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Speaker 2: start with the first one from Crystal and then we'll
Speaker 2: go to Kathy. So these are two really juicy questions. First,
Speaker 2: Crystal is up. She has made a ton of career
Speaker 2: moves and ended up in a on across country. She's
Speaker 2: a very cool story, but might be going back home
Speaker 2: and wants to figure out how to break it to
Speaker 2: her employer. And then we have a question from Kathy,
Speaker 2: who wants to know should she take a pay cut to.
Speaker 1: Have a better commute. Hey, be a fan. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back. So
Speaker 1: these are two incredible questions. We'll start with Crystal. Crystal says, first,
Speaker 1: I want to say that I found your podcast just
Speaker 1: a few months ago, and I absolutely love it. I
Speaker 1: listen every week Monday and Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
Speaker 2: Oh throw back Monday.
Speaker 1: How the back? Mondays? My question is. I am thirty
Speaker 1: years old and I've worked in the finance industry for
Speaker 1: about seven years. I left my last investment firm due
Speaker 1: to it being highly stressful and ended up taking some
Speaker 1: time off because I met my fans, I had a
Speaker 1: new baby, and I also have a ten year old
Speaker 1: whose father passed away seven years ago. You have lived
Speaker 1: a lot of life for a thirty year old. Can
Speaker 1: I just sidebar? Wow? Okay, she says. I decided to
Speaker 1: move all the way across the country with my children
Speaker 1: and took a new position at a new brokerage firm.
Speaker 1: I really do enjoy my job, and I actually like
Speaker 1: my manager, and the people that I've worked with have
Speaker 1: begun to invest in me. With my short time being here,
Speaker 1: which is now going on a year, well, I have
Speaker 1: had some major issues in my relationship and I have
Speaker 1: very minimal support with my childcare since I've been here.
Speaker 1: I have a huge support system back in my hometown,
Speaker 1: and I have decided to move back. I do feel
Speaker 1: guilty because I really like what I do. I know
Speaker 1: that we can work from home after a year, and
Speaker 1: we do have some people who work out of state
Speaker 1: but still belong to their team. I have a big
Speaker 1: exam coming up for the Securities Industry exam, and this
Speaker 1: will get me a five K raise plus a bonus.
Speaker 1: The test is scheduled thirty days before my lease is up.
Speaker 1: Thirty days before my lease is up. Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to know how I should approach a conversation with my
Speaker 1: manager about me moving back to my hometown. I really
Speaker 1: want to stay with the company and either transfer my
Speaker 1: job to the firm we have there or work from home. Home.
Speaker 1: Please help me, ladies. Okay, oh Crystal, listen, best laid
Speaker 1: plans are often like the best prescription I can provide
Speaker 1: on paper. Changes. Everything changes when you bring kids into
Speaker 1: the mix and the support system that you have. And listen,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, you should go back to where your
Speaker 1: support system is if that is what you want to do.
Speaker 1: And I probably would have answered this differently a few
Speaker 1: years ago, even but now that I have felt what
Speaker 1: it feels like to not have, you know, like a
Speaker 1: or I have felt and now I have a support
Speaker 1: system because I had to you know, befriend them and
Speaker 1: trap them into liking me and then like you know,
Speaker 1: showing up and feeding the dog when I'm not there
Speaker 1: and taking care of the kids and stuff. Anyway, So
Speaker 1: I know what that feels like. It is so isolating,
Speaker 1: it is so difficult. And so if you have a
Speaker 1: one of your sisters who's a single mom right with
Speaker 1: the two kiddos and so you you know, you're part
Speaker 1: of her village, it's a huge like literally they are
Speaker 1: going to live in the house once you move out.
Speaker 1: So I completely agree, and I honestly think that what
Speaker 1: you have is a pretty sweet situation in terms of
Speaker 1: being about to cross countries, so you're not in a
Speaker 1: position where you need to find a whole new job.
Speaker 1: And the fact that it sounds like they really like
Speaker 1: you at the company, they are investing in you. They
Speaker 1: take care of their employees. You already see some examples
Speaker 1: of workers who are working remotely or have transferred to
Speaker 1: other like satellite offices or whatever. Like that all bodes
Speaker 1: well for you. And I say, you don't make it
Speaker 1: a big secret. Maybe you want to, you know, go
Speaker 1: ahead and take the exam and pass it and then
Speaker 1: like celebrate that and then lay it on them because
Speaker 1: you still have that thirty days before your lease is up.
Speaker 1: But I would if your relationship with your manager is good,
Speaker 1: would I would just trusty that they will say true
Speaker 1: to you know how the relationship has been so far,
Speaker 1: which is if they you know, are understanding, they're flexible
Speaker 1: with you, then just tell them, like, tell them what's
Speaker 1: going on. You don't have to give details about your relationship,
Speaker 1: but just say, you know, when I moved out here
Speaker 1: a year ago, I had a support system and unfortunately,
Speaker 1: due to circumstances, I have lost my you know, support system,
Speaker 1: and I have so much love and support on the
Speaker 1: other on the East Coast or wherever it is that
Speaker 1: you're from, and start focusing on solutions at that point
Speaker 1: and say I love work. Just tell them what you've
Speaker 1: told us, You love working there, you really enjoy you
Speaker 1: know how supportive them your manager is. You want to
Speaker 1: make this work as there as such? Is there a
Speaker 1: world in which they would be okay with you transferring
Speaker 1: to another firm? And uh, that's the beauty of working
Speaker 1: for a big corporation. You work for a big financial firms.
Speaker 1: They have offices in a lot of major cities, so
Speaker 1: it's you know, I don't think it's out of the
Speaker 1: realm of possibility at all for you to get a
Speaker 1: yes and for them to be okay with you moving
Speaker 1: back to your hometown, especially if like you're willing to
Speaker 1: show up in that office over there or work from home.
Speaker 1: I would say what you should be prepared for is
Speaker 1: that they may be okay with you doing that, but
Speaker 1: you may not be able to stay on the exact
Speaker 1: same team, maybe because of the time difference. I don't know,
Speaker 1: So be flexible. But I think you're in a pretty
Speaker 1: fantastic situation. And the last thing I'll add is that
Speaker 1: you have incredible experience. For being only thirty years, you
Speaker 1: have seven years of experience in the finance industry and babay,
Speaker 1: I think that you will have no problem, yes, finding
Speaker 1: another job if that is what it comes down to.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean tif, she sounds like she's in
Speaker 1: a good situation right now.
Speaker 2: Now, I agree, And there's someone who will be on
Speaker 2: the other side, Like from the manager slash leadership perspective,
Speaker 2: if you're excellent, I will move mountains to keep you
Speaker 2: here and happy. Yes, you know, like I share that
Speaker 2: all the time and brought to cheered that life. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, some excellent members of my team were asking
Speaker 2: for like a raise, but last year was like the
Speaker 2: hardest year we had. We were made, like, you know,
Speaker 2: relatively next to no money relative to what we normally make,
Speaker 2: and so what they were asking for was not crazy,
Speaker 2: but it's like, there's just not money to pay. And
Speaker 2: it forced me to get creative. And I created a
Speaker 2: whole new profit sharing system just to accommodate these employees,
Speaker 2: because that's how great they were. It was like advise them, Yes,
Speaker 2: I said, okay, I don't have any money. Here's the
Speaker 2: money we don't have any one. I was like transparency,
Speaker 2: here's the money. I want you to see the numbers
Speaker 2: as I see them. Two, this is what normally I
Speaker 2: would make as owners draw like, this is how owner's
Speaker 2: draws work. Three, I will share twenty percent of what
Speaker 2: I would take home with you. And so it allowed
Speaker 2: them to say okay, and so as a result of that,
Speaker 2: they just got their first payom Q one and they
Speaker 2: were all happy. Q two is they could even better.
Speaker 2: So they're even happier because then they could do the math.
Speaker 2: Now they're like, ooh, I see the money we made.
Speaker 2: I know how much the company costs us to run monthly.
Speaker 2: This is what's likely to be left over. Tippy's gonna
Speaker 2: take her eighty is gonna go into the pool, and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be me, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I just say it's a bonus, like a
Speaker 1: quarterly bonus.
Speaker 2: That's dope, right, I love that pool party. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: start calling that like it's a pool party, you know.
Speaker 2: So I share that to say that if you it
Speaker 2: sounds like you are an amazing employee and at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, people want to keep good people.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I was just telling it to a friend who's under like,
Speaker 2: you know, like his boss wanted to talk to him
Speaker 2: because they're they're kind of like his team he's leading,
Speaker 2: he's leading a leadership role, a new leadership role, and
Speaker 2: his team is kind of pushing back because he hasn't
Speaker 2: quite built trust with them and whatever. And my friend
Speaker 2: was like, oh, what if they let me go? And
Speaker 2: I said, ultimately, it sounds like your boss said, one,
Speaker 2: they're not letting you go, so trust that he's not.
Speaker 2: And then two, it sounds like they're actually wanting to
Speaker 2: develop you so that way you bring the team like
Speaker 2: on board. And the key really though, is that ultimately
Speaker 2: nobody wants to say yay, I can't wait to look
Speaker 2: for a new candidate. It's like ordering Uber eats. You know,
Speaker 2: you ever order your Uber eats that's missing, like you're
Speaker 2: SMOOTHI or whatever, and you call them, You're like, you
Speaker 2: didn't put my smoothie and they're like, we'll send your
Speaker 2: money back, and you're like, if I wanted my money,
Speaker 2: I would have kept my money. I want my smoothie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so you know, so ultimately people want their people.
Speaker 2: They don't, you know, like if they wanted, like, you know,
Speaker 2: their money, they would keep their money. No, they want
Speaker 2: you girl, you the smoothie.
Speaker 1: I say all that to say, I'm trying to find
Speaker 1: I'm like following them on this analogy train, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't hungry, definite.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I didn't eat breakfast or lots,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just say that where is the reservoir
Speaker 1: of energy that you are now pulling from?
Speaker 2: I have no idea, honestly, but I say all that
Speaker 2: to say, then you sound like an amazing employee. People
Speaker 2: move mountains for amazing employees, and they will find a way,
Speaker 2: And to Mandy's point, if they don't find a way,
Speaker 2: you just take your amazing employee self someplace elf. But
Speaker 2: having a support system is everything, because you cannot be
Speaker 2: an amazing employee without a support system. And good leadership
Speaker 2: knows that. And so yeah, good luck to you. We
Speaker 2: can't wait to hear about them. Say yes, girl, whatever
Speaker 2: you need or you're finding an even better job someplace else.
Speaker 1: You're a brave, badass lady too. You have been through
Speaker 1: the loss of the father of your child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so sorry.
Speaker 1: You have taken a chance on a new relationship, moved
Speaker 1: your kids across the country, had a baby, you know,
Speaker 1: in the last year, Like you have already accomplished so
Speaker 1: much and overcome so much. I feel like whatever, Like
Speaker 1: there's you're gonna overcome, you know, and you're gonna get through.
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to hear what your boss says
Speaker 1: when you give them the news, Like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd love a follow up, let us know how it goes.
Speaker 1: But I think that Crystal, you are in really good
Speaker 1: shape and you should be damn proud of yourself too, Mama,
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna take a break and come back.
Speaker 2: Our second question we'll be back in black. Got whatever,
Speaker 2: and we're back in brown. Our next question is from Kathy,
Speaker 2: hopefully that we can use your name, Kathy, because you
Speaker 2: said you shared it with us. If Cathy says high,
Speaker 2: lovely ladies, I have a work dilemma. I currently have
Speaker 2: a job at one of the top universities in the country,
Speaker 2: and my pay reflects that nown but I have to
Speaker 2: commute up to three hours to get to work Jesus
Speaker 2: five hours in total. What is what? Or work from home?
Speaker 1: Child?
Speaker 2: I work from I work from home two days a week.
Speaker 2: Some days I work fourteen hours on campus and then
Speaker 2: have to drive home two hours. So my health and
Speaker 2: personal life are taking a told. Oh, I've asked my
Speaker 2: current job for a moving bonus and or support and staffing.
Speaker 2: They decline. I might have a full time job blind
Speaker 2: up ten minutes from where I live, but I would
Speaker 2: it would be a twenty five percent pay cut and
Speaker 2: a lower title. What do you think should I take
Speaker 2: the pay cut and a titled emotion or wait and
Speaker 2: continue to apply for other positions that are more reflective
Speaker 2: of my current work experience? Ooh job, Well, I'll just
Speaker 2: say this and I'll let Mandy lean in with her expertise,
Speaker 2: I'll say this that I mean, no job is worth
Speaker 2: the health decline. I know everyone does not have the
Speaker 2: financial ability to make choices for what's better for their health.
Speaker 2: So I can acknowledge that some people are just like, oh, girl,
Speaker 2: is this or I starve? If you have the option
Speaker 2: beyond it's this or a starve, even if it means
Speaker 2: this and I have less, like if you're I mean,
Speaker 2: there are some things that we could do to our
Speaker 2: bodies that are not as easily repaarable than others. You
Speaker 2: don't want to put yourself in that position because stress
Speaker 2: is corrosive. You know. Stress leads to heart attacks, stress
Speaker 2: leads to strokes, stress leads to high blood pressure. Stress
Speaker 2: is just it is a corrosive killer, honestly, and so
Speaker 2: we do not want that for you. So whatever you
Speaker 2: have to do to still pay your bills, to make
Speaker 2: sure you eat as well as reduce this level of stress,
Speaker 2: you know, I just employ you to like make that
Speaker 2: that that is paramount in this decision. But I'll let
Speaker 2: Mabie talk to you about the career component. But I
Speaker 2: just want to put that out there that it is
Speaker 2: not worth your your health and happiness like no way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these two questions, you know, going from Crystal, who
Speaker 1: I feel like is in such a great position because
Speaker 1: her job values her and has already shown her in
Speaker 1: so many ways that they can accommodate you know what
Speaker 1: she needs. It sucks, Kathy, because you're working at a
Speaker 1: place that has you've already tried to advocate for yourself
Speaker 1: and then you've been met with a big fat no.
Speaker 1: And it being one of the top universities in the country.
Speaker 1: It's almost like sometimes when you have an institution that
Speaker 1: has that like has that allure, knows they're hot, is
Speaker 1: like knows that people would love to have your job.
Speaker 1: Instead of having banging benefits and being really great to
Speaker 1: their people, sometimes they can kind of be dicks and
Speaker 1: just be like, well, you work at this elite institution.
Speaker 1: You get to benefit from our brand, so put up
Speaker 1: with like the shitty commune, you know, and the fact
Speaker 1: that they won't even give you a moving bonus. Here's
Speaker 1: what I want to say at the bathroom of your
Speaker 1: question made me think of is that in my Mandy
Speaker 1: money Maker's coaching community, I have this maker. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Isabella just phenomenal. She also works for university, and she
Speaker 1: was just going through this like wild months long interview
Speaker 1: process with I think two or three other universities. And
Speaker 1: not only is she negotiating for her own pay with
Speaker 1: these universities, she wants a position for her husband as well,
Speaker 1: who's also a professor. And there's actually universities that will
Speaker 1: hire a professor and then also place their spouse in
Speaker 1: a job, especially if they want to recruit someone who
Speaker 1: lives in a different city. And she got two universities
Speaker 1: to not just give her a job, but then her husband,
Speaker 1: her spouse a job. Gives you a kidding she I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, hey, the jackpot and she and then they
Speaker 1: negotiated her salary and his and I think that her
Speaker 1: position it's on the ten they're both ten year track positions.
Speaker 1: Maybe hers is already ten yeared. I don't know the details,
Speaker 1: but I remember being blown away, and I just I
Speaker 1: share that anecdote because I want you to know that
Speaker 1: this is not how it has to be at every
Speaker 1: university job. And I find that people who work in education,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, K through twelve or higher education
Speaker 1: at universities and colleges, because you are doing it for
Speaker 1: the kids and you are educating. Sometimes they think that
Speaker 1: they can take advantage of people who want to do
Speaker 1: the right thing and they'll do anything for you know,
Speaker 1: the good of the kids and all of that. So
Speaker 1: they pay you shit or they give you shitty better
Speaker 1: and if it's and that similar to how the nonprofit
Speaker 1: sector gets off gets away with having sometimes crappy pay
Speaker 1: is because people are like, oh, I can't negotiate it.
Speaker 1: That's nonprofit. We're here for the good of whatever cause
Speaker 1: we're supporting. But no, these universities, I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's a for profit quote unquote or a nonprofit quote unquote.
Speaker 1: They still make bank They have large endowments. You know,
Speaker 1: they have so much support from alumni and you know
Speaker 1: even from you know, the government funding these institutions as well.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to say that as an example
Speaker 1: of this does not have to be the way it is,
Speaker 1: and you may find a university that does give you
Speaker 1: what you need, that will pay you your relocation, that
Speaker 1: will give you, you know, the flexibility that you need
Speaker 1: so that you don't have such a shitty commute. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: as far as you know, should you take this pay cut,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with what Tiffany said when it comes
Speaker 1: to your mental health. I mean, what could you do
Speaker 1: with that much more time? And excuse me? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: could you do with that much more time, that much
Speaker 1: more energy? And I bet you could put that time
Speaker 1: and energy into crafting the rest of your career, you know,
Speaker 1: publishing research that could raise your profile and your feel
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of you know, what you
Speaker 1: exactly teach, or what your area of focuses, but you
Speaker 1: could do research, write a book, speak, be out there
Speaker 1: in your space, get noticed by another university you know
Speaker 1: that could recruit you. And yeah, I think that you
Speaker 1: need to make the right choice for yourself.
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 1: Like that there's the potential for them to lose a
Speaker 1: great talent like you, and maybe that will help them see, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't treat people like shit. Yes, And I
Speaker 1: also wouldn't be totally surprised if when you do, if
Speaker 1: you decide to resign and take this other job, you
Speaker 1: go to them and they're like, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: what do you need to stay? Because we don't we
Speaker 1: don't want to lose you. So yeah, think of it
Speaker 1: that way. I mean, you know, their their weakness. Like
Speaker 1: you're on a school calendar right now, a lot of recruiting,
Speaker 1: like for example, Isabelle the Baby money Maker, She's doing
Speaker 1: all these interviews throughout the school year and therefore positions
Speaker 1: that start in the fall. And like Tiffany said before,
Speaker 1: as a manager, you lose someone now, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: already have missed out and all the great candidates because
Speaker 1: they already have their positions locked in for the fall.
Speaker 1: So they're going to be putting themselves at a disadvantage
Speaker 1: not having someone lined up for the fall to teach
Speaker 1: whatever you're teaching. So I should make them wait, let
Speaker 1: them know in the summertime. Okay, I'm gonna quit because
Speaker 1: you guys are not accommodating me, and like show them
Speaker 1: what happens if you don't show up, and like show
Speaker 1: your employees that they're valued in that you understand that
Speaker 1: it sucks to have a five hour commute round trip
Speaker 1: that is insane. Yeah, that's what I would say.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully Crystal and Kathy that this episode of BAQ
Speaker 2: it was so helpful. If you have questions friend that
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Speaker 1: Okay until next week ba fam. We will see you Monday,
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday.
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