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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. The history is rich. It's sures.

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Speaker 2: Ten years from the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hansis I got a hero here, Gregi Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: It is all.

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Speaker 2: It's almost weird to talk about how the history is

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Speaker 2: rich without Colleen the originally or said statement.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get through it.

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Speaker 3: Also weird when you call me Gregy. That was really

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Speaker 3: only a Debbie Rosenthal thing, but now it's popping up.

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Speaker 3: My kids sometimes call me GREGI here there or my daughter.

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Speaker 3: Really just it's disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, I feel like I've called you Gregi for a

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Speaker 1: couple years.

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Speaker 3: You've you've been in the next ten years ago this

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Speaker 3: month actually right? Is that right? June eighth? June eighth

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Speaker 3: is the day as we're taping. I moved out here

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Speaker 3: June first, so you're there.

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Speaker 2: It is jupin first, And that was twenty twelve. Twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: July is when we started Around the NFL as a

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Speaker 2: foursome the podcast.

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Speaker 1: That is how about that?

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Speaker 3: Like a month later twenty thirteen, I was out here.

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Speaker 3: Wes came out a year month was it? One month later? No,

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Speaker 3: I started with the NFL that year before. But I

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Speaker 3: had that weird year in New York, and West was

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Speaker 3: hired and Tybee got it. I came out in June.

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Speaker 3: He came out in July, and we were we were

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Speaker 3: recording like three weeks later.

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Speaker 1: Crazy. Today Mark is on a quest of some kind.

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Speaker 3: We don't ask it questions, where's Mark spiritual?

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Speaker 2: Perhaps it's perhaps spiritual. I was out on Monday. I

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Speaker 2: hope everything went well. Mark should be back next week.

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Speaker 3: If everything goes well with his quest, I feel confident

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Speaker 3: I'll be back now.

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Speaker 2: I think just a couple of his friends are in town,

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Speaker 2: he said. So it's I don't want to get people

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Speaker 2: nervous like Greg that Mark went into like a commune

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Speaker 2: or something that will happen.

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Speaker 1: Just it's not.

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Speaker 3: Yet, or like started leading the cult that I've rumored

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Speaker 3: that right possible at.

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Speaker 2: Some point if we get Here's our promise to the

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Speaker 2: listeners about Mark.

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Speaker 3: Why are we talking about If uh it goes badly.

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Speaker 2: Mark starts wearing red sneakers or starts to give off

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Speaker 2: vibes of cult leader in a tangible way, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: give you a heads up so it doesn't you don't

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Speaker 2: get blindsided because the show got blindsided recently. Nobody likes

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Speaker 2: getting blindsided. We will make sure that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: With Mark entering the Cult. Now, today's show, we got

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Speaker 1: actually some news, Greggy.

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Speaker 3: That's not bad for June eighth. There's some actual stuff

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Speaker 3: to talk about. I think it was all the mini

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Speaker 3: But just like made people act, so I'm I'm happy

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Speaker 3: to have an actual chunky news seg mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: And for today's conversation piece, we'll call it urgency the

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Speaker 2: teams that have the most urgency entering twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: We usually call it a SEG. You don't want to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the SEG is we're gonna talk the urgency rankings

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Speaker 2: forward to having it, Gregy, because it's a little uh,

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Speaker 2: It's like it's not just like, oh, everybody, it's like

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Speaker 1: Well, did they, but higher than zero point zero.

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Speaker 2: Cousins back to pass, green left to Dalvin, turns it

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Speaker 2: as he rumbled sixty four yards for a touchdown. The

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Speaker 2: The biggest comeback in NFL history and one kind of

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Speaker 2: a disaster that year. But in the moment, by the

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Speaker 3: It's the greatest comeback in the NFL history. The fact

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Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook that was the man on that play, and

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Speaker 2: career that, at age twenty seven, has already included four

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Speaker 2: Minnesota is over. NFL Network insider Tom Pelisero More and

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Speaker 2: Peli Sero in a moment by the Way, reported that

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Speaker 2: the Vikings and Cook are expected to part ways and

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to go down officially on Friday, unless there

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Speaker 2: open market. Greg a couple of years ago, he's in

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Speaker 3: he's easily the best running back that's actually hit free

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Speaker 2: It's also the age for certain running backs that you

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Speaker 2: they're just looking at their financial situation and saying to themselves,

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Speaker 2: Cutting them after June first allows them to save nine

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Speaker 1: With five million of dead money. This is very much

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Speaker 2: Team that's trying to figure out like where they're going,

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Speaker 3: I get it. I just don't think their total number

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Speaker 3: one objective this year is winning games. He's a fourteen

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Speaker 3: million dollar cap hit Dalvin Cook before this release, so

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Speaker 3: that is lot and I think they maybe are trying

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Speaker 3: sure we'll spend. Mike McCarthy said some very positive statements

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Speaker 2: Bit of a weird depth chart there, especially with a

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Speaker 3: That's interesting, Like he doesn't need to be a three

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Speaker 3: he did play all seventeen games. He really hasn't missed

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Speaker 3: that play out. Adam Thielen, who's a stalwart there, they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've heard and yeah, this one's pretty

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Speaker 3: I guess it was inevitable. I didn't really see this coming,

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Speaker 3: But you would have thought that already. And the Colts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, other thank anymore. I don't think we're going to

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Speaker 2: see him for a while. NFL Networks Tom Pellissero, There

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Speaker 2: he is again. Reports the Titans summer of I know,

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Speaker 2: are hosting DeAndre Hopkins for a visit. It was confirmed

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Speaker 3: Little spicy rabes haven't heard this, not too spicy.

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Speaker 1: Let's just hear from him visit.

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Speaker 5: I mean, is it a recruiting opportunity or like, how

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Speaker 5: do how do does that benefits?

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Speaker 2: Player and the here's the Belichick disciple and a part

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Speaker 5: A reputation from this will be you know again this

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Speaker 5: if that's what you're gonna ask your question about today, Paul,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you another opportunity, but I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: I think he was saying like he has a little

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Speaker 3: then he kind of talking to Julio Jones. He's saying,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I forgot that.

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Speaker 2: Leo Jones was on the Titans for a second there,

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Speaker 2: Kind of digging out Gregie from the AJ Brown mistake

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Speaker 3: I just think it's always Paul. It's always pap. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Larski is the guy that hated the Titoons nickname right.

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Speaker 3: He seems to mix it up with whoever wherever he goes.

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Speaker 3: I get like questioning their idea of signing another aging

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Speaker 1: If they can add him.

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins is. Don't you wish he was on there

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Speaker 3: in March when the piece had juice? Well, yes, and

440
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Speaker 3: I respect our editor al Lei von Purry, but he

441
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 3: sees and Hopkins gets cut or Cook gets cut, He's like, ooh,

442
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Speaker 3: fresh meat. Let's go to another right to put him

443
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: on and then we can put it back into the rotation,

444
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: like here's where Cook.

445
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Speaker 1: Is in other news.

446
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: You know, there's always gonna be a ton of coverage

447
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 2: around the Cowboys, always right, and they're doing their job.

448
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: They do their job as well Jarah and the whole

449
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: organization because they give the national media and the local

450
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: media fresh material. And this is no different this spring

451
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: because they are really pumping up this new offense. They're

452
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: calling it Greg have you heard what they're calling. They're

453
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 2: talking up the Texas Coast offense. I mean, can't you

454
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: just hear Stephen A. Smith screaming right now? And Mike McCarthy.

455
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 2: Zaddy himself has not been shy as you know, talking

456
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: about's underlook exactly, he's puffing his chest out.

457
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: He's calling plays this year.

458
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: And despite Dallas being a highly ranked offense, let's listen

459
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: to Zaddy once again. Given some gruel, thrown in some

460
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: meat into the old churn blend there.

461
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Speaker 6: They need to own offense. You know, I have no

462
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Speaker 6: interest in being known as some guru coach or a

463
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 6: smart coach. I'm a smart Hall of Fame type quarterbacks.

464
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 6: You've got to make them own the offense. And and

465
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 6: you see, he has a personality, but it's just like anything.

466
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Speaker 6: This is our first year of playing the way we

467
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Speaker 6: want to play, and he's done a really good job

468
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Speaker 6: of taking ownership of that. And then with that, you

469
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Speaker 6: know the mental challenges. You know he is, he's knocked

470
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Speaker 6: out of the park.

471
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Speaker 1: The first of all. Kellen Moore, who is in LA

472
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Speaker 1: now at the charge.

473
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Speaker 2: This this narrative that they're spinning out of out of

474
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Speaker 2: the star, that now we get to play that the

475
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Speaker 2: way we want to play. Mike, come back to us,

476
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: you a head coach, Bud like you can't say that

477
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't look good on you. He's saying, now he

478
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: gets to be himself as a play caller this year,

479
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: and that's why they're going to be better.

480
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Speaker 1: And they're pretty damn good last.

481
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Speaker 3: Year play the play the way we want to play.

482
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Speaker 3: They were fourth in the points story in twenty twenty two.

483
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Speaker 3: They were first in twenty twenty one. I mean, points

484
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: are important, not the way they wanted to play though.

485
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: I get it. But he's he's showing kind of like

486
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 3: mid career Jerry Jones coach symptoms here.

487
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Speaker 1: They're kind of perfect together where he is.

488
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 3: Now starting he's not hitting out, but he's at least

489
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: needling Jerry and letting the public know like, Hey, this

490
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: wasn't really on me. This was Jerry forcing his guy

491
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Speaker 3: on me. And I've got enough cachet with Jerry now

492
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: I can throw that out there because I know he

493
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Speaker 3: doesn't take things personally, which is to Jerry Jones's credit.

494
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Speaker 3: I am not that optimistic though, of Mike McCarthy and

495
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer being an upgrade. But we'll see.

496
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen to these quotes coming out of Dallas.

497
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: Here's Zach Martin the Guard. It's more of an attitude.

498
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: Deal said of a McCarthy's effect as a Pittsburgh guy

499
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: calling plays, That's the best way I can describe it.

500
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Speaker 3: McCarthy's gotten a lot of mileage out of being from Pittsburgh.

501
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: I feel like that has been brought up when it

502
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 3: is related to a lot carthy. He needs that beer back.

503
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: Though not feeling the Zaddi vibes from Mike right now, okay,

504
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: I feel like it's better when it's a beard. Also

505
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: in my mind is a twenty fourteen Packers game that

506
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: was on NFL Network the other night, The boy you

507
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: want Sports at the dinner table at dinner. Yeah, there

508
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: was no basketball. I had no local baseball. I couldn't

509
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 3: find a baseball game, so we just put on the

510
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: old Saints Packers from twenty fourteen. I have no idea

511
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: why that game was on. But Mike looked better then,

512
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: is my point?

513
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Speaker 2: The most Greg Dinner situation possible, Little Saints Packers. You're

514
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: saying he looked better, he looked better back then, Well

515
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: it was nine years ago.

516
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: I imagine living with me, who.

517
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Speaker 1: Among us did not look better nine years ago? It

518
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Speaker 1: happens the case.

519
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Speaker 3: You know, Mark looks pretty good now, you're looking very

520
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: zaddy like. I'm not saying Mark look bad nine years ago,

521
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 3: but honestly, Mark is looking pretty hot. You got the

522
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: facial air, you know. But you're right, nine years is

523
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: a long time.

524
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Speaker 1: Now. Are you just fishing for a compliment?

525
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Speaker 3: Greg, I'm not because I know it's not true.

526
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Speaker 1: Check used to have a.

527
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Speaker 2: Good line about this, and I think it's very true,

528
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: which is we're all kind of hard on our own appearance,

529
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: and you look at and then you'll look at like

530
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Speaker 2: a Facebook photo from your twenties or whatever, or you know,

531
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: ten fifteen years ago, and you'll be like, oh I

532
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: look good there. Yeah, But back then you didn't think

533
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: you look good, and he guess what, like ten fifteen years,

534
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna look back at how we look.

535
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Speaker 1: Now, that's pretty good.

536
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: It's wise, wise good.

537
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: Mark does look good. Well, of course, once he got

538
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: Levi too. He's got the new jeans, he's got the

539
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: black boots and Levi.

540
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Speaker 1: He's got a whole thing going on. We love it.

541
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Speaker 2: That's uh, that's everything in the news. Let's take a

542
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: break and get urgent. All right, welcome back, Greg, Here

543
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: we go.

544
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Speaker 1: You're ready.

545
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: It gets so urgent, so urgent. You know it's urgent.

546
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Speaker 2: I want to tell you it's the same for me.

547
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: So o o urgent. Just you wait and see how

548
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: urgent our love can be. It's urgent. You say it's urgent.

549
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Make it fast, make it urgent, do it quick, do

550
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: it urgent, gotta rush, make it urgent, want it quick, urgent,

551
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: urgent emergency, so urgent, emergency.

552
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: It's urgent.

553
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: Don't know what that is, but sometimes it started to

554
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: make me feel uncomfortable at the point you said make

555
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: it quick. It's like, let me let me uh, let

556
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: me spend some time here, let me enjoy myself. I

557
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: don't want to make it quick.

558
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Speaker 2: Sometimes when you it feels like a good move to,

559
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: Like when you're trying to make a like a deep

560
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: point or really connect on a level that makes you

561
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: seem profound, you you go and dig up some lyrics

562
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: from like maybe like Bob Dylan, like Blood on the Tracks.

563
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: In this case, I chose Foreigner, and they're a nineteen

564
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Speaker 2: eighty one hit urgent, so it didn't have the same

565
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Speaker 2: It didn't come off the way I wanted it to

566
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Speaker 2: it in my mind. But if anybody wants to pause

567
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: and listen to that song, is Parker around. We have

568
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Speaker 2: Parker behind the glass. She loves of all that late second.

569
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Speaker 3: Feel more urgency on that front than I don't know

570
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: a lot about Foreigner.

571
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: I feel like Foreigner you'll be shocked to go down.

572
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: If you ever were to just randomly go down a

573
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: random Foreigner wormhole, you would be stunned to know how

574
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Speaker 2: successful I were.

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Speaker 3: I feel like though, between Foreigner and Journey, there could

576
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: only be one, and Journeys won the battle.

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Speaker 1: Journey one.

578
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Speaker 3: My kid, my daughter is finishing in elementary school this week.

579
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Speaker 3: It's a little off topic. Congratulations, thank you, And they

580
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: played you know, a slide show of all the pictures

581
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: over the years, like showing them in kindergarten and now

582
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 3: up through fifth grade, and they played Don't Stop Believing.

583
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Speaker 3: As part of it. All the kids are singing the

584
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: song they know the Worst Journey's won.

585
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: My eldest son Jack last year for their creative writing

586
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 2: portion of school.

587
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: That was the song their.

588
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Twenty four year old school teacher put on to get

589
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: them into the headspace of created writing.

590
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: They also know the lyrics to September by Earth Wind

591
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: and Fire Shocked Me.

592
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: You know what else? So shock you.

593
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: Foreigner has worldwide sales of more than eighty million records,

594
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: including forty million in the US.

595
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Speaker 1: Anyway, urgency.

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00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: In some ways, GREGI all teams have it, but that's

597
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: not necessarily true because there are different levels of urgency.

598
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: And I'm going to do a piece on this on

599
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: NFL dot com, but this will be a good kind

600
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: of testing ground, though. You and I can chop it

601
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: up a little bit and talk about the teams that

602
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: are facing the most.

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00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: Urgency entering twenty twenty three.

604
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: And let's get it started dustly, Greg, because I brought

605
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: it up before. This is the old Steinbrenner principle. Anything

606
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: less than a super Bowl appearance is considered failure. And

607
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: so I'm going to start with the team that I

608
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: think has the most urgency, and it's the Buffalo Bills,

609
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 2: because I think they are truly Super Bowl or bust.

610
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: And the dark side of the coin is is pretty

611
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: damn dark. And I don't think it means like coaches

612
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: and gms are getting fired necessarily, but kind of blown up.

613
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: The roster in some ways is certainly in play. I

614
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: think if they fail this year, and it just opens

615
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: up a level of doubt around the organization if they

616
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: don't get over the hump.

617
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna if.

618
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: I had to set like zero point zero out of

619
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Speaker 2: ten point zero, I'm putting the Bills higher than anybody

620
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Speaker 2: in this exercise. I'll put them at a nine point

621
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Speaker 2: seven on the urgency scale. Buffalo Bills. Are you with

622
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: me that they have the most urgency of a league?

623
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Speaker 3: Oh?

624
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: Interesting? What do you got?

625
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: But it's close? Well my first one, and I admit

626
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 3: maybe this is Yeah, see if what kind of reaction

627
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: I get? I think it's your New York Jets m hm, okay,

628
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: just because they're the other teams that are most logical

629
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: for most a I had the Bills sort of second

630
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Speaker 3: or third. I think comparing them to the Bengals is

631
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: inter because I actually put the Bengals slightly ahead of

632
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: the Bills, although they're very similar to me. But the

633
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: Bengals right now, I feel like, have this offense together

634
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: right now, and I don't know how long it can

635
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: stay together, very specifically talking about T Higgins, maybe Joe Mixon,

636
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: I'm not really that worried about, but even their defensive

637
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: core that it just feels like now is the time

638
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: for the Bengals. So I put them slightly ahead of

639
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: the Bills. But they have quarterbacks in the middle of

640
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: their prime that are I maybe going to the Hall

641
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: of Fame somedays. So I just feel like, if they're

642
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: smart about it, it's not quite as urgent as a

643
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: team like the Jets, who have a one to two

644
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: year window. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers will be playing

645
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: really well for three years. It's just we haven't seen

646
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: someone that old play at that level other than Tom

647
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: Brady for three years, or even play at all. And

648
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: so to me, they have a super Bowl ready roster.

649
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 3: The longer this offseas got on, the more I'm convinced

650
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: that Jets should be really good actually that they won't

651
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: be overhyped, but it just feels like it's like they

652
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: are truly now or ever because of Aaron Rodgers.

653
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have them at nine point six, so

654
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: they were second on my linad.

655
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: I gave him a perfect ten. I just wanted to

656
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: give someone a ten.

657
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: That's fair.

658
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Speaker 2: And I think for the Jets, they were kind of

659
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: in a different category and that's something that I'll kind

660
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 2: of when I do my write up, I'll focus on.

661
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: So where the Bills to me are super Bowl or

662
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: bust A team like the Jets. It's not super Bowl

663
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: or bust, but it's playoffs or breadline for a lot

664
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: of people. And it's Robert Sala, potentially Joe Douglas, Aaron Rodgers.

665
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: If the season went sideways, you just don't know what

666
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: happens after this year, even though I think it's a

667
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: two year proposition is what I would guess it is.

668
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: But a lot of things.

669
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: Get really murky if they do not feel to double

670
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: digit win team.

671
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that.

672
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: The Bills I've just to cycled to why I have

673
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: them kind of as like the team just ahead of

674
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: everyone else.

675
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: This is since Josh Allen really came into his own.

676
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: They lost in the wild card round, they lost in

677
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: the conference playoffs, they lost in the division playoffs that

678
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: heartbreaker obviously against Mahomes, and then lost again in the

679
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: division playoffs where they really were beat up and beaten

680
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: pretty badly by the Bengals and kind of an eye

681
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: opening playoff loss. So you have that taste in their mouth,

682
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: and I guess maybe I just give them a little

683
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: bit of the edge because the stakes are higher, because

684
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: it's just like this kind of tortured franchise that now

685
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 2: has this great quarterback and this really good core And

686
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: I did, you know, check in with your projected starters,

687
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: greg like and coming up with my list, and it's like,

688
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: is there enough around them? Did they do enough this year?

689
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: They didn't make the big splash? You know, maybe DeAndre

690
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: Hopkins ends up there and then you feel a lot better.

691
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: But will they look back with a lot of regret

692
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: if this upcoming season ends like last season and they're like,

693
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: wait a second, we had the warning when the Bengals

694
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: beat us up in are in Buffalo, right, if I'm

695
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: not mistaken, like, and we didn't really.

696
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: Attack, So anyway, I hear that. You're right, they're going

697
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: for different things. I put them all on one scale.

698
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: But the Jets, to me, have a higher kind of

699
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: high wire act where it's like they could theoretically win

700
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: seven or eight games. So you're right, like their bar

701
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: if they win a playoff game, they win eleven games,

702
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: but they their urgency to me to do at least

703
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: that is like the highest of any league, because if

704
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: they if they if it got ugly there, it's a

705
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: tough division. If they won seven or eight games, it's

706
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 3: just going to be a total disaster. Of course, if

707
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: the Bills won seven or eight games, that would be

708
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: a total disaster too, but they'd still have Josh Allen

709
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: and I just can't imagine them actually doing that. Bills

710
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: fans try to enjoy this, though the whole George Steinbrenner thing.

711
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Is getting antsy.

712
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Though Bills fans are antsy, I know, but this is

713
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: been promised for a couple of years now that it's

714
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: gonna last forever.

715
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: If you win twelve games and you lose in the playoffs,

716
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: at least enjoy the twelve games. Enjoy the enjoy the

717
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: way there.

718
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: It's not a coincidence either that we led with two

719
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: a AFC East teams. I think it's the best division

720
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: in football right now because of the rosters, the talent

721
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: on the rosters. But it meet and it meets this

722
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: urgency overload because I also have the Dolphins at eight

723
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: and a half in this exercise, okay, because they're they're

724
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: fully loaded and ready to go, but now they just

725
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: got to go. And the Patriots, Greg, this is why

726
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: it's they are not a super Bowl or bus team.

727
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: But I put them at eight because and I put

728
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: them in their own category, Greg, They're the only team

729
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: that had their own tier.

730
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: I had them in the Foxboro Triangle and that's.

731
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: We weren't going to be special the Patriots and we

732
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 3: got our own team.

733
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, maybe things are changing that Belichick Craft Mac

734
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: Jones Foxborough Triangle. I think a lot can change if

735
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: they have a bad year and they need to show growth.

736
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: With Bill O'Brien at OC and all the positive reports

737
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: coming out of there, that has to translate.

738
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: Where did you have the Pats.

739
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 3: In this I had them ranked eighth and just below

740
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. Kind of a tie a tie there among

741
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: a bunch of teams. But yeah, now that I look

742
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: at it. I had four of my eight most urgent

743
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: teams were in that division. I think the Dolphins are

744
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: an interesting one too, because I know Tyreek Hill is

745
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: so important. I just don't think Tyreek Hill is going

746
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: to last forever and just sort of be in a

747
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: perfect spot. So I do think that's an urgent situation.

748
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: And the Patriots, yeah, when when the coach has to

749
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 3: win and it's in a tough spot, I think they

750
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: have a lot of urgency. So it's a you know

751
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: that someone's gonna leave this division incredibly disappointed. I suppose,

752
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: you know, there's a scenario. I guess the Patriots win

753
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: nine games and are still in fourth place, and I

754
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: guess that's where everyone's roughly happy. But that's hard to.

755
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: Imagine, and I don't think that leads to some huge

756
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: blow up. But yeah, I think that's kind of generally seen.

757
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: Their ceiling could be about ten wins or so.

758
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: Your schedule is brutal, especially out of the gates. It's

759
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: urgent there, people are people are fighting in OTAs. You

760
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: don't really hear that too often.

761
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know Belichick loves that.

762
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he likes it. Got a real TV.

763
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: So my Steinbrunner principal had the Bills the Bengals for

764
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: similar reasons.

765
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: The Bills and the like football, like football season, all

766
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: the things that go with it. Also with the Bengals,

767
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: as we've talked about on the show, have had that

768
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: core in place for several years on offense and that's

769
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: not going to last forever. And they've been knocking on

770
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: the door for a couple of years now, including a

771
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: near Super Bowl win. I think it's this idea to

772
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: get over the hump as much as our QB says

773
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: their windows his whole career, and the Eagles already have

774
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: the Eagles in this exercise because I think their urgency

775
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: is sky high.

776
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: For me, in fact, I had them near the top

777
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: of my list.

778
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: I got them a cool nine out of ten, and

779
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: I understand they're set up well for beyond this upcoming year.

780
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: But also, like the other factor is like this is

781
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: a water down conference.

782
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: Another team that was knocking at the door last year

783
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: with a MVP level young quarterback, and you had that

784
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: defense that might even be better this year, and everything

785
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: seems so perfectly lined up that this feels like you know,

786
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: in the NFL, things changed quickly, so the iron. Here

787
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: is hot, strike it, get that w get over the hump.

788
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: I think they were at a nine out of ten.

789
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: Fit, yeah, I had I had them at eight and

790
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: a half, and they were my fifth ranked team in

791
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: terms of urgency, so right towards the top, and you're

792
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: absolutely right. You know how they remind me of is

793
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: the twenty eighteen Eagles and the twenty seventeen Falcons. Those

794
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: were two teams that coming into the season everyone was like,

795
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 3: that's the best roster in the league, and both of

796
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: those teams ended up making it back to the playoffs.

797
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: I think they even each they each win one game,

798
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: but it still was hard to recapture that magic. And

799
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: sometimes it looks so perfect on paper. They were ahead

800
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: of schedule a year ago. Now is the year I

801
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: think was their push year where they really thought they

802
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: were going to be great. They did a good job

803
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 3: keeping as many people there as they could, including Graham

804
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: and Flesher, Cox and James Bradbury and Slay like it's

805
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: not going to stay together. I'm with you, especially with

806
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: that conference. They're the most urgent of any NFC team.

807
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: I had the Cowboys right with him because we talked

808
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: about a little bit Zotti before and maybe there's a

809
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: little bit of a I don't want to call say

810
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: bad blood between Jarrah and McCarthy, but McCarthy's putting it

811
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: out there that this is his team more than ever

812
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: and if.

813
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: They take a step back or Dak takes a step back.

814
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: I think you and I definitely differed on Dak a

815
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: little bit because I read in your projected starters that

816
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: you kind of labeled him. I can't remember what you said,

817
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: like a top QB or something where I feel like

818
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: there's enough evidence that maybe he should be a little

819
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: bit lower in that conversation, but.

820
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: Like in the seven to ten range, but that's a

821
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: solidly ahead of like the Kirk Cousins in the Tannehills

822
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: a holder.

823
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: That's where I disagree a little bit.

824
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: I think I think last year was a weird year

825
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: in terms of perceptions.

826
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: But not that he's going to lose his job, but

827
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: there could be Mike McCarthy's facing a lot of pressure

828
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: and they're a team that you know, cannot get over

829
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: the hump, cannot get into the NFC title game, and

830
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: you kind of I get the feeling that with Jerry

831
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: Jones now in his eighties that if this thing doesn't

832
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: get them, if they don't get to the final four

833
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: this year, there's going to be changes there.

834
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should move them up a little. I had

835
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: them too low. They just seem so happy and they're fine.

836
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 3: But you're right with the coach possibly losing his job

837
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: was important to me on this urgency scale. Well, that's

838
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: why I have one team that we haven't brought I

839
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 3: have two teams, but one I had the only other

840
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: one I had over nine.

841
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have not brought up, and that is the

842
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Yep, I had him in the nine as well.

843
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, they're in my top five, just because I

844
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: just think even if the outside expectations aren't as high,

845
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: the ownership expectations are going to be sky high. They

846
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: need to show something for this Deshaun Watson trade. I

847
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: don't think the Hopkins is gonna happen. It sounded like

848
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson was pushing that was hot for a minute there.

849
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna happen. But they did bring

850
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 3: in Zidarius, but they don't have a lot of huge holes.

851
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: I think it's a good roster. So I just think

852
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: their playoffs are bust at the at the least in

853
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: the urgency is sky high. Yeah, there's a.

854
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: Lot of reason for optimism there, but also I think

855
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: a creeping sense of dread because Watson could get everyone fired.

856
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: And if that, if.

857
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: Watson stinks and they fall in their face this year,

858
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: it will make the Cleveland Browns a different kind of

859
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: eternal laughing stock because that will go down in history

860
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: as that that will absolutely be in the conversation.

861
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: We're not getting aheaded into that or trying to take it.

862
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: It's still got four years left on the deal.

863
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, if this was truly, if this cratered,

864
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: it would be in the herschel Walker conversation. Like so

865
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: until we get until we're it's proven and you're pushing

866
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: the DeShawn might not be good card a little hard

867
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: than I am. I'm just saying it's kind of out

868
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: there until it's not at all. So there's a lot

869
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: of urgency for this season to produce results.

870
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: And by herschel washer Walker, you mean the trade, not

871
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: him embarrassing himself as a public figure afterwards, because.

872
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: I know I a lot to block out his his

873
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: what was it run for congrein Senate.

874
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that did not.

875
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: Nobody was covered in glory connected to that on his

876
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 2: side of things. But as a good running back, Yes,

877
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: the Cowboys set up their dynasty with a trade with

878
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vice.

879
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: I've settled it on like, Watson's probably more likely than

880
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: not to be an above average quarterback, right, but being

881
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 3: like the thirteenth best quarterback in the league, that trade

882
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: is a fiasco. If even if that happens, I know

883
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: he's not going to be the thirtieth best quarterback in

884
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 3: the league. Again, that that would be crazy.

885
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be if they're not contending for a

886
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: playoff s butt in January. It's everyone's very nervous around there.

887
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: Let's see. Let me see a team that we haven't discussed.

888
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: Where did you have the Chargers? I had them at

889
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 2: eight and a half.

890
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had them at eight. They were like tenth

891
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: on my list because they've gotten to the playoffs, they've

892
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: had a winning record under Brandon Staley, but the defense

893
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: has shown no ability to get better. You have Justin

894
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: Herbert still on his rookie contract. I feel like they're

895
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: in perennial. They're like always the same. They've probably been

896
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: at this level for years, like ownership is not when

897
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: is that not good enough? Like I feel like ownership

898
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: is fine with them just doing this year after year.

899
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 3: So it's not quite as urgent. But I'm feeling the urgency.

900
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: Well, Brandon ste Staley's feeling urgency, right, I mean they

901
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 2: they had a historic meltdown in the playoff game. That's

902
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: you know, that's gonna wipe away all any goodwill. And

903
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: they have a roster that on paper is ready to

904
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: compete and at a certain point, and less ownership is

905
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: disconnected and doesn't care that much about seeing tangible progress.

906
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: You would think they need to.

907
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: Get back to the playoffs and yeah and not you know,

908
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: lay like an embarrassing egg in January for the coach

909
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: to be back.

910
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 3: Right, I would think so. And I worry for Brandon

911
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: Stey because on paper of the defense looks worse to me,

912
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: and he hasn't been able to coach up the defense

913
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: at all. I have one team though, ahead of the

914
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: charges that we haven't hit in my top six.

915
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: Okay, we haven't even mentioned him. The Washington Commanders, Oh,

916
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: they're low for me.

917
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: I mean they anytime a new owner is coming in,

918
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: I feel like it's urgent time. I know our expectations

919
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: aren't crazy high, but I feel like he's got to

920
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: make the playoffs or everything gets blown up there.

921
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been the name. It might not stay around.

922
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to make everything just the

923
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: QB conversation. But Sam Howell versus Jacoby Brissett doesn't scream

924
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: team urgent to have a big season or else like.

925
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: It seems like a team that's very purposely, you know,

926
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: sitting in the marina with the boat neutral, waiting for

927
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: things to settle before they really dive in next year. Sure,

928
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's good news for Ron

929
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: River or the worst news possible.

930
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: I think it's the worst news possible.

931
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: I think if you're docked in the marina, bro, you're

932
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: a six or lower for me. I mean, are they

933
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: on the high seas?

934
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: I'm putting them out on the high seas? You put

935
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: them on the high seats. I mean, they've got a

936
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: lot of veterans on the team, they don't have a

937
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: lot of huge weaknesses. They're paying a lot of money.

938
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 3: I know they don't have any quarterbacks, but I guess

939
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: if it was coach urgency rankings. I feel like he

940
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: would be in the top five because he when a

941
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: new owner comes in, he's he's lived this life before.

942
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Same thing happened in Carolina. He's got to win now

943
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: or else they blow it up.

944
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have a big name quarterback next

945
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: We'll be talking about this time next year.

946
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

947
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: But that's why I kind of have them a little lower.

948
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: I have, you know, the team the division that has

949
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: the least urgency.

950
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: Which is kind of funny. The idea of an entire division.

951
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: Be like, eh, the NFC sound yes, the Bucks? I

952
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: have at a three excited you know what are the

953
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: Baker versus Kyle Trask. They have a weird roster with

954
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: a bunch of veterans, but no Tom Brady anymore.

955
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: They kept the head coach there.

956
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: I guess there's some coach urgency there to show they

957
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: can grow, especially on defense, but they're not necessarily set

958
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: up for success there or.

959
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: Either, Greg, Like, how do you even make sense to

960
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: them now?

961
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: I put them out a five just because they have

962
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: an older GM and coach and some veterans on that team,

963
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: But that whole division to me didn't seem that lack

964
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: of urgent. I had the Saints and the Falcons pretty high.

965
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: They're pretty much up next after Chargers.

966
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of did too. Actually, I gotta sorry.

967
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: I had the Falcons. That's seven and a half, so

968
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: I should take walk back a little bit.

969
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're They're in year three of this process,

970
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: and I feel like they have to show something. I

971
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: feel like Dennis Allen has to show something. They're really

972
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: talking up a big game in New Orleans like that.

973
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: They're the favorites of that division. I feel like the

974
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: AFC South is the divisi where there's no urgency. I

975
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 3: don't have anyone above a five. I got the Jaguars

976
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: at four. Even the Jaguars, it doesn't feel that urgent.

977
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 3: They could fuss around.

978
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: I got the Jags of the six and a half,

979
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: the Titans at six and a half, Cults at five,

980
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: Texans at six.

981
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: Whoa, we're on our own little scale. So I get

982
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: the Jaguars at four, the Texans, Titans three. Right now

983
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: at the bottom of my whole list because I feel

984
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: like all these teams could kind of mess around this year.

985
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: If the Jaguars took a big step back, it would

986
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: be frustrating, But They're a relatively young team with a

987
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: young quarterback, and Peterson has some rope. And then the

988
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: other teams all have rookie quarterbacks and new situations, either

989
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: new head coaches or in the Titans case, at least

990
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: a new general manager. So it's like a lot of

991
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: teams that are just starting from scratch.

992
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: There's a little sub.

993
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: NFC North category I want to introduce, like be a grower,

994
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: be a shower. The Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears.

995
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't think either team, although the Lions. I think

996
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: it's expected that the Lions now make the playoffs, which

997
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: just feels like a weird thing to say, but they

998
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: are expected to take that jump. But I don't know

999
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: if people get fired if they don't make it, and

1000
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 2: I don't expect them to creter either. And the Bears,

1001
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: I think I agreed with their whole esthetic this offseason,

1002
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: which is get behind justin fields and then help him out.

1003
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: And I think you saw that in both free agency

1004
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: and in the draft, and it helps I guess for

1005
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: them that they they're starting from such a low point

1006
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: that there's going to be progress. You'd think there is

1007
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: a Matt Ebraflus question that has that conversation that has

1008
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: to be had here, and I think that's where why

1009
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 2: I have them maybe a little higher.

1010
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: I have the Bears at seven for that reason. A

1011
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: lot of ebra flu seven and a half.

1012
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: I have them, Actually I got them at six and

1013
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: a half. I got the Packers at seven, and I

1014
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: have the Lions the highest in that division at seven

1015
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: and a half because the reason I think they're feeling

1016
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: urgent is like now's the time, Like they've never gone

1017
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: into a season with this much hype. They are set

1018
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: up well for a while, but a division title would

1019
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: mean so much to that city and to that organization,

1020
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: and it's all set up for them. They are literally

1021
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 3: the favorites. They have great line play. It's kind of

1022
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: exactly what they've been building tour is this moment, and

1023
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: so I feel like that is urgent. If they had

1024
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: like an eight and nine season and came in second

1025
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 3: in that division, weirdly, it'd be a pretty big letdown

1026
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: the Lions.

1027
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: The Lions, Yeah, I think I agree with you. I

1028
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 2: agree with you. I'm with you on that. I don't

1029
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: know the Packers surprising me. You have them a little

1030
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: higher than I do. I have them at a five,

1031
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: the same as the Vikings, where it's you know, there's

1032
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: like success is kind of hard to even calibrate what

1033
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: the Packers you want to. Obviously see the quarterback show

1034
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: tangible signs of growth, But I don't think the power

1035
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 2: structure is in doubt there. It's true, and I think

1036
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: love is going to get at least one year here.

1037
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: There's the whole like prove Aaron Rodgers wrong thing that

1038
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: makes it feel a little more gurent. The fan base

1039
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: there makes it feel a little more adjurent. I had

1040
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: the Vikings thirty first on my list out of thirty

1041
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: two teams two and a half. I'm giving him. You

1042
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: cut Dalvin Cook, you trade Zdaria Smith. You're trying to

1043
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: trade Daniel Hunter. You're coming off total found money with

1044
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: a thirteen win season, and then your coach and your

1045
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: GM is in total job security mode, which is great.

1046
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: I think they should be. They did a great job

1047
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 3: there a year too. I had them all the way

1048
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: at the bottom, only above the thirty second team, which

1049
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: I assume we have the same team.

1050
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop the Vikings to a three. Wow, it's

1051
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: such a great case. Yeah, the Cardinals, I had to

1052
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 2: stick at a zero point zero just there, and that's

1053
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: not even a kind of is a takedown, but it's

1054
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: also like just it is what it is, like there's

1055
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 2: no urgency to win this year and they are playing

1056
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: for next year. They're the textbook definition of a team

1057
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 2: that isn't playing or you know, playing with any sense

1058
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 2: of urgency for the upcoming season.

1059
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's a hip piece.

1060
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: No, Colt McCoy is scheduled to be their starter. Their

1061
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: fan base will be happy if they win four or

1062
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: five games or cause violence.

1063
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: They just got like bored of DeAndre Hopkins and they're

1064
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: just like a I get them.

1065
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: Out of here a couple urgency. I wonder if I'm

1066
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: sure the fan base is listening would disagree. But the

1067
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: only other teams that we haven't mentioned that I have

1068
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: below five. I said the whole my whole AFC South,

1069
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: other than actually my entire AFC South is but I

1070
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 3: have the Giants pretty low because I think they're kind

1071
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: of similar to the Vikings that they're just like found

1072
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 3: money and if they took a step back, everyone kind

1073
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: of gets it as long as they'd show some like

1074
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: growth and talent. I have the Panthers low number one

1075
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: overall quarterback. Just how he looks is the most important thing.

1076
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: But they don't need to win this year, and then

1077
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: the Rams, I guess, have to be low even though

1078
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: they have Cooper, Cup and Donald. How can they feel

1079
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 3: like what they're doing is urgent? Next year is urgent

1080
00:50:59,360 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: for them?

1081
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have them at a seven, but I couldn't

1082
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: really figure out what they're doing.

1083
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: But I'm not alone.

1084
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: Everyone's trying to kind of figure out the Rams plan

1085
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: of attack this year.

1086
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: It's like a gap year, you know, you like take

1087
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: a year off of college and you just like go

1088
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: travel the world and then you come back and try

1089
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: to hit it hard.

1090
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't do that, but that's something. Yeah,

1091
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: it seems like it would have been cool the gap

1092
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: Rams here. We should do gap years in this country.

1093
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 3: Just like as as a profession, like as once you.

1094
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: What is that the post university European thing to do?

1095
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: Like you graduate and then you just take a year

1096
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 2: off and you see help us out overseas listeners, because

1097
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. And then you get

1098
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 2: to be that you get to backpack and go stay

1099
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: at hostels and things of that nature and then you

1100
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: then you start your career.

1101
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 3: Hey, with this economy, you might not have a choice.

1102
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: So this guy gets it all right, let's good conversation.

1103
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to hit there and check out

1104
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 2: NFL dot com next week. I think I'll have something

1105
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: up on this looking forward. Did we miss anything? I

1106
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: feel like we didn't. I feel like we hit everything

1107
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: we needed.

1108
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: To there at almost every team. I've got the Broncos

1109
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: and the Steelers square in the middle of my my

1110
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: urgency rankings, just like middle tier Ravens where you get

1111
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: the Ravens, they're like upper middle class, you know, upper

1112
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: middle Samesy.

1113
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: Samesy's let's bring in Frags Frags behind the glass. Wow,

1114
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: she's from the newsroom.

1115
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: She's gonna come sit in because, uh well, let's get

1116
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: our seated here, ladies and gentlemen. Alexandra fre Golf, Wow,

1117
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: the legend herself. Yes, get situated.

1118
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Frags.

1119
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: Frags has joined the show before, but only behind the glass.

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00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: So this is a first, but very often the shantouse

1121
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: on our on our drops.

1122
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: Well said, you are the shantoose of around the NFL.

1123
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Alex how are you?

1124
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 7: I'm great? I was not told that this was on camera. Thanks, guys.

1125
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: So that's cute at a certain Dan, I mean, you

1126
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: could say it's on Dan Frags, but at this certain

1127
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: point we do the show in a studio with lighting

1128
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: and cameras on us.

1129
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, but every other time I've just stood behind the glass,

1130
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 7: I know.

1131
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: And I thought this would be a good way to

1132
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: to make things a little bit more direct.

1133
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: But can I apologize? Do you want to go behind

1134
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: the glass?

1135
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: I accept your apo in the past that has been

1136
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 3: behind the glass, but don't worry, Like, in no way

1137
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: are our listeners weirdos and the ones that only listen

1138
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: to audio usually like, there's no way they're going to

1139
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: go to the YouTube just to see what's going on

1140
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: with Frags.

1141
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: Okay, way to make un comfortable, Greg, all right, Frags,

1142
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: Now this is a good color.

1143
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: That was more. That was more a shot at our list.

1144
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, listeners be normal people, you know, Okay, Frags you

1145
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: are And we've worked together forever, right, I mean since very.

1146
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: Long time, twenty ten.

1147
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 7: That's showing my age, but yes, samesis.

1148
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 3: But it is what it is well for me.

1149
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the one thing you got to know about

1150
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 2: Frags is she is a traveler, a world traveler, in fact, yes,

1151
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 2: and I thought, with summer right around the corner, our

1152
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: listeners who are all normal and not at all creepy

1153
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 2: are going to really benefit from Frags giving some tips

1154
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 2: for summer travel.

1155
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: Before we say goodbye today head into the weekends. Okay,

1156
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: so I'm going to see you up. Okay you have

1157
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: a yes.

1158
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: No, I'm just gonna say relax, everybody, smile and watch

1159
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: your worries wash away.

1160
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: On the white sand beaches of Fragola Town.

1161
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 7: You said, bellissimo, belissima, Belizi.

1162
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: We'll work on your travel tips with Freckle.

1163
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, do you want to go down a list?

1164
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 1: How many guys?

1165
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 7: I mean, you didn't really give me a lot of

1166
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 7: info just by travel tip.

1167
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about number one?

1168
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 7: Here's some stuff travel like credit card dot doesn't exist,

1169
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 7: because it doesn't.

1170
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Okay, go on like flesh.

1171
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 7: It out, go to Venice, Italy because it's not going

1172
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 7: to be there forever.

1173
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: Just go.

1174
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 7: Have credit card debt. It won't matter.

1175
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: So just open up that that extra card, max it

1176
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 2: out if you have.

1177
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 7: To make sure it has points and lounge access.

1178
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: Feels irresponsible, but you're a travel advisor, not a financial advisor,

1179
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 3: that's an importants.

1180
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 7: No one would ever bring me on their podcast to discuss,

1181
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 7: and if they.

1182
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: Would, I like that. Though, You're right, these places there there,

1183
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 3: There's only so much in your life that you can

1184
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: squeeze them all in. You better get working at it

1185
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: exactly all right.

1186
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: So just to put a bow on that.

1187
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: One, spend money, have fun now, worry about the financial

1188
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: consequences later.

1189
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: Tip number two from life Advice. Yeah, I like that.

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00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 7: I let me see, okay, let me give you something Chao, Oh,

1191
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 7: we'll give you something Italian Okay, just actually okay. Side note,

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00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 7: I'm going to Italy in about two and a half weeks.

1193
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 7: And who I'm going to hang out with there David.

1194
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: Ely whoaly himself in Italy and his friends nearly another

1195
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: newsroom staple for years with.

1196
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: The listeners here, A huge fan, wow, big Panthers fan.

1197
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 7: So I was just telling him that in Italy you

1198
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 7: are not to order a cappuccino.

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00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: Afternoon after the new hour.

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00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: Okay, that's tip number two.

1201
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 7: That is a breakfast drink. You will be embarrassed at

1202
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 7: the Italian bar if you ask for anything older than

1203
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 7: an espresso.

1204
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: This is so important because define embarrassed well, you just

1205
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: get a look like oh the American.

1206
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 7: You might get a like an absolutely not. I mean

1207
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 7: it depends how easily.

1208
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Oh they might say no they.

1209
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: Could see Greg, I want to start spreading my wings.

1210
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 7: And seeing other things people were depends what.

1211
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: You Italians are.

1212
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 3: How many times have you been to Italy?

1213
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 7: Have probably been to Italy like six or seven?

1214
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 3: You really do travel at Wait, so you were in

1215
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 3: Japan this offseason? Yes, which Korea?

1216
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 7: Finally enough, I was just saying you never sent me

1217
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 7: travel tips for oom and this guy was supposed to

1218
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 7: hook me up with Tokyo travel.

1219
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: Tips and oh he promised it on top and he

1220
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 3: did not. Well, I don't know if I promised it,

1221
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: but that would I guess be. Another tip is ask

1222
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 3: someone who travels there a lot for tips ahead of time.

1223
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: Just not Gregy.

1224
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: It's just not.

1225
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 7: Do not ask Greg for travel tip all right.

1226
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: Travel tip number oh to put a bow on that one.

1227
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: Do not order a cappuccino after twelve o'clock noon. You

1228
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: may get looks, You might even get denied a real

1229
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: social no.

1230
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 7: No number three number three okay, a really practical one, yeah,

1231
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 7: fantastic one. City Mapper City Mapper it's a fantastic app.

1232
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 7: You basically it has different cities in it. It works

1233
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 7: all over the world. It depends on what city you're in.

1234
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 7: But like Japan, they had it for Kyoto and Tokyo,

1235
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 7: they had it for Soul, they have it all over

1236
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 7: London they have.

1237
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 3: It here, and you're in London. Where else?

1238
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 7: That's all I've been.

1239
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: Well that's a lot. That's it.

1240
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you just put in where you're going,

1241
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 7: where you are, where you're trying to get to, and

1242
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 7: it gives you like how much a taxi would cost,

1243
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 7: how much an uber would cost, gives you all the

1244
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 7: transportation options, how it'll take, how long it could take

1245
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 7: to walk?

1246
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: Better than ways?

1247
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 7: Oh my god, infinitely better because it gives you all

1248
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 7: the public transportation. It'll give you your tube stop city.

1249
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 7: So that's actually practical.

1250
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: Tip, that's extremely practical.

1251
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 3: Use that in Tokyo because I didn't tell you how.

1252
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 7: Because you didn't tell me anything.

1253
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: So that's a manage. Though, how was I had been

1254
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: to Tokyo before I was.

1255
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 7: It was fantastic. I got a tattoo, Well, I got

1256
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 7: a tattoo in Kyoto.

1257
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: But Strawberry very nice, well done and I'm kind of

1258
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: a little bonus. How do you handle Tokyo, for instance,

1259
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: the language divide.

1260
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 7: Ah, so many people speak English there, okay, And I

1261
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 7: will say they see me walking down the street, no

1262
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 7: one expects me to speak Japanese.

1263
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: So it's quite you know, Japanese.

1264
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 7: No, they don't expect me to so I'm fine, No

1265
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 7: one's no one's going to speak like rapid fire Japanese

1266
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 7: to me, whereas in Europe, I feel like frequently people

1267
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 7: will speak I.

1268
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: Hope everyone's listening. These are really good tips, okay, and

1269
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: that one is it's okay. You could be a little

1270
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: nervous if you don't know the language, but be aware.

1271
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: A lot of people in other parts of the world

1272
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: do speak multiple languages, so a little.

1273
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 3: Wit say that our country. It depends like you don't

1274
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: want to get too far, you don't want to get

1275
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: outside of Tokyo, and yes, start going to some.

1276
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: Some coyoto ho Kyato for instance, I don't want to

1277
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: go there.

1278
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, you know, you don't want to

1279
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: be going to some hot spring hotels. I've found myself

1280
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: in certain situations where my lack of English definitely definitely

1281
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: hurts me.

1282
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 7: I would also.

1283
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: Say, are you doing on your Japanese, Greg, It's non existent.

1284
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, also, if you speak a little

1285
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 7: bit of a language, be prepared that people are going

1286
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 7: to speak to you like your fluent rapid fire the

1287
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 7: moment kind of little backfire situation could backfire on you

1288
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 7: a little bit.

1289
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: All right, Number four.

1290
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 7: Okay, this is where I stopped preparing. That's how we

1291
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 7: handle those book book tickets to like famous things, way

1292
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 7: ahead of time, so that you don't have to wait.

1293
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 7: Like if you wait in line to buy tickets for

1294
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 7: The Love, it'll take you an extra two hours and

1295
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 7: it's miserable and you don't want to do that, especially

1296
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 7: if it's summer, So don't do that. Also, crazy scorching

1297
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 7: hot take, I think The Love is overrated.

1298
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, it's beautiful.

1299
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 7: I hate impression to start another hot take. But a

1300
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,959
Speaker 7: beautiful museum and less crowded.

1301
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with anoid louve it all another

1302
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 3: hot take. Got it In terms of travel, to tell

1303
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: you know, with with maybe rare exceptions, don't wait for anything.

1304
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: Life's too short for just about anything. It's a huge city,

1305
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to see everything that

1306
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: they have, but there will be more to see. Don't

1307
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: bother if you invite there's a two hour wait.

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01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: In a similar but different context, if you invite me

1309
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: anywhere and it's like, oh, you got to wait on

1310
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: the line to get is, I'm not going, and you

1311
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: know kind of if you for inviting me to a

1312
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: place where I have to wait on the line. Finally,

1313
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: number five, Remember number four, do not go to the

1314
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: louver under any circumstances. Number five the final tip travel

1315
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: tip from Frags.

1316
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 7: Don't ask for ice in foreign countries, not not because

1317
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 7: ice is bad anything like that, but because it is

1318
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 7: a very uniquely American ask like ice for your water.

1319
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 7: Why do you want ice for your water? This is

1320
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 7: a ridiculous American request.

1321
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: I have because you know, Daddy likes to have a Tito's.

1322
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 7: Okay, that's different.

1323
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: That's on. But here's the thing.

1324
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: When I go to London for our trips and I

1325
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: order one at the bar, there's like two like half

1326
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: melted ice cubes floating on top of my teetos. And

1327
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: I make my teitos and the tips I always give

1328
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: here's a little tip. There's a little behind the bar

1329
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: tip from old zeuser. This is how you make the drink.

1330
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: You fill it up with ice, then you do a

1331
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: five second poor that will take your ice down about halfway,

1332
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: but keep it icy, and then put your topper on

1333
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: and then you have a delicious, fizzy, icy, delicious cocktail.

1334
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 7: Well all the but you're not gonna get that of London.

1335
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 7: We'll be listening to.

1336
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: This, but I could use a drink. I gotta say

1337
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: bonus tip.

1338
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 7: Don't drink tequila in London. Drink with the locals. Drink

1339
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 7: just you know, okay, drink soak in Japan, drink sojin Korea.

1340
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: Drink water warm beer.

1341
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 7: Drink warm beer in London, although they will tell you

1342
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 7: not all their beer is warm.

1343
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: It is not many types.

1344
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: That's a good. That's a good. That's the best piece

1345
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 3: of advice. Just eat what's the specialized with.

1346
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: The yeah and get it, ladies and gentlemen. Alexander Frogle

1347
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: can I go yeah.

1348
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: I apologize if we didn't warn you enough and if

1349
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: I made it uncomfortable in any way.

1350
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 7: It's uh, this is the only thing I actually know.

1351
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: About, so well, that's why we had you a honest you.

1352
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 7: Guys want to talk about clothes. I got that covered.

1353
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: That will be your next appearance on the show, Frags.

1354
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We will be back on I

1355
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: don't know, Monday. It sounds about right, you're back on Monday. Yeah,

1356
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 2: you could go, Frags. Great seeing you with another episode.

1357
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: We'll have the gang back together as we turned through

1358
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: the off season. Anything else, scregg before we say goodbye?

1359
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 3: No, I think that's it.

1360
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: I think.

1361
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: I mean my own travel tip. Here's an underrated way

1362
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: to do it. Just don't have many plans at all.

1363
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: Just go just be in that city and sort of

1364
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: try to have it. You know, you don't have to

1365
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: see everything, but people are wired differently. But if you

1366
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 3: just sort of have a day where you're bouncing around

1367
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 3: and it's not all planned out, I feel like it

1368
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 3: works out better that way, less stressful.

1369
01:03:59,280 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: All right.

1370
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: You could add that as well to the notes, don't overplan,

1371
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: don't spend your whole time on like a tour bus.

1372
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: I like it, all right, Good stuff, joy your weekend,

1373
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 1: Heed the call.