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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott and this is

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Speaker 1: Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 2: Welcome the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Coming up today, We've got a lot about Formula one

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Speaker 3: if you care about the racing as well as the event.

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Speaker 3: Plus we're gonna talk about FOD There's a really cool.

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Speaker 2: Bronco thing that Hannah heard about, and.

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Speaker 3: They're scaling back a little bit on their electric vehicle production,

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Speaker 3: so maybe that's an issue that touches the strike and politics. Finally,

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Speaker 3: Hannah actually drove the XM. She's written down her thoughts

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Speaker 3: and she'll tell them to me. I have a much

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Speaker 3: cheaper but I think better alternative in the Dodge Durango

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Speaker 3: Hellcat this week. All right, So Hannah, let's start with

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Speaker 3: Formula one. It's not just about the racing, it's about

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Speaker 3: the circus. And now it's in like a circus, so

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Speaker 3: there could be some real what do you call that

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Speaker 3: when you two things come together and they get multiple synchronicity.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinating to know what it's going to be like

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Speaker 3: when it goes to Las Vegas, which is already off

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Speaker 3: the hook.

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Speaker 1: You're right, it's kind of like it's going to be

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Speaker 1: greater than the sum of its parts, like two plus

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Speaker 1: two equals five. Possibly because like you say, this is

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Speaker 1: the circus capital of the country.

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Speaker 4: It even has a hotel called Circus Circus.

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Speaker 1: And I started getting pitches and notes about this Grand

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Speaker 1: Prix race like in early summer, like May June. So

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Speaker 1: the hype for this has been unparalleled, even higher than

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Speaker 1: that of Miami or Austin.

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Speaker 4: It's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say upfront that you know Max Verstappen has

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Speaker 1: already clinched the title. We already know Red Bull has

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Speaker 1: won the Constructors' championship. So the race, the race, while

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Speaker 1: it still will be exciting, is even sort of more

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Speaker 1: besides the point been usual because we already know how

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas is going to be wild. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: So in terms of like exciting, is formula one?

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Speaker 3: Do you get like amazing outcomes you would never have expected?

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Speaker 3: Is it possible for somebody in like a satellite team

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Speaker 3: Is there a lot of passing? Because when I stopped

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Speaker 3: all of those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna argue with you on that. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: you know, Max Verstappin has won the last sixteen races.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty solid and predictable, and that's wonderful for him,

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Speaker 1: but less exciting for racing fans. Sergio Perez, of course,

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Speaker 1: Is has been doing pretty okay. He's I think number

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Speaker 1: Thank god he's he was unhurt. But to your point,

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Speaker 1: the leaders are the leaders. Lewis Hamilton has actually been

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Speaker 1: kind of putting on a surge. You know, he's the

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Speaker 1: And I think that has a lot to do with

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Speaker 1: it's it's honestly pretty predictable. I think the races still

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Speaker 1: are fun to watch, but American viewers. Honestly, they do

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I would recommend people watch Moto GP,

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Speaker 3: which is, in my opinion, you know, a lot more fun.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot more passing.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot more drama in the actual race

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Speaker 4: But oh, that's shady, that's very shady.

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Speaker 3: It's true though, right, I mean, it's more about the

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Speaker 1: And oh well, I think Total Wolf would disagree with you,

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Speaker 3: Like number one promoter of the soap opera, Toto and

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Speaker 2: What are we going to see around Formula one?

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Speaker 3: Like? Are there going to be people getting like five

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Speaker 2: That's usually the story.

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Speaker 4: There's so much happening.

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Speaker 1: The number one thing I'm actually really excited to see

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Speaker 1: been hearing about. That's a concert space that you two

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Speaker 1: have the spirit. There are other people performing there like

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Speaker 1: for me, I would love to see a concert there.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's gonna be so cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I cannot wait to see the sphere. I don't

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Speaker 3: even care if there's a concert there. I just want

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Speaker 3: I do see. I think it's interesting that Dolan said

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Speaker 3: So interesting stuff. All right, let's get to Ford because

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on surrounding the Big Blue Oval.

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Speaker 1: So this experience that Bronco is opening up to everybody

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 4: It's a good idea for them.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound too expensive to me.

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Speaker 3: then it's much more expensive because you know you're highly

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Speaker 3: And I don't even hate the V six, you know,

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Speaker 3: now it seems like the demand for EV's isn't there,

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Speaker 3: So they're shifting back towards more hybrid vehicles, which I

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Speaker 2: It's almost like vaccine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at some data from Bloomberg Hyperdrive, which

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Speaker 3: So I and that's hard to square with wanting people

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Speaker 1: Of course, and that that was a real sticking point

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Speaker 3: But they're using this as an excuse, like when retailer

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time on forums, you know,

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Speaker 3: Either. Yeah, I know, I agree with all those points.

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Speaker 2: I like it so big because I'm so big, you know.

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Speaker 3: In Westchester, where you could put a dump truck in

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Speaker 3: It's just one sounds cool. It's one more reason that

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Speaker 1: Which I think is a total total misnomer. That to

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Speaker 4: Oh, no, tell you what.

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Speaker 1: No, and I was like, yes, oh that's wonderful.

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Speaker 3: The jeep pulled over to like stop and talk exchange information,

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Speaker 2: But don't worry. I took down his plate number. Anyone needs.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to read it? Read it online or

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Speaker 4: read it out?

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Speaker 3: Just waiting for someone to call back to be a witness. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably enough for the podcast. Right, we

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Speaker 3: can wrap it up. Do you have anything cool coming up?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing tonight. I'm gonna go see

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Speaker 1: seen them. My expectations are not high, and I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, and also been singing that he does is hard. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's not easy on vocal cords, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Black Keys are opening for them, though, so that should

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Speaker 3: I have seen GNR three times, okay, like once a

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Speaker 3: decade for the past thirty years, and I say that

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Speaker 3: the first and the third time we're the best. I think, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Axel like on a good night, He'll impress you, but

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Speaker 3: keep your expectations low so that okay, so that you

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Speaker 4: I will give you a full report.

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Speaker 2: That does it.

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Speaker 3: as well, and I'm on Instagram at Matt Miller nineteen

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Speaker 3: seventy three.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they go on mass radio so to talk to him.

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