Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. The history is rich. It's sures.
Speaker 2: Ten years from the Chris Westling podcast studio.
Speaker 1: It's around the NFL.
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hansis I got a hero here, Gregi Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: It is all.
Speaker 2: It's almost weird to talk about how the history is
Speaker 2: rich without Colleen the originally or said statement.
Speaker 1: But we'll get through it.
Speaker 3: Also weird when you call me Gregy. That was really
Speaker 3: only a Debbie Rosenthal thing, but now it's popping up.
Speaker 3: My kids sometimes call me GREGI here there or my daughter.
Speaker 3: Really just it's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Frankly, I feel like I've called you Gregi for a
Speaker 1: couple years.
Speaker 3: You've you've been in the next ten years ago this
Speaker 3: month actually right? Is that right? June eighth? June eighth
Speaker 3: is the day as we're taping. I moved out here
Speaker 3: June first, so you're there.
Speaker 2: It is jupin first, And that was twenty twelve. Twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: July is when we started Around the NFL as a
Speaker 2: foursome the podcast.
Speaker 1: That is how about that?
Speaker 3: Like a month later twenty thirteen, I was out here.
Speaker 3: Wes came out a year month was it? One month later? No,
Speaker 3: I started with the NFL that year before. But I
Speaker 3: had that weird year in New York, and West was
Speaker 3: hired and Tybee got it. I came out in June.
Speaker 3: He came out in July, and we were we were
Speaker 3: recording like three weeks later.
Speaker 1: Crazy. Today Mark is on a quest of some kind.
Speaker 3: We don't ask it questions, where's Mark spiritual?
Speaker 2: Perhaps it's perhaps spiritual. I was out on Monday. I
Speaker 2: hope everything went well. Mark should be back next week.
Speaker 3: If everything goes well with his quest, I feel confident
Speaker 3: I'll be back now.
Speaker 2: I think just a couple of his friends are in town,
Speaker 2: he said. So it's I don't want to get people
Speaker 2: nervous like Greg that Mark went into like a commune
Speaker 2: or something that will happen.
Speaker 1: Just it's not.
Speaker 3: Yet, or like started leading the cult that I've rumored
Speaker 3: that right possible at.
Speaker 2: Some point if we get Here's our promise to the
Speaker 2: listeners about Mark.
Speaker 3: Why are we talking about If uh it goes badly.
Speaker 2: Mark starts wearing red sneakers or starts to give off
Speaker 2: vibes of cult leader in a tangible way, We're gonna
Speaker 2: give you a heads up so it doesn't you don't
Speaker 2: get blindsided because the show got blindsided recently. Nobody likes
Speaker 2: getting blindsided. We will make sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: With Mark entering the Cult. Now, today's show, we got
Speaker 1: actually some news, Greggy.
Speaker 3: That's not bad for June eighth. There's some actual stuff
Speaker 3: to talk about. I think it was all the mini
Speaker 3: camps happening this week. There will be more even next week.
Speaker 3: But just like made people act, so I'm I'm happy
Speaker 3: to have an actual chunky news seg mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And for today's conversation piece, we'll call it urgency the
Speaker 2: teams that have the most urgency entering twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: We usually call it a SEG. You don't want to
Speaker 3: call it a seg. It's a conversation information portal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the SEG is we're gonna talk the urgency rankings
Speaker 2: or the urgency ratings we're figuring out for teams entering
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. And it's an interesting combo. I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to having it, Gregy, because it's a little uh,
Speaker 2: there's some nuance to it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like it's not just like, oh, everybody, it's like
Speaker 2: win the super Bowl. It's like we know that what's
Speaker 2: real and what's not. And different teams have different goals,
Speaker 2: but some teams have urgency that are higher level than
Speaker 2: other teams. And one team at a zero point zero
Speaker 2: on my I think.
Speaker 3: I know the same team it had. It had the
Speaker 3: my lowest mark as.
Speaker 1: Well, did they, but higher than zero point zero.
Speaker 3: I didn't put I put one as the lowest. I
Speaker 3: don't know why. I just thought one could be the lowest.
Speaker 1: The gentleman zero. All right, Before we do that, though,
Speaker 1: let's hit the news.
Speaker 2: Cousins back to pass, green left to Dalvin, turns it
Speaker 2: up outside the numbers of the forty, gets to the fifty.
Speaker 2: Here is a low Alvin twenty to the left, fifteen
Speaker 2: to ten.
Speaker 3: Five touchdok yes, yes.
Speaker 4: US sixty four yard touchdown and he had to drag
Speaker 4: a colt into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: The immortal Paul Allen on the call for KFA N
Speaker 2: That was back in December. Dalvin Cook caught a short
Speaker 2: pass from Kirk Cousins, patting Cousins's stats in numerous categories
Speaker 2: as he rumbled sixty four yards for a touchdown. The
Speaker 2: Vikings Then's got a two point conversion. Gregy then kicked
Speaker 2: the field on overtime. They won thirty nine thirty six
Speaker 2: over the Colts after trailing thirty three nothing at the half.
Speaker 2: The biggest comeback in NFL history and one kind of
Speaker 2: forgotten because the Vikings went on and done in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: The Colts are already and like packing in mode in
Speaker 2: a disaster that year. But in the moment, by the
Speaker 2: way I locked up the Vikings in this game. I
Speaker 2: remember watching the lakeisha and bothering. It was wild that
Speaker 2: they locked it up for me kind of slept on
Speaker 2: as one of the craziest games ever.
Speaker 3: I don't think it will be forg I mean, you're right,
Speaker 3: like it should be remembered more. But that's the mark.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: It's the greatest comeback in the NFL history. The fact
Speaker 3: that the Chargers in blew and almost as big a
Speaker 3: lead in the playoffs maybe took some shine away.
Speaker 2: Jeez, that's yeah, g C. That was like three or
Speaker 2: four weeks later. All right, let's get into it. So, yes,
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook that was the man on that play, and
Speaker 2: he's had some great moments, certainly with Minnesota, over a
Speaker 2: career that, at age twenty seven, has already included four
Speaker 2: trips to the Pro Bowl. However, the Dalvin Cook Aaron
Speaker 2: Minnesota is over. NFL Network insider Tom Pelisero More and
Speaker 2: Peli Sero in a moment by the Way, reported that
Speaker 2: the Vikings and Cook are expected to part ways and
Speaker 2: it's supposed to go down officially on Friday, unless there
Speaker 2: could be a last minute of trade here. But it's
Speaker 2: very likely here that it ends with Cook hitting the
Speaker 2: open market. Greg a couple of years ago, he's in
Speaker 2: the conversation as one of the best running backs in
Speaker 2: the league. Minnesota is in a bit of a transition,
Speaker 2: But what's really behind this? How does he end up
Speaker 2: no longer part of their future.
Speaker 3: I think it's curious. They love Alexander Madison. They signed
Speaker 3: him to a low cost contract, They put him as
Speaker 3: their Twitter header, took away Dalvin Cook's status as the
Speaker 3: Twitter header like two months ago. So this move was
Speaker 3: coming and I think they were trying to get a
Speaker 3: trade going. Maybe some draft picks didn't happen. I think
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook can still play. Then I hear from some
Speaker 3: smart Vikings fans that, like Eric Eagor used to work
Speaker 3: at PFF, thinks Cook is a little cooked. I don't
Speaker 3: see that. I know he wasn't as explosive a year ago.
Speaker 3: He still averaged four point four yards per carry. You
Speaker 3: saw that long touchdown. He had some big plays. He's
Speaker 3: still good as a receiver. He's turning twenty eight. To me,
Speaker 3: he's easily the best running back that's actually hit free
Speaker 3: agency this offseason because all the good ones Pollard in,
Speaker 3: Jacob's and Saquon all got tagged. I don't think he's
Speaker 3: like Joe Mixon. He's certainly not like Ezekiel Elliott, where
Speaker 3: he's just like hard decline. I think he's gonna go
Speaker 3: out and help a team.
Speaker 2: It's also the age for certain running backs that you
Speaker 2: have those five or six years.
Speaker 1: Le'Veon Bell.
Speaker 2: His situation was a little weird because he sat out
Speaker 2: a year, but he was around the same age, and
Speaker 2: when he came back after signing that deal with the Jets,
Speaker 2: he was not the same player anymore. The Vikings obviously
Speaker 2: think he is a player that is in decline, or
Speaker 2: they're just looking at their financial situation and saying to themselves,
Speaker 2: you know, he's due over ten million twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Cutting them after June first allows them to save nine
Speaker 2: million on the salary cap this season.
Speaker 1: With five million of dead money. This is very much
Speaker 1: Greg as I said, a.
Speaker 2: Team that's trying to figure out like where they're going,
Speaker 2: and they're setting themselves up for the future. And if
Speaker 2: they like Madison as much as their Twitter head seems
Speaker 2: to indicate, this is a way to get more fluid
Speaker 2: financially in the future.
Speaker 3: I get it. I just don't think their total number
Speaker 3: one objective this year is winning games. He's a fourteen
Speaker 3: million dollar cap hit Dalvin Cook before this release, so
Speaker 3: that is lot and I think they maybe are trying
Speaker 3: to open up space for some long term extensions, and
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson would be the most logical one among them,
Speaker 3: and so that might be part of it. But it's
Speaker 3: been a team that's been like around the cap space
Speaker 3: issues all off season. They traded Zadaria Smith, like I
Speaker 3: think Dalvin Cook could help them, could help a team
Speaker 3: they're very thin at running back now behind Alexander Madison.
Speaker 3: I don't know who it's gonna be. Maybe they'll sign
Speaker 3: like a low cost veteran, but I feel like Cook's
Speaker 3: gonna have some suitors. The Dolphins have been mentioned, the
Speaker 3: Broncos have been mentioned as a potential landing spot. They
Speaker 3: have Javonte Williams, they gave some money the samaj p
Speaker 3: wran so would be a little weird. But Denver some
Speaker 3: reporters there have thrown that out. The Jets make some
Speaker 3: sense to me.
Speaker 1: Depends on the brise Hall situation, I would think.
Speaker 3: But if they were interested in a rookie, well, the Rams,
Speaker 3: I mean Rams don't seem like they're spending on any
Speaker 3: veterans panthers. I would throw that the Bucks need a
Speaker 3: running back. These are the types of teams I'm not
Speaker 3: sure we'll spend. Mike McCarthy said some very positive statements
Speaker 3: about Dalvin Cook and a little.
Speaker 2: Bit of a weird depth chart there, especially with a
Speaker 2: guy Tony Pollard coming off the leg injury.
Speaker 3: That's interesting, Like he doesn't need to be a three
Speaker 3: hundred carry guy, and I probably shouldn't be. I heard
Speaker 3: from people who's like, oh, Dalvin Cook, he's always banged
Speaker 3: up this net. Like he played through a shoulder injury
Speaker 3: last year and maybe that slowed him down a little
Speaker 3: in terms of like always seeking out the contact. When
Speaker 3: you think Dalvin Cook, you think like energetic runs. But
Speaker 3: he did play all seventeen games. He really hasn't missed
Speaker 3: that many games. Yeah, so just a quick Vikings timeline
Speaker 3: before we move on. Yeah, the Cousins, you know, is
Speaker 3: a pretty big story a few months back when they
Speaker 3: are not gonna rework his contract here, so they're letting
Speaker 3: that play out. Adam Thielen, who's a stalwart there, they
Speaker 3: let him go. He goes to Charlotte's Daria Smith, as
Speaker 3: we said, traded. They are taking phone calls on a
Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter as well. Now Harrison Harrison Smith took a
Speaker 3: haircut to stay there. So and now you have Dalvin
Speaker 3: Cook exiting picture. That's a thirteen win team last year.
Speaker 3: You don't usually see a play out this way. But
Speaker 3: they also they were a weird thirteen wins. He puts
Speaker 3: them low on my urgency rankings spoil. I mean, it
Speaker 3: just seems like a team with Quesi Adopho Mensa there
Speaker 3: gm who started a year ago. That's like taking this
Speaker 3: as a reset year. The Hunter trade news and the
Speaker 3: news was rap sheet said they're receiving calls on him.
Speaker 3: To me was way more surprising. It's like, really, he
Speaker 3: is one of your best players, and usually that doesn't
Speaker 3: get out there unless they kind of want they want
Speaker 3: to trade him. So now I'm thinking Daniel Hunter is
Speaker 3: not going to be there either, and he's one of
Speaker 3: their best players. I thought he might be a candidate
Speaker 3: to get more money, but apparently not real.
Speaker 1: Quick back to that thirty three nothing come back.
Speaker 2: Do you remember the Pell Raiser interview with Cousins after
Speaker 2: the game?
Speaker 3: Vaguely?
Speaker 1: Let's play just a little bit of that, Kirk.
Speaker 4: No team had ever come back from thirty three points
Speaker 4: down and won a game until today. How did you
Speaker 4: pull off the big come back in NFL history? We
Speaker 4: just pulled off the biggest comeback in NFL history.
Speaker 1: Okay, I need a second Tom, I need a second Tom.
Speaker 1: I love that he hit.
Speaker 3: The light went off in Hirk's eyes here. He's like,
Speaker 3: you can't come at me anymore for not showing up
Speaker 3: in a big spot. I've got that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my running back can rumble sixty seven yards on
Speaker 2: the screen with no one around him and carry four
Speaker 2: guys in.
Speaker 1: The end zone. No, I like Cousins, I got to
Speaker 1: take us, sir.
Speaker 2: In disconcerting news, the Colts and cornerback Isaiah Rodgers. There's
Speaker 2: something going on here. He was not on the field
Speaker 2: for Wednesday's offseason workout admit an NFL investigation into.
Speaker 1: His gambling activities.
Speaker 2: Rogers the subject of a league investigation into possible violations
Speaker 2: of the league's gambling policy, including possible bets placed on
Speaker 2: Colts games.
Speaker 1: Yikes.
Speaker 2: Rogers acknowledged the situation on social media early this week,
Speaker 2: saying he takes quote full responsibility for his actions. Boy, Greg,
Speaker 2: So this is something that the Lions got hit with
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams, their star rookie wide receiver, suspended multiple games
Speaker 2: and other players that were connected to that. Now you
Speaker 2: have a cornerback who and this where it gets really dicey. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the betting appear apparently is connected to the cults themselves,
Speaker 2: which is kind of a nightmare scenario in this new
Speaker 2: gambling world that the professional football landscape has embraced.
Speaker 3: Right ESPN sources, I'm going off of Stephen Holder, who's
Speaker 3: their local cult supporter, and David Purdam had that he
Speaker 3: made roughly one hundred bets and they were like in
Speaker 3: the twenty five to fifty dollars range, with maybe like
Speaker 3: a low four figure bet thrown in there. So it's
Speaker 3: just stupidity because no one's getting rich off of even
Speaker 3: though it's pervasive. It is, that's very pervasive. He was
Speaker 3: just doing it. I mean, he just didn't care, didn't
Speaker 3: think he was gonna get caught, apparently because he had
Speaker 3: someone else make them for him. But it was like
Speaker 3: easy to trace it back apparently, like what are we
Speaker 3: doing here? Like all for what?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Because he's not making much money off of this, and
Speaker 3: the fact that it's on the Colts has some speculation that, look,
Speaker 3: he could be suspended indefinitely, like they could be threatening
Speaker 3: his career or say that he has to do certain
Speaker 3: things before he ever returns. And this was a starter
Speaker 3: who was a sixth round pick, had elevated to a
Speaker 3: starter last year, had a very good year, was an
Speaker 3: above average starting cornerback in the NFL last year, which
Speaker 3: was kind of a surprise for such a late pick
Speaker 3: who got his first chance and was just about to
Speaker 3: get paid, probably because he's entering the final year of
Speaker 3: his rookie deal and that's all gone now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've heard and yeah, this one's pretty
Speaker 2: cut and dry because it's gambling and it's involving his
Speaker 2: team and all that. Every player knows that's not allowed.
Speaker 2: But I've heard some pushback with some of these other
Speaker 2: gambling suspense that have occurred in the last year or so,
Speaker 2: and even you know, some critics criticism towards the league's
Speaker 2: policies and whether they're clear enough, and it's like, now,
Speaker 2: you know, get lost with that. It's like you these
Speaker 2: guys have to know just full stop. You have a
Speaker 2: whole life after football to do whatever you want in
Speaker 2: this realm. This message needs to be loud and clear.
Speaker 2: You can't do any of this. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: the sport is. You just got to stay away from
Speaker 2: it or they're gonna find you because these investigations the leagues,
Speaker 2: the league needs to be on top of this at
Speaker 2: this level because it brings into question the integrity of
Speaker 2: the game. So they're gonna be hunting for guys that
Speaker 2: are doing anything in this world. So you just got
Speaker 2: to be smart enough. And he wasn't smart. And it's
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that seems that aren't being smart
Speaker 2: about it right now.
Speaker 3: I guess it was inevitable. I didn't really see this coming,
Speaker 3: but I guess this was inevitable when this happened in
Speaker 3: terms of gambling becoming legal through throughout the country, most
Speaker 3: of the country not California, that this was going to happen,
Speaker 3: that you needed to have like five to ten guys
Speaker 3: totally mess up. You would think that will be enough
Speaker 3: to get people aware to prevent it in the future.
Speaker 3: But you would have thought that already. And the Colts
Speaker 3: are very thin there by the way. For what it's worth,
Speaker 3: he's their kick returner, he's a starting cornerback. I would
Speaker 3: say they have one of the worst cornerback groups in
Speaker 3: the NFL, and he was, you know, one of their best,
Speaker 3: you know, might have been their best cornerback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, other thank anymore. I don't think we're going to
Speaker 2: see him for a while. NFL Networks Tom Pellissero, There
Speaker 2: he is again. Reports the Titans summer of I know,
Speaker 2: are hosting DeAndre Hopkins for a visit. It was confirmed
Speaker 2: when Mike Vrabel met with the media. You want to
Speaker 2: hear a little bit of a.
Speaker 3: Little spicy rabes haven't heard this, not too spicy.
Speaker 1: Let's just hear from him visit.
Speaker 5: I mean, is it a recruiting opportunity or like, how
Speaker 5: do how do does that benefits?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: I mean I'm past the recruiting. I did that in college,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? I think that again, would
Speaker 5: really just want people that want to be here, and
Speaker 5: then if that works out, then you go on to
Speaker 5: the next step. So that will this will be pretty
Speaker 5: much it until we you know, either sign or or
Speaker 5: don't sign the next.
Speaker 2: Player and the here's the Belichick disciple and a part
Speaker 2: two of the question about DeAndre Campler's got.
Speaker 5: A reputation from this will be you know again this
Speaker 5: if that's what you're gonna ask your question about today, Paul,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you another opportunity, but I'm going to
Speaker 5: talk about the players that are here, and when deandres here,
Speaker 5: I'll visit with him and then we'll move on when
Speaker 5: we make any other transactions from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what. I couldn't
Speaker 1: really hear what the did you hear it?
Speaker 3: I think he was saying like he has a little
Speaker 3: bit of a reputation of and yeah, he cut him
Speaker 3: off before. I don't even know. He's like he's got
Speaker 3: a history of not practicing, cuts him off, and he
Speaker 3: comes back in the last guy that didn't practice, and
Speaker 3: then he kind of talking to Julio Jones. He's saying,
Speaker 3: do you want to make the same mistake.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I forgot that.
Speaker 2: Leo Jones was on the Titans for a second there,
Speaker 2: but yes he was for a hot minute a couple
Speaker 2: of years back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is they're still.
Speaker 2: Kind of digging out Gregie from the AJ Brown mistake
Speaker 2: that they made the management made. I don't know if
Speaker 2: is Hopkins to fit there. I don't know if it is.
Speaker 3: I just think it's always Paul. It's always pap. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like the look on Brabel's face. He is that one
Speaker 3: reporter that, like, I feel like Rabel's.
Speaker 1: Larski is the guy that hated the Titoons nickname right.
Speaker 3: He's the one you once had a back and forth.
Speaker 1: He had a little conversation on this show.
Speaker 3: He seems to mix it up with whoever wherever he goes.
Speaker 3: I get like questioning their idea of signing another aging
Speaker 3: wide receiver. It has not worked out for them. Robert
Speaker 3: Woods was on that team too, right, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: I mix it up because he's on the Texans now.
Speaker 3: None of it's worked, but they need another receiver. So actually,
Speaker 3: if they're trying to win this year, and I think
Speaker 3: they are, it makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 3: Nick Westberg, Akina is their number two receivers like Kyle
Speaker 3: Phillips is there three? They could they could use a receiver.
Speaker 2: If Hopkins wants to be there, you got to make
Speaker 2: it happen. And because they have made as far as
Speaker 2: we know this, like you're saying when you keep the
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback and you're keeping Dereck Henry in the building,
Speaker 2: you're you're sending a message to your fans, who I
Speaker 2: think they're happy to hear it, at least the ones
Speaker 2: that are always looking for immediate results, that you're in
Speaker 2: it to win it. And you obviously have a big
Speaker 2: hole there. And Hopkins, even if he's not the same guy,
Speaker 2: huge up Greg, Greg Greg.
Speaker 1: If they can add him.
Speaker 3: It would be big. It does have the feeling of
Speaker 3: like Hopkins is not getting the money he wants from
Speaker 3: the Bills and the Chiefs specifically being used a little bit.
Speaker 3: There's being reports that both those teams are interested, but
Speaker 3: they're like they're not giving him Modell Beckham money. They
Speaker 3: probably say, hey, look you want to go chase a ring,
Speaker 3: We'll pay you one year, We'll give you some incentives.
Speaker 3: The base is probably under ten million dollars, come play
Speaker 3: with us, and he might not be down with that,
Speaker 3: and so he either is gonna take the money or
Speaker 3: use the Titans for the money, but they would have
Speaker 3: to probably pay a Titans premium.
Speaker 2: And that connects with the bird Breer report from last
Speaker 2: week that he might have to take what was the
Speaker 2: bag or the chase the ring, probably not going to
Speaker 2: get the ring.
Speaker 3: Intend It's easy for me to say, but he's made
Speaker 3: a lot of money and careful. A place like Buffalo
Speaker 3: or Kansas City would be a you know, you could
Speaker 3: you go there for like one year and you still
Speaker 3: will make let's say eight million dollars. That's like, that's
Speaker 3: kick that's putting it forward. But I know they don't
Speaker 3: have a long shelf life of how many years in
Speaker 3: factor in taxes, yeah, state taxes. I gotta think it's
Speaker 3: less too in Tennessee than in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Another graveyard comes off the board. Frank Clark has a
Speaker 2: home the Denver Broncos signed the Edge Rusher, formerly of
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. One year, five and a half million, could
Speaker 2: get up another two million if he hits some incentives.
Speaker 2: He's had a quiet market greggie and is maybe not
Speaker 2: the guy he was at his peak, but a nice
Speaker 2: rotation oh Rusher gives the Denver Little Denver a little
Speaker 2: more juice there.
Speaker 3: When I did a projected starters, I thought their edge
Speaker 3: rushing position was among the worst in the league. Like
Speaker 3: pretty interesting defense.
Speaker 1: Otherwise post Bradley Chubb era right.
Speaker 3: No Chubb, von Miller's also gone some guys that might
Speaker 3: may or may not fit, so kind of makes sense.
Speaker 3: But I was feeling like Charles Frank Clarke was a
Speaker 3: little a little cooked, was not contributing a lot to
Speaker 3: the Broncos. So I mean, to the Chiefs. I don't
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be a big difference maker, but it's nice.
Speaker 3: I like when they the one oh one guys get
Speaker 3: pushed off the list. I just feel better. I just
Speaker 3: wanted to listen to be empty.
Speaker 1: Hm, who's the best player left now?
Speaker 3: Well, now Cook is gonna be on there. Oh, but
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins is. Don't you wish he was on there
Speaker 3: in March when the piece had juice? Well, yes, and
Speaker 3: I respect our editor al Lei von Purry, but he
Speaker 3: sees and Hopkins gets cut or Cook gets cut, He's like, ooh,
Speaker 3: fresh meat. Let's go to another right to put him
Speaker 3: on and then we can put it back into the rotation,
Speaker 3: like here's where Cook.
Speaker 1: Is in other news.
Speaker 2: You know, there's always gonna be a ton of coverage
Speaker 2: around the Cowboys, always right, and they're doing their job.
Speaker 2: They do their job as well Jarah and the whole
Speaker 2: organization because they give the national media and the local
Speaker 2: media fresh material. And this is no different this spring
Speaker 2: because they are really pumping up this new offense. They're
Speaker 2: calling it Greg have you heard what they're calling. They're
Speaker 2: talking up the Texas Coast offense. I mean, can't you
Speaker 2: just hear Stephen A. Smith screaming right now? And Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Zaddy himself has not been shy as you know, talking
Speaker 2: about's underlook exactly, he's puffing his chest out.
Speaker 1: He's calling plays this year.
Speaker 2: And despite Dallas being a highly ranked offense, let's listen
Speaker 2: to Zaddy once again. Given some gruel, thrown in some
Speaker 2: meat into the old churn blend there.
Speaker 6: They need to own offense. You know, I have no
Speaker 6: interest in being known as some guru coach or a
Speaker 6: smart coach. I'm a smart Hall of Fame type quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: You've got to make them own the offense. And and
Speaker 6: you see, he has a personality, but it's just like anything.
Speaker 6: This is our first year of playing the way we
Speaker 6: want to play, and he's done a really good job
Speaker 6: of taking ownership of that. And then with that, you
Speaker 6: know the mental challenges. You know he is, he's knocked
Speaker 6: out of the park.
Speaker 1: The first of all. Kellen Moore, who is in LA
Speaker 1: now at the charge.
Speaker 2: This this narrative that they're spinning out of out of
Speaker 2: the star, that now we get to play that the
Speaker 2: way we want to play. Mike, come back to us,
Speaker 2: you a head coach, Bud like you can't say that
Speaker 2: he doesn't look good on you. He's saying, now he
Speaker 2: gets to be himself as a play caller this year,
Speaker 2: and that's why they're going to be better.
Speaker 1: And they're pretty damn good last.
Speaker 3: Year play the play the way we want to play.
Speaker 3: They were fourth in the points story in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: They were first in twenty twenty one. I mean, points
Speaker 3: are important, not the way they wanted to play though.
Speaker 3: I get it. But he's he's showing kind of like
Speaker 3: mid career Jerry Jones coach symptoms here.
Speaker 1: They're kind of perfect together where he is.
Speaker 3: Now starting he's not hitting out, but he's at least
Speaker 3: needling Jerry and letting the public know like, Hey, this
Speaker 3: wasn't really on me. This was Jerry forcing his guy
Speaker 3: on me. And I've got enough cachet with Jerry now
Speaker 3: I can throw that out there because I know he
Speaker 3: doesn't take things personally, which is to Jerry Jones's credit.
Speaker 3: I am not that optimistic though, of Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer being an upgrade. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen to these quotes coming out of Dallas.
Speaker 2: Here's Zach Martin the Guard. It's more of an attitude.
Speaker 2: Deal said of a McCarthy's effect as a Pittsburgh guy
Speaker 2: calling plays, That's the best way I can describe it.
Speaker 3: McCarthy's gotten a lot of mileage out of being from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: I feel like that has been brought up when it
Speaker 3: is related to a lot carthy. He needs that beer back.
Speaker 3: Though not feeling the Zaddi vibes from Mike right now, okay,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's better when it's a beard. Also
Speaker 3: in my mind is a twenty fourteen Packers game that
Speaker 3: was on NFL Network the other night, The boy you
Speaker 3: want Sports at the dinner table at dinner. Yeah, there
Speaker 3: was no basketball. I had no local baseball. I couldn't
Speaker 3: find a baseball game, so we just put on the
Speaker 3: old Saints Packers from twenty fourteen. I have no idea
Speaker 3: why that game was on. But Mike looked better then,
Speaker 3: is my point?
Speaker 2: The most Greg Dinner situation possible, Little Saints Packers. You're
Speaker 2: saying he looked better, he looked better back then, Well
Speaker 2: it was nine years ago.
Speaker 3: I imagine living with me, who.
Speaker 1: Among us did not look better nine years ago? It
Speaker 1: happens the case.
Speaker 3: You know, Mark looks pretty good now, you're looking very
Speaker 3: zaddy like. I'm not saying Mark look bad nine years ago,
Speaker 3: but honestly, Mark is looking pretty hot. You got the
Speaker 3: facial air, you know. But you're right, nine years is
Speaker 3: a long time.
Speaker 1: Now. Are you just fishing for a compliment?
Speaker 3: Greg, I'm not because I know it's not true.
Speaker 1: Check used to have a.
Speaker 2: Good line about this, and I think it's very true,
Speaker 2: which is we're all kind of hard on our own appearance,
Speaker 2: and you look at and then you'll look at like
Speaker 2: a Facebook photo from your twenties or whatever, or you know,
Speaker 2: ten fifteen years ago, and you'll be like, oh I
Speaker 2: look good there. Yeah, But back then you didn't think
Speaker 2: you look good, and he guess what, like ten fifteen years,
Speaker 2: we're gonna look back at how we look.
Speaker 1: Now, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: It's wise, wise good.
Speaker 2: Mark does look good. Well, of course, once he got
Speaker 2: Levi too. He's got the new jeans, he's got the
Speaker 2: black boots and Levi.
Speaker 1: He's got a whole thing going on. We love it.
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's everything in the news. Let's take a
Speaker 2: break and get urgent. All right, welcome back, Greg, Here
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 1: You're ready.
Speaker 2: It gets so urgent, so urgent. You know it's urgent.
Speaker 2: I want to tell you it's the same for me.
Speaker 2: So o o urgent. Just you wait and see how
Speaker 2: urgent our love can be. It's urgent. You say it's urgent.
Speaker 2: Make it fast, make it urgent, do it quick, do
Speaker 2: it urgent, gotta rush, make it urgent, want it quick, urgent,
Speaker 2: urgent emergency, so urgent, emergency.
Speaker 1: It's urgent.
Speaker 3: Don't know what that is, but sometimes it started to
Speaker 3: make me feel uncomfortable at the point you said make
Speaker 3: it quick. It's like, let me let me uh, let
Speaker 3: me spend some time here, let me enjoy myself. I
Speaker 3: don't want to make it quick.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when you it feels like a good move to,
Speaker 2: Like when you're trying to make a like a deep
Speaker 2: point or really connect on a level that makes you
Speaker 2: seem profound, you you go and dig up some lyrics
Speaker 2: from like maybe like Bob Dylan, like Blood on the Tracks.
Speaker 2: In this case, I chose Foreigner, and they're a nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty one hit urgent, so it didn't have the same
Speaker 2: It didn't come off the way I wanted it to
Speaker 2: it in my mind. But if anybody wants to pause
Speaker 2: and listen to that song, is Parker around. We have
Speaker 2: Parker behind the glass. She loves of all that late second.
Speaker 3: Feel more urgency on that front than I don't know
Speaker 3: a lot about Foreigner.
Speaker 2: I feel like Foreigner you'll be shocked to go down.
Speaker 2: If you ever were to just randomly go down a
Speaker 2: random Foreigner wormhole, you would be stunned to know how
Speaker 2: successful I were.
Speaker 3: I feel like though, between Foreigner and Journey, there could
Speaker 3: only be one, and Journeys won the battle.
Speaker 1: Journey one.
Speaker 3: My kid, my daughter is finishing in elementary school this week.
Speaker 3: It's a little off topic. Congratulations, thank you, And they
Speaker 3: played you know, a slide show of all the pictures
Speaker 3: over the years, like showing them in kindergarten and now
Speaker 3: up through fifth grade, and they played Don't Stop Believing.
Speaker 3: As part of it. All the kids are singing the
Speaker 3: song they know the Worst Journey's won.
Speaker 2: My eldest son Jack last year for their creative writing
Speaker 2: portion of school.
Speaker 1: That was the song their.
Speaker 2: Twenty four year old school teacher put on to get
Speaker 2: them into the headspace of created writing.
Speaker 3: They also know the lyrics to September by Earth Wind
Speaker 3: and Fire Shocked Me.
Speaker 1: You know what else? So shock you.
Speaker 2: Foreigner has worldwide sales of more than eighty million records,
Speaker 2: including forty million in the US.
Speaker 1: Anyway, urgency.
Speaker 2: In some ways, GREGI all teams have it, but that's
Speaker 2: not necessarily true because there are different levels of urgency.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to do a piece on this on
Speaker 2: NFL dot com, but this will be a good kind
Speaker 2: of testing ground, though. You and I can chop it
Speaker 2: up a little bit and talk about the teams that
Speaker 2: are facing the most.
Speaker 1: Urgency entering twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: And let's get it started dustly, Greg, because I brought
Speaker 2: it up before. This is the old Steinbrenner principle. Anything
Speaker 2: less than a super Bowl appearance is considered failure. And
Speaker 2: so I'm going to start with the team that I
Speaker 2: think has the most urgency, and it's the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 2: because I think they are truly Super Bowl or bust.
Speaker 2: And the dark side of the coin is is pretty
Speaker 2: damn dark. And I don't think it means like coaches
Speaker 2: and gms are getting fired necessarily, but kind of blown up.
Speaker 2: The roster in some ways is certainly in play. I
Speaker 2: think if they fail this year, and it just opens
Speaker 2: up a level of doubt around the organization if they
Speaker 2: don't get over the hump.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna if.
Speaker 2: I had to set like zero point zero out of
Speaker 2: ten point zero, I'm putting the Bills higher than anybody
Speaker 2: in this exercise. I'll put them at a nine point
Speaker 2: seven on the urgency scale. Buffalo Bills. Are you with
Speaker 2: me that they have the most urgency of a league?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Interesting? What do you got?
Speaker 3: But it's close? Well my first one, and I admit
Speaker 3: maybe this is Yeah, see if what kind of reaction
Speaker 3: I get? I think it's your New York Jets m hm, okay,
Speaker 3: just because they're the other teams that are most logical
Speaker 3: for most a I had the Bills sort of second
Speaker 3: or third. I think comparing them to the Bengals is
Speaker 3: inter because I actually put the Bengals slightly ahead of
Speaker 3: the Bills, although they're very similar to me. But the
Speaker 3: Bengals right now, I feel like, have this offense together
Speaker 3: right now, and I don't know how long it can
Speaker 3: stay together, very specifically talking about T Higgins, maybe Joe Mixon,
Speaker 3: I'm not really that worried about, but even their defensive
Speaker 3: core that it just feels like now is the time
Speaker 3: for the Bengals. So I put them slightly ahead of
Speaker 3: the Bills. But they have quarterbacks in the middle of
Speaker 3: their prime that are I maybe going to the Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame somedays. So I just feel like, if they're
Speaker 3: smart about it, it's not quite as urgent as a
Speaker 3: team like the Jets, who have a one to two
Speaker 3: year window. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers will be playing
Speaker 3: really well for three years. It's just we haven't seen
Speaker 3: someone that old play at that level other than Tom
Speaker 3: Brady for three years, or even play at all. And
Speaker 3: so to me, they have a super Bowl ready roster.
Speaker 3: The longer this offseas got on, the more I'm convinced
Speaker 3: that Jets should be really good actually that they won't
Speaker 3: be overhyped, but it just feels like it's like they
Speaker 3: are truly now or ever because of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have them at nine point six, so
Speaker 2: they were second on my linad.
Speaker 3: I gave him a perfect ten. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: give someone a ten.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 2: And I think for the Jets, they were kind of
Speaker 2: in a different category and that's something that I'll kind
Speaker 2: of when I do my write up, I'll focus on.
Speaker 2: So where the Bills to me are super Bowl or
Speaker 2: bust A team like the Jets. It's not super Bowl
Speaker 2: or bust, but it's playoffs or breadline for a lot
Speaker 2: of people. And it's Robert Sala, potentially Joe Douglas, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: If the season went sideways, you just don't know what
Speaker 2: happens after this year, even though I think it's a
Speaker 2: two year proposition is what I would guess it is.
Speaker 1: But a lot of things.
Speaker 2: Get really murky if they do not feel to double
Speaker 2: digit win team.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2: The Bills I've just to cycled to why I have
Speaker 2: them kind of as like the team just ahead of
Speaker 2: everyone else.
Speaker 1: This is since Josh Allen really came into his own.
Speaker 2: They lost in the wild card round, they lost in
Speaker 2: the conference playoffs, they lost in the division playoffs that
Speaker 2: heartbreaker obviously against Mahomes, and then lost again in the
Speaker 2: division playoffs where they really were beat up and beaten
Speaker 2: pretty badly by the Bengals and kind of an eye
Speaker 2: opening playoff loss. So you have that taste in their mouth,
Speaker 2: and I guess maybe I just give them a little
Speaker 2: bit of the edge because the stakes are higher, because
Speaker 2: it's just like this kind of tortured franchise that now
Speaker 2: has this great quarterback and this really good core And
Speaker 2: I did, you know, check in with your projected starters,
Speaker 2: greg like and coming up with my list, and it's like,
Speaker 2: is there enough around them? Did they do enough this year?
Speaker 2: They didn't make the big splash? You know, maybe DeAndre
Speaker 2: Hopkins ends up there and then you feel a lot better.
Speaker 2: But will they look back with a lot of regret
Speaker 2: if this upcoming season ends like last season and they're like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, we had the warning when the Bengals
Speaker 2: beat us up in are in Buffalo, right, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, like, and we didn't really.
Speaker 3: Attack, So anyway, I hear that. You're right, they're going
Speaker 3: for different things. I put them all on one scale.
Speaker 3: But the Jets, to me, have a higher kind of
Speaker 3: high wire act where it's like they could theoretically win
Speaker 3: seven or eight games. So you're right, like their bar
Speaker 3: if they win a playoff game, they win eleven games,
Speaker 3: but they their urgency to me to do at least
Speaker 3: that is like the highest of any league, because if
Speaker 3: they if they if it got ugly there, it's a
Speaker 3: tough division. If they won seven or eight games, it's
Speaker 3: just going to be a total disaster. Of course, if
Speaker 3: the Bills won seven or eight games, that would be
Speaker 3: a total disaster too, but they'd still have Josh Allen
Speaker 3: and I just can't imagine them actually doing that. Bills
Speaker 3: fans try to enjoy this, though the whole George Steinbrenner thing.
Speaker 1: Is getting antsy.
Speaker 2: Though Bills fans are antsy, I know, but this is
Speaker 2: been promised for a couple of years now that it's
Speaker 2: gonna last forever.
Speaker 3: If you win twelve games and you lose in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: at least enjoy the twelve games. Enjoy the enjoy the
Speaker 3: way there.
Speaker 2: It's not a coincidence either that we led with two
Speaker 2: a AFC East teams. I think it's the best division
Speaker 2: in football right now because of the rosters, the talent
Speaker 2: on the rosters. But it meet and it meets this
Speaker 2: urgency overload because I also have the Dolphins at eight
Speaker 2: and a half in this exercise, okay, because they're they're
Speaker 2: fully loaded and ready to go, but now they just
Speaker 2: got to go. And the Patriots, Greg, this is why
Speaker 2: it's they are not a super Bowl or bus team.
Speaker 2: But I put them at eight because and I put
Speaker 2: them in their own category, Greg, They're the only team
Speaker 2: that had their own tier.
Speaker 1: I had them in the Foxboro Triangle and that's.
Speaker 3: We weren't going to be special the Patriots and we
Speaker 3: got our own team.
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, maybe things are changing that Belichick Craft Mac
Speaker 2: Jones Foxborough Triangle. I think a lot can change if
Speaker 2: they have a bad year and they need to show growth.
Speaker 2: With Bill O'Brien at OC and all the positive reports
Speaker 2: coming out of there, that has to translate.
Speaker 1: Where did you have the Pats.
Speaker 3: In this I had them ranked eighth and just below
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. Kind of a tie a tie there among
Speaker 3: a bunch of teams. But yeah, now that I look
Speaker 3: at it. I had four of my eight most urgent
Speaker 3: teams were in that division. I think the Dolphins are
Speaker 3: an interesting one too, because I know Tyreek Hill is
Speaker 3: so important. I just don't think Tyreek Hill is going
Speaker 3: to last forever and just sort of be in a
Speaker 3: perfect spot. So I do think that's an urgent situation.
Speaker 3: And the Patriots, yeah, when when the coach has to
Speaker 3: win and it's in a tough spot, I think they
Speaker 3: have a lot of urgency. So it's a you know
Speaker 3: that someone's gonna leave this division incredibly disappointed. I suppose,
Speaker 3: you know, there's a scenario. I guess the Patriots win
Speaker 3: nine games and are still in fourth place, and I
Speaker 3: guess that's where everyone's roughly happy. But that's hard to.
Speaker 2: Imagine, and I don't think that leads to some huge
Speaker 2: blow up. But yeah, I think that's kind of generally seen.
Speaker 2: Their ceiling could be about ten wins or so.
Speaker 3: Your schedule is brutal, especially out of the gates. It's
Speaker 3: urgent there, people are people are fighting in OTAs. You
Speaker 3: don't really hear that too often.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know Belichick loves that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he likes it. Got a real TV.
Speaker 1: So my Steinbrunner principal had the Bills the Bengals for
Speaker 1: similar reasons.
Speaker 2: The Bills and the like football, like football season, all
Speaker 2: the things that go with it. Also with the Bengals,
Speaker 2: as we've talked about on the show, have had that
Speaker 2: core in place for several years on offense and that's
Speaker 2: not going to last forever. And they've been knocking on
Speaker 2: the door for a couple of years now, including a
Speaker 2: near Super Bowl win. I think it's this idea to
Speaker 2: get over the hump as much as our QB says
Speaker 2: their windows his whole career, and the Eagles already have
Speaker 2: the Eagles in this exercise because I think their urgency
Speaker 2: is sky high.
Speaker 1: For me, in fact, I had them near the top
Speaker 1: of my list.
Speaker 2: I got them a cool nine out of ten, and
Speaker 2: I understand they're set up well for beyond this upcoming year.
Speaker 1: But also, like the other factor is like this is
Speaker 1: a water down conference.
Speaker 2: Another team that was knocking at the door last year
Speaker 2: with a MVP level young quarterback, and you had that
Speaker 2: defense that might even be better this year, and everything
Speaker 2: seems so perfectly lined up that this feels like you know,
Speaker 2: in the NFL, things changed quickly, so the iron. Here
Speaker 2: is hot, strike it, get that w get over the hump.
Speaker 2: I think they were at a nine out of ten.
Speaker 3: Fit, yeah, I had I had them at eight and
Speaker 3: a half, and they were my fifth ranked team in
Speaker 3: terms of urgency, so right towards the top, and you're
Speaker 3: absolutely right. You know how they remind me of is
Speaker 3: the twenty eighteen Eagles and the twenty seventeen Falcons. Those
Speaker 3: were two teams that coming into the season everyone was like,
Speaker 3: that's the best roster in the league, and both of
Speaker 3: those teams ended up making it back to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I think they even each they each win one game,
Speaker 3: but it still was hard to recapture that magic. And
Speaker 3: sometimes it looks so perfect on paper. They were ahead
Speaker 3: of schedule a year ago. Now is the year I
Speaker 3: think was their push year where they really thought they
Speaker 3: were going to be great. They did a good job
Speaker 3: keeping as many people there as they could, including Graham
Speaker 3: and Flesher, Cox and James Bradbury and Slay like it's
Speaker 3: not going to stay together. I'm with you, especially with
Speaker 3: that conference. They're the most urgent of any NFC team.
Speaker 2: I had the Cowboys right with him because we talked
Speaker 2: about a little bit Zotti before and maybe there's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a I don't want to call say
Speaker 2: bad blood between Jarrah and McCarthy, but McCarthy's putting it
Speaker 2: out there that this is his team more than ever
Speaker 2: and if.
Speaker 1: They take a step back or Dak takes a step back.
Speaker 2: I think you and I definitely differed on Dak a
Speaker 2: little bit because I read in your projected starters that
Speaker 2: you kind of labeled him. I can't remember what you said,
Speaker 2: like a top QB or something where I feel like
Speaker 2: there's enough evidence that maybe he should be a little
Speaker 2: bit lower in that conversation, but.
Speaker 3: Like in the seven to ten range, but that's a
Speaker 3: solidly ahead of like the Kirk Cousins in the Tannehills
Speaker 3: a holder.
Speaker 1: That's where I disagree a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think I think last year was a weird year
Speaker 3: in terms of perceptions.
Speaker 2: But not that he's going to lose his job, but
Speaker 2: there could be Mike McCarthy's facing a lot of pressure
Speaker 2: and they're a team that you know, cannot get over
Speaker 2: the hump, cannot get into the NFC title game, and
Speaker 2: you kind of I get the feeling that with Jerry
Speaker 2: Jones now in his eighties that if this thing doesn't
Speaker 2: get them, if they don't get to the final four
Speaker 2: this year, there's going to be changes there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should move them up a little. I had
Speaker 3: them too low. They just seem so happy and they're fine.
Speaker 3: But you're right with the coach possibly losing his job
Speaker 3: was important to me on this urgency scale. Well, that's
Speaker 3: why I have one team that we haven't brought I
Speaker 3: have two teams, but one I had the only other
Speaker 3: one I had over nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have not brought up, and that is the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Yep, I had him in the nine as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, they're in my top five, just because I
Speaker 3: just think even if the outside expectations aren't as high,
Speaker 3: the ownership expectations are going to be sky high. They
Speaker 3: need to show something for this Deshaun Watson trade. I
Speaker 3: don't think the Hopkins is gonna happen. It sounded like
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson was pushing that was hot for a minute there.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna happen. But they did bring
Speaker 3: in Zidarius, but they don't have a lot of huge holes.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good roster. So I just think
Speaker 3: their playoffs are bust at the at the least in
Speaker 3: the urgency is sky high. Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 2: Lot of reason for optimism there, but also I think
Speaker 2: a creeping sense of dread because Watson could get everyone fired.
Speaker 1: And if that, if.
Speaker 2: Watson stinks and they fall in their face this year,
Speaker 2: it will make the Cleveland Browns a different kind of
Speaker 2: eternal laughing stock because that will go down in history
Speaker 2: as that that will absolutely be in the conversation.
Speaker 1: We're not getting aheaded into that or trying to take it.
Speaker 3: It's still got four years left on the deal.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, if this was truly, if this cratered,
Speaker 2: it would be in the herschel Walker conversation. Like so
Speaker 2: until we get until we're it's proven and you're pushing
Speaker 2: the DeShawn might not be good card a little hard
Speaker 2: than I am. I'm just saying it's kind of out
Speaker 2: there until it's not at all. So there's a lot
Speaker 2: of urgency for this season to produce results.
Speaker 3: And by herschel washer Walker, you mean the trade, not
Speaker 3: him embarrassing himself as a public figure afterwards, because.
Speaker 2: I know I a lot to block out his his
Speaker 2: what was it run for congrein Senate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that did not.
Speaker 2: Nobody was covered in glory connected to that on his
Speaker 2: side of things. But as a good running back, Yes,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys set up their dynasty with a trade with
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vice.
Speaker 3: I've settled it on like, Watson's probably more likely than
Speaker 3: not to be an above average quarterback, right, but being
Speaker 3: like the thirteenth best quarterback in the league, that trade
Speaker 3: is a fiasco. If even if that happens, I know
Speaker 3: he's not going to be the thirtieth best quarterback in
Speaker 3: the league. Again, that that would be crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be if they're not contending for a
Speaker 2: playoff s butt in January. It's everyone's very nervous around there.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Let me see a team that we haven't discussed.
Speaker 2: Where did you have the Chargers? I had them at
Speaker 2: eight and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had them at eight. They were like tenth
Speaker 3: on my list because they've gotten to the playoffs, they've
Speaker 3: had a winning record under Brandon Staley, but the defense
Speaker 3: has shown no ability to get better. You have Justin
Speaker 3: Herbert still on his rookie contract. I feel like they're
Speaker 3: in perennial. They're like always the same. They've probably been
Speaker 3: at this level for years, like ownership is not when
Speaker 3: is that not good enough? Like I feel like ownership
Speaker 3: is fine with them just doing this year after year.
Speaker 3: So it's not quite as urgent. But I'm feeling the urgency.
Speaker 2: Well, Brandon ste Staley's feeling urgency, right, I mean they
Speaker 2: they had a historic meltdown in the playoff game. That's
Speaker 2: you know, that's gonna wipe away all any goodwill. And
Speaker 2: they have a roster that on paper is ready to
Speaker 2: compete and at a certain point, and less ownership is
Speaker 2: disconnected and doesn't care that much about seeing tangible progress.
Speaker 1: You would think they need to.
Speaker 2: Get back to the playoffs and yeah and not you know,
Speaker 2: lay like an embarrassing egg in January for the coach
Speaker 2: to be back.
Speaker 3: Right, I would think so. And I worry for Brandon
Speaker 3: Stey because on paper of the defense looks worse to me,
Speaker 3: and he hasn't been able to coach up the defense
Speaker 3: at all. I have one team though, ahead of the
Speaker 3: charges that we haven't hit in my top six.
Speaker 2: Okay, we haven't even mentioned him. The Washington Commanders, Oh,
Speaker 2: they're low for me.
Speaker 3: I mean they anytime a new owner is coming in,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's urgent time. I know our expectations
Speaker 3: aren't crazy high, but I feel like he's got to
Speaker 3: make the playoffs or everything gets blown up there.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been the name. It might not stay around.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to make everything just the
Speaker 2: QB conversation. But Sam Howell versus Jacoby Brissett doesn't scream
Speaker 2: team urgent to have a big season or else like.
Speaker 2: It seems like a team that's very purposely, you know,
Speaker 2: sitting in the marina with the boat neutral, waiting for
Speaker 2: things to settle before they really dive in next year. Sure,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's good news for Ron
Speaker 2: River or the worst news possible.
Speaker 3: I think it's the worst news possible.
Speaker 2: I think if you're docked in the marina, bro, you're
Speaker 2: a six or lower for me. I mean, are they
Speaker 2: on the high seas?
Speaker 3: I'm putting them out on the high seas? You put
Speaker 3: them on the high seats. I mean, they've got a
Speaker 3: lot of veterans on the team, they don't have a
Speaker 3: lot of huge weaknesses. They're paying a lot of money.
Speaker 3: I know they don't have any quarterbacks, but I guess
Speaker 3: if it was coach urgency rankings. I feel like he
Speaker 3: would be in the top five because he when a
Speaker 3: new owner comes in, he's he's lived this life before.
Speaker 3: Same thing happened in Carolina. He's got to win now
Speaker 3: or else they blow it up.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have a big name quarterback next
Speaker 2: We'll be talking about this time next year.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: But that's why I kind of have them a little lower.
Speaker 2: I have, you know, the team the division that has
Speaker 2: the least urgency.
Speaker 1: Which is kind of funny. The idea of an entire division.
Speaker 2: Be like, eh, the NFC sound yes, the Bucks? I
Speaker 2: have at a three excited you know what are the
Speaker 2: Baker versus Kyle Trask. They have a weird roster with
Speaker 2: a bunch of veterans, but no Tom Brady anymore.
Speaker 1: They kept the head coach there.
Speaker 2: I guess there's some coach urgency there to show they
Speaker 2: can grow, especially on defense, but they're not necessarily set
Speaker 2: up for success there or.
Speaker 1: Either, Greg, Like, how do you even make sense to
Speaker 1: them now?
Speaker 3: I put them out a five just because they have
Speaker 3: an older GM and coach and some veterans on that team,
Speaker 3: But that whole division to me didn't seem that lack
Speaker 3: of urgent. I had the Saints and the Falcons pretty high.
Speaker 3: They're pretty much up next after Chargers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of did too. Actually, I gotta sorry.
Speaker 1: I had the Falcons. That's seven and a half, so
Speaker 1: I should take walk back a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're They're in year three of this process,
Speaker 3: and I feel like they have to show something. I
Speaker 3: feel like Dennis Allen has to show something. They're really
Speaker 3: talking up a big game in New Orleans like that.
Speaker 3: They're the favorites of that division. I feel like the
Speaker 3: AFC South is the divisi where there's no urgency. I
Speaker 3: don't have anyone above a five. I got the Jaguars
Speaker 3: at four. Even the Jaguars, it doesn't feel that urgent.
Speaker 3: They could fuss around.
Speaker 2: I got the Jags of the six and a half,
Speaker 2: the Titans at six and a half, Cults at five,
Speaker 2: Texans at six.
Speaker 3: Whoa, we're on our own little scale. So I get
Speaker 3: the Jaguars at four, the Texans, Titans three. Right now
Speaker 3: at the bottom of my whole list because I feel
Speaker 3: like all these teams could kind of mess around this year.
Speaker 3: If the Jaguars took a big step back, it would
Speaker 3: be frustrating, But They're a relatively young team with a
Speaker 3: young quarterback, and Peterson has some rope. And then the
Speaker 3: other teams all have rookie quarterbacks and new situations, either
Speaker 3: new head coaches or in the Titans case, at least
Speaker 3: a new general manager. So it's like a lot of
Speaker 3: teams that are just starting from scratch.
Speaker 1: There's a little sub.
Speaker 2: NFC North category I want to introduce, like be a grower,
Speaker 2: be a shower. The Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: I don't think either team, although the Lions. I think
Speaker 2: it's expected that the Lions now make the playoffs, which
Speaker 2: just feels like a weird thing to say, but they
Speaker 2: are expected to take that jump. But I don't know
Speaker 2: if people get fired if they don't make it, and
Speaker 2: I don't expect them to creter either. And the Bears,
Speaker 2: I think I agreed with their whole esthetic this offseason,
Speaker 2: which is get behind justin fields and then help him out.
Speaker 2: And I think you saw that in both free agency
Speaker 2: and in the draft, and it helps I guess for
Speaker 2: them that they they're starting from such a low point
Speaker 2: that there's going to be progress. You'd think there is
Speaker 2: a Matt Ebraflus question that has that conversation that has
Speaker 2: to be had here, and I think that's where why
Speaker 2: I have them maybe a little higher.
Speaker 1: I have the Bears at seven for that reason. A
Speaker 1: lot of ebra flu seven and a half.
Speaker 3: I have them, Actually I got them at six and
Speaker 3: a half. I got the Packers at seven, and I
Speaker 3: have the Lions the highest in that division at seven
Speaker 3: and a half because the reason I think they're feeling
Speaker 3: urgent is like now's the time, Like they've never gone
Speaker 3: into a season with this much hype. They are set
Speaker 3: up well for a while, but a division title would
Speaker 3: mean so much to that city and to that organization,
Speaker 3: and it's all set up for them. They are literally
Speaker 3: the favorites. They have great line play. It's kind of
Speaker 3: exactly what they've been building tour is this moment, and
Speaker 3: so I feel like that is urgent. If they had
Speaker 3: like an eight and nine season and came in second
Speaker 3: in that division, weirdly, it'd be a pretty big letdown
Speaker 3: the Lions.
Speaker 2: The Lions, Yeah, I think I agree with you. I
Speaker 2: agree with you. I'm with you on that. I don't
Speaker 2: know the Packers surprising me. You have them a little
Speaker 2: higher than I do. I have them at a five,
Speaker 2: the same as the Vikings, where it's you know, there's
Speaker 2: like success is kind of hard to even calibrate what
Speaker 2: the Packers you want to. Obviously see the quarterback show
Speaker 2: tangible signs of growth, But I don't think the power
Speaker 2: structure is in doubt there. It's true, and I think
Speaker 2: love is going to get at least one year here.
Speaker 3: There's the whole like prove Aaron Rodgers wrong thing that
Speaker 3: makes it feel a little more gurent. The fan base
Speaker 3: there makes it feel a little more adjurent. I had
Speaker 3: the Vikings thirty first on my list out of thirty
Speaker 3: two teams two and a half. I'm giving him. You
Speaker 3: cut Dalvin Cook, you trade Zdaria Smith. You're trying to
Speaker 3: trade Daniel Hunter. You're coming off total found money with
Speaker 3: a thirteen win season, and then your coach and your
Speaker 3: GM is in total job security mode, which is great.
Speaker 3: I think they should be. They did a great job
Speaker 3: there a year too. I had them all the way
Speaker 3: at the bottom, only above the thirty second team, which
Speaker 3: I assume we have the same team.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop the Vikings to a three. Wow, it's
Speaker 2: such a great case. Yeah, the Cardinals, I had to
Speaker 2: stick at a zero point zero just there, and that's
Speaker 2: not even a kind of is a takedown, but it's
Speaker 2: also like just it is what it is, like there's
Speaker 2: no urgency to win this year and they are playing
Speaker 2: for next year. They're the textbook definition of a team
Speaker 2: that isn't playing or you know, playing with any sense
Speaker 2: of urgency for the upcoming season.
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's a hip piece.
Speaker 3: No, Colt McCoy is scheduled to be their starter. Their
Speaker 3: fan base will be happy if they win four or
Speaker 3: five games or cause violence.
Speaker 1: They just got like bored of DeAndre Hopkins and they're
Speaker 1: just like a I get them.
Speaker 3: Out of here a couple urgency. I wonder if I'm
Speaker 3: sure the fan base is listening would disagree. But the
Speaker 3: only other teams that we haven't mentioned that I have
Speaker 3: below five. I said the whole my whole AFC South,
Speaker 3: other than actually my entire AFC South is but I
Speaker 3: have the Giants pretty low because I think they're kind
Speaker 3: of similar to the Vikings that they're just like found
Speaker 3: money and if they took a step back, everyone kind
Speaker 3: of gets it as long as they'd show some like
Speaker 3: growth and talent. I have the Panthers low number one
Speaker 3: overall quarterback. Just how he looks is the most important thing.
Speaker 3: But they don't need to win this year, and then
Speaker 3: the Rams, I guess, have to be low even though
Speaker 3: they have Cooper, Cup and Donald. How can they feel
Speaker 3: like what they're doing is urgent? Next year is urgent
Speaker 3: for them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have them at a seven, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: really figure out what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But I'm not alone.
Speaker 2: Everyone's trying to kind of figure out the Rams plan
Speaker 2: of attack this year.
Speaker 3: It's like a gap year, you know, you like take
Speaker 3: a year off of college and you just like go
Speaker 3: travel the world and then you come back and try
Speaker 3: to hit it hard.
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't do that, but that's something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it seems like it would have been cool the gap
Speaker 2: Rams here. We should do gap years in this country.
Speaker 3: Just like as as a profession, like as once you.
Speaker 2: What is that the post university European thing to do?
Speaker 2: Like you graduate and then you just take a year
Speaker 2: off and you see help us out overseas listeners, because
Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. And then you get
Speaker 2: to be that you get to backpack and go stay
Speaker 2: at hostels and things of that nature and then you
Speaker 2: then you start your career.
Speaker 3: Hey, with this economy, you might not have a choice.
Speaker 2: So this guy gets it all right, let's good conversation.
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to hit there and check out
Speaker 2: NFL dot com next week. I think I'll have something
Speaker 2: up on this looking forward. Did we miss anything? I
Speaker 2: feel like we didn't. I feel like we hit everything
Speaker 2: we needed.
Speaker 3: To there at almost every team. I've got the Broncos
Speaker 3: and the Steelers square in the middle of my my
Speaker 3: urgency rankings, just like middle tier Ravens where you get
Speaker 3: the Ravens, they're like upper middle class, you know, upper
Speaker 3: middle Samesy.
Speaker 1: Samesy's let's bring in Frags Frags behind the glass. Wow,
Speaker 1: she's from the newsroom.
Speaker 2: She's gonna come sit in because, uh well, let's get
Speaker 2: our seated here, ladies and gentlemen. Alexandra fre Golf, Wow,
Speaker 2: the legend herself. Yes, get situated.
Speaker 1: Frags.
Speaker 3: Frags has joined the show before, but only behind the glass.
Speaker 3: So this is a first, but very often the shantouse
Speaker 3: on our on our drops.
Speaker 1: Well said, you are the shantoose of around the NFL.
Speaker 1: Alex how are you?
Speaker 7: I'm great? I was not told that this was on camera. Thanks, guys.
Speaker 2: So that's cute at a certain Dan, I mean, you
Speaker 2: could say it's on Dan Frags, but at this certain
Speaker 2: point we do the show in a studio with lighting
Speaker 2: and cameras on us.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but every other time I've just stood behind the glass,
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 2: And I thought this would be a good way to
Speaker 2: to make things a little bit more direct.
Speaker 1: But can I apologize? Do you want to go behind
Speaker 1: the glass?
Speaker 3: I accept your apo in the past that has been
Speaker 3: behind the glass, but don't worry, Like, in no way
Speaker 3: are our listeners weirdos and the ones that only listen
Speaker 3: to audio usually like, there's no way they're going to
Speaker 3: go to the YouTube just to see what's going on
Speaker 3: with Frags.
Speaker 2: Okay, way to make un comfortable, Greg, all right, Frags,
Speaker 2: Now this is a good color.
Speaker 3: That was more. That was more a shot at our list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listeners be normal people, you know, Okay, Frags you
Speaker 2: are And we've worked together forever, right, I mean since very.
Speaker 1: Long time, twenty ten.
Speaker 7: That's showing my age, but yes, samesis.
Speaker 3: But it is what it is well for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the one thing you got to know about
Speaker 2: Frags is she is a traveler, a world traveler, in fact, yes,
Speaker 2: and I thought, with summer right around the corner, our
Speaker 2: listeners who are all normal and not at all creepy
Speaker 2: are going to really benefit from Frags giving some tips
Speaker 2: for summer travel.
Speaker 1: Before we say goodbye today head into the weekends. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to see you up. Okay you have
Speaker 1: a yes.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just gonna say relax, everybody, smile and watch
Speaker 2: your worries wash away.
Speaker 1: On the white sand beaches of Fragola Town.
Speaker 7: You said, bellissimo, belissima, Belizi.
Speaker 3: We'll work on your travel tips with Freckle.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, do you want to go down a list?
Speaker 1: How many guys?
Speaker 7: I mean, you didn't really give me a lot of
Speaker 7: info just by travel tip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about number one?
Speaker 7: Here's some stuff travel like credit card dot doesn't exist,
Speaker 7: because it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, go on like flesh.
Speaker 7: It out, go to Venice, Italy because it's not going
Speaker 7: to be there forever.
Speaker 3: Just go.
Speaker 7: Have credit card debt. It won't matter.
Speaker 2: So just open up that that extra card, max it
Speaker 2: out if you have.
Speaker 7: To make sure it has points and lounge access.
Speaker 3: Feels irresponsible, but you're a travel advisor, not a financial advisor,
Speaker 3: that's an importants.
Speaker 7: No one would ever bring me on their podcast to discuss,
Speaker 7: and if they.
Speaker 3: Would, I like that. Though, You're right, these places there there,
Speaker 3: There's only so much in your life that you can
Speaker 3: squeeze them all in. You better get working at it
Speaker 3: exactly all right.
Speaker 1: So just to put a bow on that.
Speaker 2: One, spend money, have fun now, worry about the financial
Speaker 2: consequences later.
Speaker 1: Tip number two from life Advice. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 7: I let me see, okay, let me give you something Chao, Oh,
Speaker 7: we'll give you something Italian Okay, just actually okay. Side note,
Speaker 7: I'm going to Italy in about two and a half weeks.
Speaker 7: And who I'm going to hang out with there David.
Speaker 2: Ely whoaly himself in Italy and his friends nearly another
Speaker 2: newsroom staple for years with.
Speaker 3: The listeners here, A huge fan, wow, big Panthers fan.
Speaker 7: So I was just telling him that in Italy you
Speaker 7: are not to order a cappuccino.
Speaker 1: Afternoon after the new hour.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's tip number two.
Speaker 7: That is a breakfast drink. You will be embarrassed at
Speaker 7: the Italian bar if you ask for anything older than
Speaker 7: an espresso.
Speaker 2: This is so important because define embarrassed well, you just
Speaker 2: get a look like oh the American.
Speaker 7: You might get a like an absolutely not. I mean
Speaker 7: it depends how easily.
Speaker 1: Oh they might say no they.
Speaker 2: Could see Greg, I want to start spreading my wings.
Speaker 7: And seeing other things people were depends what.
Speaker 1: You Italians are.
Speaker 3: How many times have you been to Italy?
Speaker 7: Have probably been to Italy like six or seven?
Speaker 3: You really do travel at Wait, so you were in
Speaker 3: Japan this offseason? Yes, which Korea?
Speaker 7: Finally enough, I was just saying you never sent me
Speaker 7: travel tips for oom and this guy was supposed to
Speaker 7: hook me up with Tokyo travel.
Speaker 3: Tips and oh he promised it on top and he
Speaker 3: did not. Well, I don't know if I promised it,
Speaker 3: but that would I guess be. Another tip is ask
Speaker 3: someone who travels there a lot for tips ahead of time.
Speaker 1: Just not Gregy.
Speaker 3: It's just not.
Speaker 7: Do not ask Greg for travel tip all right.
Speaker 2: Travel tip number oh to put a bow on that one.
Speaker 2: Do not order a cappuccino after twelve o'clock noon. You
Speaker 2: may get looks, You might even get denied a real
Speaker 2: social no.
Speaker 7: No number three number three okay, a really practical one, yeah,
Speaker 7: fantastic one. City Mapper City Mapper it's a fantastic app.
Speaker 7: You basically it has different cities in it. It works
Speaker 7: all over the world. It depends on what city you're in.
Speaker 7: But like Japan, they had it for Kyoto and Tokyo,
Speaker 7: they had it for Soul, they have it all over
Speaker 7: London they have.
Speaker 3: It here, and you're in London. Where else?
Speaker 7: That's all I've been.
Speaker 1: Well that's a lot. That's it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you just put in where you're going,
Speaker 7: where you are, where you're trying to get to, and
Speaker 7: it gives you like how much a taxi would cost,
Speaker 7: how much an uber would cost, gives you all the
Speaker 7: transportation options, how it'll take, how long it could take
Speaker 7: to walk?
Speaker 3: Better than ways?
Speaker 7: Oh my god, infinitely better because it gives you all
Speaker 7: the public transportation. It'll give you your tube stop city.
Speaker 7: So that's actually practical.
Speaker 1: Tip, that's extremely practical.
Speaker 3: Use that in Tokyo because I didn't tell you how.
Speaker 7: Because you didn't tell me anything.
Speaker 3: So that's a manage. Though, how was I had been
Speaker 3: to Tokyo before I was.
Speaker 7: It was fantastic. I got a tattoo, Well, I got
Speaker 7: a tattoo in Kyoto.
Speaker 2: But Strawberry very nice, well done and I'm kind of
Speaker 2: a little bonus. How do you handle Tokyo, for instance,
Speaker 2: the language divide.
Speaker 7: Ah, so many people speak English there, okay, And I
Speaker 7: will say they see me walking down the street, no
Speaker 7: one expects me to speak Japanese.
Speaker 1: So it's quite you know, Japanese.
Speaker 7: No, they don't expect me to so I'm fine, No
Speaker 7: one's no one's going to speak like rapid fire Japanese
Speaker 7: to me, whereas in Europe, I feel like frequently people
Speaker 7: will speak I.
Speaker 2: Hope everyone's listening. These are really good tips, okay, and
Speaker 2: that one is it's okay. You could be a little
Speaker 2: nervous if you don't know the language, but be aware.
Speaker 2: A lot of people in other parts of the world
Speaker 2: do speak multiple languages, so a little.
Speaker 3: Wit say that our country. It depends like you don't
Speaker 3: want to get too far, you don't want to get
Speaker 3: outside of Tokyo, and yes, start going to some.
Speaker 1: Some coyoto ho Kyato for instance, I don't want to
Speaker 1: go there.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, you know, you don't want to
Speaker 3: be going to some hot spring hotels. I've found myself
Speaker 3: in certain situations where my lack of English definitely definitely
Speaker 3: hurts me.
Speaker 7: I would also.
Speaker 1: Say, are you doing on your Japanese, Greg, It's non existent.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, also, if you speak a little
Speaker 7: bit of a language, be prepared that people are going
Speaker 7: to speak to you like your fluent rapid fire the
Speaker 7: moment kind of little backfire situation could backfire on you
Speaker 7: a little bit.
Speaker 1: All right, Number four.
Speaker 7: Okay, this is where I stopped preparing. That's how we
Speaker 7: handle those book book tickets to like famous things, way
Speaker 7: ahead of time, so that you don't have to wait.
Speaker 7: Like if you wait in line to buy tickets for
Speaker 7: The Love, it'll take you an extra two hours and
Speaker 7: it's miserable and you don't want to do that, especially
Speaker 7: if it's summer, So don't do that. Also, crazy scorching
Speaker 7: hot take, I think The Love is overrated.
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, it's beautiful.
Speaker 7: I hate impression to start another hot take. But a
Speaker 7: beautiful museum and less crowded.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with anoid louve it all another
Speaker 3: hot take. Got it In terms of travel, to tell
Speaker 3: you know, with with maybe rare exceptions, don't wait for anything.
Speaker 3: Life's too short for just about anything. It's a huge city,
Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to see everything that
Speaker 3: they have, but there will be more to see. Don't
Speaker 3: bother if you invite there's a two hour wait.
Speaker 2: In a similar but different context, if you invite me
Speaker 2: anywhere and it's like, oh, you got to wait on
Speaker 2: the line to get is, I'm not going, and you
Speaker 2: know kind of if you for inviting me to a
Speaker 2: place where I have to wait on the line. Finally,
Speaker 2: number five, Remember number four, do not go to the
Speaker 2: louver under any circumstances. Number five the final tip travel
Speaker 2: tip from Frags.
Speaker 7: Don't ask for ice in foreign countries, not not because
Speaker 7: ice is bad anything like that, but because it is
Speaker 7: a very uniquely American ask like ice for your water.
Speaker 7: Why do you want ice for your water? This is
Speaker 7: a ridiculous American request.
Speaker 1: I have because you know, Daddy likes to have a Tito's.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's different.
Speaker 1: That's on. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: When I go to London for our trips and I
Speaker 2: order one at the bar, there's like two like half
Speaker 2: melted ice cubes floating on top of my teetos. And
Speaker 2: I make my teitos and the tips I always give
Speaker 2: here's a little tip. There's a little behind the bar
Speaker 2: tip from old zeuser. This is how you make the drink.
Speaker 2: You fill it up with ice, then you do a
Speaker 2: five second poor that will take your ice down about halfway,
Speaker 2: but keep it icy, and then put your topper on
Speaker 2: and then you have a delicious, fizzy, icy, delicious cocktail.
Speaker 7: Well all the but you're not gonna get that of London.
Speaker 7: We'll be listening to.
Speaker 1: This, but I could use a drink. I gotta say
Speaker 1: bonus tip.
Speaker 7: Don't drink tequila in London. Drink with the locals. Drink
Speaker 7: just you know, okay, drink soak in Japan, drink sojin Korea.
Speaker 1: Drink water warm beer.
Speaker 7: Drink warm beer in London, although they will tell you
Speaker 7: not all their beer is warm.
Speaker 1: It is not many types.
Speaker 3: That's a good. That's a good. That's the best piece
Speaker 3: of advice. Just eat what's the specialized with.
Speaker 1: The yeah and get it, ladies and gentlemen. Alexander Frogle
Speaker 1: can I go yeah.
Speaker 3: I apologize if we didn't warn you enough and if
Speaker 3: I made it uncomfortable in any way.
Speaker 7: It's uh, this is the only thing I actually know.
Speaker 1: About, so well, that's why we had you a honest you.
Speaker 7: Guys want to talk about clothes. I got that covered.
Speaker 2: That will be your next appearance on the show, Frags.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We will be back on I
Speaker 2: don't know, Monday. It sounds about right, you're back on Monday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you could go, Frags. Great seeing you with another episode.
Speaker 2: We'll have the gang back together as we turned through
Speaker 2: the off season. Anything else, scregg before we say goodbye?
Speaker 3: No, I think that's it.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: I mean my own travel tip. Here's an underrated way
Speaker 3: to do it. Just don't have many plans at all.
Speaker 3: Just go just be in that city and sort of
Speaker 3: try to have it. You know, you don't have to
Speaker 3: see everything, but people are wired differently. But if you
Speaker 3: just sort of have a day where you're bouncing around
Speaker 3: and it's not all planned out, I feel like it
Speaker 3: works out better that way, less stressful.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: You could add that as well to the notes, don't overplan,
Speaker 2: don't spend your whole time on like a tour bus.
Speaker 1: I like it, all right, Good stuff, joy your weekend,
Speaker 1: Heed the call.