WEBVTT - Fire, Ice, and Everything Nice

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Serena, and we are back to recap episode four.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we do, we had it was honesty. It

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<v Speaker 1>may have been the best Monday of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Bachelor Mondays are always a highlight in our

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<v Speaker 2>day to day, but I think that this Monday took

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<v Speaker 2>the cake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, having a wedding. So this past Monday, we were

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<v Speaker 1>at Noah and Abigail's wedding in Tulsa, which the venue

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<v Speaker 1>itself was one of the nicest wedding venues I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, it was a perfect venue, perfect weather. And

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<v Speaker 2>for those of you who may not know, Abigail and

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<v Speaker 2>Noah met on season seven of Bachelor in Paradise, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the same season that Joe and myself met on,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have been together for a little over three

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<v Speaker 2>years and have finally gotten married. We're so happy to

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<v Speaker 2>be there. There's lots of Bachelor Nation friends and family

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was nice seeing everyone. Ivan was there Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>Becka On, Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep Anna and Chris Blake, Moyn's Chelsea, Serena c I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's it. And if we missed anyone. We're so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're sorry, but I'm sure we all hung out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's everyone though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a great group and we did three

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<v Speaker 2>days of activities. We were able to go see their house,

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<v Speaker 2>which if you follow them on Instagram, they have worked

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<v Speaker 2>so hard on to remodel, redecorate. Yeah, and they're super

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<v Speaker 2>proud of it. Was so beautiful and so exciting to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Thomas just he really just kept admiring me the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. But that's a whole that's a whole other thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Before before we do get into this recap, we had

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<v Speaker 1>such a great conversation with Charles and we see that

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<v Speaker 1>he he does go home, so we're going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>him out real quick to have a quick little chat

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<v Speaker 1>with Charles before we get into the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we know how much you guys love Charles. We

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<v Speaker 2>love him too. We were sad to see him go

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<v Speaker 2>and his journey end, but we just want to touch

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<v Speaker 2>base with him and see how he's feeling after his

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<v Speaker 2>journey on the show's over. We hope this is the

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<v Speaker 2>last we see of him, but we hope that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>Catching up with Charles all right, let's bring him in.

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<v Speaker 2>Charles, thanks for coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you, Serena.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, Charles, were were you shocked to get sent home?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, why not?

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<v Speaker 4>I sensed it as as I explained to you before,

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<v Speaker 4>I have the data.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have the data.

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<v Speaker 4>Why because I look around it and I assessed, to

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<v Speaker 4>be honest, it's just between this time or the next session.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's but it's getting closer. I knew I

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<v Speaker 4>was doing the writing.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you sad that your time on the show was

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<v Speaker 2>coming to an end?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in a sense it is. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we the cast members, you know, we support

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<v Speaker 4>each other, but we don't compete each other in a sense.

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<v Speaker 4>We we are happy to see that as you know,

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<v Speaker 4>at the end, Joan can only pick one gentleman, as

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<v Speaker 4>you know that, and we'll be very happy whoever she's

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<v Speaker 4>going to pick. And and I kind of sensed I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not that one of the few final ones, whatever we

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<v Speaker 4>believe or not.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's my my data tells me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you built a friendship with Joan after

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<v Speaker 1>all said and done? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how much details on the show if

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<v Speaker 4>you compare the first time I met Joan and the

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<v Speaker 4>first time I drank you know, tea with her to

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<v Speaker 4>the end, you know, when she hugged that, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>receive the roles. Actually, yeah, we had a boundering and

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<v Speaker 4>we liked each other. But as you know, like each

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<v Speaker 4>other is one thing, to love each other is another thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm kind of you're not happy for John, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>she continues her journey to find that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>best one she really loves, you know, so even though

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<v Speaker 4>we don't know yet, but I'm happy for her, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy for the lucky one, you know, in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>If if you, Charles, can give Joan a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>advice when you left, what would it be.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool with your own decision? You know, follow your heart

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<v Speaker 4>and don't hesitate. Don't be you know, kind of confused

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<v Speaker 4>because a lot of you know, gorgeous man in front

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<v Speaker 4>of her, but she can only pick one and don't

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<v Speaker 4>hesitate and follow her heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Charles, we have you back here today because people

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<v Speaker 2>are so sad that you won't be on the show anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You were such a star. Were you expecting this outpour

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<v Speaker 2>of love for you or was this a surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a surprise, you know, as you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>hear lots of fantastic fans. You know, I love them

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<v Speaker 4>and I thank them for the support. Of course they

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<v Speaker 4>want to I guess they want to see me continue

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<v Speaker 4>and continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they want more Charles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but the reality is the reality, you know, at

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<v Speaker 4>a certain time, Unfortunately, you know, there's a one guy

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<v Speaker 4>out there.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like a probably Joan loves more than to Charles.

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<v Speaker 4>So so it's okay, you know, but my part is

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit the intersaid feeling as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, do you think you would ever be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do what Joan did be in her position and

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say it was thirty women in Charles.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't thought about it yet, but if that opportunity rises.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? Okay, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving the show, what is your favorite memory or takeaway lesson?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the kind of you know, the way Joan

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<v Speaker 4>talks things. She's very quick and smart. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>really give her credit on that. You know, she has

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with twenty four men at the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how she remembers all the information that

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<v Speaker 4>she's talked about, or she's going to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's one thing. Second is the brotherihood.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we build in the mansion and around the mansion,

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<v Speaker 4>you know during the even group days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do you think, how do you think this show,

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<v Speaker 1>after all said and done, is going to impact your

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<v Speaker 1>life moving forward?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, you know. First of all, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>a big jump in a sense. As you know, at

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<v Speaker 4>the very beginning, I was still sad in a sense,

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<v Speaker 4>and after joining the program, I open up myself. I

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<v Speaker 4>expressed my sorrows, and my cast members kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>encouraged me and pat my shoulders say Charles, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we know it's sad, but it's also okay

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<v Speaker 4>to move on, you know when when opportunity knocks.

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<v Speaker 3>You know on my door. That that kind of fitting

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<v Speaker 3>and the excitement I had during the show as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you are single. You did not end up with Joan.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you dating? What are you looking for when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to women?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, this is a million dollar question. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, I'm traveling. You know, I focused on

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<v Speaker 4>travel at this moment, but when I returned back to

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<v Speaker 4>the States, I have to check certain accounts to to

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<v Speaker 4>assess the information and messages and hopefully I will summarize

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<v Speaker 4>against some data and I will make a kind of

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<v Speaker 4>very quicker decision what I should do next.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, hey, Charles, got to check the DMS.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, Charles, that's good. Anywhere else on your

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<v Speaker 1>on your on your travel list that you're going, that's

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<v Speaker 1>fun that you could tell.

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<v Speaker 4>Us, Yes, you know, yeah, talking about the travel plans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll return to LA for another program. I think AC

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<v Speaker 4>called to mentell all and I'll be very very happy

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<v Speaker 4>to see my cast members and friends all over again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll look forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you and the guys have any plans for after that?

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<v Speaker 1>You guys going to do like a big dinner or

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<v Speaker 1>go out or anything like that. Maybe go have some beers.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, in the mention, we joke about whoever got married,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll all go there. So that's the first thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope I'll get an answer all around that time,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if that if really is going to happen. Second,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, you know what will hug will love maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Also with tears, you know, because we miss each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you guys, you know you're pretty Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty close to Las Vegas. Would you guys maybe

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<v Speaker 1>go do like a Vegas trip?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, why not? We would love to have Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we will even you know, thinking about to.

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<v Speaker 4>A little island in a nearby Okay, yeah, if that happens,

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<v Speaker 4>that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you guys go to Vegas, Joe is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>want you to invite him, so keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles, thank you so much for hopping back on and

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<v Speaker 1>just watching you go through your journey. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>the impact that had on you, but also your impact

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<v Speaker 1>on others. I think it's really lifted a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people and just brought some happiness into the world. So

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<v Speaker 1>we really appreciate you and everything you've done.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, and please tell you know the fans there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Charles missed them and Charles wanted to thank

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<v Speaker 4>them for their love and support.

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<v Speaker 1>I will in any any single Ladies, you're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be entered into Charles' spreadsheet and he's gonna he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna figure it out, He's gonna assess the situation. Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you again so much. Charles l what a gem.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're gonna get see him at mental all

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<v Speaker 1>but so happy for him.

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<v Speaker 2>To come on I know, I'm so happy we have

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<v Speaker 2>mental hell to kind of reunite with all the men.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's time we get into our episode

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<v Speaker 2>before recap.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So first group date we've got. I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of becoming like a Bachelor Nation favorite date.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's similar to the shopping date, the strip Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>This is, you know, the second or third time we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it in a few seasons. It's always a good time,

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<v Speaker 2>always fun for the lead. I feel like too, to

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<v Speaker 2>just get to sit watch and it's flirty and it's energetic.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've got Caitlin Bristow. What were you saying, Bristow Bristow,

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<v Speaker 2>Caitlin Bristow, We've gotst We've got KB Caitlin Bristow making

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<v Speaker 2>a cameo hosting this date. She's always really good at these.

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<v Speaker 2>She's really good at hosting dates on The Bachelor, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I never I never get sick of her doing these. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are teaming up with Stand Up to Cancer

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<v Speaker 2>to bear it all to your doctor when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to your health.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you could see all the guys were very

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<v Speaker 1>they they were very excited to do it for Stand

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<v Speaker 1>Up for Cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like their enthusiasm when they found out

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to be doing like a Chippendale stripper

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<v Speaker 2>date was pretty low understandably, you know, they're like sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, I don't know if I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>up on stage and strip down.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's why I think you're wrong. I think low key.

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<v Speaker 1>They really wanted to and then they then they heard

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<v Speaker 1>it was for cancer, and they're like, Okay, now I

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<v Speaker 1>won't even feel embarrassed about it. Now I could really

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<v Speaker 1>go all over. Really, that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the the partnering with cancer I think is very

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<v Speaker 2>fitting too because Joan, along with a lot of the men,

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<v Speaker 2>lost their spouses to cancer. So we love, we love

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<v Speaker 2>a cause, we love a good cause. Who were your

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<v Speaker 2>standouts when it came to the dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I think Jonathan he uh, the guys

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<v Speaker 1>just in great shape, so he was like he actually

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a stripper.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he was, like, I was shocked when

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<v Speaker 2>he said he hadn't done it before.

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<v Speaker 1>When they called out the the older Chippendale guys, Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>could have been one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>The older Tripadale guys looked great too, But that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like Jonathan, in my opinion, I think would

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<v Speaker 1>have could have fit in with those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was really good. He was definitely a standout.

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<v Speaker 2>I also thought that Gary did a really good job.

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of like I think he was wearing like

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<v Speaker 2>some surally professor cos his shirt ripped his shirt open.

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<v Speaker 2>Chalk said something really nice just that like he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>super comfortable, but the day wasn't about him, it was

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<v Speaker 2>about doing something for others. And I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>really sweet. I thought that was a good message to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ring throughout the episode of doing something for

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<v Speaker 2>other people even when you feel uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you also kind of you like you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say something, you know, Yeah, what you have to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do something like you can't just be

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody likes the person that just doesn't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>there and doesn't give it one hundred percent effort. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I would That's why I would be so bad

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<v Speaker 1>at this, because I would really fight against doing it

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<v Speaker 1>or trying, and then people would be like, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>all gave it one hundred percent and this asshole gave

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<v Speaker 1>it fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you you know what it would be so interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to see you go on the bacherette and make it

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<v Speaker 2>further because you never had to do group dates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you had a hard time with one on one

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<v Speaker 2>date activities when we were on the Bachelor in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't imagine you like on a group date.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm too I'm too in my hat and I

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<v Speaker 1>get too much, too much of a baby, and I

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do this. So yeah, I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of those one of those people. I'm the worst. But

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<v Speaker 1>like overall, yeah, I think it was a fun date,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I think a lot of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>were moving better than jon't even expect it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. Another standout has to be Keith because he

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<v Speaker 2>just showed not only so much enthusiasm for the activity,

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<v Speaker 2>he has been a lifelong dreamer of wanting to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Chippendale dancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Which he also stuck his head in between her legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's gonna stand out for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That was funny because that was funny, just like Caitlyn's reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what what is exactly going on?

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought it was so fun. I love that

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<v Speaker 2>he got into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he was like living his best life up there.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, Caitlin's reaction made all of the dancing so

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<v Speaker 2>much funnier because she was just shocked by everything that

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<v Speaker 2>was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then your guy Chock, he bear it it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Chalk bared it all. I feel like he was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the people that was on the more uncomfortable side.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if we're on a scale, like Jonathan and Keith

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<v Speaker 2>were the most comfortable, and then I would say Chalk

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<v Speaker 2>was maybe the least comfortable with the activity, but you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could tell chesso Chalk he's a successful businessman. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think a very successful businessman. And usually, like those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter like how uncomfortable they are. He gets it done,

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<v Speaker 1>and he gets it done and he does it well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he's like I might not like this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still going to show up and get an A

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<v Speaker 2>plus plus for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And that's why I'm envious of him, because if

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like, all right, I'm just gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>it done too, but I wouldn't pull it off. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference. Chalk did pull it off.

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<v Speaker 2>He pulled it off. He crashed it. He showed up

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<v Speaker 2>in his businessman's suit. He shook his ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then we see it.

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<v Speaker 2>We dance up on Joel and ten out of ten. Yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had to give out a group date Rose

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<v Speaker 2>just on performance alone from the Chippendale's beard all day,

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<v Speaker 2>who would get your rose?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? My Rose would solely go to the same person

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<v Speaker 1>every week, and that would be Pascal, because I find

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<v Speaker 1>I find him so funny every day he talks.

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<v Speaker 2>I barely remember Pascal on that stage. Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he did he he he moved, he had he

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<v Speaker 1>has abs and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I know, I do remember because he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, y, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Show off my mind. Pascal is the oldest guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the house in.

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<v Speaker 2>The he looks amazing. He is ripped, He's in great shape. No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I do, I take it back. I do remember Pascal.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who I'm gonna give it to. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Mark was great, Chalk was great. I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>it to Gary. I just like Gary. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we see a lot of his interviews but and

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<v Speaker 2>his conversations with Joan. But I feel like we saw

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<v Speaker 2>more of his personality on this date and just him

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<v Speaker 2>being silly and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, that's sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Also thought it was great that they ended off the

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<v Speaker 2>date with making a donation to the charity. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's got a great message. It touches home with

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<v Speaker 2>Joan and a lot of the other contestants, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as probably a lot of people watching. So, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to strip, do it for a good cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love that. I could see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them continuing this work because so many of them were

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<v Speaker 1>affected by it, and honestly, they had so much fun

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<v Speaker 1>doing it that I could see after the show a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, shout out to Stand Up to Cancer. If

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are loving the state as much as we

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<v Speaker 2>are and you feel compelled to either donate or get

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<v Speaker 2>involved with Stand Up to Cancer in any way. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a great cause and you can find more information online

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<v Speaker 2>at Bachelor Nation dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Great.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the night portion of this date, Joe talks about

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<v Speaker 2>Joan talks about John, her late husband, being diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 2>cancer and what that experience was like finding out on

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day. And I feel like the standout on this

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<v Speaker 2>night portion was really mark for obvious reasons. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>his wife passed away due to cancer as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were really able to kind of connect over that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like he was able to just relate

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<v Speaker 2>to her and be like just someone to lean on

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to her grieving process and what it

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<v Speaker 2>means to be searching for love again after you've lost

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<v Speaker 2>your spouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has to be like with such a horrible situation,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be nice to find someone that you

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<v Speaker 1>can relate to and just be able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And Mark is like that guy you could

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<v Speaker 1>tell like he is like a girl dad, and he

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<v Speaker 1>listens and he's just like he's just like a genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>nice person.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to compare Joey Kelsey's fiance and Mark kelsey zad

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<v Speaker 2>right now, but they very similar. They are two men

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<v Speaker 2>that we've seen on this show that are so good

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<v Speaker 2>at both listening to what someone is saying and what

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<v Speaker 2>they're going through and giving like the opposite of just

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<v Speaker 2>like a generic response, like a really thoughtful, passionate response,

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<v Speaker 2>like both sharing their own experience but also like validing

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<v Speaker 2>their feelings, like giving them advice if that's what they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for, Like just very emotionally in tune when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to these more in depth conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good for Kelsey, and Kelsey's.

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<v Speaker 2>Rated it too. I just feel like like Joey and

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<v Speaker 2>Mark have both really exemplified that quality.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's jump over to after this group day. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't no one gets a rose the date she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>give out a group date rose. I feel like all

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<v Speaker 2>the conversations we see she has are great. We see

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<v Speaker 2>her talk to Chalk and the date went well and

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<v Speaker 2>the night went well. We see Chalk at the mansion

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone, and I feel like he had mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>when he was talking to Joe like, oh, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to get to talk to my mom soon. So I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thought that that's where maybe that was going.

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<v Speaker 2>But he finds out that his mom sadly passed away

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<v Speaker 2>very early that morning. Yeah, it sounds like she was

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<v Speaker 2>with family or loved ones, and it was a care

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<v Speaker 2>taker that was on the phone with him letting him

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<v Speaker 2>know what had happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like Joan said, I mean, it's it's never it's

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<v Speaker 1>never easy. It doesn't matter what age you are to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that your your mother passed. So feel bad, so

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<v Speaker 1>bad for Chock. And she understood that, like he had

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<v Speaker 1>to leave, and we don't know as viewers, like we

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<v Speaker 1>see at the end of the episode he comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>but if viewers, we don't know if he's just gone

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<v Speaker 1>for good. And it kind of seems a very similar

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<v Speaker 1>similar way, a very similar situation to when Joan had

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<v Speaker 1>to leave Gary season, but the difference here. So when

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<v Speaker 1>Joan left Gary season, I was like, oh, Gary seems

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<v Speaker 1>to really be into her. I think she likes him.

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<v Speaker 1>But when Chock left.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also only week three where we're now at

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<v Speaker 2>week four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in Chock leaving, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, and Chalk had like the first one on one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And this was the first time I was like, Oh,

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.640
<v Speaker 1>they're they really like each other, Like the feelings are mutual.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like once more into the other, like

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<v Speaker 1>they actually seem to be going places. So then in

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<v Speaker 1>my head I'm like, oh, I actually, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he comes back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I remember we kind of felt that way

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 2>about Joan two was we were wondering if maybe in

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<v Speaker 2>like a week or two, she would show back up,

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<v Speaker 2>because it felt like she was going to go home

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<v Speaker 2>support her daughter, and then there was a chance that

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<v Speaker 2>she returned just because her and Gary did seem to

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<v Speaker 2>have a really strong connection, and obviously that never happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But Chalk leaving, yeah, I didn't know if he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to come back or not. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>he said the passing of his mom wasn't a surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't come out of know where. He was aware

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<v Speaker 2>when he left that she was declining. They just obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you never have any idea really how rapidly that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. So not a shock, but obviously still devastating news.

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<v Speaker 2>So he went home to kind of help his family,

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<v Speaker 2>be with his family, prepare any arrangements that need to

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<v Speaker 2>be made. I don't know how long exactly he was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>For, but probably probably a few days. But I will

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<v Speaker 1>say like he seems like a very sincere man, and

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<v Speaker 1>him coming back also just kind of shows us how

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>real this experience is for him and how much he

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<v Speaker 1>really likes Joan, because think about it, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>he laughed, I'm sure if he was at that into Joan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure when he got home he would have probably

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<v Speaker 1>come to that realization. So for him coming back to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, they might end up together.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I totally agree in the sense of, like if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm him, like I'm only hauling my ass back to

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<v Speaker 2>the mansion, if I'm really into the person, or like

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<v Speaker 2>it's going somewhere like maybe I don't know if she's

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<v Speaker 2>the one yet or if I'm the strongest connection there,

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 2>but like there's got to at least be some serious

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<v Speaker 2>potential and reassurance if I'm gonna leave my family in

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<v Speaker 2>this time of loss and grieving to go back on

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<v Speaker 2>tell vision after I've just lost my mom to continue

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<v Speaker 2>dating this woman. Yeah, and in the truly, if it

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<v Speaker 2>was not going on between them, like I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he would have come back.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from Joan's point of view, it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>put him like so much I don't want to like

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<v Speaker 1>further ahead than the other guys because like, this guy

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>came back, so now she knows, she knows that he

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<v Speaker 1>really likes her, which is probably just gonna help her

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<v Speaker 1>her feelings just move quicker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's reassuring for her to see that he has

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<v Speaker 2>kind of put what's going on in his personal life

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<v Speaker 2>on hold for the time being to continue this journey

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>in pursuing her, which I think is very romantic and

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it intensifies their relationship and probably makes their

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 2>feelings stronger. I also would take him a lot more

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 2>seriously if I was young or if yeah, if I

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 2>was Joan, because I'm gonna look at him and be like, okay,

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 2>like he's really put his life on hold to be here.

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And now you know their conversations are going to

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>be more in depth and a little more heavier because

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of something like this.

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And they are also probably something bonded through it

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 2>in the way that she has supported him and been

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>there for him in a time of grief, which I

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 2>think connects people.

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm curious to see where that relationship goes, because

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it's definitely just due to this incident, surpassed probably quite

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>a few people in the house.

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, But we do have We do

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>have a few one on one dates this episode.

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Some quickie one on ones. We got Jordan, who I

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 2>really like Jordan. I've liked him the whole time. He

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 2>seems great.

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I like Jordan too, and I think she really likes him.

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I do think so too. I think that they have

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 2>a connection for sure.

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>That we're at the point of the season now where

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the rest of the guys that are

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>here in Jordan being one of them, and be like, Okay,

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this is all starting to make sense.

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Like you feel like the front Runners are falling into place. Yes, yeah,

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because like I think, at the beginning of every season,

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 1>there's just so much going on that you don't really

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>even get the fully understand or see how the lead

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>actually feels about these people, Like you see it in

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>bits and pieces. But now we're starting to see it

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>just in longer segments, and I'm like, okay, like Joan

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>talking to Jordan, I'm like, okay, I'm buying into that.

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, yeah, I agree. You're just seeing longer

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 2>clips of them connecting, and you're starting to get a

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 2>taste of like where the relationships are at. I feel

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 2>like the first few weeks it's just like you said,

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like snippets of conversations, and now you're like, oh, her

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 2>and Jordan are actually they really like each other? Yeah,

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Like this could potentially get serious.

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I think a big thing for for Joan, and I

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 1>would assume for a lot of these guys too, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be about like are you willing to move?

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Where do you live? Can we can we have a

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>long term, long distance relationship. I think that's going to

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>play a big part too in her decision.

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so interesting because I feel like the conversation

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>on Bachelor and Bauchelrette is always like, do you want kids?

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Can you move with your job? What are your goals

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 2>in the future, Like how do you see the next

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>five ten years of your life playing out? Do you

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>want a family? And the conversations when it comes to

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 2>like deal breakers here always the same but different. Yeah,

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 2>it's like still about family, and it's still about location,

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 2>and it's still somewhat about work if they're still working.

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>But just jump it like fifty years ahead.

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>But Jordan was a really good sport. I cannot believe

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.959
<v Speaker 2>he ended up on a date that's a skating date

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 2>when he doesn't know how to skate. That's actually really

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>nerve racking.

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, oh, I don't think so, I actually

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's I actually think a place to your benefit?

0:27:59.240 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Really what?

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you could, it's you can make fun of yourself.

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not like not everyone it's not like it's like walk,

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like every not everyone knows not everyone

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 1>knows how to skate. So you could have fun with it,

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>You could play with it, especially if she knows how

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>to skate.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 2>That's true. And you know what, I think it speaks

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>to his personality being able to laugh at himself and

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 2>not take it so seriously and get like mad and

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.479
<v Speaker 2>embarrassed that he doesn't know what he's doing. Like that

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>makes it more fun.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>And I also think it makes him stand out a

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit because she looks at him as being like

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a very athletic guy and probably good at most things.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>So then to see him like out of his element,

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 1>out of his element, and yeah, you just see like

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>another side of him that you just you just learn more,

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and if you learn more, you end up liking them more,

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I agree. And then the second one on my date

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>we have is guy. He's on a cooking baking date.

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>They kind of connect on like how family dinners are

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>really important and how she has kind of started this

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>tradition of Sunday night dinners at her place. Did you

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>grow up with family dinners? What was your family dinner vibe?

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>My grandmother, my Norwegian grandmother.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Who was married to an Italian and.

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Was married to Italian, did Italian Sunday dinners? Every Sunday

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>until I was, like, I want to say, they kind

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of stopped once. I probably probably after eighth grade. At

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>least I dipped out after eighth grade.

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Out you stopped going after eight I'm actually surprised you made.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>It that while you know what, guys, I'm out. I'm

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a freshman now.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I actually remember after your grandmother passed, one of your

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>aunts messaged and said that she was going to host

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>a Sunday dinner on your grandma's and your grandma's honor.

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure, what do you mean?

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Sure that did happen. We just don't live there, so

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>we didn't go.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, she made the best, the best meatballs.

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>But I do. I I believe in that. Like I

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>think having like a family dinner once a week is

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>really nice.

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my parents are always pretty big on sitting down

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>and having dinner together. Yeah, they were like, even if

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like sometimes it's in front of the TV, like just

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>sitting down and eating a meal together.

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's very important to have dinner, like

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a sit down dinner every night. Like I think you

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>should take time.

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you should definitely eat pot lunch.

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Listen, Serena. My point is I believe that you should

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>always have like a nice I think it's important to

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>have a nice dinner every night. I think rushing dinner

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>is a mistake. Why because life short and it's like

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like, just make it nice. You could have, you know,

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>nice dinner. And I'm not saying you have to go

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>out to a nice restaurant, but you can have a

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>nice dinner at home.

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 2>We do take dinner pretty seriously, but we always sit

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>down and have a nice dinner.

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, Guy Guy in jone. Okay, so Guy

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>was one of my final four guys. I like him.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm seeing between those two.

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, it's I can't tell yet because I

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>like Guy and I think that they get a long while.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if I saw like the chemistry

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>when they were like cooking together and but I don't know.

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's like more of a friendship.

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>That well that yeah, but that's that's kind of what

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting, getting more more friendship vibes.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Friendship vibes. Yeah, I don't know if it's feeling overly romantic.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 2>She just doesn't seem as giddy around him. Yeah, and

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>some of the other guys.

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And Guy, I remember really stood out because I really

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>liked his his limbo entrance, and I saw that I

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>thought like it seemed like so that sparked that I

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>thought that I saw night one, I don't necessarily see anymore.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that. Yeah,

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>but I like him and I like to the date.

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I thought the cooking day it was cute.

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like we could definitely be wrong.

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course you can always be wrong. This is

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 2>just we're just speculating. Okay, let's go to the Rose

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>ceremony slash cocktail hardy. I think the big event of

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>this is obviously Chalk comes back.

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Yep, which we basically touched on when we talked about

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>him bang. But I but like, yeah, I don't know.

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's it's like it's giving charity in Dotten like.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, we also we also just saw a lot of

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Chalk and Jones relationship this episode, like way more than

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 2>we have in any other episode. And also just like

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>way more we've seen, Like I would say at this point,

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.239
<v Speaker 2>just from this episode, we've seen Chalk and Joe more

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>than any other couple. Yeah, So I don't know if

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>that will like change as the episodes go on and

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 2>we see her with like Jordan Moore and some of

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 2>the other but I.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Will say, out of all the one on one so

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>far this season, the one that I remember is Chalk's.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh actually no, I also remember Pascal's. But there is

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>just there's a difference between how I think she feels

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>about Pascal and how I think she feels about Truck.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's for sure. But another stand out I

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>would say is Keith and her conversation. Just I feel

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 2>like they had such a strong start and he was

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 2>just one of the people that came in very confident

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 2>and very natural, and they bonded over loving the beach

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and they were playing games and it was so fun.

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>And he just totally panicked in this episode, like he

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 2>was like tripping over his words. I was like, what

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 2>is happening. I've never seen someone go into like anxious

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>panic mode like week four.

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Will you know what? I think?

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think I'm I think I'm pretty right on this.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Keith is a social butterfly. He's seems to be. You

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>could just tell he's one of those guys that he's

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>just great in a crowd. He's great around a lot

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:07.719
<v Speaker 1>of people. He's personal he's charismatic. He he knows how

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to how to work the crowd, and I think, like

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>somebody like Keith Shines night one, when there's everyone's there,

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it's hectic, there's a lot going on. Yeah, and then

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you put him in a situation that he hasn't he's

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>not used to at all, or at least it's probably

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>been a while to where he set up like a

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>romantic picnic date for a woman, and I think he

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>just realized how vulnerable he felt in that moment. And

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>then I think he got in his head and I

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>think it was just straight paniced. You nailed it, and

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that that's what I think happened. So that's why I'm like, Yeah,

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like because we know you, like you said, you

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>never really see that like week four. Yeah, But I

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>just think it was just because he hasn't been in

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>that situation. We're only seeing him on group dates, you know,

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing him in the and he's probably he's a

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>guy's guy, you could tell, Like I think all those

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>things that I think what it was like in the moment,

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like you panic, But the good thing is she didn't

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 1>send them home.

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>She didn't send them home, Yeah, which I would have

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 2>been surprised if she did, because he was.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was sending home because of that.

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the only thing I was wondering is, you know,

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 2>he definitely put himself out there to kind of make

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 2>a romantic moment that just seemed to fall through. And

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I felt like she was maybe

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>like maybe he felt like she wasn't reciprocating those romantic

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 2>feelings that he was trying to put out there, and

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that was also feeding into the anxiety. Like He's another

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 2>one where I feel like loved him from the beginning.

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:45.879
<v Speaker 2>Literally in the beginning, I was like, oh my god,

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>like she could totally end up with this guy, And

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 2>now I'm wondering if they've fallen into more friendship than romance.

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 2>But I could also just be going off this one

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>incident where the date just kind of didn't really hit.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's just I just feel like, at this point

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, if a date doesn't hit, it's not great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not great.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Keith, I like too. We will see, but

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<v Speaker 2>we say goodbye to some favorites. I mean, the guys

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<v Speaker 2>are so great. It's at this part getting really hard

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<v Speaker 2>to say goodbye to them. But the four people that

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<v Speaker 2>were sent home were Gary, Dan, Charles, and Gil Gary.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, really, what was the second name you said? Gary? Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>Who Dan? We had on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye. Dan's such a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>We loved Dan. He has a wild story. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was sad to see him go. And Gary. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I know if I ever really felt it

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<v Speaker 2>from Joan for Gary, but I felt like Gary was

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<v Speaker 2>really emotionally invested in the relationship and really putting his

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<v Speaker 2>heart out there for Joan.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also just like a good energy, high energy guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to me, the guys that went home now are

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<v Speaker 1>going to affect the other guys in the house so

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<v Speaker 1>much more, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like losing Gary and Charles is a huge hit for

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<v Speaker 2>like the vibes in the house for the group, because

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<v Speaker 2>like Charles is out here teaching tai chi in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning by the pool, Gary's out here ripping his shirt

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<v Speaker 2>off during the stripper date making everyone laugh. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>just seems like he's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Total You're losing big personalities and this is the time

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<v Speaker 1>of the show where now everyone's like, Okay, it's getting serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Why my hair again? Because yeah, yeah, definitely, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just like less and less guys to do

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<v Speaker 2>Pascal's laundry and make his food.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, we also do see in the teaser I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see, but it looks like Pascal gets

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<v Speaker 1>involved in some shit too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah well, we will have to stay tuned to see

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<v Speaker 2>how that plays out next week, and you guys will

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<v Speaker 2>have to stay tuned to listen to our interview with

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<v Speaker 2>Mark coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, thank you so much for listening about your happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening. Bye,