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Speaker 1: Time to get back to work. Welcome burg Gang. On

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Speaker 1: today's show, Zach Gershman joins me. After a few days off,

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Speaker 1: coaches and players and ourselves all back on the practice field.

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Speaker 1: At least we were watching, and it was good to

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Speaker 1: see several players who we haven't seen participates in practice.

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Speaker 1: Also news on James Connor and Trey McBride, plus why

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals will have a say and who earns the

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Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC at Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: Episode seven to eight, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Bud to Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five.

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Speaker 4: He's it again so far Harry Magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolut.

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Speaker 1: With apologies to Bill Belichick. We do take days off

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Speaker 1: during the season here on Cardinals Cover two, persented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. But we are back

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Speaker 1: here on what is called referred to as a bonus

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Speaker 1: Monday in the work week. But yeah, we took some

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Speaker 1: time off. I think it was deserved. The head coach

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Speaker 1: said it was a much needed break. He was talking

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Speaker 1: about himself, the coaches, and the players. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he cared much about you or Isaac, but I personally

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Speaker 1: needed some time off.

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Speaker 4: When JG said that, I felt like he was talking

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Speaker 4: to me though, So I'm like, you know what, if

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Speaker 4: I have the head coach's approval, I'll take it.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it.

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Speaker 4: But I think overall, even though there were days off,

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Speaker 4: there still are no days off. I mean, you're telling

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Speaker 4: me you didn't look at Twitter. You're telling me that

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Speaker 4: you didn't say anything else. Like our lives are twenty

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Speaker 4: four to seven with this gig.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is very difficult to disconnect. I watched Sunday

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Speaker 1: and yes, Tony was offside. Well that's besides the point

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Speaker 1: doesn't affect the Arizona Cardinals. But yeah, you pay attention,

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Speaker 1: and yeah I paid attention what the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: did to the Seahawks, which we'll get into a little

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Speaker 1: bit later on. It's just nice and considering again, this

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Speaker 1: is first world problems here. It has been NonStop since

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Speaker 1: Labor Day. That was the last time that anyone here

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Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals, whether you were on the field

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Speaker 1: to where you didn't have to worry about anything a

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Speaker 4: First time since nineteen ninety one that the Cardinals had

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Speaker 4: and it was since we were since we ventured off

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Speaker 4: was NonStop. But I mean we mentioned some of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, any wonders why he was ejected? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Some of the questions that were posed from certain players

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Speaker 4: Kadarius Tony was offsides to go into expecting that oh

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Speaker 4: when it's that offsides, especially from the all twenty two angle,

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Speaker 4: you don't you can't blame the referees at that point.

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Speaker 1: No, And it was one of those plays. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: But if you think about what Patrick Mahomes and his

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Speaker 1: Mistakes are going to be made. We're all human. It's

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Speaker 1: And it does seem Zach that the time away and

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Speaker 1: And for a number of those players on the football field,

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Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, as I mentioned on the practice field on Monday,

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Speaker 4: And for thank you Craig for the explanation. I'm not

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Speaker 4: But you brought that. You broke that down like it

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the fact that Hollywood Brown back to back

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Speaker 1: That's true, are you helping yourself versus hindering everyone else?

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Speaker 1: As Gannon likes to say, it takes all eleven and

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Speaker 1: hurting everyone else. But you brought up Starling Thomas and

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Speaker 1: And then Trey McBride who addressed the media post practice

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Speaker 1: You forget. This is year two and he's only going

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Speaker 4: to where they are now, it's incredible. It truly is

434
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Speaker 4: incredible to see. And Trey McBride's one of those players

435
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Speaker 4: that does have a chip on his shoulder. Even though

436
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Speaker 4: he won the MAKI and even though he was one

437
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Speaker 4: of the best tight ends in college football, the fact

438
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Speaker 4: that he came into this system, spent a year learning

439
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Speaker 4: under zach Ertz, learning alongside zach Ertz, and to produce

440
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Speaker 4: these type of numbers. It's been it's been quite it's

441
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 4: been quite a story to see, and I think out

442
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 4: of this entire season, there have been tons of different storylines,

443
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 4: both positive and negative. The injury bug has certainly hurt

444
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals. They've also benefited because Diamonds have come through

445
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 4: the rough a little bit. You start to see a

446
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 4: Dante Stills on the defensive line due to all the

447
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 4: different injuries that that unit's face, Trey mcbrid stepping in

448
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Speaker 4: for zach Ertz. So there's been a lot of players

449
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Speaker 4: that have stepped up and have stepped in and they've

450
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Speaker 4: been able to produce, and you know, you could see

451
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Speaker 4: the progression through the upcoming offseason.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals will see a pretty good tight end on Sunday

453
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Speaker 1: when the forty nine Ers visit State Farm Stadium. Two

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Speaker 1: oh five is the kickoff nine thirty am. Pregame coverage

455
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Speaker 1: begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. George Kittle and Company.

456
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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers ten and three. They beat the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks twenty eight to sixteen. Full disclosure, I didn't see

458
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Speaker 1: a lot of this game on Sunday, saw some of

459
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Speaker 1: the highlights, but just reading through some of the recaps.

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Speaker 1: The numbers are phenomenal. Eight plays of twenty five or

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Speaker 1: more yards by an offense that totaled five hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty seven yards under brock Party. But defensively, there were

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Speaker 1: times when the Seahawks did stop the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: In fact, those eight plays of twenty five or more

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Speaker 1: yards totaled two hundred and eighty so more than half

466
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Speaker 1: of your overall total came on just eight plays. So

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Speaker 1: it wasn't just the forty nine ERDs rolling through and

468
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Speaker 1: over the Seahawks. It was more of a big play

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Speaker 1: offense that finally overwhelmed Seattle.

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Speaker 4: But that's the NFC West style of play. You're gonna

471
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Speaker 4: have some of those explosive plays, but it's it's a

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Speaker 4: hard nose, back and forth style that you get to

473
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Speaker 4: see all throughout the division. No matter what the rankings are.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the forty nine Ers are are top the

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Speaker 4: NFC West and the Cardinals are not. But to see

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Speaker 4: this upcoming matchup, who's to say.

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Speaker 3: Because it was.

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Speaker 4: A pretty close game for the first three quarters when

479
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: they played in San Francisco earlier on in the season.

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Speaker 4: There's still a lot on the line for these players.

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Speaker 4: And when I asked Trey McBride earlier on Monday, do

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Speaker 4: you guys as a team and as an offense feel

483
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Speaker 4: like you have something to improved, especially with these games,

484
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Speaker 4: and he said, yeah, because these are the ones that

485
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Speaker 4: matter the most. These are the you see the most often.

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Speaker 4: So the numbers don't surprise me, especially with the exposive

487
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: play battle with forty nine ers, you know, destroying the

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Speaker 4: Seahawks and that category. But in this game, Jonathan Gannon

489
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Speaker 4: preaches trying to limit the exposive plays. There weren't as many,

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Speaker 4: despite the fact that Christian McCaffrey was an animal when

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Speaker 4: they played in San Francisco. But the exposive plays the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals are, they're gonna have to limit them.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you want to share with the Bird

494
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Speaker 1: Gang that you also asked that same question to McBride

495
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Speaker 1: about division play too head coach Jonathan Gannon, and I

496
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Speaker 1: don't want to say he dismissed the question, but he

497
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Speaker 1: just typical sometimes he just like, yeah, every game is

498
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Speaker 1: the same, and I'm not looking at that anymore than

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Speaker 1: any other game. But to your point, this Cardinals team

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Speaker 1: is winless within the division, and they do matter more

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Speaker 1: than any other.

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Speaker 3: Game, they definitely do.

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Speaker 4: And when I did ask that question of JG, he

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Speaker 4: kind of went on the term proving something, and that's

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Speaker 4: kind of the term he had. I don't want say

506
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Speaker 4: he had a problem with, but the one that he

507
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Speaker 4: kind of shut down in that sunse it's because anytime

508
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: you step in between those white Lions, you're there to

509
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: win a football game. So you're always there to prove something,

510
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: so it's not a matter of it being against an

511
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Speaker 4: NFC West opponent. I did ask JG that question in

512
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Speaker 4: the beginning of the season when they first went out

513
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Speaker 4: to go play San Francisco asked him a very similar question,

514
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Speaker 4: and he also said it was a little bit more

515
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Speaker 4: shorter back then when he just said, no, it doesn't matter.

516
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Speaker 4: But in this case, you do have something to prove

517
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Speaker 4: because you have faced each of these teams at least once.

518
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 4: Los Angeles you faced twice. You got to show that

519
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 4: you are a team that you can't just look over.

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00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: Anytime you play a divisional opponent, you gotta be able

521
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Speaker 4: to give it your all because at least in the standings,

522
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Speaker 4: a three to ten record right now for the Cardinals

523
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 4: might not be good, but if you start to get.

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Speaker 4: Let's say you win one of the two or you

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Speaker 4: win both games against the forty nine Ers and the Seahawks,

526
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Speaker 4: which would be absolutely incredible for just the morale and

527
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Speaker 4: the momentum. It looks a lot different in the standings

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Speaker 4: in that case.

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Speaker 1: And remember the first meeting in Week four, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: win in the fourth quarter only trailing by five. It

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Speaker 1: was twenty one to sixteen. Now the forty nine Ers

532
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: scored early in that quarter to go up twelve, but

533
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Speaker 1: still that's two scores. And then the game got away

534
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: because brock Party had a one yard touchdowner and to

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Speaker 1: make it thirty five sixteen. That was an almost seven

536
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Speaker 1: and a half minute drive and the Cardinals had no

537
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: shot after that. There was under two minutes to go

538
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: and you couldn't overcome that. But the Cardinals did, with

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00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs as quarterback, play the forty nine Ers well

540
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Speaker 1: in that first meeting. It's gonna be interesting to see

541
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Speaker 1: now with Kyler Murray as your quarterback, what this team

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Speaker 1: does against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: And the makeup of this offense as a whole is

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Speaker 4: entirely different, because now you do have a solidified target.

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Speaker 4: I remember zach Ertz dropped the pass in that game

546
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Speaker 4: against the forty nine ers that hurt them. He was

547
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Speaker 4: in the back at the end zone, I believe, and

548
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: he dropped the pass. Now you got Trey McBride back there,

549
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: that's a different player. You got Kyler Murray back there

550
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: instead of Josh Dobbs. So there are a lot of

551
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Speaker 4: different pieces, and the familiarity is a lot is a

552
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Speaker 4: lot more there Josh Dobbs. That was his fourth game

553
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 4: with the Cardinals and for this one, this is gonna

554
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: be Kyler's fifth game now with the Cardinals. So the

555
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: fact that he's going in he has more experience going

556
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 4: against the forty nineers, and he spent the entire offseason

557
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 4: and majority of the season learning the book and learning

558
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: the playbook. He's going to go into this and Kay

559
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 4: One's not had a great record against the NFC West.

560
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: He's five and fifteen, five and sixteen if you include

561
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Speaker 4: that playoff loss to the Rams. So he wants to

562
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: go into this and that's something I plan on asking

563
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: him a little bit, So hopefully nobody steals the question,

564
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: because I think that it's gonna be very important to

565
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: see if he does view these NFC West opponents any differently,

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Speaker 4: kind of see if he'll be as dismissive or not

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00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: dismissive at all compared to JG's response.

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Speaker 1: By the way, defensively, the Cardinals are gonna have to

569
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Speaker 1: find a way to slow down Christian McCaffrey. He had

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five rushing yards against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: He had one hundred and seventy seven total yards and

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns against the Cardinals in Week four, and that

573
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Speaker 1: was something that really bothered head coach John again in

574
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Speaker 1: about not only post game, but in the days afterwards,

575
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Speaker 1: because cannot let one guy, your best player beat you.

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Speaker 1: Now the forty nine ers have a number of best players,

577
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Speaker 1: but one individual beat you like that does not sit

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Speaker 1: well with the defensive minded head coach Greg.

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Speaker 4: It's only four more touchdowns than you and I have. True,

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Christian McCaffrey is an animal, as I

581
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: previously mentioned, and the fact that he's going into this

582
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Speaker 4: and they do want to solidify that number one seed

583
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: in and the NFC, they want to get that first

584
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: round by with the win, they cuinch the NFC West

585
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: against the Cardinals, So they have a lot to still

586
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: play for not that I don't think that they're in

587
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: any jeopardy of not quinching the NFC West regardless of

588
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: the outcome of this game. But you cannot let your

589
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: best player beat you. And while you did limit Deebo

590
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: Samuel and you did limit George Kittle, you still let

591
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Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey go off in the way that he did.

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Speaker 4: So it's not a matter of stopping one person, it's

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Speaker 4: a matter of limiting all of them and hopefully stopping

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Speaker 4: all or at least making more difficult than at times

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00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: it was not in that first meeting. Yeah, brock Party

596
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: looked like any player that you would put in the

597
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, Like there's type of career stat line.

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00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: That's the type of performance that brock Party had in

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00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: that one, especially through the first three, first four quarters.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he had one incompletion going into the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter. So the fact that that was the type

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Speaker 4: of outing that he did have, it's remarkable. You gotta

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00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: try to get pressure to the quarterback twenty of twenty

604
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: one Party finished, so it's final going into the fourth quarter.

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00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: Still he did have that one in completion, But the

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00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: fact that he finished with just that one.

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Speaker 1: Who By the way, you bring up the number one

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00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: seed in the NFC, and I was looking at what

609
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: the teams because there are three ten and three teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFC forty nine Ers, Cowboys, and Eagles, Cardinals

611
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: will have a large say and who wins the NFC

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Speaker 1: because the Cardinals hosts the forty nine ers, they play

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Speaker 1: at Philadelphia. They already beat the Cowboys. M hm.

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Speaker 4: So you imagine if they those three teams, like just

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00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: just picture it. I mean the fact that the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: that there were a team that people went into the

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Speaker 4: season saying they won't even win a game, it's tanking season,

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Speaker 4: whatever it is. They put that all under the all

619
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Speaker 4: water under the bridge really early on in the season

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Speaker 4: with just their fight and their competitiveness and regardless if

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Speaker 4: it is against the Cowboys, their performance there tiebreakers, whatever

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Speaker 4: it might be. The Cardinals, as you said, Craig, they

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Speaker 4: do have a unique say in this one.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers have at the Cardinals home to the Ravens,

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00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: at the Commanders home to the Rams, the Cowboys at

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Speaker 1: the Bills, at the Dolphins home to the Lions, at

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00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: the Commanders, Eagles at the Seahawks home to the Giants,

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Speaker 1: home to the Cardinals and then at the Giants. Commanders

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Speaker 1: are the only other team that will play these two

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Speaker 1: of these three teams forty nine Ers, Cowboys, and Eagles

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Speaker 1: over these final four games. But the Cowboys are one

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Speaker 1: to zero against the Commanders and the Eagles swept the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: So it's only the Cardinals that really can say, with

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Speaker 1: a win over the forty nine Ers, a win over

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, your top three seeds in the NFC. Cardinals

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00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: have checked the box against the Cowboys. Can they do

637
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: it at home against the forty nine Ers and the

638
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: tough one on the road at Philadelphia on New Year's

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Speaker 1: Eve Day.

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Speaker 4: I saw a tweet earlier today that was like since

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00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: the Cowboys or since like the Chiefs beat the Bills

642
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: and the Eagles beat the because it was like a

643
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 4: hole because the Bills beat the Chiefs, and the Eagles

644
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: beat the Bills, and the Cowboys beat the Eagles, and

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: the Cardinals beat the Cowboys. The Cardinals are like your

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00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: Super Bowl champions or whatever. I'm like, all right, let's

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00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: get the parade going already. I like that logic because

648
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 4: we've all done that before. Like you want to if

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Speaker 4: you get knocked out of a playoff or whatever. Well,

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Speaker 4: my feeling is whichever team knocks you out, you want

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Speaker 4: that team to do well because then you can say, well,

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Speaker 4: we lost to the eventual champion or whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: There are some people that don't believe that. They just

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Speaker 4: if you beat me, then I want you to lose,

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Speaker 4: whether it is the next round or at some point.

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Speaker 4: They don't want that team to hoist the trophy at

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Speaker 4: the end of whatever competition it is. If anything, it

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Speaker 4: made for a good tweet because I saw that and

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Speaker 4: was like, huh, would you look at them?

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Speaker 1: Apples connect the dots. I like to do that. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: beat the forty nine ers, beat the Eagles, and they'd

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Speaker 1: be three and oh against your top three seeds in

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Speaker 1: the NFC. So the Cardinals are the best team in

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Speaker 1: the NFC. Basically what we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Right, standings don't really matter at that point.

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Speaker 1: No, you just talk about the standings in the last

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Speaker 1: four games.

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Speaker 3: Say no more.

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Speaker 1: I'm game.

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Speaker 3: I'll propose it to Roger.

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Speaker 1: You are on a commissioner Goodell on first name basis

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Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, something like that.

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Speaker 4: Uh, at least I'm on first name basically with him.

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Speaker 4: If he's on any name basis with me, either that's

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Speaker 4: great or we have a major problem.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. By the way, Bird Gang Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl voting is underway and it runs through December twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: Go to Pro Bowl dot Com forward slash vote, that

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Speaker 1: is Pro Bowl dot Com forward slash votes. My guess is,

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Speaker 1: let's see James connor. I think he is deserving Trey McBride,

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Speaker 1: deserving Paris Johnson Junior as a rookie.

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Speaker 4: He's putting up a good he's putting up a good

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Speaker 4: campaign for that.

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Speaker 3: I also saw that on social media.

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Speaker 1: Defensively, Jalen Thompson leads a team in interceptions. Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: obviously is mister consistent. Matt Prater, that's the one doubt

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Speaker 1: he should be a lot. That to me is if

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, despite their record, and it's difficult when you're

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Speaker 1: not winning to get a Pro Bowl player, But if

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals do have one player in mind or that

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Speaker 1: has an opportunity to be a representative in the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: my guess is it will be Matt Prater's seven field

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Speaker 1: goals of fifty or more yards. He is basically automatic

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Speaker 1: when he gets down that football field and it's just

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Speaker 1: the leg and the legs strength at this age in

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Speaker 1: his career. As far as the longevity, I would love

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Speaker 1: to see Matt Prater, if it's not voted in maybe

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Speaker 1: the first or second alternate, to get that invite.

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Speaker 3: He should get that invite.

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Speaker 4: I mean, seventeen years in the league and to still

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Speaker 4: produce at this high of a level. Like I was

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Speaker 4: watching the Sunday night football broadcast and the way that

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Speaker 4: they were talking about the Cowboys kicker Aubrey, it looked

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Speaker 4: like a young Matt Prater, just the fact that he

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Speaker 4: was able to boot from as long as he was

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Speaker 4: for the fifty nine and the sixty yard field goal

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Speaker 4: that he had. But for for Matt Prater, that's been

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Speaker 4: that's been his entire career. That's how he's made his living.

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Speaker 4: That's how he's made a name for himself because he's

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Speaker 4: been able to produce those type of kicks. So, whether

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Speaker 4: it is Matt Prater or it is a trade McBride,

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Speaker 4: even because McBride's put up.

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Speaker 3: Really good numbers.

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Speaker 4: As we've spoken about here on Cover two, the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: do have a lot of different options. I recognize that

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Speaker 4: all throughout the league, teams are putting it. They're trying

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Speaker 4: to put their best players in. You know, some of

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Speaker 4: these teams are going to be impacted based off of

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Speaker 4: how far they go into the playoffs and potentially whichever

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Speaker 4: team lands in the Super Bowl. But the Cardinals do

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Speaker 4: have a couple options. You just got to hope that

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Speaker 4: they could get more than one in. That'd be pretty neat.

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Speaker 1: Bird Gang make your voice heard. Pro Bowl dot Com

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Speaker 1: Forward slash Votes, Pro Bowl dot Com Forward slash Votes

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Speaker 1: and voting again runs through December twenty fifth. The Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl is in Orlando for the first time in three years.

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Speaker 1: In that game is on Sunday, February fourth, a week

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Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl, which will be held in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be good.

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Speaker 4: It won't be here in Arizona, though, but it'll be

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Speaker 4: anything that happens in Vegas. I guess won't really stay

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Speaker 4: in Vegas because the entire world's going to be aware

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Speaker 4: of that one.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals, the bye week is done, and so will we

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Speaker 1: here on this bonus Monday edition of Cardinals cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by a Hunday product partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Again,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and forty nine Ers is the matchup here in

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen. Much more on that game as the week progresses,

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Speaker 1: but for now we put the lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by a Hundai probably partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer jim On Mahundro, our associate producer Cody Fincher.

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Speaker 1: For Zach Gershman, I'm Craig Rayolou. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.