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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Addie and Samantha. I welcome stuff on

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Speaker 1: Never Told You Protective. iHeart Radio and today is November fourteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I had to think about it, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, we've got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about our game plan of how we're

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Speaker 1: gonna deal with the fallout of the election episode wise

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Speaker 1: here on the show, especially with the holidays coming up.

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Speaker 1: So if things feel a little uneven, please just bear

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Speaker 1: with us. We are people to yeah, which speaking of

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Speaker 1: I was just curious about this because we are I

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Speaker 1: mean content warning. We are talking about the election a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but not really. We're mostly talking about why

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Speaker 1: do you cry when people like ask if you're okay?

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Speaker 1: And to I guess I was telling Samantha, I can

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Speaker 1: always tell what I wrote an outline and I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about something very specific and maybe having some emotions

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Speaker 1: did this one. But it's so it's not some kind

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Speaker 1: have to Sometimes I'm worried people who know me listen

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Speaker 1: to this and think I'm like talking directly to them,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not. And I feel like a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: The argument can be has been used about this, especially

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Speaker 1: after an election, especially after Trump wins an election, that oh,

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Speaker 1: you're all being snowflakes, even though I would argue it's

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Speaker 1: the other side, perhaps the biggest snowflakes who can't handle

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Speaker 1: election results withou violence. But anyway, I think it makes

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Speaker 1: sense that you when people ask if you're okay, you cry,

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Speaker 1: And that was something that I was when I was

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Speaker 1: election I noticed it a lot where I'd be like, wow, today,

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Speaker 1: You've gone a whole day without crying, and that someone

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Speaker 1: So I've always been this way, I've just noticed it

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Speaker 1: I'm tired, Fine, I'm tired. Oh no. But there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why this might be. One is

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Speaker 1: I have talked about this before, Samantha, but sometimes we

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Speaker 1: have given honest answers to that question when it's clear

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Speaker 1: But sometimes I've done that without even meaning to do it,

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Speaker 1: and that led to our mini series on trauma and

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Speaker 2: Well should we do that one again?

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Speaker 1: Oh? As a list, like as a playlist? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like who We're back? Yep. There's also another reason

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Speaker 1: But I was also thinking, like I'm I'm afraid what

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Speaker 1: I did find something when I was researching this called

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Speaker 1: highly sensitive people or HSPs. According to some sources, one

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Speaker 1: Yeah. God, Anyway, again we laugh because we're said, this

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Speaker 2: Right and also like your solution right now is isolation,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got my solution, and some of them are

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Speaker 1: better than others. But you're a monica. Yeah, there you go.

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