next week. Thanks for tuning in.