Speaker 1: This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at
Speaker 1: production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut
Speaker 1: to it. Good do it, Good do it. That's getting
Speaker 1: down to do it. Good do it. We asked the
Speaker 1: questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,
Speaker 1: let's cut to it. You ain't heard him about it,
Speaker 1: then we're about to let you know. It's all well, Steve,
Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from. I like the yeah,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? I'm doing great? Man, And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here thinking there was an incident. Man, this was
Speaker 1: a few years ago. Yeah, with your football camp. What
Speaker 1: about your last football camp that you did? Hear in Charlotte, right,
Speaker 1: wasn't my last second of last one? One up? I
Speaker 1: know it was a few years ago. Um, you gotta
Speaker 1: tell it though, but just in terms of startin beverage
Speaker 1: and happened with some of the kids, it's just a
Speaker 1: funny story, man. So so I used to do football
Speaker 1: camps here in Charlotte, and then also, uh, you're here
Speaker 1: too as we go down. Um, I've done football camps
Speaker 1: um on military basis as well. I've done it, and
Speaker 1: um Cam Humphreys, which is overseas. Cam Humphreys is actually
Speaker 1: uh several miles away from the d militarized Zone near
Speaker 1: South Korea, right, So i've I've been in Hawaiian, Frankfurt, Germany,
Speaker 1: so i've i've I've had the honor to serve the
Speaker 1: military's kids all over. But so I do I But
Speaker 1: I always had a camp for about nine almost ten
Speaker 1: years here in Charlotte that I was doing, and so
Speaker 1: we had a lot of different sponsors that would come
Speaker 1: on board. And so one of our sponsors, UH for
Speaker 1: the for our camp was Sunny Dlight. Now, if anybody
Speaker 1: has ever been in the South beverage sponsor, so, if
Speaker 1: anybody's been in the south of North Carolina in July,
Speaker 1: is hot as fish grease. And when I say fish grease,
Speaker 1: you can put them till I drop that top in
Speaker 1: there and that grease is gonna be all over. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so we're out there and it's probably ninety five degrees
Speaker 1: with UH humidity, so it's equivalent to about a hundred
Speaker 1: in two degrees hot. You're so hot on the pavement
Speaker 1: you can see the heat, the heat rising on the
Speaker 1: just going on the top of the asphalt. So we're
Speaker 1: out here about two plus kids. And so we have
Speaker 1: a water break, not a regular water break. We have
Speaker 1: a sunny D. We're providing sunny light to the children.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you what happened. Was sunny D man.
Speaker 1: Sunny D was sniper and these kids left and right.
Speaker 1: Why because sunny D is not real orange juice. So
Speaker 1: it's not sunny D has less. I think it has
Speaker 1: ten percent orange juice, the orange drink the ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the other juice. It's stuff. And it's not a
Speaker 1: drink or juice. It's it's a drink. And we all
Speaker 1: know what happens when you drink too much drink. That
Speaker 1: he got to bubbling. These kids would they weren't passing out,
Speaker 1: you know how they were losing in the football camp.
Speaker 1: We were losing the kids by vomit. These kids, these
Speaker 1: kids were running routes and just falling out. We had
Speaker 1: about twenty kids that just when stopped. Now you gotta
Speaker 1: imagine when the kids stopped because you got bubble guts.
Speaker 1: I think I got it. I don't feel so well,
Speaker 1: I don't feel so good. I made an executive decision
Speaker 1: no more Sunday. And I love the financial commitment. I
Speaker 1: love the product. Kids out here hurting, but we got
Speaker 1: to get this Sunday out of here just for everybody.
Speaker 1: They weren't padded. It's just shorts of shorts, right, It's
Speaker 1: just touch. It's not full contact. That I don't believe
Speaker 1: having full contact. The way you introduced kids on plane
Speaker 1: is you don't. You let them gradually acclimate to getting hit,
Speaker 1: but you don't. You don't teach a little kid how
Speaker 1: to catch a football when he knows that the next
Speaker 1: little kickly is playing middle linebacker on the field. It's
Speaker 1: really hard to keep up what's on the ball when
Speaker 1: you're about to get your ribs broken. Right, And Bro,
Speaker 1: we were losing kids. I'm talking about so that literally
Speaker 1: the next day, two day, two day cam, three day camp.
Speaker 1: We literally the next day, I said, Bro, we took
Speaker 1: all the d because it was not it was not
Speaker 1: providing the hydration. Dog day was dying. We was losing
Speaker 1: kids left and around. I mean we had we lost twenty,
Speaker 1: like twenty kids just did not show up the next
Speaker 1: day like Sunny d took out. You know what they
Speaker 1: talked about all the turf monster real it was awful over.
Speaker 1: The sad part is, you know I gotta drink the product.
Speaker 1: I don't drinking that product. I start, you know, start
Speaker 1: you too, and I don't starting you hit this. That's
Speaker 1: the litt It was hurt. Sunny D athletics and running
Speaker 1: around not not the best comba listen, sunny D bet
Speaker 1: not ever whatever ever ever show athletic sport and drinking
Speaker 1: after quenchy your thirsty was a sunny D. It would
Speaker 1: be your last sport. So that that's the sunny D story.
Speaker 1: But man, tell his day, Bro, it was bad. My son,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, dadda. When I saw Kevin, I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I gotta stop drinking a Sunday because
Speaker 1: it was free. So they gave us case case like
Speaker 1: we were giving it was like two hundred fifty kids.
Speaker 1: Each kid got two Sunnyds to take on. We had
Speaker 1: like four hundred sunny D's, but we dumped them. We
Speaker 1: had to dump the product because it was killing the kids.
Speaker 1: It was killing. That'd be, like I hate to say,
Speaker 1: that'd be like giving kids Mexican food to go play sports. Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: can you imagine you drop that point this? Bro? Can
Speaker 1: you imagine running a post route after eating a babe
Speaker 1: though I don't really want to know. That's probably you
Speaker 1: made that. It's gonna be the last. Don't let that
Speaker 1: quarterback leads you into a messy situation. You needed, but
Speaker 1: you needed a black nickname anyway. Now your name Scooter.
Speaker 1: It's always a black school. Hey, how you guys doing.
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior here and g um welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1: When my Spanish is russy, so I don't know, is
Speaker 1: that right when it's started, if it's afternoon, when it's not?
Speaker 1: Just it's because you know I was a little bi lingual.
Speaker 1: You ain't botty ling anyway. We got our booking manager
Speaker 1: on here, Joe Fushi, nicknames Scooter aka Backstage Joe. He
Speaker 1: was backstage, but we brought him. We brought him to
Speaker 1: the limelights. So Joe's Joe's want of homeboys and good dude,
Speaker 1: very talented is this man? Yeah, makes a lot of
Speaker 1: this happen. I'll tell you what his ass is, not
Speaker 1: that he is not a good communicator on this subject
Speaker 1: at hand. So we were talking this weekend, and Joe
Speaker 1: has a boat, and Joe loves to go on this boat. Now,
Speaker 1: Joe loves to play golf with Smitty, but Smithy ain't
Speaker 1: as good as Joe. But Smitty got the membership and
Speaker 1: Joe got the boat. So it's a nice boat. And
Speaker 1: so Joe loves being on the boat, and his beautiful
Speaker 1: wife Kim says, look, if you get the boats, you
Speaker 1: can't have a country cutp membership. So Joe's you know,
Speaker 1: Joe's my golf and buddy. I love hanging out with him.
Speaker 1: Great dude. Business as well helps me a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: So me and Joe chilling, and I know, so I
Speaker 1: get some shoes, uh do some yard work, and so
Speaker 1: they have these cool like boots but their waterproof and
Speaker 1: so I can hold them down and not get my
Speaker 1: socks well, and I hate wet socks. Like that is
Speaker 1: like like I'm like two things like yard that y'all
Speaker 1: work that I hate wet socks and picking up dog poop.
Speaker 1: But I got a dog, so I pick up dog poops.
Speaker 1: So the only thing I can really get away with
Speaker 1: is not having wet socks. So I say, man, these
Speaker 1: these shoes. And then I discovered that this these boots,
Speaker 1: they also make both shoes. So I'm gonna read your text.
Speaker 1: Good morning Joe, quick question, what shoe size are you morning, Steve?
Speaker 1: I am a ten and a half two eleven and
Speaker 1: a half, so we gave you range depends on the style.
Speaker 1: So at this time, Joe did not know I am
Speaker 1: trying to order these shoes as I am texting him.
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, you just need one size? Yes,
Speaker 1: So I said, all right, let me gather up something
Speaker 1: that we can all identify with generally Nike's depending on
Speaker 1: Nike's run small. So I said, what sizes are you
Speaker 1: and Jordan's? And here's where it gets interested, Scooter, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go? What what he goes? I said, what size?
Speaker 1: And I even s z in Jordan's. So now I'm
Speaker 1: meant to like cutting into like a specifics. What's it?
Speaker 1: I got the laptop up, It got two pair of
Speaker 1: sizes left. I want to get my boys some some
Speaker 1: some boat shoes. All right, I wear eleven and the
Speaker 1: eleven half if I tighten them up. Now, so I
Speaker 1: go back up and I said, first of all, he's
Speaker 1: a ten and a half to eleven and a half,
Speaker 1: and now he's an eleven. But if I tighten them up,
Speaker 1: eleven and a half. So there is I don't ever
Speaker 1: want to see. Here is my reply. Here's my reply.
Speaker 1: What blankety blank size are you? Bro? I don't want
Speaker 1: the hood size when you can't afford to pass up
Speaker 1: what they're giving you, grown ass man, you're wing you
Speaker 1: walking into a true store to get a pair of Vans.
Speaker 1: What size can I get you? Sir? Joe reply is
Speaker 1: you can get me size eleven? I said, not in
Speaker 1: between sizes. I've looked that up. There is no slides
Speaker 1: between ten and a half and eleven and a half,
Speaker 1: and there's definitely no size for eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: When I tightened them up, He's like, damn, why are
Speaker 1: you on me so bad? I said, we read your replies?
Speaker 1: See why dot I died this whole time. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to order you a pair of shoes and I gotta
Speaker 1: read this. Can I jump in here? First school? First off,
Speaker 1: yours tied tight right now? No, they are not tied.
Speaker 1: And guess what shoes he's wearing currently right now? Vans?
Speaker 1: Thank you? So, I really don't have an excuse for this.
Speaker 1: I really really thought I was being good friend Joe,
Speaker 1: because you know, like when somebody's gonna help. I felt
Speaker 1: the vibe somebody was getting me something you know how
Speaker 1: you want it, like you get that gift from an aunt,
Speaker 1: and like it's a sweater with a V neck, and
Speaker 1: like you don't want to act like you don't. And
Speaker 1: I know Steve knows me well enough to know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be nice. So I'm just trying to be open guy.
Speaker 1: And then I go back and read, and I was thoroughly,
Speaker 1: thoroughly embarrassed. I was stuttering if you can do that
Speaker 1: in text? Says, how are you studying a text message?
Speaker 1: I was giving nine eleven sizes, like he said, I
Speaker 1: felt like growing up when your big friend gives you
Speaker 1: them old shoes. Man, I put four pair of socks
Speaker 1: on as long as I can get him, and they fit,
Speaker 1: So you're grown ass, man. Why are you tightening up?
Speaker 1: Don't ever see you tightening up? I said, what size?
Speaker 1: Are you between? Ten and a half and he left
Speaker 1: ten and a half is a size three sizes? No
Speaker 1: ten point seven five. Even if you're even if you're
Speaker 1: your right, you still have to buy two different pairs
Speaker 1: of shoes to discover which he tried to give you
Speaker 1: a damn fitted hat size, and it's a shoe, I said,
Speaker 1: re read what you're saying I did, and I apologized,
Speaker 1: and I'm thankful for the gift I'm received. I didn't
Speaker 1: even wanted the shoes because I was so irritated you
Speaker 1: didn't even get all of this. I was irritating up
Speaker 1: in order, well not in order, because the whole time
Speaker 1: I'm going through this batch, like what's what size do
Speaker 1: you wear? Man? This is like eight thirty in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I was getting Saturday ripped Sunday Sunday.
Speaker 1: I was ripped a part for like this one. I'm
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes and it's all my fault. It's one
Speaker 1: I take ownership, my fault. It's COVID. But the best
Speaker 1: part about it is when I finally got it down,
Speaker 1: I'm eleven. We did all of this, that's your size.
Speaker 1: Just cut to it, bro, That's all you had to do.
Speaker 1: We have to take a break and the morning thing,
Speaker 1: we gotta pay some bills. You got checks. I love
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Speaker 1: it going. Bro's going good? You know, it's going real good.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited um for the day because we got
Speaker 1: a really cool guest. But then also, you know just
Speaker 1: how the stars aligned. Man was out playing golf the
Speaker 1: other day. Tell me abody, right, So we're playing golf
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm pretty I wouldn't go on the tour
Speaker 1: and say I'm a pretty good golfer because I'm not. Um.
Speaker 1: But I can if I hit the bar, if I
Speaker 1: get moving, yeah, if I if I get if I
Speaker 1: get my making contact, if I get my driver on
Speaker 1: it and go I get hit about two big range.
Speaker 1: I just smack it, but I gotta slice. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get rid of so bang I hit that thing
Speaker 1: about it goes about to fifty. Of course, I'm playing
Speaker 1: that the eighteen and nine is real narrow, so they're
Speaker 1: they're playing right next to each other. Boom, So I
Speaker 1: veer right. I gotta slice feers right. So I'm probably
Speaker 1: a huney yards from the green. I'm just on the
Speaker 1: other whole. I'm on the ninth hole. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: when that happens. So I got a honey yards to
Speaker 1: the green, ninth on the ninth hole, on the right
Speaker 1: next to him. So I played with um. I don't
Speaker 1: like playing with the standard white ball because I struggle
Speaker 1: to see to find it this early morning, I don't
Speaker 1: care if his afternoon. I'm on the struggle bus. So
Speaker 1: I played. I played with a lot of different color balls,
Speaker 1: and so I played with a red one, which is
Speaker 1: red as my favorite color. So I'm playing it. Hit it.
Speaker 1: So it's on the other one and playing with my
Speaker 1: boy Joe, and so I'm like, Joe said, I got
Speaker 1: you all right, So I'm going over park. I'm going
Speaker 1: over there as a gentleman on the nice hole as well.
Speaker 1: But I'm on eighteen, so I'm interfair in his game.
Speaker 1: So I take my time and I make sure I
Speaker 1: can go after he hits and I'm looking for this
Speaker 1: red ball on this green, green fairway so it's not
Speaker 1: hard to miss, and I'm like, where's my ball? So
Speaker 1: I go over and then this guy's looking at me
Speaker 1: very in my mind, I'm going, damn, he's gonna wanta
Speaker 1: gotta do this whole. I recognized that as you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I've had guys approached me. Hey, man, you sign
Speaker 1: my golf ball whatever, right, So I'm going on there
Speaker 1: and I'm like oh, and he's so he as he's going,
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, did you hit a red ball? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you hit the red ball? Oh? No? No, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay. He was like, oh, is this your ball? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So he found it. No, he didn't find my ball.
Speaker 1: This song Ago takes my ball. Oh, he stole it.
Speaker 1: He stole He picked my ball up. He said, red ball.
Speaker 1: He looked up and said no. He said, Lord, thank
Speaker 1: you for this red callaway ball that you've given me
Speaker 1: that I have not hit that that I did not purchase,
Speaker 1: but I'll take it. Right, takes the ball, puts it
Speaker 1: in his bag. So when I approach him, I said, yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: you got my ball. He is now looking at me
Speaker 1: as if I'm going to beat him up, and I'm
Speaker 1: still probably about thirty yards away from So we're like
Speaker 1: having this loud talking this in conversation. He put his
Speaker 1: ball in his bag and he's staring at me pulling
Speaker 1: my ball out of his bag. So he's caught. He's
Speaker 1: caught still in my ball, red handed with the red ball. Yes,
Speaker 1: and so he goes, hey, did you hit the red ball?
Speaker 1: So my reply to it, what did you did? You
Speaker 1: not play with the red ball? Well, here's what makes
Speaker 1: it even classier. They don't have later take my boys
Speaker 1: to play golf. They want to hit the driving range. Dawn,
Speaker 1: you played without this the other day. Can you all right?
Speaker 1: Let's go pull up? So I got deuced six years old,
Speaker 1: I got Boston years old. Pull up, We part. I
Speaker 1: get out of my car. Guess who is putting his
Speaker 1: bag into his trump red ball thief? Yes. He looks
Speaker 1: at me sticky fingers, and I just giggle. He goes, hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing? I said, take any balls like me?
Speaker 1: He looked at me, got in his car and Doocey goes,
Speaker 1: is that the guy who took your balls? I said, yep,
Speaker 1: that is him. He goes, he better drive off. Because
Speaker 1: this story has never been told, let's go what's on
Speaker 1: your mind? What's on your mentor? So what's all my
Speaker 1: mental is? We usually don't. We usually don't. We usually
Speaker 1: do evergreen. But this is gonna be stapled with we're
Speaker 1: gonna marry this with a panther. So we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with a Carolina Panther insider Juicy Moose and Smitty, Uh conversation,
Speaker 1: So a conversation when you and Musi mohammed, yeah, pull it.
Speaker 1: You're pulling this out. The archives is in the crates.
Speaker 1: This is actually I'll say this start off. Moose is
Speaker 1: like my big brother. We were super competitive, uber uber competitive.
Speaker 1: But there were times where I got on moose nerves
Speaker 1: and Moose got on my nerves. As as what happens
Speaker 1: in brotherhoods. So my rookie wasn't my rookie year, my
Speaker 1: second year one of my years. Uh. Actually Moose didn't
Speaker 1: know it. But Moose kind of made me who I was,
Speaker 1: who who I am today? And high Win is UM
Speaker 1: coach Richard Williamson was He was always tough on me,
Speaker 1: always tough and um one day. Uh and his wife, Norma,
Speaker 1: I loved them, love her she you know, speak to her.
Speaker 1: I never can say anything negative towards Richard. He always
Speaker 1: pushed me to places that I didn't want to go,
Speaker 1: and that's the sign of a great coach. But on
Speaker 1: this day, Richard was the offensive coordinator. Mike McCoy was
Speaker 1: the wide receiver's coach. Mike McCoy was the head coach
Speaker 1: of the same save um offense coordinator for Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: when UH coach McDaniels became head coach, and then he
Speaker 1: became the head coach at San Diego Chargers and now
Speaker 1: he's just at the house chilling. So one day, um so,
Speaker 1: this was my rookiere one day running the wrong routes,
Speaker 1: old West Coast offense. I came from a number system
Speaker 1: out of college, and Richard Williamson grabbed me and kind
Speaker 1: of like talked down to me. He was a coach,
Speaker 1: but he talked down to me and told me how
Speaker 1: he felt about me that day. That day, he didn't
Speaker 1: feel really good about me, and he kind of grabbed
Speaker 1: me and it rubbed me the wrong way. And when
Speaker 1: he grabbed me, you know, uh, I want to say
Speaker 1: I blanked out, but I was getting close to grabbing him,
Speaker 1: and Mike kind of like stepped in between us and
Speaker 1: you know, and Richard was cussing and I said a
Speaker 1: few choice worst as well. Um, I know, big surprise,
Speaker 1: and um but Moose did something that just kind of
Speaker 1: got to me. And Moose said, man, you're from Cali.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be one of them Cali dudes. You
Speaker 1: like that old man do that to you, And Moose
Speaker 1: just poured it on. So my mom is one of thirteen,
Speaker 1: and I have an uncle named Tim who's maybe six
Speaker 1: or eight years older than me, but he's like my
Speaker 1: big brother. Um. He actually he got kicked out of
Speaker 1: the house from my grandfather, UM, my grandpa Alfred. He
Speaker 1: actually when I was in when I was young, he
Speaker 1: actually lived. He was my roommate, no, and when he
Speaker 1: was going to high school. And so he's like ten
Speaker 1: years older than me. So I was like a first
Speaker 1: or second grade and I'm rooming with a dude that's
Speaker 1: a senior in high school. Super odd, right, But you know,
Speaker 1: that's just how it is a close family. And why
Speaker 1: is uncle Tim coming into the picture. Well, Moose hit
Speaker 1: me with that, and I just hit it didn't sit
Speaker 1: well with me, and I took my time coming home
Speaker 1: and I remember parking in the driveway and I called him.
Speaker 1: I attacked them and I called him. I actually chirped
Speaker 1: him because and so he called me. He's like, what's up?
Speaker 1: And I told him what happened? And I told him
Speaker 1: how moose and kind of like you know how he
Speaker 1: played this, played up the situation in a in a
Speaker 1: on the field in the locker room, and I just
Speaker 1: remember crying and I was really emotional about it. And
Speaker 1: my uncle said, well, you know, Steven, um, this isn't Steven.
Speaker 1: I know, first of all, why are you crying like this?
Speaker 1: And I explained it to him and he was like, well,
Speaker 1: you still haven't told me why you're crying like this,
Speaker 1: because that's not to Steven. I know, this is not
Speaker 1: the Calie. It's not to It's not the family member,
Speaker 1: the kid that I know. And his response really challenged me.
Speaker 1: He was he was not empathetic sympathetic one bit. But
Speaker 1: what was really cool is I remember he said, so
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do about it? I was like,
Speaker 1: what you mean? He said, what the funk are you
Speaker 1: gonna do about it? And I remember I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, all right? He said, no, I want
Speaker 1: you to tell me and I said, well, he's like,
Speaker 1: the best thing you can do to get back at
Speaker 1: Moose is what I don't like. You know, you're all emotional.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was I asked, you know, He's like, no,
Speaker 1: what can you do? From that day forward, Moose challenge
Speaker 1: and ignited me to the point of and again I
Speaker 1: say this, really, I have a great relationship with Moose,
Speaker 1: but what Moose doesn't on the standards, Moose created me
Speaker 1: because when I got off, when I got off the phone,
Speaker 1: the things that I said to my uncle is which
Speaker 1: I lived every day, which is my goal was to
Speaker 1: remove Moose off every category in the wire receivers record
Speaker 1: books for the Carolina Panthers. My goal was to when
Speaker 1: they say Carolina Panthers wire receiver, Moosie Mohammed's name is
Speaker 1: not to be mentioned. And from that day forward, whatever
Speaker 1: Moose did, my goal was to do it better. If
Speaker 1: he called one pass one one hand, I want to
Speaker 1: catch ten. If he called two first downs, I want
Speaker 1: to catch twenty. If he finished with twenty yards of yak,
Speaker 1: I wanted to catch with forty. Every single day from
Speaker 1: that day forward, my goal was to remove Moose from
Speaker 1: the record books and there's only gonna be one name mine.
Speaker 1: Every single day for four or five years, it didn't matter,
Speaker 1: smiled at him. I loved him. Still still a colleague,
Speaker 1: right still. But my goal was to remove him from
Speaker 1: the record books. And the crazy part is because at
Speaker 1: that moment he challenged me and didn't know it, and
Speaker 1: he invented me and every day after that. Because when
Speaker 1: I first came out, I was seven in college, so
Speaker 1: I wanted eighty seven and I asked him. He was like,
Speaker 1: go see someone. Well, I mean, I didn't know any better,
Speaker 1: but you know, also, all you can do is tell
Speaker 1: me no. So I was like, all right, cool, And
Speaker 1: so what's crazy is you know, no, nobody really knows that.
Speaker 1: The one person that really knows it. And he told
Speaker 1: me he never he said, never tell him that story.
Speaker 1: Mr Richter told me Moose did not. Don't ever tell
Speaker 1: Moose that he created you. So he didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: Now he doesn't even know that. He probably because you
Speaker 1: know that they'll probably run it. But the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is that's the reason why it went so hard.
Speaker 1: That's why I never really got along with anybody. My
Speaker 1: goal was seeking destroy, remove, eradicate. That's what happened. I
Speaker 1: was saying, that's what you did, that's what I did.
Speaker 1: Not respect Moose, Love Moose, but from a competitive from
Speaker 1: a competitive standpoint, competitive standpoint, you didn't have a chance.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy and a lot of people don't know that. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a follow up to that. You nailed it. No,
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to say to that? The crazy part? Now?
Speaker 1: And here's that He's gon like, fuck No, I mean,
Speaker 1: but you gotta respect it. You gotta respect it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was cool because my uncle tell me, he
Speaker 1: challenged me, He said, what do you do? But both
Speaker 1: dudes did? Right? Yeah, but he he challenged me. I
Speaker 1: guess my uncle challenged me because I knew the relationship
Speaker 1: me and Moose plays golf and with all that stuff.
Speaker 1: At some point probably here here this is a hill,
Speaker 1: be like, so if I wouldn't have did, Thanks Moose,
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Appreciate you, Moose, Thank you, Mata. You are
Speaker 1: a unique person. You are well worth it, You are competent,
Speaker 1: and most of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith singor
Speaker 1: I'm Gerard little John and this is cut to it,
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