WEBVTT - Accepting Your Body with Krista Williams

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Deeply Well. This show is a soft place

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<v Speaker 1>to land on your journey, a space where we explore

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<v Speaker 1>what it truly means to live well from the inside out,

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<v Speaker 1>not perfectly, but honestly, with all the complexity, the paradox,

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty, and the wonder of being human. Because in

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<v Speaker 1>a world that is constantly pulling at us, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the space to come back to yourself, to your body,

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<v Speaker 1>your truth, to the practices that genuinely sustain you, the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that work when life is actually happening. This show

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<v Speaker 1>is for the seekers, the creatives, the sensitive ones, for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone doing the quiet, courageous work of becoming whole. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Deeply Well. Welcome back to Deeply Well. I'm your

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<v Speaker 1>host w Brown. Today's guest is a very dear friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, Krista Williams. Krista is the co founder of

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<v Speaker 1>almost thirty, a global community and brand that is dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to empowering individuals through life's transitions. As the co host

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<v Speaker 1>of the critically acclaimed almost thirty podcast, she is a

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<v Speaker 1>leading voice in spirituality and wellness. She also co created

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Microdose, a top rated daily inspiration podcast. Christa leads

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<v Speaker 1>Luxury Wellness retreats and has helped thousands through her courses,

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<v Speaker 1>The Life Edit and Metamorphosis. Her first book, Almost thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>a definitive guide to life you Love for the next

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<v Speaker 1>decade and beyond, co written with Lindsey Simsick, is available

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere now without further ado. My girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, I'm so happy to yo what. I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be here with you? A dream, A dream?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I was thinking today, like this time

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<v Speaker 1>last year, we were in the thick of book oh chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were my life. You were my lifeline. You were my

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually thinking about that yes or yesterday when

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<v Speaker 2>we talked on the phone. I was like, I needed

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<v Speaker 2>three minutes of DeBie time to completely reset my entire

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<v Speaker 2>life perspective where I was like I felt lost going

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<v Speaker 2>into our call and I was on the phone with

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<v Speaker 2>you for ten minutes and I'm like, all, as well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the right path. I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got this Like it was It's so crazy how

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<v Speaker 2>you've been such a guide for me and such a

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<v Speaker 2>like a north star, like you just really hit and

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<v Speaker 2>provide me with the support and guidance and truth whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I need it, and I've been so lucky to have

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<v Speaker 2>that in my life. I've always said, any call with

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<v Speaker 2>you is like one hundred thousand dollars of coaching. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, I just I'm very grateful to be

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<v Speaker 2>in receipt of your site and your wisdom and your truth.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we were going through the period of our

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<v Speaker 2>book launch together, like I know that was for purpose

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<v Speaker 2>information and that was tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, thank you so much, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love you. You're my favorite phone friend. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>give really good phone to each other, and I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>reflect that back to you. I'm always truly truly grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for your love and your support and your advice and

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. But we it's been so beautiful in

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<v Speaker 1>our connection because we have had several parallels, sometimes happening

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time or sometimes happening you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>year two years apart, but very aligned, just very i

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, very cosmic in the ways that we can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like come in and process together around stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But the book, Okay, so first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the book is so good and I felt what I

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<v Speaker 1>really really enjoyed about your book, and it made me

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sad that I felt I was like in

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<v Speaker 1>my in the wrong time, because like, getting something like

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<v Speaker 1>that at that age is such an accelerator, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and something I've loved about the work that you've done

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<v Speaker 1>and the work that you and Lindsay have done together.

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<v Speaker 1>It is such I mean abundant, hardy, deep well of

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<v Speaker 1>resources and like guidance and companionship of navigating sometimes really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult things. You guys, you guys can get us right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with like peptides, with understanding our bodies, and

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<v Speaker 1>then also get right in some of the deeper stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you've shared a lot of really hard and deep

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<v Speaker 1>journeys that you've been on. When you came on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast a couple of years ago, you shared about the

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<v Speaker 1>darkness retreat you had done, and you know, just the

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<v Speaker 1>places that I think you're willing to go for yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to like mine and then give what you found to others.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm excited for this episode because I think even

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<v Speaker 1>since the last time you joined us, there have been

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<v Speaker 1>so many ways that you have been expressing and sharing

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<v Speaker 1>and helping. But yeah, how does it feel to be

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<v Speaker 1>a year out from the book and just your your

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<v Speaker 1>baby was birth. Yes, it'll always be your baby, and

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<v Speaker 1>now life has also gone on.

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<v Speaker 2>In my deepest truth, it feels a little sad because

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<v Speaker 2>I think the book is so amazing and incredible and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so proud of it. And when you have this

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<v Speaker 2>like marketing engine of like putting it out there, doing

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<v Speaker 2>the thing of like wanting everyone to read it and

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<v Speaker 2>just burning yourself out, yeah, you learn to not love

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<v Speaker 2>your art or your creativity. And I see this happen

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<v Speaker 2>with women all the time, where it's like you have

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<v Speaker 2>this thing you want to do, create a substack, write

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<v Speaker 2>a book, you know, share online, and then you burn

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<v Speaker 2>yourself out in the process, and it makes you not

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<v Speaker 2>love the thing you originally started to do. Right, And

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<v Speaker 2>so the burnout actually made me advert to the book

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit and made me kind of not want

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<v Speaker 2>to look at or be connected to the book. And

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<v Speaker 2>so there is a sadness there and almost like a

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<v Speaker 2>grief of like, I wish that this book was in

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's hands. I feel so proud of it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel super connected to it because the process of

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<v Speaker 2>marketing it was just so gruey like, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>need to be this is the whole thing is you

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<v Speaker 2>know everyone can do how you know, if they have

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<v Speaker 2>a creation or art, they want to put it out

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, they don't need to burn themselves out

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<v Speaker 2>in the process. Absolutely, that is not true. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>been my pattern of doing the most, pushing myself to

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<v Speaker 2>a limit, feeling like I have to prove something, feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like it has to be hard to work. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I was learning a lot about myself in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>But on the other side of it, what I was

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<v Speaker 2>most proud about myself for when we wrote the book

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<v Speaker 2>was the fact that I did not take anything personally

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<v Speaker 2>in the process, and for someone that used to take

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things personally. Oh, they didn't smile at me,

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't helpful, they didn't say yes, they didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to support us, they didn't want to have us on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, they didn't want to you know, promote on

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<v Speaker 2>social media. I literally stayed so focused to what I

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<v Speaker 2>needed to do and to what was on my to

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<v Speaker 2>do list, and to what I had going on, and

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<v Speaker 2>I really let go of the part of me that

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<v Speaker 2>searches for how people don't show up for me wow,

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<v Speaker 2>and how people aren't in reciprocity with me. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I really just focused on the people that were there

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<v Speaker 2>for me. You were there for me, like we were

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<v Speaker 2>there for each other. And I really just shifted my

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<v Speaker 2>focus to that. And I'm so proud of myself for that,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's been such a wound for me of feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like people don't show up for me. So to really

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<v Speaker 2>just be like, I'm really focused on those people that

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<v Speaker 2>are showing up makes me feel so proud.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Wow, it's deep and it's so true, and

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<v Speaker 1>like that is such.

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<v Speaker 2>A big thing totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Even like, yeah, noticing it and observing all that comes

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<v Speaker 1>with doing something like that, it's wild. It takes you

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<v Speaker 1>on such an additional internal journey with yourself totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people, you know, might A lot of women

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<v Speaker 2>I work with, they want to write books or put

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<v Speaker 2>themselves out there, and they don't realize that there's the

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<v Speaker 2>art and there's the creation. There's being with the consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>of what you're doing, and then there's other layers to that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's you expanding your capacity to be seen, to be visible,

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<v Speaker 2>to receive, to put yourself out there. Like I was

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<v Speaker 2>just on the phone with a friend today who's on

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<v Speaker 2>TV she's you know, been in the business for twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>she's super popular as a TV host. She's now doing

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<v Speaker 2>an in person event and she's like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do this anymore. No one's coming. I hate this.

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<v Speaker 2>This sucks, And I'm like everyone has that. Everyone has

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<v Speaker 2>that fear of putting themselves out there, of not being seen,

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<v Speaker 2>of being rejected, and I think for us, we just

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<v Speaker 2>have been people that have felt the fear and did

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<v Speaker 2>it anyways, Like, I know that I'm gonna be rejected.

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<v Speaker 2>I know some people are not going to like it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've always known that my creativity and what I

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<v Speaker 2>have to say and who I came here to be

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<v Speaker 2>deserves space and deserves room, and so I've always let

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<v Speaker 2>that be the lead for me rather than my fear

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<v Speaker 2>of like what everyone else is going to think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's so funny the way that mechanism works.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think for a lot of people too, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not always even fear of like the people and how

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<v Speaker 1>are you bringing received. Sometimes it's like nervous system capacities,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, we got to look at that too.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something I really realized coming off of that

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<v Speaker 1>book tour and I'm just like, my capacity can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that anymore. I can't like see me, I can't be

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<v Speaker 1>with a ton of people anymore. Yeah, Like it is

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<v Speaker 1>very challenging to my body.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the more in touch you get with your body,

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<v Speaker 2>the more in touch you get with your truth and yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>and the more embodied you are. Oftentimes, for women that

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<v Speaker 2>are highly sensitive or intuitive, you realize that those spaces

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel good. There's too much psychic energy, there's too

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<v Speaker 2>much going on. There's you know, most spaces are not

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<v Speaker 2>in the most supportant service of our nervous system. There's

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<v Speaker 2>bright li lights, air conditioning, synthetic fibers, smell sites, taste sounds,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it really is the greatest service to yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, Okay, this isn't for me, or this

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<v Speaker 2>is for me. And I think that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the new way women being like yeah, I could do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not, Like, what is going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>integrity for me and my body is paramount over, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be seen here, this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>get me get a photo. Yes, And you've always been

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<v Speaker 2>like a leader in that way. You've always listened to

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<v Speaker 2>your body as or I've always seen you as someone

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<v Speaker 2>that's listened to your body and listened to your intuition,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for understanding where to go and what space is

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<v Speaker 2>to be in.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you. I mean, let's talk about body.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about what it means to feel your body

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<v Speaker 1>from the inside, because that's the thing that I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when when a lot of especially women kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got activated to heal and grow and transform in

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of ways, I think the first thing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people notice is that their body and their

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<v Speaker 1>mind or like not incongruent. Yeah, and there is this

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of I don't know, detachment or even isolation from

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<v Speaker 1>that operating system. It's wild as you grow and heel,

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<v Speaker 1>like when things start turning on and you're like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like for anybody listening, like if you if you've

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<v Speaker 1>done pilates and all of a sudden, there are really

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<v Speaker 1>tiny thin parts of you that are hurting in areas

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<v Speaker 1>that you haven't thought about before. So these little little

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<v Speaker 1>parts of your muscles are like being engaged for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, and you're like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I didn't know I had that oblique right right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget I got my iud in I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that part of my body existed. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>most painful pain in my life. And I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if I had that body part. I'm like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>what is what?

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<v Speaker 1>Hilario?

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<v Speaker 2>No, honestly, I was like, where.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that like?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was so painful. But so many women are

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<v Speaker 2>so disembodied. And that was my journey. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come to the body conversation as someone that wanted

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<v Speaker 2>this to be something I teach or work with. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>my relationship with my body was so painful for me.

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<v Speaker 2>For most of my life, I lived in this prison

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<v Speaker 2>of never enoughness, never thin enough, never fit enough, never

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful enough, never enough. And I grew up in a

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<v Speaker 2>household where being thin was like an ultimate priority. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a real fear of being fat or having a

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<v Speaker 2>body that wasn't in shape. My mom's biggest fear, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>growing up was that she would have a child that

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<v Speaker 2>would be fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was like the narrative in my household was that,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we were sure it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of pressure. We were doing low fat, we were doing

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I was like, I was like a little

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<v Speaker 2>bigger when I was younger because I was using food

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<v Speaker 2>to soothe, and so I had this situation where I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't lovable because I wasn't thin, but also I needed

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<v Speaker 2>food to soothe in a household where attunement wasn't consistent

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<v Speaker 2>or regular, where I wasn't getting coregulation with my parent,

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<v Speaker 2>So you can always find that in food. So I

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<v Speaker 2>had this really beautiful southe of food. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>also had this pressure of being thin, and I really

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<v Speaker 2>lived most of my life until my twenties with that,

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<v Speaker 2>where my Neyar's resolution list every year would be lose

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen pounds. No matter what my weight was, it was

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<v Speaker 2>always lose weight. It was always on my to do list,

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<v Speaker 2>it was always part of my agenda. I would count

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<v Speaker 2>my steps, I would count my workouts, I would count

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<v Speaker 2>my calories, I would write down what I was eating,

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<v Speaker 2>I would count my macros like I really tried every diet,

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<v Speaker 2>everything you know possible to be thinner, no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>my weight was, and I'll never forget. In my twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>I was walking across my living room and I was

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<v Speaker 2>married at the time, and I remember just thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm going to die with being in this

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<v Speaker 2>prison of food. And body, and I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>going to be my cross to bear. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I'll ever get over it. I think maybe lifetime I

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<v Speaker 2>will maybe feel like I love my body, or I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at peace with food, or I'm at peace with you

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever, like being in the body. Yeah, And that

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<v Speaker 2>almost was a surrender moment for me of like I

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<v Speaker 2>give up. I really surrender to this experience that I'm having.

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<v Speaker 2>And that led me to a lot of my healing journey,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a lot of therapy. You know, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to specific retreats on it. I started reading on it

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<v Speaker 2>really as an act at that moment to more deeply

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<v Speaker 2>understand myself rather than fix myself. So when it became

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<v Speaker 2>an interest of more the relationship I had with myself

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<v Speaker 2>instead of me as a self improvement project, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>things really started to shift for me. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>I started to heal my relationship with my body. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>as I got older, I started to really see a notice,

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<v Speaker 2>especially doing our podcast that Reaches Women, that works with women.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've had incredible, powerful, successful women on such

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<v Speaker 2>as yourself, and almost all of them I noticed had

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<v Speaker 2>strug at some point in time with their body. They

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<v Speaker 2>had hated their body, they had diet, you know all that, Oprah,

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<v Speaker 2>Janine Roth, Mary and Williamson, Gaby Bernstein. You know, these

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<v Speaker 2>just powerful women in the space, and it was almost

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<v Speaker 2>like an initiation for them of sorts of being able

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<v Speaker 2>to wrestle with our human experience and the ways in

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<v Speaker 2>which we are told to objectify our body, to criticize

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<v Speaker 2>our body, that our body is an object, that we

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<v Speaker 2>are not good if we do not look a certain way,

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<v Speaker 2>that no matter what, even if we're saying something powerful

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<v Speaker 2>or interesting or whatever, we have to look thin or

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful while doing it. The pressure that women have, it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like this thing where I noticed that so

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<v Speaker 2>many women are on this part of their path of

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<v Speaker 2>their spiritual awakening or their journey where they have to

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<v Speaker 2>make a home for themselves and their body, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have to really be present for the ways that they're

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<v Speaker 2>no longer choosing to be present for their life because

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<v Speaker 2>they're using food, or they're using control, or they're using

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<v Speaker 2>these mechanisms that they learned. And food is a really

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<v Speaker 2>great place to avoid feeling feelings. Food is a really

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<v Speaker 2>great coregulator. Food is a really great place to go

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<v Speaker 2>if you want connection or you want love and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not there. And so realizing this initiation point and then

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<v Speaker 2>realizing all the ways that women really use food to

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<v Speaker 2>not be present in their bodies or not be present

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<v Speaker 2>in their power, I just sort of really started to

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<v Speaker 2>unravel and realize the power of our bodies and our

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<v Speaker 2>relationship to our bodies and food. And it just became

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<v Speaker 2>this way of understanding myself and my soul and myself

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<v Speaker 2>and God in a way that I really am still

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<v Speaker 2>at this moment surprised by HM.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so interested in, like, how does that show up

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<v Speaker 1>for you from the inside, Like what are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the feelings that arise or some of the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of indoctrination to like body and food in childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that show up internally?

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<v Speaker 2>So for me and for a lot of people, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a binger, So I was someone that binge. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would overeat like twelve protein bars pean up like

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<v Speaker 2>just it would be healthy stuff, but it would be

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<v Speaker 2>overeating to the point where I'd be completely unconscious. So

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<v Speaker 2>what would be happening would be I'd be completely overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. I'd be completely out of touch with

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<v Speaker 2>my spiritual life. I'd be completely you know, avoiding the

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<v Speaker 2>truth of how I was feeling. Like as an example,

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<v Speaker 2>in my marriage, I was in a situation where I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like my voice wasn't heard. I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>had to self erase. I felt like I was numb,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I wasn't allowed as a being in

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<v Speaker 2>the space. And so when those feelings started to come up,

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<v Speaker 2>of like I feel sad, I feel grief, I feel depressed,

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<v Speaker 2>I had learned from a young age that if you

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<v Speaker 2>have big feelings, people don't care about them or really

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<v Speaker 2>you know, want to hear about them. So what you

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<v Speaker 2>can do is soothe yourself with food. I can get

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<v Speaker 2>the dopamine, I can get the serotonin, I can get

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<v Speaker 2>this like nourishment from food that I'm not getting from

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<v Speaker 2>my mother. And so you have this experience of having

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<v Speaker 2>these feelings come up, and almost subconsciously, you reach for

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<v Speaker 2>food as the numbing mechanism or the numbing agent for

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<v Speaker 2>actually feeling the feelings that you're avoiding. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>would binge at the end of the day, and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>almost go unconscious. And if anyone's like binged in their life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what that's like, where it's almost like you're

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<v Speaker 2>possessed by something like you become possessed by this feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of like needing something outside of you to regulate, to avoid,

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<v Speaker 2>to numb, and then afterwards going to the shame spiral

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<v Speaker 2>of there I did it again. Tomorrow, I have to diet,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to exercise, sometimes purging. I never purged, but

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<v Speaker 2>people purge, so you start this like shame cycle. And

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<v Speaker 2>the internal experience that I was really feeling was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have so much grief and emotion and pain, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have no where to put it, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>no one to be with me in it, And so

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<v Speaker 2>what is the thing I can do, and what is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that I can use as a tool to

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<v Speaker 2>help me? And for me? That was food for other

0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.480
<v Speaker 2>people that could be drinking for other people that could

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<v Speaker 2>be numbing themselves on social media for other people, that

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<v Speaker 2>could be shopping for other people that could be drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of us have our escape from feeling what's

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<v Speaker 2>actually here. And the more that I've really been present

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<v Speaker 2>with how I'm feeling and you know, the parts of

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<v Speaker 2>me that really need tending, the less I've needed food

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid it, and so a lot of the path

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<v Speaker 2>of healing our relationship to food and our body is

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<v Speaker 2>saying yes to our feelings and saying yes to what's

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<v Speaker 2>truly there. And in a society that's interested in productivity,

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<v Speaker 2>that's interested in you know, optimization, that's interested in being

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<v Speaker 2>busy all the time like we were last year, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not really prioritized. It's not really doesn't make a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sense for me to lay on my couch last

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<v Speaker 2>night and feel the grief that I've been feeling about

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<v Speaker 2>having a sick dad. I had emails to get to,

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<v Speaker 2>I had stuff on my phone, like I had TV

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<v Speaker 2>shows to watch, and so listening and really feeling the

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<v Speaker 2>feelings is sometimes the most radical act and really creates

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<v Speaker 2>that relationship with ourselves that really breaks the pattern and

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<v Speaker 2>the habit of using food to avoid what we actually feel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like within the journey, there are so many separate journeys,

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<v Speaker 1>I knows, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Yeah, the layers of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that is the layers of it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Your second podcast, that's your like tattoo, the layers of

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<v Speaker 2>the layers of Debbie Brown original.

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<v Speaker 1>So speaking to the layers of kind of like the

0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Speaker 1>vast thing that you just unpacked, It's like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things are happening. One, you actually need to meet

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<v Speaker 1>your body, but then at the same time you have

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<v Speaker 1>to repair with your body, repair the relationship. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that process? How do you surrender to that process? How

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<v Speaker 1>does it begin repairing the lifelong relationship you've already had

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and then developing a new relationship, a new narrative,

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<v Speaker 1>a new respect I'd imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I always think of three things. The process

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of take people on and invite them to

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<v Speaker 2>is to accept, to allow, and to accept and to embrace.

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<v Speaker 2>So I never want a woman to be like, I

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<v Speaker 2>literally can't stand my body. I'm so disgusted with myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the subconscious program that says, never enough, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to lose weight, all of these things, and if

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.920
<v Speaker 2>we in our life have that constantly going, it would

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:08.000
<v Speaker 2>be kind of insane for me to be like, celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>your body, love your body, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>When people would say that, it'd almost be like people

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was on my food journey, people

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<v Speaker 2>would be like, just stop when you're full. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you understand how this works. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think you I don't think you're satisfied. Yeah, they're yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, just have one deserted day. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>will have twelve. And how it's going to be. So

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<v Speaker 2>when we can first just really allow ourselves. Just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to allow myself this experience of understanding that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>disconnected from my body. I'm just going to allow what

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.200
<v Speaker 2>is I'm going to allow that I'm disconnected from my body,

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<v Speaker 2>that I have a pattern that I use food to

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<v Speaker 2>numb or cope, that I constantly am looking at social

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 2>media to compare myself. I'm going to allow and become

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<v Speaker 2>aware of what's really going on. And for so many

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 2>of us, it's all subconscious. It's kind of running in

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>the background. And eating disorders and disordered eating is is

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>crazy because it's dis dyssyntonic, and that basically means it

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:03.880
<v Speaker 2>tries to be hidden. So for a lot of us,

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 2>our food and body stuff tries to be hidden. It

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 2>tries to stay in the background because it doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>us to change. So becoming aware of it to allow

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>it to be, I think is huge. What you can

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 2>do in that process, too, is a lot of journaling.

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<v Speaker 2>How was my mom relating to her body and food?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the media programming I saw around body and food.

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<v Speaker 2>How did my dad relate to his body and food?

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<v Speaker 2>What moments in my life made me cultivate a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with my body and food. If you've had sexual trauma,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have a different relationship to safety and

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<v Speaker 2>to your body. If you've been bullied, if you've been injured,

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>if you're sick, you're going to have a different relationship

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:48.200
<v Speaker 2>for your body. That's another whole ecosystem in itself. When

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 2>you have autoimmune or you're sick, like the body is

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 2>no longer safe, the body is your enemy. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole journey of that that we could go on. So

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<v Speaker 2>understanding where you really are and where you land and

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<v Speaker 2>I think and the patterns that you're in is essential

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 2>really allowing those to be and allowing those to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the second part is really accepting, so accepting

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<v Speaker 2>that I was someone that struggled with my body and food,

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<v Speaker 2>that I was someone that had a body that I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be at peace in, that I was someone

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<v Speaker 2>that used food to numb and cope, and then really

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<v Speaker 2>just being like, Okay, this is exactly where I'm at.

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be at truth from that I'm not

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 2>going to run from that, and then you can finally

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 2>move to a place of embracing your body and seeing

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>it as this vessel for divinity. Like I am so

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 2>in shock and awe sometimes that my soul chose this

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 2>physical embodiment of its experience in this lifetime for purpose.

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>You look how you look for purpose and reason. I

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 2>look how I look for purpose and reason. It doesn't

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 2>mean I'm better or worse. It is perfectly designed for

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 2>my life.

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 1>And we each are perfectly perfectly.

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Designed for your life, your soul is, and so embracing

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 2>the body becomes really the goal as this tool, this

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 2>like attunement tool. Women Who Run with the Wolves is

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>just one of the most powerful books. And I was

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 2>actually reading it in the middle of the night the

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>other night, the body chapter, because she was talking about

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 2>how this body is this attunement sensory like expert of

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.880
<v Speaker 2>what is safe, what is not safe, what feels good,

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 2>what doesn't, And we really just did we lose so

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>much access to magic and information and you know, experience

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 2>in life when we're out of our body, and what

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful thing to be using this tool that's always

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>been here with us to no longer fight with it

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and just rest in it for like our greatest good

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and for the most experience of our soul on earth.

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>How does that begin? You know, when you invite God

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>back into your body and then what is the what

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 1>is the step? I think with that because you alluded

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to this, you know, kind of earlier. How like when

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>you're invited to kind of get into this deepen layer

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and release something you've been working with your whole life,

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.120
<v Speaker 1>which is like you know, it's like we have big

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>curriculum and little curriculum at these big pieces. You then

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 1>do you go on this additional you think it's your

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>body and then you're really on your journey of rebuilding

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>with God?

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh totally.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Where did that come up for you? Where did that

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 1>show up? And how did integrating I think that piece

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>bring you into this wisdom of body.

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my journey with God's deepened after I started my

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 2>body healing journey, and I think now I really relate

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>to the voices that I hear sometimes or that we

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 2>can hear sometimes as women, of like you're not enough,

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 2>you're not you know, the kind of not enoughness, the

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of your too muchness, the criticism, the constant berating

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:57.439
<v Speaker 2>for what God created and gifted us, like that is

0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:00.479
<v Speaker 2>not the voice of God. That is not the of

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 2>the experience that I want to have or the experience

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 2>I know to be true. And for me also to

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>spend so much of my life and I say this

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>with love and reverence, obsessed with what I look like,

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.439
<v Speaker 2>because that's what it is at the most surface, benign level,

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>thinking that that is what matters, and that is what

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm here to do, and that I'm not going to

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>serve how I meant to serve or do what I

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 2>came here to do, Like that's not a life that

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I want. And we are here to do so much

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>more and to experience so much more and to serve

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 2>on such a bigger level than to constantly be obsessed

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 2>with what we look like. Yeah, and people live in

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that subconsciously all the time. I shouldn't eat that I

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>should eat, that I should work out. I'm not going

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to work out. I need to do this. Like, think

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 2>about your entire life. You think that that's what your

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 2>life you came here to do. Be obsessed with what

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you look like in your body, That's not at all

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 2>what God has for you in this lifetime, and I

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>know that to be true, and so now in my

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 2>deepening relationship with God, I give it up to God

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 2>more often, like my pain or my struggle if I

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>ever have it, which I don't much anymore, but anytime

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I find myself like God, I'm really feeling like you know,

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 2>the world is out of control right now, and I

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>don't really know where we're going as like a collective

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and a culture, and I feel out of control, and

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.719
<v Speaker 2>that's making me want to fixate and focus on how

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 2>I can control my body and food. And I just

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>give it up to you. I just give up any

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 2>of these patterns of lack, any of these patterns of scarcity,

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>any of these patterns of criticism and judgment, to you,

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 2>because I know they're not yours, and what's yours is

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 2>not for me either, And I really just want this

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>to be alchemized and removed from me. And I want

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>to love the parts of me that feel like they

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>have to take care of me or protect me by

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>focusing on food, or they feel like they're serving me

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and helping me by being concerned about my weight because

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>they learned from a young age that that's what we do.

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>And I want to really offer them love and reverence.

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>But your body is this spiritual instrument, this spiritual vessel,

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 2>like it is how we experience life. And I was

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 2>thinking about AI recently and this is the last part

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>of my tangent. And our body is our biggest differentiator

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 2>from AI now, Like we are human because of our body, like.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Truly, like literally truly literally, Yeah.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 2>And so it is even more essential and important for

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 2>us to be in the body, for us to experience

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>life through the body, for us to care about our bodies,

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 2>because that is what we have as humans. Yeah, that

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>is like the most human thing is this body. And

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 2>you know that when we bypass the body for anything

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>of the mind or the spiritual experience, like, that's not it.

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>We need to go through the body to go through life.

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>So it is almost like the ultimate act of rebellion

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 2>to love your body and to you know, befriend your

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 2>body and to be in the body, because the world

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 2>does not want you in the body. It wants you online.

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>It wants you on the internet, and wants you in

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>the mind. It wants you ruminating, it wants you anxious.

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>The enemy wants you in that if you want to

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 2>call it that, And to actually be like I'm going

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>to take the time and the spaciousness and have this

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 2>act of you know, rebellion and love to just be

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 2>in my body for five minutes when the world does

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>not want me here? Like what will that do for

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>your life? And what will that do for your relationships

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 2>and your experience? Here? God?

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>That is so real, Like our body is this is

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>our human technology for us being here? Yes, is the vessel,

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the thing that the container that allows us to have

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>this experience one hundred percent something that you had said

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to like the freedom that really comes when that's off

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the table, right when when whatever that noise is that

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>runs in the loop for you, for us, for you know,

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>our individual journeys, when you're able to resolve that the

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>amount of space and the space for new deepened relationship

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and a new focus. Right if this, if it's not

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have to be hyper focused on a

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>number on the scale, How can you hyper focus on

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>your body but with real love and concern and not

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>like obsession and control Because that's what I see so

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>much in your life, Like and that's that really is

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>like the I think some of the crux of what

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>your work is, it's like being a bridge to these

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>new systems for the human technology that we're here with.

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know, when I think of like your day

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>to day lifestyle, you are the most intentional person I

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>have ever met with food, with supplement, with care, with

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like nourishment of body, Like you have

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>such systems in place to really support yourself, and I

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>think that's so powerful, and that's what really rips people

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>out of their new selves or the things that they're healing.

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You don't put up the proper scaffolding, you don't give

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>yourself the respect of like developing process, but then also

0:31:55.240 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>like being in practice with it, being in creativity with it,

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that part of your life really organized. Yeah, because I

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like for years I've been like, girl, come give

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>me a life edit.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I know I need to, but it like.

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>What is your process with life edit and.

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Taking care of myself? Yeah, you know, there was a

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>moment I had, I think a few years ago where

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I was taking a flight international and it was like

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a sixteen hour flight and for some reason before I

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>was so concerned about everything I need to pack, and

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I packed myself no food and so there's food on

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the plane. Of course I don't fly first class. I'm

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>just I'm a rego. So I was flying in the back.

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>There's food on the plane, of course, but it's full

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>of preservatives. It's not the best it's and there's something.

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>For me weird about the salty.

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's disgusting. So it's gross. People can eat it.

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just not my testimony. So I realized on this

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 2>plane I had to eat the food. I had to

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>eat the peanuts and pretzels, and I just felt horrible.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and I thought to myself, if

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I was a mother and I was my own child,

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and I had taken myself on the plane, I would

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 2>have snacks, I would have meals prepared, I would have beverages.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I would have basically taken care of myself and nourished myself.

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>But for some reason, I wasn't taking the time to

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 2>really nourish myself and my body. And at that moment,

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>I really realized that there was such an invitation for

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>me to remother and repairent myself by being mindful about

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>the practices that I was doing, and by really valuing

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>my rituals and valuing taking care of myself, because for

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>a long time I would not take care of myself.

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't cook my own meals, I wouldn't really take

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>supplements consistently. I wasn't really cared about my sleep because

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really care about myself. I didn't really think

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I was someone that was worth caring for. I didn't

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 2>really think I was someone that was worth the time,

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>energy and attention. And I think what I'm so grateful

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.719
<v Speaker 2>for is that when I found more of a purpose

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>in life and when I found God, it allowed me

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the confidence to be like, no, I actually deserve this. This,

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 2>this is what it means to take care of myself

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>and a mother myself. And so now it's been a

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 2>big part of my practice to really take time to

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>be intentional about the rituals that I have, the supplements

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>that I have, the things that I'm doing, not only

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>because it feels you know, for some it may feel vain.

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, there's like a vanity to it. But

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I am kinder. If I'm sleeping, i am sharper,

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm do you know what I mean?

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Like, we all know you don't want to meet me

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>exhausted and hungry girl. Oh my god. And apologies to

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>anyone that has ever met me in that stage exactly.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm a better human if I'm doing that.

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 2>And I've also you know, taken off the lens of

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 2>like I'm a project and I'm a problem to be solved,

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this is a beautiful experiment to be had,

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I love now figuring out how to optimize and

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>try new things and be intuitive with things. I'm someone

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that is a great experimenter in life. Like you know,

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Ramdas says I'm a spiritual eclectic. I'm like, I'm a

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 2>wellness eclectic. I've tried a lot of things. I experiment

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of things in my work, and it's

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 2>been fun to see what's possible in my body when

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I really care for it, and when I come from

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 2>a place of curiosity instead of condemnation, where before I

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 2>spent all my life like, oh, let's do the Great

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Food Diet and then let's do Weight Watchers, and then

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 2>let's do the cookie diet, and then let's do this

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>diet and then let's starve and let's do the Beyonce

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Master Cleanse. Now I'm like, oh my god, how can

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I love myself more deeply through my rituals and practices,

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>and how can I get curious about what's possible for

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 2>me in life through everything instead of like a punishment,

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, the creativity and the curiosity is absolutely everything.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Best.

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>One of my teachers used to always say, he would say,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>we're a spiritual scientist. Yeah, go out and experiment. You're

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a spiritual scientist.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I think sometimes, you know, it's so

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>easy to think that the work is harder than it

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.720
<v Speaker 1>is in those kind of moments.

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it.

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Really is like an activating of this kind of like

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 1>subtle experimentation and it not being such a big deal

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and letting each moment kind of inform you.

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think too, just to say a lot of

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>the things that I do for optimization, you know, I

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 2>do now because I've created foundations. Yeah, so this is

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 2>very important. You know. When I talk to people about peptides,

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>like which is like a kind of an emerging conversation

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>in the wellness space, I'm like, peptides is cherry on top.

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely not if you are not sleeping, if

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 2>you're not eating well, if your mental health is not well,

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>if you're not doing the basics. Yeah, so I have

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 2>been doing the basics of health and wellness for a

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 2>long time, and that means I'm at the point where

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I can look at optimization. I can look at different

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 2>levers to pull, i can look at what that next

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>level is. But for most people and for me, at

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of my journey, the process was I'm drinking

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 2>more water, I'm getting good sleep, I'm getting sun I'm

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 2>going outside, Like, never forget or underestimate the basics. We

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>all know this in spirituality and mental health. Like basics

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 2>are human connection, good food, sleep, sunlight, like purpose, Like

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.919
<v Speaker 2>that is what I want the most for people, over

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>optimization and all of this stuff, because then it just

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 2>gets into like endless like capitalism, you know, type of thing.

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>But I do love to experiment and try, but I'm

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>always really honing in on the basics for people because

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 2>that is like what is going to change and shift

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 2>their life the most.

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how can someone start to optimize their life right now?

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Like especially I think when it comes to like so

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:54.919
<v Speaker 1>many people, right now you've started the work or you've

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>done the work right like the a lot of the emotion,

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>there's there's space now to like get in the game

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>of your life.

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, so real. I think a lot of people now

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm curious what you're seeing with your community. A

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of my women are like feeling ready. It's like

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 2>they've done a lot of work. They've really looked at

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:14.919
<v Speaker 2>their patterns and their habits, and it's almost like they're

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>ready to get in the game. They're like, I actually

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm ready to put all the things I've

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 2>been learning to practice and I'm really ready to take

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 2>it to the next level. And I think for anyone

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 2>that wants to look at optimizing their life, and when

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>we think about optimization, I really think about bringing conscious

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>awareness and attention to how we're living and more clearly

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>aligning it to how we want to live. Because you know,

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 2>how you're going to optimize is different than how I'm

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 2>going to optimize, Like what are the immediate knows, what

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>are the immediate yeses for things? But I think the

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 2>biggest thing that people can do is really just tracking

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>one of their days or a few of their days,

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>writing down everything. This is when I got up, this

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 2>is what I did, this is what I ate, this

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 2>is how I felt, this is you know the energy

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I experienced at this meeting, Like I didn't eat something

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't like. We need to be aware of

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>how we're moving, and I think so many of us

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>are running so unconsciously that when we get aware, we

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>can actually see the pattern. If you're in relationship, you know,

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I was in a relationship recently and I had this

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 2>beautiful reflection from him where he was like, I noticed

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>that you skip dinner a lot and you just eat desserts.

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 2>And he was reflecting back to me, I love sweets, man,

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Desserts are my thing. And I would just kind of

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.839
<v Speaker 2>like skip out on dinner and I would just eat

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 2>like a big dessert. And I was so grateful for

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>that because I had that conscious awareness and that reflection

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 2>of what I was doing. And although it's not bad

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 2>deep dessert, I love dessert. It's like there's a more optimized,

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 2>optimized experience for me. And So, whether it's you writing

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.839
<v Speaker 2>down or whether it's asking someone you trust in your

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>life to reflect back to you how you show up

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 2>or your patterns that you're in, like, you can really

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>figure out from that place. But the first thing is

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 2>finding a place of honesty and truth. I know, do

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 2>you know what I please? Please?

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I just That is such an excellent

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>point to bring up for people, allowing space for feedback

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and for other people's observation of you, especially when it

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>is delivered like with health right, like it's not delivered

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>with hidden agenda, and that can be the toughest. That

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.359
<v Speaker 1>can be the toughest for all of us. But that

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>is the piece. God, it's crazy. Hold on now that

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that. That is a piece that I think

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>we are reconstituting to, just like everyone is reconstituting to

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>community and learning how to really be in it after

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>being so individualized. We are reconstituting to that ability to

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 1>be seen and witnessed on the day to day, not

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 1>just in your pain or in your success, and then

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>to get feedback on that or to hear some responses

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 1>sometimes and take it and look into it and yeah,

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. What's coming to me now is like there

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>was someone in my life that is no longer in

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>my life, and I as I was even sharing some

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>of it, I don't know what I thought people's responses

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>were gonna be, but I remember your thoughts. I mean

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>your response was like, well, you know, they were like

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 1>when I look at your whole life, and all of

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>your people. They were like a huge sore thumb.

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>You didn't notice that?

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And I literally these things.

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not like the other it's all I want to say.

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the other side of the phone, and my

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>jaws dropped and I go, oh my god. Yeah, And

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>then I was like, why didn't you tell me that?

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Tell me that sooner? But that that kind of relationship

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>of hearing from people that really know you and they're

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>being a safety and a trust that they can pull

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>your card a little bit and turn your eye to

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>something and it could be really important. But it's so

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>easy to shut down. It's so easy to not take

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the time to develop that pathway where you build trust

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>with other people to bring things to your attention. But

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it's really valuable. That's a really valuable part of friendship,

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a friendship, a relationship.

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I've been grateful to have been an experience like with

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 2>that with you, of like deep conversations of feedback and

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>insights and you know, for you to bear witness to

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 2>me in that way. And if you are friends and

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 2>in your community are people that you trust and that

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 2>you love and that you revere, it is a gift

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 2>to receive their site talk that top I have been

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>is a gift, shaped and changed and molded by the

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 2>woman in my life that have seen me, that have

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>known me, that I trust, And I am so grateful

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 2>for the ways that they've seen my truth and seen

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>me clearly. And I think about a few times in

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 2>my life. You know, there was one time a dear

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 2>friend was like Christa, you know, I love you so much,

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and you make it really hard because you're always giving

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>so much. It's almost like you put a wall up.

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's valuable.

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Feeds, very valuable feedback. It was so instrumental to me,

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 2>instrumental in my life of really being in reciprocal relationships.

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize I had been hiding from people. I

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 2>hadn't been opening up, I hadn't been vulnerable. I had

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 2>been always about everyone else. I mean, when you're grow

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>up with narcissists and date narcissists, become good at that. Yeah,

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I know that one well. But hopefully in my prayers

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure you know, my prayers for the audiences

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to have one or two women in their life that

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>they just respect and honor their site and that they

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 2>can get that type of advice envisioning from them because

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 2>it can be so instrumental for your life and your process.

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 2>And when I was in relationship, I was reminded about

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that because I've been single for a few years now

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 2>and being back in relationship, I was like, Dang, I

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>forgot about being seen all the time. I forgot about

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 2>when I'm watching YouTube, you know, during the day, when

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm cleaning and I'm watching like a gossip show, I'm like, Ooh,

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 2>do I like that I do this?

0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:43:58.000 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, do I like that I'm like saying this thing?

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Do I like that I am eating this thing? Do

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I like that? I'm like forgetting you know, you really

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.479
<v Speaker 2>get that mirror and our relationships really help us see

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>ourselves in a beautiful way when our vision is blurry,

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 2>and also for the truth of like where we're short

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>on our potential. And I think you do such a

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 2>beautiful job of that in your friendships and your relationships,

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 2>of like holding people to a higher standard but also

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.879
<v Speaker 2>really seeing them for like the magic that they are.

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 2>You do.

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible that makes you want to cry, you do.

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 2>It's it's the gift of a lifetime.

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I so believe in relationship. I know, you know,

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>like I think, and I think that's why even I

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>love that we're talking about friendship. This is so important.

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's even why. Yeah, we're in that moment

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>of time where we are all I think able to

0:44:55.920 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 1>step back enough and really reorient and say, like how

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>do I want my life to feel? And how big

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of a role do the people in it play? And

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.280
<v Speaker 1>then also in this kind of just non stop busy,

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 1>who and what do I prioritize within that? But it's just, yeah,

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 1>friendship is really important. It matters. We've learned, and now

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, we see infographics of it everywhere. But just

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like the true effect, like a friendship breakup can be

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>so much harder than even a relationship breakup, and we

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>don't treat it with the same level of care and concern.

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think, like check ins are so important giving

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>someone real feedback like you just shared, and I think,

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes we have to give that feedback and

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>risk the relationship too, you know, like be able to

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>share freely how we think and feel and whatever the

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>response is is the information we need that this is

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>the right fit for us, or maybe it isn't. Maybe

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>warm distance is necessary, But like we have a right

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to have stay anderds in friendship, we have a right

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>to reevaluate our agreements with one another. I think when

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I think about us, when I think about our friendship

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and we get in season, I mean, we talk a lot,

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>We be going, baby, and it's just so special. It's

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>just so.

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Free running buddy, Oh, both of our brains they never stop.

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think about like great moments we've been able

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>to have with each other, and like micro repair and

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:36.760
<v Speaker 1>how beneficial that is because you just really don't sometimes

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you just don't know how you're being received, how you know, yeah,

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 1>just where each other is in their own life in

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the midst of that. And we had a conversation recently

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that was so freeing for me.

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, oh my god. Let's break it down,

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 2>can we? Of course, I think it's good to I

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>always want to share examples, like I think in this process,

0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 2>especially when we talk about friendship. You know people women,

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>most women are like I want deep intimate relationship. I

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:06.240
<v Speaker 2>want friends like that. Let's talk about what it takes, Okay,

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>go because it's not easy. So basically, what it happened

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:11.720
<v Speaker 2>to takes a lot of courage.

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Fridge to be like a good friend and to receive

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>good friendship. It really really does, because it is so

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>easy for any of us to slip into a mask,

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.359
<v Speaker 1>to slip into a script, to slip into whatever protocols

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>our bodies are used to running. Yeah, you know when

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:29.280
<v Speaker 1>in conflict.

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the first thing is, like, what we're

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 2>talking about here is for women that are interested in

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 2>real depth and intimacy within friendship and relationship. Maybe you don't.

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 2>You aren't interested in that, and that's your journey and

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.319
<v Speaker 2>that's your testimony. There's a lot of women that want

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to stay surfaced. I'm interested from a spiritual perspective on

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 2>relationships for healing, on relationships for growth, Like I only

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.280
<v Speaker 2>do depth. It's just it's just my current, the current

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 2>that I run, and so recently we.

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Have very beautiful deep wiring like I. It's God, I

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>enjoy your brain and our friendship. I enjoy your brain

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>so much.

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 2>You've made me appreciate my brain more. Oh my god,

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wow, you know that is a glorious Mischake's interesting.

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, what a beautiful gift in life that you

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 2>can have the experience of being like I am. I

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>love and enjoying my little whatever's going on in chair,

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.919
<v Speaker 2>So our little relational repair. So we've had repair before,

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe a few other times. Small, there wasn't

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 2>any big rapter.

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I remember we had a Oh my god. It was

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:31.720
<v Speaker 1>such a good masterclass in friendship. Oh you and I

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and our girlfriend Simone, who has also been on this show,

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>who's an incredible intimacy coach and healer. We went to

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Paris together a few years ago, which is amazing, and

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I remember, yeah, we like the check ins. We approached

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 1>about kind of all three of us staying together for

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the first time in this little apartment.

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 2>And I was post divorced, so I was like, yeah,

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I was in a much tender, more tender period than

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I thought, and kind of realized my sensitivity was a

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 2>little high.

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>It was such a special trip.

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 2>So recently it was you know, I had done a

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 2>comedy show for my birthday. I just love creativity, I

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 2>love expression. I just love it. So I've done it

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>a few years in a row.

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 1>So DeBie, you asked all of us to show up

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>and all dnim.

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Everyone wore done them. Because I'm that I was like,

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I want to do a theme, but I want it

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to be easy, and so I made a joke on

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 2>there about ADHD and my girl has ADHD so bad

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and so severe, so severe, And so my joke was

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 2>just kind of like making a joke about how the

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>popular conversation is about that, and it was just kind

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 2>of like musings on things. Nothing's too intense, but as

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 2>a comedian you kind of like, you know, ride the

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 2>rails and kind of go to the edges of things.

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 2>And so I had made the joke and afterwards I

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, man, I'm just really nervous, because I

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 2>was just nervous how you were going to take it,

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 2>how are you going to metabolize it? And so I

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 2>just kind of kept that fear of that expression and

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 2>the parts of me that I've always been afraid of

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 2>being fully expressed. We're definitely like, oh this is it

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 2>made her mad and you shouldn't express So that was

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of my story. You became that archetype in my

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 2>story of someone that can't be expressed. And so we

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 2>had conversations in between that. But I think the story

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I'd been telling myself was Debbie's mad at you. Well,

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 2>because we had distance, we test you're exactly right. So

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:18.800
<v Speaker 2>we had talked a little bit after the birthday.

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then we had recapped the party.

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 2>And in the distance, I had been telling myself the story,

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 2>but I also had been telling myself the story of safety.

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>And so the story was Debbie's mad at you, She's upset.

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And then I also had the second story of I

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 2>want to be in relationships where space is safe. I

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 2>want to be in relationships where we don't talk all

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the time and it's okay. I want to have connection

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 2>still be there if we're not in constant communication. And

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 2>so that was I understood the loop pattern that I had,

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.240
<v Speaker 2>and I understand where I want to go in my relationships.

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 2>This is old paradigm, this is new. So I had

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 2>this new paradigm wanting of like, I actually want this

0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 2>to be safe. I want this to be okay, even

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 2>if there is a little energy hear between us. I

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 2>want that to be okay. And we still love each

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 2>other and we're still there for each other, and we're

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:08.399
<v Speaker 2>not going anywhere because we can withstand a conversation about this,

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 2>we can withstand a little bit of energy between us

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 2>about this. She can feel how she feels, I can

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 2>feel how I feel. We can still love each other.

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 2>And so when we were talking last week, I just,

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, brought it up to you and you can

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 2>share your experience, and just wanted to clear and understand

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 2>and see if that was true, and give space if

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 2>that was, and give breath if that was, and give

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 2>an understanding that if there was anything that hurt you,

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I take responsibility and I want to understand and I

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 2>want to learn, and I still want to be able

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to express myself, but I want to be there for you.

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>So we had a little micro repair in that moment,

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 2>and you know, those always bring more closeness and those

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 2>always bring more love. And I think the last thing

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll say about them for me, the most important part

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>is I came to you when I was regulated. I

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.319
<v Speaker 2>came to you when I felt clear, and I came

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 2>to you at the truth of I love you, And

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.839
<v Speaker 2>if this did hurt you, I'm available, not hey, I

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 2>think this thing. Is this true? You know, prove to me,

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>otherwise you shouldn't be That it was like, no, there's

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 2>a full reverence of this connection and that this connection

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 2>is worth it for me, and that anything that I

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 2>would say would never have an intention to hurt, and

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 2>that my intention is only for closeness, so how can

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 2>we get there? But it was beautiful, and I mean,

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 2>you're such an amazing You're like repair master, so I'm

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 2>curious about your experience of it. For everyone, it was so.

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Wild for me because it also gave me a chance

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to like confront real kind of traumatic issues I've had

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>in friendship. Yeah, around someone having a narrative that I'm

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 1>upset and I'm not, and like I've had harsh experiences

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>with that and so yeah, so okay, from my standpoint,

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>let's run it back. From my standpoint, I remember, like

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.359
<v Speaker 1>once your party had so much which fun, and then

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>a dynamic of my life. My life is very it

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 1>can be very intense. It's a lot in ways people

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>can never understand because I don't talk about any of

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>this to most people or online.

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 2>But I cease to amazed.

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Girl, I'm like, what this Pluto complex? Yeah? I hold

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot and I have really sometimes bizarre, absurd, tragic,

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 1>insane things that I have to take care of repeatedly.

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'm a single mom and I have ADHD so

0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 1>finn like and I live with chronic pain. So there's

0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot going on right But because of like my natural,

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>outgoing nature and my kind of like grace underfire and enthusiasm.

0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Most people never fathom that, so no one thinks that like,

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:52.399
<v Speaker 1>oh maybe like a lot is happening. It just feels like, oh,

0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 1>she's disappeared or she's you know, well, what's wrong or

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 1>what is she thinking? So I've had that in friendships

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 1>where I've been really close with people and if I

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>get wiped up in a whirlpool of everything I just

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>named for a month or two months and we're not

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 1>on the phone for a couple hours, all of a sudden,

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in their mind they have created that I'm not a

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:17.840
<v Speaker 1>good person, that I've let them down, that such and such,

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I've had experiences of betrayal, only then you know,

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:23.880
<v Speaker 1>for them to later be like, I'm so sorry and

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I just thought you were mad, and so just a

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of emotional immaturity. I've had that experience with emotionally

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 1>immature women before, and that's something that I've healed. So

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>this was an opportunity to be in the healing of that.

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So you had your party. I had so much fun

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>within two days. Literally life changed for me for two months,

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Like it was just a lot we didn't talk in

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.360
<v Speaker 1>that two month span, and we usually I mean we

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 1>meme it up. Yeah, we totally meet you up all

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the times, but we didn't have like our you know,

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:02.360
<v Speaker 1>some of our random check and calls. I also was like,

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and also, I can't because there's not space for that.

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>And one of my fears is that my life can.

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:11.359
<v Speaker 2>Get so.

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Shadowy sometimes that it's too overbearing for most people. So

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 1>my thing was, I'm not going to text you or

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hit you up because any ketchup I have with you

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is going to be sad news or it's going to

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.720
<v Speaker 1>be too much, and I don't want you to feel

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that you have to fix it for me or repair it.

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually want to be able to have like casual

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:37.439
<v Speaker 1>conversations so that I can dissociate from it a little bit.

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.399
<v Speaker 1>So that was going on in my head, and that's

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>where I go with my friendships. It's kind of like,

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>let me just get through this storm and then I'll

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>be back and we can be back to us. And so, yeah,

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 1>we hadn't talked, and so when we were finally getting

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>we finally got on the phone and then you told

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 1>me the story with the ADHD and I was like,

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:00.560
<v Speaker 1>oh girl, I'm so glad you told me this. I

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:03.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't even think about it at all. I was like,

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 1>you made that joke. I thought it was funny because

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:11.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone is everyone is diagnosing themselves with ADHD. But and

0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 1>then I was like the girl also as someone with it.

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard. I'm and I struggle, but yeah, I

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 1>laugh about it too. So it didn't even occur to

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 1>me at all. And then I got to share with

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you just now that are my end. Some of this

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 1>space was just like life is looking a little dark.

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Let me help out all the things I'm doing, and

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:34.320
<v Speaker 1>then I'll pop back up. But if we hadn't talked

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 1>about that, right, that could have easily turned into all

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, two people that ghosted each other for

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 1>no reason, you know what I mean, like crazy, that

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>turn could have happened, and neither of our stories was true.

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think the beauty of it was it was

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:56.920
<v Speaker 1>an easy conversation to have, easy and our foundation was

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 1>so strong and tenured that it's just like, oh, okay,

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.600
<v Speaker 1>we're both silly, so what she doing after the podcast?

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Totally? Yeah, it was such a gift and I'm so

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 2>grateful to have that. I think the clarity that I

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 2>have and I think you have this as well, is

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 2>that there are relationships in my life where even when

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm uncomfortable, I'm like, it's worth it. You know. There's

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:19.840
<v Speaker 2>like there's been times with friends where I'm like, ooh,

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 2>this is They're being hot and cold, they're being inconsistent,

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 2>they've betrayed me. But I think, to my head, but

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 2>this person is worth it to me, and this relationship

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 2>is worth it to me, and that becomes the anchor

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 2>for the way that I move, where I'm like, even

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>if it's uncomfortable, I'm going to go and I'm gonna,

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, be who I am and move how I move,

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>because our relationships and our friendships are like the most

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 2>foundational in our lives. And I think women are having

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 2>this like renaissance with understanding how powerful female friendships are

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 2>because we can see and celebrate how beautiful they are.

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 2>But then we've also been so hurt by women. You know,

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I've been someone that's had so much betrayal in my

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 2>past with women and bullying and had so much pain,

0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 2>but then it also so much beauty, and so it

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 2>makes sense that there's fear and that you want to

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.040
<v Speaker 2>run and that you don't want to have the hard

0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 2>conversations because probably in the past they didn't really work

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 2>out or they didn't really you know, end up leading

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 2>to a better place. But if you guys have both

0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 2>been doing the work in relationship, this is the work,

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Like this is you being in the work, Like this

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 2>is how you practice being the woman that you want

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 2>to be. And I'm so grateful that I have that opportunity,

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 2>like in our conversation, like that is when I'm proud

0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 2>of myself, when I'm like, Okay, I'm honoring the truth

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 2>of what I experienced and the story I'm telling myself.

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving someone this opportunity to be close to me.

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm letting them know how much they love me, and

0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm staying in my body while doing it. I'm staying

0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 2>in my experience while doing it, and then we're becoming

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 2>closer after.

0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the best, the best, the best.

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:53.479
<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I love doing this with you. I know, before we

0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>in the episode, I would love to hear more about

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 1>metamorphosis in any ways that the audience can connect like

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<v Speaker 1>you do gorgeous retreats and really special places all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>What you got coming I do have my True Essence

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<v Speaker 2>retreat in October, so you know, to the female friendship

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<v Speaker 2>wound and healing it. I think I didn't realize, but

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<v Speaker 2>a part of my dharma is bringing women together. And

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the women that come to my retreats

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<v Speaker 2>leave with best friends with like bridesmaids, Like we still

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<v Speaker 2>have all of our group chats going, and the girls

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<v Speaker 2>this week we're sharing a lot of them have babies now,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them are married, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>like we're at each other's like bachelorettes, and they've just

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<v Speaker 2>created this really beautiful community. So at the retreats that

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<v Speaker 2>I host, I want them to be as deep as

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<v Speaker 2>they are, playful and fun, as beautiful as they are,

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<v Speaker 2>like intentional. And we're doing Italy this year for True Essence,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's for women to connect with their souls. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's in Pulia Italy. And then is so good. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I'm so glad.

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<v Speaker 1>You like Silence of all Timeliah, that's so great.

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<v Speaker 2>Like only you literally only people are like great pasta.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like great silence. Literally, you're like you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be basic, you want to be next level. Check out

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<v Speaker 2>the Silence here that is like so iconic. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to you. Oh my god, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>come Pulia. There's just nothing like it.

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<v Speaker 2>That energies about the silence.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh my god, even talking about it right now, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is ridiculous, but like my like my

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<v Speaker 1>chest is opening and like my body is remembering, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. I went to Pulia for this amazing wedding

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Michelle Isaac's. And first of all, Pulia is empty, empty, stunning,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like you are an old, old, spaced out

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<v Speaker 1>Italy where you are you know, yeah, like there's just

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurants are far. You're getting like what you need

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<v Speaker 1>and you're taking in the beauty and that is what

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<v Speaker 1>you know it is, and you're right on. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was the Ionian Sea right there. So one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first days that I meditated, and I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>staying at this hotel and it wasn't like a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and the way you think. It was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fortress kind of out there. And I was in

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<v Speaker 1>a room and nobody was checking in until the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was the only person on there and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>working was there, and there were just fig trees, and

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<v Speaker 1>so all I could do was eat figs all day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so wild. And I went down to like

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<v Speaker 1>this open field area and I sat down and meditate,

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<v Speaker 1>and I, oh god, it was so special. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I closed my eyes and I was kind of settling

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<v Speaker 1>into the position, and I had never experienced quiet that quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was so quiet that it felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>heard like creation itself, Like I heard like the just

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<v Speaker 1>the ambient sound of the present moment, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so rich and deep and like coated. I I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>have all the words to describe it, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a what a gift, rich healing silence.

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<v Speaker 2>How special, girl, I can't wait. Oooh that is just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm teleported to the fig to the fig area. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>go to the figs. And yeah, I think it. Also

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<v Speaker 2>what I love about retreats is it gives women the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to be in the timeline that they really dream of,

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<v Speaker 2>slow life, nature, good food, connection, community, connection to God.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just like, you know, so much of us

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<v Speaker 2>are searching for so much difference in our lives, and

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<v Speaker 2>it really shows us what's possible in that way. So

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<v Speaker 2>I love it as like a new timeline reset and

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<v Speaker 2>then I work with women one on one. I have Metamorphosis,

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<v Speaker 2>which is my body liberation program. It's like a spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>approach to body that I do with women. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>Krista dot Com, it's Krista on Instagram is great spots

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<v Speaker 2>for that. But I'm really honored to have shared space

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<v Speaker 2>with you and be with your community. Like when you

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<v Speaker 2>asked me on again, I was just so grateful because

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<v Speaker 2>I know that they are so smart and intuitive and intelligent.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just I'm really excited to have done here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you so much. We love deeply, well deeply. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got this audience. Oh my god, the way they

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<v Speaker 1>inspire me, and just.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just really just really do the work.

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<v Speaker 1>In the world. Ready to serve. Okay. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of every episode, I asked our guests to give us.

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<v Speaker 2>What we call soul work, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So anything that can help integrate what was heard on

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. It could be a practice, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>a quote, it could be anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the one thing that I'll give as it

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<v Speaker 2>relates to food, is just the invitation to have one

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<v Speaker 2>meal without distractions this week. So just really being with

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<v Speaker 2>your body and the moment and the power of now

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<v Speaker 2>with food. I just really like like the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>someone grew the food, brought the food, Like just being

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<v Speaker 2>with the experience of being with food is a holy

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<v Speaker 2>experience and a very confronting experience for many in itself.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'll see a lot of your patterns, your practices,

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<v Speaker 2>your beliefs just being with food. So that would be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the practices that I would offer. And then

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<v Speaker 2>in friendship and relationships, I think writing down and getting

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<v Speaker 2>very clear with yourself about who those relationships in your

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<v Speaker 2>life are that you trust enough to get advice from,

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<v Speaker 2>that you trust enough to take heed to their site,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is a really beautiful idea, so that you

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<v Speaker 2>can get clear on those people that you're allowing into

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<v Speaker 2>your experience to only sharpen you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. That is quite the exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that recently. It's such a good one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then too, like, when you identify who those people are,

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<v Speaker 1>push yourself, what do you want to ask each of

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<v Speaker 1>them about you? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that takes courage and vulnerability. On your book almost

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<v Speaker 1>thirty is available everywhere. Everything will be leaked below in

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes. But I just I love you so

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<v Speaker 1>much You're such a great friend and just brilliant, brilliant woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I adore you. Thank you so much for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's my dream and honor and to

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<v Speaker 2>sit in your space, I'm like, I love you so,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you so much. Thank you for having me,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you for accepting me and listening to the audience. Bye, guys.

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