1 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Everybody, Ruben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's lucky here. 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: It's the Philly Show. 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: We're live from Manco and Manco on the Ocean City Boardwalk. 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: Oh right, we got we got here. We got action. 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: We got some boardwalk action going on. We're excited to 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: be here. I hope everybody is doing well. You're watching 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: us live beautiful Sunday morning down at the Jersey shore Manco. 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: MANC doesn't like it. 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: It's fantastic, perfect combination, Todd. 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 3: You know when you got oshi, you're here at Maco macOS. 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: I mean it's best pizza in the planet. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 5: The smell of a better the salty air or the 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 5: pizza cooking behind us. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we're right behind it. I think we'll get 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: some in a little bit. But uh yeah, we're we're 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: super excited to be here. Uh Baseball season, Midsummer trade deadline, Jersey, 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: you sure change deadline four days. It's a little bit 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: more than four days away. So there's a lot going 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: on right now up in New York. Guys, Phillies, Yankees, 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: the crushing Phillies are also all of a sudden, they're 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: starting to hit the baseball a little bit yeah. 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: Who needs. 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: But I think they need a reliever more or in 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 5: the home stretch from the trade deadline. What do you 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 5: think you changed your mind on reliever versus bat after 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 5: this little. 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: Run the wrong No, I think the reliever. 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously you got to wait to see what 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 6: happens with Robertson as far as when you know how 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 6: effective he'll be. But you're not gonna be able to 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 6: find that out really until until you know, after. 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: The trade deadline. 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 6: I'm not sure when Robertson's gonna be ready, Probably in 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 6: the next week to ten. 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: Days, about eight or nine more days, ten more days 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 5: with Robertson. 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: Yes about that, Yeah, he's gonna start his Uh you know, 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: so let's let's talk trade deadline. Let's talk Phillies Yankees. 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: It's time for the Parks first, Hitch, what. 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: Do we want to do. 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: We want to talk Phillies Yankees first, and we want 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: to talk trade deadline. 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: Sorry, top of the lineup. I mean, how about the 44 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 5: month that JT. Real Mudo has had in the month 45 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 5: of July. I mean they right now we're seeing what 46 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 5: can happen when you get multiples three and four guys hot, 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 5: and that's what we're seeing over the weekend. I know 48 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 5: the Yankees are struggling, but it's great to see real 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 5: mutos swinging it. And one of our big second half 50 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: storylines coming in was, you know, can Bryce Harper really 51 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: turn it on? And so far he has and they've 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: it's been a real difference maker in the team, and 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: Schwarber has been Schwarber. I think it's time we start 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: talking about Kyle Schwarber as a serious MVP candidate National. 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, no question about that, but I I you know, 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 6: one of the things that we've been waiting for is like, 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 6: and we talked about it at the beginning of the season, 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 6: was you know, it's just tea. This team is supposed 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 6: to have a pretty darn deep lineup, and some of 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 6: the guys in the back end of that lineup weren't 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 6: doing squad. 62 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: I mean they literally weren't doing anything. 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 6: And they have picked it up obviously, particularly a guy 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 6: like JT. That right handed bat that can can can 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 6: help this team a lot. They've got a lot of 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 6: left handed thunder with regard to you know, Harper and 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 6: Schober obviously, but the right handed bats important. I still 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 6: think it's important to try to get somebody to really protect, 69 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 6: you know, those two left handed bats. But it's huge 70 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 6: for them to have gotten to the point where JT 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 6: is starting to be more productive. I think that's gigantic. 72 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 6: I think it lengthens out the lineup. It takes a 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 6: lot of heat off some people, and you know you 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 6: still got Alec Bohme coming back at some point. And 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 6: when Alec bom comes back that that's a big piece 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 6: as well. So it will be very, very interesting to 77 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 6: see how this all plays out in the next four days. 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 6: With with Dave Nebowski, I do still think that they're so. 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Put yourself back in the GM shoes. Offense has been 80 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: struggling the free first few months of this season, super 81 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: super hot and cold. Now they have a six game 82 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: stretch where they start having a lot of extra base hits, 83 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: they start hitting for some power. Do you sit there 84 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: and go, Okay, it's back, it's coming back, or do 85 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: you say, I'm not going to be fooled by a 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: six because you hear GMS all the time say well, 87 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: I want to see with the week to go before 88 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: the trade done, these teams on the bubble. 89 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm going to be a buyer 90 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: or seller. 91 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: It's like one week is going to change your entire 92 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: future of the organization potentially, So how do you handle 93 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: how do you look at what you've seen over the 94 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: last five, six, seven games in terms of you know, 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: going out and getting a yue Ango Soarez or. 96 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: Somebody like that. 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 6: I think you have to be realistic about what this 98 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 6: lineup is and it has failed, you know when when 99 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 6: it goes cold, and I think you've got to try 100 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 6: to give it a little bit more depth. And how 101 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 6: do you do that? You got to do it with 102 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 6: you know, a back coming in. 103 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: Again. 104 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 6: I think the priority has to be if they're going 105 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 6: to make one move, I think they do need to 106 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 6: get somebody in the back end of that bullpen to 107 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 6: close things down, at least somebody that you feel really 108 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 6: comfortable about, you know, getting three outs in the tight 109 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: in a really tight situation when they have a one 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 6: run lead, okay, or when they are tied and they. 111 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: Can throw somebody in the ninth inning and feel really 112 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: good about that. 113 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 6: There's some guys who are pitching a little bit better 114 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 6: who can do that on this team, but not guys 115 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 6: that have shown us they can do it consistently. So 116 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 6: I think that's the priority, but you can't get sort 117 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 6: of I don't know, mesmerized by the fact that these 118 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 6: last few games, they they've swung the bats better because 119 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 6: they're not facing great pitching either, and so you have 120 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 6: to take that into account. 121 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: They still need that bat. 122 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 6: I believe that's going to help them, give them a 123 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 6: little bit more depth on the right side, and hopefully 124 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 6: it's a dangerous bat. Again, I don't know who's available 125 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 6: out there right now because it's it's so volatile. These 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 6: next four days are insane when it comes to who's 127 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 6: gonna be in and who's gonna be out, who's gonna 128 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 6: be available. 129 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 5: And it's an eternity four days, an eternity at the 130 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: trade deadline really is on the fence right up until 131 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 5: twenty four hours before and then the text message you 132 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: start rolling, We're in, make your offers, you know, bring it. 133 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: But I still agree with Rubin. 134 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 5: I wonder who is going to get the last three 135 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 5: outs of ball games in October, the last four outs. 136 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: Maybe that you know, those pressure packed outs in October, 137 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 5: they're different than in July, August, and September. So I 138 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 5: still think you have to be out there looking to 139 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 5: get somebody who can lock down that game. But we 140 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 5: can't kid ourselves. They need a bat. We've said it 141 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: all along. It might be a marginal guy that can 142 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 5: you can ride for a couple of months that maybe 143 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 5: can get hot. Or it might be Suarez. I mean, 144 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 5: he he really interests me. I love the idea of 145 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: bringing him in and maybe, you know, you kind of 146 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: suck it up a little bit and put Schwarber out 147 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 5: there in left field and Suarez becomes your DH when 148 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 5: Bom gets back. But you know, I don't know if 149 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 5: they can pull off two mark he moves like that. 150 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 5: But we're gonna find out. I think they know all 151 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 5: I know, they know all this stuff. They know they 152 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: need an arm, they know they need more offense. They're 153 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 5: not gonna be fooled by one big weekend in New York. 154 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 5: It's like when you look at mc gable right and 155 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 5: you say, wow, he had a bad start in the 156 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 5: Big League. Does that really hurt his value? 157 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 7: No. 158 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 5: The teams out there know that he's a developing player 159 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 5: that's gonna need time. I don't think he kills his value, 160 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 5: like just like I don't think one big weekend in 161 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 5: New York is gonna convince them they don't need a bat, 162 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 5: they need both. The time is now with this nucleus. 163 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 5: The clock is ticking, and I think they're gonna do 164 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 5: everything they can. 165 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: To address both. 166 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see kind of what they do. 167 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Dave Debrowski certainly has made some moves of 168 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: the past few trade deadlines, but he hasn't made that 169 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: Cliff Lee two thousand and nine, Royo's vaulty ten Hunter 170 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: Pence twenty eleven move where that was the guy. So 171 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if that And I'm not saying he's gonna 172 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: he necessarily feels fresh. I don't think Dave is influenced 173 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: by that stuff, but I almost feel like it's. 174 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: Gone three years of kind of doing those. 175 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Marginal moves, and I'm sitting there going, I wonder if 176 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the year where he goes all Right, Miller, Crawford, 177 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: Tai Escobar, Able, They're all out there and we're gonna 178 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: make it go big. 179 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: I'm all about throwing all those ships in myself. 180 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm all about it, especially with the way 181 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 6: things are set up across baseball. Detroit's not playing well. 182 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 6: The Yankees have been terrible. The one team that's playing 183 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 6: great is Toronto. But there's so many teams that aren't 184 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 6: playing well. And this World Series is there for the taking. 185 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 6: It's there for the taking, and it may be the 186 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 6: difference in making that big move. 187 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: I think so. Rubin in the last like JT has 188 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: picked it up. In the month of July. 189 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: Lewis Robert has had a really good run with the 190 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 5: White Sox this month. He's turning out. He's killing left 191 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: handed pitching. You have never been an advocate of acquiring him. 192 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 5: I understand why, two very poor years, but I mean, 193 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 5: could he be someone if you didn't have to it 194 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 5: didn't cost you a ton of prospect capital. Maybe he's 195 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 5: a threat, of enough of a threat that maybe you 196 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 5: take a run at him as your right handed kind 197 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 5: of threat in the middle of the bat, a middle 198 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: of the lineup, and go for a lockdown, closer reliever 199 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 5: with your big trade capital. Are you turning any Are 200 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: you coming around on Lewis Roberts at all? Especially if 201 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: he didn't cost you big You know, I've been all. 202 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: Thumbs down on him for a long time and I 203 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 6: just don't know money wise, and I think he's under 204 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 6: control for another options dollar. 205 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Buyout, like a twenty million dollars. 206 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing. 207 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 5: If you got him, he's gonna turn it on for 208 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 5: two months. He's gonna be very engaged because he wants 209 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 5: that twenty million dollars option. 210 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: Very possible. 211 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 5: I don't pick it up right, but I mean he's 212 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 5: going to be motivated. 213 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 6: So you have to view him as a rental and 214 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 6: someone that you're basically spending money on rather than uh, 215 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 6: you know, talent capital. 216 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: So listen, listen. 217 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 6: As long as they do something strong at the back end, 218 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 6: that'd be great, and add that little piece, why not 219 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 6: go ahead. I mean, if it's if it's gonna make them, 220 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 6: if it's gonna make their lineup marginally better, then I'm 221 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 6: okay with that. 222 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: So I wrote this down because I thought these numbers 223 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: jumped out of me. Luise Robert Junior against left handed 224 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: pitching this season nine sixty six ops, five twenty nine. 225 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: Against right hand you put platuna. 226 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: But but this month Luise Robert Junior batting three point 227 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: fifty one two o ps. 228 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: Sounds like some of them wants to get traded, no doubt. 229 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 6: I mean I don't. I don't necessarily trust the guy. 230 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 6: And I've been going thumbs down on him for for 231 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 6: a long time. 232 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: But I've been going yeah, but on the guy. 233 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 6: But but if you can catch lightning in a bottle 234 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 6: and you're willing to pay whatever it is capital, you know, 235 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 6: money capital wise and talent capital, why not if it's 236 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 6: making your team better for for a month and that's 237 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 6: all you need him for. 238 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: Right And you talked about that, Brian Reynolds guy, how 239 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: you thought maybe if you get out of Pittsburgh you 240 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 5: turn it on a little bit. I'm starting to wonder 241 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 5: if Lewis Robert gets out of kind of death Valley 242 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: in the South side of Chicago, it comes to a 243 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 5: place like Citizens Bank Park, where it's electric, where he's 244 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 5: got guys like Schwarmer and Harper going all out, maybe 245 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 5: he picks up his game a little bit and you 246 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: get those the best two months of his career. 247 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: I just think it's really worth bearing down on a 248 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: little better. 249 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: It'll be fun. 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Yeah, we got film. 260 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: Tell fran Donfie, thanks so much for joining. 261 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: Us, guys. Yeah, good to be with you guys. 262 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: So is this just so OC home? 263 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 6: You guys have homes here in OC or you're just 264 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 6: cruising by and hanging out with us? 265 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: You do it? 266 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Ever, Cindy Webster tells us, Oh, that's that's a great point. 267 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: We're both at Avabon. 268 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: Oh you're both at Avalon. Oh, well that's not. 269 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: Too far down the road. It's good, very good. 270 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 271 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 5: It's awesome to have you guys. I know, legendary basketball 272 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 5: guys in town. But how about your big baseball fans 273 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 5: I see at the ballpark now? 274 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: And then both of you guys. 275 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I would say that college basketball coaches 276 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 7: their next most important love is baseball. It fills that 277 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 7: gap between the seasons, and we love every second of it. 278 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 7: My man has a countless number of opinions that he's 279 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 7: happy to share. 280 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: All of those, but it's it's great fun. 281 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: Opinions are our fuel. 282 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 8: No. 283 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: I just to me, it's. 284 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 9: College basketball and then baseball, and I come by it 285 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 9: like honestly when I say, all of you guys are 286 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 9: much too young. In nineteen sixty four, I walked from 287 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 9: Southwest Philly to the airport and met them when they 288 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 9: came off coming off, like not a lot of people 289 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 9: are you guys are aware of it? They won their 290 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 9: last two games that year. They didn't go end of 291 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 9: the season losing ten straight. They won two straight in Cincinnati, 292 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 9: came up a game short against the Cardinals. I was 293 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 9: down there as a ten year old as they came 294 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 9: off the plane, thinking, well, they'll just be back next year. 295 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,119 Speaker 9: Who knew it would be fifty years until. 296 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: We were like on Broad Street again. 297 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: A long time oky. 298 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 6: So one question I had about you guys when you 299 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 6: go through your recruiting process, because I know back in 300 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 6: the day as a baseball person, and I know that 301 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,359 Speaker 6: baseball scouts used to go and watch kids play basketball 302 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 6: to see what kind of athletes they were to make 303 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 6: their assessments about it. That'sny offseasons, a lot of the 304 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 6: kids would play basketball and they would make those assessments, 305 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 6: would you guys do the reverse? Would you guys ever 306 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: go to baseball games if an athlete was playing. I 307 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 6: don't know if that translates the same way, because I 308 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 6: think I happen to think that basketball players are probably 309 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 6: the best athletes. I think all around soccer players probably 310 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 6: get mad at me and and hockey guys, but I 311 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 6: think the reality I was they're really really great athletes. 312 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: Did you guys recruit that way too, or did you 313 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: just watch them on the basketball court. 314 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 7: I don't know if we had the opportunity to select 315 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 7: versus recruit, so we would do anything and everything to 316 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 7: try to get a kid who was a good athlete 317 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 7: and watch them. 318 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: I think in Phild probably backed me up on this. 319 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 10: I would love to watch end of basketball games to 320 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 10: see who wanted the ball, who was going to come 321 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,479 Speaker 10: through in the clutch, and see what else they participated 322 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 10: in if they were also a football player. 323 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 7: That never bothered me. I was fired up about that. 324 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 7: I've also played baseball anything. I want them to be 325 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 7: athletes and competitors and play every sport you can for 326 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 7: as long as you can, was my way of looking 327 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 7: at it. I didn't want kids to specialize back in 328 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 7: the day. But now it's a whole different world that 329 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 7: we're in and the world. 330 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: Of collage basketball has changed. Mighty league. 331 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 9: Ooh, I would go to football. I thought football was 332 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 9: a big deal. Well, to see how what kind of 333 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 9: teammate he was, and really to take the eye test 334 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 9: and say, well, that's tough, because I think like we 335 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 9: play indoors, you don't get hit, you don't get you know. 336 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 9: But there they practice when it's hotter than heck, and 337 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 9: they play when. 338 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: It's colder than cold. So just to see a kid. 339 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 9: Playing in that kind of atmosphere, and to be honest 340 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 9: with you, Rubert, at a certain point in time, you 341 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 9: don't have to see them play basketball anymore. You're more 342 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 9: going to see what kind of human being? And is 343 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 9: this somebody that I want in my gym. If the 344 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 9: kid has all the answers, or he has somebody yelling 345 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 9: to him all the answers. 346 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: It's not going to work, right, It's it's just not 347 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: going to work. 348 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 9: And just to be because you're passionate about can I 349 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 9: help them become a better person, not just a better 350 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 9: player and a better student, but go and see them 351 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 9: in the environments that maybe. 352 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: It's a little bit on comfortable. 353 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 9: Maybe they're overmatched in football, so I would spend time 354 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 9: at football games. 355 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 6: Do you think it was more important while you were 356 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 6: scouting them as Big five coaches in this area in 357 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 6: Philly or do you think this is something that's universal 358 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 6: as far as the competitiveness. 359 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: I know I don't wanted all my athletes to be. 360 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 6: Competitive, regardless of where or when, but I think it 361 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 6: seems to me except it always been for me, as 362 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 6: while I evaluate players that being able to handle the 363 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 6: Northeast and the pressure of being able to play in 364 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 6: this environment, I thought that was really important. You both 365 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 6: talked about makeup and how important that is, and you 366 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 6: know their overall competitiveness. 367 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: Is that something that's. 368 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 6: More germane to the East Coast way of plan or 369 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 6: the Big Five way of. 370 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: Plan or was it just in general. 371 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: For both of you? 372 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 7: I think, for in honesty, our world that we lived 373 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 7: in was more Northeast than anything else. We didn't go 374 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 7: that far away to recruit, But I think the toughness 375 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 7: and the athlete is all is the same everywhere. 376 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: I don't think that that changes very. 377 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 7: Much, but it's for us we would somebody would say 378 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 7: to me, have you seen this kid? 379 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: And he'd say, yeah. 380 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 7: I saw him, but I didn't study him, because that's 381 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 7: when you really get involved with a kid and you 382 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 7: study every aspect of how he is with his parents, 383 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 7: how he is with his teammates, how he is with 384 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 7: the referee, how he is when he comes off the 385 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 7: court and interacts with a little kid that says, I 386 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 7: want to be you in fifteen years. 387 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: Are you going to sign my autograph or whatever? You 388 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: want to see all of. 389 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 7: Those things that take place, how they present themselves as 390 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 7: a person, and then it's going to be the same 391 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 7: as they present themselves out of a teammates. 392 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 9: Grou the world, the world that you had to recruit for. 393 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 9: It is different because how many of those kids that 394 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 9: just were called in the draft last week? How many 395 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 9: are you going to end up on that team if 396 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 9: they make it to the show. 397 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: Very few? 398 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 9: Right, So in my world, I used to look around 399 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 9: and say, you know what, that kid shouldn't go far 400 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 9: from home because it doesn't go well for him. 401 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: It does not have to be a. 402 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 9: Phone call or a zoom call with the family. His 403 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 9: family's going to be at the games. We have an 404 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 9: advantage in the Northeast, and that there's so many players 405 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 9: and they're so well coached and prepared both in the 406 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 9: winter and in their summer basketball, that you can get 407 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 9: them to say, you know why, it's important that you 408 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 9: stay home because that night, when it doesn't go your way, 409 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 9: you need somebody to hug you. And if that's somebody, 410 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 9: it can't always be the coach, because we have thirteen 411 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 9: or fifteen of them that we have to take care of, 412 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 9: and not all of them are happy after every game, 413 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 9: win or lose. 414 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: But if they have family, that to me was a 415 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: really big deal in that they could. 416 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 9: Get home in a crisis and not have to pay 417 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 9: it get on a plane. So this area was important, 418 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 9: was the bread and butter for all recruiting. 419 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: So the Phillies are playing the Yankees this weekend and 420 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: the Yankees are struggling, and right now Aaron Who and 421 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: the Yankees man is getting killed because the Yankees aren't 422 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: playing well and he's not ripping his players enough in 423 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: the media, he's not holding. 424 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: Their feet to the fire enough in the media. 425 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Rob Thompson gets criticized for this quite a bit too, 426 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: because he doesn't go out and blast his guys after 427 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: they you know, Trey Turner misplays a double play, ball 428 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: fumbles it. 429 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: Guys are swinging out of. 430 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: Their shoes, out of their shoes, out of his own. 431 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: You guys, I think could offer some unique perspective on this. 432 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: So how did you guys handle this when your players were. 433 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 8: Playing, well, you had a bad play, a bad game, 434 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 8: maybe a bad stretch, and someone's asking you, Mike Jensen 435 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 8: or somebody's after the game asking how you know what 436 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 8: this call that you made or whatever, this play that 437 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 8: you call just bombed out? 438 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: And how do you handle that? 439 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: And how do you look at what's going on with it? 440 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: You know, get Rob Thompson, Nick Sirianni, those types of things. 441 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 7: I'm gonna just answer it and one with one succinct they. 442 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 2: Give it the credit, take the blame. 443 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 7: That's the when you sign those papers, when you take 444 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 7: that job, that's part of your responsibility. 445 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: Give the credit, take the blame. 446 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 7: And you just don't want those kids, especially back then 447 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 7: when they weren't being paid money, which now it's going 448 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 7: to be. 449 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 2: I think there's things are going to change now. 450 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 7: At the college level, But for the most part, you're 451 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 7: protecting those kids that you have in your program and 452 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 7: You're talking to them every day because you want maybe 453 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 7: they had a bad game tonight, you need them to 454 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 7: have a good, good game on Wednesday. 455 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: So let's make great scream. 456 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: Scream your praise, scream your praise, whisper. 457 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 9: Your criticism, and as often as possible, in public praise 458 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 9: and in private you can criticize and break them down. Now, 459 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 9: as far as the Phillies and Rob Thompson, they do 460 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 9: not want to. 461 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: Make me up. 462 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 9: If Reeler throws a ball this afternoon, I will want 463 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 9: him ship to Allentown. 464 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: Immediately, and I will volunteer to drive. 465 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: I will volunteer if Turner. If Turner doesn't get a 466 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: base hit, I'm like, seriously, what are we waiting there? 467 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: I am. 468 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: I am completely And it starts in Clearwater. 469 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 9: I watch every pitch and I react the exact same 470 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 9: wad way in Clearwater. 471 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: Because this is magical. 472 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 9: I don't have to preach to you guys like if 473 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 9: this disappears and we become Pittsburgh or one of these 474 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 9: dredge franchises, Like, I just can't get over what the 475 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 9: organization has done, with how good they are. When you 476 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 9: go down there and walk that concourse and you see 477 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 9: a family from North Philly and then you see a 478 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 9: family driving in from Tom's River or whatever. Please, we 479 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 9: cannot we cannot lose this. We cannot lose this. It 480 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 9: is so magical to have great baseball. I don't want 481 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 9: to ever see us where we're. 482 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: Can you imagine I had to go? 483 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: Can you be in that ballpark and see twenty thousand people? 484 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: It would be it? 485 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 3: I know we are, we all have. 486 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: What do you want? How about how good Wheeler is? Easy? Ridiculous? 487 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: That's insane to watch it. 488 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 7: He should have fifteen wins and being the number one 489 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 7: candidate for Cy Young. 490 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: No doubt. 491 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: I think we all agree that he's one of the 492 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 4: best pitchers in baseball. 493 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: Sh easy fellas he hasn't won his last two games. 494 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: I need to see one. 495 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 3: We'll put your we'll put you, We'll put you guys 496 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: on the spot. 497 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 6: If you guys were in the GM seat right now, 498 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 6: would you go chips all in and and tell your 499 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 6: prospects or would you hold something back and hope that 500 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 6: these guys can get it done. 501 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: That's why you had the job that you have. He's 502 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: a Politicially, I would do both. 503 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 7: To be honest with you, I try to find the 504 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 7: person that we think it's going to help us right away. 505 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: But you can't give everything away. 506 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 7: And because we're playing next year in the year after, 507 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 7: just like my man said, we gotta we gotta hold 508 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 7: under this nothing. 509 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 9: One arm, one arm, one arm in the bullpen, one 510 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 9: arm and one arm in the bullpen. 511 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: No b one arm in the book. 512 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 9: Don't mess with that psyche of that team. That that 513 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 9: picture yesterday of marsh carrying Sosa off the field. And 514 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 9: by the way, he must have gone to Lords overnight 515 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 9: because he's playing that That was. 516 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: That was a soccer fall, wasn't it. I wouldn't mess 517 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: with the psyche that of that. 518 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: So you're touching on something that always interests me at 519 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 5: the trade deadline. The teams that bring in talent and 520 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 5: buy their good teams their contenders. But oftentimes when you 521 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 5: bring in somebody, it can disrupt a little bit in 522 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 5: the cup off. Somebody has to take a take a 523 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 5: step back in their role. Somebody might actually have to 524 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 5: leave because. 525 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: You have freshmen coming up taking jobs. You have to 526 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: consider that the college. 527 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 9: This is how nuts it is for me last year 528 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 9: at the trade deadline when they they dfad uh Meryfield yeah, 529 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 9: I just said, I hope it didn't mess with that 530 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 9: locker room, because that locker room, this is my picture. 531 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 9: The Phillies were as classy as ever, honoring Dan Baker. 532 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 9: He and I were there, and Jay Wright was there, 533 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 9: and Dan Baker was speaking from home plate. And I 534 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 9: remember telling you this. I turned to my right. Twenty 535 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 9: six players were on the top railing, led by Harper, 536 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 9: and I said, that's why these dudes are special. 537 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: Don't mess with special. I tell you what. 538 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: There were some players in that clubhouse after Witt Mirrorfield 539 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: got released. 540 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: I wondered if it effected the juju in that clubhouse. 541 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think it's faked. 542 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: You know, Meryfield was in the basketball equivalent of a 543 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 5: gym rat, you know, yeah, and he was good in 544 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 5: that room. 545 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: Maybe you should be advising Dame Dembrowski. 546 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 9: Now, today's Dave Van Grouse's birthday, by the way, So 547 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 9: that's how. 548 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: And I also checked the Mets. 549 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 9: First thing I did at five o'clock this morning, when 550 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 9: I got up, I checked the Mets score from last night. 551 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: It's insane, It's truly insane that. 552 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: Before we really go, I know, you've got a podcast 553 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: filled make a different podcast. 554 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: What can you tell us about it? You've had fran 555 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 4: on it. 556 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 9: You've had fran On, I've had fran I've had nuns 557 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 9: who are serving the homeless. I did not want to 558 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 9: do sport. I did not want to do basketball only. 559 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 9: I didn't want to do coaching. I didn't want to 560 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 9: do yuck it up. I truly wanted to make a difference. 561 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 9: I wanted to make a difference in all of these 562 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 9: different ways because so many people have allowed me to 563 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 9: live the life that I live because they've made a difference. 564 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: So when I take people on, it's very formatic. 565 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: Beginning. 566 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 9: I do my Martelli minute, and then I do my guest, 567 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 9: and uh, we have a young lady. 568 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: Who deals with autistic children all over this country. 569 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 9: She says, guests this Tuesday, Next Tuesday, Next Tuesday's guest 570 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 9: number ten playing shortstop for the Philadelphia Phillies. 571 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: That'll be fair. Larry's fantastic. We all love Larry. That's 572 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: gonna be made. I don't know if we'll go live. 573 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 5: But no, I just want to say how much I 574 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: admire the the college basketball coaches in the Philadelphia market. 575 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all winter long, you guys slug it out 576 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: and you try to beat each other off and then 577 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 5: when it's over, I mean you guys, just who's respect 578 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 5: for each other and your and your your buddies. 579 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: You do great charity work, So that's. 580 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: Great. 581 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 6: Daddy, guys is part of the community. Guys, you're Philadelphia's 582 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 6: throw it through and we appreciate it. 583 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Thank you, see you guys on Broad Street. 584 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, join us. 585 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. 586 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: Phil Mark, Lly fran Don Free, thanks for coming on 587 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: the Phillies. It's awesome. 588 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: That was awesome. 589 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: All right, we've got a listen. This this is how 590 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: high tech we are. 591 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: Guys. 592 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: We're doing a fan question really, Eric promotion, Citty, what 593 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: do you got buddy? 594 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: Guys? How you doing a great job with the podcast. 595 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. I think we're all wondering about Schwarber, 596 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: with him being red hot and such a great leader. 597 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: Do you think the Fields are gonna. 598 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: Do what it takes to keep them and what will 599 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: it take to keep them? 600 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: Well? 601 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 6: I think that I don't think there's any question in 602 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 6: my mind that it always takes two to tango. But 603 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 6: I have to say that there's no question in my 604 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 6: mind that the Phillies are gonna do everything they possibly 605 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 6: can to shine the guy. I don't that's that's I 606 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 6: think that's their intent clearly, and he is a big 607 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 6: priority for them. The issue I think is really is 608 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 6: that Schwarber's could have put himself in a position to 609 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 6: try to get as much money as he possibly can 610 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 6: and the and the greatest length, and he wants to 611 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 6: whittle it down to places that he loves to play. 612 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 3: And I think he loves to play in Philadelphia, Don't 613 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: get me wrong. I think he really enjoys it. I 614 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: think that he is. There's a mutual respect there. 615 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 11: But but there's other cities out there that he could consider, 616 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 11: Cincinnati and Chicago and uh, there's gonna be some big 617 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 11: hitters in LA and some other places maybe in New 618 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 11: York that are gonna go after him. 619 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: And I think he wants to set his market. 620 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 6: And if I'm in the Phillies, I let them all 621 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 6: try to put bits on him, and I pay him 622 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 6: one more dollar than there than than they uh they 623 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 6: throw out there and try to get him done. 624 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 5: So I'll say this, I think they're gonna resign him, 625 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 5: as I said here right now. And the reason why, 626 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 5: obviously you need power in that ballpark. He's and he's 627 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: he's got big power. I think he's gonna continue to 628 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 5: show it into his late thirties. John Middleton is a 629 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 5: guy who listens. He's a business man. He listens to 630 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: his customer, he listens to his fan base, and they 631 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 5: want him back. And in the end, I think John 632 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 5: Middleton's gonna listen to his fan base and bring him back. 633 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: So that's my opinion. 634 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: We've made them, We've made the comparison all season that 635 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: he could be like the Phillies' version of David Ortiz 636 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: for the Red Sox. He's got this incredible bat speed. 637 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: It's not slowing down. It's got elite level bat speed, 638 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: and so it's not like we see a guy, a 639 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: bigger guy, power hitting guy, and his bat speed starting 640 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: to slow down. You're gonna know what's this gonna look 641 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: like in three years if we sign him to a 642 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: five year extension or a five year contract, I feel 643 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: like Kyle Schwarber is going to be hitting home runs 644 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: for the next several seasons. There's no safe bet, there's 645 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: no guarantee on anybody, but I feel pretty good about Kyle. 646 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: Schwarber being a productive hitter in the major league. They 647 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: need him in several seasons beyond this one. 648 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: They need him. Look at the year he's having. 649 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 5: We said earlier in the show, he's gonna starting to 650 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 5: move his way into the MVP picture. And now I know, 651 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: you know we Soto left the Yankees, but after Big C, 652 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 5: I just don't see. I just think they're gonna try 653 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: to wrap him up and do everything they can do 654 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 5: to keep him here because he is so valuable on 655 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 5: the field, in the battles box, in the club police. 656 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: He's a really special guy. 657 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 6: I was in the clubhouse when they Boston had David 658 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 6: Ortiz the last two years, his last year, excuse me. 659 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: He makes a really, really huge difference as a leader, 660 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: as a person in the clubhouse. 661 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 6: And that's the other piece of this that becomes so 662 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 6: important for them. I mean, they have Harper and they 663 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 6: have JT, and JT's gonna be a free agent, but 664 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 6: as far as leadership is concerned, and that's a hard 665 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 6: thing to buy, you can't quantify it. 666 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: But that's a really important piece of this as well. 667 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 6: And I think that that's another reason why they'll probably 668 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 6: resign him and do everything they possibly can to do. 669 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: So what's the number. It's a five year. 670 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 6: Deal, I think, and I think a five year deal 671 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 6: is gonna start with it's gonna start with a three. 672 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: I think it's one hundred and fifty million bucks. 673 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: And like I said, John Middleton listens to his customers, 674 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 5: and the people in this town want this guy back. 675 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: I think he's coming back. 676 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: Yes, no doubt, Yeah, thank you, yeah, thank you, Thanks 677 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: for shy. So I want to ask you guys. We're 678 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: gonna bring on Brandon Duckworth in a few minutes, but 679 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys, besides Suarez, is there 680 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: any other bats out there that might not be attainable? 681 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: But man, if you were Dave Dombrowski, Preston Manningly, you're 682 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: really bringing some heat on these guys. Is it Stephen 683 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: Kwan who would be amazing left field? 684 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: We did, We did it. 685 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: We did a show about a week and a half ago, 686 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: twenty five trade names flow. 687 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 6: No flow, heavy flow, heavy flow, heavy flow on Kwan, 688 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 6: Jeremy very minimal. I had very little or no flow 689 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 6: on Robert a little bit more now than I did then. 690 00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: I love it. 691 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 6: I think that for me, I think you just need 692 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 6: to get marginally better, marginally better, incrementally better in your lineup, 693 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 6: and then you've got to get much better I think 694 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 6: in your battle. 695 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: That's where I'm at. 696 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 5: Totally agree with that. So if you went after a 697 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: guy like Loriano, maybe he doesn't cost you, you know, 698 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 5: an arm and a lag, and you can use your 699 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 5: trade capital in the bullpen where you need that lockdown guy. 700 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: At the end of the game. 701 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 5: So, but Robert is starting to intrigue me with this 702 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: little turnaround he's had here. 703 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 3: Robert intriguing me depending on what I have to give up. 704 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 5: I'm not going to be fooled and give him up 705 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: and give up the farm for him. But I'd rather 706 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 5: spend big in the bullpen and get those last three 707 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 5: outs taken care of to. 708 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 3: Bring back Austin Hayes. Would bring Austin Hayes, I mean for. 709 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 6: The purpose, the reason that why they got him was 710 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 6: what he's doing now over there with the Reds. 711 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: I think the Reds are probably still in it. I 712 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: don't think they want to sell. 713 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 6: He's sort of cheap and stuff, so I don't think 714 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 6: they want to change that. 715 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 5: If you could get you know, Gino Suarez, you're probably 716 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: using more trade capital there now you have less to 717 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 5: us in the bullpen, so the you know, to me, 718 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 5: inch that offense along and go big in the bullpen. 719 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 4: What about what reliever would you guys want if you 720 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: could wave him out. 721 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm still in on Class A. 722 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 6: I know he struggled his last time out, and he's 723 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 6: had some struggles throwing strikes at times in certain situations. 724 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: I like him. 725 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 6: I still like the guys in Minnesota Duran. Again, these 726 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 6: guys have not really pitched in the tight, in those 727 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 6: tight situations to have to make them. 728 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: You'll get those three outs to get it done. But 729 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: I mean I would take him. 730 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 5: I still like Mason Miller, even though they're probably not 731 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 5: going to move them. And I love those four years 732 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: of control. Love no doubt triple digit fastball. Yeah, he 733 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 5: hasn't been there, done that, but you can say that 734 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: about every athlete. At some point in everybody's career, they 735 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 5: had to pitch him pressure for the first time. So 736 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 5: but you know, I, I you know, I like Bednar 737 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 5: his questions, whether he's a closer or not. To me, 738 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 5: he's having a hell of a year. Hellsley is gonna 739 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 5: probably go. I know, he's a rental. The guys from Minnesota. 740 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 5: The guy bird in Colorado. Another guy I like and 741 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 5: I think I would be on is ryselle Iglesias has 742 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 5: not had a good year, has been very good recently 743 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 5: in Atlanta. Would they trade him to the Phillies? You 744 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: know what, he's gonna be a free agent. I think 745 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: they probably would for the right for the right return. 746 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 5: I don't rule out right Ryssel Iglacia having a pretty 747 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 5: good final two and a half three months. 748 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: And you know he's been there, he's kind of been 749 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: there and done that. 750 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 6: No, yeah he has, and you know again he hasn't 751 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 6: had the greatest year, but he's starting to heat up 752 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 6: a little bit. And hey, we got Kevin Nolan from 753 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 6: Atlanta when and we never thought we would. 754 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 3: Get him, and we got him. You know who screwed 755 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: this up? 756 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 5: The Red Sox because they got good, they started playing good, 757 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 5: and they're gonna keep Chapman. 758 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chapman's the man for me. 759 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 6: I mean, I love the idea of having Eraaldis Chapman 760 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 6: and uh I. 761 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: This guy. 762 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 5: Gets hurt and I think that a lot of number 763 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 5: one target I gotta I gotta believe so control no doubt. 764 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 5: A power short car ride you can get him here, 765 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 5: like you make the trade at three o'clock, he can 766 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 5: close out that game. 767 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: O Roll. 768 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 12: This chapter was my guy, man. I was all about 769 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 12: as battle tested. He's throwing the ball with tremendous confidence. 770 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 12: He's left handed, which is you're gonna need Alvarado's coming back. 771 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 12: But he's not gonna be able to pitch in the 772 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 12: in the postseason. 773 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: So he was my guy. 774 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 6: But I don't think that's happening because Boston it's gonna 775 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 6: be tough for them to sell. 776 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, for sure. But we're gonna bring out 777 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: another guest. 778 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: We've got Brandon Duckworth forward Philly Brandon Duckworth, Brandon, Welcome 779 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: to the Philly Show. 780 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: Welcome. 781 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 13: Oh, it's great to be here, guys. I appreciate the invite, 782 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 13: and it's gonna be a lot of fun. That's awesome, man, 783 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 13: We're excited to have you. 784 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: So I want I want to start by asking you this, 785 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: At any point in the past week, have you said 786 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: to anybody you know, Billy Wagner bring all you know, Uh, 787 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, Philly's traded. 788 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 3: Me to that's right. 789 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, for me to get Billy traded for a Hall 790 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: of Famer. 791 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: He was traded for basically a Hall of Famer. That's right. 792 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: I tell you why. 793 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 13: You pinch yourself, and you know, to be associated with 794 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 13: a guy like Billy Wagner first and foremost is amazing. 795 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, I mean you're 796 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 13: just kind of like, oh wow, you can't do you 797 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 13: pinch yourself and say that's pretty dann cool. Something that 798 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 13: you can talk to your kids about and whatnot. But 799 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 13: you know, I always get the stuff from my kids. 800 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 13: Oh here we go, dad lore once a. 801 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so. 802 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 3: You've been involved in baseball for a long time. 803 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,479 Speaker 6: You've been scouting there with the Yankees for a long 804 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 6: long time, and. 805 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 3: You've seen a lot of baseball. 806 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 6: Tell us what you think, what some of the evolution 807 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 6: of baseball, what's kind of going on, and do you 808 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 6: see a big difference from the time you started scouting 809 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 6: till now. I think you've been at this what twelve 810 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 6: years now, ten ten or twelve years? 811 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 812 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 13: I think the big thing is utilizing the analytics much 813 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 13: more than we ever did in the past. We were 814 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 13: able to measure things, you know, whether or not how accurately. 815 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 13: It's continually gotting better. I think more of the players 816 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 13: are more open to all these things, so they're utilizing it. 817 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 13: Sometimes I think it's a little too much because they 818 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 13: never take a downtime, so as soon as the season's over, 819 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 13: next thing, you know, they're immediately in some of these, 820 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 13: uh you know places that are measuring all your spin rates. Okay, 821 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 13: now we're going to start tinkering with pitch grips and 822 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 13: and all that. Like we used to do it way back, 823 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 13: you know, but we used to do it by utilizing 824 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 13: other other players and saying, hey, how do you do this, 825 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 13: how do you do that? What's your thought process, what's 826 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 13: your grip like? So now we're I'm seeing some funky 827 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 13: grips and I'm just like, I would have never thought 828 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 13: to utilize that. And then you know the hitters, you know, 829 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 13: they're just trying to launch, and I think, you know, 830 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 13: I think that's where we've gotten a little bit further away, whereas. 831 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 2: There's more I guess you could say holes. 832 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 13: On players now as far as hitters, because they're tuned 833 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 13: to one thing and one thing only, and there's a 834 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 13: lot of three true out outcome guys. So I think 835 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 13: those are some of the biggest things that I've seen 836 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 13: and it's progressively gotten worse, and I hate to say 837 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 13: the fundamentals, it's not really been a strong suit in 838 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 13: Major League Baseball over the past few years. 839 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 3: I agree. 840 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 5: I think we're you know, once upon a time when 841 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 5: you were pitching, you never heard the expression pitching lab 842 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 5: where they're you know, changing grips and pressure points and 843 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 5: all that stuff, and you were out on the mound 844 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 5: figuring out how to get guys out. 845 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 3: And when you're on the mound, you don't. 846 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 5: You can't rely on a computer and a pitching lab. 847 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 5: You actually got to use your inate ability to actually 848 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 5: get guys out. So I think some of the analytics 849 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 5: and some of the technology has led to an over 850 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 5: engineered athlete that doesn't necessarily always think for himself. 851 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: But I do think it has its place. 852 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 5: I mean, we're we're seeing these skills that just are 853 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 5: eye popping, some of the movements on these balls. 854 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: But I think it has to be a balance. 855 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think, you know, I think that's some of 856 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 13: the biggest things is how much do you do with 857 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 13: guys and you don't want to take the feel out 858 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 13: of the game, because you know, we. 859 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: Always go crazy. 860 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 13: I'm sitting there watching guys and they're pulling stuff out 861 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 13: of their pockets. 862 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 2: Oh where do I have to adjust? Like back in 863 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: the day, a lot of the guys that we. 864 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 13: Had playing behind us, they knew innately, Oh who's pitching? 865 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: Okay, what's his pitch? What's this? What's that? What's the situation? 866 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: Now they're moving around on their own. 867 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 13: Or you have a center fielder that's saying, hey do this, 868 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 13: do that, shortstop saying hey, let's let's go this way. 869 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: Maybe he knows something that's going on. But you know, we. 870 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 13: See it a little bit now with pitchcon middle infielders 871 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 13: and center fielder they know what's coming in a lot 872 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 13: of regards, so they can cheat one way or another. 873 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 2: They can do different things. 874 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 13: So there's a lot of really good stuff, but it's 875 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 13: a matter of how much do you need without it 876 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 13: taking your feel away from the game. 877 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 5: That's feel is that's such a big word, and uh 878 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 5: and such a such a how did you get a 879 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 5: day off today? So Brandon is a pro scout for 880 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 5: the Yankees and they're out there, you know, looking for talent, 881 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 5: and you're going around and looking at minor league players 882 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 5: that you might be wanting to acquire. This is an 883 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 5: incredibly busy time of the year for the scouts. 884 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 13: Right, I'm still working, trust me, you know, I've been 885 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 13: away for a long time. 886 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 2: I was fortunate, let's have a. 887 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: Six weeks leading up to trade deadline. 888 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 5: Like for for a guy who focuses on the pro ranks, 889 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 5: you know. 890 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: You don't know where you're going to be from one 891 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: week to the next. 892 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 13: Like you can go to one series where I was 893 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 13: at and then they're like, okay, hey go here, go there, 894 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 13: and a lot of it will depend upon you know, 895 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 13: are you close to any certain group of players that 896 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 13: were interested. 897 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 2: In and so on and so forth. So you know, 898 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: I just came off the road. 899 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 13: I have a couple of days, but I'm also going 900 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 13: to see our minor league guys so that are potentially 901 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 13: part of some of these trades. So our club is 902 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 13: going to be playing in Wilmington, So I'm actually with 903 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 13: the good fortune of being able to drive to and 904 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 13: from and be at home. So you know, I'm doing 905 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 13: live in and look, I'm doing video reports. 906 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 4: I'm doing all sorts of stuff, making calls. 907 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 13: You know, trying to see kind of what the temperature 908 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 13: is on certain guys, what makeup is, you know, We're 909 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 13: just trying to make sure that we have the right fit. 910 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 13: Because the toughest thing, no matter whether you're in Philly, Boston, 911 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 13: New York, is can they handle the market, which you 912 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 13: guys were talking about earlier on the college drink. So 913 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 13: you know, if you can play in any of those cities, 914 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 13: you can play anywhere in the country. Now it's a 915 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 13: matter of say, you, guys, we look at a guy 916 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 13: that maybe on the in the Midwest or the West Coast, 917 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 13: and you're like, Okay, they haven't really played meaningful baseball. 918 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 13: Do they know what it's like to be like in 919 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 13: a pressure cooker where every little thing is scrutinized. Northeast 920 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 13: is at Philly, Boston, New York period, Like, it's tough. 921 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: It's very tough. You better have thick skin. But if 922 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 2: you if you. 923 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 13: Drive there, I mean, you write your own ticket to 924 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 13: handle me. 925 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 6: I just want to switch gears a little bit and 926 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 6: ask you about your time in Philadelphia as you were 927 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 6: coming through the system and as you were getting opportunities 928 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 6: to get towards the big leagues, going to big league camp, 929 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,959 Speaker 6: being in big league camp, any players that you sort 930 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 6: of idolized. 931 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 3: Or you learned from or players. 932 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 6: That as you got closer and closer to the big leagues, 933 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 6: you thought about or not. 934 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: Idolyzed is probably not the right word. Maybe you know, 935 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 3: seek maybe some of their advice and that kind of stuff. 936 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 13: No, I think the biggest thing for me was I 937 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 13: watched a lot of baseball. Like, not only did I play, 938 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 13: but I watched. I loved watching Greg Maddox and guys 939 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 13: like that pitch. So I tried to do all I 940 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 13: could to emulate some of those people and just say, Okay, 941 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 13: he doesn't throw particularly hard, but man, he's a master. 942 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: He knows what he's doing. He's one or two steps ahead, 943 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: you know. 944 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 13: So coming through, I was always just pound the zone, 945 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 13: pound the zone, pound this own. But you know, maybe 946 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 13: you have average stuff versus some of the kids that 947 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 13: you see today that have the big monster arms, but 948 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 13: you still have to command it. 949 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't play if it's not in his zone, no 950 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: matter what to do. 951 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 13: So coming through, you know, I would always idolize, Like 952 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 13: I used to love watching Kurt Schilling, Like. 953 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 2: He didn't care. He was just like here it is. 954 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 13: If I give up a homer, guess what, it's a 955 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 13: solo homer, right, solo homers generally don't beat you, and 956 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 13: you know he would give up his solo homers, but 957 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 13: he was eight innings in next thing, you know, complete games, 958 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 13: So you're. 959 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 4: You're trying to idolize something like that. 960 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 2: You know. 961 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 4: Obviously Greg maddox is who I really like to watch. 962 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 2: Just because he was a surgeon. He could do. 963 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 13: Different things and set guys up. He would set guys 964 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 13: up if you watched any of his thing on MLB Network. 965 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 13: He set up Jeff Bagwell for the playoffs, throw him 966 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 13: a pitch that he knows he wouldn't throw, and next thing, 967 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 13: you know, he didn't get it later on and said 968 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 13: it to Eddie's like remember three months ago when like 969 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 13: so guys like that tacticians, you know, and as you 970 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 13: work through you get into big league camp. You know, 971 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 13: I rubbed shoulders with a lot of great guys, like 972 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 13: a guy, a couple of guys that were. 973 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: Really close to me. The late rial Fourmier was amazing. 974 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, you'd have Ricky Beatallico in there, so 975 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 13: you would ask him things and you're like, okay, here. 976 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 3: We go, am I gonna put a quarter in? 977 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: What's gonna happen? What's gonna come out right. 978 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 13: But you know guys like Dan Pleasak, who in the moment, 979 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 13: like if I was in the bullpen and he's talking 980 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 13: about situations like those are the things that I don't 981 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 13: think a lot of people realize that happened. You're always 982 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 13: constantly learning. I would try to listen to the hitters 983 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 13: on the bench, listen to Bobby Bray, Ricky Ledee. They're 984 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 13: talking about guys and what they used to do. Hey, 985 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 13: you can pick this pitch. Two of the best guys 986 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 13: I'd ever seen picking pitches on pitchers or what they're doing. 987 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 2: So you're sitting there going, okay, now I got to 988 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: close up that hole. 989 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 13: Am I doing suff Or you'll ask them, hey, I 990 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 13: feel like people are on me. Can you see anything? 991 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 13: Some may tell you, some may not. They're like I 992 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 13: may have to face them later on down the road. 993 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 13: But you're always trying to get that edge to make 994 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 13: yourself better. Whether it's talking to position players, whether it's 995 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 13: talking to pitchers. You're talking to the pitching coaches and 996 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 13: coming through anybody that would come in on a rehab 997 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 13: you'd sit and talk to, you know. 998 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 2: So I don't think you ever stop learning. 999 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 13: And I think That's one of the biggest things that 1000 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 13: I think I could express to kids is ask questions, 1001 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 13: ask how people do it, and try to emulate someone 1002 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 13: that has similar stuff, similar style. 1003 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 2: You know, but stay within your strengths. 1004 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 4: Your son Easton's here, what I mean, he's playing the ball, 1005 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 4: travel ball. 1006 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything from your career that either 1007 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: you had success with or struggled with? Is like maybe 1008 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: like one or two things that you always key on 1009 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: with him or you would tell you. We have a 1010 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 1: lot of parents that listen to show kids playing baseball 1011 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: from five years old through high school right now, like 1012 00:45:59,440 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: what would you? 1013 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 13: I think that the power of positivity with young kids 1014 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 13: is immense. It's easy when you're on top of the world, 1015 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 13: playing hitting, making all the plays. But it's when they 1016 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 13: find themselves in a little bit of a rut and 1017 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 13: trying to help them get out of it the power 1018 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 13: of positivity because that's when the kids need you the most, 1019 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 13: when maybe they're struggling and whatnot, and they're like, oh man, 1020 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 13: I'm just not hitting, or I'm in a rut. Defensively, like, 1021 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 13: so hey, let's go, we're gonna work. I have all 1022 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 13: the confidence in the world. I think positivity at the 1023 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 13: young ranks I think is paramount. Get them to believe 1024 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 13: in themselves and maybe they're not doing anything wrong. 1025 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, they believe in themselves and they 1026 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 2: take off. 1027 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 5: Brandon, I don't know if you can, let's talk about this, 1028 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 5: but the state of the Phillies farm system. Can you 1029 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 5: give us a general overview of it? It seems like 1030 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 5: it's gotten better in the last handful of years. Seems 1031 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 5: like they have some marquee guys. We hear a lot 1032 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 5: of the name trade deadline time. You never knew who's 1033 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 5: on the move. But if you can, you offer a 1034 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 5: snapshot of the health of the Phillies bulb system. 1035 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 13: Yeah, like right now, they're pretty top heavy, and they 1036 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 13: got a pretty good top five guys, I would say, 1037 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 13: and then after that it's just kind of marginal type 1038 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 13: of prospects that you're like, Okay, can this guy turn 1039 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 13: into excuse me one a different player? Like, what are 1040 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 13: the odds? I think that's the big thing. And then 1041 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 13: then you have some the top tier and then you 1042 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 13: got some lesser knowns, or I should say, the kids 1043 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 13: that are at the lower levels, the tight eights, the 1044 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 13: Escobars of the world that have a chance to be 1045 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 13: pretty dang good players. I think they have some healthy guys, 1046 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 13: more of the upper echelon, but then it kind of 1047 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 13: falls off a little bit. But at the end of 1048 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 13: the day, they got enough to go out and try 1049 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 13: to bolster their bullpen, maybe get another position player if 1050 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 13: if they need or feel that they need that. But 1051 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 13: right now there's not a lot out there and prices 1052 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 13: are just going further up and up, and. 1053 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 2: No doubt, Yeah, that's awesome. 1054 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: Well, Brandon, thanks so much for for stopping by the show. 1055 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Well, I guess I was gonna ask you, 1056 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: what do you think the Philly should go out and do? 1057 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 4: But I guess he's not allowed to say that, say 1058 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 4: what they can do. 1059 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah. 1060 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 13: Yeah, they're in a good position as they're beating up 1061 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 13: on us this weekend. 1062 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 14: Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, what feeling on the Phillies. 1063 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 14: You know you've seen this weekend up in New York. 1064 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 14: Run prevention is key at this point in time. Playoffs 1065 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 14: is all about run prevention. They've got a strong lineup, 1066 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 14: I think, so. 1067 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 5: If you could do only one thing with the Phillies, 1068 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 5: a bat or a big arm at the end. I 1069 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 5: think I'm I think, I I'm picking up what you're 1070 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 5: laying down. 1071 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 2: Run prevention prevention sounds like a bullpen piece. 1072 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 3: That's that's a signal for bullpen. 1073 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: Well, now that let me ask you this question because 1074 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: a lot of people in Philly, of course, fans watch 1075 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,399 Speaker 1: their team and they see every flaw, but they don't 1076 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: watch all the other teams and see all their flaws. 1077 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 2: Could this team win a World Series? 1078 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: Because right now, you know, a lot of talk from 1079 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: Phillies fans is it's like the offense is too hot 1080 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: and cold, the bullpen's not consistentough. 1081 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 4: There's no chance, no chance they can win the World Series. 1082 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: Welcome to Major League Baseball in twenty twenty five. 1083 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 13: Everybody has the wars, as we say, and it's a 1084 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,720 Speaker 13: matter of when do you get hot. 1085 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: If you're hot at the end, you can run through 1086 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: a system, no doubt about it. 1087 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 13: You know, you just want to be one of the 1088 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 13: teams that doesn't have to play in the wild card, right, 1089 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 13: So if you're one of the top two teams, you're like, okay, great, 1090 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 13: now we can structure and get our all of our 1091 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 13: ducks in a row to start the game, and then 1092 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 13: guys get a little bit of a rest. Sometimes it 1093 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 13: can hurt because you take that rest and you're not 1094 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 13: playing all the time. 1095 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you can talk 1096 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: to anybody. They're like, no, we'll take that. 1097 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 13: We'll get into the Division series right away and not 1098 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 13: worry about it. 1099 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 2: We'll roll roll with that. So I think it's pretty open. 1100 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean, the Dodgers aren't playing great right now. Detroit's 1101 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: not playing great. We're not playing great. The team that's 1102 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 2: playing amazing right now is Toronto. I mean they're lighting 1103 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 2: it up. 1104 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 5: Hey, since they signed Guerrero, it's like that Composts came 1105 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 5: alive and they just started winning ball game. 1106 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1107 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 3: John Schneider was like on the hot seat. Now he 1108 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 3: might be the manager of the year. 1109 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 2: Well thanks, Brandon, appreciate it. Man. Oh my pleasure. Good 1110 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 2: luck to the Yankees. Maybe Yankees Phillies World Series. Heys, great, 1111 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 2: that'd be fun. 1112 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 15: But all right, we got another question. We got Jim 1113 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 15: from Warrington stop by a what do you got, buddy? 1114 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 15: I got a question for you. How much do you 1115 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 15: pay attention as a general manager to what the competitors 1116 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 15: are doing at So, for example, if the Mets announced 1117 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 15: the trade this afternoon for Duran and Buxton from the Twins. 1118 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 4: How would that is what Playbowski to do to combat that? 1119 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 3: I missed? 1120 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: So he said, basically, if the Mets go out today 1121 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 1: and they get Duran and Buxton, if you're if you're 1122 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: Dobrawski right now, how much does that influence what you do? 1123 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: And you go, oh crap, all right, we're gonna throw 1124 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: Painter in, Miller Crawford, We're gonna get Suarez, and we're 1125 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: gonna get you know. 1126 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you try not to be too reactionary as a GM. 1127 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,439 Speaker 6: You try to do what's best for your club. It's 1128 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 6: obviously would be a big blow, and it's in you know. 1129 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 6: I mean, the reality of it is, you gotta hope 1130 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 6: that your your team is gonna be able to step 1131 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 6: up for the most part. But I mean you still 1132 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 6: want to start trying to be aggressive. I mean, I'm 1133 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 6: a believer in in this situation because the team is 1134 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 6: good enough to win a World. 1135 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 3: Series right now as it stands. But I would throw 1136 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 3: my chips in and try to be as aggressive as possible. 1137 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 6: Who knows one of those doors closing, sometimes another door 1138 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 6: opens up in that situation. But I would continue to 1139 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 6: try to be as aggressive as I could, but I 1140 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 6: have to work a little bit in the back. Evil 1141 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 6: necessarily work in that vacuum, because hey, there's teams around 1142 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 6: you that are doing things. But but you also have 1143 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 6: to be really well focused on what the goals are 1144 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 6: for your team and your organization and and have those 1145 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 6: be foremost in your mind. 1146 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 3: And you can't really worry about too much about what 1147 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 3: the rest of the you know, rest of baseball is doing. 1148 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: That said, you do probably pound your desk when you 1149 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: see the Mets make that trade movement. 1150 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I would not be happy. Yeah, I would 1151 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 3: not have been happy if that happens. But but listen, 1152 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 3: that's part of the game. The beauty is in the 1153 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 3: eye of. 1154 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 6: The beholder all the time. You never know what prospects 1155 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 6: other teams you're interested in. You never know what kind 1156 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 6: of talent other teams are willing to give up. And 1157 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 6: that's the difficulty of making trades, especially at this time. 1158 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: There you go, awesome, thank you, I appreciate it, all right, 1159 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: Ruben h phillies up. 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This is an appetizer. 1190 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: Appetizers, Ah, Jimmy, the right guys, let's bring We brought 1191 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: the pizza, but we got the man that makes the pizza. 1192 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 4: We got Chuck Bango for Manco and Manco. How are you, Chuck. 1193 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Philly Show. 1194 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 16: Thanks for having Thank you for being here. It's absolutely 1195 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 16: great to have you. Our fans appreciate, our customers appreciated. Yeah, 1196 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 16: this is these guys waiting line overnight. 1197 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah that's awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah, we are 1198 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 4: really excited to be here. 1199 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 2: Same here, guys. 1200 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 3: So tell me about your experience. 1201 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 6: I know, I know you have a great relationship with 1202 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 6: the Phillies organization, and I know it's it's something that's 1203 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 6: important to you to watch them have their successes and 1204 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 6: you've gone through the successes and failures. 1205 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 3: Tell me about you know when that started for you. 1206 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 6: Because you're you're not necessarily a Phillies originally a Phillies. 1207 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm a I'm a border Race Phillies fan. 1208 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 17: I'm responsible for sneaking about five hundred pony bottles of 1209 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 17: beer into the bat back in. 1210 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 16: The day, a false bottom in the cooler, Eagles fire sixers, 1211 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 16: all all of our staff here for Phillies fans, and 1212 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 16: the Phillies approached us to be a corporate partner with 1213 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 16: them four years ago. We said yes, and it's been 1214 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 16: a great ride on both sides of the baseball Aaron 1215 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 16: Mark and the Phillies. 1216 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 2: It's just been unbelievable. Cindy Webster has been great to 1217 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 2: deal with. 1218 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 17: She's she's the best back there and having and this 1219 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 17: is the icing on the cake. 1220 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: And we're proud to be part of your. 1221 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 5: So we're in the era of analytics. How many pizzas 1222 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 5: do you sell every night? And Citizens Mac Park? 1223 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 2: A lot? I can tell you about half. To tell you, 1224 00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,879 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, a lot. 1225 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 3: We saw a lot. 1226 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 2: Savannah Manana's last night was off the off wow. But 1227 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 2: we're just proud to be part of the Phillies organization. 1228 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 2: Just been unbelievable extremes. 1229 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 17: I mean a diehard baseball fan to meet a few 1230 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 17: folks the Phillies players, John Middleton, his staff just fantastic. 1231 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 5: I know you saw a lot because all I see 1232 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 5: is people walk in front of the press box. 1233 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 2: So Chuck, when you get, you get. 1234 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 4: You've been assistants Bank Park since twenty twenty two. 1235 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,399 Speaker 1: You're our four year right, So I wrote, I wrote 1236 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: a little story, Uce wherever have to re signed exactly 1237 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: exactly right, exactly right. I wrote a little story the 1238 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: first homestand the first of of opening weekend. Yes, as 1239 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: this Bank Park post game, the Phillies are about to 1240 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 1: go on the road. You had players were just crushing 1241 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: Manco and Manco in the clubhouse. Remember Jeans of Gura 1242 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of slices. I remember that very distinctly. 1243 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: And I remember people were leaving the ballpark with whole pies, 1244 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 1: like they would go to the game, get pizza and 1245 00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: then on their way out. 1246 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 4: I think you sold a brown almost six thousand pizzas 1247 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 4: in that six games. 1248 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 2: We were busy. We were actually overwhelmed. 1249 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean that's how what a huge hit it is. 1250 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 1: It was such a huge hit. John Middleton a few 1251 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: years later called you up and said, we want you 1252 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: to do what do you know what I'm asking you 1253 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: go down to clear Word, clear Water and bring down 1254 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: Manco Manco. Now, I also asked you this a few 1255 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: years later when you're coming into clear Water. I said, Chuck, 1256 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: are you one of these pizza guys that believes the 1257 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: water makes the pizza? And you said one hundred percent. 1258 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: I said, all right, So you don't have the Ocean 1259 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: City water in Clearwater, Florida, But you said you have 1260 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: a little. 1261 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 2: We bring the water to Ocean City or to clear Water. Yes, yeah, 1262 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,919 Speaker 2: you have, like we bring it to the bank. 1263 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 17: Well not literally, but we used the same water to 1264 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 17: make the doll in clear. 1265 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 2: Water as well as I'm filled out here. 1266 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: Yes, so the pizza in clear Water tastes like the 1267 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: pizza right here. 1268 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 2: If it didn't, our loyal fans will let us know 1269 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 2: and York minute. 1270 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 6: So so when I make a beat back in the 1271 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 6: day when I made a big trade and we got 1272 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 6: you know, the hundred pencils of the. 1273 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 2: World and the Royals Wilds to the world. 1274 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 6: I know how our our front office felt when we 1275 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 6: got those things done. How did it feel when you 1276 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 6: guys were finally in the ballpark and building that really 1277 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 6: what was that day like for you? 1278 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 3: When when you guys became part of Citizens Bank. 1279 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 2: Day, we ain't the contract. 1280 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 16: It was just overwhelming and as I told Dave Buck 1281 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 16: and Howard and John Middleton, and we were just honored 1282 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 16: and humbled to be there. 1283 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 2: Couldn't believe it. We still pitch ourselves. We get to 1284 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 2: go into that ballpark, be. 1285 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 16: Part of this organization and sell pizza to or fans, 1286 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 16: and I have to thank our loyal fans. 1287 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 2: Without them, we'd be nothing. So it's just. 1288 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 6: Just you're feeling here. You're following here in an ocean city. 1289 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 6: I've been coming down here for many, many years. It's 1290 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 6: been a staple. It's been something that you know, everybody Maco, 1291 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 6: macOS and me that you come down, that's something you 1292 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 6: at you actually have to do. I mean, my kids, 1293 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 6: you should come down. First thing that we did was 1294 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,919 Speaker 6: come here. How does that make you feel like you're 1295 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 6: you're the king on the boardwalk here? 1296 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 17: I mean, we're humble, we're honored. We don't take anything 1297 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 17: for granted. I really have to give a shout out 1298 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 17: to my wife and her parents back there. Her parents 1299 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 17: are the founders of the company. Next year b O 1300 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 17: seventieth anniversary, and we work hard to keep this place 1301 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 17: going the way it goes. You can see the customers 1302 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 17: who are stay up in here and we don't. We 1303 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 17: don't take it for granted to me. 1304 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: To me, one of the cool sites about just again 1305 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: going back to spring training clear Water is to see 1306 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 1: people walking. I always tell people that's like a bucket 1307 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: list item. If you haven't any clear Water, you got 1308 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: to go because to the atmosphere. 1309 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 2: Is just tremendous. 1310 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: And now you see people around walking around with the 1311 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: box Manco Manco pizza boxes. I mean even at Citizens 1312 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 1: ban I mean it's one thing for people to come 1313 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: down here in the short and being your restaurant needed, 1314 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: But what. 1315 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 2: Does it feel different? 1316 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: Like what do you think when you see people walking 1317 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,439 Speaker 1: around Citizens Bank Park with the pizza boxes clear Water? 1318 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 2: I just say it's amazing. I just think it's amazing. 1319 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 17: And uh, if my wife isn't at the game with 1320 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 17: me and my work husband. 1321 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Greg, who's back there. We go to about seventy five 1322 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 2: of the eighty games. So text me and go, I 1323 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 2: saw a box. I saw a box. It's all yeh, 1324 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 2: there we goes. These boxes are great. That's right, there 1325 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 2: we go. This is the box you see? I mean, 1326 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 2: they're all over Clearwater. 1327 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's amazing, it's stay hard, it's great. 1328 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 6: So I want to go back to your childhood a 1329 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 6: little bit and what were your favorite if you were 1330 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 6: going to pick out your favorite Phillies teams, what year, 1331 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 6: what team, what players? Were the teams that you you 1332 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 6: felt that you really sort of gravitated. 1333 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 18: Mike Smith days in nineteen eighties were fantastic, and the 1334 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 18: eight No. 1335 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 2: Nine teams, yeah, really everyone in between. It was just 1336 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 2: it was it was just great. 1337 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 18: All the players are great, whether it was Steve Carlton, 1338 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 18: Mike Schmidt, cho Brad Lage. It's just great to watch. 1339 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 18: It's my favorite sport. Oh really it is. You're still 1340 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 18: your favorite sport favorite. 1341 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:57,439 Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. 1342 01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Awesome. 1343 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 16: We love it guys, and you do a great job 1344 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 16: and thank you for being here. 1345 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we have. 1346 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 1: We love Every Monday, we do the Manco Manco Best 1347 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Week segment, we do the Player of the Week, and 1348 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: we always out of fun, a little fun debate every 1349 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: once in a while. 1350 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Sometimes we agree. 1351 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 3: Sometimes we agree, sometimes we. 1352 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 16: Don't know that's the game right to banter about. 1353 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 3: We agree that this is great stuff. We got here. 1354 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 3: There was a line out in front. You weren't even 1355 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 3: open yet, there was already a line. 1356 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 4: I know that. 1357 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 2: I mean that's gonna be great as well. 1358 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what move were you making to try to 1359 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 3: break make this team better? What's your move? Yeah, what's 1360 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 3: your what's your deadline move? 1361 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 2: But you got one move to make? 1362 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 1363 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Chuck? One move? Maybe Suarez? 1364 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 6: That's like, all right, Henny, you give away the farm 1365 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 6: to get a couple of Reynolds. 1366 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 2: But uh, I think you're okay. 1367 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 3: With where they are. Just go ahead and get another bat. 1368 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 2: Bring up Painter, Let's try out Crawford. What do we 1369 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 2: have to lose? Bringing up Justin Bofford? See what he 1370 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 2: could do. I agree with that. 1371 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 3: I think, all right, right on, I think he's gonna 1372 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,919 Speaker 3: be up major league pitching, and he's not. It's real. 1373 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 5: If he doesn't hit it right away, eventually he's gonna there. 1374 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,959 Speaker 3: There is a breaking pare no doubt. 1375 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 2: And I'm excited that that Robertson's back. In a strange way. 1376 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 3: I like that guy. 1377 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, he pitched well, and he knows he's been here, 1378 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 5: done it, been here, and he knows pizza to he 1379 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 5: knows pizza. 1380 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 2: That's right. 1381 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: What do you order when you when you get when 1382 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: you're here, Like, do you have a go to playing 1383 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 1: in a white broccoli? 1384 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 2: Hands down my favorite really white brock white. 1385 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 3: And get some bright white broccoli, the white Brompton green. 1386 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 2: She says, A Heineken bottle doesn't count. 1387 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 3: I'm not leaving it without some white broccoli. Brother, take 1388 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 3: care of that is amazing. 1389 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 2: I like to know that. 1390 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 4: I like to know what the guy that makes when 1391 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 4: he eats. 1392 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 2: That's a great recommendation. That's awesome. 1393 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 4: Well, Chuck, thanks so much, man, appreciate us. 1394 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1395 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 2: This has been awesome. 1396 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 19: Jonathan Jang hungry guy. Thank thank everybody. We're gonna we're 1397 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 19: gonna wrap this up. I want to say, Dick Allen's 1398 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 19: going to the Hall of Fame today. 1399 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 2: That's huge, you guys, It's a wonderful years. I mean, 1400 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 2: what are you any thoughts on Dick Allen going in. 1401 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 3: I'm just so disappointed. 1402 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 6: I'm happy for the family clearly that Dick Allen is 1403 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 6: now a Hall of Famer or will be. 1404 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 3: It's just unfortunate that he wasn't able to enjoy it 1405 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 3: while he was with us. 1406 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 6: One of the best athletes that ever played, ever done 1407 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 6: a uniform in Philadelphia, which was you know, my dad 1408 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 6: used to talk about it all the time, how how 1409 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 6: special he was as a as a player, probably the 1410 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,920 Speaker 6: most misunderstood player back. I mean, he was truly the 1411 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 6: most misunderstood player, and he took a lot of heat. 1412 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 3: It was a difficult life for him. 1413 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 6: Here in Philadelphia at that time, and for him to 1414 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 6: work through it and be the player that he was 1415 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,880 Speaker 6: and then to come back again to Philadelphia make an impact, 1416 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 6: great thing. It long overdue. I'm glad it's happening. God 1417 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 6: blessed the Dick, the Allen family. I'm super super happy 1418 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 6: for all of them. Well deserved, and it's great that 1419 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 6: he's gonna be forever, Yeah, in Cooperstown known as one 1420 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,479 Speaker 6: of the best players that ever played the game. 1421 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 3: Long overdue, well deserved. 1422 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 5: I mean, from sixty four to seventy four, that's eleven seasons, 1423 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 5: his numbers were right there with Hank Aarons. You know, 1424 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 5: one of the criteria, I think loose criteria, unofficial criteria 1425 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 5: that we looked at for the Hall of Fame is 1426 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 5: dominating your era, and he was a dominant hitter in 1427 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 5: his era from sixty four to seventy four. 1428 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 2: You look at some. 1429 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 3: Time at his nineteen sixty six season. It is incredible. 1430 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 5: Maybe he beloved in the Hall of Fame just based 1431 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 5: on his nineteen sixty six season, and there was some 1432 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 5: real great season finished like. 1433 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 3: Fourth in the MVP that year. A bunch of guys 1434 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 3: had great years. 1435 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 5: But I am really happy for him, having gotten to 1436 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 5: meet him a few times, a real gentleman. And I'm 1437 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 5: happy for John Middleton because, uh, I think he spearheaded 1438 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 5: this effort to help right this wrong that he wasn't 1439 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 5: in there, and it's it's great to see that it's 1440 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 5: happening today. 1441 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got his number retired a couple of years ago, 1442 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 1: but when when Dick was still around, and I definitely 1443 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 1: think that that kind of pushed him to the forefront 1444 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 1: of the minds of some of those. 1445 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 4: Voters on the Doubt Hall of Fame Committee. 1446 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: So, uh, thank you so much. Thanks to everybody that 1447 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 1: stop by to watch a show. Thanks to Phil Martelly, 1448 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, Brand Duncan, Thank you, Brendan Duckworth, thank Chuck Bangle, 1449 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 1: thank you everybody at Manco and Manco. The Philly Show 1450 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,439 Speaker 1: will be back. We're gonna have a few, We're gonna 1451 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: have several episodes this week. Is I have a feeling 1452 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: the Philly that be making some emergency. 1453 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 3: Let's get to eat some pizza, the slide some in. 1454 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:51,959 Speaker 3: All right, well it's that time. 1455 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 4: Well thanks everybody, We will be back. 1456 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 2: Philly Show will be back this week. 1457 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 3: Smelling Later, Boys, Smellia Je Smellia