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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are back to recap episode four.

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Speaker 1: But before we do, we had it was honesty. It

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Speaker 1: may have been the best Monday of all time.

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Speaker 2: I know Bachelor Mondays are always a highlight in our

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Speaker 2: day to day, but I think that this Monday took

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Speaker 2: the cake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, having a wedding. So this past Monday, we were

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Speaker 1: at Noah and Abigail's wedding in Tulsa, which the venue

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Speaker 1: itself was one of the nicest wedding venues I think

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Speaker 2: I agree, it was a perfect venue, perfect weather. And

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Speaker 2: for those of you who may not know, Abigail and

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Speaker 2: Noah met on season seven of Bachelor in Paradise, which

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Speaker 2: is the same season that Joe and myself met on,

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Speaker 2: and they have been together for a little over three

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Speaker 2: years and have finally gotten married. We're so happy to

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Speaker 2: be there. There's lots of Bachelor Nation friends and family

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Speaker 2: in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was nice seeing everyone. Ivan was there Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Becka On, Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Yep Anna and Chris Blake, Moyn's Chelsea, Serena c I

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Speaker 2: think that's it. And if we missed anyone. We're so sorry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're sorry, but I'm sure we all hung out.

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Speaker 1: I think that's everyone though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great group and we did three

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Speaker 2: days of activities. We were able to go see their house,

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Speaker 2: which if you follow them on Instagram, they have worked

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Speaker 2: so hard on to remodel, redecorate. Yeah, and they're super

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Speaker 2: proud of it. Was so beautiful and so exciting to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Thomas just he really just kept admiring me the

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Speaker 1: whole time. But that's a whole that's a whole other thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Before before we do get into this recap, we had

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Speaker 1: such a great conversation with Charles and we see that

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Speaker 1: he he does go home, so we're going to bring

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Speaker 1: him out real quick to have a quick little chat

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Speaker 1: with Charles before we get into the episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know how much you guys love Charles. We

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Speaker 2: love him too. We were sad to see him go

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Speaker 2: and his journey end, but we just want to touch

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Speaker 2: base with him and see how he's feeling after his

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Speaker 2: journey on the show's over. We hope this is the

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Speaker 2: last we see of him, but we hope that you

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Speaker 2: guys enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Catching up with Charles all right, let's bring him in.

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Speaker 2: Charles, thanks for coming back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Serena.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Charles, were were you shocked to get sent home?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, why not?

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Speaker 4: I sensed it as as I explained to you before,

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Speaker 4: I have the data.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the data.

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Speaker 4: Why because I look around it and I assessed, to

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Speaker 4: be honest, it's just between this time or the next session.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's but it's getting closer. I knew I

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Speaker 4: was doing the writing.

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Speaker 2: Were you sad that your time on the show was

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Speaker 2: coming to an end?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in a sense it is. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 4: you know, we the cast members, you know, we support

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Speaker 4: each other, but we don't compete each other in a sense.

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Speaker 4: We we are happy to see that as you know,

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Speaker 4: at the end, Joan can only pick one gentleman, as

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Speaker 4: you know that, and we'll be very happy whoever she's

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Speaker 4: going to pick. And and I kind of sensed I'm

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Speaker 4: not that one of the few final ones, whatever we

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Speaker 3: You know, that's my my data tells me.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you built a friendship with Joan after

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Speaker 1: all said and done? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much details on the show if

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Speaker 4: you compare the first time I met Joan and the

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Speaker 4: first time I drank you know, tea with her to

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Speaker 4: the end, you know, when she hugged that, I didn't

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Speaker 4: receive the roles. Actually, yeah, we had a boundering and

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Speaker 4: we liked each other. But as you know, like each

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Speaker 4: other is one thing, to love each other is another thing.

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Speaker 4: So I'm kind of you're not happy for John, you know,

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Speaker 4: we don't know yet, but I'm happy for her, and

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Speaker 4: I'm happy for the lucky one, you know, in the end.

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Speaker 1: If if you, Charles, can give Joan a piece of

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Speaker 1: advice when you left, what would it be.

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Speaker 4: Cool with your own decision? You know, follow your heart

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Speaker 4: and don't hesitate. Don't be you know, kind of confused

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Charles, we have you back here today because people

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Speaker 2: are so sad that you won't be on the show anymore.

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Speaker 2: You were such a star. Were you expecting this outpour

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Speaker 2: of love for you or was this a surprise.

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Speaker 4: It is a surprise, you know, as you know, I

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Speaker 4: hear lots of fantastic fans. You know, I love them

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Speaker 4: and I thank them for the support. Of course they

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Speaker 4: want to I guess they want to see me continue

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Speaker 4: and continue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they want more Charles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the reality is the reality, you know, at

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Speaker 4: a certain time, Unfortunately, you know, there's a one guy

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Speaker 3: It seems like a probably Joan loves more than to Charles.

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Speaker 4: So so it's okay, you know, but my part is

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Speaker 4: a little bit the intersaid feeling as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you think you would ever be able

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Speaker 1: to do what Joan did be in her position and

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Speaker 1: let's just say it was thirty women in Charles.

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Speaker 4: I haven't thought about it yet, but if that opportunity rises.

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Speaker 1: Why not? Okay, I like that.

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Speaker 2: Leaving the show, what is your favorite memory or takeaway lesson?

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Speaker 4: You know, the kind of you know, the way Joan

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Speaker 4: talks things. She's very quick and smart. You know, I

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Speaker 4: really give her credit on that. You know, she has

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Speaker 4: to deal with twenty four men at the very beginning.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how she remembers all the information that

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Speaker 3: So that's one thing. Second is the brotherihood.

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Speaker 4: You know, we build in the mansion and around the mansion,

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Speaker 4: you know during the even group days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you think, how do you think this show,

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Speaker 1: after all said and done, is going to impact your

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Speaker 1: life moving forward?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Of course, you know. First of all, I think it's

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Speaker 4: and after joining the program, I open up myself. I

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Speaker 4: encouraged me and pat my shoulders say Charles, it's okay.

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Speaker 4: You know, we know it's sad, but it's also okay

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Speaker 4: to move on, you know when when opportunity knocks.

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Speaker 3: You know on my door. That that kind of fitting

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Speaker 3: and the excitement I had during the show as well.

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Speaker 2: Well, you are single. You did not end up with Joan.

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Speaker 2: Are you dating? What are you looking for when it

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Speaker 3: Uh, this is a million dollar question. You know.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I'm traveling. You know, I focused on

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Speaker 4: travel at this moment, but when I returned back to

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Speaker 4: the States, I have to check certain accounts to to

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Speaker 4: assess the information and messages and hopefully I will summarize

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Speaker 4: against some data and I will make a kind of

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Speaker 4: very quicker decision what I should do next.

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Speaker 2: I like, hey, Charles, got to check the DMS.

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Speaker 1: I like that, Charles, that's good. Anywhere else on your

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Speaker 1: on your on your travel list that you're going, that's

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Speaker 1: fun that you could tell.

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Speaker 4: Us, Yes, you know, yeah, talking about the travel plans. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'll return to LA for another program. I think AC

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Speaker 4: called to mentell all and I'll be very very happy

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Speaker 4: to see my cast members and friends all over again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll look forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Do you and the guys have any plans for after that?

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Speaker 1: You guys going to do like a big dinner or

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Speaker 1: go out or anything like that. Maybe go have some beers.

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Speaker 4: Well, in the mention, we joke about whoever got married,

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Speaker 4: we'll all go there. So that's the first thing, you know,

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Speaker 4: I hope I'll get an answer all around that time,

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Speaker 4: you know, if that if really is going to happen. Second,

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Speaker 4: of course, you know what will hug will love maybe.

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Speaker 3: Also with tears, you know, because we miss each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you guys, you know you're pretty Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: you're pretty close to Las Vegas. Would you guys maybe

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Speaker 1: go do like a Vegas trip?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why not? We would love to have Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we will even you know, thinking about to.

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Speaker 4: A little island in a nearby Okay, yeah, if that happens,

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Speaker 4: that'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you guys go to Vegas, Joe is gonna

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Speaker 2: want you to invite him, so keep that in mind.

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Speaker 1: Charles, thank you so much for hopping back on and

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Speaker 1: just watching you go through your journey. And you know

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Speaker 1: the impact that had on you, but also your impact

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Speaker 1: on others. I think it's really lifted a lot of

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Speaker 1: we really appreciate you and everything you've done.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, and please tell you know the fans there,

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Speaker 4: you know, Charles missed them and Charles wanted to thank

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Speaker 4: them for their love and support.

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Speaker 1: I will in any any single Ladies, you're gonna you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be entered into Charles' spreadsheet and he's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: gonna figure it out, He's gonna assess the situation. Charles,

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Speaker 1: Thank you again so much. Charles l what a gem.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna get see him at mental all

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Speaker 1: but so happy for him.

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Speaker 2: To come on I know, I'm so happy we have

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Speaker 2: mental hell to kind of reunite with all the men.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's time we get into our episode

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Speaker 2: before recap.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: So first group date we've got. I feel like this

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Speaker 2: is kind of becoming like a Bachelor Nation favorite date.

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Speaker 2: Like it's similar to the shopping date, the strip Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: This is, you know, the second or third time we've

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Speaker 2: seen it in a few seasons. It's always a good time,

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Speaker 2: always fun for the lead. I feel like too, to

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Speaker 2: just get to sit watch and it's flirty and it's energetic.

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Speaker 2: And we've got Caitlin Bristow. What were you saying, Bristow Bristow,

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Bristow, We've gotst We've got KB Caitlin Bristow making

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Speaker 2: a cameo hosting this date. She's always really good at these.

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Speaker 2: She's really good at hosting dates on The Bachelor, Like

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Speaker 2: I never I never get sick of her doing these. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they are teaming up with Stand Up to Cancer

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Speaker 2: to bear it all to your doctor when it comes

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Speaker 2: to your health.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could see all the guys were very

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Speaker 1: they they were very excited to do it for Stand

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Speaker 1: Up for Cancer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like their enthusiasm when they found out

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Speaker 2: they were going to be doing like a Chippendale stripper

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Speaker 2: date was pretty low understandably, you know, they're like sixty.

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Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know if I want to get

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Speaker 2: up on stage and strip down.

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Speaker 1: See that's why I think you're wrong. I think low key.

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Speaker 1: They really wanted to and then they then they heard

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Speaker 1: it was for cancer, and they're like, Okay, now I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you you know what it would be so interesting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine you like on a group date.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then your guy Chock, he bear it it all.

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Speaker 2: He pulled it off. He crashed it. He showed up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we see it.

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Speaker 2: We dance up on Joel and ten out of ten. Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Uh? My Rose would solely go to the same person

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Speaker 2: I barely remember Pascal on that stage. Yo.

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Speaker 1: Show off my mind. Pascal is the oldest guy in

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Speaker 2: The he looks amazing. He is ripped, He's in great shape. No, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who I'm gonna give it to. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. I could see a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, shout out to Stand Up to Cancer. If

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be like with such a horrible situation,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good for Kelsey, and Kelsey's.

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Speaker 1: real this experience is for him and how much he

441
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: really likes Joan, because think about it, you know, if

442
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: he laughed, I'm sure if he was at that into Joan,

443
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure when he got home he would have probably

444
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: come to that realization. So for him coming back to me,

445
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, they might end up together.

446
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree in the sense of, like if

447
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: I'm him, like I'm only hauling my ass back to

448
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: the mansion, if I'm really into the person, or like

449
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: it's going somewhere like maybe I don't know if she's

450
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: the one yet or if I'm the strongest connection there,

451
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: but like there's got to at least be some serious

452
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: potential and reassurance if I'm gonna leave my family in

453
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: this time of loss and grieving to go back on

454
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: tell vision after I've just lost my mom to continue

455
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: dating this woman. Yeah, and in the truly, if it

456
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: was not going on between them, like I don't think

457
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: he would have come back.

458
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: And then from Joan's point of view, it's got to

459
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: put him like so much I don't want to like

460
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: further ahead than the other guys because like, this guy

461
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: came back, so now she knows, she knows that he

462
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: really likes her, which is probably just gonna help her

463
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: her feelings just move quicker.

464
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's reassuring for her to see that he has

465
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: kind of put what's going on in his personal life

466
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: on hold for the time being to continue this journey

467
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: in pursuing her, which I think is very romantic and

468
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: I think it intensifies their relationship and probably makes their

469
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: feelings stronger. I also would take him a lot more

470
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: seriously if I was young or if yeah, if I

471
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: was Joan, because I'm gonna look at him and be like, okay,

472
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: like he's really put his life on hold to be here.

473
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. And now you know their conversations are going to

474
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: be more in depth and a little more heavier because

475
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: of something like this.

476
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they are also probably something bonded through it

477
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: in the way that she has supported him and been

478
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: there for him in a time of grief, which I

479
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: think connects people.

480
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

481
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see where that relationship goes, because

482
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: it's definitely just due to this incident, surpassed probably quite

483
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: a few people in the house.

484
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, But we do have We do

485
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: have a few one on one dates this episode.

486
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: Some quickie one on ones. We got Jordan, who I

487
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: really like Jordan. I've liked him the whole time. He

488
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: seems great.

489
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: I like Jordan too, and I think she really likes him.

490
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: I do think so too. I think that they have

491
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: a connection for sure.

492
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: That we're at the point of the season now where

493
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the rest of the guys that are

494
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: here in Jordan being one of them, and be like, Okay,

495
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: this is all starting to make sense.

496
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: Like you feel like the front Runners are falling into place. Yes, yeah,

497
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: I agree.

498
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like I think, at the beginning of every season,

499
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: there's just so much going on that you don't really

500
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: even get the fully understand or see how the lead

501
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: actually feels about these people, Like you see it in

502
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: bits and pieces. But now we're starting to see it

503
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: just in longer segments, and I'm like, okay, like Joan

504
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: talking to Jordan, I'm like, okay, I'm buying into that.

505
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I agree. You're just seeing longer

506
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: clips of them connecting, and you're starting to get a

507
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: taste of like where the relationships are at. I feel

508
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: like the first few weeks it's just like you said,

509
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: like snippets of conversations, and now you're like, oh, her

510
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: and Jordan are actually they really like each other? Yeah,

511
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: Like this could potentially get serious.

512
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: I think a big thing for for Joan, and I

513
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: would assume for a lot of these guys too, is

514
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: going to be about like are you willing to move?

515
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Where do you live? Can we can we have a

516
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: long term, long distance relationship. I think that's going to

517
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: play a big part too in her decision.

518
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting because I feel like the conversation

519
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: on Bachelor and Bauchelrette is always like, do you want kids?

520
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Can you move with your job? What are your goals

521
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: in the future, Like how do you see the next

522
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: five ten years of your life playing out? Do you

523
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: want a family? And the conversations when it comes to

524
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: like deal breakers here always the same but different. Yeah,

525
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: it's like still about family, and it's still about location,

526
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: and it's still somewhat about work if they're still working.

527
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: But just jump it like fifty years ahead.

528
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.

529
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: But Jordan was a really good sport. I cannot believe

530
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 2: he ended up on a date that's a skating date

531
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: when he doesn't know how to skate. That's actually really

532
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: nerve racking.

533
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, oh, I don't think so, I actually

534
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: think it's I actually think a place to your benefit?

535
00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: Really what?

536
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could, it's you can make fun of yourself.

537
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: It's not like not everyone it's not like it's like walk,

538
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's like every not everyone knows not everyone

539
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: knows how to skate. So you could have fun with it,

540
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: You could play with it, especially if she knows how

541
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: to skate.

542
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: That's true. And you know what, I think it speaks

543
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: to his personality being able to laugh at himself and

544
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: not take it so seriously and get like mad and

545
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 2: embarrassed that he doesn't know what he's doing. Like that

546
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: makes it more fun.

547
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: And I also think it makes him stand out a

548
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: little bit because she looks at him as being like

549
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: a very athletic guy and probably good at most things.

550
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: So then to see him like out of his element,

551
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: out of his element, and yeah, you just see like

552
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: another side of him that you just you just learn more,

553
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: and if you learn more, you end up liking them more,

554
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: you know.

555
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: I agree. And then the second one on my date

556
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: we have is guy. He's on a cooking baking date.

557
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: They kind of connect on like how family dinners are

558
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: really important and how she has kind of started this

559
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: tradition of Sunday night dinners at her place. Did you

560
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: grow up with family dinners? What was your family dinner vibe?

561
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: My grandmother, my Norwegian grandmother.

562
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: Who was married to an Italian and.

563
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Was married to Italian, did Italian Sunday dinners? Every Sunday

564
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: until I was, like, I want to say, they kind

565
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: of stopped once. I probably probably after eighth grade. At

566
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: least I dipped out after eighth grade.

567
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: Out you stopped going after eight I'm actually surprised you made.

568
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: It that while you know what, guys, I'm out. I'm

569
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: a freshman now.

570
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: I actually remember after your grandmother passed, one of your

571
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: aunts messaged and said that she was going to host

572
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: a Sunday dinner on your grandma's and your grandma's honor.

573
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: Sure, what do you mean?

574
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: Sure that did happen. We just don't live there, so

575
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: we didn't go.

576
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, she made the best, the best meatballs.

577
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: But I do. I I believe in that. Like I

578
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: think having like a family dinner once a week is

579
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: really nice.

580
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, my parents are always pretty big on sitting down

581
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: and having dinner together. Yeah, they were like, even if

582
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: like sometimes it's in front of the TV, like just

583
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: sitting down and eating a meal together.

584
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's very important to have dinner, like

585
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: a sit down dinner every night. Like I think you

586
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: should take time.

587
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should definitely eat pot lunch.

588
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: Listen, Serena. My point is I believe that you should

589
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: always have like a nice I think it's important to

590
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: have a nice dinner every night. I think rushing dinner

591
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: is a mistake. Why because life short and it's like

592
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: it's like, just make it nice. You could have, you know,

593
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: nice dinner. And I'm not saying you have to go

594
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: out to a nice restaurant, but you can have a

595
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: nice dinner at home.

596
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: We do take dinner pretty seriously, but we always sit

597
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: down and have a nice dinner.

598
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, Guy Guy in jone. Okay, so Guy

599
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: was one of my final four guys. I like him.

600
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm seeing between those two.

601
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it's I can't tell yet because I

602
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: like Guy and I think that they get a long while.

603
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I saw like the chemistry

604
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: when they were like cooking together and but I don't know.

605
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like more of a friendship.

606
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: That well that yeah, but that's that's kind of what

607
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting, getting more more friendship vibes.

608
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: Friendship vibes. Yeah, I don't know if it's feeling overly romantic.

609
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: She just doesn't seem as giddy around him. Yeah, and

610
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: some of the other guys.

611
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: And Guy, I remember really stood out because I really

612
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: liked his his limbo entrance, and I saw that I

613
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: thought like it seemed like so that sparked that I

614
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: thought that I saw night one, I don't necessarily see anymore.

615
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that. Yeah,

616
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: but I like him and I like to the date.

617
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: I thought the cooking day it was cute.

618
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like we could definitely be wrong.

619
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you can always be wrong. This is

620
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: just we're just speculating. Okay, let's go to the Rose

621
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: ceremony slash cocktail hardy. I think the big event of

622
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: this is obviously Chalk comes back.

623
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Yep, which we basically touched on when we talked about

624
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: him bang. But I but like, yeah, I don't know.

625
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: To me, it's it's like it's giving charity in Dotten like.

626
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: Well, we also we also just saw a lot of

627
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: Chalk and Jones relationship this episode, like way more than

628
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: we have in any other episode. And also just like

629
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: way more we've seen, Like I would say at this point,

630
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 2: just from this episode, we've seen Chalk and Joe more

631
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: than any other couple. Yeah, So I don't know if

632
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: that will like change as the episodes go on and

633
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: we see her with like Jordan Moore and some of

634
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: the other but I.

635
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Will say, out of all the one on one so

636
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: far this season, the one that I remember is Chalk's.

637
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh actually no, I also remember Pascal's. But there is

638
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: just there's a difference between how I think she feels

639
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: about Pascal and how I think she feels about Truck.

640
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's for sure. But another stand out I

641
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: would say is Keith and her conversation. Just I feel

642
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: like they had such a strong start and he was

643
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: just one of the people that came in very confident

644
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: and very natural, and they bonded over loving the beach

645
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: and they were playing games and it was so fun.

646
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: And he just totally panicked in this episode, like he

647
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: was like tripping over his words. I was like, what

648
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: is happening. I've never seen someone go into like anxious

649
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: panic mode like week four.

650
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Will you know what? I think?

651
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 4: What?

652
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: And I think I'm I think I'm pretty right on this.

653
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: Keith is a social butterfly. He's seems to be. You

654
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: could just tell he's one of those guys that he's

655
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: just great in a crowd. He's great around a lot

656
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: of people. He's personal he's charismatic. He he knows how

657
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: to how to work the crowd, and I think, like

658
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: somebody like Keith Shines night one, when there's everyone's there,

659
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: it's hectic, there's a lot going on. Yeah, and then

660
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: you put him in a situation that he hasn't he's

661
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: not used to at all, or at least it's probably

662
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: been a while to where he set up like a

663
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: romantic picnic date for a woman, and I think he

664
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: just realized how vulnerable he felt in that moment. And

665
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: then I think he got in his head and I

666
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: think it was just straight paniced. You nailed it, and

667
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: that that's what I think happened. So that's why I'm like, Yeah,

668
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: it's like because we know you, like you said, you

669
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: never really see that like week four. Yeah, But I

670
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: just think it was just because he hasn't been in

671
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: that situation. We're only seeing him on group dates, you know,

672
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: you're seeing him in the and he's probably he's a

673
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: guy's guy, you could tell, Like I think all those

674
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: things that I think what it was like in the moment,

675
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: like you panic, But the good thing is she didn't

676
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: send them home.

677
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: She didn't send them home, Yeah, which I would have

678
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: been surprised if she did, because he was.

679
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: I thought she was sending home because of that.

680
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing I was wondering is, you know,

681
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: he definitely put himself out there to kind of make

682
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: a romantic moment that just seemed to fall through. And

683
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if I felt like she was maybe

684
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: like maybe he felt like she wasn't reciprocating those romantic

685
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: feelings that he was trying to put out there, and

686
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: that was also feeding into the anxiety. Like He's another

687
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: one where I feel like loved him from the beginning.

688
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: Literally in the beginning, I was like, oh my god,

689
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: like she could totally end up with this guy, And

690
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: now I'm wondering if they've fallen into more friendship than romance.

691
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: But I could also just be going off this one

692
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: incident where the date just kind of didn't really hit.

693
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just I just feel like, at this point

694
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: of the season, if a date doesn't hit, it's not great.

695
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: It's not great.

696
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: I like Keith, I like too. We will see, but

697
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: we say goodbye to some favorites. I mean, the guys

698
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: are so great. It's at this part getting really hard

699
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: to say goodbye to them. But the four people that

700
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: were sent home were Gary, Dan, Charles, and Gil Gary.

701
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: I feel like, really, what was the second name you said? Gary? Dan?

702
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: Oh? Dan?

703
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: Who Dan? We had on our podcast.

704
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: Ye. Dan's such a nice guy.

705
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: We loved Dan. He has a wild story. Yeah, so

706
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: it was sad to see him go. And Gary. I

707
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: don't think I know if I ever really felt it

708
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: from Joan for Gary, but I felt like Gary was

709
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: really emotionally invested in the relationship and really putting his

710
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 2: heart out there for Joan.

711
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: He was also just like a good energy, high energy guy.

712
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: Like to me, the guys that went home now are

713
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: going to affect the other guys in the house so

714
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: much more, like.

715
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: Like losing Gary and Charles is a huge hit for

716
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: like the vibes in the house for the group, because

717
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: like Charles is out here teaching tai chi in the

718
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: morning by the pool, Gary's out here ripping his shirt

719
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: off during the stripper date making everyone laugh. Like he

720
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: just seems like he's a.

721
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Total You're losing big personalities and this is the time

722
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: of the show where now everyone's like, Okay, it's getting serious.

723
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: Why my hair again? Because yeah, yeah, definitely, I think

724
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: that's what's happening.

725
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: And it's just like less and less guys to do

726
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: Pascal's laundry and make his food.

727
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we also do see in the teaser I

728
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: can't wait to see, but it looks like Pascal gets

729
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: involved in some shit too.

730
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah well, we will have to stay tuned to see

731
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: how that plays out next week, and you guys will

732
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: have to stay tuned to listen to our interview with

733
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: Mark coming up.

734
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: Yep, thank you so much for listening about your happy Hour.

735
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: Make sure you download and subscribe and we will see

736
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: you soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Bye,