Speaker 1: Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon, a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Shane Bacon, and got a real
Speaker 1: special one today. Honor to have this man on the
Speaker 1: podcast for the first time. Lieutenant Colonel Dan Rooney joins
Speaker 1: the Clubhouse. Of course, the man behind folds of honor
Speaker 1: and has served our country and is I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: one of the most positive humans I've ever chatted with
Speaker 1: or encountered. This is my second time being around him.
Speaker 1: It's infectious when you're in his presence, even his voicemail,
Speaker 1: which you know, voicemails are the worst things in the world.
Speaker 1: Nobody likes to leave them, Nobody likes to record their
Speaker 1: own voicemail messages. And Dan Rooney has a positive voicemail
Speaker 1: message when you call. That is unheard of. So pump
Speaker 1: to have Dan on. He's got a new book out
Speaker 1: today called Fly into the Wind, and I think you're
Speaker 1: going to really enjoy the book. I think you're really
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy the conversation about life and and what came
Speaker 1: out of this book and a lot of golf stuff
Speaker 1: in it. Of course, he's a huge golf for a
Speaker 1: plus handicap, a ton of talents that he's been playing
Speaker 1: a ton of golf during quarantine. So real honor to
Speaker 1: chat with somebody like Dan Rooney, who, again I just think,
Speaker 1: is is really a model for you know, America. He's
Speaker 1: an unbelievable person and what he's done throughout his career,
Speaker 1: in his life and what he continues to do is
Speaker 1: uh is really really impressive stuff. So big thanks to Dan.
Speaker 1: So I haven't touched on Dustin Johnson's win on Sunday
Speaker 1: at the Masters, and I just wanted to speak on
Speaker 1: a couple of things with Dustin. You know, it's the
Speaker 1: second major title. Before Sunday, it was all about his
Speaker 1: major misses and very little, if any about how many
Speaker 1: times he's closed in non majors, which brings me to
Speaker 1: my point. So, the modern world of golf, I feel
Speaker 1: like needs a bigger weight to the mon non major events.
Speaker 1: And I'll explain the Trial Championship this year for instance.
Speaker 1: Right in twenty five years, when we look back on
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson's career, the Travelers Championship win in two thousand
Speaker 1: twenty isn't gonna stand out. I mean, he's got FedEx
Speaker 1: Cup titles and w GC titles and now a Masters
Speaker 1: in the US Open and FedEx Cup. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of these big time wins, and he's
Speaker 1: won in Rivieria, and you know, he's one. He's finished
Speaker 1: the season with wins. He's he's even one international. So
Speaker 1: something like the Travelers Championship in two thousand twenty is
Speaker 1: going to get lost. That's just inevitable. But the strength
Speaker 1: of field at the Travelers Championship this year was the
Speaker 1: same strength of field as the Masters. Now, winning the
Speaker 1: Travelers Championship to these players and to the media and
Speaker 1: golf fans isn't as big. It isn't as big a
Speaker 1: career achievement as winning a Green jacket, but it's as
Speaker 1: hard in terms of who you have to beat as
Speaker 1: it is winning two Masters. What I'm starting to think
Speaker 1: is we need to have some sort of a five
Speaker 1: star system or a weighted system like a letter grade
Speaker 1: and a event, a B event, a C, e vent
Speaker 1: a D event that helps people like me know how
Speaker 1: big a win was. I need to see something tangible
Speaker 1: to understand the modern victory because major championships became major
Speaker 1: back in the day because that was the time everybody
Speaker 1: came together, I mean the Europeans, Australians, Asian players, the
Speaker 1: studs from South Africa, all around the world, they would
Speaker 1: all converge to play a US Open or Masters or
Speaker 1: occasionally a PGA Championship. Even that took a while for
Speaker 1: all the players to get that interested in, especially international players,
Speaker 1: and of course the Open Championship which been around forever.
Speaker 1: So that was why those those events were considered major championships.
Speaker 1: That was the biggest event with the best players and
Speaker 1: the most international field. Well we get that all the
Speaker 1: time now. International players live in America. They called the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour their main tour. When you play a Travelers
Speaker 1: Championship and you have these studs from Australia and the
Speaker 1: great players from Europe and Rory and Dustin and Justin
Speaker 1: and all the all the names that you'd expect to
Speaker 1: be at big events, I feel like that would be,
Speaker 1: if you look through a weighted system, a five star win,
Speaker 1: just like winning at Riviera would be a five star win.
Speaker 1: Winning so many of the tournaments that Dustin has won
Speaker 1: in his career. So that's my first point is the
Speaker 1: majors are still the majors. And I'm not discounting the
Speaker 1: fact that it is a bigger deal to win a
Speaker 1: major than it is to win other events. I just
Speaker 1: think that with the way golf is now, especially the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour, it's tough to win any event, and it
Speaker 1: is imperative that we explain why, because it's gonna get
Speaker 1: lost in history. The Travelers Championship two thousand TWENTI is
Speaker 1: going to get lost in history. We're gonna forget that.
Speaker 1: The pandemic caused golf to shut down for you know,
Speaker 1: three months, and then it returned and we had a
Speaker 1: couple of events, and then everybody who was playing on everything,
Speaker 1: so all those wins were probably wins and a half, Right,
Speaker 1: is how tough it was to do that. Another point
Speaker 1: to be made, And a friend of mine made this
Speaker 1: to me the other day, and I thought it was
Speaker 1: such a great point. Dustin Johnson one on the easiest
Speaker 1: golf course the PGA Tour played this year. Right, it
Speaker 1: was a super soft event in Boston. He shoots thirty under.
Speaker 1: He almost won the week before on one of the
Speaker 1: toughest golf courses the PGA Tour played. You know, he
Speaker 1: shouldn't compete on these real tight, fairly short golf courses.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. Every golf course is winnable for
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson. I don't think you can say that about
Speaker 1: anybody else in the world. I truly don't you can
Speaker 1: say that about Tiger. Of course, Tiger went everywhere, but
Speaker 1: Tiger won a lot at the same place as Tiger
Speaker 1: won a lot of the courses that he liked. Now
Speaker 1: Dustin has done something similar. He loves Rivieria. I mean
Speaker 1: that's a golf course that simply suits his eye. He
Speaker 1: loves Pebble Beach, a golf course that suits his eye.
Speaker 1: But when you start to look into his victories, he
Speaker 1: has one on all different types of golf courses that
Speaker 1: typically play into the hands of non Dustin looking players.
Speaker 1: And the only other point I want to make, and
Speaker 1: again this is to try to help us understand how
Speaker 1: impressive certain players are outside of the majors, because we're
Speaker 1: so obsessed with how many major wins you have. Is
Speaker 1: the world ranking, the world rankings, And I bring this
Speaker 1: up because Destin Johnson, of course the world number one.
Speaker 1: He's about to be world number one for his hundred
Speaker 1: and fourth week of his career. Rory is at a
Speaker 1: hundred and six weeks and uh, and then you look
Speaker 1: up ahead of that and you've got Greg Norman, and
Speaker 1: of course you've got Tiger Woods at a number that
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna catch. It's crazy. Dustin is two twenty weeks
Speaker 1: behind Greg Norman's number. That's about four and a half
Speaker 1: years of being a world number one. It's an outside shot.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a decent shot that he's going
Speaker 1: to catch that at some point if he stays healthy
Speaker 1: and he stays committed, and it sure seems like he's
Speaker 1: he's only going to get better, right, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: only gonna get easier for him to feel And I
Speaker 1: don't even want to say feel comfortable in these moments,
Speaker 1: because I think he feels comfortable in any moment. But
Speaker 1: just winning another major helps him win more majors. I
Speaker 1: feel so the world ranking, a modern look at a player,
Speaker 1: also helps us understand how impressive Dustin is. And when
Speaker 1: you start to look at things like that, and you
Speaker 1: start to look at the quality of his victories outside
Speaker 1: of the major championships, I feel like the argument can
Speaker 1: be made that Dustin is the best player of this generation.
Speaker 1: You know, post Tiger, post VJ. You have Rory with
Speaker 1: more majors, you have Brooks Capto with more majors, you
Speaker 1: have Jordan's speed with one of the greatest seasons in
Speaker 1: the history of golf. But what Dustin has done consistently
Speaker 1: and for his entire career is something that we need
Speaker 1: to appreciate, and I feel like we don't give enough
Speaker 1: credit to consistency is something film. You know, we we
Speaker 1: love to to bag on Phil Nicholson for never being
Speaker 1: world number one and never winning a FedEx Cup and
Speaker 1: never finished in the season, you know, with with I
Speaker 1: feel like he's never had the money title either to
Speaker 1: finish the season. But Phil's consistency since the early nineties
Speaker 1: is something you can't compare with the Tiger and with
Speaker 1: an Ernie and with a VJ. It's not what Fils was.
Speaker 1: So Phil's consistency I feel like bumps him up a
Speaker 1: little bit in terms of his career. And I feel
Speaker 1: like Dustin is gonna be the same way. He should
Speaker 1: be the same way. And while it is quote unquote
Speaker 1: only two majors, what he has done in his career
Speaker 1: is as impressive is anybody else that has played since Tiger.
Speaker 1: I believe that and I think when you look past
Speaker 1: some of the obvious things like his how many US opens,
Speaker 1: how many masters as he wanted open? Has he won
Speaker 1: a p G, A, no and no? Still he has
Speaker 1: all these other examples to showcase his career. And so
Speaker 1: that was my point. I just wanted to bring up
Speaker 1: a little thing about Dustin. I feel like that was
Speaker 1: that was what I wanted to say. I just had
Speaker 1: a couple of points to be made. I feel like
Speaker 1: we need to focus on those two things I would love.
Speaker 1: I love the idea of a five star rating of
Speaker 1: of events, so you kind of know what you're getting
Speaker 1: when you go into the event, but who knows if
Speaker 1: that will happen. That would be awesome. Uh that's that.
Speaker 1: Let's get to our interview with Dan Rooney. I know
Speaker 1: you've been thrilled and I'm assuming you have these pinch
Speaker 1: me moments still despite how you know, known you are
Speaker 1: and what you've done in your career. You've got a
Speaker 1: golf course that you had Jack Nicholas help redesign American
Speaker 1: Dunes Course in Grand Haven, Michigan. I know you're really
Speaker 1: really excited. A lot of support goes goes to Folds
Speaker 1: of Honor, with this project, Jack waived his his design fee.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just such a such a blessing to
Speaker 1: have a friend like Jack Nicholas doing these awesome things
Speaker 1: in support of what you're doing. Yeah, and that's a
Speaker 1: great word. It's a blessing. And again I love tying
Speaker 1: it back because this is a story in the book
Speaker 1: and the chapter's force multiply and the concept of force multiply,
Speaker 1: you know, by the military um perspective is you know,
Speaker 1: it's one plus one is not equal to right. It's
Speaker 1: when you can bring a group together that equals much
Speaker 1: a much larger sum of impact. And the other part
Speaker 1: of that so cool in the book is we've talked
Speaker 1: about before about how often things have to be you know,
Speaker 1: in the ashes, kind of like The Greatest Showman, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies of all time. My buddies call
Speaker 1: me that, by the way, the Greatest Showman, because I
Speaker 1: have to completely destroy things in order for God to
Speaker 1: build them back up. And this golf course is our
Speaker 1: family golf course for twenty years. It's where we started
Speaker 1: Folds of Honor. But it was on fumes. It was
Speaker 1: not a good situation, and I went to Jack and
Speaker 1: proposed this idea of American Dunes to completely reimagine um
Speaker 1: the old Grand Haven Golf Club which sits in pure
Speaker 1: sand dunes on Lake Michigan. Unbelievable site. Um. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know he said yes and waved his three million
Speaker 1: dollar fee and put together a bunch of my friends
Speaker 1: and his friends. But has been a total fly into
Speaker 1: the wind moment for two and a half years. Um.
Speaker 1: Massive challenges which again this this linear equation in life.
Speaker 1: If you want to do something great, just get ready
Speaker 1: for the suck factor to be crazy high. Right, It
Speaker 1: just is That is the way life works. And so
Speaker 1: it to do it with Jack, total pinch me moment um.
Speaker 1: But you know, day to day raising the money to
Speaker 1: do this, saying all kinds of challenges along the way.
Speaker 1: But it goes back to that concept, right when you
Speaker 1: fly into the wind, that resistance ultimately allows you to ascend.
Speaker 1: And we'll open American Dunes on May second, and this
Speaker 1: place is going to be like nothing that has ever
Speaker 1: happened in the game of golf, and its mission certainly
Speaker 1: is to create awareness and raise money for Folds of Honor.
Speaker 1: The golf that Jack has designed there and the sand
Speaker 1: dunes is he used the term mystical. Um, it's going
Speaker 1: to take its place um in in rare air in
Speaker 1: the golf rankings. I'm convinced to that. But really the
Speaker 1: impact of this place is what it stands for. And
Speaker 1: you'll onboard American Dunes. The only way to get into
Speaker 1: the site is through the Folds of Honor Memorial and
Speaker 1: you'll actually walk in the bootprints that are cast in
Speaker 1: the cement of soldiers who have been killed an action,
Speaker 1: whose families are Folds of Honor recipients. And that's this
Speaker 1: big nine foot open air tunnel that tells the story
Speaker 1: of these families and the significance of this golf course.
Speaker 1: And I always use the analogy like when you walk
Speaker 1: into a church, no one has to tell you to
Speaker 1: lower your voice. And that is the reverence of what
Speaker 1: American Dunes in is. And you know, Jack and I
Speaker 1: would call the church. People come to a church, they
Speaker 1: make a pilgrimage because it's something they stand for, they
Speaker 1: want to be connected to. And there's so many beautiful
Speaker 1: layers and American Dunes and it's you know, it's a
Speaker 1: public golf course, um, and we're so excited to you know,
Speaker 1: do our Hello world with American Dunes in in May
Speaker 1: of one, and I hope, I hope you will come
Speaker 1: and join us and uh and see this place next
Speaker 1: year and get out of the heat there in Arizona
Speaker 1: in the summer. I've looked at some pictures online, and
Speaker 1: you know, everybody that opens a new golf course loves
Speaker 1: to tout it, as they should, they should be very
Speaker 1: excited about it. But the pictures of this place, I mean,
Speaker 1: it looks next level day and this place looks like
Speaker 1: crazy good. It's it is, it is. I mean, it
Speaker 1: literally is crazy good. And you know Jack has you know,
Speaker 1: shared with me it's it's in the you know, in
Speaker 1: the absolute top sites that he's ever had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to be an architect on. And it's and it's really
Speaker 1: very unjacklike, um, really organic, and it's in the dunes,
Speaker 1: and um, it is just wildly special. And he is
Speaker 1: he's just done an incredible job up there. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's excited to see it. I need to ask about
Speaker 1: Folds of Honor. I know you've you know, talked a
Speaker 1: million times about folds. You know, it's something you came
Speaker 1: up with. It is it is an American story, as
Speaker 1: I feel like so many American stories are these days.
Speaker 1: It's started in a garage. You know, you you you
Speaker 1: raised a million dollars your first year. You've improved lives
Speaker 1: and what you're doing. Can you just talk about that
Speaker 1: story of of you coming up with Folds of Honor
Speaker 1: and how you came up with it and where it
Speaker 1: is today in terms of what you guys are doing
Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty and beyond. Yeah, I mean, folds
Speaker 1: is It's my essence, right, um, it is. It's my
Speaker 1: calling from God. I have no doubt and my dream
Speaker 1: grown up, I'm gonna be a fighter pilot in golf
Speaker 1: pro And I had no idea. God was just putting
Speaker 1: those two things together in a unique way to to
Speaker 1: open this stilhor called Folds of Honor. And you, I
Speaker 1: mean you said that we started a vote garage, I
Speaker 1: mean with nothing thirteen years ago. And our mission I
Speaker 1: wrote it down and it was to honor the sacrifice
Speaker 1: by educating the legacy. So translated that scholarships to spouses
Speaker 1: and children who have had somebody killed or disabled defending
Speaker 1: our freedoms. You know, suffices to say, I've I've done
Speaker 1: three tours of duty in Iraq as an F sixteen
Speaker 1: pilot and I've seen firsthand and freedom may free UM
Speaker 1: and UH. I ended up back home actually going to
Speaker 1: Grand Haven Golf Club which is now American Dunes, and
Speaker 1: was on a commercial airline flight with Corporal Brad Bucklin
Speaker 1: who was bringing his identical twin brother, Corporal Brock Bucklin
Speaker 1: home and been killed in Iraq. And Brock had a
Speaker 1: four year old son, and I watched them on the
Speaker 1: tarmac um that night and literally felt God saying on
Speaker 1: my shoulder and said, hey, you need to help this
Speaker 1: this kid. And UM that has turned into now twenty
Speaker 1: thousand scholarships. We've awarded about a hundred and thirty million
Speaker 1: dollars and UH in the last thirteen years. And again
Speaker 1: when we talk about the deepest meaning in life is
Speaker 1: when something you love can manifest its way and makes
Speaker 1: a difference. And that is you know, my relationship with
Speaker 1: the game of golf and still are by far our
Speaker 1: biggest national fundraisers Patriot Golf Day over a Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 1: We literally have a you know, a couple of million
Speaker 1: people tee it up. We asked him to donate at
Speaker 1: least an extra dollar when they play. We'd raised several
Speaker 1: million dollars thanks or a partnership with PG of America
Speaker 1: and the U. S g A on on that one. UM.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's just an awesome ministry. I mean,
Speaker 1: it really is taking care of these families, the children
Speaker 1: in the spouses. And you know, one thing that we
Speaker 1: really started to talk about this year that I've never
Speaker 1: had before, UM, based on you know what's happening in
Speaker 1: our recipients are minorities, and humble opinion of one with
Speaker 1: you know, all the racial injustice and inequality in this country,
Speaker 1: that education is um the only lasting bridge to equality
Speaker 1: in this country, and Folds is really proud to be
Speaker 1: doing something that's making a difference, not just you know,
Speaker 1: being piste off and angry, uh and doing things that
Speaker 1: aren't always that productive, but rather investing in the education
Speaker 1: of minority families so you know they can go live
Speaker 1: the American dream and contribute. We're going to take a
Speaker 1: quick break and be right back. When you first put
Speaker 1: this together and you're you know, throwing ideas against the
Speaker 1: wall and trying to come up with ways to raise
Speaker 1: money and raise awareness, did you ever think golf would
Speaker 1: play this bigger role in what you're doing, because you
Speaker 1: already mentioned some of the players that you're good friends
Speaker 1: with that you know, wear it on their sleeve and
Speaker 1: and they're they're so proud to be associated with it.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's Patriot Golf Day, and it's
Speaker 1: it's these golf courses that donate money and all these
Speaker 1: players donating their time. Are you surprised how how impactful
Speaker 1: golf has been in and as you mentioned your ministry here, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think humbled is the word, right and and it
Speaker 1: is when you The only explanation for this, right, um,
Speaker 1: is that you know, when you're on the right path
Speaker 1: in your life, when you're aligned with where God wants you,
Speaker 1: there's extraordinary things that can happen. And this is you know,
Speaker 1: folds of honor. Is that the perfect terrible if you will,
Speaker 1: as an example for that. You know, I talk about
Speaker 1: it in the book, and you know it's a really
Speaker 1: key step that I challenge people in in the book.
Speaker 1: Fly into the wind is um. We call it in
Speaker 1: the Fighter pot World slow down to speed up. In
Speaker 1: the very first chapter, UM forces people to really look
Speaker 1: at their lives and be like, hey, am I where
Speaker 1: I want to be? Am I aligned? With what I
Speaker 1: should be doing, UM in my heart. And you know
Speaker 1: if you are you're not. You feel that unrest, you
Speaker 1: feel that uneasiness. That's God pushing you in a direction.
Speaker 1: But you've got to slow down enough and really be
Speaker 1: intentional about where you want to get to. UM. And
Speaker 1: then I identify that in your life. And as I said, unpacking,
Speaker 1: you know the rest of the lines of effort in
Speaker 1: the book. The thing that I love about the magic
Speaker 1: in there is they stack on one another to help
Speaker 1: you get to that place. UM. But again, so often
Speaker 1: life just happens, and UM, I'm just you know, when
Speaker 1: I feel it in my heart, I know where I
Speaker 1: want to go, and God put folds of honor in
Speaker 1: my heart. You know, all glory to Him for getting
Speaker 1: at where it is. UM. But you still, we've been,
Speaker 1: as we call it in our world, single target track.
Speaker 1: I mean every day, getting up at seven days a
Speaker 1: week and getting in the fight on behalf of these families.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end it with a golf question, a topical
Speaker 1: golf question, Dan, So I'm excited to hear your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this. There's been one day night, there's been one
Speaker 1: player that has taken over the PGA Tour in two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty. I know here, you know I'm talking about here.
Speaker 1: It's been a guy that has transformed his body and
Speaker 1: is at a distance and muscle and it's Bryson's shambo.
Speaker 1: What is what have your thoughts been watching this transformation
Speaker 1: of a guy that not only has changed who he
Speaker 1: is in and around golf, but is now changing the
Speaker 1: way the best in world approach golf. I mean he's
Speaker 1: he's literally breaking golf. I think over the last eighteen months,
Speaker 1: how has it been for you watching what Bryson has
Speaker 1: been able to do? So it's awesome. So Bryson is
Speaker 1: a good buddy. Um a little moment of synchronicity that
Speaker 1: ties us together. So he won his first professional tournament
Speaker 1: tournament wearing Volition America, which is you know, the clothing
Speaker 1: brand that I designed, that Puma make and it gives
Speaker 1: back to folds. So we were connected there. But to
Speaker 1: to watch him and I love this is don't be
Speaker 1: a prisoner of common assumption in your life. And that's
Speaker 1: that is what I love. His his reckless um attitude
Speaker 1: toward conventional wisdom. And it is so easy to get
Speaker 1: boxed in by other people. So easy to get boxed
Speaker 1: in by yourself. And when someone comes in and just
Speaker 1: you know, smashes the glass, um and looks at things
Speaker 1: completely differently. I mean, it's just so exciting, right, and
Speaker 1: it transcends golf, right, What a lesson for all of
Speaker 1: us in every facet of our lives to evaluate what
Speaker 1: we're doing and what makes sense, what doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: and don't be a prisoner of common assumption. Um, go
Speaker 1: blaze your own trail. And uh, it has just been
Speaker 1: awesome to watch him um do that and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's the most creative guy I think to ever
Speaker 1: you know, play the game of golf. And that's crazy
Speaker 1: saying it at his young age. What he has done
Speaker 1: is Uh, there's just nothing short of fantastic. It's awesome
Speaker 1: for the game, but reminds us all that, you know,
Speaker 1: the art of the possible is sometimes bigger, almost always
Speaker 1: bigger than we think it is. Well, Dan, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate the time. It was an honor to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Love the book, excited for it. November that comes out
Speaker 1: flying to the wind, How to harness faith and fearlessness
Speaker 1: on your assent to greatness? And to Dan's point in
Speaker 1: the book, there's greatness in everybody, so everybody can ascend
Speaker 1: the greatness. That's the key. Don't feel like because you're
Speaker 1: not Bryson, you can't get there. We can all get there.
Speaker 1: It's all in us. And I uh, I pulled a
Speaker 1: lot from and I thought it was a great read,
Speaker 1: and it was extremely positive and it opened my eyes
Speaker 1: just some different thinking that I feel like I'm always
Speaker 1: looking for. So I urge people grab the book, give
Speaker 1: it a read. I think you'll be a fan. Thanks Shane.
Speaker 1: And I would say that the greatest books I've ever read,
Speaker 1: you take one thing out of it will change your
Speaker 1: life forever. And I think Flying into the Wind um
Speaker 1: will accomplish that for a lot of folks. And uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can you head school, you can get it anywhere
Speaker 1: books are sold, uh, Sam's and Walmart, um, all the
Speaker 1: online retailers. And there's also an audio version that that
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun reading myself, which I
Speaker 1: think just adds a whole layer of authenticity to to
Speaker 1: what the book is. But man, blessed to be on
Speaker 1: this journey of life with you, and my hope and
Speaker 1: prayers that Flying to the Wind will help people, UH
Speaker 1: find and chase their dreams and uh and get better. Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I think people will really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Thanks again for the time, and hopefully I'll see down
Speaker 1: the road all right saying God bless brother. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a quick break and be right back. A big
Speaker 1: thanks to Dan Rooney for joining, A big thanks to
Speaker 1: you for listening. Um, I really enjoyed that. He he is.
Speaker 1: He is an unbelievable guy. He makes me want to
Speaker 1: be more positive. I want to be happier. I could
Speaker 1: be a little more Dan like, is what I gotta say.
Speaker 1: But enjoy the week. Hope you guys get out and
Speaker 1: play if the weather is cooperating. I had a friend
Speaker 1: called me yesterday from the Northeast that said, if it's
Speaker 1: thirty nine and sunny, is that still golf weather? I
Speaker 1: said sure. I mean, you know it's up to you,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there's enough layers that as long
Speaker 1: as the sun's out and it's not snowing on you, you
Speaker 1: you can probably play. So if you can get out,
Speaker 1: get out, play, enjoy it, and if not, we'll be
Speaker 1: back next week for another clubhouse. The clubhouse was Shane
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