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Speaker 1: We'll check in with the Packers coming up. We'll check

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Speaker 1: in with the Cleveland Browns coming up. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to try to digest. You know, sports is

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Speaker 1: often in the public arena. The nation's issues can play

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Speaker 1: out in a very visible way. We've used sports to

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Speaker 1: have another one. The debates about COVID are no exception.

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Speaker 1: And yesterday the NFL world found out that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: back to his status with the Packers in the off season.

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Speaker 1: It was the story of the off season. But this

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Speaker 1: to and talk about. That doesn't mean we have to

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Speaker 1: Whatever your decision is, it's your decision in accordance to

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Speaker 1: your employer, your lifestyle, your family. Aaron Rodgers did what

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Speaker 1: he thought was best for him. He said he was immunized,

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Speaker 1: not vaccinated. Here is the question and the answer back

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Speaker 1: I've been any nice. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at this at all different angles here.

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Speaker 1: now it was holistically. And also it put the Packers

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Speaker 1: you know, the Packers are the ones that are really

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Speaker 1: But what role did they play in this in trying

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Speaker 1: But what did the Packers know? And what did they

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Speaker 1: I would expect the Packers to get dinged pretty hard

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Speaker 1: But the bigger issue here is what did the Packers know?

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Speaker 1: DP show. Hopefully Rogers in the NFL can use this

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Speaker 1: a defense. But you know, for teams like Tennessee came

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Speaker 1: in and just got you know, they just weren't ready

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Speaker 1: for it and just fell apart. So it kind of

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Speaker 1: depends who you bring in and which team. But I

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Speaker 1: tend to think it's only a factor if it's just

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Speaker 1: brutally cold, you know, if it's just like zero degrees

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Speaker 1: and it hasn't been like that in a while. And

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Speaker 1: even even then, if you remember, Jim Harborough brought a

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Speaker 1: team in the playoffs and it was just ghastly cold

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Speaker 1: and they beat the Packers. So I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: like a cure. All. It's that Rogers because he's so

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Speaker 1: skilled and able to play in the cold, that that's

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Speaker 1: why they went. It was the same with far great stuff. Tom.

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Speaker 1: I know you got a busy day ahead of you.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time as always. Yeah, it was great

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Speaker 1: even with you take care of that's Tom Silverstun' been

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Speaker 1: covering the Packers for thirty years kept bringing up far

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, PTSD and look, he may be,

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Speaker 1: you know, correct in saying that. You know, I'm naive

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Speaker 1: to think that Rogers actually thought that he was protected here.

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Speaker 1: But you know Rogers, if you're around him, he has

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Speaker 1: fun with words. He thinks he's going to be the

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Speaker 1: smartest guy in the room. And I don't think he

447
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Speaker 1: would go in there unless he was purposely being vague

448
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Speaker 1: and then seeing if any packer reporter would go you said, immunize,

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00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: not vaccinated, but nobody did, and we can all look

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00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: back on that now. I think at them in the moment,

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Speaker 1: it was, you know, the story was Rogers was coming back.

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Speaker 1: It's not, oh he's not vaccinated. And sometimes you look

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Speaker 1: at the big the bigger picture, and you miss out

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Speaker 1: on the minutia. And that might have been the case

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Speaker 1: because there are probably a lot of packer beat writers

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Speaker 1: who are going, god, I didn't question that. Yeah. See,

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Speaker 1: And if you go back now, looking from like November

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty with the CBA, Aaron Rodgers quit being

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Speaker 1: the union rep for the packers because he was so

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Speaker 1: unhappy with how those negotiations went, which I'm going to

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Speaker 1: assume had some COVID implications getting into it right, And

462
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Speaker 1: so he talked about the process and how he didn't

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Speaker 1: like the way that there are players were underrepresented and

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Speaker 1: you know, all these different things and meetings. So he quit, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if there's any fall out. You know, Tom

466
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Speaker 1: didn't think that anything was going to happen to the Packers.

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Speaker 1: I was told differently that the league is and he's right,

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Speaker 1: the league, the NFL might be complicit in this too,

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Speaker 1: because if you're able to see and you have access

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Speaker 1: to all the video in there, cameras in there, and

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Speaker 1: was anybody aware of Aaron Rodgers not wearing a mask?

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Speaker 1: Did other teammates get sick because of Aaron Rodgers? With

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Speaker 1: the third string quarterback Davante Adams, Alan Luzar like, these

474
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Speaker 1: are all questions that are going to be asked today

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Speaker 1: or they were probably asked yesterday. Yeap, yesterday. Matt Lafleura,

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Speaker 1: the Packers head coach, talked. He didn't give you much,

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Speaker 1: but he did his normal media time. If you're a

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Speaker 1: Packers management, would you talk today and then never bring

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Speaker 1: it up again, or would you say like we're on lockdown?

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Speaker 1: I would just say, look, we're exploring everything, but we

481
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Speaker 1: believe that we did everything the right way. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: get in front of the media because then they start

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Speaker 1: if you give them the opportunity to start picking apart

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Speaker 1: your answers. You don't want to put any blame on

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers if your management, because then it's not going

486
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Speaker 1: to go well bigger picture here unless Jordan Love plays

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Speaker 1: really well on Sunday and then they're like, yeah, that

488
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: was all on Aaron, not on us. Yeah, it's mclen exactly.

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Speaker 1: Matt Laflour could not have been more backing of his

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Speaker 1: quarterback as I was thinking it was an offseason negotiation.

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Speaker 1: So what's your take on this game this weekend? Is

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Speaker 1: Jordan Loved trying out in a sense probably for the nation,

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Speaker 1: you know, the football world watching Jordan Love. This is

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Speaker 1: your coming out party. You're facing a Chief's defense that's

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Speaker 1: not good. The Chiefs are struggling. It's you against the

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Speaker 1: guy that there were some draft comps with that he

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Speaker 1: was sort of mahomes in when he was playing in college.

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Speaker 1: This is your moment. Do they have all their weapons back?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, We'll check right. That's really important because

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Speaker 1: you can face the Chiefs, and that Chief's defense isn't

501
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Speaker 1: very good. You gotta have your weapons to face that

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Speaker 1: Chiefs team. Yeahmick Clevin, it's a huge game for the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs too. I think that's being lost a little bit. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is like you went from a one point favorite

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Speaker 1: to an eight point favorite. That's the value of Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: You pall which storyline would have more fallout if Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love played horrendously not bad, but horrendous, or he played

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Speaker 1: like Mike Whiten's debut and lights out and tore up

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs one of the two, not in between, which

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Speaker 1: would have more legs? Well, either way you're looking at

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Speaker 1: do you need to keep Rogers or we gotta keep Rogers.

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Speaker 1: It feels like that's going to be the referendum on Monday.

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Speaker 1: It'll be Man and Packers they got their future? Or

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Speaker 1: oh boy, how do we keep Aaron Rodgers? Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anyone has been watching the Jets. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anyone has a sense of who Zach Wilson is

517
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Speaker 1: or Mike White. I think the Packard has got a

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Speaker 1: lot more attention, Like if Zach Wilson, Yeah, there's more

519
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: at stake nobody cares about the Jets. But yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just national TV. But I know he was a

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Speaker 1: number two overall pick, but he's still such a mystery

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Speaker 1: to the national audience. Yeah, and you know, I talked

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Speaker 1: about this, that that he would be the one that

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Speaker 1: would be the bust because he's with that organization and

525
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Speaker 1: you're the number two pick overall, And it kind of

526
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. When you think about him in college,

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Speaker 1: he had a great final year. These one year wonders,

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Speaker 1: that's where it's really hard to handicap and say, like

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, that's a pretty good sample size Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: one year wonder. Whereas receivers the reason why he was

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Speaker 1: great justin fields, you know, Ohio State. You didn't have

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Speaker 1: to throw receivers open Trey Lance. That's tricky one year wonder.

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Speaker 1: And that's why when you talk to scouts, or at

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Speaker 1: least the scouts that I talked to, you know, you're

535
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: trying to they go back to high school like they're

536
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Speaker 1: trying to just get enough of a sample size to

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Speaker 1: find out how good you are, how dedicated you are.

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Speaker 1: You get in there early, do you leave late? Like

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Speaker 1: all of those intangible things. Those are really important because

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Speaker 1: you might be talented, and you can be talented in college,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of times you're surrounded by a lot

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Speaker 1: of talent. And certainly at Alabama and Ohio State, Trey

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00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Lance not playing big time football but playing FCS at

544
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Speaker 1: a very high rate. And he was unbelievable, didn't throw

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Speaker 1: an interception, But okay, how would he do in the SEC?

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Speaker 1: Like these are the questions that they ask, like, man,

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot of talent. Okay, but what's the

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Speaker 1: mean how's that translate? And I don't know if Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson is going to translate. I mean, if he does great.

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Speaker 1: If you said who's going to be a bust? I

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Speaker 1: would probably say Zach Wilson. If you were going to

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Speaker 1: single out one of these quarterbacks, yeah, point. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at Zach Wilson, you think in your head,

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Speaker 1: well he's a rookie. They're gonna give him time. He's

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Speaker 1: got a long contract or that rookie deal. But you

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Speaker 1: go back to and this is Apple's and orangist Josh

557
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: in Arizona. They gave him one season with a bad team,

558
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: a bad line. He didn't play well. They didn't play well,

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Speaker 1: and when they stumbled into the first pick and Kyler

560
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Speaker 1: Murray was available, all bets were off. The Jets may

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Speaker 1: not have a guy. Let's say the Jets were the

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Speaker 1: worsteam in the NFL this year, Well, there's no quarterback

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Speaker 1: for them to take right. Plus you had Cliff Kingsbury available.

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Speaker 1: It was a perfect storm in Arizona. We can bring

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Speaker 1: in Cliff Kingsbury. He loves Kyler Murray, He's coach Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray before. And you know, Josh Rosen is expendable. But

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen wasn't the number one pick overall, was the

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Speaker 1: tenth pick, So that it seems like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: we got to give up on the tenth pick. You

570
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Speaker 1: don't want to give up on the first, second, or third,

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Speaker 1: in particular, if you've traded to get into that position.

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance has to be great, not good great. Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson has to be great. Trevor Lawrence has to be great.

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Speaker 1: wonder if the Cleveland Browns move on from Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield by the end of this season. I

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Speaker 1: just I wonder that and we'll check in with the

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Speaker 1: Browns coming up a little bit later on, we'll come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll settle on our poll question. I got an update

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Speaker 1: on the Green Bay Packers depleted roster, the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: up on Pro Football Talk on Odell Beckham Junior. By

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Speaker 1: and then he could pick the team that he wants

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Speaker 1: to go to. It could be a great strategy by

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, but we'll check in with the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: coming up. The Green Bay Packers were without their top

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Speaker 1: three wideouts for last week's game, Davante Adams, the loan receiver,

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Speaker 1: not practicing. He continues to recover from COVID, but Matt

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Speaker 1: Lafleur said that he has a rough return date of

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Speaker 1: today if uncertain. It's uncertain if Adams will recover in

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Speaker 1: time to play against the Chiefs. Marquez Valdez, Scantling, and

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Speaker 1: Alan Lazard appear to be on track after practicing. Lizard

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Speaker 1: had been on the reserve COVID nineteen list. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it. But if if you're looking at

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Speaker 1: do I want to go all in on Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: and the Packers. There are parlay bets Mike White. Here's

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Speaker 1: the bet tonight. Did we make these up? Pauling? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We put these together because you it's hard to find

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Speaker 1: quarterback bets over unders. You could find some stats bets.

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Speaker 1: What we kind of used our We crunched our own number. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if I gave you over under Mike White tonight two

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Speaker 1: and a half touchdowns against the Colts over under two

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Speaker 1: hundred of many five yards, yes, McLevin under. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna say that's one half or Mike White classic,

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Speaker 1: Mike m the White, Mike White. We know, Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: over under one and a half touchdowns over under two

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Speaker 1: twenty five passing yards, chiefs defense, Jordan Love. Anybody want

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Speaker 1: the over? Paulie does, Fritzie does. Okay, one and a

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Speaker 1: half touchdowns over two twenty five Okay, I could see

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Speaker 1: that happening before I could Mike White. I mean, those

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Speaker 1: are pretty good numbers. And the Colts have a respectable defense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where they rank, but they have a

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Speaker 1: respectable defense. But once again, those are our prop bets

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Speaker 1: on the two quarterbacks there, mcleove and the poll question,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go with his. I put up for our one,

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Speaker 1: who is the most confusing veteran quarterback in the UTA?

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Speaker 1: Foulu your choices where Baker Mayfield, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: or Jimmy g And there's a runaway? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: you could guess who it is. Who is the most

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Speaker 1: confusing guy who puts up huge numbers but still no one.

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Speaker 1: Kirk D Cousins. Yeah, Kirk D Cousins fifty seven percent.

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Speaker 1: Baker second at only is his middle name begin with

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Speaker 1: the D? Who knows? Because the reason why I brought

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Speaker 1: this up, I had somebody who was questioning one of

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Speaker 1: my stories that I had when Kirk Cousins with Washington,

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Speaker 1: and I was saying Kirk Cousins. And then I had

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Speaker 1: somebody in the Washington media. I don't know who he is,

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Speaker 1: but I had a source about the wide receivers didn't

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Speaker 1: want to play with Kirk Cousins in Washington. And so

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Speaker 1: I had this guy call me out and says he

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Speaker 1: doesn't even know how to pronounce Kirk Cousin's name, and

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Speaker 1: I went, Okay, I'm just gonna throw in Kirk D.

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Speaker 1: Cousins just so I can make sure that I have

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Speaker 1: the correct pronunciation here. Therefore, is my story correct if

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Speaker 1: I know how to pronounce Kirk D. Cousin's name. But

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Speaker 1: the source was inable. That's you know that there were

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Speaker 1: wide receivers rolling their eyes with Kirk Cousins in Washington.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I reported. And I never heard from

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Speaker 1: this person. If he had followed up with me, I

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Speaker 1: would have said, look, this is coming from somebody you

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Speaker 1: know and back off. Yeah, Polly Dan, if you remember

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Speaker 1: the day of that show, we reached out to a linguist,

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Speaker 1: a professor at the university, and he said, you were

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Speaker 1: not wrong. In the way you pronounced Kirk Cousins, because

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Speaker 1: when you say quickly, the last cave of Kirk and

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Speaker 1: the first sea of Cousins are almost redundant. So the

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Speaker 1: natural thing your tongue does is press him into one

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Speaker 1: Kirk Daniel Cousins. Yes, Kirk d Cousins Junior. The third Yes, McLevin.

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Speaker 1: That is a tricky fan base. I am not surprised

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Speaker 1: a local media. Oh, I know, but I look. I

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Speaker 1: remember when I was covering the Washington where they were

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Speaker 1: the Redskins then with thisman, those guys, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a wonderful team. But man, that's a college town.

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Speaker 1: Like they they they cover the Washington football team like

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Speaker 1: Columbus does, Ohio State or Green Bay does the Packers.

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Speaker 1: There's certain NFL you know media, uh that they cover

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Speaker 1: it in the fan base is more you know, collegiate

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Speaker 1: than any other place. Yeah, I'm club. When I was

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Speaker 1: at Sports Illustrated, we get five hundred angry Washington emails

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Speaker 1: a week, like Peter Kingwood Like, it's a very angry

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Speaker 1: fan base. Oh, I know, they're very passion that's a yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. But you know, sometimes the media

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Speaker 1: is more team friendly. You know, you get access if

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Speaker 1: you're more team friendly, and that that's what happens in college.

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Speaker 1: You want to air to the side of the team

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Speaker 1: that you're covering. You don't want to be that guy

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Speaker 1: who's the fly in the ointment, like okay, like at

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Lipper trying to win a Pulitzer. I mean, it'd

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Speaker 1: be tough covering the Packers. I mean that that's that's

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Speaker 1: what you have in that state. You love your Packers,

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Speaker 1: and if you're covering it, you might lean towards the

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Speaker 1: team more than you would somebody else. It's covering to

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Speaker 1: college football too. Yeah, Philadelphia is the opposite. They could

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Speaker 1: be fourteen to two and the quarterbacks gotta go all

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Speaker 1: the time, the quarters gotta go. Yeah, they're gonna find

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Speaker 1: a negative, you know, they're you know, same with New York,

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Speaker 1: you know, but that's what sells. You know, some are

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Speaker 1: more of the cheerleaders. Let's celebrate this, whereas some media

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Speaker 1: cities centers are like, what's the negative here? Well, that's

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Speaker 1: what sells, all right. One hour in the books, two

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Speaker 1: more to go. As I said, we'll check in with

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Do they release Odell Beckham? You know

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Speaker 1: this is still a Super Bowl caliber team. Can you

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Speaker 1: afford to release him? Can you afford to not release him?

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Speaker 1: What's Baker Mayfield's future here? Try to answer all those questions.

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