1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: with you. We're back with Lady Dolphin. Her books have 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: a great dream books one and two websites, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: it's all up there at Coast to Coast AM dot com. 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Why do we have nightmares in the first place, Lady, 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: what's the impetus for that? Well, all the dreams, whether 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: their nightmares or not, are triggered at the first level 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: by something that you either thought about yesterday or something 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: that happened to you yesterday. And once you uncover what 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: is the situation that you're discussing with yourself in the 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: dream each and every time, And I'm about to give 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: you some examples to prove the point. Once you understand 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: what the situation is, you find every time a perfect mirror. 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: And this is why I became so obsessed about getting 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: this information out to the general public, because it's shocking 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: the information that we wake up with every single morning. 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: And I developed which I believe you know because we've 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: been together. Actually this is the sixth time that you 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: and I have had a conversation, right I just love 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: getting on the air with you. But I developed six 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: points of entry that anybody can learn and use to 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: uncover why you had that dream last night. They are 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: the feelings, the action, the symbols, the play on words 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: or puns because we use them constantly in our sleep 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: like we do in our waking life, the repetition, and 27 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: the plot. And so I've got some examples that I 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: can give you so that everybody understands exactly what I'm doing. 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead, okay, So this is dream is an example 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: of the feelings, the action, and the symbols. It's a 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: single parent of a five year old son who is 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: on the spectrum, and she dreams that they're at a 33 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: carnival on a merry go round with people that she 34 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: doesn't recognize, and the scene changes they're in an arcade 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: and he has to go to the washroom, so she 36 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: takes him to the ladies room and turns around and 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: realizes her son is gone kidnapped. She feels like she 38 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: knows he's been kidnapped because she noticed a tattooed man 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: hanging around outside the washroom. So she finishes by saying 40 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: that at first she's trying to find money to pay 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: a ransom, but then she's trying to call the police. 42 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: So I'm looking when you hear a dream, you can 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: take any one of the six points of entry that 44 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: you feel attracted to, and all of them work. It 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter which one you choose. They all get you somewhere. 46 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Are they all equally significant too? They are, But it 47 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: depends what grabs your attention, And for me, it was 48 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: the feeling. So I asked her, how did you feel? 49 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: And she said, I went from being a bit uncomfortable 50 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: to being in a panic. And my next question is 51 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: always going to be what situation in your waking life 52 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: this week is making you feel in a similar way 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: that you started out by feeling a bit uncomfortable, and 54 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: now you're finding yourself in a panic. And it's because 55 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: she was offered a job in another state, and she 56 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: says that if I was going to move and have 57 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: a new life with my son, now would be a 58 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: good time to do it. But at her home, her 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: parents lived just a few blocks away, and he's on 60 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: the spectrum and her parents are always available to help. 61 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: So while she's talking, I'm already tapped into the symbol 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 1: of the carousel that's going around because she can't make 63 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: up her mind about which way to turn, whether she 64 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: should move or whether she should stay home closer to 65 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: the family. And and also how she says that she's 66 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: going around this carousel with people that she doesn't recognize, 67 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: and if she moves to another state, that's exactly what's 68 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: going to happen. She's going to be surrounded by people 69 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: who are strangers to her. And when I asked her 70 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: about any associations to tattoos, she said that tattoos remind 71 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: her of gang members. And so the thing about gang 72 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: members is that they stick together. Say what you want 73 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: about a gang, but you know they're sticking together. So 74 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: she's using that image of tattoos and gang members because 75 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: she's trying to make a decision. Is she going to 76 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: stay home close to her parents, which is her gang 77 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the family, or is she going to move away? And 78 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: my quest next question was are you the style of 79 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: person who's talking about this with other people? And she 80 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: said no, I have a tendency to hold things in. 81 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: So this nightmare, this is the main thing I gotta say. 82 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: This nightmare created a plot in which she had no 83 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: alternative but to call for the police, so she calls 84 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: out for help, and the reason she's it's a rehearsal 85 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: to share your feelings, talk about what's bothering you in 86 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: your waking life. And the way that she gets encouraged 87 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: is by the plot, by the scenario that this woman 88 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: creates in her dream. It helps her reach forward to 89 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: ask for help. What do you think? I love it? 90 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: I love it? And is there a solution? In your opinion, Laney, 91 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: In every dream everyone it's there, yet you just have 92 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: to find it one. There's always a nugget there. You 93 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: just have to know how to right right, and that's 94 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: where you come in. Of course, can people do it 95 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: for themselves sometimes too? Absolutely? Let me give you a 96 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: two second dream that I just got a few days 97 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: ago that I absolutely love. A two second dream, well, okay, 98 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: less than a minute, all right. It's a woman who 99 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: dreams she's in a separated space from her husband and 100 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: they have an argument and the dream he starts whipping 101 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: her with a manual saw. Okay, this is an example 102 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: of play on words and puns. She said she felt afraid, 103 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: but mostly she was so confused and she didn't understand 104 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: what the heck why is he whipping her with a 105 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: manual saw, and in fact they were separating, and it 106 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: was all about her discovery, which was a text that 107 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: she saw a conversation that he had with his friends 108 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: saying that the only reason he married her was to 109 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: obtain a green card. Wow. So she was hurt by 110 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: what she saw and she has him in the dream 111 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: whipping her with Emmanuel saw. You see what I mean, 112 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: it's a perfect mirror each and every time. I mean, 113 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: I would have never known that that was the dreamer 114 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: who gave it, who gave it to me? What is 115 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: it about the brain or the subconscious mind or the 116 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: conscious mind that creates that kind of story? That way? 117 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: I love it, And it's got a sense of humor 118 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: that to use the saw, even in fat way when 119 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: you think about what she saw when she read the text, 120 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: really a very well done way of grabbing your attention. 121 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: And her unconscious did succeed because like the relationship is over, 122 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: there's no question about that. Over our previous five interviews, 123 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: now our sixth I may have mentioned this to you, 124 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: but I'll do it again so you can do a 125 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: quick interpretation. For me. It has to do with me. 126 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: It is my recurring nightmare that has since stopped. And 127 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I did to make it stop. 128 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: But I went to the University of Detroit. My dad 129 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: wanted me to become a dentist. I wanted to be 130 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 1: a broadcaster. I did pre dent for two years, switched 131 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: my major into broadcasting, aced all my courses. He got 132 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: the report card, thought there was a mistake, called me 133 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: into the living room and said, you know, we got 134 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: the wrong report card and I said, no, Dad, I 135 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: switched my major in the broadcasting. He wouldn't talk to 136 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: me for two months lay and then one day he 137 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: saw my name pop up. I was nineteen when I 138 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: got my first job in broadcasting. He saw my name 139 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: pop up on a television screen as a rolling credits 140 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: and he said, was that you? And I said, yeah, 141 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: that was me, and he loved it ever since. Now 142 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: now now the dream. I'm working full time at a 143 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: radio station. I'm twenty one years old and I had 144 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: to switch all my college classes to nighttime because I 145 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: was working during the day. And I did that as 146 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: a promise to my father to get my bachelor's degree 147 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: and broadcast journalism in four years. Had I not done that, 148 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: it would have taken me six or seven years, and 149 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: so I still maintained a full curriculum of classes. I 150 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: needed one hundred and twenty eight credit hours to graduate. 151 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I got one hundred and twenty eight credit hours, got 152 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: my diploma, and everything was good. Now here's the dream. 153 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: I would wake up in a sweat that I had 154 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven credit hours and didn't and 155 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: didn't graduate. And this happened for a couple of years. 156 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: I would have this recurring dream. It drove me nuts. 157 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: One day, to solve this problem, I got my college 158 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: diploma from the University of Detroit and put it on 159 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: the table next to my bed so it would be 160 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: the first thing I would see when I would wake up. 161 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: It's right was right by the alarm clock. But I 162 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: just want to interject here that when you would have 163 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: that recurring dream, it actually wasn't about school at all. 164 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: It was about that how you felt in some totally 165 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: other situation. And each time you have the dream it's 166 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: probably about something completely different. But in each every time, 167 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: you feel like you're almost there but not quite coming up, 168 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: coming up a little short discussion with somebody, and you 169 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: say what you think you say. Most of what you 170 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: want to say, but you don't really get across to 171 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: the person, and then you might have a dream where 172 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: you have one hundred and twenty seven credits. Now the 173 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: dreams stopped though, after a few weeks of looking at 174 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: that diploma every morning. Oh that's great. Now you just 175 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: gave us a stunning example of Carl Jung's active imagination. Really, 176 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly what you did. You changed your mind and 177 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: you gave yourself a reminder that you are worth one 178 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight credits. You pass yep, and there 179 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: it was to prove it so smart. Wow, every morning, 180 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: and it went and it went away, Lae, and I 181 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: haven't had this dream in thirty forty years, no, no kidding. Well, 182 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: good for you, bravo. Oh my gosh. But interesting. But 183 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: would you call that a nightmare what I was going through? 184 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely I would and it. But that's why I'm saying 185 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: that during the period of time that you use an 186 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: image like that, saying we're thinking that it's actually is 187 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: about school is not opening the doors wide enough. You 188 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: want to open up the metaphor so that you could 189 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: realize that you use that in some situation where you 190 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: don't feel quite there, not quite there, and hopefully it 191 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: helps you talk about whatever it is that you're feeling 192 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: unfinished about unfinished, that's the right word. 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