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Okay, yeah, 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:31.959 and then you gotta lead this to people that you pay, 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:36.000 not us, to your granny, not us. All right, what 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:40.200 number of caution? Yes you want to let's do Yeah, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.080 we're gonna do twenty eight and twenty nine. We got 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.120 two juicy questions. M m okay, So I want to 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.280 start with the first one from Crystal and then we'll 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.840 go to Kathy. So these are two really juicy questions. First, 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.080 Crystal is up. She has made a ton of career 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.679 moves and ended up in a on across country. She's 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.560 a very cool story, but might be going back home 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:03.880 and wants to figure out how to break it to 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.480 her employer. And then we have a question from Kathy, 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.480 who wants to know should she take a pay cut to. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.280 Have a better commute. Hey, be a fan. We're gonna 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:17.080 take a quick break and we'll be right back. So 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:22.239 these are two incredible questions. We'll start with Crystal. Crystal says, first, 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.080 I want to say that I found your podcast just 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.800 a few months ago, and I absolutely love it. I 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:32.320 listen every week Monday and Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:33.760 Oh throw back Monday. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.240 How the back? Mondays? My question is. I am thirty 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.360 years old and I've worked in the finance industry for 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.720 about seven years. I left my last investment firm due 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.600 to it being highly stressful and ended up taking some 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.840 time off because I met my fans, I had a 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.280 new baby, and I also have a ten year old 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.800 whose father passed away seven years ago. You have lived 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.520 a lot of life for a thirty year old. Can 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:02.160 I just sidebar? Wow? Okay, she says. I decided to 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.360 move all the way across the country with my children 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.240 and took a new position at a new brokerage firm. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.400 I really do enjoy my job, and I actually like 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.040 my manager, and the people that I've worked with have 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.000 begun to invest in me. With my short time being here, 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.279 which is now going on a year, well, I have 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.200 had some major issues in my relationship and I have 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.280 very minimal support with my childcare since I've been here. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.120 I have a huge support system back in my hometown, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.480 and I have decided to move back. I do feel 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.200 guilty because I really like what I do. I know 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.200 that we can work from home after a year, and 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.159 we do have some people who work out of state 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.599 but still belong to their team. I have a big 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.240 exam coming up for the Securities Industry exam, and this 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.480 will get me a five K raise plus a bonus. 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.640 The test is scheduled thirty days before my lease is up. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.360 Thirty days before my lease is up. Okay, I want 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.440 to know how I should approach a conversation with my 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.320 manager about me moving back to my hometown. I really 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.680 want to stay with the company and either transfer my 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.240 job to the firm we have there or work from home. Home. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:07.760 Please help me, ladies. Okay, oh Crystal, listen, best laid 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.080 plans are often like the best prescription I can provide 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:16.040 on paper. Changes. Everything changes when you bring kids into 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:20.440 the mix and the support system that you have. And listen, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.800 without a doubt, you should go back to where your 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.560 support system is if that is what you want to do. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:31.400 And I probably would have answered this differently a few 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.920 years ago, even but now that I have felt what 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.520 it feels like to not have, you know, like a 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.520 or I have felt and now I have a support 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.040 system because I had to you know, befriend them and 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.359 trap them into liking me and then like you know, 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.120 showing up and feeding the dog when I'm not there 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.960 and taking care of the kids and stuff. Anyway, So 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.919 I know what that feels like. It is so isolating, 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.760 it is so difficult. And so if you have a 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.400 one of your sisters who's a single mom right with 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.320 the two kiddos and so you you know, you're part 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.600 of her village, it's a huge like literally they are 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.080 going to live in the house once you move out. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:09.600 So I completely agree, and I honestly think that what 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.840 you have is a pretty sweet situation in terms of 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.000 being about to cross countries, so you're not in a 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.559 position where you need to find a whole new job. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.359 And the fact that it sounds like they really like 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.880 you at the company, they are investing in you. They 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.200 take care of their employees. You already see some examples 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.680 of workers who are working remotely or have transferred to 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:38.040 other like satellite offices or whatever. Like that all bodes 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.560 well for you. And I say, you don't make it 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.080 a big secret. Maybe you want to, you know, go 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.480 ahead and take the exam and pass it and then 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.160 like celebrate that and then lay it on them because 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.440 you still have that thirty days before your lease is up. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.400 But I would if your relationship with your manager is good, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.520 would I would just trusty that they will say true 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.960 to you know how the relationship has been so far, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.280 which is if they you know, are understanding, they're flexible 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.120 with you, then just tell them, like, tell them what's 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.240 going on. You don't have to give details about your relationship, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.040 but just say, you know, when I moved out here 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.560 a year ago, I had a support system and unfortunately, 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.360 due to circumstances, I have lost my you know, support system, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.160 and I have so much love and support on the 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.720 other on the East Coast or wherever it is that 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.239 you're from, and start focusing on solutions at that point 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.080 and say I love work. Just tell them what you've 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.920 told us, You love working there, you really enjoy you 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.520 know how supportive them your manager is. You want to 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.320 make this work as there as such? Is there a 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.360 world in which they would be okay with you transferring 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.720 to another firm? And uh, that's the beauty of working 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.320 for a big corporation. You work for a big financial firms. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.000 They have offices in a lot of major cities, so 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.560 it's you know, I don't think it's out of the 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.280 realm of possibility at all for you to get a 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.720 yes and for them to be okay with you moving 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.560 back to your hometown, especially if like you're willing to 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.440 show up in that office over there or work from home. 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.640 I would say what you should be prepared for is 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.280 that they may be okay with you doing that, but 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.160 you may not be able to stay on the exact 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.520 same team, maybe because of the time difference. I don't know, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.080 So be flexible. But I think you're in a pretty 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.840 fantastic situation. And the last thing I'll add is that 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.240 you have incredible experience. For being only thirty years, you 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.000 have seven years of experience in the finance industry and babay, 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.640 I think that you will have no problem, yes, finding 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.400 another job if that is what it comes down to. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.080 But yeah, I mean tif, she sounds like she's in 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.200 a good situation right now. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.839 Now, I agree, And there's someone who will be on 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.360 the other side, Like from the manager slash leadership perspective, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.520 if you're excellent, I will move mountains to keep you 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.480 here and happy. Yes, you know, like I share that 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.040 all the time and brought to cheered that life. Like, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.160 you know, some excellent members of my team were asking 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.760 for like a raise, but last year was like the 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:06.440 hardest year we had. We were made, like, you know, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.520 relatively next to no money relative to what we normally make, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.280 and so what they were asking for was not crazy, 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.040 but it's like, there's just not money to pay. And 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.160 it forced me to get creative. And I created a 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:24.400 whole new profit sharing system just to accommodate these employees, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.800 because that's how great they were. It was like advise them, Yes, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.800 I said, okay, I don't have any money. Here's the 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.440 money we don't have any one. I was like transparency, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.320 here's the money. I want you to see the numbers 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.000 as I see them. Two, this is what normally I 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.000 would make as owners draw like, this is how owner's 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.320 draws work. Three, I will share twenty percent of what 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.080 I would take home with you. And so it allowed 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.920 them to say okay, and so as a result of that, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.600 they just got their first payom Q one and they 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.840 were all happy. Q two is they could even better. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.840 So they're even happier because then they could do the math. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.160 Now they're like, ooh, I see the money we made. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.640 I know how much the company costs us to run monthly. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.120 This is what's likely to be left over. Tippy's gonna 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.360 take her eighty is gonna go into the pool, and 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.280 it's gonna be me, you know. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.079 And so I just say it's a bonus, like a 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.000 quarterly bonus. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.280 That's dope, right, I love that pool party. I'm gonna 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.160 start calling that like it's a pool party, you know. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.760 So I share that to say that if you it 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.880 sounds like you are an amazing employee and at the 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.560 end of the day, people want to keep good people. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:28.120 You know. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.400 I was just telling it to a friend who's under like, 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.640 you know, like his boss wanted to talk to him 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.840 because they're they're kind of like his team he's leading, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.880 he's leading a leadership role, a new leadership role, and 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.800 his team is kind of pushing back because he hasn't 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.480 quite built trust with them and whatever. And my friend 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.679 was like, oh, what if they let me go? And 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.079 I said, ultimately, it sounds like your boss said, one, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.280 they're not letting you go, so trust that he's not. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.120 And then two, it sounds like they're actually wanting to 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.320 develop you so that way you bring the team like 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.640 on board. And the key really though, is that ultimately 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.400 nobody wants to say yay, I can't wait to look 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.800 for a new candidate. It's like ordering Uber eats. You know, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.959 you ever order your Uber eats that's missing, like you're 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.320 SMOOTHI or whatever, and you call them, You're like, you 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.160 didn't put my smoothie and they're like, we'll send your 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.000 money back, and you're like, if I wanted my money, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.800 I would have kept my money. I want my smoothie. Yeah, 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.000 And so you know, so ultimately people want their people. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.840 They don't, you know, like if they wanted, like, you know, 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.560 their money, they would keep their money. No, they want 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:26.480 you girl, you the smoothie. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.680 I say all that to say, I'm trying to find 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.280 I'm like following them on this analogy train, but like, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:36.000 I don't hungry, definite. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.760 I don't know why I didn't eat breakfast or lots, 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:40.600 if that makes sense. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.480 So anyway, I just say that where is the reservoir 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.160 of energy that you are now pulling from? 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.920 I have no idea, honestly, but I say all that 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.520 to say, then you sound like an amazing employee. People 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.360 move mountains for amazing employees, and they will find a way, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.840 And to Mandy's point, if they don't find a way, 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.680 you just take your amazing employee self someplace elf. But 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:04.440 having a support system is everything, because you cannot be 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.440 an amazing employee without a support system. And good leadership 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.800 knows that. And so yeah, good luck to you. We 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.080 can't wait to hear about them. Say yes, girl, whatever 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.120 you need or you're finding an even better job someplace else. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.959 You're a brave, badass lady too. You have been through 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.439 the loss of the father of your child. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:23.640 Yeah, so sorry. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.360 You have taken a chance on a new relationship, moved 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.520 your kids across the country, had a baby, you know, 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.040 in the last year, Like you have already accomplished so 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.200 much and overcome so much. I feel like whatever, Like 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.160 there's you're gonna overcome, you know, and you're gonna get through. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.480 And I can't wait to hear what your boss says 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.800 when you give them the news, Like, well, you know, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.240 I'd love a follow up, let us know how it goes. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.280 But I think that Crystal, you are in really good 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.080 shape and you should be damn proud of yourself too, Mama, 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.920 Like we're gonna take a break and come back. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.640 Our second question we'll be back in black. Got whatever, 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.960 and we're back in brown. Our next question is from Kathy, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.440 hopefully that we can use your name, Kathy, because you 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.920 said you shared it with us. If Cathy says high, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.640 lovely ladies, I have a work dilemma. I currently have 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.400 a job at one of the top universities in the country, 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.160 and my pay reflects that nown but I have to 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.600 commute up to three hours to get to work Jesus 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:35.960 five hours in total. What is what? Or work from home? 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:36.360 Child? 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.880 I work from I work from home two days a week. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.000 Some days I work fourteen hours on campus and then 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.439 have to drive home two hours. So my health and 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.400 personal life are taking a told. Oh, I've asked my 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.160 current job for a moving bonus and or support and staffing. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.800 They decline. I might have a full time job blind 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.000 up ten minutes from where I live, but I would 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.000 it would be a twenty five percent pay cut and 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.440 a lower title. What do you think should I take 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.040 the pay cut and a titled emotion or wait and 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.760 continue to apply for other positions that are more reflective 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.560 of my current work experience? Ooh job, Well, I'll just 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.920 say this and I'll let Mandy lean in with her expertise, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:22.920 I'll say this that I mean, no job is worth 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.440 the health decline. I know everyone does not have the 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.760 financial ability to make choices for what's better for their health. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.960 So I can acknowledge that some people are just like, oh, girl, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.920 is this or I starve? If you have the option 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.280 beyond it's this or a starve, even if it means 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.400 this and I have less, like if you're I mean, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:45.960 there are some things that we could do to our 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:50.520 bodies that are not as easily repaarable than others. You 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.360 don't want to put yourself in that position because stress 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:57.640 is corrosive. You know. Stress leads to heart attacks, stress 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:03.000 leads to strokes, stress leads to high blood pressure. Stress 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.000 is just it is a corrosive killer, honestly, and so 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.600 we do not want that for you. So whatever you 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.840 have to do to still pay your bills, to make 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.240 sure you eat as well as reduce this level of stress, 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.680 you know, I just employ you to like make that 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.240 that that is paramount in this decision. But I'll let 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.040 Mabie talk to you about the career component. But I 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:22.360 just want to put that out there that it is 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.760 not worth your your health and happiness like no way. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.640 Yeah, these two questions, you know, going from Crystal, who 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.760 I feel like is in such a great position because 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:37.360 her job values her and has already shown her in 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.120 so many ways that they can accommodate you know what 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.760 she needs. It sucks, Kathy, because you're working at a 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.480 place that has you've already tried to advocate for yourself 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.560 and then you've been met with a big fat no. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.240 And it being one of the top universities in the country. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.640 It's almost like sometimes when you have an institution that 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.280 has that like has that allure, knows they're hot, is 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.080 like knows that people would love to have your job. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.080 Instead of having banging benefits and being really great to 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.080 their people, sometimes they can kind of be dicks and 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.920 just be like, well, you work at this elite institution. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.640 You get to benefit from our brand, so put up 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.680 with like the shitty commune, you know, and the fact 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.000 that they won't even give you a moving bonus. Here's 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.160 what I want to say at the bathroom of your 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.640 question made me think of is that in my Mandy 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.720 money Maker's coaching community, I have this maker. Oh my god, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.400 Isabella just phenomenal. She also works for university, and she 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:41.960 was just going through this like wild months long interview 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.520 process with I think two or three other universities. And 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:50.200 not only is she negotiating for her own pay with 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:55.040 these universities, she wants a position for her husband as well, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:59.040 who's also a professor. And there's actually universities that will 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.640 hire a professor and then also place their spouse in 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.399 a job, especially if they want to recruit someone who 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.399 lives in a different city. And she got two universities 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.920 to not just give her a job, but then her husband, 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:17.480 her spouse a job. Gives you a kidding she I'm saying, 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.560 I'm saying, hey, the jackpot and she and then they 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.840 negotiated her salary and his and I think that her 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.680 position it's on the ten they're both ten year track positions. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.880 Maybe hers is already ten yeared. I don't know the details, 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.959 but I remember being blown away, and I just I 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.000 share that anecdote because I want you to know that 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:37.760 this is not how it has to be at every 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:41.440 university job. And I find that people who work in education, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.159 whether it's you know, K through twelve or higher education 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.600 at universities and colleges, because you are doing it for 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.720 the kids and you are educating. Sometimes they think that 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.760 they can take advantage of people who want to do 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.200 the right thing and they'll do anything for you know, 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.240 the good of the kids and all of that. So 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.000 they pay you shit or they give you shitty better 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.720 and if it's and that similar to how the nonprofit 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.840 sector gets off gets away with having sometimes crappy pay 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.560 is because people are like, oh, I can't negotiate it. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.840 That's nonprofit. We're here for the good of whatever cause 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.800 we're supporting. But no, these universities, I don't care if 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.800 it's a for profit quote unquote or a nonprofit quote unquote. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:23.159 They still make bank They have large endowments. You know, 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.000 they have so much support from alumni and you know 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.720 even from you know, the government funding these institutions as well. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.320 So I just wanted to say that as an example 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.280 of this does not have to be the way it is, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.520 and you may find a university that does give you 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.760 what you need, that will pay you your relocation, that 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:45.280 will give you, you know, the flexibility that you need 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.840 so that you don't have such a shitty commute. Okay, So, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.280 as far as you know, should you take this pay cut, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.160 I totally agree with what Tiffany said when it comes 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.520 to your mental health. I mean, what could you do 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:02.960 with that much more time? And excuse me? Yeah, what 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:04.880 could you do with that much more time, that much 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.320 more energy? And I bet you could put that time 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.639 and energy into crafting the rest of your career, you know, 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.920 publishing research that could raise your profile and your feel 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.040 I don't know what kind of you know, what you 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.639 exactly teach, or what your area of focuses, but you 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.440 could do research, write a book, speak, be out there 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:31.199 in your space, get noticed by another university you know 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.399 that could recruit you. And yeah, I think that you 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.040 need to make the right choice for yourself. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:36.280 And I. 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.960 Like that there's the potential for them to lose a 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.440 great talent like you, and maybe that will help them see, oh, 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.000 maybe we shouldn't treat people like shit. Yes, And I 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.160 also wouldn't be totally surprised if when you do, if 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.560 you decide to resign and take this other job, you 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.600 go to them and they're like, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.520 what do you need to stay? Because we don't we 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.199 don't want to lose you. So yeah, think of it 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.119 that way. I mean, you know, their their weakness. Like 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.760 you're on a school calendar right now, a lot of recruiting, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:10.520 like for example, Isabelle the Baby money Maker, She's doing 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.560 all these interviews throughout the school year and therefore positions 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.240 that start in the fall. And like Tiffany said before, 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.679 as a manager, you lose someone now, so you're gonna 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.159 already have missed out and all the great candidates because 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.280 they already have their positions locked in for the fall. 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.680 So they're going to be putting themselves at a disadvantage 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.840 not having someone lined up for the fall to teach 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:35.560 whatever you're teaching. So I should make them wait, let 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.800