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The family of a patient 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: who became pregnant and gave birth while in a coma 25 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: at a nursing facility is speaking out for the first time. 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: They say they're traumatized and shocked by what they call 27 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: the abuse and neglect of their daughter. The twenty nine 28 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: year old woman has been in a vegetative state for 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: more than a decade. She gave birth last month at 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 1: Hacienda Healthcare Facility in Phoenix, Arizona. Police served a warrant 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: yesterday to get DNA from all male employees at the facility. 32 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: A lawyer for the woman's family issued a statement on 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: their behalf, saying, the baby boy has been born into 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: a loving family and he will be well cared for. 35 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Hasienda CEO built him and stepped down yesterday The business 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: as it is committed to doing everything in its power 37 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to bring the police investigation to a quick conclusion, and 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: those DNA tests, the science will find the answer to 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: tell the story that's right. We need an answer to 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: that very disgusting story. You're hearing our friends at CBS 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: this morning. That's John Dickerson Nora O'Donnell and guild King 42 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: describing a horrific situation at Hacienda Healthcare, a sex abuse 43 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: investigation now launched after a young woman who has been 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: in a coma, a permanent vegetative state says she nearly 45 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: drowned ten years ago, gives birth, and a Phoenix healthcare facility, 46 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: specifically the Hacienda health Care. So you leave your loved 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: one for around the clock care. That loved one in 48 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: a vegetative state, in a coma. They're there for ten years. 49 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: You visit, you move them around so they don't get 50 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: bad sores. You comb their here, you wash their here, 51 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: you take care of them day in, day out. Suddenly 52 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: she gives birth. I don't understand that at all. Joining 53 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: me an all star panel, renowned lawyer Brian Claypool, joining 54 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: US doctor Brian Russell, psychologist and lawyer, host of investigation Discoveries, 55 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: hit series Fatal Vows, Stephen Lampley, Crack detective Kathleen Murphy, 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Fill me a divorce lawyer and joining me right now. 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter John Limley. Let's start 58 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: at the beginning. First of all, John, how could the 59 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: staff not notice she was pregnant until she gave birth. 60 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: But hold on, I'm jumping the gun. Start at the beginning, 61 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: John Limley. Getting it information Nancy about this case is 62 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: a challenge because investigators from now multiple agencies are saying 63 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: next to nothing about the case. But we do know 64 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: that at some point last spring or summer, someone sexually 65 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: assaulted this woman who is in a persistent vegetative state 66 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: or a coma, and she became pregnant. Sources tell us 67 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: that the alleged victim had been a patient at the 68 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Hassienda Healthcare facility for fourteen years. This was after a 69 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: near drowning incident left her in this coma. The woman 70 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: gave birth to a baby boy December twenty ninth, And 71 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, what's baffling is no one on 72 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: the staff say they were aware she was pregnant until 73 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: she was simply giving birth. Exactly staff at the Hassienda 74 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: Healthcare claim they've been giving her around the claw care. 75 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: Her state is the result of an incident where she 76 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: nearly drowned ten years ago. Take a listen to this 77 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Phoenix police revealing a disturbing new detail in an already 78 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: horrifying case. A baby born to a female patient living 79 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: in a vegetative state for years at this facility had coded, 80 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: meaning his life was in danger. He and the incapacitated 81 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: mother whisked away to a hospital. Investigators finally addressing the 82 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: public moments ago, after days of silence. This woman was 83 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: unable to move, she was unable to communicate. In other words, 84 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: she was helpless. Police have obtained search warrants to get 85 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: DNA samples from male staffers at the medical facilities, hoping 86 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: to find who may have sexually assaulted the woman who 87 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: has been in a vegetative state for more than a decade. 88 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: You are hearing our friends Sya Sidner and she's speaking 89 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: with Sergeant Tommy Thompson in the Phoenix Police Department. He 90 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: describing the woman as completely helpless. Joining me now, Brian 91 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: Claypool involved in the case. Brian way In, Yeah, he Nancy, 92 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: what a shocking story. In my opinion, this is rape. 93 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: This this young lady was in a vegislative state and 94 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: if she had she had a baby, so she was 95 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: unable to consent to sexual relations. So that constitutes rape. 96 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: So law enforcement needs to to to, you know, expedite 97 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: the investigation, get DNA samples from every single male worker 98 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: that was in that facility, not only male workers, but 99 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: any visitors that were given access to the facility nine 100 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: or ten months ago when the baby was conceived. You know, 101 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to take in how this may have happened. 102 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer out of North Carolina. All those 103 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: nights when a lot of the staff are gone, everything's dark, 104 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: everything's quiet. Someone walking around giving patients their medication, someone 105 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: with access to this woman. I find it difficult to 106 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: believe it was a visitor. And I'll tell you why 107 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: this had to be someone they could go in. Most 108 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: likely in non visitation hours, not the normal hours of 109 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: visitation they would want to do. They want to commit 110 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: an assault on this woman in a coma for ten years, 111 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: when not many people were around, when they wouldn't be noticed. 112 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: That makes me think it was in non visitation hours. Huancy. 113 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: And what's really tragic about this whole situation is they 114 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: report that she felt the delivery, that she felt the 115 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: pain of labor because she was moaning. And my heart 116 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: is broken for that family here that their daughter, whom 117 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: they clearly love, was in pain and she couldn't be helped, 118 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: and she wasn't helped until she suffered an incredible amount 119 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: of pain and probably wasn't able to really understand herself 120 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: wherever she is what was happening. And if she did 121 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: understand and she knew she was having a baby, how 122 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: bad would that be? Well? I wonder if she knew 123 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: that she was being assaulted, And I wonder how many 124 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: times she was assaulted and they gaven think about it. 125 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: You think she was assaulted one time and she just 126 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: happened to get pregnant that one time. I find that 127 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: very difficult to believe. So how many times had this 128 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: poor woman, this young woman in a vegetative state, been 129 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: assaulted over and over and over? Did she have any 130 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: idea that this was happening to her? And what, if anything, 131 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: does this mean to all the other patients there at 132 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: Hacienda Healthcare. Listen, a lot of people are men. My 133 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: family included parents of other patients inside Hacienda Healthcare are 134 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: furious and demanding answers. My heart hurts, my chest hurts. 135 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to sleep good at night because 136 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: of what occurred here. Their concern for the safety of 137 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: their loved ones after a female patient who's been in 138 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: a vegetative state for fourteen years, gave birth. A source 139 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: tells KPHO she delivered a healthy baby boy on December 140 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty nine, but none of the staff inside the clinic 141 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: knew the patient was pregnant until she began moaning shortly 142 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: before going into labor. Our detectives are working eligently to 143 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: try to identify suspect. We have served search warrants. The 144 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: purpose of the search warrants based upon probable causes to 145 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: obtain records that will help us go through the process 146 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: of identifying a suspect. Those again, we're done under the 147 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: authority of a search warrant issued by spirit court judge. 148 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: In addition, we have obtained buckle swabs. That's Bucca L. 149 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: Buckle swabs are used to obtain DNA, which is going 150 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: to be one of the key evidentiary factors will use 151 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: in investigating this and bringing it to a closure. Those 152 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: are based upon reasonable cause. I hope I haven't given 153 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: you too much information on that, But again, this is 154 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: an investigation. If you are thinking this will be a 155 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: short term investigation, let me assure you that this is 156 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: a long term investigation. But the Phoenix Police department, which 157 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: I've been a member of for thirty five years, have 158 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: proven time and time again their abilities to carry out 159 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: complex investigations, and I have confidence in them at this time. 160 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: But let me just tell you that this could be 161 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: a very long investigation. When you heard about the news 162 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: of what happened here, everybody was up in shock. Corinas 163 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: has seen his twenty two year old daughter, Jasmine, has 164 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: been a patient at Hascienda Healthcare for about two years now. 165 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: Karina's not leaving her side. You're staying here twenty four 166 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: seven because you still don't trust. No trust has been 167 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: broken and severed completely. While privacy laws limit video surveillance 168 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: in healthcare centers, says Sina says, there needs to be 169 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: more cameras. Are there any cameras that you see right 170 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: now in the facility? None? Not in the hallway, No, 171 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: not in the room, on the nurses station, Nope. Nothing. 172 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: You're hearing our friend Omar Via Franco speaking with Corina Cesena, 173 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: the mother of another patient there at Hacienda, who says 174 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: she's not leaving her daughter twenty four to seven, three 175 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: sixty five. Forget it, She's staying there. I want to 176 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: go to doctor Brian Russell's psychologist and a lawyer, host 177 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: of IDAs fatal vows and what kind of mind of 178 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: a perpetrator would repeatedly sex assault a vegetative patient. Yeah, 179 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: it's a special kind of low to when you think 180 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: about somebody who would take advantage of somebody, it's hard 181 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: to imagine anybody more completely helpless than this victim. And 182 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: I agree with you it wasn't just one time, because 183 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: the statistical chances of a pregnancy happening from just one 184 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: time or low. And so you know, I have been 185 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: as a psychologist and an attorney. I have been involved 186 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: in malpractice cases against individual healthcare providers and facilities as 187 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: on both the plaintiff side and the defense side, and 188 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: I would not want to have to make the defense 189 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: case on this one because this should have been impossible. 190 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: This should have been impossible if the standards of care 191 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: we're anywhere close to being met in this facility. Wants 192 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: to take a listen to Jane Nancy. Yeah, this criminal 193 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: investigation needs to be expanded based on your discussion. If 194 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: there were multiple sexual assaults of this victim, the CEO 195 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: should be investigated for reckless endangerment, criminal negligence and other 196 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: executives in Hacienda should be also subject to criminal prosecution 197 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: if there's evidence of neglect in any prior sexual assault. 198 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: So law enforcement needs to expand the investigation. And the 199 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: fact that she was moaning as well when she had 200 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: the baby. That also triggers a civil lawsuit for this 201 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: young lady as well for the pain and suffering that 202 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: she went through. Man, you're not kidding. Take a listen 203 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: to that point exactly. Kphotvs. Brianna Whitney listened. After nearly 204 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: three decades of leading Hacienda Healthcare CEO, Bill Timmins resigning 205 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: amidst the investigation into how at twenty nine year old 206 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Native American woman living in a year's long vegetative state 207 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: was impregnated at the facility with no one saying anything. 208 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: We've now learned she was raped several times. My heart stopped. 209 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: I think my heart stopped when I heard the news 210 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: from my daughter. I was just horrified. I'm going no, 211 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: not Hacienda. This woman worked in a management position at 212 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Hacienda for over a decade and says she will never 213 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: forget what Bill tim And said in a closed door 214 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: meeting with the leadership team. What did you witness in 215 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. Oh, we had a manager's meeting and 216 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: it was brought up that there had been an incident. 217 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: She says. Female nurses were standing around a nonverbal male 218 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: patient's bed, talking inappropriately about his genitalia. The poor guy 219 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: was just laying there. He couldn't communicate, he couldn't say anything, 220 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: he couldn't defend himself. And we were talking about reporting 221 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: it to CPS, and Bill Timmins slammed his fist on 222 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: the table and said, no, no one is going to 223 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: report this. What did you think when you said that? 224 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: I was horrified. By law, we are supposed to report 225 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: things like that. Are you scared? I was scared. Timmins 226 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: had a temper and we knew not to mess with 227 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: that temper because people got fired. I saw people disappear 228 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: and never come back. Wow, you're hearing our friend at KPHOTV, 229 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: Brianna Whitney, speaking to someone who wishes to remain anonymous, 230 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: who worked at Hacienda. Take a listen to this. This 231 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: woman worked in a management position at Hacienda for over 232 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: a decade and believes other abuse has gone on throughout 233 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: the years. But a woman impregnated with nobody speaking up 234 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: while Timmins was CEO. She says, that is inexcusable. But 235 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: do you think in some way Bill Timmins is at 236 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: fault here for what happened. I think he let things happen, 237 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: didn't do anything about it, didn't let people do their job. Yeah, 238 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: I kind of do you are hearing kphotvs. Brianna Whitney 239 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: speaking to a woman who wishes to remain anonymous, who 240 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: was in a management position at Hacienda for over a decade. 241 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: You know, is it a criminal case? I say absolutely, 242 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: it is a criminal case. Here's CNN Sara Sidner listen. 243 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Attorney Brian Claypole says the criminal exposure in this case 244 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: is very clear. If the woman in Phoenix was in 245 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: a vegetative state and she gave birth to a child, 246 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: then she was raped because she could not have consented 247 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: to a sexual relation. Karina Cesseda says she and other 248 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: parents with children in this facility are stunned and scared. 249 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Cessana's twenty two year old daughter is living here with 250 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: severe your brain damage. She is extremely vulnerable. She cannot 251 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: walk and can barely talk. We were just so scared 252 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: because who knows what would happen if it was a 253 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: staff member who was a family member, if it was 254 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: a stranger, we have no idea. What did you decide 255 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: to do personally to make sure your daughter who's inside 256 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: is safe. I stay here twenty four seven now to 257 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: make sure that she's in a safe environment as well, 258 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: and just move forward because trust has been severely broken. 259 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: That's Sarah Signor speaking with Brian Claypool who was with 260 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: us right now. Brian Claypool elaborate, Yeah, Nancy, this case 261 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: is about the me too movement meeting mental health. I mean, 262 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: can you imagine being a family member of a patient 263 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: in that facility. You have to be doing a twenty 264 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: four hour vigil watching your relative in that facility. I mean, 265 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: this is a public hazard, a public safety risk. I 266 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: think the state or account should also be putting as 267 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: security guards in that facility till they can get to 268 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: the bottom of this. I mean, I think from pop 269 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: to bottom, this nursing home needs to be cleansed. Their 270 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: prior incidents of sexual harassment, possible alleged sexual abuse. This 271 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: facility had a much below average rating. It was a 272 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: train wreck waiting to happen, and Hedge need to tumble 273 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: John Lily joining me investigative reporter with crime online dot Com. 274 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: What can you tell me about a twenty thirteen investigation? Nancy? 275 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: It was in December of that year, twenty thirteen, that 276 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona Department of Health Services conducted an investigation after 277 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: a formal complaint was made. The report was investigating staff 278 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: treatment of clients. What's at the center of this very case. 279 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: The Arizona Department of Health Services determined Hacienda was not 280 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: in compliance due to staff treatment of clients and staff 281 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: training program. The facility after this had to submit evidence 282 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: of compliance or they would have been terminated from the 283 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: Medicare program. So that's a twenty thirteen allegation. Take a 284 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: listen to cbss omar Via Franco, a federal database that 285 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: tracks nursing homes, reveals hassien To Healthcare has an overall 286 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: rating of one out of five stars. According to state records, 287 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: a staff member was fired in twenty thirteen after making 288 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: inappropriate sexual comments about patients. Hassi Into Healthcare declined our 289 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: request for an interview, but in a statement says it's 290 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: cooperating with law enforcement and conducting a comprehensive internal review. 291 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: Of processes, protocols, and people to ensure that every single 292 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: resident is safe. 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They also revealed the baby 315 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: is a boy who has been born into a loving 316 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: family and will be well cared for the same Carlos 317 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: Apatchee tribe said the woman is a twenty nine year 318 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: old registered member of their tribe. Cessanas says the healthcare 319 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: company didn't even inform the families about the incident until 320 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: five days after the birth, and only after local news 321 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: reports expose the situation. I think that there's an underlying 322 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: blanket somewhere that they're trying to hide under. You know, 323 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: instead of being transparent, they're not being very transparent at all. 324 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: You're hearing our friend at seeing an Siah signer are 325 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: talking with the mother of a hacienda patient, Corina Sesina, 326 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: and she's absolutely right, you know. John Limley, Crime Online 327 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: investigative reporter. I did not realize that hassien To Healthcare 328 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: did not tell the victim's family she had been pregnant 329 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: and gave birth, and they only came to their attention 330 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: when they heard the woman moaning and crying there she 331 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: is an acoma giving birth. That any pain medication, any anesthesia, nothing. 332 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: They don't tell her family she's had a baby until 333 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: five days later after they're busted by the media. John Limley, Nancy, 334 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: that is correct. They learned so many of the details 335 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: in this case, just like the rest of us did 336 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: on TV. Healthcare send the statement that police had served 337 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: as search warrant for the samples DNA samples from male 338 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: staff members, and they go quote, as a company, we 339 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: welcome this development, the ongoing police investigation. Welcome this development. 340 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: My rear end they should be quaking in their boots. 341 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: Explain to me what is happening, Brian Claypool, defense lawyer. 342 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: Police are seeking DNA samples from all male staff members 343 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: at Hussy into Healthcare there in Arizona. They're going to 344 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: have to date that back to the time when she 345 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: would have gotten pregnant. You know, I don't know if 346 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: the baby was premature. I have no idea about that. 347 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: You have to determine that through a neo natal specialist. 348 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: But they can't be just who's there today. It's got 349 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: to be who was there at the time that the 350 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: baby was conceived. Yeah, Nancy, a good point. And this 351 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: isn't brain surgery. I mean, the pool of potential suspects 352 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: in this case have got to be very small. The 353 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: law enforcement should beginning answer very soon. You go back, 354 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: what about nine months maybe ten months from the date 355 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: the baby was born, that there should have been a 356 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: search warrant served on the facility for the identity of 357 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: all male workers at Hacienda and order. I believe they've 358 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: been ordered to give a DNA chromosomal test and law 359 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: enforcement should be able to pinpoint who the father is. 360 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: But one more quick point answer. You guys made another 361 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: great point. The fact that five days went by and 362 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: notifying the family that now triggers a potential multimillion dollar 363 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: civil lawsuit by the parents. The parents of the victim 364 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: now have an intentional infliction of emotional distress claim against 365 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: that facility, and they could seek millions of dollars now 366 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: impunitive damages. And they better hope that baby is completely 367 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: healthy because he was delivered with no medical help. Nothing 368 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: at all happened right there and Hacienda Healthcare, they had 369 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: no idea, according to them, that she was pregnant. But 370 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: I disagree with you on one thing, and that is 371 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: this out to you, Steve Lampley, Ace Detective Stephen. I 372 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: don't think it's just the male employees that work at 373 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: HASSI into Healthcare. I think you've got to look at 374 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical reps that may have come in and out, at 375 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: worker men they came in to fix the air conditioner 376 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: or the heat, or make repairs, or fix the windows 377 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: or cut the grass. You got to look at visitors. 378 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: How are they going to reconstruct every visitor that came 379 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: in without any cameras in the halls. You've got to 380 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: look at doctors that visited those patients, at visitors to 381 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: every other patient and HASSI into Healthcare. How do I 382 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: know it wasn't a visitor that frequently visited his dear 383 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: old grandma two halls over. I don't know who it 384 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: is to Stephen Lampley, how are you going to do this? Well? Man? 385 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: So you start what they're doing. They're starting with the employee. 386 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: That's that's you start. And it's like a homicide investigation 387 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: where you start with the family. You start there and 388 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: then you broaden. If you don't have any luck there, 389 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: you broaden your circle out to the next level. If 390 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: you don't have luck there, and you keep expanding your horizons, 391 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: so they're starting where they need to be starting, which 392 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: is with the staff, the mail staff, and then you 393 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: go from there. If you have no luck there, then 394 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: you go to the next step beyond that, which might 395 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: be visitors, doctors, or something that are coming in on 396 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: an infrequent basis other than those who are working a 397 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: regular shift. There. You know, to John Limley, investigative reporter, 398 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 1: this birth and a sex assault of a vulnerable woman. 399 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: And of course we're hearing this is not the first 400 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: time she was assaulted as she lay there in her 401 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: bed in a vegetative state. It does really asked Hassi 402 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: into healthcare in a bad light. And it isn't Hascienda 403 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: an alleged nonprofit organization that claims it's a leading provider 404 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: of healthcare for Phoenix. What about it? Who is Hassi 405 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: into healthcare? Hascienda has actually been around for over five decades, 406 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: fifty two years. Not impressed. I'm not impressed. I'll say 407 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: it like it's a good thing. That means to me. 408 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Women have been being raped there for fifty two years. 409 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned Limley and their core clients 410 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: are actually infants, children, and young adults. A lot of 411 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: people when they hear about a healthcare facility like this, 412 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: assume that most of the patients there are elderly. This 413 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: is not the case with this one. This includes young 414 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: adults who are medically fragile, chronically ill, some of those 415 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: with developmental disabilities. The organization right there. Wait a minute, 416 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, Brian Claypool. As a defense lawyer, you've been 417 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: in criminal law, you have dealt with so many predators. 418 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: This is a predator's dream. You've got all of these children, 419 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: all of these young adults physically and or mentally fragile 420 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: or in need of help, developmentally disabled. They can be 421 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: taken advantage of and nobody will ever know what they're saying, 422 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: what they're suffering, Nobody would ever believe them. It is 423 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: a predator's hunting ground. Yeah. Answer. You raised an exceptional point. 424 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: This was a playground for predators. And what I mean 425 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: by that is that there should have been escalated security 426 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: and internal controls at Hacienda to safeguard the patients because 427 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: they are a not only younger, but be most important, 428 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: they are are unable to articulate, they are unable to 429 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: defend themselves. All the more reason for more security surveillance 430 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: cameras in the facility and and for vigilant supervision of 431 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: the employees. That this is just a horrible situation. We 432 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: know that Hassiana Healthcare has forty programs that touch the 433 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: lives of two thousand, five hundred people a year, nearly 434 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: three thousand people a year in Arizona. How many of 435 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: them have been victims. So as part of this investigation, police, 436 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: you're going to have to look for other victims. Who 437 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: else within hassiant To Healthcare has been raped. Adult Protective 438 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: Services tells us after hearing the allegations, they immediately dispatched 439 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: a team to conduct health and safety checks on all 440 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: members living in the facility, and the Arizona Department of 441 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: Health says they are actively working with local law enforcement 442 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: in their criminal investigation. But right now, no suspects have 443 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: been named, and our source says this patient required round 444 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: the clock care and many would have had access to 445 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: her room. So those patients suck quite a few people 446 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: in just a day right time. Yeah, So there could 447 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: be a lot of possibilities as to who did this. 448 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: She also says the facility has changed protocol this week. 449 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: I was told that as of now the amal soph 450 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: means to enter her a female room, that they need 451 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: to bring in a female employee with them and as 452 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: far as you're a wearing, that is a new policy. Yes, 453 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: so many questions as to how something like this could 454 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: have happened, but our source says this woman was raped 455 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: in the most vulnerable state, so she had no way 456 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: to defend herself in this sort of situation, none whatsoever, 457 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: and not even able to communicate the fo she was pregnant. 458 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: You were hearing from our friend Brianna Whitney, a KPHO 459 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: TV speaking with a woman who wants to remain anonymous. 460 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: You could hear her voice had been distorted to protect 461 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: who she is. Now, you know, that's interesting that the 462 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: employees are afraid for their names or their to be known, 463 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: or their faces to be shown, to the extent that 464 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: this woman wanted her voice even distorted so no one 465 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: could tell it was her. And I find it really 466 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: hard to believe to Brian Claypool, veteran defense attorney joining 467 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: us OUDE of LA, that anybody did anything immediately because 468 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: Hassi into healthcare kepital secret for five days. They didn't 469 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: even tell the family until the news busted them. So 470 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: when they're talking about they rushed in immediately and did this, 471 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: and they did that bs, they didn't even know nobody 472 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: knew about it. When they say this woman, this young 473 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: girl role had round the clock care, well I don't 474 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: think so, because somebody had time to get in there 475 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: over and over and over and rape her. Well, Nancy, 476 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: what's compelling is the fact that you have an employee 477 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: that wants her voice distorted. That tells me that this 478 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: was a culture of sexual abuse and sexual harassment and intimidation. 479 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: There was permeating hacienda that if you work there and 480 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: you tried to speak up and report. I've seen it 481 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: in a lot of sexual abuse cases I prosecuted in 482 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: the civil form, where employees try to report sexual harassment 483 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: and sexual abuse and they are intimidated and bullied, and 484 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: that that propels or facilitates all of this sexual abuse happening. 485 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: And that's why that employee wants her voice distorted. That 486 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: is really tragic. But again, the fact that this facility 487 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 1: doesn't tell the family about the baby being born for 488 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 1: five days is reprehensible and in conscious disregard for not 489 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: only the victim but also the family, and that that 490 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: is going to place this facility at risk of paing 491 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: millions of dollars compunitive damages. I don't give a flying 492 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: fig about them paying damages. I care about this. We're 493 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: talking about how are we going to prove it? About 494 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: DNA tests, about multimillion dollars lawsuits. Think about this. Think 495 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: about lying there in a hospital bed, day in, day out. 496 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you can hear what's going on, maybe you can 497 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: see what's going on, but you can't speak or move. 498 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: Ten years, you lay there like that, ten years and 499 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: over and over and over. At night, when the lights 500 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: turned off and people leave the health care facility, someone 501 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: comes in your room and rapes you, and you can't 502 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: do a thing. How long did she lay there in pain, 503 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: in pain, going in to labor suffering. How did they 504 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: not know she was pregnant? How did that little fact 505 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: that she gave birth to a full term baby boy 506 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: escape everyone who was caring for her, Who was changing 507 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: her sheets? Who? Who? Why? And imagine her family living 508 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: with the guilt that they put her in hacienda. It's 509 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: just it's just overwhelming. And when the boy grows up 510 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: and he learns what happened to his mother, it's it's 511 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: just over whelming. Take a listen to our friend Brianna Whitney, 512 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: a KPH what happened inside the Hacienda Skilled Nursing Facility 513 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: in Phoenix. A woman who has been in a vegetative 514 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: state at the facility for at least fourteen years after 515 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: a year drowning incident, giving birth to a baby Saturday. 516 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: But nobody knows who did this to her. When you 517 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: first heard about what happened, what went through your mind? 518 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: How could it happen? And just anger and sadness sake. 519 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: This woman, familiar with what happened, has asked us to 520 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: conceal her identity and voice. She says employees could not 521 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: believe what was unfolding inside the victim's room, and the 522 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: staff were aware that she was pregnant until she was 523 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: pretty much giving birth. How were they alerted to the 524 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: fact that she was going into labor. From what I've 525 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: been told, she was moaning and they didn't know what 526 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: was wrong with her. There was a nurse that was there, 527 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: and from what I heard, she's the one that delivered 528 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: the baby. What do we know about the baby? From 529 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: what I know, the baby is alive, the baby is healthy. 530 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: Let me advise anyone listening that to assault a vulnerable 531 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: person or a person in her condition is a felony. 532 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: To John Limley, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, what 533 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: do we know about her medical history? Like, for instance, 534 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: when was the last time she was examined? The patient, 535 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: Nancy is at a maximum level of care, unable to speak. 536 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: As we've heard so, the mother, her legal guardian has 537 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: received annual reports about the patient's condition. Records from the 538 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: care facility showed that the patient had been examined on 539 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: April sixteenth of twenty eighteen, that's eight months before she 540 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: gave birth, and no surprise, the report showed no indication 541 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: of pregnancy and very interestingly, I guess ominous. Now that 542 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: we know all that we know, the doctor recommended in 543 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: the report that the facility continue its current care. I'm 544 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: just trying to take in everything that we are learning now. 545 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: Right now, we know that at this moment, we believe 546 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: the little boy is healthy. We don't know how the 547 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: victim is. We don't know what is being done to 548 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: determine who the purpose right now, the search is on. 549 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: Decrypting DNA will now be the primary goal of Phoenix 550 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: Police Department as they work around the clot to id 551 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: the person who impregnated a comatose woman there at Hacienda Healthcare. 552 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: How will they do it? Most likely from DNA taken 553 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: from the mother and the little boy by a buckle swab, 554 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: which is a cheek swab. We wait for justice to unfold. 555 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: If you have information regarding Hassien to healthcare investigation, please 556 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 1: dial six zero two two six two six one four 557 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: one six zero two two six two six one four 558 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: one or for eight zero witness for a zero witness. 559 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: That's for a zero nine four eight six three seven seven. 560 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime story signing off goodbye friend,