1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 2: Hi friend, Hi, how are you? 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm good? 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: How are you? 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm so good? So nice to finally. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Meet you, I know, virtually meet you. 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I feel like I'm living a 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: teenage dream right now. 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: Why cool? 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Because I grew up watching you on TV. So it's 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: like it's really cool for it to come full circle 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: and get to actually meet you. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That's so hard for me to this 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: day to still like I'm like nervous interviewing you, and 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: You're like, I up watching you. I'm like, I don't know. 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: It's such a weird business. We're all in i know, 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: so connected and disconnected all the same time. 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: It's literally like we all have the invisible string theory 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: going on. Wait what is that? So it's like I 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: don't know how to explain it. It's like you're destined 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: to meet this person because you have an invisible string 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: tied to them. So it's like, no matter how your 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: life has rounded out, it always comes down to that 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: moment when you finally get to meet them, that you 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: were just destined to meet them. So it's like an 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: invisible string theory. 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: Oh I believe in I believe in No, I believe 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: in signs, and lately like signs are like popping out 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: in my life, so I guess I. 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Would be part of it. Yeah, yeah, that's it's. 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: But do you believe you can alter those invisible strings? 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: I think. I think what's destined is destined to be, 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: and if you are in the right places at the 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: right time, it's just going to happen, whether you can 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: control it or not. I think there's certain things that 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: you could probably control, Like if you can see your 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: life was heading a certain trajectory and you're like, maybe 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to go that way, then yeah, you 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: can definitely pivot, and because I mean, we have free will, 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: you know. So. But I do think the invisible string 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: theory is like we're just we don't know. We didn't 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: know that we were going to be on this phone 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: call one day, you know, but it was already written 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: in the stars and that it was going to happen 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: one day. So I think that that's kind of like serendipitous. 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: I guess she could. 47 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: Say, definitely, who are two other people that are part 48 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: of your invisible string universe that you have not known? 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: Joyce Myers because I've already well, it was Dolly Parton, 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: but I actually got to sit down and interview her. 51 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: I never met her. 52 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: I would love too. How have you never met Dolly? 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: You gotta meet her. She's awesome. 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: I want to go to Dolly World, though, do it. 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: It's a freaking panic attack waiting to happen. 57 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: I was, and I don't want to go to Dolley World. 58 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many people, just so many people. So 59 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: it's like it depends on what time of the year 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: you go. It's a super cute park, don't get me wrong, 61 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: but if you go when it's like around October or 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: any of the holidays, don't do that because there's so 63 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: many people there. It's overwhelming, understood. Like Disneyland, Yes, exactly, 64 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: exactly like Disneyland. So I was Dolly Parton. I love 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Joyce Myers too, but I don't know if she'll ever 66 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: be in my orbit. We'll see. And what do you 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: mean she's already there? I know, I know, I know. 68 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to come on the podcast bad, but I 69 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: feel like we have like I'm so outspoken in certain 70 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: things and like my my upbringing, and she's kind of 71 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: like old school, you know, reverend type. So I don't 72 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: know if we would ever be able to sit down. 73 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: But and then I guess my other one would be 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: like Howard Stern, but I get to meet him on 75 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday because I'm want to be on his show. So 76 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: for your book tour, yes, baby. 77 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my gosh, congratulations on your book comes out 78 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: February seventeenth. 79 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Correct, yes, yes it does. 80 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: Did you plan that timing? Moore around Valentine's Day? 81 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: So it was originally supposed to come out like a 82 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: year ago, but we had it just it wasn't meant. 83 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't ready a year ago for it to come out, 84 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: so we pushed to February tenth is when it was 85 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: going to drop. And I remember I said that, I 86 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: was like, right around Valentine's I was just happy that 87 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: the book was going to be an Aquarius. So I 88 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it is it Aquarius? I was like, 89 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: that's fine. 90 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: But we have to think of these things now. 91 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But then I love that it got pushed 92 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: to February seventeenth because that's the day that the Year 93 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: of the Horse starts. You're right, yes, So it's like 94 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm literally like everything that I had baggage and just 95 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: bored into this book is getting left behind in the 96 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: Ear of the Snake and we're just moving forward. So 97 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: I feel like everything just worked out like how I 98 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: was supposed to. 99 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: And we're talking about your memoirs, stripped down, unfiltered and unapologetic. 100 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, that is you. 101 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: I know you're of the Snake. Was it was it 102 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: hard for you? 103 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: It was? It was definitely a learning curve for me. 104 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't How was it for you? 105 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: Was it not good? R? 106 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, I'm sorry. 107 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: And then any but anytime you would say something to someone, 108 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh, it's you're the snake, that's whine 109 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, cool what. 110 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: You're like, oh I do? And that helps me? 111 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: All yeah, yeah, but Year of the Horse, it's the 112 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: wild horse. 113 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: M yeah, I thought it was the fire horse, Fire 114 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: the Worse. Sorry, no, no, I could be wrong. I 115 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: have me and me looking at your No, I need 116 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: I need to look it up because I need to 117 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: know for sure too. But I'm all for any sort 118 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: of forward trajectory and leaving the Year of the Snake behind. 119 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: So whatever horse it is, if I can yallop on 120 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: out of here? Baby? Is it the fire Horse? Yeah, 121 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: it's the fire Horse? Yeah? Perfect, Yeah, definitely. 122 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: So how long did it take you to write the book? 123 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: I started this book in twenty nineteen, but I didn't 124 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: have the happy ending, you know, and and I don't 125 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: really think I have the happy ending still, you guys 126 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: will see that in the book. But I had so 127 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: much more life to live, so it just again wasn't 128 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: the right time. So I kind of just left kept 129 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: it as like a journal. And then whenever my agent, 130 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Sloan came to me, she was like, hey, do you 131 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: want to write a book? And I was like, well, 132 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: funny you say that, I've been writing one since twenty nineteen, 133 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: and She's like, no way. So I sent her the 134 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: pages and she was like, oh, this is great, and 135 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: then it just all snowballed from there and we just 136 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: started writing the book and it's taken a good two 137 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: years to really get everything. I actually put so much 138 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: into the book that they had to take a lot 139 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: out too, so there might be a part two. But 140 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: my ghostwriter who I had with work with me. She's amazing. 141 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: She did such a great job. She hands me the script, 142 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: the book. She hands me the book and I read it, 143 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I can't put this out into 144 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: the world. It doesn't sound like me. So I literally 145 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: rewrote the entire book on my freaking phone in the 146 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: notes pad for two weeks straight. I was like that 147 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: it has to be authentically me. I was like, I 148 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: can't put something out into the universe that doesn't sound 149 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: like me. And I feel like my following knows me 150 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: so well that they would know that it wasn't me. 151 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. Now, everyone has such personal contact 152 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: with everybody that it has to be in your voice. Yeah, 153 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: they know I read your captions, like I know we're 154 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: on social she doesn't speak like that. It's interesting because 155 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: all my books I had a ghostwriter for them as well, 156 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: And it's interesting that people are like, oh, you have 157 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: a ghostwriter, and it's like, no, it's someone that formats 158 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: basically like we're we're the creatives. I'm like, but I 159 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: had no idea like chapter one, like to put it 160 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: all into the form. 161 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: No. Thank god for them, because I've been able to 162 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: stay on track as my add I would have been 163 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: all over the place. So really, essentially, a ghost writer 164 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: isn't writing your story for you. They're writing it with you, 165 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: and they're keeping you on track and teaching you how 166 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: to kind of keep things separated and integrated and all 167 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: that stuff. 168 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: It was an interesting process for me, and tell me 169 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: about it how it was with you. For me, it 170 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: was like a therapy session. We would get together because 171 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: and then she'd be like, and then one and then 172 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: it would unlock these memories. They'd be like, oh my gosh, 173 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: and then this story happened. And then as your life evolves, 174 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: the book's still not out yet. So did you find 175 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: you had to keep shifting things because your life was 176 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: just happening? 177 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean you're living life. Life doesn't stop for anybody, right, 178 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: And then it's like your book is literally a snapshot 179 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: of past life and when you decide to end it, 180 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: and it was super cathartic for me. Did you ever 181 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: get emotional and like have to like stop writing for 182 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: a couple of like days or something because I would 183 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: write like a chapter and I would just be so 184 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: overwhelmed and I'd be like, I don't want to look 185 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: at it for like at least three or four days. 186 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: I need to just kind of like zone out to 187 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: be able to get back into. 188 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: It for me. I mean, you say the same thing, 189 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: that your life's an open book. 190 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Like I felt that way too. 191 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: When it was time to finally release it. I just 192 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: couldn't stop releasing it. 193 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: That's so good though. I love that for you. 194 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. So now it's like, I feel like, do 195 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: you feel like you're polarizing? 196 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Do people think that we define polarizing? 197 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: I know, well, I like to redefine what the dictionary 198 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: thinks of things? 199 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you consider polarizing? 200 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: But I'm not I'm not for everyone. 201 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: But that's okay, right right right. I have imposter syndrome, 202 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: so half the time I look around and I'm like, 203 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: what am we doing here? Like you know, like my 204 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: husband says that I'm like a racehorse that has blinders on, 205 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: and he's like, you don't care what's around you or 206 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: what outside noise is affecting a situation. He's like, you 207 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: are just literally I on the prize. As soon as 208 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: you hit that goal, it's to the next one. He's like, 209 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: you don't even give yourself time to breathe. So I 210 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm polarizing. I think people are just like, 211 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: what the hell is going to come out of her mouth. Now, 212 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, they don't ever know what I'm gonna say. 213 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: So, I mean you talked about Howard Stern. That's what 214 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: made him right. 215 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, are good. 216 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: They can't wait to see what he's going to say next. 217 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: So there you know exactly, Especially nineties Howard. Nineties Howard 218 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: was amazing. That's when I knew him. 219 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, did you get to meet him and 220 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: go sad? 221 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: I did his show and that was the first time 222 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: for me. Kind of back in the nineties, it wasn't 223 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: like it is now. People don't know the real persona 224 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: of actors or celebrities, So going on Howard Stern, they 225 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: were like, everything's off the table. It wasn't like going 226 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: on like Jay Leno at the time, or like coating 227 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: O'Brien or it was like you have to go on 228 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: and be prepared. He could ask anything and everything. 229 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: I love that. 230 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, and walking through those doors, you know, he. 231 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: Was all sex talk. Oh. 232 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: I remember being like a nineteen year old girl or 233 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: twenty year old girl and my publicist being like, no, 234 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: what do you say? 235 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, But the thing is is like everybody knew that's 236 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: what Howard does. So your public isn't even putting you 237 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: on that show. You have to kind of look at 238 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: them side. I like, wait, what do you mean? 239 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: I mean it made me learn at a young age 240 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: that it's like, wait, this isn't a bad thing to 241 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: have no barrier with the consumer, with your fans, with people. 242 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: It was I think at that point people needed to 243 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: see that side of you, because you were a Donna 244 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: on nine O two and oh, and you had this, 245 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, had one perception of you on TV, and 246 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: then you know, there was you that was off of TV, 247 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and I think that it was probably good for people 248 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: to get to see at least a different side of you. 249 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: Definitely, oh my gosh, you could have been Donna in 250 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: high school? 251 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, no way. I was more of what 252 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: would I have Who would I have been on nine 253 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: O two and oh? 254 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 2: I was never really a Brenda slash Donna. 255 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I don't know who I would 256 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: have been for nine O two and oh. I was 257 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: like the I was like the R rated sister of Donna. 258 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: There we go, how about that? Oh I like that? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 259 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, if nine O two and oh 260 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: was made today, like it's euphoria. It's euphoria. 261 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: It's literally euphoria. Like that's that's exactly euphoria is kids 262 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: these days nine O two and oh, except it's nowhere 263 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: near how like classy and put together nine O two 264 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: one O was? You know, euphoria is kind of like 265 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: why old and dark and you know, but it's like 266 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: that's what kids these days need to stay engaged. That's 267 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: how crazy are youth is now? 268 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: I know, I know, and my kids started with euphoria, 269 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: but now like that's even too slow for them. They 270 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: want it quicker, like they kids sit through a whole episode. 271 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: It's a microwave era. I say that about everything is 272 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: like everybody wants it right now. They want it and 273 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, ten seconds or less. I was just telling her, 274 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: you cannot. Your brain is not capable of handling twenty 275 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: different things in half of a minute. You know, when 276 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: you're scrolling, you see twenty different scenarios of life, and 277 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: brains were not meant to process that. We were supposed 278 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: to sit in nature and watch butterflies land on our knees, 279 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: you know. Like so the fact that these kids are 280 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: being raised by phones and having to you know, everything 281 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: has to be so fast all the time. 282 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: It's disheartening for sure, But I feel like our brain 283 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: is at our and you're younger than me, but are 284 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: adapting to that and it's out of our comfort zone. 285 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: But our brains are switching to it but not processing 286 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: it as well. 287 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: Right, But I mean, I don't know if anybody can 288 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: process it well if you think about it, because it's 289 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: like it's it's rough. There's time. Like even yesterday I 290 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: said a prayer. I was like, Lord, let me put 291 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: my phone down today because we've been going through hell 292 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: since my husband's grammy speech. And I was like, Lord, 293 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: let me have peace enough to put my phone down 294 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: today so I don't keep getting sucked into the vortex. 295 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: And I did, and I literally took a break from 296 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: my phone and it felt great. And I haven't even 297 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: picked up my phone again today. So it's like it 298 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: will consume you if you let it. 299 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And obviously you guys are in the 300 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: news daily and it's do you get sucked into that 301 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: rabbit hole like reading comments and doing all. 302 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: That sometimes, But mine comes from a spirit of protection 303 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: and like I say what you want about me, I 304 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: do not care, Like I literally am bulletproof. When it 305 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: comes people talking about me, talk about my family, it 306 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: makes my claws come out and I literally want to 307 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: hunt down your grandmother. So it's like, yes, I get 308 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: sucked into it, but I've gotten a lot better with it. 309 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Especially you know, this whole Grammy thing, like nothing upset me. 310 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: And that's how I knew that I was getting used 311 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: to this lifestyle because not one thing bothered me, whereas 312 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: before I would have been like, you know, just really 313 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: mad about it. And now luckily I have the podcast, 314 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: so anything I want to talk about I just save 315 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: to talk to on the podcast, and. 316 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: Such a good platform there, there's your therapy to get 317 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: it out there. 318 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: Literally. I took a page from Joe Rogan though, because 319 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: that's what Joe Rogan does. Anytime he needs to address something, 320 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: he will stay silent on social media and then he'll 321 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: talk about it on his podcast. 322 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: So and I was just listening to your podcasts when 323 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: you were like I was going to take five days 324 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: off like I wasn't. 325 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, the Grammy speech here, I'm here. Yeah, yep, exactly, 326 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: you can say. 327 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: What you want. I mean, there's still it's unfortunate. I 328 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: love doing my podcast but I guess the any thing 329 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: is is no matter what we say, the press picks 330 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: up that one little snippet or something completely out of 331 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: context to skew it the narrative they want. So it's 332 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: like I said what I wanted to say, I said 333 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: it on my platform, my free will, and now it's 334 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: still being misconstrued. 335 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, luckily I and I know this can change it anytime. 336 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: The media has been so sweet to my family and I. 337 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: They have not turned on us yet, and I pray 338 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: that that never happens. I really try to like love 339 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: on the journalists who write about us and shout out 340 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: who any you know anytime I get tagged in a 341 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: story or anything like that. But my problem is is 342 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: I get put in the news for the like Bunny 343 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: Exo wears diapers? What is another crazy one that I've 344 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: been on? 345 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I just I just found that today. 346 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like, it's like it's the funniest stuff 347 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: because I'm always you know, I'm very open with everything 348 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: that I do. But the headlines that ensue for me 349 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: are just comedic. It is so fun. 350 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm not kidding. I'm not tech savvy, So I 351 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: was like going down a rabbit hole. No pen intended here, 352 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: and it's funny and so SO wears diapers and I was like, oh, 353 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: Siri thinks I'm asking about bunnies. No, I literally a 354 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: story about you. 355 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: It's a real story. It was like viral because I 356 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: was talking about I have a lot of doctors that 357 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: come on the podcast too, because I'm like really into 358 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: health and stuff. And I was talking about how I 359 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: don't wear tampons anymore, and then I do wear diapers 360 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: and I love them, like I will never wear a 361 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: tampon again, Like put me in a diaper and call 362 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: it a day, you know, And you know, the media 363 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: just thought it was the craziest thing, which I was like, 364 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: why is this news? But at the same time, it 365 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: was so funny because I was just like, well, honey, 366 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: your wife's in the news for wearing diapers, and my 367 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: my hot card just got revoked my car. 368 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: No, many would say that's pretty hot, but yeah, wait, 369 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: were not just curious why not a pad? 370 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Why a diaper? Well, I don't. You can wear pads too, 371 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: but then you have to like, I don't know, the 372 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: diapers just comforting. Have you ever wore period panties? That's 373 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: my new thing. I don't even wear the diapers anymore. 374 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Period panties like are a godsend. I'm telling you right now. 375 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: But they kind of sent me over the I don't know. 376 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: No, I love them, I really love it. They're just 377 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: so comfortable. You don't have to deal with all the 378 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: blood and like the leakage and like, I don't know, 379 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: I just love period panties. I want to send you 380 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: a pair of period panties. Get her information, yes, I'm 381 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna say. 382 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: And my girls are like that's the new thing with teens, 383 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: like the very end of that, which I'm happy, like, 384 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: I don't want my girls wearing tampons obviously, like yeah, 385 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: and they love the period panties. Oh yeah, I mean 386 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: menopod so I don't have to deal with that. 387 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: So yay, I can't wait. 388 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: I've never missed my period more in my life. 389 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, Oh my gosh, how old are you? Fifty two? 390 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Are you fifty? You look fucking amazing. 391 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you. We're on zoom though you 392 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: can't see me. 393 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: No, you like amazing. No, I'm I can't wait. I 394 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: have horrendous periods though, like my the cramps and just 395 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, I hate it. I can't. 396 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: I is midel still in business? 397 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? But my current yeah they are. Actually I use pampering, 398 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: but they I'm telling you they my cramps don't care. 399 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: They are like, it's literally like I have freaking spaghetti 400 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: noodles in there. Somebody's twisting a fork every month. I'm 401 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: over it. 402 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: Take the I never had that. 403 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: That's why you missed your period? Then, okay, that makes 404 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: sense because I'm like my. 405 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: Friends that were like, I can't go to school today 406 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: because my period are I can't go to work. I'm like, 407 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: I never No, I don't know. 408 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: You had a good one. Yeah, you had an easy ride. 409 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Mine is like I have to plan 410 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: my life around my period. On my my Google calendar 411 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: every month, there's literally days blocked off for my first 412 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: three days in my period because it's so bad. 413 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, once that's gone, you're going to miss it. 414 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Don't tell me that. Don't tell me that. 415 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: Day. 416 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Are you on hormones now? Are you doing? Uh? Yeah? 417 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: Notmurrently. I was taking the pellets. 418 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah. Have you ever done like the 419 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: estrogen patches and the progesterone cream and stuff like that. 420 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: I did. But here's my thing is, I'm not consistent, 421 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: so I would miss it. So the pellets were easier 422 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: because they were put in, you know, once every three months. 423 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: But now I'm off of that. Yeah, I need to 424 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: go with something. 425 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah I love I'm all for hormone replacement therapy and 426 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: so for it. Yeah. We did IVF the path. We 427 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: did IVF this past year, and it wrecked my hormones 428 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: for a little bit. So my new thing is I 429 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: love vaginal estrogen cream. It is a freakin' life saver. 430 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. It's everything's great now, so 431 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't have to I didn't have to keep using it. 432 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: But for a minute there, like my estrogen was like 433 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: a twenty six, Like it was so low, and I 434 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: was using the Estra drink cream, and it's just it 435 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: reinvigorates your life. What is it supposed to be your 436 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: Your estrogen is supposed to be like eighty and higher, 437 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: and it was tanked. It was like twenty six. When 438 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: you're in menopause, it's lower. I believe whyet now my 439 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: dog is going to go off because you're your dog. 440 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: My husband's basset hound is sitting behind me right now. 441 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: We would you say my husband's basset hound, because it's 442 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: not yours. 443 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: He's mine too, but my husband will tell you that 444 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: it is his dog, so we let it be his 445 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: dog because he has not claimed any of the other 446 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: animals in the house, but he has claimed this one, 447 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: so we don't want to tread on any toes. And 448 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: then my dog is right here, Chagi. 449 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: What other animals do you have? I have? 450 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: We have cows. 451 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: We have two cows to live on a hobby form 452 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: I read that. 453 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have crunching more and then we have two donkeys, 454 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: Nova and Nova and Donk. My husband named him Donkey. 455 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: And then we have our basset hound who is Bussy, 456 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: and then my exotic bully who is Chachi. So we 457 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: have two cows. Yep, the crunch and the. 458 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: S'more okay, and do you milk them? 459 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: No, they're boys, they're bulls yeah or anything? No, No, dude, 460 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: I had to sight a bowl. Yeah, it was rough, dude, 461 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: So I didn't know when you cast straight a bowl 462 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: that they tie the balls up right, and it takes 463 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: like thirty days for the balls to fall off. 464 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: Wait, physically tie them up, physically tie. 465 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: Them up, girl. Okay, it's very barbaric. And anyways, the 466 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: balls shrivel up, okay, they shrivel up into like this 467 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: leather satchel and they just they just hang there well, 468 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: crunches the that told me he's like, the gonna fall off, 469 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's been forty five days. They haven't 470 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: fell off. He's like, oh, well, go give it a yank. 471 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: What I was like, I'm not yanking cow balls. I'm 472 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: not doing it. So my best friend I was like, 473 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: can you yank the cowball. She's like, yeah, I'll do it. 474 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: She walks right up. I would have it's a but 475 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: they're still attached, that's the thing. And she yanked the 476 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: balls and they wouldn't fall off, so she ended up 477 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: having to twist his crusty balls off of them. But 478 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: we finally got it off. Now farm life is not 479 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: for the week. I'm telling you what is happening. We 480 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: had to gastrate him because he can't have hump in chairs. 481 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: He was like in love with this one chair having chairs. 482 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: He's in the house. 483 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: No, no, we have a pergola in the backyard where 484 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: I go and I sit out there with him and 485 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: this cow thanks. He's a freaking lap dog. So I 486 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: would sit in this chair and he would try to 487 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: it's all, but he's six hundred. 488 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: Have you seen this guy? 489 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me show you a video of him. 490 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: So he would try to sit in my lap so 491 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: I would have to jump up, and when I would 492 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: jump up and move, he would literally just go and 493 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: just wrap himself around the chair. But I mean, this 494 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: dude's huge. Let me show you a video of him. 495 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: Like thousands of pounds. 496 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: This dude is huge. He doesn't look huge right here 497 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: because it's from far away, but there he is. Where's 498 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: the camera? Can you see him? He doesn't look huge? 499 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: Oh he looks huge. Okay, no, he's huge. He's a 500 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: big guy. What did you do with the balls? Afterwards? 501 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: So we threw he threw him away. Well, I mean, 502 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: well I didn't want to keep him because I was 503 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: so grossed. I was gonna throw satchel like it could 504 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: have made a nice coin person's taxidermy purse, you know 505 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we threw him in the in 506 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: the field behind our farm. And then it scared me 507 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: because I was like, what if a freaking coyote comes 508 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: and it's like mmmmm, you know, and once more crunch. 509 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: So I was like, this is terrible. It was farm 510 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: life is crazy. Okay. I've been doing it for going 511 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: on a year and a half now or a year now, 512 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: and I'm loving every minute of it. But it's definitely 513 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm a city girl, so learning all this stuff has 514 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: been definitely a journey. 515 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: And what made you want this? 516 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: You know, when I was going through IVF. So before 517 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: I started going through IVF, I I was like, oh, 518 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in my baby mama gardening area era, 519 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: and I learned very quickly that I can't grow anything 520 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: without killing it. 521 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: Either. 522 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm so jealous of people who have green thumbs and 523 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: I can do it. I can even kill a cactus. 524 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: I kill sunflowers. How do you kill a fucking sunflower? 525 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, like it's just there's I don't know. I 526 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: don't I can't indestructible. 527 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. 528 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean you just sit it out in the sun 529 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: and it grows. Like there. I can still kill one. 530 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: But so I was like, you know what, I can't garden. 531 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: What else can I do? I was like, you know, 532 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: I love animals. So these three cows came about and 533 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: they needed to kind of be rescued, and so we 534 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: went and we rescued them and I gave one to 535 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: my best friend, manager, Mimi, and then I kept the 536 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: other two. And then my husband was like, well, we 537 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: can't have cows without donkeys. Donkeys have to protect the herd. 538 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: So we ended up getting two. 539 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: Donkeys also, we said, true, donkeys protect the herd. 540 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: No, I hate chickens, but my manager goes, I grew 541 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: up with chickens and they're just so gross to me. 542 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: Why they shit everywhere? They shit everywhere. There's you're not 543 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: going to have a clean backyard if you have chickens, 544 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: and I just can't do it. And they smell weird. 545 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: It's a thing. And if you eat chicken. No goats. 546 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: Goats are so what's the word hyper? Yeah, they're very hyper. 547 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: They get into every like no. The cows just coast, 548 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: they lay down, they're loving, they're like you know, and 549 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: the donkeys are sweet like everybody. It's a chill vibe 550 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: and I feel like nervous energy bringing a goat in 551 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: not happening. 552 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I've never thought of that, the animal chill vibe. 553 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, you know, when you're out on 554 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: the farm. You want to just kind of relax. You 555 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: don't want to have a freaking goat just being crazy 556 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: and running around tearing up stuff all the time. You're 557 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: keeping a farm is already enough. It's hard. 558 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: I used to have goats, pigs and chickens. 559 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Did you take care of them like all that? Like, 560 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: did you actually do the work? Okay, it's different. It's 561 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: different when you got to get out there and like 562 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: really do it. Because we have people who help with 563 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: our farm too, But I've gotten my hands dirty out 564 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: there because I want to know what it's like. 565 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: And it's not easy. 566 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: It's not like farm life is not for the week man. 567 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: But curated on social it looked great. I was like, 568 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: sign me up, and then the reality is like now no. 569 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: I tried the pig thing, like three different incarnations of pigs. 570 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: We tried the pigs too, and they were so loud 571 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: and like demanding, and then they rooted our entire backyard. 572 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, no, So me and my manager 573 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: took them and they're at a very loving home and flourishing. 574 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: Wait, I have a question. Does everyone call you bunny? 575 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: They do? I mean, unless you grew up with me 576 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: and then everybody calls me liss. But anybody from life. 577 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: I said, you grew up with me, so I can 578 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: call you list. 579 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can call me lis. 580 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: I like Bunny. 581 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So anybody that's like two thousand and four and 582 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: up calls me Bunny. Anybody that's two thousand and four 583 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: and down calls me a list. That's where you can 584 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: see like who's known me the longest. It's always fun 585 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: when I get like my I don't want to say 586 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: new friends. But when I have like my one set 587 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: of friends and then my other set of friends, and 588 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: somebody will be like Bunny and the other one will 589 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: be like list, and it's just. 590 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: Like it's funny and confusion bounds. Yea, does anyone call 591 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 2: you bunny XO? 592 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: No? I mean I feel like that's like a first 593 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: and last name. So I think I feel like I 594 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: would be in trouble if somebody called me that. I 595 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: think like media does. Yeah, like media does. Whenever they're 596 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: doing like interviews, they're like buddy XO. But that's why 597 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I did it though too with the EXO with the 598 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: XO on my brand is because whenever I first started, 599 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to just be called bunny. 600 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: I was like, it feels like too stripperish, So I 601 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: was like, let me add something else on it and 602 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: make it sound even more stripperish. But at least it's 603 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: like a last name, you know, it's like a first 604 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: and a last name. 605 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: So I know you have two bonus babies I do. 606 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: I do Bailey and Noah. It has been seventeen and nine. 607 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: Seventeen is no one and nine? Now, yeah, he's nine. 608 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: I can never I have the hardest time remembering his 609 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: age for some reason. But yeah, Bailey's seventeen. She's about 610 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: to be eighteen this year, which is insane to me. 611 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: She's like a little grown woman. I'm just like, where 612 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: did time go? And then we have Noah, who's just 613 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: such They couldn't be more polar oppositely. It was like 614 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: a really like, you know, sassy, like very articulate, very 615 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: like knows what she wants, very like you know, just 616 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: she is who she is, and she's she's beats dancing 617 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: said the beat of her own drum. And then we 618 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: have Noah, who is so soft spoken and shy and 619 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: just like it's really cute to see two different versions 620 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: of my husband. So Bailey's like her dad when he's 621 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: in the public eye, and then he's like hurt his 622 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: dad when he's at home. So I think it's really 623 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: really cute. I love them both so much. 624 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: Kids are like their own Yeah, they march to their 625 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: own beat, and it's interesting when they flip. Like my 626 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: oldest daughter is seventeen, and she was like the easiest 627 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: when she was young, and now. 628 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: She's like sack, Like, you're like, what happened? Literally, I 629 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: tell everybody from thirteen and up they turned into especially 630 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: the girls. I don't know about the boys yet because 631 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: we haven't gotten gone through that, so let me know 632 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: how it goes. But the girls, man thirteen, they turned 633 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: into like little demons and you're like, who are you? Like, 634 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: where did you come from? And then they start getting 635 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: really cool, like around seventeen, and then I don't know 636 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: from here on you'll you'll have to tell me, but 637 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 638 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: We're in it together seventeen. 639 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll prepare notes we'll have to get in like 640 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: four years. 641 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, But same experience with her, like my 642 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: best friend, and then one day she was like, ew, 643 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: I don't like anything you show me clothing wise, like 644 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: we'd be a target and we'd always get like matching 645 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: stuff or like and then as soon as I held 646 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: something up, she's like no, and I'm like, hello, be there, Wait, 647 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: where's my kid? 648 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: Like yesterday, I was more than your kid, not wanting 649 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: your fashion advice. I'm telling you it is like you 650 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: you're like, wait, no, I know better than you. I 651 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: know that you're going to look back on these pictures 652 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: and regret anything that you're wearing right now. But I 653 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: have to let you go through this phase of life. 654 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And like for me, when the nineties fashion came 655 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: back in, it was like I was getting a tutorial 656 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: on how to wear things that was current for them. 657 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Yea, when I'm like, I lived through it, but I 658 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: had to created this brand. I created this look pretty much, 659 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: but I had to be like, wait, show me how 660 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: you wear that? Wait, oh, good idea. Do you think 661 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: that's a good mom? Though, that's a good mom that is. 662 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: But then they do come back. 663 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: They come back, so it's nice my daughter and I 664 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: feel like we're getting closer again. 665 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: Good. Yeah. I think it goes through phases. Yeah. Absolutely. 666 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: Do you think you guys will be bringing any more 667 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: babies into the household. 668 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: It could be for babies. I'm just asking. Oh, I mean, listen, 669 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: I am all for all the fur babies. Give me 670 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: all of the fur babies. I want to open a 671 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: rescue you eventually. So I definitely I want like just 672 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: a land and just walk out there and have like 673 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: hound dogs and horses and you know, more highland cows 674 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: and just I want all of it. But as far 675 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: as human babies, I have kept that journey really close 676 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: to my chest because, as you know, people love to 677 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: destroy beautiful things and it's such a personal journey that 678 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: it's the one thing I have kept off the Internet 679 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: because I just don't trust people with the process, and 680 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't need other people's opinions. And you know, like 681 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: when the baby's here, we might show the baby, we 682 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: might not. So it just depends. 683 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: I understand that. And things are getting more complicated with 684 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: the Internet and out there. So it's like your privacy, 685 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: it's scary, like you can retain for yourself is a luxury. Yeah, 686 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: being public figures like you guys are, It's just there's 687 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: very little that you feel is in your control, and 688 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: so it's so nice to have that thing. I'm trying 689 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: to think what I have. That's like my one thing. 690 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: You got to have one thing, I'm telling you, And 691 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: it actually becomes like fun not telling people about certain things, 692 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: Like I think. I think there's a lot that you 693 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: probably don't realize that you have to yourself that the 694 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: world doesn't know about you, because I've learned in this 695 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: journey what to put out and what not to put out. 696 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: So it's like people think they know everything about me, 697 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: but they really don't because we keep a lot of 698 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: stuff to ourselves. You only see what we post. You 699 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: don't see what we do in our everyday life. So 700 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's kind of fun to me to 701 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: not have the public as involved in my life as 702 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: it used to be. When I first got online, I 703 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: was word vomit, like you've had no freaking and now 704 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, people use stuff against you. It's like anything 705 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: that anybody knows about me or my husband we've told, 706 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: but for some reason, it's like it gets regurgitated back 707 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: to us. It's like a game of telephone. So like 708 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: one person seeing one person leave a comment and they 709 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: think that it's the truth, so they go and they 710 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: tell that comment to somebody else, and then it just 711 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: like it's so weird, and it's kind of crazy to 712 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: be able to watch it happen because you're like, that's 713 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: not the truth. 714 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: But you know, literally watch it happen, watch it happen 715 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: on your phone, and you're like laying in bed one morning, 716 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: you're like, what okay? Like what just happened to my 717 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 2: public life? 718 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: And you have to be okay with that, you know, 719 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: because like I said before, I used to want to 720 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: hunt down people's grandmas, and now I just don't even care. 721 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for you know what it is. I 722 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: feel so sorry for certain people on the internet because 723 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: you can tell who isn't happy and who doesn't love themselves, 724 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: and it's very apparent because they're doing there's fearing so 725 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: much freaking hatred. You can't love yourself and want to 726 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: hurt people that you've never met, you know, that's you 727 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, there's just you know, people 728 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: who leave good comments and stuff like that, at least 729 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: there's somewhat of a happiness to them, like they they 730 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: want to see you do good. They want to you know, 731 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: they're supporting you and rooting you on, as opposed to 732 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: the people who come to your page. And like say 733 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: the craziest things, like, to me, that's not happiness, that's 734 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: somebody who's hurting and you know, instead of and it's 735 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: cutting as bleeding on people who didn't cut them. 736 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 2: No for sure. And I know like and I don't 737 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 2: comment back usually to people that want to take you down, 738 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: but once in a blue moon if I have, they're like, 739 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: oh my god, you responded to me. 740 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: How are you? Like, Hi, I'm such a big fan and. 741 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: You were just talking so much shit about my kids? 742 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: What the fuck? 743 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: Like yeah, And they're like, oh no, no, no, I 744 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 2: just want to see if you would answer. 745 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: That's so weird. Yeah. Now I've had those exact conversations 746 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: with people and they're just kind of like, wait, what 747 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 1: want we see them? I just get gas lit? Yeah 748 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: yeah by a troll. 749 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. I feel like those people are easier 750 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: than the people that come into our lives and we 751 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: think they're good and they're there to like help and protect, 752 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 2: and then it's like, what is it a wolf in sheep? No, 753 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: sheep and wolf's clothing. 754 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh those are the worst. Yeah, that's I hate that's 755 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: that's more hurtful and harmful, especially if it's somebody close 756 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: to you, you know, like yeah, and I feel like 757 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: that's that was my lesson for last year, was I 758 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: let so many people from my past close to me 759 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: and just for them to turn around and bite me again, 760 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: and it's like what am I doing? You know, Like 761 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: why do I keep going back to this? So I'm 762 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: happy that it did happen. It sucks when you have 763 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: to go through it, but then after you're through it, 764 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: you're just kind of like, oh, okay. So that was 765 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: the blessing and the lesson that I had to learn 766 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: in this situation. Right, it's the cycles. It's hard. 767 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: It's hard to even when you learn the cycle and 768 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: you see them coming, it's still. 769 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: Hard not to want to. 770 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I let people in just because that's my nature 771 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: and I know not to trust, but I still want 772 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 2: to trust because I want humans to be nice. 773 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: Well, you're in love with the idea of who you 774 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: want them to be, yeah, and then when they let 775 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: you down and show you that they're not who you 776 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: want them to be, it hurts because you realize that 777 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: they're never going to be who you want them to be, 778 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: so right, you got to protect yourself. 779 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so difficult and you must find this 780 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 2: not to take on people's energy. 781 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I've I have given back to my 782 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: past so much that it got to a point where 783 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: it was so draining, to where I've cut so many 784 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: people off. And I don't care anymore. Who gets mad 785 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: at me, who goes online and talks shit from my family? Like, 786 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: I genuinely don't care because I'm so tired of just 787 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: that succubus energy coming in and just draining and like demanding, 788 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: and then when I don't do what they want me 789 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: to do, it's, oh, I'm going to go to the 790 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: internet and talk about you. It's like, I don't fucking 791 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: go ahead, I don't care anymore. 792 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: Right, weaponizing your celebrity, No. 793 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: I think it's just using your resources and your energy. 794 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: Wait at home, do you guys call each other Bunny 795 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: and Jelly? 796 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: I call him Jay. I very rarely call him jelly. 797 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever called him jelly, but I 798 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: call him Jay. I call him daddy, I call him baby, 799 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: like we just have pet names. He calls me Babushka, 800 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: which means grandma and Russian. I like, how did I 801 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: acquire that name? Does? No? No, that would be gross. 802 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean maybe when I'm older, I might 803 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: be into it. 804 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: You never know, but with with your diapers on, you know, 805 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: full circle, We don't know. 806 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: My husband loves a good saggy diaper on me. Okay, 807 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: he does not. I'll tell you know. He doesn't mind 808 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: at all. Oh my god, that's gonna be a headline now, 809 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Toy. Jelly rowl loves a saggy 810 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: diaper on his wife's buddy. I can see it now, 811 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 812 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 2: I can't lie. I'm visualizing it right now, really extremely. 813 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: I'll just literally waddle around here for like five days 814 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: and five days a month, so. 815 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: I want to see that visual and I want to 816 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 2: see like the weathered bull ball twisted and the yea like. 817 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: Those are the two things I'd taken away from this 818 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: amazing conversation. 819 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: With Listen, time to Nashville, Come hang out. I'll show 820 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: you at all. 821 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I would love to you. Wait, so 822 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: you're sending me period panties? 823 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: Yes, wait, diapers? 824 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: Why can't you just get depens I mean. 825 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: I guess you could, but the period diapers that I 826 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: used to wear are black, so I felt like it 827 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: was a little more a rock star. I felt like 828 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: it was a little more rock star. And the pink 829 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: depends or the white depends. You really feel like you're 830 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: wearing a toddler diaper if you slap on the But 831 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: if you put on the period diapers, they're black and 832 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: they're cute and like you know, they're cut a little 833 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: bit different. But like I said, now, I don't wear 834 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: the diapers anymore. I wear the panties and they're phenomenal, 835 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: especially if you get them in like the nylon material. 836 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely that you should do a line of them. 837 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: I should. What my manager's right here, make that happen. 838 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: Chop chop exo period panties. Let's do it. I'm down. 839 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: I would do it in a heartbeat. You should. 840 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 2: No, I love branding stuff. 841 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. 842 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 2: But like with a little bunny on it, that'd be cute. 843 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: I would love that. I want to do lingerie too, 844 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: So maybe we just all sexy stuff and then there's 845 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: period panties. 846 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: No, but I like that that's real, and that's you're 847 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 2: real because you can be real and be sexy at 848 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 2: the same time. 849 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: For sure. That's what I preach. That's literally what my 850 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: whole brand is Yeah. 851 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm so glad I got to talk with you because 852 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: I read about you read about your husband, and I'm 853 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: just like, you never know someone. Yeah, and now I'm 854 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: talking with you and we're having this conversation, I'm like, 855 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 2: oh my god, I just wish we were hanging out and. 856 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: Come hang out. 857 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: I've never been to Nashville. 858 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: Well, we have a house in La too, So I'm 859 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: going to be out there. Yep. I'm gonna be out 860 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: there in March. So okay, do you want to go 861 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: eat lunch or whatever. I'll be out there. I' getting 862 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: a facelift on the fifteenth, so I might look a 863 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: little tacked bag. 864 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 2: But wait, can you talk to me about this for 865 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: two seconds? 866 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: Sure? 867 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: Can you say who's doing it or not yet? 868 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? Yeah? Doctor Gold and Beverly Hill's geo uld. 869 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: He's amazing. His work is insane. 870 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: How did you come to this conclusion of the doctor 871 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: not about the lift? So with me, everyone has like 872 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 2: a different opinion who you should go to for anything? 873 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: Face body. Yeah, I read people's reviews. Well, first of all, 874 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: I look at their work. You have to look at 875 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: their work. And I am very, very very picky about 876 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: just symmetrics, and I don't know. I have a real 877 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: eye when it comes to certain things. And doctor Gold 878 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: just checked all of those boxes. Even his patients that 879 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: are like two or three years out still look phenomenal. 880 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: And that's what you want whenever you're picking a plastic surgeon. 881 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: You know you want somebody whose works still looks good 882 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: two or three years down the road, because a fresh 883 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: facelift always looks good. You know you're swollen, you just 884 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: got it done. I mean I'm. 885 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: Nervous when I look online and people look tight like 886 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: that makes me like you want down below to be tight, 887 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 2: not up by? 888 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, why not both within reason? You know 889 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? Why not both? Have you ever had 890 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: a facelift? No, oh you haven't had one, so I 891 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: mean either. This is all nature said. 892 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 2: So much about me having plastic surgery that I'm actually like, 893 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 2: I do the least amount of stuff because people say. 894 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: I've had so much done, So I do people say 895 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: they like love to get plastic surgery. 896 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 2: I know they've already said it about me, so I 897 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 2: might as well do. He said I've had everything in 898 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 2: the moon done. It's like, well, I had a note 899 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 2: at sixteen and I have botox and like lip filler. 900 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: That's it. Like people say the same thing about me, 901 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: and I've never had facial surgery. I literally have had 902 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: a filler and lip filler in botox. Stu's yeah, but 903 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: people are like, oh, she's I think even there's an 904 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: article online that says I've had like my nose done, 905 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: my gin done. I'm like, I wish, but no. But 906 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: that's why I'm so open with this journey, Like my 907 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: my whole my team is going to be in there 908 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: while they're operating on me, and like I'm going to 909 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: film the whole facelift and I'm going to do my 910 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: podcast with the bandages on my face, Like I'm going 911 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: to keep it. I'm going to keep it real, like 912 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: I have nothing to hide from anybody. And it's like 913 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: I want people to know, like, hey, you can get, 914 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, a facelift done and still be a normal 915 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: human being, because there's like, oh my god, facelifts and 916 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: it's like it's not that big of a deal. You're 917 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: literally tacking some jowls back, you know, So I think 918 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: there's a lower stigma. No, I'm going to do a 919 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 1: deep plane facelift and a brow lift and fat transfer 920 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: under my eyes and the net revision because I mean, 921 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm forty six. I want to do it now so 922 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: that I can age better, you know, like, I don't 923 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: want to be sixty years old to getting a deep 924 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: plane facelift unless I absolutely freaking have to, because you know, 925 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: our bodies aren't young and spry and healing. I've seen 926 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 1: a lot of sixty year olds online. There's this one 927 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: lady that I follow on Instagram. I don't even follow her. 928 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: She just pops up in my reels and she's like 929 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: forty five days in. But I'm so I'm immersed in 930 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: her story because she's forty five days in and she 931 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: is miserable since getting her facelift done, And I'm like, 932 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: this just confirms that I'm getting a facelift done younger 933 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: before you need it. Yeah, is so much easier. Yeah, 934 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: and that's why I need it. I need it. I 935 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: have Yeah. I mean, we're on zoom. If we were 936 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: in person, I could show you my triple chin and 937 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: all that stuff. 938 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: But we're on Zoom, so a plane versus a regular facelift. 939 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: So I think I'm not don't quote me on this 940 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: because I'm not I'm not a connoisseur in facelifts, but 941 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: deep plan is where they go in and they do 942 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: the entire face right, so it's like from here up 943 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: and then they go up here and they do the 944 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: brow lift or whatever. Okay, but I'm not sure what 945 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: the difference between a facelift and a deep plane face 946 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: lift is. We should probably give that a goog memes meme. 947 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: He's looking it up right now and that doctor Gold. 948 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 2: Did you meet with him in person or just zoom it? 949 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: Did? I did? I zoomed with him first and then 950 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: I met with him in person, and I just love. Yeah, 951 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: it's more dramatic. Yeah, so the deep plane is just 952 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more dramatic, whereas a regular facelift they're 953 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: kind of like just tacking it back a little bit, 954 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: where this one is like neck and all of that. 955 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: It goes with the muscles or whatever. But yeah, doctor 956 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: Gold is amazing. Check out his work. He really likes 957 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: and it's so like natural and just like I don't know, 958 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: it's there's something different about his work. I think he's 959 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: going to be the next big plastic surgeon in CALLI 960 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 1: for sure. And is Jay coming out with you? He'll 961 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: be here. Yeah, my husband's right now doing star search. 962 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: Oh wait wait right, yeah, so he's doing star search. 963 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, but I didn't want him to be there. 964 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 1: I was like, you're gonna stress me out. I'm gonna 965 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: be all freaking gross coming out of surgery. He does, 966 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it stresses me out because 967 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't if I'm in pain, I don't want to 968 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: show that I'm in pain because I don't want him 969 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: to feel like he has to take care of me. 970 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: Maybe that's like my hyperindependence, but because you're bullet proof, 971 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: yeah right, I mean, we try to be right, but 972 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: it stresses me out because I'm just like, baby, I 973 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: won't let me do this on my own. And then 974 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: maybe like a week out, come and see me. You 975 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: Nobody's like nope, I'm going to be there. I'm like, 976 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: oh god, okay, he stressing me out. He came with 977 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: me to get my boobs done whenever I got my 978 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 1: my ex plant, I got my implants removed, and he 979 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: was with me there and that poor baby for two 980 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: hours in the waiting room, just paced back and forth. 981 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: I was so nervous and like just could not sit still, 982 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: and you know, and I just don't want to do 983 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: that to him. While I'm in a five hour surgery, 984 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: I'll feel his energy. He's not allowed to come. I've 985 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: decided he's not allowed to come. But I did not 986 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: know this. 987 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 2: You got your implants removed and replaced, or just removed. 988 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 1: Just removed. I took him out in twenty nineteen. I 989 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: really felt like I was. I was never diagnosed with it, 990 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: but I had so many symptoms that were like BI 991 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: and mine were sailing and I had him in for 992 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: thirteen years. 993 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm sorry, what is I BI? 994 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: His breast implant illness? So, I mean, there's so much 995 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: stuff that comes with having implants. And when we took 996 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: my implants out, they actually had mold on the inside 997 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: of them. No. Yeah, and my implant had folded in 998 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,240 Speaker 1: half and scar tissue grew around it like a freaking 999 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: lobster claw. The scar tissue that they removed was bigger 1000 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: than the implant. Oh my god. Yeah, Like it's crazy. So, 1001 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I miss having fake boobs, but because I 1002 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: just love the way they look and how they sit. 1003 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm just so happy to 1004 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: have those things out of my body. 1005 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: I kind of want to do that you sure. 1006 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you can always get them put back in 1007 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 1: if you don't like it, but like let your body 1008 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: heal for you know, taking out in twenty nineteen, and 1009 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and I got a lift, and you can 1010 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: always get fat transfer if you want to, like firk 1011 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: them up a little bit. But the women's bodies you 1012 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 1: know this because you've had kids. But isn't it crazy 1013 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: how we snap back? Because when I first had my 1014 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: my my boobs x planted, my boobs look like frank entitty. 1015 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: And then literally a year later, they well they're just 1016 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: they're stitched up. They just like look crazy because you 1017 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: just took freaking huge implants out of them and well mine, 1018 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: we're huge. And then like you know, six months to 1019 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: a year afterwards, they just looked so pretty and you're 1020 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: just like wow, Like you can't believe that your body 1021 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 1: can he can go from one extrain to the other. 1022 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: But is it like a weight lifted off your chest? 1023 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 2: I mean literally, but do you because you're so heavy, 1024 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm convinced it's given me like my 1025 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 2: pain in my neck and back. 1026 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: They start getting so heavy, and the problem was is 1027 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: they start making start making you look matronly, you know, 1028 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: like you can't wear like a cute crop top with 1029 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: jeans because it like hangs weird. And like now I 1030 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 1: just I love being able to wear like cute little 1031 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: T shirts and like, you know, my jeans because before 1032 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,760 Speaker 1: I just felt like it it made me look older 1033 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: than I was because they were just so heaving. You know. 1034 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 2: Well, my I had my implants for twenty years. They 1035 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: were expired recalled. I finally did it and got them 1036 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: redone in two twenty twenty one, and I feel like 1037 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 2: the new implants are even bigger. 1038 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: So it's like the whole thing was I wanted to 1039 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: go smaller. Well, the only way you would have been 1040 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: able to go smaller is if they did a reduction 1041 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, so probably taking them out to fill 1042 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: up that space, they had to go a little bit bigger. 1043 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: Or they might are they high profile, they might sit 1044 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: differently because they're high profile. 1045 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. They're flatter than mine were. Mine were 1046 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 2: like perkyar. 1047 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: These are like wider. 1048 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 2: These look worse in my opinion and clothes than the others. 1049 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: Well, the good thing is that you can always take 1050 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 1: him home if you don't want to keep them. 1051 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 2: In, So I know that's a choice you look into 1052 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: b I. 1053 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: I look into that and just go down that wormhole. 1054 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 2: Great, because I didn't have enough to go down. 1055 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: Welcome. I'll be doing that to night. I'm sure they contributes. 1056 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to be texting me like, what the fuck funny, 1057 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: thank you for doing problem. Thank you. I'm telling you 1058 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: you're you will be shook when you find out how 1059 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: many illnesses and autoimmune illnesses are linked to rest implants. 1060 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 1061 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: Oh boy, wow, who did that surgery? Uh my uh 1062 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: doctor Tarola and Murphysboro, Tennessee. He's amazing. If you do 1063 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: have your I will tell everybody if you have your 1064 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: boobs explanted, go to a microsurgeon, because anytime anybody has 1065 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: to skin and reshape, you want somebody who stitches you 1066 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 1: up like a freakin doll, like you want seamless stitches. 1067 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: And that's what that's what they'll be able to do. 1068 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: And how are your scars today? 1069 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 2: From that? 1070 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: Amazing? 1071 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 2: I think the notion for me is just like, I'm 1072 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 2: gonna have scars, but. 1073 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 1: They're not what you think they are. I'll send you 1074 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: pictures of my boobs after this. Okay, Wow, you want 1075 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: to see them? Internet my boobs, so I'm not really 1076 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: worried about it. 1077 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 2: I won't show anybody. 1078 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. 1079 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 2: Well, good luck next week and good luck in March. 1080 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate you. I'll 1081 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: be out there, so let's go on. 1082 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 2: I'd love to hug you in person. 1083 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: Yes, let's do it. Okay, all right, bye baby, byee, 1084 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: I'll see you later. Bye