1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: This is the warning before we watch this interview of 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: two maga members of Congress on morning. Joe, let's set 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: the stage. I'll interrupt throughout the interview to make a 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: couple of points. But I want to be crystal clear 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: about what it is that you are seeing and why 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: it is so appalling. There are many people who appear 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: on television who talk about political issues who are fools. 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings is an example of a dishonest fool. Scott 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: doesn't know a lot about a lot of things. Scott 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: couldn't have a deep conversation about the history of the country, 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: about the Constitution, about the twentieth century. He's a cable 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: news blatherer who is like Mikey from the serial Commercials. 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: He's there to say anything. There are people like Stephen A. 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Smith who now routinely invey about politics, which of course 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: is right as an American citizen. But he too is 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: a fool who knows nothing about anything but can't stop talking. 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: That's not Joe Scarborough's problem. He's as deeply read and 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: knowledgeable about American history as I am, which means when 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: he hears what these members of Congress are saying, he 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: appreciates exactly what it is that I'm hearing, And what 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm hearing is members of Congress saying, we have reached 22 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: an hour of crisis that is so great that we 23 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: have to get rid of the Constitution of the United 24 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: States so we can let Elon Musk and his nineteen 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: year old lieutenant named big Balls takeover spending and who 26 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: gets paid from the United States Congress because the Congress 27 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: has wrung up thirty six million dollars in debt. 28 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: As an Article one champion. I'm concerned by what I'm 29 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: seeing with the Elon Musk going around and and and 30 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: and going from bureaucracy to bureaucracy, and he's seeming to 31 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: do like sort of a line item vetos saying well, 32 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: we don't want this. 33 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: We don't want that. 34 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm wondering, are you all concerned at all about this 35 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: infringing upon your Article one powers because you all, as 36 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: you know, you authorize it, uh and and and then 37 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: you appropriate it and then it moves forward for the 38 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: President and the executive branch to spend it. Are you 39 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: concerned now or is there a moment is there a 40 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: red line Elon Musk could cross that would cause you 41 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: real constitutional concerns. 42 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: Listen. I think what President Trump is doing by appointing 43 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: Elon Musk is absolutely brilliant. 44 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough appreciates that Article one of the Constitution is 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,559 Speaker 1: not transferable, it is not fungible, and it is not debatable. 46 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: Every single member of Congress has already taken a position 47 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: on the debate when they swore an oath of allegiance 48 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: to preserve the Constitution of the United States of America 49 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: against all enemies, foreign and domestic. This is not a 50 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: debate about provisions in the Law of the Sea Treaty. 51 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: This is not a technical disagreement about a provision in 52 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: the Farm Bill. This is not a fiscal disagreement about 53 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: tax policy where one side says the top rate ought 54 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: to be thirty nine percent, in the other thirty five percent. 55 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: This what is being said is a radical repudiation of 56 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: the most elemental idea in American history history. And so 57 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: what Joe Scarborough knows is that Elon Musk, he does 58 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: not have the right to spend the people's money. He 59 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: is operating outside the constitution, outside the law. He has 60 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: not been commissioned, he has not been confirmed, he has 61 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: not been appointed and he has not been elected, and 62 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: yet what we see from Scarborough is a lack of 63 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: energy and passion. Joe Scarborough could have instigated a debate, 64 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: could have said, what are you talking about? 65 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: President Trump is doing an amazing job by actually telling us, Hey, 66 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: we have a problem and look look at what we're uncovering. 67 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: So I'm happy we're having the discussion. 68 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: Well, and I'm happy we're having a discussion too, about waste, 69 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: fraud and abuse, about using best practices. 70 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Article one is Article one for a reason. 71 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: The people the foundation of government of the people, by 72 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: the people, for the people choose the elected representatives who 73 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: spend the people's money. Elon Musk and a nineteen year 74 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: old named big Balls, and until yesterday their colleague, a 75 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: young Nazi whose social media feed is filled with praise 76 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: of eugenics and hatred towards Indian engineers. These are the 77 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: people for whom we are ready to suspend the American Constitution. 78 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: And Joe Scarborough's approach is like, hey, let's hear him out, 79 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: as opposed to confronting the fascists who are on the screen. 80 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: Two months after he called Trump hitler and then went 81 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: to the Bergoff got on his knees, capitulated, and set 82 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: off an avalanche of media capitulation, each company racing the 83 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: next to be the first to get in line to 84 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: be fair, which means being nice, nice to try accommodating 85 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: to all of the craziest on American ideas. What's next, 86 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: troops in the street. Already there are news accounts of 87 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: ice agents boarding school buses, seizing little children, and of 88 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: course American citizens with brown skin speaking Spanish from let's say, 89 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico being seized by their government and incarcerated for 90 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: no cause whatsoever. These are American citizens who do not 91 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: have to show their papers on the streets of America. Yet, 92 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: over and over and over again, America's media, in the 93 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: form of powerful corporate companies, many owned by billionaires, have 94 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: capitulated out of fear that the next merger will be denied, 95 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: out of fear that the twenty five million dollar salary 96 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: might go away, out of fear that I might be 97 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: frivolously sued, And so the coward rules. And when a 98 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: radical Republican member of Congress comes on to television and says, 99 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: it's a good thing that Elon Musk and a couple 100 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: of children have seized control of America's US Treasury Department 101 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: payment system without oversight, without accountability, because we're in a crisis, 102 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: and he hears them out. He was on his show 103 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: that he marked out a fence line to the Washington 104 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: elite about what you could say and what you could 105 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: not say, what was fair to say and unfair to say, 106 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: knowing that you would have Joe Scarborough to deal with 107 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: if you got out of line about Joe Biden. He 108 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: made it perfectly clear. Came the first television host to 109 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: say you to his audience live on air. 110 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell 111 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: you the truth and FU if you can't handle the truth. 112 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically is the best Biden ever, 113 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: not a close second. And I've known him for years. 114 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: The Brazinskis have known him for fifty years. If it 115 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it. 116 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: And now he does it with a little less bomb best, 117 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: but make no mistake, it's still a fuck you because 118 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: he should have some bomb beast when it comes to 119 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: defense of the Constitution. Unlike most television hosts, he swore 120 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: an oath to defend, and his swearing of that oath 121 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: doesn't end with the end of his tenure. Once you 122 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: take that oath, it endures for the rest of your life, 123 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough. And so when a member of Congress from 124 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: the institution you served that you have walk in privileges 125 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: to sit on the floor, to go on the floor 126 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: sends two members to go on your show and say, hey, 127 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: we'll let elon decide. You ought to do a lot 128 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: better than making the point. Hey, I'm an article one guy. 129 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: You made that point, but we don't know where you 130 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: stand because you're not standing. You're laying down. In an 131 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: hour when it is time to stand up. Too many 132 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: people are laying down. Too many fools are leading the charge, 133 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: like this one from New York. 134 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: We will win. 135 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: We will win. We will win. 136 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: We will win. 137 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: We won We won't rest, we won't rest. We won't rest, 138 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: we won't rest. 139 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: We will win. This is the warning. I'm Steve Schmidt. 140 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: This is the warning, and I invite you to join. 141 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: Subscribe on our substack, on our YouTube channel, follow us. 142 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: Welcome to the community.